Valuetainment - June 01, 2026


“Audit Fort Knox” – Ex‑CIA Operative BUSTED In $40M Gold Heist Plot


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In this episode, we have a special guest on the show, Vinny Perone. Vinny is a former CIA officer who has been in the intelligence community for over 20 years and has been involved in some of the biggest scandals in the agency s history.

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00:01:00.000 How do you find $40 million of gold, 303 bars of gold, I believe they're 2.2 pounds, 35 Rolexes, okay, $2 million of cash.
00:01:13.320 And this is not a regular CIA officer.
00:01:15.040 This is a senior CIA officer that has to go through background check, claimed he went to Clemson University.
00:01:21.220 Clemson's like, we don't have this guy's name.
00:01:22.920 Claimed he went to Politech University.
00:01:25.380 They don't have his name.
00:01:26.460 Claimed he was a Navy pilot.
00:01:27.780 He was a Navy reservist, but he was never a pilot.
00:01:31.340 All these claims, claim, claim.
00:01:33.340 How does the CIA able to check?
00:01:36.160 There was a girl in the story that says, I was taking $75 from my dad and my mom that were helping me out.
00:01:42.540 The CIA comes and tells me where's the $75 coming from.
00:01:45.540 Says eventually I have to report the fact that it's coming from my mommy and my dad's bank account.
00:01:49.460 They said, prove it. 0.80
00:01:50.420 The girl had to show.
00:01:51.500 So how is it that for $75 she got away, but the other guy, $40 million sitting?
00:01:55.880 and he says, I did it because I needed it for negotiation
00:01:58.580 and some things that I'm going with, right?
00:02:00.960 And what's his name, Rod?
00:02:02.320 David Roth.
00:02:03.020 David Rush.
00:02:04.720 David Rush, which is at least a good name.
00:02:07.220 You've got to give credit.
00:02:07.800 He's got a good name, strong name.
00:02:09.520 So, Vinny, does this story inspire you to want to be a CIA officer?
00:02:13.060 Let me explain something.
00:02:13.880 For a second, I was like, wait a minute.
00:02:15.440 This guy has to be a cartel boss.
00:02:17.220 This is Netflix.
00:02:18.100 This is a documentary.
00:02:19.340 And I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
00:02:20.560 But, no, this is somebody tied to the intelligence community.
00:02:24.760 300, what did you say?
00:02:25.880 303 gold bars that's not normal corruption that's james bond villain corruption and then you turn
00:02:32.660 on cnn and now former intel people are basically admitting that the system can fail polygraphs can
00:02:38.100 fail liars can beat the system background checks fail oversight collapses so what are americans
00:02:44.460 supposed to trust at this point pat every is it just me guys or is it every single day another
00:02:50.280 story with fraud minnesota government all these people getting arrested insider influence peddling
00:02:56.980 missing money and it's like what the hell is actually going on and the worst part is regular
00:03:01.520 people like us that pay our taxes that follow the rules you said the girl had a 75 thing do you
00:03:06.400 remember was it two years ago tommy they were trying to do the any venmo payment over 600
00:03:11.780 you were going to get audited by the by by the irs yeah the banks already get a notice if you
00:03:16.500 do like more than ten thousand dollars did you sell a car did you sell artwork got to pick out
00:03:20.420 a form and they wanted to go down to 600 for venmo they want to track everything being spent
00:03:24.580 yeah and then i know doge had its moment for a little bit but something has to be done we're in
00:03:30.040 debt and the debt clock keeps going we have to stop when was this guy hired he was hired in 0809
00:03:35.260 rob right i think so who was the director of ci in 0809 who was the director of ci 0809 2008 is
00:03:41.380 what that's before pompeo it was let's see who it is director of cia oh hayden hayden and leon
00:03:47.880 panetta so can you type in who hired him who hired this guy hayden was w let's look it up and i think
00:03:55.340 panetta became no not who hired george bush rap who hired uh you put who hired george but we hired
00:04:01.400 george bush who hired the cia the people the people hired george tourists the tourists so
00:04:05.760 imagine like story comes at us
00:04:09.760 like a girl who was having a relationship
00:04:11.220 if it's after February of 09
00:04:13.840 that's Obama's administration
00:04:15.200 after applying three separate times
00:04:17.740 he successfully passed the agencies hiring
00:04:19.300 a background check process
00:04:20.880 it's not a big story
00:04:22.980 it is something that the audience needs to
00:04:24.300 you know what it gets me to go think about
00:04:25.740 is the gold really at Fort Knox
00:04:28.020 do we really have the gold in Fort Knox
00:04:31.220 I know Elon said let's get in there
00:04:33.140 like a year ago or something like that
00:04:34.520 I know the president said he wants to get in there.
00:04:36.160 I know he talked about it, I think, three or four weeks ago.
00:04:38.620 But why don't you get in there with the camera and have people pick up the gold?
00:04:42.740 Let's see what's going on.
00:04:44.180 Where do you get this $40 million worth of gold?
00:04:47.560 Tom, your thoughts on this story.
00:04:49.000 Well, first of all, I agree with the point on Fort Knox, and I'll underline it this way.
00:04:52.680 This is not the Kennedy assassination in a secret file that we don't want everybody to see.
00:04:57.120 This is not Martin Luther King.
00:04:58.660 Did James Earl Ray really leave the gun there?
00:05:00.900 This is not any of those conspiracy things.
00:05:02.880 Area 51 and the alleged, you know, unbelievable, you know, quasi-aluminum metal that we found out there in the middle of the desert.
00:05:10.680 Isn't any of that?
00:05:11.960 Walk into what is supposed to be the repository of the nation's gold, open the central vaults, and count it.
00:05:21.460 Yeah.
00:05:21.860 And lift it up and put it on a scale.
00:05:23.680 Is this, I mean, what is this?
00:05:26.200 To me, Pat, that's point two.
00:05:28.340 Point one is, you know how many of these CIA guys are out there going rogue?
00:05:32.240 I mean, you know, Hollywood picks up on it and does things, but I remember back when I had a publisher, I talked to two researchers that researched on the CIA, which also was called Company Men, and they were looking back at, like, Michener.
00:05:47.120 There's a great author named Michener who wrote these spy novels, and they said there was an unbelievable amount of correct framework that were in these novels of that's the way it works.
00:05:57.460 and the stories of what's called company men oh that's who do you work for i work for the company
00:06:03.200 and internationally that's slang for oh yeah i'm a spook right you know and in the clear and
00:06:09.760 present danger you know harrison ford takes out a business card and says do you take a company
00:06:14.500 check and it said cia so that's hollywood sensationalizing it but the truth was there
00:06:20.120 has been money in gold that's been given by the cia to foreign informants to people all the time
00:06:26.260 Remember, you know what gold was, Vinny?
00:06:28.880 The original Bitcoin.
00:06:31.280 Yeah.
00:06:31.720 Untraceable currency.
00:06:33.180 Melt it.
00:06:34.180 Make it into other.
00:06:35.200 That's right.
00:06:35.860 Melt it.
00:06:36.540 Make it into something else. 1.00
00:06:37.840 No, now these are South American. 1.00
00:06:38.920 It's hard to travel with. 1.00
00:06:40.140 It's hard to travel with.
00:06:41.140 What if I'm a rapper, though?
00:06:42.660 But Pat, once you melt it and then turn it into, make it look like cougar rounds from South Africa,
00:06:49.320 you could do anything with the gold as long as you get it.
00:06:52.240 I want to know if the gold is for Fort Knox.
00:06:53.740 And it does not surprise me that a guy like this, coming from the land of spooks, that we're doing this sort of thing over and over again, money going back and forth, arms going back and forth.
00:07:05.060 What do we think the Iran-Contra arms scandal was about? 0.71
00:07:08.040 You get the coke.
00:07:09.040 They get the guns.
00:07:10.320 We get the money.
00:07:11.160 These people get.
00:07:12.180 Everybody's happy.
00:07:13.340 Now, this guy shows up.
00:07:14.500 He's been in the middle of this.
00:07:16.560 I believe that he was in the middle of this.
00:07:18.720 But what now, right?
00:07:19.540 Adam.
00:07:20.500 I love this story, man.
00:07:21.700 I got to tell you.
00:07:22.300 You know what it reminds me of?
00:07:23.740 It reminds me of the movie Catch Me If You Can with Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:07:27.820 Frank Abagnale.
00:07:28.380 Frank Abagnale.
00:07:29.940 Yep, Abagnale.
00:07:31.120 Abagnale.
00:07:31.600 I said it correctly.
00:07:32.660 I love that movie.
00:07:34.020 It's one of my favorite movies.
00:07:34.940 You know, I don't watch movies.
00:07:35.760 But Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hanks.
00:07:38.300 By the way, he was like a high school kid.
00:07:39.680 That's why they couldn't track him.
00:07:40.940 He was using names that he learned in a comic book.
00:07:43.720 But every story here, this guy, how he acquired all this money and all these gold bars and these luxury watches,
00:07:50.760 he faked his credentials just like catch me if you can he lied about his military record he has
00:07:56.920 said that he attended elite pilot training programs if you remember the movie catch if you can he was
00:08:02.560 basically a fake pilot so what's my point with all this because i know everybody wants to know
00:08:06.840 what's my point let's use everything he learned on defrauding everything as a source for good
00:08:13.300 to catch more criminals because if you remember what frank abagnale ended up doing working for
00:08:18.140 He ended up working for, I believe, the FBI.
00:08:21.060 So let's take this guy and give him a shout-out.
00:08:23.780 Rush.
00:08:24.740 What's his name?
00:08:25.600 David.
00:08:26.040 David Rush.
00:08:27.200 Let's make him the new Frank Abagnale.
00:08:29.200 Clearly, he's good at his job in defrauding people.
00:08:32.300 He's looking to the side.
00:08:33.340 He's looking at his gold they're taking out of the room.
00:08:35.480 The last thing I'll tell you about this guy is I respect the fact that he saved that money.
00:08:40.440 He didn't blow it on all sorts of crazy people.
00:08:42.720 Adam, think about it.
00:08:43.460 This is one instance.
00:08:44.440 Imagine all the other guys that are CIA that have all this money
00:08:47.780 and they're using it for negotiation.
00:08:49.920 That pisses me off.
00:08:51.480 By the way, the money, do you know how much we have at Fort Knox?
00:08:54.620 Can you pull up how much do we have at Fort Knox, Rob?
00:08:56.920 Gold or cash?
00:08:58.320 No, no, the actual gold that we have at Fort Knox.
00:09:01.540 $692 billion of gold if priced at $4,700.
00:09:07.340 Okay, what does it say for you?
00:09:09.260 No, no, no, you don't have the right number.
00:09:10.840 Book value is not $6.22 billion, Rob.
00:09:12.660 It's way more than $6.22 billion.
00:09:15.140 No, that's cash.
00:09:16.880 How much is the gold in Fort Knox?
00:09:18.840 There you go.
00:09:19.320 $700 billion, yeah.
00:09:20.700 All right, almost a go.
00:09:21.180 $700 billion is what they have.
00:09:23.300 They booked it at that number in 73.
00:09:25.600 So it's gone from $6.22 to $700 billion.
00:09:28.420 But people just want to see it.
00:09:29.380 Let's just open it up and see it.
00:09:30.340 That's a quick question.
00:09:31.100 That's the point.
00:09:31.720 Just open it up.
00:09:32.380 Open it up and see it.
00:09:33.160 What is the drama with Fort Knox?
00:09:34.780 Why can't they open it?
00:09:35.620 Because there is a lot.
00:09:36.820 By the way, do you know how many people in the history of it have actually visited?
00:09:39.600 Do you know how many people?
00:09:39.940 No, I don't know.
00:09:40.420 I want to understand this.
00:09:41.440 You really don't know this?
00:09:42.280 Yeah, please.
00:09:42.780 Rob, pull up how many presidents have actually visited Fort Knox.
00:09:46.260 One of them didn't even get to see it.
00:09:48.660 They just visited the building.
00:09:50.120 I think historically, I don't know if any president has been inside of Fort Knox.
00:09:54.700 Okay, so the controversy is why hasn't any president visited Fort Knox?
00:10:00.440 Right.
00:10:01.520 That's where a lot of people are wondering.
00:10:03.180 Yeah, FDR, what does it say?
00:10:05.080 Well, that's not visited and inspected the gold depository in 1943,
00:10:09.920 and he visited a one and only time, the gold vault.
00:10:13.240 Truman visited it, but watch this.
00:10:15.100 Official records are inclusive, inconclusive.
00:10:17.860 Some historians' local accounts mention a possible visit
00:10:20.920 while the U.S. Mint had stated Roosevelt is the only president to have known
00:10:24.460 that signed a depository visitor log.
00:10:26.620 So presidents have never visited.
00:10:28.160 Why not? People want to know. Why not?
00:10:30.300 Why are you not going there? What's the big deal?
00:10:32.420 And here's a president when he was asked about it three weeks ago.
00:10:35.400 Go ahead, Rob.
00:10:36.300 What happened to the audit of Fort Knox?
00:10:40.760 Which one are you talking about?
00:10:42.220 There was, I think when you first got into office,
00:10:44.360 you and Elon Musk talked about auditing the gold
00:10:46.620 and make sure it's there.
00:10:47.420 Well, we wanted to go knock on the door, Fort Knox,
00:10:49.160 very thick door, and to see whether or not
00:10:51.640 we have any gold in there, you know,
00:10:53.300 because we'll take a look at it.
00:10:55.260 It's a very interesting question, yeah?
00:10:57.100 We played with that.
00:10:59.140 I wonder if they left the gold in Fort Knox
00:11:01.480 because they steal a lot.
00:11:02.640 Are you kidding me?
00:11:03.180 No need to really do that, though?
00:11:04.320 What is Truman known for?
00:11:06.300 Dropping what?
00:11:08.100 Bomb?
00:11:08.540 Truman is known for the nuclear bomb, right?
00:11:11.000 Okay, what is FDR known for?
00:11:13.100 You know, depression, you know, all the social security programs,
00:11:17.020 all the entitlement programs.
00:11:19.080 Yeah, the New Deal.
00:11:20.380 And you mean to tell me since then nobody has visited?
00:11:23.040 A little weird.
00:11:23.520 Let's go to the next story.
00:11:24.620 He goes, let's see if any gold is even in there.
00:11:27.360 What does that even mean?
00:11:28.180 That's the conversation.
00:11:29.460 That's why people are saying what they're saying about this.
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00:13:31.340 And then we've got
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00:13:36.940 Who is this?
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00:13:38.940 Colombia.
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00:13:53.620 If you're watching this, you want to get the shirt combination.
00:13:56.420 This is the U.S. hat that we have with the U.S. flag on the lid,
00:14:01.900 with the soccer ball inside of it.
00:14:03.720 These things look absolutely insane.
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00:14:19.780 Vinny, I don't know if I gave it to you or not.
00:14:21.240 No, I don't have that.
00:14:21.920 Do you have the Iran hat?
00:14:22.980 Is it this one here?
00:14:25.000 I don't know which one it is.
00:14:26.000 One of these guys that we have here. 0.98
00:14:27.540 It looks ridiculous. 0.98
00:14:29.980 There you go. 0.99
00:14:30.580 Look at this.
00:14:31.780 On the bottom of the lid right there.
00:14:33.020 I love the fact that you have it. 1.00
00:14:35.140 Iran's, it's only 50 of them. 1.00
00:14:36.760 So first come, first serve. 0.82
00:14:37.740 If somebody buys 50, it's literally going to say sold out.
00:14:40.820 And then you have all the other countries and U.S.
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00:14:45.440 if you want to go a little bit lower, it'll go to click on the Argentina one,
00:14:49.580 view all, go all the way to the top, Rob.
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