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00:00:00.640 Some interesting people are Gemini's. Biggie, Tupac, Angelina Jolie, Johnny Depp, John F. Kennedy, 0.81

00:00:06.720 Marilyn Monroe. Are Gemini's typically known for being very creative? 1.00

00:00:11.440 What they're known for is argumentation. They love to take the opposite side of any conversation.

00:00:18.800 The chart does not tell you that you have to do this. You have free will. You can either

00:00:26.000 develop yourself. What the chart says is this is the best way through a process of

00:00:31.040 growth and development. Are you somebody who believes in God? To me, God is the cosmos. We're

00:00:36.400 living in God. It's important for people to use astrology for what it's worth. It's a guide.

00:00:43.040 It is not a directive. You know, you read in the Bible that we are made in the image of God. It's

00:00:49.360 too human. It's too vindictive. It wants to punish you if you do something wrong. It's nothing about

00:00:55.200 learning except to obey, obey, obey. It's not so much about you succeeding or not succeeding.

00:01:01.920 It's about being the best you that you can be.

00:01:08.720 So my guest today, you know, some of you guys may say, Pat, what is it with you in astrology? Well,

00:01:13.200 you know, for the longest time I ran an insurance company, I've got 18, 19,000 licensed agents. And

00:01:18.080 every time I meet people, I ask them, when's your birthday? When's your birthday? When's your birthday?

00:01:21.920 When's your birthday? And in my mind, I'm trying to figure out if there's a formula for it. So

00:01:26.480 Mario said, Pat, since you always ask everybody about their birthdays, let's go get somebody who

00:01:32.560 can educate us a little bit more and see if there's some credibility behind this astrology. And today,

00:01:38.000 my guest, Ray Couture, has been an astrologist for nearly 50 years. There's an interview with him

00:01:44.320 where I think 14, 15 people come up. And by talking to them for like a minute, he has to guess what

00:01:49.440 sign it is. And that video got 14 million views on Cut's channel. If you've not seen it, we'll put

00:01:54.320 the link below as well. But with that being said, Ray, thank you so much for being a guest on Valuetainment.

00:01:59.520 Thanks for having me. I appreciate being here.

00:02:01.680 Yes. So Ray, what gets you to wake up one day and says, I want to be an astrologist? How does that happen?

00:02:08.320 Well, we share a certain common background. I was in the military for quite a while.

00:02:14.080 And, you know, after I got out of the military, it was kind of like a weird place, you know,

00:02:21.280 you know what it feels like you discharge and you're out there trying to figure out, well,

00:02:26.160 how do people in the real world work? You know, I ended up in a coffee house someplace after I got

00:02:34.800 discharged. And I met this guy and he started telling me more about myself than, well, no,

00:02:39.920 we did it. And he said, astrology. I looked at him. I said, man, you've got to be crazy.

00:02:46.160 I've been, you know, been pushed around by government regulations back and forth to see all this way.

00:02:51.920 And some of, you know, all of that kind of stuff. I don't want to be pushed around by balls of gas

00:02:57.040 and rocks in the sky telling me how to live my life. And he says, well, okay, fine. You don't want to

00:03:01.680 do it. But here's the, here's the kick. This was a coffee house. And this guy was surrounded by

00:03:09.120 beautiful young women. And after a while, I said to myself, you know, I got to get in on that

00:03:14.160 because he's got something going on. I sat at the table and I noticed that everybody was really

00:03:20.960 interested in astrology. So here and there, I would say a few dumb things, you know? And he said,

00:03:26.480 hey man, I'm going to give you a list of books. You go get them and we'll work together. I looked at

00:03:31.280 him and I said, you're crazy enough to be right. So I went in and did that. And within a couple of

00:03:36.480 years, we were teaching classes together. Wow. And I, I view him as the person who gave me the

00:03:43.520 opportunity to take it from the sky, put it in everyday language, people's way of living and

00:03:49.280 understanding in common ways, rather than some big esoteric kind of place. You know, astrology is a

00:03:56.640 real thing. He said, look, people think astrology is all about what's out there. You know, the big,

00:04:03.280 you read it. You're a part of it. You're a product of it. So he taught me how to do that. And then I

00:04:09.920 got involved with people who were pretty much the leaders in, in the astrological community for many,

00:04:18.160 many years and got into radio, did an awful lot of that kind of stuff and did astrological work from

00:04:24.400 there. So that, that's how I got started. Very interesting on, on, and, and how does

00:04:29.680 that become a career? Is it just teaching courses? I mean, how, how do you monetize that career as an

00:04:34.720 astrologist? Well, you know, my focus was not so much on monetized. My focus was on what in the world

00:04:45.520 was going on and how could I figure out what it was because I felt over time after learning more and more

00:04:52.960 about my own astrological configuration that I needed to be providing service and the service

00:05:00.880 I needed to provide was some kind of guidance. That's the way my astrology is set up. So I monetized

00:05:08.000 that in terms of doing astrological counseling, doing life coaching, if you will, you know, every once in a

00:05:14.720 while, probably even happened to you a number of times. I know it did when you were a kid.

00:05:19.120 The businesses, people get confused or something happens and it's not part of their plan. It's not

00:05:26.640 part of anything that they are doing or believe in, and they don't know what's going on. So they find

00:05:31.760 out about me somehow. These days, it's not hard to find out about me, but 40 years ago, I was toiling in

00:05:39.600 in the backwoods, you know, just sticking like you did. I dedicated myself and I always ask myself,

00:05:48.320 what more can, what more can I learn? How can I get better? How can not so much be better than the

00:05:55.680 next guy? Because that's a place where you and I probably have a difference of opinion. You know,

00:06:01.120 you're involved in developing yourself in the context of competition.

00:06:06.080 I'm developing myself and my clients in the context of cooperation.

00:06:12.560 And I am as well, but I'm very competitive, but I still would like to cooperate with you as well.

00:06:17.680 Well, we're going to do it.

00:06:18.880 Okay. Sounds good.

00:06:20.480 Wonderful.

00:06:21.440 Sounds good. So, so look, for me, you know, I'll give you a very funny story. So one day I bring my,

00:06:29.040 one of my analysts, my senior analyst in, and I bring my director of finance. I said,

00:06:33.120 I want you guys to run a report for me. They said, what report?

00:06:36.160 And I've asked for a lot of weird reports over the years, but this one was the ultimate weird

00:06:40.160 report to them. I said, I want you to take my top earners who are making over, put the number,

00:06:47.680 quarter million. Then I said, try it at a half a million, try it at a hundred thousand,

00:06:50.720 try it at 50,000. I want to report to see what sign makes the most money. Okay. And I said, I just,

00:06:59.200 and then the report came back. I said, you gotta be kidding me. This sign makes the most money,

00:07:04.080 you know, and the way I ran it, I ran it based on months. I didn't want it based on signs,

00:07:08.480 you know, cause sign is a little bit different, but there was a trend. So the biggest thing to me was

00:07:13.760 trends. And then, you know, I started looking at these trends. I said, why do, why, why do April

00:07:19.040 babies do so well? Is it because they put a lot of pressure on themselves to make sure they get the

00:07:23.600 job done in areas? They work in a separate step, a different way. And Virgos are perfectionists.

00:07:28.400 And why are they, why is it like they have the perfect cut hair, everything? And why is it that

00:07:33.200 Libras are good at reasoning and the way they work? And why is it that I've always gotten along

00:07:38.720 with an Aquarius in my life? I've never had a moment that I've not gotten along with an Aquarius,

00:07:43.520 except for maybe Lucius Prescott, Lucius, him and I didn't get along, but everybody else I got along

00:07:48.720 with. So the question I have for you is when was the moment for you when you get in? Because you

00:07:54.800 know, when you say astrology, if you say astrology to a Christian person, they're like, I don't believe 1.00

00:07:59.440 in it. I don't even want to think about it. I don't even want to, you know, a lot of religious 0.98

00:08:02.160 people like don't even bring it up to me. And some people are like, I don't believe in this.

00:08:05.840 It's fake. It's not this. It's just a bunch of BS. But to me, I've seen like 20 years I've been

00:08:11.520 following this stuff. I've seen a little bit that there's something there. What formulas early on did you see,

00:08:17.280 Ray, that you were kind of like, wow, this makes a lot of sense? Was there like a moment for you

00:08:22.320 where you said there's a lot of trends that I'm noticing? There may be more credibility than I

00:08:27.280 thought before I met this man. I think where that happened to me was when I got involved in being a

00:08:39.920 radio producer and interviewer. Everything that I felt prior to that had to do with me not really

00:08:52.880 being good enough to do any of that kind of stuff. I had that kind of opinion. And it wasn't even just

00:08:58.960 that. I wasn't interested. I preferred the hands-on elbow bumps, hugs, and contact with people. But then

00:09:08.880 I discovered, you see, from everything that I'd been told, I'm a Sagittarius. And that explains

00:09:18.000 something to me about why I was always really feeling weird about people being negative around me,

00:09:24.960 always pointing out all the things that could go wrong and all that. So I started talking to people

00:09:32.720 in that same coffee house who were associated with the University of California at Berkeley.

00:09:40.400 And they introduced me to some of these people in radio and they said, oh, you're the voice we need.

00:09:45.680 And I said, no, no, no, I'm not. And then I found out that at the very moment that this was happening,

00:09:51.680 there was an eclipse happening on the same degree that my moon was. I have a moon in Leo.

00:10:00.160 You and I get along on Leo because everything you told me about yourself, I have it right here. You're

00:10:06.640 in all intent and purpose, I think you're Leo rising. I know you got a Jupiter in Leo, but we won't go

00:10:12.160 there yet because you want to know more about what that happened. So that moment, I realized that all of

00:10:18.400 my fears had been undercut and I found myself in front of a microphone interviewing some people that

00:10:25.040 in my estimation were above my station. But I walked in there and I just did what I did because I didn't

00:10:36.000 care about all of that kind of stuff. I just cared about talking about the truth and about positivity and

00:10:42.800 about the direction and about higher consciousness, spirituality, religion, all that kind of stuff.

00:10:49.120 And astrology then just kept on telling me day after day, you're in the right place, Ray. Just give up on

00:10:57.440 feeling comfortable or inadequate. And God, the cosmos, the source or whatever, put me there.

00:11:06.480 So I need to do what it is that feels good to me. And I always felt really, really good when an idea

00:11:14.480 of mine would light up somebody's eyes and say, oh, gee, I never thought of that.

00:11:21.360 So that was a way for me to continuously feel that I was doing the right thing. It wasn't me trying to

00:11:28.880 run away from reality. I mean, I was brought up a Catholic, although I never really practiced it so much.

00:11:36.240 It was pretty, pretty difficult to do that, especially the family that I had was Catholic,

00:11:43.440 but nobody ever went to church and everybody was in everybody else's face about one thing or another.

00:11:50.880 So my answer to that was, hey, mom, I want to go in the Air Force. Okay. She said, sure.

00:11:57.120 Day before that, I asked to go in the Boy Scout. She said it was too dangerous.

00:12:02.160 Boy Scout? No, but Air Force is fine.

00:12:04.240 Boy Scout would be too dangerous. Oh, camping out in the woods like that. That's dangerous, man.

00:12:10.480 But can you go in the Air Force?

00:12:13.920 So keep going. I'm listening.

00:12:16.480 Well, that's basically taking me back to the psychology of this guy who is in the military.

00:12:24.960 Did you have an epiphany? Did you have a moment where you're like, listen, because to me,

00:12:29.440 I'm not solving for 100%. And I think you aren't as well. Maybe you may be, meaning

00:12:34.960 I think you can 100% of the time guess what someone's sign is and say, well, this is what it is.

00:12:40.320 Because when you sit there and think about signs, you know, like if I look at the, in my business,

00:12:45.360 and I'll say I have seven cancers. They're earners. Okay. Different background. One has a degree,

00:12:53.200 one doesn't have a degree. Parents, religion, you know, upbringing. Dad was there. Dad wasn't there.

00:12:59.840 You know, major setback in teens, major setback in twenties, you know, uh, then a bad relationship,

00:13:07.520 a bad, you know, betrayal, you know, all of that religious beliefs, all of that stuff kind of

00:13:14.560 makes up who we are. But the foundation, would you say the foundation is still

00:13:20.320 our sign based on where you believe as somebody that's been doing this for 50 years? What would

00:13:24.160 you say would be the foundation of my DNA, my individual as who I am, Patrick by David?

00:13:30.400 Well, I'll give you, I'll give you a little bit of an insight to the way I talk to a person. They

00:13:35.760 ask, they're coming to me with the same question, whether they actually ask it or not. I say, look,

00:13:42.240 at the moment that, um, your body takes your first breath, you got to understand you're not your body.

00:13:48.640 Your body is something a mother made. And while it's in the womb, it's a water breathing creature, 1.00

00:13:55.040 even has gills, breathes, drinks, works with amniotic fluid. Mother puts it out into the room, 0.50

00:14:03.360 can't breathe, got a traumatic experience already, gets whacked on the bottom, goes like that. Well,

00:14:10.000 what comes in with the breath, almost like a Trojan horse, that air carries your spiritual DNA. And that

00:14:17.040 is the conf, that the, the, the, the way the solar system is at the moment. And it comes into, uh,

00:14:25.440 into your body that way. And the reason that, that, that, that is the case for everybody is because,

00:14:31.760 you know, the moon goes around the earth and you have this, uh, was borrowed from quantum physics,

00:14:38.240 whole idea of the wave state of the moon is its orbit. It makes, uh, the earth a yoke,

00:14:45.040 becomes the womb of the solar system. And so everything that is going on in the solar system

00:14:50.880 is solar system manifesting, creating all kinds of versions of itself. And that's because if you look at

00:14:58.880 what the, uh, uh, cosmologists have been saying for the last 20, 30 years, the cosmos seems to

00:15:06.320 be attempting to become aware of itself. And that means that it seems to be tuned,

00:15:13.520 fine-tuned to create life. So it has a sense of being alive. So if, if the cosmos is alive in that

00:15:21.280 way, the solar system is alive in that way because it's a part of it. So the solar system is comprised of

00:15:28.240 the sun and the sun is 99.86% of the mass of the solar system. So that means a very, very small amount

00:15:36.640 for all the rest of it. So the sun is the creator, if you will, or the animator. And the planets are

00:15:44.880 like the genes. They're like the organs of the solar system. So the solar system is you at the time you

00:15:52.480 were born. The solar system becomes you and me when me, but it's the same solar system produced the same

00:15:59.600 sun in the sky when you were born and I was born. So when people start talking about this woo woo stuff

00:16:05.360 we're all one, there is a cosmological reality to that. So the foundation is when you take your first

00:16:16.160 breath, that path you're on, whatever is rising. So you've been on this path of Leo rising.

00:16:23.120 You've been challenging yourself from the day you were born. And in your experiences coming out of

00:16:30.160 Iran and in the whole idea of being a refugee and so forth, what you saw in those years from

00:16:39.920 seven to 12, 13 and 14, man, you know, you were not really satisfied with that's good. You were upset.

00:16:50.160 And you took that upset and decided I'm getting out of there and I'm going to find a way out of there.

00:16:57.840 And around 10 or 12, the whole circumstance arrived. Total confusion on your part as to what was

00:17:05.280 happening. All of a sudden you found yourself in the United States.

00:17:08.800 And you looked at the United States and you heard what they're saying to say, you can be anybody you

00:17:15.520 want here. You said, that's for me. I know what I want to be because I know what I have been.

00:17:23.440 And I have been lost and poor and angry. No more. Nobody's going to push me around ever again.

00:17:30.160 And on top of that, I've got something to offer. And I want to work to serve and help people.

00:17:36.400 That's my whole deal. I'm here to help people. And the only way I can do that according to your chart

00:17:41.680 is to learn and learn and learn. I can't at the time when you started thinking this way,

00:17:47.920 I can't afford to go to university anymore. Well, OK, I'll bring them to me. I'll bring

00:17:54.160 these teachers to me rather than me having to pay bucks, all kinds of money to just go hear what I

00:17:59.600 think I already know. So that's a short version of how your path is going.

00:18:06.000 Now, you know, I'm October 18. I'm Libra. I was born October 18.

00:18:09.840 October 18, 1978. The sun is in the last 10 degrees of Libra. And what follows that is one,

00:18:17.840 two, three, four planets in Scorpio, the investigator. The guy is going to get into and

00:18:24.960 find out what makes it all tick. I want to know why this works. That's correct.

00:18:30.720 I want to understand it. Not only that, but I hope that it changes my financial situation,

00:18:39.280 what I learn, or it can change my values. I even want to believe in something. Believe it or not,

00:18:47.440 I want to believe in something. Please give me something to believe in. And the end result was,

00:18:52.080 I believe in me. That's the driver. But to me that you are is an aspect of this thing called the cosmos,

00:19:03.440 which is what's called God, if you want to call it something. You know, there's all kinds of concepts

00:19:08.960 of God among people in the world. You can go from Islam to Buddhism. You can go from Buddhism to

00:19:17.600 you name it, right? Well, what you have is nobody really know. But you end up having to feel it.

00:19:32.320 And in your case, you know, the whole business of how you, you were able to transcend things was because

00:19:42.320 of the way that you felt about your family background and upbringing and everything. You

00:19:47.600 hit 24, five, six, and you were unhappy clearly about how your mom and dad were doing whatever

00:19:56.480 they were doing and all the experiences and you were upset. So you said, okay, I'm going to get out

00:20:02.640 of this and I'm going to develop myself. So, I mean, uh, I don't know where you want to go from there,

00:20:10.960 but I mean, it's like you, you, you, you, uh, psychoanalyzed all of that. Ray, do you believe

00:20:19.040 in God yourself? Are you somebody who believes in God? Well, I'm looking at the sky and I'm saying

00:20:24.240 to myself, that's the fabric of God. Do you think there was a creator, like a creator

00:20:31.760 that put all this together, you know? Well, I mean, uh, that creator is still

00:20:36.720 creating and that creator is the cosmos and you are a part of the cosmos. So at the deepest level,

00:20:44.160 you're an aspect of God, but the God of the Christians and the Islam and Judaism is too small. 0.99

00:20:54.720 It's too vindictive. It's too human. You know, you read in the Bible that, um, we are made in the image

00:21:04.160 of God. The reality, I believe, is that God, the Christians have created, they've created. It's 1.00

00:21:13.920 their imagination of what it is. And I think that's wonderful, but it is too human. It's,

00:21:21.200 it's too vindictive. It wants to punish you if you do something wrong and so forth.

00:21:25.760 There's nothing about learning except to obey, obey, obey, obey. Now for, you know, 10,000 years,

00:21:35.520 Saturn in the sky was considered to be, um, the furthest out plan you could see with your naked eye

00:21:41.360 in those 10,000 years. These kinds of authoritarian points of view, uh, whether it's religion,

00:21:49.280 spirituality, or politics, uh, it's a top down. The best example is the Pharaoh. People in those days

00:21:57.680 lived hardly ever past 40, 45, ancient by that time. And the Pharaoh was supposed to be a God that fell

00:22:05.040 from the sky to help humanity and humanity in return was supposed to provide him a trip back to the sky.

00:22:13.040 Well, that's what the pyramid was for. And people were dedicated to building that pyramid for when

00:22:19.600 the Pharaoh, Pharaoh dies, puts in the sarcophagus in the King's chamber, there is a shaft of light

00:22:25.520 that comes from an opening that's strategically placed where a certain star, in some cases, you know,

00:22:31.280 could be Deneb or any other kind of star, but this specific star that was supposed to then hit that

00:22:39.520 sarcophagus and bring the Pharaoh back to his position as a star in the cosmos. So we have all 0.81

00:22:45.600 kinds of ideas and fantasies and, um, stories about why we're here and what we're supposed to do.

00:22:53.280 So what I found in astrology is that's the closest thing I've ever seen that explains how God works.

00:23:00.000 So I look, I look at, uh, I look at the pattern of, uh, the solar system, the, um, the spiritual DNA

00:23:11.120 and each of these planets, you know, have a specific function, you know, um, Mercury, for instance.

00:23:18.240 Oh, I want to go back just for a moment to what you said about all these cancers you have. You know,

00:23:23.280 you know why you have them? Why? They have this powerful thing called image making power,

00:23:29.200 imagination. They're bonkers on the inside. You never know what they're going to come up with,

00:23:34.320 but God, sometimes the stuff that comes up, boy, you monetize that in an instant. Boom. There it is.

00:23:40.800 You don't have to go through development. Cancer is ruled by the moon and the moon is the development,

00:23:47.680 the internal process of developing who you are. So these guys are, are really always popping out

00:23:54.320 something that could grow, you know, and some of it needs more watering than others. They're nurturers.

00:24:00.880 They will take care of each other. They'll take care of anybody that's working with them. Uh, they're

00:24:07.200 fine. Great. You got, uh, people in that respect. So, so go, going back to what you just said, because

00:24:13.920 you just took me to a whole different, uh, conversation. I got a bunch of other things

00:24:17.200 I want to follow up on, but, um, so, so do, do you tie yourself to a denomination? Just are you,

00:24:24.240 would you say, you know, I consider myself non-denomination, atheist, agnostic, Catholic, or

00:24:30.720 no, I, I, I, I believe more in the zodiac than I believe in a God. Well, I, I, I believe in the

00:24:38.400 zodiac and I am a Buddhist. Okay. Okay. So that's, and by the way, I always say, if I wasn't a

00:24:44.460 Christian, I'd be a Buddhist. If I wasn't a Christian. Yeah. I always say, if I wasn't a

00:24:48.600 Christian, I would be a Buddhist. So then, then this takes me to the next part, because

00:24:52.320 I think it's fair to say, did you actually end up going to UC Berkeley or you just were by the coffee

00:24:58.040 shop around UC Berkeley? Oh, it was just around the coffee shop. Okay. Got it. Well, it's further

00:25:03.220 into the, in the air force. Okay. Got it. So, you know, I think it's fair to say the last 18

00:25:09.540 months have been very divisive in America. I had a friend of mine that came yesterday. One of my

00:25:12.940 advisors, very good friend, his husband and wife were here and we had lunch at this local fish spot

00:25:18.820 in Boca. And I said, you guys been on longer than I have. I've only been in America since November

00:25:23.980 28th, 1990, which is 30 years plus two months. Right. So you guys have been in America for a

00:25:30.520 long time and everything else with me for the history of America is based on books I've read.

00:25:33.780 Or I've watched a debate between Nixon and Kennedy. I went and studied FDR. I went and studied what

00:25:38.860 happened, but it's not, I wasn't in the heat of the moment and following it. Right. And politics was

00:25:44.520 probably not nothing, not something I was interested in until the last 12, 15 years. That's when I really

00:25:49.460 said, I want to know more. So, you know, I have friends who are Democrats. I have friends who are

00:25:55.860 Republicans. I have friends who are independent. I have friends who are libertarians. And you sit

00:26:02.760 down with a Democrat. He can convince you that what he believes in that is a hundred percent, right.

00:26:08.800 You can sit down with a Republican. He can convince you he's a hundred percent, right. You can sit down

00:26:13.280 with an independent. She can convince you she's a hundred percent, right. Same with a libertarian.

00:26:16.720 How much of this is the truth or your truth based on your wiring, your Zodiac?

00:26:25.360 I don't know if you know what I'm asking or not.

00:26:27.220 Like, does our Zodiac sign and the way we're born, we automatically are politically Republican or Democrat or independent?

00:26:34.440 Is there some trends and patterns between those?

00:26:38.620 Well, I mean, you're asking if truth is relative or not.

00:26:43.580 You know, relative truth.

00:26:45.020 I mean, I am convinced that the solar system and astrology are a very good way for people to understand what is going on with them and what their life is about and what the best way for them to be is.

00:27:05.460 The astrology moment of birth creates this chart, you know.

00:27:10.900 And the point is that the chart does not tell you that you have to do this.

00:27:18.160 You have free will.

00:27:20.420 You can either develop yourself.

00:27:23.260 What the chart says is this is the best way.

00:27:26.320 This is if you do this in a way that is clear and increases your consciousness and awareness and so forth.

00:27:33.360 Everything that you do will fall into line and it's the best way for you to go.

00:27:38.240 Well, people, whether they're Republicans, Democrats or independents or Buddhists or Catholics, they're going to go according to how they feel.

00:27:49.600 And that is going to be determined by the conditioning of their first 14 years in their life.

00:27:58.520 The conditioning.

00:27:59.960 That gives them an idea of who they are in a sense based on how they either fit or don't fit and what they're told they're going to have to do and so forth.

00:28:10.620 But, you know, the idea that you're bringing up is that every one of these people, in one way or another, have found their way to what they believe in, according to how they are responding to the circumstances that they develop.

00:28:25.760 But there's so many different levels that you, that you, that you, that you have in a human being, you know, everybody operates, first of all, on the biological level.

00:28:35.560 And gradually, socially, you become a sociocultural character, you're playing a participant, you get married, you do these things, you have children and all that.

00:28:45.760 And then all of a sudden, in some, not all of a sudden, but through a process of growth and development, you then become an individual who looks at society and says, I'm going to get out of that section, I'm going to do this.

00:29:00.340 And then beyond that, you become completely successful, you make tens of millions and billions of dollars, and you still feel empty.

00:29:10.540 There's still something that you need to do.

00:29:14.440 And that's where you begin to understand the concept of feeling the divinity calling within you to God.

00:29:23.000 But to me, God is the cosmos.

00:29:25.440 We're living in God.

00:29:27.700 We are a part of God.

00:29:29.440 We're a thought of God.

00:29:30.920 So these cosmologists of today are basically saying that the cosmos is a great thought.

00:29:44.880 I asked you that question for a reason.

00:29:47.000 The reason why I asked that question is because, so, you know, I like data.

00:29:53.240 I'm a big data guy.

00:29:54.740 Data tells a story, right?

00:29:56.120 If I pull up data, I can learn a lot about anything, data.

00:29:59.200 If I'm running a business, say I'm selling alcohol, okay?

00:30:05.440 Run my dates on what day I sell what the most.

00:30:09.280 And then I'll say, okay, I see a trend.

00:30:10.540 December, such and such.

00:30:12.140 Wow, people drink a lot on Thanksgiving Day.

00:30:14.580 And, you know, stats showing that Thanksgiving Eve is the highest drinking day of the year.

00:30:21.600 By the way, that's actually a factual statement and research I've seen, right?

00:30:25.180 So, okay.

00:30:25.460 Okay, so while you're talking, I go online and I say, what are the most common zodiac signs to believe in God?

00:30:31.640 And what comes up is it says three zodiac signs who are most likely to become atheists.

00:30:36.820 Okay.

00:30:38.120 Capricorn, Virgo, Taurus.

00:30:40.460 Okay.

00:30:41.140 Then I go and pull up to prepare for the interview.

00:30:43.880 I'm like, you know what?

00:30:44.360 I'm curious.

00:30:44.820 What zodiac sign have we had the most presidents with?

00:30:48.040 Used to be 5-5.

00:30:49.120 I'm sure you know this.

00:30:50.020 Now Biden made it 6-5.

00:30:51.500 Scorpions now at the top.

00:30:53.100 Then you got Aquarius is at 5, which is Lincoln, FDR, Harrison, McKinley.

00:30:57.660 Then you got Cancer, Capricorn, Leo, Libra, Pisces tied at 4.

00:31:01.120 Then you got Gemini and Sagittarius 3.

00:31:04.400 Arius and Virgo is 2, right?

00:31:07.140 And then Gemini's, you got JFK, Bush Sr. and Trump, all the same.

00:31:10.720 Interesting.

00:31:11.340 Leo's, you got Obama, Clinton.

00:31:13.420 Same.

00:31:14.300 Interesting.

00:31:15.180 So I look at a lot of data.

00:31:18.080 And, you know, I mean, by the way, there's some crazy data that's been pulled up.

00:31:21.440 I don't know, like, the data, if you've done research on this yourself.

00:31:24.620 Cancers are the most dangerous.

00:31:25.880 According to FBI, data shows that cancers are the most frequently arrested of all signs,

00:31:30.920 and their crimes are often more serious than others.

00:31:35.280 Cancers, right?

00:31:36.460 You got Tesla, Elon Musk, Tom Cruise, Robin Williams, George Michael.

00:31:39.600 So Leos are most likely to hit the gym the most, twice as much as everybody else.

00:31:44.440 Leos are also the worst drivers.

00:31:46.440 They get 40% more speeding tickets than Libras, except this Libra. 1.00

00:31:50.380 I guarantee you I got all Leos beaten in speeding tickets.

00:31:53.980 That's a promise right there, right?

00:31:55.920 So I go into this, you know, the top athletes are frequently Aquarians, you know, Michael

00:32:01.020 Jordan, you know, 21% of top best athletes in all sports, Aquarians.

00:32:06.020 Number, second place is cancer, 12%.

00:32:08.100 So again, I can go on serial killers are two signs, Pisces and Gemini.

00:32:12.400 I pull up all this data.

00:32:14.080 And it tells you something.

00:32:16.240 So how much of it is, like, is there that much of if you are a sign and how you are,

00:32:22.440 that's going to dictate how you're going to be, I mean, you know, the data can tell us

00:32:27.960 a story.

00:32:28.520 What are your thoughts about the data that links to different signs?

00:32:32.840 Well, the data doesn't tell anything about dictation.

00:32:37.380 It tells about how people either were able to use their sun sign energy for positive things

00:32:46.640 or negative things.

00:32:49.140 And the most serious negative things usually come out of experiences in the first 28 years

00:32:56.560 of a person's life, usually in the first 14.

00:33:00.480 And the reason for that is that in those first 14 years of your life, half of them is the

00:33:05.660 development of the ego.

00:33:07.320 And the other half is the ego trying to figure out how to feel about that.

00:33:10.860 So there, there you are, you know, um, in those, in those, uh, in your, in your, in your

00:33:19.480 situation, you, you have, um, the reason you do this is you have, uh, something in Virgo

00:33:26.080 called Saturn.

00:33:28.820 And it's in the house of what is valuable.

00:33:32.960 And what to you is valuable is your analysis and your breakdown, and you give some kind

00:33:39.800 of structure as to what people are doing.

00:33:42.980 What kind of work are they doing?

00:33:44.360 How are they?

00:33:45.320 You're interested in all kinds of data.

00:33:47.960 That's what Virgo is like very critically, uh, critical analysis.

00:33:52.820 I mean, you go up and down on data alone, but the idea also with astrology is you have

00:33:58.340 to be careful with that because, um, Ted, for instance, the Gemini's, right?

00:34:03.680 There was Kennedy and then there's, you know, Trump, a lot, Trump, whatever.

00:34:07.780 I can't remember.

00:34:11.300 Isn't he your favorite president?

00:34:12.560 I thought he's your favorite, I saw a picture in the background of his, uh,

00:34:15.420 He was my favorite, favorite president.

00:34:18.700 Uh, Kennedy, uh, as a Gemini, had, uh, was not.

00:34:29.300 Like Trump, Trump, uh, Gemini function is to confront conflict and resolve it.

00:34:38.820 But a Gemini, uh, like Trump will take a conflict and use it to separate and split 0.56

00:34:46.100 people up to keep himself in power.

00:34:49.360 That's how, that's how he works.

00:34:50.780 That's how he gains power.

00:34:52.500 He just turns people against each other.

00:34:55.080 And that's everything that he ever did.

00:34:56.780 Whereas Kennedy did the opposite.

00:34:58.880 He did the Gemini thing of bringing people together and overcoming conflict and trying

00:35:03.940 to connect and communicate and understand, you know, first words out of his mouth, inauguration,

00:35:10.060 friends and foes alike, you know, talking to everybody, we're going to connect and we're

00:35:16.180 going to be real and you can count on us.

00:35:18.220 Now you asked a little earlier, all these years that I've been here and you've been here for

00:35:23.760 20, I saw, I've seen this country decline in very, very slow, serious way for it.

00:35:31.880 And just the word organic food, what a mind blowing thing.

00:35:36.480 That is, I grew up and there was nothing but organic food.

00:35:41.040 That's all.

00:35:41.640 There was no chemical.

00:35:43.580 It was no big ad.

00:35:45.160 And we had a lot of local farmers and they didn't use pesticide because they didn't exist.

00:35:53.620 So they used the farmers' almanacs.

00:35:56.660 They used all kinds of things, but they did it organically and so forth.

00:36:00.320 Little by little, through all kinds of ways of, you know, the Agricultural Department of

00:36:08.560 the United States, the government itself and the school system, discovering that by the

00:36:15.860 time it got to World War II, didn't have enough healthy kids to make soldiers out of.

00:36:21.420 So there was this school lunch program that was put together and that made it necessary

00:36:26.960 for, have enough surplus to be able to give it to them.

00:36:31.780 So you end up with a lot of energy going into putting chemicals into the ground as a way of

00:36:41.220 growing more food and on and on it goes.

00:36:43.300 Until now, you have to pay extra to not have food with chemicals in it.

00:36:49.900 So that's only one example of the political thing.

00:36:52.540 I mean, the political parties in the formation of the country, there were never, there weren't

00:36:58.360 any political parties when they formed this country in 1776.

00:37:02.420 It never dawned on them.

00:37:03.940 So that's why the Electoral College is such a mess because they were thinking of all the

00:37:08.580 states being bound together loosely by an agreement to be part of the United States.

00:37:14.580 And so they could have this vote and they could do that.

00:37:17.180 But it was all about slavery in the United States at the time because slaves, the slave

00:37:23.520 states didn't have enough population, voting population, to be able to win an election.

00:37:30.560 They were all in the bigger cities and so forth.

00:37:33.620 Well, the solution to that was Electoral College where they said, okay, you guys are going to get

00:37:41.080 so many votes and we're going to increase your population by taking every slave you have 1.00

00:37:46.860 and counting it as three-fifths of a person.

00:37:50.860 Now, that is where it all starts and comes from.

00:37:54.640 And racism, you know, the country, the United States, for instance, is a cancer, right?

00:38:00.400 Now, cancer is all about race, but it means human race.

00:38:06.080 It means human race because it's an astrological thing of God, if you will.

00:38:11.080 And human beings have turned it into racism because what you said about cancers perfectly

00:38:20.700 fits the United States, our behavior in this world.

00:38:26.040 You know, we have this bring me your poor, your downtrodden and so forth.

00:38:33.240 And then we have a president like this who does that.

00:38:36.280 So cancer can be very viciously awful, mean, and terrible.

00:38:42.200 And it can be also very kind, wonderful, and nurturing.

00:38:46.500 And it all depends upon what happens to that in the growing up stages.

00:38:52.740 So a country has an ego just like this person.

00:38:55.960 Makes sense.

00:38:56.580 You know, some of the best leaders of my company are cancers.

00:38:59.260 Like, I mean, and I'm not talking about one or two.

00:39:01.240 A number of them are cancers.

00:39:02.620 So, yeah.

00:39:03.460 So if you don't mind, I wouldn't like, if you just go and say, here's the fabric of

00:39:07.820 an Aquarius, here's a fabric of a Pisces, because I watched that video you had with

00:39:12.360 cut.

00:39:12.620 And I watched it a few times because, you know, girl comes in and she smiles at you.

00:39:17.220 You're like, oh, are you Pisces?

00:39:19.100 Why?

00:39:19.600 Fish, teeth, feet, fish.

00:39:21.080 You have it.

00:39:21.640 So let me see your ear.

00:39:22.600 And then you looked at the ear.

00:39:23.540 You're like, your ears are pokey.

00:39:24.560 You're going to be, you know, and let me see this.

00:39:26.480 Can you stand?

00:39:26.940 Let me see your hands.

00:39:27.640 Turn your hands around.

00:39:28.920 Okay.

00:39:29.200 If you have something like this, are you, oh, you agree too much here.

00:39:31.260 Let me change the sign.

00:39:31.900 Give the sign back.

00:39:32.600 This is you.

00:39:33.320 If you were there, you wouldn't agree that.

00:39:35.140 I mean, you know, the way you went back and forth.

00:39:37.320 So it, it made it very technical.

00:39:39.960 Like it didn't even make it easy to make an analysis.

00:39:43.300 So would you mind taking a minute and just kind of going through each sign and what the

00:39:47.780 commonalities amongst those signs are?

00:39:50.180 Well, uh, sure.

00:39:51.780 Okay.

00:39:52.120 Um, uh, if, you know, the makeup of, of a person is more than their sun sign, but the sun sign

00:40:00.740 in some way has a, a physical, um, kind of, of manifestation.

00:40:08.440 And now take an Aries person, for instance, um, psychologically, emotionally, you're going 0.93

00:40:15.560 to find them very impulsive, um, and, um, pretty hot tempered, open, uh, very easily, you know,

00:40:24.620 ticked off in some kind of a way.

00:40:26.780 And there you'll, you'll, when you look at them, almost everything about them is in their

00:40:33.700 head.

00:40:34.120 You know, I don't mean psychologically, but the shape of their head, the way that they

00:40:39.420 talk is in your head.

00:40:41.320 You know, they don't use their hands so much that they're this way and that way.

00:40:45.120 And they use their head a lot and, and, and, and their head, uh, is what Aries rules. 0.97

00:40:52.400 If you're looking at astrology book and say, what part of the body does Aries rule, it rules 0.98

00:40:57.160 the head.

00:40:57.540 So you can tell an Aries, generally speaking, but it isn't always true that the, the, that

00:41:04.640 they're going to look that way because of being Aries. 0.97

00:41:07.560 Sometimes they're a Taurus, but they have an Aries rising.

00:41:11.760 What was rising on the Eastern horizon when they took their first breath, that also has

00:41:17.580 an effect on their physical appearance.

00:41:20.300 So, uh, an Aries rising may, um, be more apparent to you than, or to anyone, than the, the, the

00:41:29.260 fact that they're Taurus.

00:41:31.140 But the Aries energy is, is pretty clear.

00:41:33.780 They're impulsive.

00:41:35.380 Um, they're kind of bullheaded.

00:41:40.400 The way they handle problems is, oh, there's another brick wall to smash instead of going

00:41:47.440 under or rounder or anything, you know, they just go right at it.

00:41:52.060 Uh, a Taurus on the other hand, we'll look at that wall for a half an hour and then turn

00:42:02.120 around and think about it, turn around and look at that wall for another half hour and then

00:42:08.540 decide, eh, I'll go around.

00:42:11.020 Uh, a Taurus is energy that is based on the shoulders.

00:42:19.080 You can find a Taurus as Taurus athletes have huge necks.

00:42:24.540 There's a little head on a big neck, you know, the Taurus part of a person, that Taurus person,

00:42:30.780 if, uh, you're dealing with, let's say the female of the species, Tauruses are beautiful.

00:42:38.120 They are fertile, they are just gorgeous, lovely people.

00:42:46.440 And it works that way for men too, from the perspective of their, their, their, their sense

00:42:52.540 of solidity, they're, they're built like a block, you know, the guys, the ladies are built 1.00

00:43:01.640 like an hourglass, you know, they're just all very, very sexually attractive.

00:43:09.980 Sounds like you've had some, uh, interesting Tauruses in your life.

00:43:13.380 I'm married to one.

00:43:16.640 She's over there listening.

00:43:20.440 No, it's true.

00:43:21.780 It's true.

00:43:22.620 Um, Taurus ladies are, are very beautiful.

00:43:25.460 They're, they're very fertile.

00:43:26.620 They're, they're, they're very supportive.

00:43:29.240 Um, and, and the thing about it is that you can't push them, but once they make up their

00:43:34.960 mind, a Taurus person, you can see by they're, they're the beginnings of Libra.

00:43:42.640 And the reason I'll tell you that is this.

00:43:46.240 The sign Libra is ruled by Venus.

00:43:50.040 The sign Taurus is ruled by Venus.

00:43:52.240 The Taurus guy or girl will say, I don't really care what people think of me.

00:43:59.440 I'm going to do what I want to do the way I want to do it at the time I want to do it

00:44:04.300 in the speed I want to do it, but I'm going to do it.

00:44:08.880 So don't try and stop me.

00:44:12.060 Libra on the other hand, the Venus that rose there is like, well, I am a social creature

00:44:18.040 and I have to sort of like not rock the boat.

00:44:21.960 What my job is, is to get, be friendly and happy with everybody else because I'm a salesman

00:44:29.780 and I've got all this stuff in Scorpio.

00:44:33.100 So I want to be really, really nice to people so that I can do the Scorpio thing of using

00:44:38.280 them to get myself advanced.

00:44:42.220 And I'll take them along too, because that's part of the bargain.

00:44:45.060 I'm a Libra.

00:44:46.120 I have to be fair.

00:44:47.760 So you care what people think about you.

00:44:50.820 And on top of that, with the Leo rising, not only do you care about it, but you need it.

00:44:57.240 You need people to like you.

00:45:00.000 You really, really do.

00:45:02.760 Because in your chart, after the rising sign of Leo, what comes up is Virgo.

00:45:08.040 And Virgo gets a little self-doubt and says, am I good enough?

00:45:12.320 If people like you, then you can say, yeah, I'm good enough.

00:45:16.040 Not only that, but I'm better than good enough.

00:45:18.920 Because you've got, anyway, I could just go through your whole chart.

00:45:22.360 You were like going straight to it.

00:45:24.700 Yeah, I know.

00:45:25.160 So in Pisces, I think you went through Aries, Taurus, you went into Libra, you went into

00:45:31.740 Cancer.

00:45:33.000 We spent some time on Cancer.

00:45:35.340 What can you say about Aquarius?

00:45:38.020 What I say about Aquarius is, they are, they're in a whole other universe.

00:45:47.060 They're living in a kind of consciousness that says, I don't believe everything in that little

00:45:57.420 box you want me to live in.

00:45:59.240 I want to live outside the box, where my job is to take everything that exists and make

00:46:07.240 something else out of it.

00:46:09.160 I want to live outside the box.

00:46:11.320 I want to be part of something bigger than myself.

00:46:13.840 I want to live on a, in a logical way.

00:46:17.780 I don't really want to get hung up in a bunch of emotional morass about being angry about

00:46:22.880 this or the other.

00:46:24.140 I want to be simply logical, take care of business, take care of the group rather than myself as

00:46:32.420 an individual.

00:46:33.900 So Aquarius is a, is a, is a, is a wee kind of a person.

00:46:37.920 Whereas a Leo is often a me kind of a person, right?

00:46:43.060 Not that either one is right or wrong, but it's the way they are.

00:46:46.740 Take FDR for instance.

00:46:48.040 He is Aquarius.

00:46:49.560 And he was all about the us of it all.

00:46:52.660 And that's why he brought in the whole concept of social security.

00:46:56.800 Because he figured it had a responsibility for everybody to be able to at least have food

00:47:02.000 on the table and money to buy it.

00:47:05.680 Let's see what we got left.

00:47:06.800 So if we got the, we've covered, uh, uh, uh, let's do Scorpio and Pisces.

00:47:13.180 Scorpio.

00:47:15.280 Well, if, if you're, uh, as an example, um, a Scorpio, uh, fundamentally emotionally is an

00:47:24.540 extremely private person.

00:47:28.780 If, uh, you get in a relationship with a Scorpio, you best be aware of the fact that

00:47:36.140 they're not fully in it, no matter what it looks like, they protect themselves.

00:47:43.180 They are about survival and survival means it's their responsibility to be aware of dangers

00:47:52.700 involved and so forth.

00:47:53.740 So a Scorpio will put, uh, a mannequin into a relationship or trial balloon or something

00:48:00.700 like that.

00:48:01.260 And eventually they'll get more and more into it when they get hungry enough, because, you

00:48:06.440 know, the balloon is being fed, the mannequin is being fed all this love and attention and

00:48:11.640 the Scorpio is not getting it.

00:48:13.000 So then they inch in a little bit closer and so forth, but they need relationships to grow

00:48:18.940 because Scorpio follows Libra.

00:48:22.320 Libra is about relationship, you know, your relationship to everyone and everything.

00:48:28.120 And Scorpio is the result of that.

00:48:30.440 So a Scorpio person is in the result area and they have to have relationship to get results.

00:48:39.600 You know, that's really what your Scorpio energy is doing.

00:48:45.900 It's trying to get results from your relationships so that it knows, oh, what is it in me that needs

00:48:54.160 to be strengthened, right?

00:48:55.400 And for, for, for all your life, it boils down to having something to believe in, believing

00:49:05.140 in higher, believing in God, for instance, or whatever dimension of God consciousness you

00:49:12.780 might want to adopt and put your, your, your, your own psyche into, um, that, that's, that's

00:49:21.600 what your, uh, Scorpio energy is really trying to do.

00:49:27.380 Very helpful, by the way, as you're going through it, you know, I, I went a little bit deeper

00:49:31.400 to kind of look at some more data and different things came up.

00:49:34.860 Like, I'd be curious to know if you have a sign that who are, is there a linkage between

00:49:39.560 the happiest and the least happiest?

00:49:41.140 Because like right here, it says Capricorns have wandering eyes.

00:49:44.860 They're always looking.

00:49:45.820 Aries make up bulk of billionaires, according to Forbes.

00:49:49.520 So Forbes 400, the most billionaires are Aries. 0.99

00:49:53.560 Interesting.

00:49:54.080 When you think about that world leaders are often Scorpios.

00:49:56.740 Hence, six of them is ours, right?

00:49:59.640 A German astrologer named Franz Elspeth Ebertin predicted Hitler's rise to power based on his

00:50:06.560 astrological chart in 1924.

00:50:10.040 I mean, that's just crazy to be able to say, you know, so Sagittarius are twice as likely

00:50:14.860 to become famous.

00:50:15.940 Research conducted by Cartoon Network.

00:50:18.220 That's a pretty credible source to conduct that research, right?

00:50:22.760 You know, Democrats believe in astrology more than Republicans do.

00:50:26.740 According to Chapman University, which I've been to Chapman University, right?

00:50:30.900 Democrats believe in astrology more than Republicans.

00:50:33.380 That's the university you went to.

00:50:34.320 You went to Chapman.

00:50:35.380 One of the best movie schools in America.

00:50:38.420 Schizophrenia's signs, Aquarius and Pisces.

00:50:42.360 Both Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt believed heavily into astrology.

00:50:46.700 Top moneymakers, according to CareerBuilder, Scorpio, Leo, Cancer, Taurus, lowest earners,

00:50:53.180 Aquarians, Capricorns.

00:50:55.840 Pisces have the darkest thoughts studied by perceptual and motor skills.

00:50:59.960 Gemini switched jobs often.

00:51:01.920 Reagan hired an astrologer, a Republican president.

00:51:05.840 He wrote to Republicans, hires an astrologer.

00:51:08.920 The Scorpions are considered the sexiest sign.

00:51:11.760 I mean, you know, again, like I tell you, I'm a data guy.

00:51:14.640 But when you think about it, do you have some things where you notice, you know,

00:51:19.760 this sign's the most content, this sign's the happiest, this sign's the least happiest

00:51:23.580 on how they live?

00:51:25.840 Is there anything that you've seen there?

00:51:28.400 Well, you know, the thing about statistics is that that's just exactly what they are.

00:51:35.080 That's all that they are.

00:51:36.480 There's no one sign that is designed to be the happiest.

00:51:43.440 The propensity for happiness might be greater in one sign than another,

00:51:49.640 but it doesn't mean that that sign will always be considered that way.

00:51:54.580 But at the same time, all the statistics bring up that, yeah, these were all these, all these

00:52:00.680 Pisces, for instance, were, you know, mentally deranged in some kind of a way, right?

00:52:08.020 Well, that's because the danger of spirituality, if you will, of a Pisces function, you know,

00:52:20.000 Pisces is a sign that has no boundaries.

00:52:27.780 They are one with the cosmos, their sun degree.

00:52:31.620 It's just like they're all image, all imagination, all higher dimensions of awareness,

00:52:41.860 but the person might be afraid of that and be afraid of it and be scared and do things

00:52:50.280 because they're being spooked by it.

00:52:54.260 But then there's enlightenment, where the Pisces' possibility for enlightenment is such that

00:53:01.820 their oneness with the cosmos will leave them in a state of full awareness,

00:53:07.580 and so they're spiritually enlightened and they're beautiful, kind, and wonderful people.

00:53:13.460 They're very, very sensitive.

00:53:15.100 But that very sensitivity is what will cause one to go down a very negative path

00:53:20.440 and another to go on a positive path, the sensitivity level.

00:53:24.800 There's no boundary.

00:53:25.920 They can be almost anything.

00:53:28.580 When I'm dealing with Pisces, it's sometimes hard to find them because they're so fluid.

00:53:34.920 And the only place where there's structure that is providing they haven't lost all their teeth,

00:53:42.000 I can tell the Pisces by their teeth because their teeth, I call them fish teeth

00:53:49.460 because it's a Pisces who has teeth that look a certain way.

00:53:54.820 I can't describe really how they really look, but when I see Pisces' teeth, I know them.

00:54:01.800 I know that they're there.

00:54:02.900 And by the way, I saw her teeth, what it looked like, and it does kind of, I know that teeth.

00:54:08.140 I just don't know how to describe it either, and I've seen that teeth, you know, many times in my life.

00:54:12.640 Now I have to ask, next time I ask, and I say, are you a Pisces?

00:54:15.720 Why based on your teeth?

00:54:17.420 Because that's stuck in my head now.

00:54:19.180 So what sign have you noticed has been the toughest to read for you over the years?

00:54:24.180 The toughest one to read?

00:54:25.660 Yeah.

00:54:27.640 Scorpio.

00:54:29.080 Scorpio's the toughest to read.

00:54:30.220 Yeah.

00:54:31.560 Wow.

00:54:31.860 Because they have a natural tendency to hide.

00:54:45.780 The animal that, you know, in astrology, there's all these animals that epitomize what the sign is about.

00:54:53.600 And scorpion has two animals.

00:54:55.920 I mean, the scorpio has two animals.

00:54:57.560 It has a scorpion and the eagle.

00:55:02.100 Now, the scorpion operates this way.

00:55:06.040 It hides under a rock.

00:55:07.400 And if anything comes close to it, it comes out and takes a sting of it and moves back.

00:55:15.900 But it's always hidden.

00:55:17.500 And you can't get too close.

00:55:18.840 If you get too close to them, you don't know what stung you.

00:55:21.000 You just jump and move, right?

00:55:22.380 So they're hard to read in terms of whether or not they're going to accept you as a non-threatening thing.

00:55:33.840 Whereas the eagle flies high in the sky, sees the mouse down below, and comes down and just grabs that and that's it.

00:55:42.040 There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

00:55:44.940 It just happens.

00:55:46.020 So the difference between the two is the scorpion is the automatic stuff.

00:55:55.180 You know, they automatically attack.

00:55:58.660 So they try to hide because they don't want to attack because every time they do, they lose some of their energy.

00:56:04.540 I'll give you a good example of how serious it is for the scorpion.

00:56:08.540 It's the story of the scorpion and the frog.

00:56:10.700 Now, you're going to like this story.

00:56:14.360 You know, here's this lake, here's this frog, and here's this scorpion.

00:56:19.300 Well, the scorpion comes up to the lake and realizes it's got a long way to go and doesn't want to go all the way around.

00:56:27.360 And it says to the frog, hey, you know, you can swim.

00:56:30.360 I can't.

00:56:31.620 How about you give me a ride across the lake?

00:56:34.580 The frog looks at the scorpion and says, you're out of your mind.

00:56:38.340 You're a scorpion.

00:56:42.160 You're going to kill me.

00:56:44.800 And the scorpion says, come on.

00:56:48.040 You know, look.

00:56:50.200 How do you think I'm stupid?

00:56:51.820 You'll be out there in the middle of the lake?

00:56:53.200 I can't swim.

00:56:54.000 I'm going to sting you. 0.51

00:56:54.640 I'm going to drown.

00:56:55.540 Come on, man.

00:56:56.660 Use your head.

00:56:57.580 Sure.

00:56:58.480 Frog says, well, okay.

00:57:01.140 So they jump on there, jump on there.

00:57:02.920 And the frog, you know, is looking up saying, hey, thanks a lot, Mrs. Scorpion.

00:57:07.500 Hey, no problem.

00:57:08.280 And all of a sudden, zap, sting.

00:57:11.460 The frog looks at the scorpion and says, what the hell is wrong with you?

00:57:16.280 Now we're all going to die.

00:57:18.220 Scorpion says, sorry.

00:57:19.980 Just couldn't help it.

00:57:22.560 So they just have to be a certain way.

00:57:24.820 And in order for them to be a certain way, they have to hide that they are a certain way.

00:57:32.240 Scorpions.

00:57:32.720 I just pulled up scorpions.

00:57:33.860 Bill Gates is a scorpion.

00:57:35.340 Ryan Gosling, Leonardo DiCaprio, Puff Daddy.

00:57:38.920 You know, I don't know if there is any correlation there with scorpions.

00:57:45.660 You know, and Geminis.

00:57:46.800 You know, Geminis, some interesting people are Geminis.

00:57:50.220 Biggie, Tupac, Angelina Jolie, Johnny Depp, John F. Kennedy, you know, obviously Trump.

00:57:56.580 I think FDR was a Marilyn Monroe.

00:58:00.100 You know, I mean, I can go on with Geminis. 0.78

00:58:02.840 Are Geminis typically known for being very creative, like artists? 0.64

00:58:07.820 Do they have a very big creative side to them?

00:58:10.540 Well, I think what they're known for is argumentation.

00:58:14.980 They love to take the opposite side of any conversation.

00:58:25.480 I have a daughter that's a Gemini, and you're validating this.

00:58:29.540 She's four years old.

00:58:30.740 It's a constant.

00:58:33.360 Yeah, right.

00:58:33.980 No matter what.

00:58:34.700 Oh, no.

00:58:36.140 Do this, do this, do that.

00:58:37.780 But they do it just in order to be able to exist.

00:58:42.580 And they say, no, I mean, they want you to know what they think.

00:58:47.600 So they'll go on and on.

00:58:49.360 And once they start, oh, Chatterbox, the Gemini Chatterbox, that four-year-old of yours,

00:58:56.740 wait till C6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.

00:59:00.980 Rat-a-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta.

00:59:02.440 Hold on.

00:59:03.220 Too many words.

00:59:03.840 Too many words.

00:59:04.400 What do you want?

00:59:05.340 Lollipop.

00:59:07.560 You know, they're going to give you all the reasons in the world why they should have this

00:59:11.080 thing, but they won't tell you what it is until at the end you get tired and say, okay,

00:59:15.200 okay, all right, look, I got to go out.

00:59:17.040 What, what do you want?

00:59:18.080 Oh, yeah, golf, or sandwich, or a hug, a kiss, or something like that.

00:59:23.020 So Geminis are like that. 1.00

00:59:25.200 They really are communicative.

00:59:27.900 They love reading.

00:59:29.440 And their way of living is widespread rather than deep.

00:59:36.140 They're very curious.

00:59:37.720 You're a four-year-old.

00:59:39.960 Don't leave anything you should not see or touch anywhere near her because she's going

00:59:46.880 to pick it up, look at it, toss it around, and see what it can do.

00:59:51.480 Very, very.

00:59:52.640 It's so true. 0.84

00:59:53.540 Ray, I mean, I can go on with you for a couple hours.

00:59:56.200 I'd love to have dinner with somebody like you where we can just talk offline when once

01:00:00.220 the craziness goes away, but any final thoughts or conclusions or notes, any final things that

01:00:06.320 you have you want to share with us before we wrap up the interview?

01:00:09.620 Well, I think it's really important for people to try to rise above the social cultural conditioning

01:00:20.840 of the first 28 years of their life, if you want, if you will.

01:00:25.160 Because in the first 28 years of your life, you know, you're living in a cultural cocoon 0.99

01:00:30.740 in one fashion or another.

01:00:33.360 Even though you change cultures here and there, you're still, you know, you get born and you

01:00:40.120 crawl into this cocoon.

01:00:42.000 And sometime around 28, you have to say, wait a minute, I have to reconstruct myself.

01:00:50.800 So for me, it's important for people to use astrology for what it's worth.

01:00:59.900 It's a guide.

01:01:01.700 It is not a directive.

01:01:03.000 You know, I see astrology now more from a position of being transpersonal.

01:01:11.460 It's not so much about you succeeding or not succeeding.

01:01:15.600 It's about being the best you that you can be.

01:01:19.380 And for some people, that might mean remaining in poverty.

01:01:23.880 Not mean that they shouldn't try to get out of it and all that, but they need to learn how

01:01:29.200 to work with it.

01:01:30.040 You have to learn to work with what you're given, right?

01:01:34.980 So I really think that in the coming years, as far as the planet is concerned, people need

01:01:45.020 to be more conscious of the fact that your environment is you.

01:01:50.360 And as human beings, we need to be more conscious of how we interact with the planet.

01:01:55.960 Because I think it was John Lilly of Eli Lilly and Company who said back in the 80s or so,

01:02:05.440 humanity has become a virus, destroying its host.

01:02:09.760 And that has to change.

01:02:10.940 So the only way I can see that changing is by becoming aware of the fact that we're having

01:02:18.720 this kind of effect on the planet and begin to be able to figure out how to change ourselves

01:02:26.120 within ourselves to be able to be better at our interaction with one another and therefore

01:02:33.380 also with the environment itself, because in the final analysis, you know, the latest report

01:02:40.880 I've read is we're headed toward the end of the century with a planet that may not be hospitable,

01:02:48.340 let alone inhabitable.

01:02:49.720 So we have opportunities to turn things around and that applies to each and every one of us

01:02:56.280 in our own, in our own way.

01:02:58.220 I know you, Patrick, are doing what you can to help people get to a position of having

01:03:05.480 financial security so that if that's what they need in order to turn around and look

01:03:10.880 at the planet and treat it better, all more power to them.

01:03:14.940 Yeah, you know, I, I, uh, I appreciate that from your perspective.

01:03:21.660 I mean, it sounded like you may be running for Senate or, or Congress office here.

01:03:26.540 So can you imagine we get a 2024 astrologist running for, you know, office.

01:03:33.560 My name is Ray Couture.

01:03:35.060 I endorse this message and, uh, uh, I'm going to lead, uh, the cancer of a nation July 4th

01:03:42.900 of July, 1776, uh, uh, you know, it, it would be a very interesting campaign.

01:03:48.580 If you ever decided to run, I'd love to interview.

01:03:50.540 If you wanted to run, this will be the place we'd introduce it to the world.

01:03:55.180 I wouldn't be the first astrologer who did that.

01:03:57.420 We had George Washington and, and, uh, Thomas Jefferson.

01:04:00.680 George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were astrologists?

01:04:03.800 Yeah, they were very deep into astrology.

01:04:05.860 They were deep into all kinds of, uh, philosophical, uh, reformation that was going on at the time.

01:04:12.640 Um, and, and, uh, you know, uh, the, the, the, the system of government was based upon astrological

01:04:20.600 observations.

01:04:21.700 The whole, uh, use of the eagle as the animal was also because of the scorpionic nature that

01:04:27.800 the eagle represents.

01:04:28.900 And the fact that elections in this country are on the second, uh, Tuesday or the first

01:04:35.340 Tuesday of November means that it's a Scorpio time and it's time to eliminate the old and

01:04:42.420 bring in the new.

01:04:44.240 And so that's why there's, and the 20th of January as the inauguration day is the day that

01:04:50.980 the sun goes out of Capricorn and Aquarius.

01:04:54.140 So it's a, a day of fruition.

01:04:57.460 Yeah.

01:04:58.320 It's all astrological.

01:05:00.640 We should sit for a couple hours and we can go through all of that.

01:05:05.060 Um, you can, you, you, you know, yeah.

01:05:08.680 Can you continue with that?

01:05:10.040 What, what else in the way America was founded on has to do with Zodiac?

01:05:13.080 Cause that's a whole different thing that we didn't talk about at the beginning.

01:05:17.300 Well, no, I thought probably you might do that.

01:05:19.320 I didn't know you were going to do this statistic thing, but, um, uh, yeah, there, there,

01:05:24.520 there's the.

01:05:25.700 So far, so far you said the following, you said first Tuesday, November 3rd, uh, Scorpio.

01:05:32.680 Okay.

01:05:33.080 Because it's the old and the new, you said January 20th inauguration because Capricorn

01:05:39.240 to Aquarius, right.

01:05:41.120 And then you said, uh, what was the other one?

01:05:43.540 You said, you said another date, um, that you gave, uh, which, which one was it?

01:05:49.360 Did you give two of them only?

01:05:50.880 Well, I get, yeah.

01:05:51.460 I only gave those two.

01:05:52.920 Um, but, uh, uh, the, the idea of the, the structure of the government, you know, uh, you

01:06:00.180 have, uh, two houses, you have the Senate and the house of representatives, right?

01:06:05.240 Uh, that was a compromise, uh, but it's Gemini.

01:06:08.920 It's like taking the concept of Gemini communication, uh, between, uh, the lower classes, the house

01:06:18.140 of representatives and the upper class, the senators.

01:06:21.740 And the reason for class differentiation there is because, uh, was, um, taking the house of

01:06:28.620 lords and the house of commons in Britain and bringing them into a new dimension where the

01:06:37.700 house of representatives and the Senate to signify the idea of communication between classes that

01:06:47.880 would determine the form and shape of the government.

01:06:50.380 And so the, the, the astrological idea, uh, uh, behind the, um, presidency of, of, of the

01:07:01.540 country, uh, is out of a, uh, long time, long-term 30 year relationship that the, um, colonists

01:07:11.180 had with the Iroquois Indians, the Iroquois Indian, um, group, um, had a, a, a democratic

01:07:20.140 set up.

01:07:22.260 And so, uh, Franklin, uh, I think it was, and Jefferson talked to them along with, with,

01:07:29.420 uh, Washington about how, how, how we should set up our government and constitution and they

01:07:36.840 said, well, um, you, you need to have, um, your chief chosen by a council of elders.

01:07:45.940 So that became, you know, the, the, the, the Congress.

01:07:51.340 I mean, this is, this is fascinating stuff.

01:07:53.740 Like I said, we, we need, we need more time together.

01:07:56.600 Dinner on me.

01:07:57.800 Uh, somehow we figure out to make this happen.

01:08:00.060 And, uh, once this, uh, craziness goes away, uh, we need more than an hour together here.

01:08:05.800 I really enjoyed this.

01:08:06.980 Ray, where can people find you?

01:08:08.820 If they want to find you, what's the best place for people to find you?

01:08:11.620 Best place?

01:08:12.260 Uh, you can go to astrological perspectives on, on the internet, www, you know, all of that.

01:08:19.080 Yep.

01:08:19.300 We put that link below.

01:08:20.640 It's .net, not .com.

01:08:22.640 .net.

01:08:23.540 .com wasn't available.

01:08:25.400 Uh, that's probably the easiest way.

01:08:27.420 I also have an email, if you can, it would be astro for astrology, astro ray at gmail.

01:08:36.440 Easy.

01:08:37.020 We're going to put both of those below for people to find you.

01:08:39.800 If they have any questions, uh, a brace for impact.

01:08:43.300 You're about to get some emails, uh, astro ray at gmail.com.

01:08:48.800 Ray, thank you so much for your time.

01:08:50.680 I really enjoyed it.

01:08:51.940 Patrick.

01:08:52.420 It's been my pleasure.

01:08:53.760 I really enjoy hanging out with you like this.

01:08:55.940 It's been great.

01:08:56.460 Likewise.

01:08:57.780 Take care.

01:08:58.240 Bye-bye.

01:08:58.740 So did he get you right?

01:09:00.840 Meaning your sign, whatever your sign is, did he get you right?

01:09:03.360 Pisces, Capricorn, cancer, whatever it may be.

01:09:05.960 And do you believe in Zodiac signs?

01:09:09.100 Stats say one third of America believes in it.

01:09:11.120 Do you?

01:09:12.300 Uh, and, uh, thoughts, comment below.

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01:09:25.080 If you've never watched my interview with Ron White, click over here to watch my interview

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01:09:29.900 Thanks for watching, everybody.

01:09:30.740 Take care.

01:09:31.220 Bye-bye.

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