Valuetainment - August 23, 2025


“Back to the BULLSH#T” - NFL Faces Fan FURY Over Male Cheerleaders & End Racism Campaign


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Length

8 minutes

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Word count

1,621

Sentence count

186

Harmful content

Misogyny

13

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Toxicity

21

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Hate speech

2

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The NFL is going back to having male cheerleaders in the NFL. What does that have to do with racism? Is this a good or bad thing? And should the NFL mandate a ban on male cheerleader uniforms?

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00:00:00.000 NFL is going back to playing games again. 0.98
00:00:01.740 You got freaking male cheerleaders. 0.92
00:00:03.460 You really think the product wants to see male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:00:06.660 In what city?
00:00:07.840 In Minnesota?
00:00:09.400 You really think we want to go in there and see male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:00:13.020 Honestly? 0.99
00:00:13.800 Like, you think we're going to a game because I want to see this guy shake his butt? 0.97
00:00:16.720 You think I'm like, oh, my God, I was so fantastic. 0.91
00:00:19.520 Let me buy 40 other tickets and take my kids to the flipping game.
00:00:22.780 And then they still have those three things, love and all these things you got to choose at the end zone.
00:00:27.560 And racism. 1.00
00:00:28.380 It's just dumb. 1.00
00:00:29.300 Every time you think they're making some kind of progress, they go back to this bullshit of bringing it back up and putting back into the American faces. 1.00
00:00:37.440 It's so disappointing. 1.00
00:00:39.120 Stop playing this flipping game.
00:00:40.840 When Colin Kaepernick's deal happened in 2017, you know what's the first question I was asking is, did Roger Godel meet with the leadership team fast?
00:00:49.880 No, they didn't.
00:00:50.460 What happened? 1.00
00:00:50.920 NFL went to a shit show and lost a bunch of customers. 1.00
00:00:54.100 And now they have this thing going on right now. 0.99
00:00:56.080 But NFL is a number one product in America, but it's a number seven product worldwide.
00:01:00.400 So if you want to improve and you know who your clientele is, you want me to go look at male cheerleaders? 0.56
00:01:08.660 Seriously?
00:01:09.500 We're talking about male cheerleaders, Roger.
00:01:11.220 You think that's what we want to do?
00:01:13.220 I don't know.
00:01:14.060 And by the way, it may be left to owners.
00:01:16.220 So maybe the onus is not on Roger Godel for the owners choose to have male cheerleaders.
00:01:22.220 Okay.
00:01:22.780 So what percentage of NFL teams have male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:01:25.980 Can we figure this thing out?
00:01:27.160 And I'm not even talking about the holders.
00:01:29.360 Because the holders are big boys.
00:01:30.920 I'm talking about...
00:01:31.940 I would say seven or eight.
00:01:33.960 Patriots.
00:01:36.380 What percentage?
00:01:37.460 Oh, percentage.
00:01:38.160 Have one male cheerleader? 0.85
00:01:39.360 No, there's a couple of them.
00:01:40.380 12.
00:01:41.080 Ravens.
00:01:42.160 12 now have male cheerleaders. 1.00
00:01:43.500 Yeah, but I want to know what these cheerleaders look like. 1.00
00:01:45.500 Are they holding the pom-poms?
00:01:46.840 Yes.
00:01:47.660 No, no.
00:01:48.100 That's one.
00:01:48.860 Here's the thing.
00:01:49.660 So this, put it on the teams.
00:01:52.460 Can you ask the question, in whose discretion is it, can the NFL...
00:01:58.700 Can the NFL...
00:02:00.700 Force?
00:02:02.180 No.
00:02:04.360 Mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheerleaders.
00:02:08.820 Can the NFL mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:02:14.480 Let's just...
00:02:14.780 Great question.
00:02:15.140 Break the NFL.
00:02:16.160 League authority with their...
00:02:17.280 The NFL is a private league.
00:02:18.880 The team owners operate as franchises.
00:02:20.700 The league does not have authority to impose uniform rules.
00:02:23.120 Okay.
00:02:23.900 In theory, NFL could adopt a rule requiring all cheerleader squads to follow certain guidelines.
00:02:28.100 However, employment practices, including cheerleading, hiring, are landed at the team level, not centrally.
00:02:33.880 Cheerleaders are generally hired by teams management, not by the league.
00:02:36.640 Like, a blanket ban on male cheerleaders would likely face legal challenges. 0.99
00:02:40.980 Okay.
00:02:41.200 That's exactly where I thought it was going to go.
00:02:43.160 So, okay.
00:02:43.620 I understand that part that if you do that.
00:02:45.620 Now, but for you to put the other stuff, which is what?
00:02:48.740 End racism.
00:02:49.900 Start with love.
00:02:50.640 Can you...
00:02:50.960 What were the phrases, Rob, that you're doing?
00:02:52.400 And they have to...
00:02:53.100 By the way, they have to pick one.
00:02:54.840 That's...
00:02:55.360 And by the way, I think we need to be careful with this.
00:02:57.740 Male cheerleaders sometimes means the big strong guy that's helping to make the pyramid. 1.00
00:03:02.500 I want to know if it's trans cheerleaders. 0.96
00:03:04.640 Let's ask how many NFL teams have trans...
00:03:06.700 The one trans guy that the Titans had just quit.
00:03:08.280 So, we have to put end racism, stop, pay, choose, love, inspire, change.
00:03:11.400 It takes all of us.
00:03:12.240 Change what?
00:03:13.020 Change what?
00:03:13.680 Give me a flip and break. 0.90
00:03:14.640 Like, I was done watching the NBA product, but playoffs.
00:03:17.860 I was done.
00:03:19.380 I haven't rooted for the Lakers since the day they signed LeBron.
00:03:22.420 You want to bring this back?
00:03:24.340 Seriously?
00:03:25.400 You want to bring this back?
00:03:26.700 What end racism, bro?
00:03:28.920 What?
00:03:30.140 What end racism?
00:03:31.200 You're talking about in the 1800s, we looked at data the other day, only 1.5% of people
00:03:35.880 were slave owners.
00:03:37.160 White people were slave owners and was mostly in the South. 0.95
00:03:39.220 That was mostly Democrats.
00:03:40.660 And I want to put it on our face that we have to end racism?
00:03:43.160 Oh, my God. 1.00
00:03:44.180 Let me just watch the damn game. 1.00
00:03:46.960 Touchdown. 1.00
00:03:48.200 Field goal.
00:03:49.660 Interception.
00:03:50.700 Wiped out.
00:03:51.820 Big hit.
00:03:53.140 Great catch.
00:03:54.340 End racism.
00:03:55.780 CT.
00:03:56.080 Give me a break.
00:03:58.000 Give me a flipping break, dude. 1.00
00:04:00.820 Holy shit. 1.00
00:04:01.920 Like, give me a break, Roger. 1.00
00:04:04.480 You're getting this close to bringing the product back and you put this shit on our face again? 1.00
00:04:11.520 Oh, my goodness. 1.00
00:04:12.820 Like, this is so annoying.
00:04:14.480 What else needs to happen for you to see this?
00:04:16.480 Why do you think people...
00:04:17.960 Anyways, man.
00:04:18.660 This is just annoying.
00:04:19.800 I'm so glad I'm not even...
00:04:22.560 You okay, pal?
00:04:23.380 I'm not...
00:04:23.820 It's annoying because you almost had it.
00:04:25.880 What are you doing?
00:04:26.640 Why go back?
00:04:27.340 What are you doing?
00:04:28.420 It's 2025.
00:04:30.200 Did you not see who won the presidency?
00:04:32.580 What do you mean end racism?
00:04:37.340 Ah, double done.
00:04:38.600 The woke agenda.
00:04:39.340 Can I just say one thing about Minnesota?
00:04:40.860 Because, you know, my mom's from Minnesota.
00:04:42.120 I got a love from Minnesota.
00:04:43.180 What the hell is going on in Minnesota these days?
00:04:45.420 You know, the slogan for Minnesota is Minnesota nice.
00:04:48.820 Everyone's nice in Minnesota.
00:04:49.840 Oh, hey, how you doing?
00:04:50.760 And, well, there was a famous book, what?
00:04:53.840 No More Mr. Nice Guy, Pat.
00:04:55.660 Nice Guys Finish Last.
00:04:57.020 Here are a couple things that I just...
00:04:58.260 Off the top of my head.
00:04:59.100 Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota.
00:05:00.880 Tampon Tim.
00:05:01.540 Tim Walls.
00:05:02.440 Target.
00:05:02.940 They're headquartered in Minnesota.
00:05:04.900 We know what's going on there.
00:05:05.800 George Floyd.
00:05:06.800 We saw what happened with that.
00:05:08.160 Ilhan Omar, the squad.
00:05:09.460 Leader of the squad.
00:05:10.440 Doing her thing.
00:05:11.400 Little Mogadishu.
00:05:12.240 We see what's going on there.
00:05:12.960 Our mayor, Jacob Frye, out there speaking Somalian to basically pander to voters.
00:05:18.920 This dude, whoever this guy is right now, if you could show a picture of this guy, male
00:05:22.300 chillers.
00:05:23.180 Something's going on in the waters of Minnesota, and it ain't America. 0.92
00:05:28.140 It's Somalia.
00:05:29.760 This goes back a long time.
00:05:31.220 Walter Mondale was out there, and it's the only state that Reagan didn't win.
00:05:35.960 And then they asked Ronald Reagan, what do you want for your birthday?
00:05:38.180 And he said, how about Minnesota?
00:05:39.700 And that would have been a clean sweep first time in history.
00:05:42.640 But go back to there.
00:05:43.580 Go back to George Montgomery.
00:05:44.600 You go back, and Minnesota has been this outpost of weirdness going back 50 years.
00:05:52.060 Yeah.
00:05:52.460 All right, let's transition away from.
00:05:54.500 No, not transition.
00:05:55.880 Let's move on to the next story, Pat.
00:05:58.440 Because you won't have to be honest.
00:05:59.520 Move on to the next story.
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