Valuetainment - January 24, 2026


＂Are You A Tough Guy？＂ - Cuomo CHALLENGES CNN's Jennings in Undocumented vs Illegal Fight


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12 minutes

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2,250

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237

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6

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13

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Rob and Chris are joined by Rob and Chris to discuss CNN's Scott Jennings and Chris Cuomo's response to a question about whether or not Donald Trump was involved in a global sex trafficking ring. They also discuss the Parkland shooting survivor, David Hogg.

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00:00:00.080 Rob, just on CNN, two days ago, okay, Scott Jennings, they got this guy who's on there
00:00:08.000 making claims about President Trump and, you know, human trafficking and what is it,
00:00:15.860 sex trafficking, protecting the traffickers. 0.91
00:00:17.940 Sex trafficking ring. 0.50
00:00:18.440 And then Scott Jennings looks at the host and says, are you really going to let this happen?
00:00:24.020 He says, I'm the host, let me do my job.
00:00:25.960 Rob, do you have that clip?
00:00:26.880 There's two clips I want to show with this.
00:00:29.060 One is this, then it's the Scott Jennings illegal immigrants, then it's the Chris Cuomo.
00:00:33.780 But let's start off with this one first.
00:00:35.360 Watch what happens here and how Scott Jennings tries very hard to prevent a lawsuit from happening.
00:00:41.620 Go ahead, Rob.
00:00:42.320 He's basically playing risk because people hurt his feelings or people ostensibly hurt his feelings.
00:00:48.100 So I am appreciative that the president is being transparent about this.
00:00:51.540 I would love it if he was more transparent about the human sex trafficking network that he was a part of.
00:00:56.980 But you can't win them all.
00:00:58.460 Cameron's grateful that the president is being transparent about the Nobel Peace Prize and his desires for Greenland.
00:01:02.720 Scott, what do you think about that?
00:01:03.780 You're going to let that sit?
00:01:04.620 Are we going to claim here on CNN that the president is part of a global sex trafficking ring or?
00:01:09.060 Well, I mean, we're going to talk about the Epstein file.
00:01:11.960 Scott, I will do the fact-checking.
00:01:13.480 I'm not going to go along here.
00:01:15.120 Repeat what you said about the global sex trafficking ring.
00:01:16.980 Do you think that Donald Trump was provably very involved with it?
00:01:20.940 Okay.
00:01:21.440 We'll get to that later.
00:01:22.440 I mean, Donald Trump has never been charged with any crimes in relation to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:01:27.180 Yeah, but let's be adults here.
00:01:28.740 We'll talk about it.
00:01:29.600 Let's be serious.
00:01:30.560 Satisfied?
00:01:30.960 Pause it so we can read it.
00:01:34.600 Pause it.
00:01:34.940 On this one.
00:01:35.420 I would like to retract my comments from CNN last night and truly apologize.
00:01:39.380 Donald Trump was obviously not involved with a giant international child sex trafficking ring
00:01:43.180 where women and children were systematically raped by elites.
00:01:46.440 I said that by accident and didn't mean it. 0.53
00:01:48.360 You said it twice.
00:01:49.240 Doubled down.
00:01:49.860 You said it twice.
00:01:50.580 And by the way, Scott Jennings is, to me, the CEO of CNN because he keeps protecting these guys.
00:01:59.120 And he's sitting there saying, what the hell are you talking about, Rob?
00:02:01.280 If you can go to the illegal immigrant comment that he defends first because the lady's like, 1.00
00:02:05.740 stop saying illegal immigrants.
00:02:07.060 Okay.
00:02:07.380 Not this one.
00:02:07.960 Go to Scott Jennings' clip first.
00:02:10.140 So then there's another clip with Scott Jennings is talking to this one lady.
00:02:14.980 And this lady, I believe, keeps saying, stop using the phrase illegal immigrants. 0.99
00:02:19.680 Is it a lady or is it a guy? 0.99
00:02:22.040 It's about illegal immigrants. 0.92
00:02:24.660 It says illegal immigrants. 0.75
00:02:26.580 Is that the one?
00:02:27.160 It's the same guy.
00:02:27.980 It's the same guy.
00:02:28.720 Well, I said lady.
00:02:30.080 He's pretty.
00:02:30.560 Go ahead.
00:02:30.920 You don't get to say the word illegals anymore.
00:02:34.440 And you have the diverse, the percentage.
00:02:36.360 Who are you to tell me what I can and can't?
00:02:38.300 I've never met you, brother.
00:02:39.520 I can say whatever I want. 0.96
00:02:40.660 They're illegal aliens. 0.88
00:02:41.600 And that's what the law calls them.
00:02:43.420 Illegal aliens. 1.00
00:02:44.460 That's what I'm going to call them.
00:02:45.960 As for our conversation, we have the diverse, the percentage.
00:02:48.820 Go to the beginning because I don't hear what he said at the beginning.
00:02:51.120 What did the other guy say at the beginning?
00:02:53.160 Press it.
00:02:54.020 You don't get to say the word illegals anymore.
00:02:56.100 And you have the diverse, the percentage.
00:02:58.320 Who are you to tell me what I can and can't?
00:02:59.940 Chris, I've never met you, brother.
00:03:01.180 I can say whatever I want. 0.98
00:03:02.340 They're illegal aliens. 0.88
00:03:03.360 And that's what the law calls them.
00:03:04.220 You don't get to say illegal aliens anymore.
00:03:07.100 Illegal aliens anymore. 1.00
00:03:08.880 So now here's Chris Cuomo's response.
00:03:10.440 You don't get to.
00:03:12.040 As if we've decided what you can say.
00:03:14.500 By the way, I actually really want to know who this kid is.
00:03:16.480 Who are you?
00:03:17.040 Go ahead.
00:03:17.300 Here's Chris.
00:03:18.240 You know who he is?
00:03:19.220 No.
00:03:19.400 He was a survivor of the Parkland shooting.
00:03:23.060 He's like a David Hogg.
00:03:24.240 He makes David Hogg look masculine.
00:03:26.720 Put it that way.
00:03:27.360 Okay, I got it.
00:03:28.180 Go ahead.
00:03:28.840 Here's Chris.
00:03:30.700 You see this clip of Scott Jennings saying, how are you going to enforce it?
00:03:34.500 How are you going to enforce me not saying the word illegals anymore?
00:03:37.740 How are you going to do that?
00:03:38.600 Say illegals anymore because ICE is directly targeting legal citizens of this country.
00:03:42.720 And I understand.
00:03:43.220 How are you going to enforce your edict on me just out of curiosity?
00:03:45.800 Listen, I understand.
00:03:46.600 But just listen to his point about illegals. 0.95
00:03:48.460 What are you, a bully now? 0.94
00:03:49.740 What are you, a tough guy? 0.97
00:03:51.220 Because you're talking to this kid who happens to be right, calling people illegals. 1.00
00:03:55.800 They're called illegal aliens in the law.
00:03:57.600 And you know what?
00:03:59.100 A long time ago, Republicans and Democrats switched to undocumented.
00:04:04.440 Why?
00:04:04.940 Because it seemed inhuman.
00:04:07.020 That's why.
00:04:08.080 They changed the vernacular.
00:04:09.740 And you know it.
00:04:11.040 But that's not the point.
00:04:11.780 The point is, how are you going to do it?
00:04:14.480 What are you going to do?
00:04:15.820 What are you?
00:04:16.280 You're a tough guy now, huh?
00:04:17.760 I thought you were just supposed to be the simpering, but, you know, open to conversation.
00:04:23.440 You're a positive right there.
00:04:24.380 What do you think about this?
00:04:25.800 Well, first of all, I don't know what Chris was doing before he made this video.
00:04:29.560 His hair is insane.
00:04:31.020 He's sweating.
00:04:32.220 I don't know where all that testosterone is out.
00:04:35.280 But by the way, Chris, with all due respect, he's one of the guys that said, when it comes to illegals, 0.95
00:04:40.500 he said, illegals, immigrants murdering Americans was an artificial problem.
00:04:46.740 So I don't know where the anger comes from. 0.92
00:04:48.320 I'm pretty sure it has something to do with CNN and how Scott Jennings is literally, you call him the CEO, he is the star of CNN.
00:04:55.100 He's the only person that makes it watchable.
00:04:57.820 I have my own opinion.
00:04:58.700 I wish he wasn't on there because I don't want to give them any viewership or anybody for them to keep pushing their propaganda.
00:05:04.680 That's my opinion.
00:05:05.920 But I think this has layers of just bitterness towards CNN because he's the star of CNN.
00:05:14.300 The only reason you could even watch anything of Abby, he made CNN great again.
00:05:20.620 For sure.
00:05:20.840 I can't believe I'm saying that right now.
00:05:22.500 I love Chris Cuomo like a big brother, but brother, you're dead wrong on this because this is all about feelings.
00:05:32.160 And I'll tell you when you lost your right to for anyone to care about feelings of this vernacular,
00:05:37.760 when you let tens of millions of people in the country under Biden, facts don't care about your feelings.
00:05:44.520 Tom Homan said at least 10 million.
00:05:46.320 And Trump says it could be more.
00:05:48.360 Once that happened.
00:05:49.560 Sorry, guys.
00:05:50.720 Feelings are out the window.
00:05:51.900 So illegal aliens, undocumented, migrants, whatever you want to call them, they're in the country illegally. 0.98
00:06:01.020 That's it.
00:06:01.620 Efron, where do you stand with this?
00:06:03.140 Same.
00:06:04.000 It's just the words.
00:06:05.920 The facts are that you are here illegally, whether illegal aliens or undocumented, it means the same. 0.85
00:06:12.480 So why get worked up over a word?
00:06:14.980 What is it really, though?
00:06:15.960 Is it really like, so illegal alien, you're illegally here alien. 0.62
00:06:20.900 That's the undocumented. 1.00
00:06:23.360 What's the?
00:06:24.080 It's making, it's softening the language.
00:06:26.620 It's softening the language like how America has done throughout the past.
00:06:30.920 It's like they take all these words that are exactly the definition.
00:06:34.960 You broke the law.
00:06:36.420 You illegally came here, Pat.
00:06:37.480 It's about feelings.
00:06:38.400 You made a great point.
00:06:39.320 It's undocumented.
00:06:40.620 No, no, no.
00:06:42.720 You're here illegally. 0.98
00:06:44.000 It's like when they changed the word shell shock.
00:06:47.400 They changed all these words to soften language to make everybody calm.
00:06:51.500 Yeah, it's this whole thing that's happened over the last 15 years.
00:06:55.000 It's called politically correct speech in America.
00:06:56.920 And you can dive into it.
00:06:58.880 And this is, and it comes from the left.
00:07:01.260 Where it comes from the left is things like this.
00:07:03.900 They actually pushed, and you can go look at this, three years ago in the middle of COVID,
00:07:08.900 they didn't want news media folks to use the word pedophile, Pat.
00:07:13.320 You know what they were proposing?
00:07:15.000 Minor attracted person.
00:07:16.740 Remember this?
00:07:17.560 They wanted to call them minor attracted persons.
00:07:19.700 Because that way, it doesn't sound so bad.
00:07:22.660 And we have to have feelings.
00:07:24.100 These are the same people that want to decriminalize what the criminals do,
00:07:27.780 so they also want to use politically correct words to make the criminals,
00:07:32.700 who you want to decriminalize, not sound so bad.
00:07:35.660 And I don't speak to Chris's opinion on bullying or not.
00:07:41.140 I'll leave him to talk to Scott Jennings about that.
00:07:43.360 But what Chris is talking about, and Chris, I respect you,
00:07:47.260 but you're kind of going back to this politically correct speech.
00:07:50.580 They are illegal aliens. 0.95
00:07:52.480 And yes, everyone didn't agree to change the vernacular.
00:07:56.100 Politically correct folks on the Republican and Democrat side,
00:07:59.620 and that's why we had the Tea Party, because not all Republicans agree.
00:08:02.600 That's why I have MAGA, because not all Republicans agree.
00:08:05.360 You know, we're saying, okay, maybe we'll go undocumented immigrant.
00:08:09.920 But wait a minute.
00:08:10.820 Undocumented means technically, if I'm pulled over by the police,
00:08:14.740 and I'm speeding, I'm doing 75 on I-95.
00:08:20.160 Okay, they pull me over, I don't have my driver's license.
00:08:23.220 Technically, Pat, I'm an undocumented speeder.
00:08:25.980 This guy was speeding, but he has no documentation.
00:08:29.460 And what do you do?
00:08:30.600 So to say undocumented person,
00:08:32.800 they almost wanted to create a sense that they're potentially legal.
00:08:37.460 It's all about the politically correct speech.
00:08:39.740 And guess what?
00:08:41.200 Many people, including me, have had enough of it.
00:08:43.160 Let's just call it what it is.
00:08:44.380 Pat, I looked it up.
00:08:46.180 Minor attracted person.
00:08:47.380 Yeah, Tom, that was a great one.
00:08:48.940 And I can't show any videos, Robbie, because it's George Carlin.
00:08:51.560 But he said, we've gotten into this soft language.
00:08:54.500 God rest his soul, my favorite comedian.
00:08:55.660 He goes, we went from shell shock, which is the word, shell shock,
00:08:59.020 because of the war, to post-traumatic stress disorder.
00:09:01.580 We went from killing civilians, collateral damage, lying, misinformation,
00:09:08.520 disinformation. 0.56
00:09:09.600 You're not fat.
00:09:10.540 Pat, it's body positive.
00:09:12.260 Everything, dead soldiers became fallen heroes.
00:09:15.700 It's softening the language, Pat, but we have to call it what it is
00:09:19.040 and keep on that.
00:09:20.760 You're an illegal, period. 0.98
00:09:22.840 End of story.
00:09:24.100 Sir, those are all great examples, but I'll give you the primary example.
00:09:28.920 They made a documentary called, What is a Woman?
00:09:31.800 And they couldn't define it.
00:09:34.740 We played a clip last week of Josh Hawley asking whatever fraud doctor,
00:09:40.300 can men get pregnant? 1.00
00:09:42.120 Well, you have to understand, can men get pregnant? 0.81
00:09:45.400 Pat, how many times they repeat that question?
00:09:47.220 11.
00:09:48.060 11 times.
00:09:48.960 Josh Hawley was going to have an anger or something.
00:09:50.080 So all these birthing persons or these menstruating persons, 1.00
00:09:53.800 they're women. 1.00
00:09:55.080 And just like these soft words, what did Biden call the illegal immigrants?
00:10:00.700 Newcomers.
00:10:01.460 Come on, guys.
00:10:02.840 We're newcomers as if they're Christopher Columbus finding the new world.
00:10:07.320 To me, it's all soft, feminine language to make people feel warm and fuzzy 0.97
00:10:11.780 and not addressing the real problem.
00:10:13.720 So Gavin Newsom was an adulterer.
00:10:15.360 In that instance, he was a newcomer.
00:10:17.040 He was a newcomer.
00:10:17.520 Oh, whoa.
00:10:18.600 Okay, Tom.
00:10:23.120 Yes.
00:10:24.520 So funny, Tom, but inappropriate, but we'll cross the line afterwards.
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