Valuetainment - August 23, 2025


“Back to the BULLSH#T” - NFL Faces Fan FURY Over Male Cheerleaders & End Racism Campaign


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Length

8 minutes

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198.61139

Word count

1,621

Sentence count

186

Harmful content

Misogyny

13

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Hate speech

2

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The NFL is going back to having male cheerleaders in the NFL. What does that have to do with racism? Is this a good or bad thing? And should the NFL mandate a ban on male cheerleader uniforms?

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00:00:00.000 NFL is going back to playing games again.
00:00:01.740 You got freaking male cheerleaders. 0.92
00:00:03.460 You really think the product wants to see male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:00:06.660 In what city?
00:00:07.840 In Minnesota?
00:00:09.400 You really think we want to go in there and see male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:00:13.020 Honestly?
00:00:13.800 Like, you think we're going to a game because I want to see this guy shake his butt?
00:00:16.720 You think I'm like, oh, my God, I was so fantastic.
00:00:19.520 Let me buy 40 other tickets and take my kids to the flipping game.
00:00:22.780 And then they still have those three things, love and all these things you got to choose at the end zone.
00:00:27.560 And racism.
00:00:28.380 It's just dumb.
00:00:29.300 Every time you think they're making some kind of progress, they go back to this bullshit of bringing it back up and putting back into the American faces.
00:00:37.440 It's so disappointing.
00:00:39.120 Stop playing this flipping game.
00:00:40.840 When Colin Kaepernick's deal happened in 2017, you know what's the first question I was asking is, did Roger Godel meet with the leadership team fast?
00:00:49.880 No, they didn't.
00:00:50.460 What happened?
00:00:50.920 NFL went to a shit show and lost a bunch of customers.
00:00:54.100 And now they have this thing going on right now.
00:00:56.080 But NFL is a number one product in America, but it's a number seven product worldwide.
00:01:00.400 So if you want to improve and you know who your clientele is, you want me to go look at male cheerleaders? 0.56
00:01:08.660 Seriously?
00:01:09.500 We're talking about male cheerleaders, Roger.
00:01:11.220 You think that's what we want to do?
00:01:13.220 I don't know.
00:01:14.060 And by the way, it may be left to owners.
00:01:16.220 So maybe the onus is not on Roger Godel for the owners choose to have male cheerleaders.
00:01:22.220 Okay.
00:01:22.780 So what percentage of NFL teams have male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:01:25.980 Can we figure this thing out?
00:01:27.160 And I'm not even talking about the holders.
00:01:29.360 Because the holders are big boys.
00:01:30.920 I'm talking about...
00:01:31.940 I would say seven or eight.
00:01:33.960 Patriots.
00:01:36.380 What percentage?
00:01:37.460 Oh, percentage.
00:01:38.160 Have one male cheerleader? 0.85
00:01:39.360 No, there's a couple of them.
00:01:40.380 12.
00:01:41.080 Ravens.
00:01:42.160 12 now have male cheerleaders. 1.00
00:01:43.500 Yeah, but I want to know what these cheerleaders look like. 1.00
00:01:45.500 Are they holding the pom-poms?
00:01:46.840 Yes.
00:01:47.660 No, no.
00:01:48.100 That's one.
00:01:48.860 Here's the thing.
00:01:49.660 So this, put it on the teams.
00:01:52.460 Can you ask the question, in whose discretion is it, can the NFL...
00:01:58.700 Can the NFL...
00:02:00.700 Force?
00:02:02.180 No.
00:02:04.360 Mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheerleaders.
00:02:08.820 Can the NFL mandate that NFL owners can't have male cheerleaders? 1.00
00:02:14.480 Let's just...
00:02:14.780 Great question.
00:02:15.140 Break the NFL.
00:02:16.160 League authority with their...
00:02:17.280 The NFL is a private league.
00:02:18.880 The team owners operate as franchises.
00:02:20.700 The league does not have authority to impose uniform rules.
00:02:23.120 Okay.
00:02:23.900 In theory, NFL could adopt a rule requiring all cheerleader squads to follow certain guidelines.
00:02:28.100 However, employment practices, including cheerleading, hiring, are landed at the team level, not centrally.
00:02:33.880 Cheerleaders are generally hired by teams management, not by the league.
00:02:36.640 Like, a blanket ban on male cheerleaders would likely face legal challenges. 0.99
00:02:40.980 Okay.
00:02:41.200 That's exactly where I thought it was going to go.
00:02:43.160 So, okay.
00:02:43.620 I understand that part that if you do that.
00:02:45.620 Now, but for you to put the other stuff, which is what?
00:02:48.740 End racism.
00:02:49.900 Start with love.
00:02:50.640 Can you...
00:02:50.960 What were the phrases, Rob, that you're doing?
00:02:52.400 And they have to...
00:02:53.100 By the way, they have to pick one.
00:02:54.840 That's...
00:02:55.360 And by the way, I think we need to be careful with this.
00:02:57.740 Male cheerleaders sometimes means the big strong guy that's helping to make the pyramid. 1.00
00:03:02.500 I want to know if it's trans cheerleaders. 0.96
00:03:04.640 Let's ask how many NFL teams have trans...
00:03:06.700 The one trans guy that the Titans had just quit.
00:03:08.280 So, we have to put end racism, stop, pay, choose, love, inspire, change.
00:03:11.400 It takes all of us.
00:03:12.240 Change what?
00:03:13.020 Change what?
00:03:13.680 Give me a flip and break. 0.90
00:03:14.640 Like, I was done watching the NBA product, but playoffs.
00:03:17.860 I was done.
00:03:19.380 I haven't rooted for the Lakers since the day they signed LeBron.
00:03:22.420 You want to bring this back?
00:03:24.340 Seriously?
00:03:25.400 You want to bring this back?
00:03:26.700 What end racism, bro?
00:03:28.920 What?
00:03:30.140 What end racism?
00:03:31.200 You're talking about in the 1800s, we looked at data the other day, only 1.5% of people
00:03:35.880 were slave owners.
00:03:37.160 White people were slave owners and was mostly in the South. 0.95
00:03:39.220 That was mostly Democrats.
00:03:40.660 And I want to put it on our face that we have to end racism?
00:03:43.160 Oh, my God.
00:03:44.180 Let me just watch the damn game.
00:03:46.960 Touchdown.
00:03:48.200 Field goal.
00:03:49.660 Interception.
00:03:50.700 Wiped out.
00:03:51.820 Big hit.
00:03:53.140 Great catch.
00:03:54.340 End racism.
00:03:55.780 CT.
00:03:56.080 Give me a break.
00:03:58.000 Give me a flipping break, dude.
00:04:00.820 Holy shit.
00:04:01.920 Like, give me a break, Roger.
00:04:04.480 You're getting this close to bringing the product back and you put this shit on our face again?
00:04:11.520 Oh, my goodness.
00:04:12.820 Like, this is so annoying.
00:04:14.480 What else needs to happen for you to see this?
00:04:16.480 Why do you think people...
00:04:17.960 Anyways, man.
00:04:18.660 This is just annoying.
00:04:19.800 I'm so glad I'm not even...
00:04:22.560 You okay, pal?
00:04:23.380 I'm not...
00:04:23.820 It's annoying because you almost had it.
00:04:25.880 What are you doing?
00:04:26.640 Why go back?
00:04:27.340 What are you doing?
00:04:28.420 It's 2025.
00:04:30.200 Did you not see who won the presidency?
00:04:32.580 What do you mean end racism?
00:04:37.340 Ah, double done.
00:04:38.600 The woke agenda.
00:04:39.340 Can I just say one thing about Minnesota?
00:04:40.860 Because, you know, my mom's from Minnesota.
00:04:42.120 I got a love from Minnesota.
00:04:43.180 What the hell is going on in Minnesota these days?
00:04:45.420 You know, the slogan for Minnesota is Minnesota nice.
00:04:48.820 Everyone's nice in Minnesota.
00:04:49.840 Oh, hey, how you doing?
00:04:50.760 And, well, there was a famous book, what?
00:04:53.840 No More Mr. Nice Guy, Pat.
00:04:55.660 Nice Guys Finish Last.
00:04:57.020 Here are a couple things that I just...
00:04:58.260 Off the top of my head.
00:04:59.100 Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota.
00:05:00.880 Tampon Tim.
00:05:01.540 Tim Walls.
00:05:02.440 Target.
00:05:02.940 They're headquartered in Minnesota.
00:05:04.900 We know what's going on there.
00:05:05.800 George Floyd.
00:05:06.800 We saw what happened with that.
00:05:08.160 Ilhan Omar, the squad.
00:05:09.460 Leader of the squad.
00:05:10.440 Doing her thing.
00:05:11.400 Little Mogadishu.
00:05:12.240 We see what's going on there.
00:05:12.960 Our mayor, Jacob Frye, out there speaking Somalian to basically pander to voters.
00:05:18.920 This dude, whoever this guy is right now, if you could show a picture of this guy, male
00:05:22.300 chillers.
00:05:23.180 Something's going on in the waters of Minnesota, and it ain't America. 0.92
00:05:28.140 It's Somalia.
00:05:29.760 This goes back a long time.
00:05:31.220 Walter Mondale was out there, and it's the only state that Reagan didn't win.
00:05:35.960 And then they asked Ronald Reagan, what do you want for your birthday?
00:05:38.180 And he said, how about Minnesota?
00:05:39.700 And that would have been a clean sweep first time in history.
00:05:42.640 But go back to there.
00:05:43.580 Go back to George Montgomery.
00:05:44.600 You go back, and Minnesota has been this outpost of weirdness going back 50 years.
00:05:52.060 Yeah.
00:05:52.460 All right, let's transition away from.
00:05:54.500 No, not transition.
00:05:55.880 Let's move on to the next story, Pat.
00:05:58.440 Because you won't have to be honest.
00:05:59.520 Move on to the next story.
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