Valuetainment - June 04, 2026


“Bought His Own Hype” - Bari Weiss Fired Scott Pelley After 60 Minutes Shake-Up


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SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains some language that some listeners may not want to hear. On today's show, Tom and Rob discuss the fallout from Scott Pelley's bombshell that CBS News editor-in-chief Barry Weiss is trying to kill 60 Minutes.

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00:00:27.820 We heard rumblings that the 60 Minutes host or reporter, Scott Pelley, who has been with CBS since 89, was not too happy with some of the things that was taking place.
00:00:42.240 And apparently, if you look at the online numbers, you will see him making between $5 to $7 million a year.
00:00:49.700 And so a story comes out that all of a sudden, Rob, do you have the letter that CBS gave to him?
00:00:54.700 And then after giving the letter, you know, they're like, look, you come in here.
00:00:59.440 You're not happy.
00:01:00.180 You're making some noise.
00:01:01.140 You're screaming at us.
00:01:01.960 You're telling us what we're doing wrong.
00:01:03.320 You're not following our vision of what we want to go next.
00:01:06.380 Let's just make it easier for you.
00:01:07.720 Guess what?
00:01:08.560 You're fired.
00:01:09.420 And, you know, go do something else.
00:01:11.660 You don't have to be here.
00:01:12.520 Go choose to do something else.
00:01:14.080 Rob, while you're looking for the letter, maybe go back to that first video that you had.
00:01:17.260 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:18.400 This is about Scott Pelley, one of the best known stars on 60 Minutes, really one of the best known journalists in America.
00:01:24.140 and he's very directly challenging his bosses at CBS News today, creating a bit of a crisis
00:01:29.500 internally. Right now, it's about an overhaul at 60 Minutes, the highest-rated news magazine in
00:01:34.480 the country. Pelley's been a part of that program for decades, and he's claiming that CBS News
00:01:38.920 editor-in-chief Barry Weiss is trying to kill the show. In a staff meeting earlier today,
00:01:44.040 Pelley said, quote, she was brought in to kill it, and she's been doing exactly that. 0.62
00:01:48.600 Now, Weiss thinks that's ridiculous, and some of Weiss's deputies believe Pelley was being
00:01:52.540 unprofessional and rude in this staff meeting, but here's what's going on. Last fall, Weiss was
00:01:57.420 brought in by Paramount CEO David Ellison to remodel and renovate CBS News. Okay, so Tom,
00:02:04.480 what's going on there with Scott Pelley? So first of all, that guy there on CNN is just pushing
00:02:10.780 party line. What was going on inside is that people are responding positively to the change
00:02:17.420 that Barry Weiss is putting there,
00:02:18.800 and then you have long-timers that are not.
00:02:22.180 There are quotes from people that was covered.
00:02:24.180 I'm reading two different articles I put quotes from.
00:02:26.880 Most people in this building are perplexed.
00:02:29.360 They have jobs, they want to keep those jobs,
00:02:31.300 and they have thought that 60 Minutes
00:02:33.240 has been an arrogant group in the corner for a while.
00:02:36.360 You could see that. 0.71
00:02:37.340 You could see Leslie Stahl.
00:02:38.500 This is 60 Minutes, Donald Trump.
00:02:41.720 Also, coming back, the arrogance is beyond reproach,
00:02:45.720 But at the same time, the CBS people understand they'll be affected by Barry Weiss as she changed and plans.
00:02:51.960 Remember, if you're third place in a three-network race, people that are hired are here to change and move it forward.
00:02:58.580 You hear that?
00:02:59.400 So there are people in there that understand that, hey, we're third place, and the 60 Minutes people were arrogant.
00:03:06.720 You can't go off.
00:03:08.580 Our leadership needs to be given a chance.
00:03:10.820 You can't lead a place where you're told you're not welcome and you allowed old timers to stand up on a soapbox.
00:03:18.420 This was a setup.
00:03:20.060 This was Scott going off for the show.
00:03:22.860 That was just for show.
00:03:24.680 He wants to stand up for journalism and maybe get fired, but does he really care?
00:03:28.840 And what does it change for all of us that are here?
00:03:31.180 The grandstanding thing is insane.
00:03:33.220 It's third-grade playground bullying stuff.
00:03:35.700 This is not the way you conduct yourself.
00:03:37.440 And what about all of us that are still working?
00:03:40.820 There's the big one.
00:03:42.120 What about the rest of us that are still here working?
00:03:44.000 What did you accomplish?
00:03:45.480 You're not taking down a dictator or someone committed war crimes.
00:03:49.100 You're not interviewing Saddam Hussein. 0.94
00:03:52.040 It's amazing.
00:03:53.080 These are comments coming from the inside.
00:03:54.960 And by the way, Nick Bilton, how long has Nick been there?
00:03:58.740 Can you pull up how long Nick's been there?
00:04:00.020 Because that's not coming from Barry White.
00:04:01.360 So how long has Nick been with CBS?
00:04:03.260 May.
00:04:04.820 Or a minute, I'm assuming, right?
00:04:06.780 Yeah, very, very short.
00:04:08.720 Very short.
00:04:09.380 Yeah, May 28th to 2026.
00:04:12.200 And so where was he at before?
00:04:14.500 So Bilton worked at New York Times 2003 to 2016,
00:04:17.460 which is kind of the same time Barry Weiss worked there, right?
00:04:20.180 So they're coming.
00:04:21.240 So they both came.
00:04:22.280 Didn't they meet at New York Times?
00:04:25.280 So he wrote the article to him.
00:04:30.720 Brian, how are you processing this yourself on what happened here?
00:04:33.500 Well, it's kind of interesting.
00:04:34.720 We just talked about Pulte.
00:04:35.980 if you're looking for somebody to fire the CIA, it would be Scott, it would be Pelley.
00:04:42.880 So, I mean, when there's change coming in, people react.
00:04:49.620 And Pelley obviously reacted poorly, and he needed to be fired.
00:04:53.920 And I think Pulte coming in is looking to do the same thing.
00:04:57.360 We need to change these entities.
00:05:00.460 California is changing.
00:05:01.620 I think all of these things we've talked about today have a similarity.
00:05:05.980 And that is that the progressives went too far and the political machinery went too far.
00:05:15.700 And so it's being pushed back on in multiple ways, Barry Weiss, Pulte now, the Republicans doing well in California elections.
00:05:26.820 and I think all of it is a reaction that the pendulum went too far
00:05:31.900 and the people that pushed the pendulum that far are mad that it's now coming back.
00:05:37.120 And by the way, keep this in mind.
00:05:38.020 So David Ellison, we know where he's at, the role he's playing.
00:05:40.480 He brought Barry Weiss in.
00:05:41.520 Barry Weiss said our strategy until now has been to cling to the audience
00:05:44.220 that remains on broadcast television.
00:05:46.340 She said at CBS at a town hall earlier this year,
00:05:48.760 I'm here to tell you that if we stick to that strategy, we're toast.
00:05:52.220 And then she said CBS News is still in a linear mentality
00:05:55.640 and we need to shift to a streaming mentality immediately.
00:05:59.240 Humberto.
00:06:00.520 There's a couple of points here.
00:06:01.760 First of all, sometimes we play a few clips from 60 Minutes on the podcast
00:06:07.440 and we get stricken immediately.
00:06:09.440 They do not understand the internet.
00:06:11.500 If you want your show to do well, you've got to have your clips go out.
00:06:15.660 The second thing, these people at 60 Minutes, they're not the best people, Pat.
00:06:19.120 If we start, remember the Kamala editing kerfuffle that they had?
00:06:23.980 They had a problem with big tobacco.
00:06:26.380 You know, they didn't want to, this was around the 90s.
00:06:28.760 They didn't want to publish one of the interviews because it made big tobacco look bad.
00:06:32.500 What else?
00:06:33.320 The Benghazi report that they had to pull back.
00:06:36.820 You know, there's a bunch of things that they've been towing party lines and misleading the American public.
00:06:42.900 So, like, they're treating this like as a holier-than-thou institution that can never do wrong.
00:06:48.220 You know, the apex of journalism.
00:06:51.580 And it's just, you know, I'm not with it, you know, at all.
00:06:55.440 Like, I'm glad that they're cleaning house and they need to change the format
00:07:00.060 and they need to be honest for a little bit, Pat.
00:07:02.560 Brandon.
00:07:03.420 Yeah, how delusional is this guy if he thinks that, like,
00:07:06.120 you see what Fox did with Tucker and, you know,
00:07:09.220 without even thinking twice about it.
00:07:10.680 And, you know, that's something that's always happened
00:07:12.060 where big companies have gotten rid of their star.
00:07:14.000 If the star acts up and actually he's bigger than the company
00:07:16.280 and, you know, things move on without them.
00:07:18.220 so the um the lack of self-awareness for him to think that he was that big to that degree like
00:07:23.460 to be honest i haven't even heard the guys and i see recognize his face now but i don't even
00:07:27.700 didn't even recognize his name before the story came out so he's no he's no this guy's known he's
00:07:32.620 done some of the biggest work for 60 minutes this is but not on tucker's level though right no but
00:07:37.260 60 minutes if you think about a show that people would never miss of course you know at the same
00:07:44.340 time you know you're sitting there you would watch they would format it with two or three stories
00:07:48.660 it's actually very good system and it was a good product it's actually very good product
00:07:52.540 now they could adjust and they can do something to it so but this guy's a household name every
00:07:57.800 president knows who this guy is just so you know that every governor in america knows who this guy
00:08:01.700 is you know most billionaires in the media space they know who this guy is but the question now
00:08:07.560 becomes the following yesterday we had medias on here we had a good conversation with him
00:08:10.900 and he had an issue with MSNBC he left he was able to make it and made him build a good business for
00:08:18.340 himself he's now a proud capitalist we had a nice friendly fight yesterday which you'll see
00:08:22.480 when it comes out I kept calling capitalist and he kept calling me other things but we had a good
00:08:26.280 time to get it it's made for tv but he had the capabilities of doing it independently now he
00:08:31.780 makes more money than he's ever made in his life and he's doing very well Tucker left probably
00:08:37.240 making more money than he's ever made in his life he's doing well right this guy can't go do a
00:08:42.380 podcast he needs cbs see there's different kind of talent there's a kind of a talent that you're
00:08:48.120 a one day you can go and do anything you want and you're gonna have people coming for your opinion
00:08:51.960 no one in the world wakes up and says i wonder what pelly thinks yeah i wonder what pelly thinks
00:08:57.700 about iran i wonder what pelly thinks about economy i wonder what they don't do that so
00:09:03.220 where does he go to next does msnbc go pick him up msn does cnn go pick him up does he go to
00:09:09.080 abc do these guys bring him in and try to like one of the old timers that they used to work at
00:09:14.020 cbs that they left to a different place hey let's bring pally he'll bring the audience is he an
00:09:18.420 audience puller no like is he somebody that's gonna or did this guy have a job of a lifetime
00:09:23.980 that one day he woke up and got so arrogant that he lost it he's gonna say how the hell am i ever
00:09:28.120 gonna make five to seven million bucks a year there's different types of guys that you work
00:09:31.460 So I don't think he's the guy that's going to go anywhere and get that kind of money.
00:09:35.340 I don't think he is.
00:09:36.060 It's a plum job, like a Wheel of Fortune type of job,
00:09:38.440 like where you just get lucky and get one of those jobs where it's a cable TV
00:09:41.480 and you're the face of it and you make millions per year.
00:09:44.260 But, yeah, no, that's a once-in-a-lifetime type of situation. 0.98
00:09:47.020 In his statement, he was talking crap about podcasters. 0.97
00:09:50.460 Now he's going to be one. 0.98
00:09:51.440 Yeah, now he's not going to be one.
00:09:53.380 The thing is I get a lot of Manex talking about content creation and everything.
00:09:56.900 And when they first ask me about what equipment to buy,
00:10:00.640 I immediately know they're not going to make it.
00:10:03.360 You know what I mean?
00:10:04.320 Because creating content, and Pat does this all the time,
00:10:07.140 like sometimes I will go on my feet and see a Pat video
00:10:09.300 where he recorded by himself in his house on a Sunday,
00:10:12.980 and it does great.
00:10:14.640 Like content creation is something that needs to come from you.
00:10:17.120 Like if you are able to do it with your own phone,
00:10:20.400 your own script, in your own house,
00:10:22.600 and I don't think this generation of guys has it in them
00:10:25.740 to create content all the time.
00:10:27.120 Tom does it all the time as well.
00:10:28.720 You will go on your walks, you know, record yourself
00:10:30.840 and make some great points, you know?
00:10:32.780 So I don't think he has it.
00:10:34.440 It's a genuine burning desire to talk about something,
00:10:36.620 not the desire for attention.
00:10:38.360 You know what the challenge is?
00:10:39.780 Here's a challenge.
00:10:41.280 When you lack self-awareness and other people in your ear
00:10:45.800 tell you how important you are and you buy it.
00:10:49.700 You buy it.
00:10:51.120 You have to be so careful.
00:10:52.900 There were guys that run for president in 2020, and I told them,
00:10:56.700 you're making the biggest mistake.
00:10:57.700 Now, 2024, you're making the biggest mistake of your life,
00:11:00.220 not making a phone call to the president, governor, self-awareness.
00:11:04.180 Why?
00:11:04.960 Who's telling you what in your ear?
00:11:06.540 Hey, you got it.
00:11:07.520 Hey, you're better.
00:11:08.680 Hey, he's not going to.
00:11:09.480 Hey, it's you.
00:11:10.660 You have to know the power of positions in every business structure. 0.92
00:11:15.920 I think this guy royally screwed up.
00:11:17.660 Good news is he's worth $13 million as of right now to $15 million.
00:11:22.440 Where's Matt Lauer, by the way?
00:11:24.540 What's Matt Lauer doing lately?
00:11:26.540 Where is he at?
00:11:28.080 Yeah, he has a $47 million house in Watermill, I think.
00:11:30.920 He has a beautiful home.
00:11:32.020 It's one of the most beautiful homes in Watermill, in the Hampton area.
00:11:35.460 Is he trying to sell his house?
00:11:37.260 What happens next?
00:11:38.520 Hopefully, this guy also bought a house that he bought it for $5 million,
00:11:42.920 that he's now sitting on $25 million,
00:11:45.040 and he needs to sell the house for $25 million
00:11:47.580 and go buy a small little place in Hamptons or something for $3, $4, $5 million.
00:11:52.020 I'm not talking about Matt Lauer, Rob.
00:11:53.660 You can type in Matt Lauer's house.
00:11:55.700 I'm talking about Scott Kemp. 0.98
00:11:56.820 Matt Lauer has a ridiculous house. 0.88
00:11:59.180 So some of these guys, if they invest it properly, they have some money. 0.94
00:12:03.020 Is that the house? 0.99
00:12:03.960 He's got a ridiculous house. 0.95
00:12:05.060 I remember $47 million. 0.97
00:12:06.500 Yeah, $44 million.
00:12:07.580 There you go.
00:12:08.600 So is one trying to channel something?
00:12:11.720 Is this the one who was trying to list?
00:12:15.320 Yeah, it's been listed since 2019.
00:12:17.320 So, you know, again, self-awareness.
00:12:20.480 Be careful who's in your ear telling you.
00:12:22.920 All of these podcasters that they make fun of,
00:12:25.380 they could never be able to do podcasting.
00:12:27.980 They could never be able to do the podcasting.
00:12:29.920 Podcasting requires strong opinions, being willing to get in there,
00:12:33.460 get your ass handed to you, being wrong, being in the ring. 0.76
00:12:36.900 Some can't do it. 0.99
00:12:38.040 It ain't for everybody, especially to replace $5 million to $7 million.
00:12:42.740 Replace $5 million to $7 million of revenue and sponsorship dollars.
00:12:46.360 That's not easy to do.
00:12:47.500 So anyways, we'll see what happens with them.
00:12:49.460 I'm sure we'll follow the story closely.
00:12:51.020 The big game is around the corner.
00:12:52.640 They're already talking about the matchups, who's playing against who.
00:12:57.040 Different people are representing different countries.
00:12:59.540 Obviously, I live in an interesting community where a lot of soccer players live.
00:13:04.080 We knew when they left to go off to Kansas City.
00:13:07.720 Messi's in Kansas City.
00:13:08.940 This is going to be the most amazing thing.
00:13:11.160 There were so many interesting stats.
00:13:13.000 The most ever players above 40 years old playing in the World Cup.
00:13:16.720 The youngest player is a 17-year-old kid from, I think, from Mexico, if I'm not mistaken.
00:13:22.940 There's going to be some interesting stories.
00:13:24.780 But we had these hats that we made representing different countries, okay?
00:13:29.900 And believe it or not, for Iran, we had the old Shahan Shahi,
00:13:33.940 Mohammad Reza Shah Palavi's flag right here, which is sick.
00:13:37.860 And I think there's a couple of those hats left. 0.95
00:13:39.900 Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it.
00:13:46.720 go down down down down down down down down down down down
00:14:02.080 down down down down there
00:14:16.720 All right, you can pause it right there, Rob.
00:14:44.580 Whether it's Argentina, whether it's Brazil, whether it's U.S., 0.67
00:14:47.940 which the U.S. hats look ridiculous, or whether it's Iran, any of them,
00:14:51.760 go to vtmerch.com, place your order, get the hat, get it for yourself,
00:14:55.340 get it for your friends, but go to vtmerch.com to place your order
00:14:59.440 and represent your country for this summer.
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