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- March 05, 2026
“California’s Socialist Confiscation” - Billionaires FLOCK To Florida As Wealth Wars Escalate
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186
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Miami Heat. Why does this matter? Okay, this is not a sports podcast, but the Miami Heat's phones
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are ringing off the hook as California billionaires look to drop nine figures on homes
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in the 305. And we're seeing the wealth tax conversation that is taking place. So
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Sadie Abunza Delgado has sold luxury real estate in South Florida for over three decades,
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typically to doctors or family business owners, ready to spend as much as $8 million on a home
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in the Miami area. Almost overnight that change, her phone started ringing with billionaires,
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titans of tech and finance looking to drop nine figures on waterfront properties. I got a
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flurry of requests and inquiries. Delgado has landed two billionaire clients recently,
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told Business Insider, had a lot of Zoom calls with people coming in January after the holidays,
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while the Florida migration among everyday people may have cooled following a pandemic
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era boom, billionaires are fueling the spree of massive purchases. They are largely looking to
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avoid a property California wealth tax, which Delgado said led to the busiest January she's ever
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experienced. Three other agents told Business Insider that inquiries picked up at the end of 2025
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and into 2026. We know Mark Zuckerberg just bought a $170 million home. If you want to pull that up,
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Rob, I think if I'm not mistaken, there is a Ken Griffin that's building a billion dollar home
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in compound in Palm Beach, and it's going to be the most expensive private residence in America
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with what he's building. And then you got Sergey Brin and... Citadel's building a massive building
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in Miami. Yeah. And by the way, Palantir also announced that they're moving to Miami as well. So
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Jeff, what are your thoughts on this story here? Can we stop calling it a tax? It's not a tax,
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it's confiscation. You know, what they're proposing. California. Thank you. It's not a
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tax. It's not. It is not a tax. Whatever you think about billionaires, and we should not be
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demonizing billionaires, whatever you think about billionaires, it's inherently unfair. And I'm going
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to use the word, it's un-American. You don't confiscate somebody's wealth just because they're
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wealthy. So you can understand why they're fleeing California and other places, not just California,
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Illinois. That's where Citadel was. They're in Chicago. Correct. So they're fleeing these blue
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states. And somebody who's done that before, I mean, I used to live in upstate New York. I moved
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to Florida for basically the same reasons, certainly not on that level. But you can understand where
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they're coming from because it's not a tax. It's not a matter of policy disagreements. It's a matter of
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philosophical disagreements. The government in California philosophically has shifted.
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It shifted to the point that it demonizes success. It demonizes people who are able to create wealth,
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essentially, which is what an economy actually needs, is wealth creation. It's no longer just
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about, hey, we need to raise some revenue for the government. There's a different element to it.
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And I think finally, some of these people who may have supported that in the past have realized that
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the worm has changed here. And this is something completely different. This is categorically
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different. This is not a tax. This is something completely different. Yeah. Yeah. I love the
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word. It is confiscation. It's confiscation. It's not what you earned. It's what you have.
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There's a big difference. You have a big year. You earn a lot. You pay taxes on that. We have a tax
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code. It's progressive. The higher it goes, the higher it goes. And all of a sudden, you hit a million
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dollars. And every dollar above that is 39 percent of the federal government. And plus whatever is in your
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state. This is, I don't like what you have after you've paid your taxes. And people need to think
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about it that way. That's so-called billionaire tax is confiscation after they have paid taxes,
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after they have paid it. So the only thing is jealousy. Oh, well, they've made too much. You want
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to take it? Or it's socialist confiscation. There's another word here, attraction, you know,
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and leadership. So attraction and leadership go hand in hand together in Florida. Attraction.
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Francis Suarez has probably one of the most economically changing tweets in American history.
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Wouldn't you say, Pat? How can I help? Yeah. And all of a sudden, there's a crypto conference in
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Miami and people realizing, wow, this is what you have to offer. Traffic's not perfect. Things aren't
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perfect. But you know what? You offer no income taxes. You offer a lot of other things.
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And Francis Suarez worked to cultivate that. So it was attraction and leadership. Then look what
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DeSantis did leading during COVID. So now Florida is attractive to people. And somehow that's a bad
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thing. And now you're shocked that millionaires are coming down here to buy, millionaires and
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billionaires are coming down to buy incredible places in an incredible state. It's a law of attraction
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and leadership set it up. Yeah. And so I, but please, please correct all your friends.
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Mark, you're the only one that lives in California. I'm the only one that lives in California. So tell us
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what's going on. You know, I would say to the point that you both made, it's absolutely right. And I just
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want to hit on that point. It's confiscation of property. But I think there's a big misconception by
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the public to how billionaires hold their wealth, because what it's really doing is it's forced
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liquidation of assets. And so when you look at, you know, a Jeff Bezos or an Elon Musk,
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you know, they don't just have billions of dollars of cashing in a bank that they can just like cut a
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check for. They have it in their stock of their company. Paper. And so, yeah, but not just paper
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in ownership. And so what they're really being forced to do is they're being forced to give up
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ownership of their company. And then that ownership is going to go to who? And so then that ownership
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gets democratized or it goes to people who don't know how to run or, or manage that ownership of
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those properties. So I think that's a, that's a really big problem. To your point though, Pat,
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yeah, billionaires are leaving. Friends of mine that are not billionaires, but even millionaires
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make, make millions per year. They're leaving right now as well. And the reason why is because
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it's very easy for the state of California to just turn a dial and bring it down to lower income
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people without even having to go back through another vote. And so I think that's really bad.
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And the last thing I'd say is kind of to the point that you said about attracting people.
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It's a carrot or a stick, right? We look at Dubai. I went to Dubai for the first time two years
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ago and I was blown away coming from California, like how nice the streets were and how new the
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buildings were. And they've done that by attracting talent, by giving you a good business climate,
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low taxes, things like that. Things like, things like Florida has done. And so it's catastrophic.
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Florida's lucky, I guess, New York and California are pushing the best of the best to them.
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But I want to say this to some of you guys that are buyers of big homes. You'll manek me and you'll
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say, Pat, I'm looking at a $12 million home in Boca. I'm looking at a $22 million home in
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Manalapan. If you're a bigger buyer, just keep this part of mind, a tip for you. When you're
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negotiating commissions, it is a different conversation to have versus, well, listen,
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I normally charge five and six, but for you, because we really like you, four and 5%. No,
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no. The way you negotiate, if you're buying a house that's above 10 million or above 20 million or
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above a hundred million, whatever the number may be, is you say, look, I don't know. Let's just say
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you want to buy a $50 million house. Don't negotiate rate because 4% on 50 million is what?
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$2 million commission. Rather say, I don't know how big of a house I'm buying. Are you
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willing to work with a flat fee of a half a million dollars? They don't like that. So
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remember the difference. You know how big of a house you want to buy. Don't tell them
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how big of a house you want to buy. Say I'm talking to a handful of different realtors and
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have a very simple agreement. If you're open to it, you help me find a property. It's a half
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a million dollar flat fee. So this is not a $700,000 house where it's five or 6% or
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million, $8 house. That's four and a half, 5%. No. Talk about a flat fee. And some of
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these guys will agree. Some of them won't agree. Some of them will agree to be able to
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say, I sold the house to Sergey Brin. I sold the house. So if you're somebody that's in
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that market. So the only question. And if you are Sergey Brin, don't let him trade on
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your name. You need privacy. Would you like me to bring the U-Haul? Yeah. I'm thankful
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for Pat giving us some free consulting here because now I know I have to negotiate my
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deal. No, but in all honesty, I mean, I grew up there and I love it there. And like my lifestyle
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is built there. But my daughter, my youngest daughter is going to graduate high school
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in a year. And there's a good chance we're probably going to move our tax residence. I
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have a ranch in Texas. I got a beautiful house in Mexico. Like I could just move my tax
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residence and there's probably a pretty good chance I might do that. And I don't want to.
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What are you looking at in Texas? Well, I have a ranch property in Dripping Springs
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outside of Austin. It's beautiful. Like I said, I have my house in Mexico that we could
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just go live at on the beach down there. You have choices. You make the right decisions
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where you and your family have a choice on what to do with that. And I don't want to.
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And I'm willing to pay a premium. I'm willing to pay a premium to stay there. I don't eat
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at McDonald's going back to McDonald's. I don't eat at McDonald's. I'd rather go get a
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steak. So I'm willing to pay a premium to live there, but there's only so much
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for premium to get your wealth. Give me a flipping break. See, you shouldn't lose a person
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like this. This is a good citizen, good for society, family. Why not keep them
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instead of pushing them to a different place? Well, if you, if you think about
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Florida as one of your options, let us know. I have a realtor that charges 7%,
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but it'll be a deal for you. It's only 6%. Hey, by the way, for those guys that are
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