āBreak The Back Of The Regimeā - U.S. CRIPPLES Iran In Karaj B1 Bridge Strike
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In this episode, the crew talks about the recent attack on a bridge between Iran and Karaj, Iran, and the recent strike on a U.S. base in Venezuela. They also talk about the implications of the strike and what it means for the future of drone warfare in the region.
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The first story I want to get into is what happened with Iran yesterday.
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A major bridge was hit, and this bridge that we're talking about is a bridge from Tehran
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I've been over that bridge God knows how many times.
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What would you compare it to, like, Brooklyn or George Washington?
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Well, no, but the point is when my dad would go to Karaj to work,
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So you're driving back and forth, and, you know, Karaj,
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Karaj is like, imagine you live in L.A., and Karaj is Palm Springs.
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It's like a, you know, two-hour drive in his Gian.
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So I don't know what the drive is in a Mercedes or a Porsche,
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but in his Gian, Gian would go 45 miles an hour.
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It's probably like an hour and 10-minute drive, hour and 20-minute drive.
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But that happened yesterday. 95 wounded. Rob, how many killed? I saw number eight. Has that been updated yet?
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Let me take a look. Last I saw was eight as well.
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Yeah, last I saw was eight. Tom, what do you think is going on with this?
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Because when you're hitting something like this strategically, what do you think is behind this?
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I think they're upping it and hitting these kind of infrastructure targets.
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They're just trying to break the back of the regime.
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But this regime doesn't care about its own people.
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It was happy to slaughter 30,000, 42,000, you know, and then they claimed, oh, only 3,100, which is horrifying in and of itself.
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And so I think they're trying to break the back of the regime and they're and they're trying to hit key infrastructure.
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And I think it's also there's another underlying thing here that, you know, I'm not on board with, but I think this may be part of the strategy.
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They're trying to get, I think, the people to rise up and to say, we want this done.
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We this has got to be done. We've got to rise up, too.
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I think that's where it's going. But this is so different from Venezuela. We only went in and got Maduro. We didn't hit any civilian targets. We wanted to leave the country intact and all the resources intact so the people of Venezuela could come back up and live tomorrow with working power and water, right?
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There was all that talk about Venezuela. Remember this?
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And so now this is like, wow, it's civilian targets.
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I think there's two-sided motivation going on here, and I don't like it.
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And by the way, there's a couple bridges there.
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Yeah, the U.S. just came out and said, we take responsibility for this bridge.
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that was attacked and the reason why it was an important one is because there's ongoing like
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there's transport that happens from this bridge to different places with their drone development
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uh elon what are you at with this so i think the drone development issue is a massive issue which
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goes much deeper than just this we're gonna have to rearrange the way we've historically fought wars
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um we you know drones are essentially i hear that too do you guys yeah i hear it but the
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They have to do whatever they can to get rid of them.
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But the optics of attacking civilian infrastructure,
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this is an interesting war in the sense that the biggest threat to the U.S.
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in this war is not just what's happening in Iran,
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but the general morale of Americans toward the war itself.
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they tend to get more and more and more distasteful about our actions in the region.
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And I think they're in a rock and a hard place, and they're starting to do whatever they can.
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If this does limit Iran's drone capabilities, for whatever reason, if that was the intent behind it,
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I think that's the single most absolute necessary thing that the U.S. can do right now.
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Military bases can be swarmed, which, as we're learning, we don't have very good defenses against them.
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But no one wants to see human life being lost, civilian infrastructure being targeted.
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And, again, I just want morale to stay high in the United States.
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When Trump laid out his mission for what they wanted to do,
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the ancillary effects were, let's help the people of Iran. Let's maybe have a regime change.
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Those are all icing on the cake. I think they laid out what their military objectives were.
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Did they not? Rubio came out and said it. We're going to eliminate their air force. We're going
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to eliminate their Navy. We're going to defund their terror network. We're going to stop them
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from going nuclear. All cleaning up. You can clean up your house internally or clean up outside your
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house i think united states is basically saying clean up outside your house stop attacking your
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neighbors stop attacking the gulf states stop attacking israel stop shouting death to america
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but whatever the hell you sickos want to do inside your house that's on you you want to kill your own
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people like you do like you do so often unfortunately that's on you that sucks nobody wants
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death nobody's here saying we want war we want death the people that want death are the irgc
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they're killing their own people so someone's going to pay the price for uh iran's disgusting
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ideology and unfortunately it's going to be their own people yeah but i i and adam you just saying
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that not from like just because i'm hearing it bothers me so much because this whole thing was
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about the people those thousands of people that on their own it wasn't some bs i saw her so people
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were there trying to incite no no the iranian people said after 47 years enough is enough and
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they went there with no freaking weapons bats and sticks and stuff like that and they fought
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the freaking military okay and and the world finally saw it till they cut off the internet
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okay did we fight the military or are they doing a peaceful protest no no well it turned into that
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and then finally by the way and i saw videos of the irgc because iranians hiding their apartments
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were recording the irgc running and civilians driving over them that's the only weapon that
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they had you know i mean so what my my thing is this adam the the and i'm gonna keep going back
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to and i hate to repeat myself i was under the impression like millions of americans that it was
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for the people we all thought it was for the people i thought the nuclear um capability was
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destroyed months ago by the way and seymour hirsch pat the journalist who by the way he predicted
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the iran nuclear bombing back then he predicted the north stream he's the first one that talked
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about the north stream pipeline he said trump's speech was a ground war announcement he said
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trump was telling a quote telling the world that the ground war is on as of today navy seals army
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rangers are either on route or they're going to be in zones within striking range to the strait
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of hormuz and saying that he could have up to 50 000 fighters ready to clear the strait and dig
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out enriched uranium from tunnels under the nuclear sites and that's what he's saying and by the way
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And then this leads to my thing, Pat, and I'm sorry, guys, I keep going there.
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I get it, and I'm with my mom and dad, our families are from there.
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It was for the people, but when Rubio said, hey, the reason we hit first,
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because Israel said, we're going to do it without you,
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so we went first because we want to protect our interests,
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those 13 soldiers that died, our soldiers, those weren't ground troops.
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Those are Americans stationed at those bases dead because think about it.
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But Marco Rubio said, hey, Israel said they're going, so we had to go.
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I understand, but there's a very sad reality about the situation with Iran,
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which is that they did lie about their nuclear proliferation.
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We were told that we destroyed the base with bunker busters.
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Then they lied about their intermediate-range ballistic missiles.
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B-52s flying over for the first time supporting Israel.
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which was a very clean strategic military operation that went well but then what we're
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seeing now in terms of just what iran has shown the world it has shown the world it's willing
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to enrich uranium past 60 the only country in the entire world with non-nuclear weapons doing that
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and it's also lying to the u.n watchdogs then what do we see next what's the biggest threat
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to america from iran arguably not the development of their nuclear power the real threat is the
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development of their long-range ballistic missile systems which they lied about they lied about it
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this is a country that's yelling death to america which is enriching uranium well beyond any
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utilitarian purpose and has now lied about developing long-range ballistic missiles
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and proved it by literally launching them so as much as we say israel as much as we say this we
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do not in america have a national infrastructure to defend against ballistic missiles like israel
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does it's a much smaller landmass they've been exposed to it for decades and what we are in a
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position to do right now is either fight today i believe and i may be wrong about this or fight in
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the future when they have this okay but here's my question to you though when we went in on the
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summer and we bombed their nuclear spots why at that moment just take out everything go for it
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then why wait now why wait this long because i'm telling you from a military standpoint this oh now
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we just found out we know everything that's happening over there but we have satellite we
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have imagery the united states is the we're gangsters bro we know everything so the one
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thing that bothers me is let me finish my point please is we know where everything is we know
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where to bomb why in that moment didn't you just take it out because now when you say hey it's for
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the people now the same people that he's saying they're screwed i hate that attitude because
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they're sitting there well you're saying they didn't take it out like when when they went and
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shot the nuclear iPad go all the ballistics let me ask you a question so let's just say we
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if you remember and i'm trying to recollect what what happened 24 hours later there were rumors
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And what if he knew we didn't and they still have it?
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And if you got that intel, you have two choices.
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Publicly announced that you screwed up and now a successful mission is bad.
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Number two, if you know we didn't go deep enough, what's your recommendation, Mr. Vinny?
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what should we do strike him again obviously okay so then that's the part that we don't have access
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to that and i agree with that because i'm not in those rooms that's the point if that's the case
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knowing trump is very careful on how he controls pr you think trump's going to come out and say we
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made a mistake we didn't go deep that'll never happen in a million years versus he's going to
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say we're going to go back and get the job done so you have to assume that that could be i agree
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one of the possibilities i just want to make an analogy here because what i want from you is
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clarity because what i know what i love about you is your passion what i'm trying to understand is
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all right so you're for it you're against it you want to help the people they never said that the
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number one objective was to help the people that's a that was a product could we find out rob what
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was the don't hang don't hang those young boys i have your back that was the first one that i heard
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at them and it wasn't about that that that was before they announced their military campaign
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they've come out and said here's our objective and we're still being like what's the objective
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they said rubio said it trump said it destroy their military capabilities defund their terror
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networks eliminate the nuclear threat regime change is a bonus helping the people is a bonus
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so here's my that's not the reality of the situation is an iran post-war without regime
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change results in inevitably the same thing we see again it's like maybe 10 to 15 years maybe even
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even worse oh my god here's look can i just make a very simple analogy tear it apart get to it
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iran is a cancer on the world the islamic regime of iran is a cancer on the world okay i agree how
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do you negotiate with cancer let me give an example you know the story with my ex well you
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don't kill you don't kill the negotiator that you don't do that you don't know what you're doing
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right now okay hear me out you're asking why'd we do it we stopped we came back cancer can come back
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i know my ex-girlfriend got cancer leukemia oh my god this is crazy what are we gonna do she's
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young she's healthy she's beautiful oh my god what are we gonna do chemo are we not we're gonna do
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holistic what are we gonna do finally the doctor said listen you have to do chemo the only way to
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live and survive is to do chemo here's one thing you need to know the chemo could the cancer could
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come back but that's something we'll deal with at the time what's my point the islamic regime of
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is a cancer on the world i agree you don't defeat cancer by being like hey can we be friends
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can we negotiate can you please be nice it's coming to kill you whether it's killing you
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today or killing you next week or killing you next year it's going to kill you yeah but what
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about the body that the cancer is and you don't just kill like what about the person the people
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adam you can't just go in because the mission wasn't what they said that the mission was going
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to be it's confusing what you're doing is is is negotiating how to handle cancer you have to
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eliminate it that's it there's no further conversation other than we have to remove
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the cancer but adam you can't you can't abandon all ethics at the argument of we have to destroy
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this thing you become your ethics these people have no i understand they're trying to kill you
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but there's still there's still so i understand both sides of this argument sometimes there's
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not a we're not killing their people they're killing them i i just i believe that sometimes
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there isn't a happy ending right so and i understand that argument that there's a terrible
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situation you're trying to find a solution to it neither solution is great that's the situation
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we're in with iran it's hard for people to accept that reality but the end reality here also is you
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cannot come into a situation appealing to the american public it's just an a reality of politics
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and wars despite what people believe do need political backing you do need your population
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to be behind you and you can't come into a war expressing certain things like you're going to
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take care of the Iranian people that you're not going to allow hangings that you're going to do
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these things and then leave them abandoned it's very much by the way akin to what we saw in
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Afghanistan with Biden leaving and then the you know seeing the massive tragedy that happened
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there you just can't do those kind of things even if you can get away with it let me ask you this
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I asked this question yesterday with Richard Werner and and Luke Orman is is is Trump in a
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position right now where there's no way he can win because if he gets out you know hey iran won
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and guess how iran's going to do in the public eye they're always going to say well we know iran
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won underestimated iran won iran won iran won iran won and that guy the foreign minister
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the guy that we always see on tv at agarchi agarchi rob a boss he's going to be a hero okay
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You think it's going to be done in a few weeks?
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So he's stuck in a rock and a hard place, even just with oil prices.
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I don't think there's winning for him, to be honest with you.
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Well, what I'll answer is sometimes it's okay to be hated today,
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Do you think he has the patience to be able to do that,
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knowing the amount of pressure he has with World Cup and midterms around the corner?
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I think Trump is the kind of guy who will not just back out just due to his ego alone.
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So now, if he leaves today, if he leaves today, and Iran goes back to what they're doing,
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Iran is always going to say, we defeated Trump.
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We defeated Trump, and there's nothing you can say about it.
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Number two, Americans, if he continues, if the gas prices continue this way until April 15th,
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and we had Luke Gorman and Richard Warner on, if this continues this way,
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Now this becomes COVID 2.0, like in its own way.
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Now, you know, Richard, who was the godfather of quantitative easing,
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comes out and says, don't be surprised if there's talks of quantitative easing
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So imagine now the government comes out and says,
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They do quantitative easing, and they take out a trillion,
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trillion and a half, and that's going to be, you know,
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going buying bad debt from banks and trying to get that money
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to get back into the marketplace so they can manipulate the market
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I don't think there is, and I think people have to look back at history
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and understand what happened here because Bill Clinton screwed up.
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There's a very, very large body of work that was written about this called the Seoul hostage problem.
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Seoul, South Korea was held hostage because North Korea had such a stockpile of conventional weapons that they threatened to rain them down on Seoul if we attacked, I think it was called the Yongbyon, Yongbyon, something like that, a reactor.
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And Clinton was told by the military, if we don't hit and we don't do something here,
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North Korea becomes a nuclear power, and it's run by a crazy man.
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And so Bill Clinton backed off in 1994, and we ended up with a nuclear North Korea.
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They knew there was going to be issues because they saw themselves as the second victim.
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They said it's not just going to be South Korea if they get some nukes.
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It's now going to be us because we are ā they referred to themselves.
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Japan called themselves the Western target because they are seen as a Western country.
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He said, listen, they're going to hit us because when they hit us, it's like hitting the U.S. economy because of all the trade with Japan.
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So what North Korea ā it's a point you're making, Tom.
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North Korea is to Japan what Iran is to Israel.
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And Iran is dropping conventional weapons on Qatar.
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Why are they dropping them on their Arab brethren?
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They're dropping them on people who are half friends or friends with the USA,
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trying to get those friends to speak up and say,
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Trump, make him stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop what you're doing.
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They stockpiled the drones and the conventional to give them the shield of deterrence
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You know, comments are going to hit me about AIPAC and everything like this.
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I am not on that page and not on that conspiracy page at all with me at all.
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Give every weapon imaginable to Iran, Israel's gone in a week.
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Give every weapon imaginable to Israel, nothing happens.
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take every weapon away from Israel, Israel's gone in a week.
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So you just play the chess game out in the Middle East
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and see what the outcome is here and what they're trying to do.
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And the reason we have a crazy man with nukes in North Korea
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is because the Clinton administration, led by Bill, he's got to own it,
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and this is the sequencing of what you said and what you said
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Sometimes you know what you have to do as a leader.
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Sometimes you sit there as a leader, you look at everybody,
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and you have this camp that doesn't agree with this decision,
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and you have this camp that doesn't agree with that decision.
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You have to sit there, and you know what I need to do?
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get the hell away from everybody, and ask yourself,
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you were selected, you were elected to be the president.
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Not what the right thing is to do politically to win midterms.
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What is the right thing for you to do long-term as a president?
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There's only one person that has the answer to this question, and it's him.
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He's in such a cornered place as a leader with the amount of burden he's carrying today,
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and he knows what Clintons did with North Korea.
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He knows the history of what other people did in the decision.
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He knows that Obama gave him how many pallets of cash that none of it went to what they said they were going to do.
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He knows the reason why Iran became so powerful is because of Obama.
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He knows that this whole thing that why Iran is able to stand tall
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and, you know, push people around is because Obama funded this war
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indirectly from whatever the year was, 08, I don't know what year.
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Like, you know, Humberto, we're talking, and what was it?
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You know, the whole thing with the good news, bad news?
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Humberto, you want to text me that conversation that we were having?
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You have to think General Commander-in-Chief Trump right now.
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By the way, whatever you choose to do, whatever Trump chooses to do, guess what's going to happen?
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Whatever, there is nothing he can do right here by the media and the tensions being high.
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However, once it's solved and we move on, history books will write about it.
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And by the time he gets credit for this or not, it'll be 20 years from now, he won't be around to be able to read it.
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When he gets credit for the decision he makes today, it'll be 2046 and he'll probably not be alive.
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You know, there's two things there that I'll just back that up 100% with Pat.
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As Harry Truman said, at the height of crisis, it was a longer statement he made,
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but the quote that gets repeated by Harry Truman is,
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Some questions cannot be answered, but they can be decided, and I was elected to decide them.
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Yeah, I just want to encourage him to get back and say, out of all the, you know, he's a what do you think, what do you think, what do you think guy?
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Can I just touch on Tom's point really quick about a nuclear Iran, how it's different than a nuclear Korea?
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Number one, you're looking at a nuclear Iran will lead to a nuclear Saudi Arabia.
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All the countries in the region will want to have nuclear power.
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But this points to the next big issue, which is different than North Korea,
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which is that these people don't have a sense of self-preservation.
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I try and make people understand this as much as possible.
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You see guys out there saying, no, no, they have incentive to not use their nukes.
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it according to their ideology they have incentive to use their nukes so you can't just look at it
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and say it's comparable to north korea because north korea does have a sense of self-preservation
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at the least and that's the largest deciding factor in how dangerous you are when you have
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a world-ending weapon so i just think that's something that people have to really say you're
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using conventional weapons to create this this this deterrence to give you a blanket and a cloud
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yeah, the character of the two bad actors is different.
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But just like in real estate, location, location, location.
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And Diego Garcia went to high school with Diego Garcia.
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Apparently that's a base that we share with the UK.
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Did they not shoot a missile that way that can hit it?
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They have the Middle East and they have the world hostage.
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And we're saying, well, what do we want to do with the terrorists?
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Like, we're having a conversation of, like, wow, there's no win situation.
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There's no way Iran can say that they're winning.
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And he is so concerned sometimes about PR that it gets him to make the decision.
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there's two things right now that the way they're losing PR,
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But on the PR side, there's not a winning with this war here.
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But I look at my 401k that I started when I was dead.
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This is actually, you know what's a better analogy, Adam?
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It's the business you and I are in, which is what?
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Because, you know, who does life insurance depend?
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I think this is life insurance for American people long-term,
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but you never get credit for it until you're dead.
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But what I'm saying is, everything was, and I'm going to move on.
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We've got a lot of good stories to get through.
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What I'm saying is, he needs to just go make the decision and stick to it.
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You're going to have a lot of noise that's coming your way.
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You have access to the information, make the decision, move forward, and let the criticism drop.
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