Valuetainment - April 26, 2025


＂Assassinated By The Government＂ - JFK & Trump Face The SAME Deep State ENEMY


Episode Stats

Length

10 minutes

Words per Minute

214.50063

Word Count

2,210

Sentence Count

127

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

In this episode, I sit down with a good friend of mine to talk about the anti-establishment movement and how it applies to the current political establishment. We talk about our thoughts on Trump, the 2016 election, and what it means to be an "outsider" in politics.


Transcript

00:00:00.420 Establishment, ask the anti-establishment.
00:00:01.880 We're talking about Trump.
00:00:03.720 And your industry's talking to,
00:00:05.820 you would be a what?
00:00:06.720 Are you a Gen Z?
00:00:07.920 I think I'm on like the very late Gen Z.
00:00:11.060 Right.
00:00:11.580 Yeah, I'm like the last,
00:00:12.620 I'm like the oldest Gen Z person.
00:00:14.380 Wow, you're old.
00:00:15.380 You know how there's like the Aries Taurus cusp,
00:00:17.440 which is today?
00:00:18.240 Yeah.
00:00:18.460 I'm like that for Gen Z.
00:00:19.420 I'm not a millennial,
00:00:20.140 but I'm definitely not Gen Alpha.
00:00:21.720 Like when I was a kid,
00:00:22.880 I was like playing with sticks
00:00:23.920 and kicking rocks around and stuff.
00:00:25.500 So you experienced that?
00:00:26.680 Yeah, I had no,
00:00:27.520 the internet came around when I was like seven or eight,
00:00:29.060 at least home computers.
00:00:30.000 So I was out there,
00:00:31.040 you know what I mean?
00:00:31.960 Just doing my thing.
00:00:32.660 The good old days.
00:00:33.240 The good old days.
00:00:33.800 I wasn't watching people on live stream
00:00:35.540 typing in like W chat or L chat.
00:00:37.560 Like I was really experiencing.
00:00:38.680 How old is Mr. Beast?
00:00:39.620 Is he older than you?
00:00:40.420 Yeah, Mr. Beast is,
00:00:41.400 I would estimate 31.
00:00:42.780 How old is Logan?
00:00:43.420 Logan Paul's what, like 28?
00:00:45.480 Oh shit, is he really 26?
00:00:47.140 He's not 26.
00:00:48.060 Oh, Mr. Beast was born in 1998.
00:00:50.200 Wow.
00:00:50.300 I gotta get my hustle on.
00:00:51.900 Holy shit, he's 26?
00:00:54.420 Dude, I thought he was 30.
00:00:55.320 How old is Logan Paul?
00:00:56.400 Can you pull that up?
00:00:57.500 Rob, how old is he?
00:00:58.860 He's gotta be like 28.
00:01:00.000 28-ish.
00:01:00.920 Oh, I've got Logan Paul beat by three years.
00:01:02.780 All right, we're good.
00:01:03.460 And Jake is what, 29?
00:01:05.900 Jake, like a year younger?
00:01:08.280 28.
00:01:08.960 28.
00:01:09.400 So this is like the 26, 27, 28, 30.
00:01:14.020 I think the way you're going,
00:01:15.120 if you continue the way you're going,
00:01:17.140 you'll be a 20 million plus sub channel.
00:01:18.840 I hope so.
00:01:19.500 No, I think you will be.
00:01:20.740 I think your only reason you won't
00:01:22.220 is because you're gonna be your own enemy
00:01:23.540 and get in your own way.
00:01:24.720 If you kind of buckle down
00:01:25.660 and stay disciplined,
00:01:26.260 I think you're gonna get there.
00:01:27.160 And I think-
00:01:27.540 Definitely.
00:01:28.040 You'll be a very, very influential voice
00:01:30.060 in citizen journalism in America.
00:01:31.880 Thanks.
00:01:32.380 And help a lot of us
00:01:33.660 that maybe we don't have the time to go there.
00:01:35.260 We'll be like, okay, where's he at now?
00:01:36.380 Oh shit, I didn't know that.
00:01:37.460 That's what it looks like.
00:01:38.320 But going back to it,
00:01:39.160 you're not a Trump guy.
00:01:40.980 But you said,
00:01:42.440 when I asked you about Romney,
00:01:43.740 somehow we went to Scientology.
00:01:45.240 Yeah.
00:01:45.460 Right?
00:01:45.780 Which was a very weird left turn we took.
00:01:47.640 Well, I think it was the Mormon Scientology
00:01:49.280 overlapped.
00:01:49.760 Establishment, Mormon.
00:01:50.360 However that happened.
00:01:51.320 Yeah.
00:01:51.840 But would you put him more,
00:01:53.720 like, do you think Romney
00:01:54.780 is more with President Bush
00:01:56.040 or do you think Romney
00:01:56.820 is more friends with Trump?
00:01:58.000 I mean, as far as Trump,
00:01:59.120 he's not part of the RNC establishment,
00:02:01.100 but there's a new establishment
00:02:02.260 forming around Trump.
00:02:04.040 You know what I mean?
00:02:04.680 Like, I think that he ran on the platform
00:02:06.260 of being against the DNC establishment
00:02:07.920 who obviously are entrenched
00:02:08.840 in like the mainstream press,
00:02:09.960 late night television.
00:02:11.460 Most cable news networks,
00:02:12.820 except for Fox,
00:02:13.880 do, are kind of obedient
00:02:15.100 to the Democratic Party.
00:02:16.380 You saw that when they disenfranchised
00:02:17.660 Bernie Sanders during the primaries
00:02:18.880 in 2016.
00:02:19.620 Yeah, for sure.
00:02:20.140 So I think that he was for a long time,
00:02:22.220 but I think there's a new establishment
00:02:23.440 forming.
00:02:24.480 But hang on, forming.
00:02:26.660 But prior to being established,
00:02:28.500 they were anti-establishment
00:02:29.920 before they got established.
00:02:31.080 Well, there's multiple establishments
00:02:32.320 is kind of the thing.
00:02:32.980 I totally get it.
00:02:33.780 But establishment is what?
00:02:35.660 Those who are the majority,
00:02:37.840 they have the control,
00:02:38.580 they're established,
00:02:39.160 and this is our way.
00:02:40.620 You have to come ask our permission
00:02:42.580 to run, right?
00:02:43.420 Kind of like, hey,
00:02:44.760 I'm Obama,
00:02:45.480 I'm Clinton,
00:02:46.180 I'm this,
00:02:46.600 you're going to come through us
00:02:47.700 before you run, right?
00:02:48.600 Yeah, Trump is totally
00:02:49.500 an outsider,
00:02:50.400 anti-establishment 2016.
00:02:51.480 So check this out.
00:02:52.120 This is kind of where I'm going with this
00:02:53.100 because I'm trying to see,
00:02:53.880 you know,
00:02:54.900 positioning.
00:02:56.480 So Obama,
00:02:57.400 would you put Obama
00:02:58.080 as establishment
00:02:58.920 or anti-establishment?
00:02:59.700 Yeah, establishment.
00:03:00.260 For sure.
00:03:00.820 Would you put Bush
00:03:02.160 as establishment or anti-establishment?
00:03:03.160 Yeah.
00:03:03.560 How about Clinton?
00:03:05.460 Yeah.
00:03:05.820 How about senior?
00:03:06.940 Yeah.
00:03:07.400 How about Reagan?
00:03:08.560 Yeah.
00:03:09.080 How about Carter?
00:03:10.680 Every president ever before Trump
00:03:12.500 was a part of a major
00:03:13.540 political establishment.
00:03:14.480 How about Kennedy?
00:03:15.920 Kennedy,
00:03:16.540 I believe,
00:03:17.220 was assassinated by the government
00:03:18.660 because he went against the agenda.
00:03:20.120 What that agenda is,
00:03:20.960 I'm not sure.
00:03:21.440 I'm going to have to do some research.
00:03:22.440 So I would say
00:03:23.440 the last two
00:03:25.780 anti-establishment presidents
00:03:27.440 we've had
00:03:28.060 are Kennedy and Trump.
00:03:29.540 I think that the Democratic Party
00:03:31.320 wanted Trump to run in 2016
00:03:34.960 because I think they believed
00:03:36.440 that he had no chance.
00:03:37.780 And I think that the Democrats
00:03:39.360 actually propped him up.
00:03:40.980 It's called the Pied Piper strategy.
00:03:42.580 I think they did that in 2016,
00:03:44.460 Hillary in particular,
00:03:45.240 in the DNC camp
00:03:46.000 because they thought
00:03:46.840 this guy's ridiculous.
00:03:48.220 After he went down the elevator,
00:03:49.300 they were like,
00:03:49.840 no way is the birth certificate guy
00:03:51.500 going to possibly win.
00:03:52.940 So I think that they purposely
00:03:54.180 propped up
00:03:55.240 an anti-establishment candidate
00:03:56.520 in 2016,
00:03:57.760 anti-political establishment,
00:03:58.740 not, you know,
00:03:59.600 financial or corporate establishment
00:04:00.620 with the idea
00:04:02.400 that he'd be so easy to beat.
00:04:03.980 But he was so good at speaking
00:04:05.080 and, you know,
00:04:06.060 having a genuine connection
00:04:07.660 with the people
00:04:08.200 in the way that he talked
00:04:09.000 casually, off script,
00:04:10.860 pulling no punches,
00:04:12.340 that people resonated
00:04:13.840 with Trump a lot.
00:04:15.400 Why do you think
00:04:16.300 even from the younger males,
00:04:20.480 Gen Zs,
00:04:21.720 why do you think
00:04:22.320 there's such a big growth
00:04:24.640 and attraction to Trump today
00:04:26.500 like never before?
00:04:28.160 Because it's more
00:04:28.920 your generation,
00:04:30.300 your age, guys.
00:04:32.200 18 to 27-ish,
00:04:33.740 28-ish.
00:04:34.960 They're seeing themselves like,
00:04:36.240 man, I kind of want a guy
00:04:37.220 like Trump
00:04:37.680 instead of what's going on.
00:04:38.460 Why do you think
00:04:38.860 that number is increasing
00:04:39.840 the most, that demo?
00:04:40.740 I think it has a lot to do
00:04:41.640 with the sort of like...
00:04:42.980 Can you pull that up, Rob?
00:04:43.800 Because we've talked
00:04:44.420 about this before
00:04:44.960 a few months ago.
00:04:45.160 A lot of the culture war
00:04:46.140 identity stuff
00:04:46.860 being pushed a lot
00:04:48.040 by the Democratic establishment
00:04:49.300 is backfiring
00:04:50.500 in a way that makes
00:04:51.300 a lot of young white dudes
00:04:52.240 feel like,
00:04:52.840 why are people hating on me
00:04:53.840 all the time?
00:04:54.900 Feeling kind of disenfranchised.
00:04:56.360 They're being told
00:04:56.960 their voice isn't important
00:04:57.820 and it's not about
00:04:58.580 what your ideas are
00:04:59.680 but it's about
00:05:00.220 what you look like
00:05:01.260 and what your background is
00:05:02.460 and if you're from
00:05:02.940 a high place of privilege
00:05:04.960 then you shouldn't be able
00:05:06.020 to have as much of a role
00:05:07.000 in the conversation
00:05:07.660 as someone else
00:05:08.300 who's been given less in life.
00:05:09.920 And so I think that
00:05:10.460 especially in academia
00:05:11.400 where you're seeing
00:05:12.120 a lot of people
00:05:12.720 kind of feel disillusioned
00:05:14.040 with the discourse there
00:05:14.880 because it's so generally
00:05:15.900 one-sided on college campuses.
00:05:17.600 I think there's a lot
00:05:18.020 of young people
00:05:18.620 who are also seeing
00:05:19.540 Trump go on podcasts
00:05:20.600 like Theo Vaughn,
00:05:21.840 Nelk Boys,
00:05:22.460 this one,
00:05:22.940 a lot of podcasts
00:05:23.620 where you're talking,
00:05:24.300 you're having a regular conversation
00:05:25.280 that you wouldn't be able
00:05:25.800 to have with most
00:05:26.520 establishment candidates
00:05:27.280 and they think,
00:05:28.080 all right,
00:05:28.300 you know what,
00:05:28.840 I might not love
00:05:29.420 everything about this guy
00:05:30.320 but I'll tell you
00:05:31.120 that he's able
00:05:31.700 to have a conversation here
00:05:33.060 or with someone
00:05:33.780 who's just willing to talk
00:05:35.060 and they feel like,
00:05:36.080 you know,
00:05:36.340 if he can,
00:05:37.260 he could be my friend too.
00:05:40.120 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:05:42.420 You said,
00:05:43.000 I'm kind of in a progressive bubble
00:05:44.620 is what you said
00:05:45.340 a few minutes ago, right?
00:05:46.000 To a certain extent, yeah.
00:05:46.680 Okay, so in the progressive bubble
00:05:48.940 that you're in,
00:05:50.360 what is that progressive bubble
00:05:52.480 belief in?
00:05:53.940 Well, in the progressive bubble
00:05:55.160 which would be like
00:05:56.800 more leftist-oriented
00:05:58.140 late Gen Zers,
00:05:59.580 there's not much Kamala Harris
00:06:00.760 or Biden support.
00:06:01.980 You know,
00:06:02.100 I think that's the big thing
00:06:02.960 that conservatives missed
00:06:04.040 is that nobody in my age demographic
00:06:06.200 was excited about
00:06:07.100 the Harris campaign
00:06:08.000 except for a select few.
00:06:10.040 Most people I know
00:06:10.840 didn't even vote
00:06:11.480 for the Democrats
00:06:12.340 who would be considered
00:06:13.200 very anti-conservative
00:06:14.620 because they felt like
00:06:15.760 we didn't have a candidate
00:06:17.180 that would speak for
00:06:18.000 the interest of the more
00:06:19.440 progressive youth
00:06:20.060 and I think that we still don't.
00:06:22.080 You know,
00:06:22.200 that's why I kind of look
00:06:22.780 for 2028
00:06:23.520 as the great equalizer year
00:06:25.160 because after the Harris loss
00:06:26.740 I think the DNC establishment
00:06:28.020 is going to be in obscurity
00:06:29.100 and I think that with Trump
00:06:30.500 taking over the conservative side
00:06:32.340 the traditional Bush RNC
00:06:34.340 is also not as important.
00:06:36.540 So I think we're going to have
00:06:37.160 fresh primaries
00:06:37.920 in four years
00:06:38.800 with, you know,
00:06:39.900 great voices
00:06:40.360 from both sides of the aisle.
00:06:41.520 I think that's going to be
00:06:42.320 one of the most
00:06:43.160 fair and free elections ever.
00:06:45.420 Okay, so what I want to hear
00:06:46.320 is values.
00:06:49.140 Progressive bubble,
00:06:50.100 what are the values
00:06:51.340 you believe in,
00:06:51.800 your top three values?
00:06:53.320 Socially progressive.
00:06:55.140 Probably socially progressive.
00:06:56.820 I believe in like
00:06:57.320 the complete legalization
00:06:58.240 of gay marriage.
00:06:59.620 Okay.
00:07:00.260 Pretty pro-choice.
00:07:02.040 I think that
00:07:02.860 the richest people
00:07:05.880 in the country
00:07:06.300 should be taxed
00:07:06.980 a little bit more
00:07:07.540 and I think that
00:07:08.400 the working class people
00:07:09.280 should be paid
00:07:09.880 a little bit more as well.
00:07:11.560 I think that there's
00:07:12.220 a wide gap
00:07:13.380 that you're seeing
00:07:14.020 especially when you have
00:07:15.060 the richest cities
00:07:16.280 in the country
00:07:16.880 have the most inequality.
00:07:18.860 You have a state
00:07:19.520 or a city like Los Angeles
00:07:20.680 which has the highest
00:07:22.040 corporate tax rate
00:07:22.960 and the highest
00:07:23.780 homelessness rate
00:07:24.460 in the country.
00:07:25.500 So the fact that
00:07:26.160 these two things
00:07:26.660 are existing in tandem
00:07:27.640 shows that the money
00:07:28.920 from taxation
00:07:29.660 is not being spent
00:07:30.540 effectively.
00:07:31.800 People are not able
00:07:32.720 to afford
00:07:33.360 to live a normal life.
00:07:35.180 I think that
00:07:35.640 even 30 or 40 years ago
00:07:37.100 it was normal
00:07:38.100 to get a college degree,
00:07:39.540 go straight into
00:07:40.060 the workforce
00:07:40.660 in the white collar sector
00:07:41.780 and be able to buy
00:07:42.420 a home for yourself
00:07:43.160 and start a family at 30.
00:07:44.640 Most people that I know
00:07:45.500 are so overwhelmed
00:07:46.040 by student debt
00:07:46.680 at this point in their life
00:07:47.480 and that they can't
00:07:48.940 even think about anything
00:07:49.980 except for clearing
00:07:50.700 that debt
00:07:51.160 by any means necessary.
00:07:52.640 People are so overworked
00:07:53.580 they have no time
00:07:54.180 to pursue their
00:07:54.720 creative interests.
00:07:55.900 There's no politician
00:07:56.600 they feel like
00:07:57.080 speaks for the working
00:07:57.860 people of the country
00:07:58.860 and I think that
00:08:00.060 I'm more in line
00:08:00.980 with that way of thinking.
00:08:02.820 But I'm not like
00:08:03.780 I don't sit around
00:08:04.680 hating on Trump
00:08:05.600 or getting upset
00:08:06.580 about that
00:08:07.060 because I think
00:08:07.780 all this stuff
00:08:08.260 is just a symptom
00:08:08.840 of the dysfunction
00:08:09.460 in our country
00:08:10.060 that at some point
00:08:10.840 will work itself out
00:08:11.560 if we can come together.
00:08:12.720 Would you say
00:08:13.420 you're a pretty
00:08:14.240 reasonable guy?
00:08:15.280 I think so, yeah.
00:08:15.840 I think so as well.
00:08:17.300 You give me the vibes too.
00:08:18.520 The conversation
00:08:20.580 of allowing men
00:08:22.260 to compete
00:08:22.880 in women's sports
00:08:23.700 how do you
00:08:24.320 as a young
00:08:25.100 Gen Z progressive
00:08:26.220 view that argument?
00:08:28.840 I mean
00:08:29.180 I just wonder
00:08:29.760 how much of like
00:08:30.520 an issue that really is.
00:08:31.840 It seems like
00:08:32.300 the kind of thing
00:08:32.840 that is really like small
00:08:33.960 that doesn't affect
00:08:34.740 that many people's lives
00:08:35.860 that's being
00:08:36.520 blown out of proportion
00:08:37.900 by different news organizations
00:08:39.680 to distract people
00:08:40.760 from the real
00:08:41.460 you know
00:08:42.260 growing income
00:08:42.920 inequality that's happening.
00:08:44.060 I mean
00:08:44.300 evidently
00:08:45.140 if there's like
00:08:45.680 a buff person
00:08:46.400 who identifies
00:08:46.920 as non-binary
00:08:47.960 who is competing
00:08:48.940 in women's sports
00:08:49.560 but they were born
00:08:50.140 as biologically male
00:08:51.080 obviously that's
00:08:52.280 an unfair situation.
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