Valuetainment - December 31, 2025


＂Big Brother Is WATCHING You＂ - Airport DNA Collection TRIGGERS Privacy vs. Security Debate


Episode Stats


Length

18 minutes

Words per minute

189.69644

Word count

3,487

Sentence count

293

Harmful content

Misogyny

4

sentences flagged

Toxicity

5

sentences flagged

Hate speech

12

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this episode, we discuss the new law allowing government officials to collect DNA and fingerprints from non-citizens entering or leaving the United States. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Pat and Tom discuss their thoughts.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 But check this out, folks, of what they're doing with airports effective 1226.
00:00:05.340 Just a few days ago.
00:00:06.140 I don't want to stay on the story for too long, guys, so I may only go to one or two of you guys.
00:00:10.260 So new airport DNA law now is in effect at U.S. airports.
00:00:15.760 See how it could impact your holiday travel.
00:00:19.880 New DNA?
00:00:21.320 What?
00:00:21.900 What are they talking about, new DNA?
00:00:23.720 Watch this.
00:00:24.880 New strict customs laws have gone into effect, allowing government officials to request tourists' DNA in some cases.
00:00:34.060 Tourists' DNA in some cases.
00:00:37.460 The new biometric data collection started on December 26th, just ahead of the new year.
00:00:41.060 The new rule targets non-citizens entering or leaving the U.S. according to the government documents seen by Reuters.
00:00:47.060 Travelers will now be subjected to facial recognition photos, which is normal, at the airport to help match them
00:00:53.440 with existing records.
00:00:55.140 Those facial recognition pictures will be stored up to 75 years, according to the documents.
00:01:02.680 Under the new law, Department of Homeland Security officials may request additional biometric information,
00:01:07.900 including fingerprints or DNA from non-citizens.
00:01:11.320 The update security measures are meant to defer the filing of frivolous claims and provide operational consistency,
00:01:17.500 according to the U.S. government.
00:01:19.320 Travelers under 14 years old and those over 79 years old were exempt from these requirements.
00:01:26.360 Tom, how do you feel about this?
00:01:28.180 So I think what they're trying to do is get us comfortable with a lack of privacy through safety, on one hand.
00:01:36.580 On the other hand, when they say frivolous claims, I think they're talking about immigration.
00:01:40.900 The two articles that I went through, I was trying to find out what frivolous claim, what are you worried about?
00:01:47.200 Are these in airports, people filling out forms incorrectly, identifying them as visa holders versus tourists?
00:01:54.400 What do you mean claims?
00:01:55.860 And I couldn't find a straight answer to it, which was very concerning,
00:01:59.340 because if the government doesn't give you a straight answer,
00:02:01.620 it usually means that you can pretty much suspect what's there.
00:02:05.400 Now, what's on the good side?
00:02:06.860 What's on the good side is, okay, then if you want to keep all the biometrics on people
00:02:13.780 and then we collect all the biometrics, if we had done that at Eagle Pass,
00:02:18.260 well, now then you know who's here, who's not.
00:02:20.640 Guess what?
00:02:21.100 You could have voting integrity.
00:02:22.300 You could have a lot of things.
00:02:23.560 So I've got mixed emotions here because the government collecting data always makes me concerned
00:02:27.820 that any given time pad, if they don't like what I'm saying, click, they turn off Tom.
00:02:32.400 And now Tom can't drive a car.
00:02:36.780 Tom can't go through a toll booth.
00:02:38.420 All these things they can do, the bigger net that they make, one side of me worries about that.
00:02:43.700 The other side of me, maybe we just now have a way to really check who's coming and going
00:02:49.020 and make sure we know who's entering the country.
00:02:52.480 And maybe it puts us one step closer to elections with integrity
00:02:56.480 or knowing who should or shouldn't have benefits in Minnesota.
00:03:00.960 Because obviously we got to do, you don't need to do biometrics on an empty room in Minnesota.
00:03:05.660 I'm not talking about fraud.
00:03:06.660 I'm talking about somebody who's legitimately here on a visa.
00:03:09.720 Yeah.
00:03:10.640 Similar thing happened in right after 9-11 when two months later, in November of 2001,
00:03:17.360 they introduced to us TSA.
00:03:19.400 And before, if you think about before TSA, you would just walk up to the gate.
00:03:22.920 There was no TSA.
00:03:23.940 So do you think now, Tom, bring it to 2025, are you glad we have TSA?
00:03:30.960 Or do you wish we didn't have TSA and people walking through the electric, you know, the,
00:03:35.000 what do you call it, the, when they're checking to see if you have any guns?
00:03:39.720 Metal detectors.
00:03:40.620 Metal detector.
00:03:41.540 Are you thinking TSA was a good idea now or a bad idea?
00:03:46.960 There's two sides to TSA.
00:03:48.600 You can't say TSA unless you say Patriot Act.
00:03:51.280 And Patriot Act had a bunch of bad crap that happened and they were used for, they were
00:03:56.620 used for no knock, basically breaking and entering to come to do, to do arrest, no knock seizures,
00:04:04.240 no knock searches and things like that.
00:04:06.280 That was bad.
00:04:07.580 But is it good that we have everybody when in the, in the, so in a world where some people's
00:04:14.860 wardrobe includes suicide vests, is it good thing that we're checking to get on airplanes
00:04:20.000 where they could create sudden havoc?
00:04:22.460 Yes.
00:04:23.000 There was a good side to TSA, but it came with the Patriot Act, which we could talk about
00:04:27.300 for days about the negative things that were inside it.
00:04:30.820 Pat, Pat, Pat, I'm anti, I, anything that has to do with your DNA and them having any 0.97
00:04:36.920 of your swab or I'm anti all that 1000%.
00:04:41.140 Also, did you guys know this?
00:04:42.860 When you go to the airport and the TSA has that facial recognition, Pat, it's voluntary,
00:04:48.180 but every single person just lines up and you're giving them your face over and over and
00:04:52.820 over.
00:04:53.160 I'm, from what I've seen, I'm one of the only ones, cause I've been to the airport a bunch
00:04:56.860 of times I go, excuse me, I don't want that.
00:04:59.040 I don't want my face.
00:04:59.720 They go, Oh, okay.
00:05:00.700 Just come this way.
00:05:01.880 People are just willingly like sheep stepping up and any, and Tom, to the point where you
00:05:06.400 said, you know, if it's for voting and all that stuff, that should be, you know what?
00:05:10.400 The states, every state should be mandatory ID.
00:05:14.860 And the fact with the border situation is happening right now, that should be a whole separate
00:05:18.320 thing.
00:05:18.980 Anything with swab, with DNA, with facial recognition, I'm anti that time, because at the end of the
00:05:24.380 day, the goal that the government wants is for us to be China.
00:05:27.860 We're in China.
00:05:28.920 If you, if you break the law, they have your face, the bill in their eyes.
00:05:33.220 It comes right to your house.
00:05:34.940 That's the future.
00:05:36.020 They want us all locked down.
00:05:37.200 They want us all digital.
00:05:38.720 Vinny.
00:05:39.140 I don't think it's swabs.
00:05:40.140 Have you walked on an airplane where you just walk up and you, you go to show your boarding
00:05:44.560 process, scan it.
00:05:45.340 No, no, don't worry about it.
00:05:46.140 Just look at the iPad and you look there and it goes, and then you get on.
00:05:50.300 I went to Austria a year ago and we were getting on a, I forget the name of the air.
00:05:56.840 No, Austria air.
00:05:58.040 And we were getting on in Miami and there's just an iPad there.
00:06:01.320 And normally at the door, you always had to show passport, boarding pass, passport, boarding
00:06:05.240 pass, international flights.
00:06:06.800 We didn't.
00:06:07.520 And that told me, wow, is that my global entry data in there?
00:06:12.080 They just looked at my face and said, that's Tom Ellsworth.
00:06:14.800 This is your seat.
00:06:15.500 You're getting on.
00:06:16.440 And guess what?
00:06:16.960 It's another picture then from 2024 of Tom, because it said your picture being taken.
00:06:22.860 This is all the biometric things they're talking about.
00:06:25.240 Start with face.
00:06:26.120 I don't think they're talking about swabs, but to your point, you don't like the database.
00:06:30.340 I don't like the database.
00:06:31.340 Well, Pat, your story was DNA, wasn't it?
00:06:33.540 Taking DNA.
00:06:35.020 I'm at Tom.
00:06:36.040 And you're right.
00:06:36.560 Cause Tom, I just want people to know too.
00:06:38.300 It's all slowly, but surely they're making it comfortable, comfortable.
00:06:41.480 They just put that on there and it's voluntary.
00:06:43.780 But the fact that they have it, they're telling you, look inside the camera.
00:06:46.920 This is non-citizens coming in. 1.00
00:06:49.440 This was tourists.
00:06:50.960 I understand that, Pat.
00:06:52.460 I understand that, but still taking DNA because for 75 years, they have their DNA.
00:06:58.820 I don't trust it.
00:06:59.620 I don't trust government with any.
00:07:02.000 No, I'm not a fan of it at all.
00:07:03.720 Vinny, Vinny, you have to pay attention to what PB just said.
00:07:06.760 If you're not American citizen, then we should be surveilling everybody that comes in this country. 1.00
00:07:13.600 We just let how many, 10, maybe even 20 million people in the country. 0.96
00:07:18.260 And we don't know any of these mofos. 1.00
00:07:20.680 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0.55
00:07:22.040 That was on purpose.
00:07:23.080 That was on purpose.
00:07:24.120 Sure.
00:07:24.780 But citizens of American citizens, you know, we have to grapple with whether we want more freedom
00:07:29.880 or more security and safety.
00:07:31.700 This was the whole situation with the Patriot Act with surveillance and the agencies being
00:07:36.700 able to communicate and wiretapping and trying to find out what the terror financing was.
00:07:41.080 It's all government control.
00:07:42.820 And I encourage every young man out there and every young woman out there, because we're
00:07:46.440 living in it again, read the book, 1984, George Orwell, Big Brother is Watching You.
00:07:52.400 So whether it's digital credit scores, whether it's, whether it's digital, whether it's a central
00:07:57.860 bank, digital currencies, we've talked about that.
00:08:00.580 Here's how I'm processing this.
00:08:05.740 So to me, what, you know, what, what, if you're running a business and you're doing your budget
00:08:14.780 for 2026 and each department is telling you who they need to hire next.
00:08:20.500 And let's say you're about to hire a hundred people at an average salary of, I don't know,
00:08:27.040 80K because it's some executives to 300 and then some at 50.
00:08:31.040 So let's just say average salary of 90K and you're going to hire a hundred employees.
00:08:34.980 90K at a hundred is what?
00:08:37.980 Is that 9 million bucks, Tom?
00:08:39.460 I think it's 9 million bucks, right?
00:08:40.740 Yeah.
00:08:40.840 So 9 million dollars.
00:08:41.800 Checks out.
00:08:42.400 Okay.
00:08:43.280 We need to do some quick math.
00:08:44.740 What do you want to do?
00:08:46.020 What do you want to do before you hire these hundred people?
00:08:47.840 What do you want to know about Vinny?
00:08:49.760 Background check, background check, criminal record.
00:08:52.760 Um, any, any, uh, criminal offenses, felonies, warrants, um, you know, just potentially a
00:09:02.040 domestic terrorist credit score.
00:09:03.880 Well, I mean, if, if, if they run your social and you're a terrorist, it's going to come up
00:09:07.560 a credit score.
00:09:09.420 Yeah.
00:09:09.960 Just, you know, let's flip it.
00:09:12.060 Let's flip it.
00:09:12.940 Let's say the government puts out a list saying this year, we're going to give up, give away
00:09:18.940 500,000 green cards.
00:09:21.040 I'm just making up a number.
00:09:22.340 Okay.
00:09:23.200 We're going to, we're going to give up, give away 500,000 green cards.
00:09:26.860 What do you want to know about these 500 people when you're looking at their applications?
00:09:30.100 What do you want to know about them?
00:09:32.000 Um, me personally?
00:09:33.860 Yeah.
00:09:34.140 You are, you are running the FBI.
00:09:36.100 You're running, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, border security.
00:09:40.220 You're in charge of that.
00:09:41.520 And you just get a report that, Hey, we're going to get 500,000 green cards.
00:09:45.780 We're giving up in 2026.
00:09:46.980 What do you want to know about these 500,000 people?
00:09:49.040 I want to know what country they're coming from.
00:09:50.720 I want to know if they have a criminal record.
00:09:52.180 I want to know anything in their past that might be, uh, illegal or dangerous or illicit
00:09:58.620 to bringing into America.
00:10:00.140 I'll start with those three and then we can trickle down from there.
00:10:02.560 Well, I'm, I'm, I'm happy that my spokesman Adam spoke for me, which I appreciate.
00:10:06.060 No problem.
00:10:06.760 Um, no, but, uh, yeah, uh, country of origin and government find out if they've ever been,
00:10:12.620 uh, arrested.
00:10:13.840 Uh, if they've ever had anybody like Interpol or any, any terrorist acts, anything around
00:10:19.840 the country.
00:10:20.280 And, uh, uh, it's basically simple for that past, not that much when it comes to another
00:10:24.120 country, no police record, any, I mean, would you go online presence?
00:10:28.300 If they ever said anything like F America or death to America or stuff like that, you
00:10:31.760 might, what I'm saying to you.
00:10:32.720 What I'm, what I'm trying to tell you is Tom, I want to, I want to get your thoughts on
00:10:37.380 this as well, a little bit deeper because it's, it's like this.
00:10:40.000 You're about to have a sleepover of eight kids at your house.
00:10:43.740 What do you want to know about these eight kids?
00:10:47.340 Tom, what is Tom doing?
00:10:49.380 No, no, no, no, Adam, go there.
00:10:51.240 Stop, stop, stop.
00:10:51.820 This is a fair question.
00:10:53.060 One of your kids is going to bring eight of their friends over to do a sleepover.
00:10:57.200 Okay.
00:10:58.060 And it's your house.
00:10:59.420 What do you want to know about these eight kids?
00:11:01.460 First of all, I want to know, I want to know, do I even know the kids and do I already
00:11:05.960 know the parents?
00:11:06.860 Cause this is very, I have two daughters.
00:11:08.860 So my radar is far more sensitive than maybe other people would be when you're a girl,
00:11:14.680 dad, you know what?
00:11:15.820 I'll tell you until I didn't really know fear in this world.
00:11:19.420 Honestly, I didn't till my daughter turned six and I suddenly understood and the things
00:11:24.500 that could happen and what schools were allowing guidance counselors to be. 0.99
00:11:28.720 So here's what I want to do.
00:11:29.900 I've experienced this.
00:11:31.680 Hey, Tom, somebody's having an eight-year-old birthday.
00:11:34.420 The girls are going to have sleeping bags in their big family room and I know the mom, 1.00
00:11:41.060 I know the families, I know the parents.
00:11:43.240 They're watching movies till 11 o'clock and they're getting up in the morning and then
00:11:47.160 they're going to all make waffles and pancakes with the parents.
00:11:50.100 Okay.
00:11:50.500 Any older brothers?
00:11:51.740 Who else lives at that house?
00:11:53.420 What's going on there?
00:11:54.360 I go, I do a fricking mental background check first on the males at the house they're staying.
00:12:00.640 And then I want to know the family of everybody else.
00:12:02.860 I say, wait, there's two other girls there to have dads that carry and are even more conservative 1.00
00:12:08.980 than me.
00:12:09.920 I like that.
00:12:11.340 And so I do my mental, I do what's called underwriting.
00:12:15.020 Perfect.
00:12:15.640 So going back to it, Tom, underwriting immigrants coming here, non-U.S.
00:12:21.140 citizens coming here.
00:12:22.120 What do you want to know about them?
00:12:23.020 Just like what Vinny said, what country are they coming from?
00:12:27.320 Does the country have a reputation for reliable criminal records and those that would get
00:12:32.340 reported to Interpol or international databases?
00:12:35.660 Second, third, you know, I want to know where's the family?
00:12:39.920 Is there some record of the family?
00:12:41.620 Was there a record from schools?
00:12:43.120 I really want to underwrite these people.
00:12:45.340 Yeah, I'm coming from Mogadishu where I was a successful cardiologist for 30 years.
00:12:50.060 Really?
00:12:50.380 In what hospital in Mogadishu exactly?
00:12:53.380 So you know where this is?
00:12:54.140 It's not hard.
00:12:55.100 But this is where it takes me, though, Tom.
00:12:57.560 If you want to come to America with all the threats that's going on right now, I want
00:13:02.720 everything about you.
00:13:04.440 I want your blood work. 0.99
00:13:05.900 I want your...
00:13:06.740 Because remember in the army, Vinny, maybe you remember this.
00:13:10.020 There used to be a military base in Korea that if you went there, there was an STD that 0.62
00:13:15.660 have you got, they would not let you back in the country for two years.
00:13:19.660 And I don't want to get into more details about this, but we have guys that would go
00:13:23.500 to...
00:13:23.840 This is U.S. military soldiers that would go to this camp.
00:13:27.540 And then guess what? 0.99
00:13:28.720 A lot of guys are having sex with a lot of Koreans because there was a lot of prostitution 0.99
00:13:32.120 and difference. 0.95
00:13:32.500 So there was this one specific STD that was going around.
00:13:35.540 If you had it, you ain't coming back to the country.
00:13:37.540 Why not?
00:13:38.360 They didn't want you to come and spread it over here.
00:13:39.920 So to me, I don't know.
00:13:42.320 I think it's a little too easy peasy.
00:13:48.100 Just come down, do your thing.
00:13:49.420 I don't know about that.
00:13:51.160 Especially people that want to come here and get a green card.
00:13:54.400 You want to live here.
00:13:55.700 I want to know...
00:13:56.560 I didn't ask you to come here.
00:13:58.160 You said you want to come here.
00:13:59.960 We didn't force you to come here.
00:14:01.560 You're escaping your country. 0.99
00:14:03.120 Well, tell me everything about your resume.
00:14:05.140 I want to know everything about your resume.
00:14:06.800 And if I'm not getting that...
00:14:07.780 So to me, there's a part of it where, especially with what we just experienced recently,
00:14:14.040 I don't know.
00:14:15.360 For people that want to come here, I want every single detail about you before I allow you
00:14:20.940 to come to America.
00:14:22.020 I'm with you 100% especially.
00:14:23.940 But my question is, where does the slippery slope begin?
00:14:26.780 Because if they started with these immigrants, what's going to stop them from using it on civilians? 1.00
00:14:31.880 You know, remember that story when there was in California that Apple wouldn't open up the iPhone
00:14:39.160 and there was that whole thing right there?
00:14:40.960 This whole conversation of like stopping terrorism but infringing on our rights,
00:14:45.280 it's a delicate balance.
00:14:46.460 Nice.
00:14:46.940 Go to a case study and study what works.
00:14:49.720 What is the safest country in Europe?
00:14:52.320 Poland.
00:14:53.020 Why is that?
00:14:54.100 They don't allow any...
00:14:55.520 Lowest crime, lowest unemployment.
00:14:57.380 Why is that?
00:14:58.300 No, they honestly do not accept...
00:15:00.940 They don't...
00:15:01.680 Any third world, any Muslims... 1.00
00:15:03.380 There's a certain type of people...
00:15:04.600 No, he said it.
00:15:05.500 He said they allowed Christians from Ukraine.
00:15:08.560 They don't allow any Muslims from any countries to come in. 0.99
00:15:11.860 Why are they so safe?
00:15:13.280 What's going on with UK?
00:15:14.320 By the way, I saw a number the other day.
00:15:15.580 Let me give you some of these numbers here that you see with what's going on.
00:15:19.900 It was a very interesting data showing what percentage of white population in different countries
00:15:25.880 what's happened.
00:15:26.440 I don't know if you guys saw this or not.
00:15:28.300 No.
00:15:28.560 On the population in the States.
00:15:31.180 Rob, I don't know if you have this.
00:15:32.380 Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
00:15:33.540 There it is.
00:15:34.300 There it is.
00:15:34.920 Yeah.
00:15:35.400 1975, US white population was...
00:15:37.760 On chin, Rob?
00:15:38.960 83%.
00:15:40.320 Today, it's 59%.
00:15:41.880 That's a 24% drop-off.
00:15:43.700 Jeez.
00:15:44.140 Canada's white population, 75, was 95%.
00:15:46.940 Today, it's 70%.
00:15:48.120 25% drop-off.
00:15:49.880 UK went from 97 to 82.
00:15:52.500 Western Europe went from 96 to 80.
00:15:55.220 So guess what?
00:15:56.140 But if they're coming in...
00:15:58.080 And by the way, I'm part of that.
00:15:59.960 I'm a guy that came from Iran to Germany, Germany to here.
00:16:03.320 But guess what?
00:16:04.400 If you're coming in to love America, create jobs, and be a proud citizen, serve the country,
00:16:11.280 and you love...
00:16:12.020 This is like the true dream?
00:16:13.600 Great.
00:16:14.120 If not, I don't know.
00:16:15.600 I want to be a lot more selective of who we just allow coming in here, seeing what all
00:16:22.580 the stuff that's going on around the world.
00:16:24.040 Right now, with everything that's happening, I think the spiritual battle that the nation
00:16:29.660 that the world is going through right now, I think it's more obvious than I think it's
00:16:34.120 ever been.
00:16:35.160 And I think letting people know...
00:16:36.660 I was watching Gladiator, and they kept saying, hold the line.
00:16:39.920 I watched another movie.
00:16:41.080 I was watching Game of Thrones.
00:16:42.060 Hold the line.
00:16:42.860 When it comes to Christianity and your spirituality, I think having faith and not caring about anything. 0.99
00:16:48.720 Dylan, I actually...
00:16:49.900 Pat, and you remember this on the plane coming here.
00:16:51.640 Guys, on the flight here, the turbulence was so bad.
00:16:56.080 Pat, I have a huge...
00:16:57.640 My biggest fear, my biggest fear of all is flying.
00:17:01.160 Ask Pat.
00:17:01.620 I'm sitting next to Pat.
00:17:02.820 We're dropping by the...
00:17:04.120 We're in Aspen.
00:17:05.460 The mountains are like this.
00:17:06.820 The altitude, it's horrible.
00:17:09.360 And we're coming in for landing, and we find it all nervous.
00:17:13.140 And then Pat's like, ask Dylan.
00:17:15.000 Like, Dylan, were you worried?
00:17:16.660 Were you worried?
00:17:17.240 Were you scared about anything?
00:17:18.600 And Dylan, Dylan.
00:17:20.640 How old is Dylan, Pat?
00:17:21.900 12.
00:17:23.640 Pat?
00:17:24.420 12.
00:17:24.740 He's 12 years old.
00:17:25.520 Okay, Lumps and Shomen. 1.00
00:17:26.860 12 years old goes, Dad.
00:17:28.580 No, I'm not afraid.
00:17:30.360 I have faith.
00:17:31.160 Because I'm not scared about anything.
00:17:32.800 Because if anything, God forbid, happens, I'm going to be with God and Jesus Christ in heaven.
00:17:37.620 So, again, wearing this shirt, guys.
00:17:39.820 I can't tell you how many messages I get of people seeing the back of faith over fear.
00:17:44.860 And people are like, hey, what does that mean?
00:17:46.180 What does Hebrews mean?
00:17:47.160 And then the conversation sparks.
00:17:48.800 And I learned from Dylan at 12 years old.
00:17:51.240 In that moment, what do you have to be afraid of?
00:17:53.560 Nothing.
00:17:54.400 Nothing.
00:17:54.760 You have nothing to be afraid of if you have faith.
00:17:57.780 And, yeah, we have the faith over fear hat.
00:17:59.820 Boom.
00:18:00.480 Just like that.
00:18:01.580 And the value attainment.
00:18:03.000 Guys, I rock this all the time.
00:18:04.720 And, yeah, if you want, go to vtmerch.com and rock it.
00:18:07.660 If you enjoyed this video, you want to watch more videos like this, click here.
00:18:10.280 And if you want to watch the entire podcast, click here.
00:18:13.040 We'll see you now.
00:18:13.800 We'll see you next time.
00:18:14.540 Bye.
00:18:22.400 Bye.