Valuetainment - June 20, 2025


＂Bunker Buster Bombs＂ - Nancy Mace BACKS Trump Striking Fordo Nuclear Site In Israel-Iran Conflict


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

193.8164

Word Count

2,566

Sentence Count

226

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Rob and Nancy discuss the latest news regarding Iran's nuclear sites, and whether or not the U.S. should join in on the effort to destroy them. They also discuss the possibility of a joint Israeli strike on Iran's Fordow nuclear facility.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Where's the story that Israel says they're asking troops for?
00:00:03.480 Okay, Israel president calls on the world to help destroy Iran nuclear sites, right?
00:00:09.140 And I think there's even one of them that's talking about he's asking America.
00:00:11.900 Is this it?
00:00:12.540 Yes, sir.
00:00:13.140 Go for it, Rob.
00:00:14.220 There's a bigger picture here that the world and the American people should understand.
00:00:19.180 We have to stop this empire of evil no more and tell them,
00:00:24.060 get the goddamn nukes out of your hands and start behaving in a decent way
00:00:28.440 and not be the rogue state you are all over the world.
00:00:30.940 It's impossible.
00:00:32.160 Would Israel like to see the U.S. at this point join in with direct offensive military action in Iran?
00:00:38.740 So as you see, the Israeli leadership is quite cautious.
00:00:42.420 It's a decision that needs to be taken by the president and his team.
00:00:46.600 So obviously we would welcome anything that helps eradicate the Iranian nuclear program completely,
00:00:54.600 including the main two sites at Fordow and Natanz.
00:00:59.820 Pause it right there, Rob.
00:01:01.080 This goes to Israel, we are hitting Fordow with or without U.S. bunker busters, right?
00:01:05.720 This is a, do you have that story right there?
00:01:08.080 There's a clip on it right here, Rob.
00:01:09.360 And Nancy, I'm coming to you right after this.
00:01:10.720 If you have this clip, Rob, there's a clip that says Israel, we are hitting Fordow.
00:01:14.500 Right here.
00:01:15.360 Go for it.
00:01:15.840 For the Iran, the possibility of an Iran deal, is the destruction or the dismantling of the Fordow nuclear enrichment center,
00:01:24.300 is that a prerequisite for a deal?
00:01:25.800 Is that a red line for you?
00:01:27.320 No, it's just something that people talk about having.
00:01:29.900 We're the only ones that have the capability to do it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to do it at all.
00:01:34.780 Yeah, we have the best military equipment in the world.
00:01:37.260 You see that with this fight.
00:01:39.240 We have planes that are undetectable, flying around like, you know, nobody's able to see them stealth.
00:01:46.720 You guys want to be stealthy tonight.
00:01:48.460 You know, you can be stealth, you'll never lose, right?
00:01:51.000 But these are incredible planes and weapons.
00:01:54.200 We have the best weapons in the world by far.
00:01:57.700 Nobody close.
00:01:58.720 And we're, I mean, certain countries take advantage of that.
00:02:03.720 Israel has incredible weaponry.
00:02:05.300 So, we'll see what happens.
00:02:08.000 I have not, I have not, I've been asked about it by everybody, but I haven't made a decision.
00:02:14.400 Israel National Security by Zetekhia Kanabi stated in an interview, Channel 12,
00:02:18.520 Israel operation against Iran will not end without damaging Fordow nuclear facility,
00:02:23.200 which is 90 meters underground and houses thousands of uranium enriched centrifuges.
00:02:28.460 He acknowledges, I don't know if the U.S. will join, noting ongoing talks with the U.S.,
00:02:33.320 but no effort to persuade them.
00:02:34.560 Some conventional wisdom suggests that U.S. bunker-busting bombs can destroy Fordow as
00:02:39.220 Israel lacks such munitions and strategic bombers.
00:02:42.900 That's the tricky question right there.
00:02:44.560 Go for it.
00:02:44.980 So, number one, I just want to say, I trust Donald Trump.
00:02:47.420 I don't think he's going to do anything without seeing it for himself.
00:02:50.960 The intel, he's not George W. Bush.
00:02:53.700 I mean, he knows what he's doing, knows what he's talking about.
00:02:56.960 He knows what he's seen.
00:02:58.080 And if they tell him, hey, this is what's happened, he's going to want to say, show me, right?
00:03:02.460 And so he won't make a decision, I believe, without all the facts and information in intel, number one.
00:03:07.180 Number two, I think, you know, Israel, their heaviest bunker-buster is 5,000 pounds.
00:03:14.140 Like, they've even admitted today, I believe, that they might need to go in using humans if the U.S. doesn't help.
00:03:20.480 We have, as you all know, the B-2 aircraft that are needed to drop heavier bunker-busters.
00:03:25.900 We have a 30,000-pound bunker-buster bomb, which would, you need a couple of them, do the trick.
00:03:32.960 We think it would do the trick.
00:03:34.740 You might, I don't know if you need anything more than that, but we have, definitely have equipment and munitions that would work that Israel might need to use.
00:03:41.940 And I'm okay with us doing that, if that's what Trump decides.
00:03:45.540 That doesn't mean we have troops on the ground.
00:03:47.300 I think we can do it without.
00:03:48.440 But lastly, deposit this idea.
00:03:51.400 If Iran, if we allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon, we either fight now or we fight later because Iran's going to drop that nuclear bomb on Israel or somewhere else, no matter what.
00:04:07.340 They've stated that.
00:04:08.400 They've told us what they're going to do.
00:04:10.020 So we're either going to war.
00:04:11.400 Now we're going to war later.
00:04:12.720 Let's do it without troops on the ground.
00:04:14.240 Much better, safer, for everybody because there's going to be war with Iran no matter what, whether it's right now or whether it's 10 years from now, 20 years from now, whenever that happens, they're going to drop a nuke and there's going to be World War III.
00:04:27.440 We avoid World War III with watching Israel.
00:04:30.140 Israel take the lead.
00:04:31.100 Do it.
00:04:32.120 If they need some of our missiles or bombs, I hope that we provide it and keep our troops out of it.
00:04:37.180 That's the ideal situation, in my opinion.
00:04:39.160 Tom, thoughts.
00:04:39.440 So I also trust President Trump, and the decision here is very straight.
00:04:47.620 It's like Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb.
00:04:51.040 Part one, Israel gets challenged or told, look, you got your military, you got everything like this, and you got a lot of the stuff from us.
00:04:58.260 You got some of the best stuff from us.
00:05:00.120 Go do it.
00:05:01.760 And I said, well, we need this and this.
00:05:03.740 Okay, well, you give that.
00:05:05.600 And that's where the slippery slope starts.
00:05:07.740 That's when the French were flailing in Vietnam, well, we'll provide some advisors.
00:05:12.040 Well, we'll provide limited assault infantry support.
00:05:15.780 Well, we'll do this.
00:05:16.560 And all of a sudden, you find yourself in it.
00:05:18.300 Where I don't want to be, I don't want to be boots on the ground.
00:05:21.540 I don't want to be in it.
00:05:22.560 But if we've got the best delivery mechanism, the B-2 delivery platform, and we've got the best bunker buster bombs,
00:05:31.140 although I've seen all the diagrams of this.
00:05:34.340 The bunker buster bombs, Tom.
00:05:35.660 Is that the one that goes, is three phases, one, two, three?
00:05:38.520 Right.
00:05:39.100 It is a very – can you break down to the audience what the bunker buster bomb –
00:05:43.660 It's designed to go – it's delayed fuses in multiple levels, and it's designed to build a hole for itself
00:05:53.040 and then have the bigger explosion down in the hole once it's there.
00:05:57.380 And the design is when you have an enemy deep underground and building bunkers,
00:06:03.600 you have to get through all the soil down to a level to provide a dramatic explosive concussion downward.
00:06:12.040 And what Representative Mace was just talking about is Israel's got 5,000-pound bunker busters.
00:06:19.540 Now, a 30,000-pound bunker buster, I mean, that's 15 tons of trouble that comes down, initial explosion, delayed fuses, and then the massive explosion.
00:06:30.540 Now, what if it doesn't do it?
00:06:33.140 What if it doesn't do it?
00:06:34.460 And you've got this tunnel that goes deep into the mountain.
00:06:38.440 See?
00:06:39.660 See?
00:06:40.240 They go penetrating in, and then – and now what have you got?
00:06:44.740 You've got – okay, who's going to be Luke Skywalker and fly to the center of the Death Star
00:06:48.460 and put the bomb down this long tube that goes down?
00:06:52.040 And so the question really is, is what if the bunker busters don't work?
00:06:57.220 What if these things are so deep?
00:06:59.120 Do you have to put basically elite infantry on the ground to get there and to go all the way through this thing?
00:07:06.400 Do you have to assault Fodor?
00:07:09.340 Israel has elite infantry.
00:07:11.580 Oh, yeah.
00:07:11.840 That's my point.
00:07:12.420 Yeah, and it's like support them.
00:07:13.660 But if the bunker busters don't work, Israel has to go in with elite ground troops to go down these tunnels,
00:07:21.860 penetrate the whole thing, and then do it down deep.
00:07:26.220 And that's where it gets nervous for me.
00:07:28.320 But it goes back to my first point.
00:07:29.980 You may not have nuclear weapons, and you've built this facility,
00:07:33.820 and one way or another this facility has to be compromised.
00:07:37.740 And I like the idea of helping and supporting.
00:07:41.820 I hate the idea of doing it.
00:07:44.440 Yeah, so that's so funny.
00:07:47.020 That is so weird.
00:07:47.740 So regardless, they need our weapons, but they got the soldiers.
00:07:51.100 They need our weapons, but they got enough of, you know.
00:07:54.300 They might need one of our pilots to fly the plane.
00:07:56.040 Yeah.
00:07:56.440 I was going to say, Pat, I don't even think it's going to happen.
00:07:58.540 But didn't they not elite—Vinny, help me out.
00:08:01.480 Didn't they get elite soldiers of their own, the equivalent of Green Berets, in,
00:08:06.600 and they created drone launch points?
00:08:08.980 Oh, yeah, guys.
00:08:10.260 Yeah, they had a factory, a drone factory in Iran.
00:08:12.340 In Iran.
00:08:12.760 Let's not forget.
00:08:13.380 And by the way, they put pagers in Hamas.
00:08:16.020 Guys, they are so advanced.
00:08:18.100 And I don't even think it needs to get to any troops, not even Israeli.
00:08:21.740 The technology they have from the air is absolutely ridiculous.
00:08:26.280 It's one of the best in the world.
00:08:28.420 It's just, if they have it, get it over with.
00:08:31.940 Knock out the freaking facilities.
00:08:33.860 I don't want any human beings dying the less as we can.
00:08:36.040 And just get this guy out.
00:08:37.440 We have to get this Khomeini guy out of power.
00:08:40.240 That type of mentality and that type of leadership, it's not helping.
00:08:43.620 Anybody that's saying death to America, it's only a matter of time
00:08:47.920 until that guy does something stupid to us.
00:08:49.880 I'm not worried about the people that say it.
00:08:51.560 I'm worried about the people that build capabilities to do it.
00:08:53.580 But mind you, though, that guy, that guy that's saying death to America,
00:08:56.820 how many of those people through the open border for four years
00:08:59.820 do you think are here, Nancy, waiting, waiting for that call?
00:09:04.140 Because a lot of them were giving cell phones.
00:09:05.640 They're all, go, here's money.
00:09:06.900 Go stay wherever you're staying.
00:09:08.220 Thomas Homan said, we're going to have something.
00:09:10.160 He said this from his mouth.
00:09:11.600 The borders are.
00:09:12.500 We have something that's going to be coming that's going to be worse than 9-11.
00:09:15.840 Sleeper cells can create low technology havoc on citizens.
00:09:19.860 That's horrifying.
00:09:20.400 Did you see this funny exchange when the guy, when the lady's asking,
00:09:24.060 so when are you going to be attacking Iran?
00:09:25.820 Did you see that one clip of Trump?
00:09:27.260 I love that.
00:09:27.280 Oh, this is where he's outside with the LMS.
00:09:28.880 Because I'm going to tell you.
00:09:29.900 Of course I'm going to tell you.
00:09:30.620 Oh, yeah, what time is it?
00:09:31.660 Watch this here.
00:09:32.640 ...about whether you are moving closer,
00:09:37.740 or you believe the U.S. is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities.
00:09:42.100 Where's your mindset on that?
00:09:43.280 I can't say that, right?
00:09:44.580 You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question.
00:09:46.760 Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?
00:09:51.060 And what time exactly, sir?
00:09:53.240 Sir, would you strike it?
00:09:54.980 Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch?
00:09:57.880 I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it.
00:09:59.980 You don't know.
00:10:00.680 I may do it.
00:10:01.300 I may not do it.
00:10:02.200 I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do.
00:10:03.520 He's so funny.
00:10:06.200 He's the best.
00:10:06.960 It makes you miss Donald Rumsfeld when Donald Rumsfeld...
00:10:11.020 No, we don't miss Donald Rumsfeld.
00:10:11.780 At all.
00:10:12.740 No.
00:10:13.020 Well, I don't miss him at all.
00:10:13.760 No, no, no.
00:10:14.120 I mean, I don't miss what he did.
00:10:17.740 But there was a moment what he said was actually kind of funny.
00:10:21.460 We were told, you know, they're going to be protesting against, you know, Americans and everything.
00:10:26.040 On Saturday, it's a big demonstration in the middle of the street.
00:10:28.900 He says, so a large group of al-Qaeda in the middle of the street at noon on Saturday are going to be demonstrating.
00:10:35.560 Yes, sir.
00:10:35.980 And he said, would you happen to have the coordinates?
00:10:39.380 That's actually pretty smart.
00:10:40.540 I don't know if Donald Rumsfeld's ever gotten a shout-out here, Tom.
00:10:42.940 That's ever.
00:10:43.400 You're the first to do it.
00:10:44.340 No, I'm not.
00:10:45.740 You've got to take ownership of it, folks.
00:10:47.900 I don't give him a shout-out for that.
00:10:49.520 I'm just saying in the annals of politicians at the microphone...
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