Valuetainment - April 04, 2026


"Canada’s Spiritual War” - Bible ‘Hate Speech’ Ruling SPARKS Backlash


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

203.80937

Word Count

2,536

Sentence Count

140

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

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Canadians want to make quoting the bible a hate crime, and we're here to talk about it. Plus, we talk about the deep-rooted problem of moral relativism, and why it's a big deal.

Transcript

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Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
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00:00:30.000 Canada just, in 2025, I want to say October, maybe even earlier than that,
00:00:35.980 a couple guys, this guy right here, they started working on saying
00:00:39.160 some of the stuff in the Bible is hate speech.
00:00:42.520 Truly, some of the stuff in the Bible is hate speech.
00:00:44.700 And here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob.
00:00:46.520 In this case, the Bible, but there are other religious texts that say the same thing.
00:00:51.260 And somehow, constantly say that this is good faith.
00:00:53.400 I mean, clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful,
00:00:57.320 they should not be used.
00:00:58.100 In the Bible.
00:00:58.640 blasphemy or be a defense and there should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors the press charges
00:01:05.740 i just want to understand what your notion of good faith is in this context where
00:01:09.340 there are clearly yeah when you have a country without a constitution this is what happens
00:01:13.400 i mean they don't have a first amendment let me read this and then i'm going to come to you let
00:01:17.980 me read this and i'm going to come to you so you're hearing this okay so here we go canada
00:01:24.140 wants to make quoting the bible illegal this is the spectator two days ago easter's almost here
00:01:29.880 and canada's liberal government has chosen the sacred season to display its utter contempt
00:01:34.000 for christianity it's currently forcing through uh the outrageous bill c9 which could make it a
00:01:40.100 hate crime to quote from the sections of the bible more than 40 civil and religious groups have asked
00:01:45.100 that for the bill's language be clarified and its scope more carefully defined so their religious
00:01:49.980 texts would not be subject to hate crime legislation, but all in vain. After a hot
00:01:54.800 debate in the House of Commons, the liberals high-handedly ended a conservative filibuster.
00:02:00.760 In fact, fast-tracked the bill. It's now been sent to the Senate to decide if Canada is the
00:02:05.400 kind of a country that wants to turn quoting St. Paul into a criminal act. Ilan.
00:02:12.200 Yeah, again, Canada doesn't have, they have a bill of rights, but they don't have the First
00:02:15.660 Amendment in the way we do. I think you look at Canada during COVID, they were going after
00:02:19.500 churches like crazy. And again, I think this is bigger than politics. I think it's spiritual. I
00:02:24.300 think that Canada has an attack on truth across the board. The world is seeing an attack on truth
00:02:29.660 across the board. Tom has been touching on it. And I think it's a spiritual war. If you can
00:02:35.880 destroy the idea of gender, if you can destroy the idea of man having value, woman having value,
00:02:41.960 the sanctity of a child. Like, when you think about how out of control abortion is, all these
00:02:47.680 things and now they're attacking the very scripture that's meant to be spread to protect against those
00:02:52.540 evils they're doing it for a reason and uh that's the thing i fear most in the world and i think
00:02:57.960 people are met now with a binary anyone watching you're met with a binary choice now you're either
00:03:02.120 going to go down the path of moral relativism which will lead you to nihilism a complete
00:03:06.380 destruction of truth and it will leave you in a void that is empty a dark void it will lead to
00:03:11.620 depression we're seeing it it will lead to anxiety it'll lead to all the nihilistic behavior we're
00:03:15.900 seeing or you will head to a path of truth and i think the only light i see in all of this is
00:03:20.680 because of these blatant open attacks on christianity that we're not only seeing in
00:03:24.320 canada we've even seen it in our own country they've gone after churches in our own country
00:03:28.140 um and i think the only benefit to all this is that as that becomes so binary you really do have
00:03:33.880 a choice the choice is presented to you by god now you will either follow me or you will follow
00:03:38.280 that what what were you raised as i was uh born as jewish you're born as jewish when you become
00:03:44.300 a christian well i became an atheist for a while i went through a lot of stuff and then i i had a
00:03:49.980 friend who started telling me hey come to church visit me you know like just try it out i was
00:03:54.360 working on the show loki my friend took me to a monastery silent monastery for for uh monks
00:03:59.560 christian months catholic months and uh it was the first time that i felt at peace in a very long
00:04:04.520 time i've suffered from depression for most of my life i've suffered from anxiety i've drank too
00:04:09.300 much for a big part of my life and this was out of everything i've ever experienced in my life
00:04:13.700 That was the first time that I felt at peace inside.
00:04:16.440 I couldn't explain it.
00:04:17.540 Then I went to church one day and I cried.
00:04:19.640 I cried.
00:04:20.340 I was sitting there and I started crying.
00:04:21.680 I'm like, why am I crying here?
00:04:23.920 Like, what is going on with me?
00:04:24.980 What is the thing that's happening to me that's making me cry?
00:04:27.480 And I realized I've been carrying this burden.
00:04:29.340 You talk about it's not me.
00:04:30.560 It's not me.
00:04:30.980 It's not me.
00:04:31.600 I've been carrying this burden my whole life that it's me.
00:04:33.820 It's me.
00:04:34.340 It's me.
00:04:35.400 And I finally found a home where I was like, wow, this burden,
00:04:39.980 this relationship with something bigger than myself can finally be shared.
00:04:43.080 And I tell everyone this, there is nothing other than Christianity that will cure alcoholism.
00:04:48.460 There's nothing other than Christianity that will truly clear your depression or whatever you're going through.
00:04:54.960 Because it's a relationship with something bigger than yourself that you can take off yourself and put there.
00:05:00.160 And yeah, it's been tremendous for me.
00:05:02.320 I had a friend who, sorry, not to go on for a long time, but I had a friend who was like, what do you mean you believe in this now?
00:05:07.200 What's going on?
00:05:07.720 Because when you're raised Jewish, it's very hard for people to hear that you're also doing something like that.
00:05:13.080 And my Jewish identity is still important to me.
00:05:15.320 But I said, it makes me a better person.
00:05:17.140 So I don't care what anyone tells me.
00:05:19.240 I don't care what anyone believes about me.
00:05:20.940 It makes me a better person, and that's all that matters.
00:05:23.060 I love it. Good for you.
00:05:24.040 Adam, your thoughts on that story.
00:05:25.120 I love your story, and I wish that more stories like that were shared.
00:05:28.280 I think that Judaism and Christianity has a bond that should be unbreakable.
00:05:32.900 Without the Old Testament, there's no New Testament.
00:05:36.380 And look, the Crusades were fought between the Christians and the Muslims,
00:05:41.600 and the Jews were always in the middle
00:05:42.840 because they were always fighting over Jerusalem.
00:05:45.460 Jew-ru-slam for anybody that has a problem
00:05:48.000 with the Jews being in Jerusalem.
00:05:49.420 It's in the name, Judea, Jerusalem.
00:05:52.100 The Bible is the greatest book of all time.
00:05:54.320 It's the old version and the new version,
00:05:56.700 whatever version you subscribe to.
00:05:58.960 That book is the most important book
00:06:00.480 other than maybe the Declaration of Independence,
00:06:03.260 the United States Constitution.
00:06:04.540 We are here in America.
00:06:05.960 I love what you have to say.
00:06:07.440 I wish more people said that.
00:06:09.140 Jesus was, if not the greatest,
00:06:11.180 people of all time to walk
00:06:14.220 to earth. I get in arguments with my Jewish
00:06:16.100 friends. I say, why don't you have a little more
00:06:18.060 respect for Jesus? They go,
00:06:20.020 I don't believe he was God. I said, that doesn't mean you shouldn't have
00:06:22.160 respect for him.
00:06:23.980 He was a Jewish rabbi
00:06:25.760 who hung out with only Jewish
00:06:28.200 people. His mother,
00:06:30.220 Jewish, father Jewish, all the wise, everyone
00:06:32.100 around him was Jewish. He was
00:06:33.880 questioning authority, questioning establishment.
00:06:36.300 Well, his father wasn't Jewish.
00:06:40.040 But go ahead.
00:06:40.480 Go ahead, finish. I'm sorry.
00:06:42.280 Don't pull a Tom right now.
00:06:44.740 The reality is we need to work closer together
00:06:46.920 because we're better together than we are apart.
00:06:48.840 There's a crazy segment of the world
00:06:51.000 that some people don't want to name,
00:06:52.820 and that crazy segment of the world,
00:06:54.740 whether it's 1% or 2%,
00:06:56.360 it's millions of people, and that is called radical Islam.
00:07:00.040 The story started out with Nigeria, did it not?
00:07:03.180 What's going on in Nigeria?
00:07:04.340 I didn't even know this story.
00:07:05.880 Didn't Trump bomb Nigeria a couple months ago?
00:07:09.000 Did he not?
00:07:09.680 didn't you have a shirt he didn't bomb he sent troops okay i thought i thought that they sent
00:07:14.060 troops yeah they said they're sending ground troops i don't know i didn't see so but i thought
00:07:17.600 he did do something in nigeria but i genuine question genuine question don't come at me
00:07:21.960 why should we care about nigeria as americans what do you mean why should we care about nigeria
00:07:27.260 there's so much going on in the world because iran gaza israel is there christian sudan are
00:07:32.440 you actually is it haiti oracle or no i'm asking because these are defenseless christians that are
00:07:38.220 just in churches you're okay praying to hold on you asked me let me finish they're they are
00:07:43.660 worshiping jesus christ and they are all getting massacred and they have nothing they have nobody
00:07:51.160 whatever all these guys are so well islam it's mostly fulani's i swap uh and boko haram is a
00:07:57.920 is an islamic terrorist organization should we just negotiate with them do you think they'll
00:08:02.860 listen or do we have to do something about it no we have to go in and help them but no because
00:08:06.900 nobody's helping them. Okay, so are you okay
00:08:08.860 in Nigeria having
00:08:10.860 American boots on the ground? 100%.
00:08:13.340 So, but you don't want American
00:08:15.080 boots on the ground in Iran, I thought you said.
00:08:17.020 I don't want, wait, why, are they
00:08:19.100 defenseless? Wait, wait, wait, time out.
00:08:21.240 You can't compare
00:08:22.200 defenseless Christians in
00:08:24.760 Nigeria that are in
00:08:26.020 wooden
00:08:28.020 stone buildings praying to God and getting
00:08:30.880 massacred. They're just out there by themselves.
00:08:32.620 Can't you argue that they're doing the exact same thing in Iran?
00:08:34.880 Defenseless people praying to God?
00:08:36.340 the largest growing religion in Iran is what?
00:08:41.660 Christianity.
00:08:42.280 Christianity.
00:08:42.740 So there's innocent Christians being killed there, too.
00:08:45.280 So where do you draw the line on boots on the ground?
00:08:47.300 This is two completely different.
00:08:48.900 I don't think it is.
00:08:49.640 I think it's two completely different things, Adam,
00:08:51.480 because they've been for 47 years under this thing.
00:08:55.660 It's not just America.
00:08:57.360 We're going in, and we went in because Marco Rubio
00:09:00.540 and all this type of stuff.
00:09:01.760 This is a completely different one.
00:09:03.040 Adam, I'll answer it for you.
00:09:05.540 I'm going to come to you in one sec.
00:09:06.340 I just want to understand where you draw the line on boots on the ground.
00:09:09.660 We had boots on the ground in Venezuela.
00:09:10.800 By the way, this is a very good sequencing of questions that you're asking.
00:09:15.360 And I think, you know, this exchange right here is what leads to a lot of the arguments.
00:09:22.340 And there's leaks in both sides of the argument.
00:09:24.960 I actually love this exchange that just happened right now.
00:09:27.320 Because it makes us actually think, why are we for in Nigeria but not for Iran?
00:09:34.460 Okay?
00:09:34.940 why are we for helping out Gaza but not helping out Iranians?
00:09:41.760 Why are we for helping out Iranians, saving them, but not the people in Gaza?
00:09:46.480 Both sides make the argument in a very – it leads to a leak in the argument of both sides.
00:09:52.900 If you actually think about it, it truly leads to having a leak.
00:09:55.780 Like the guys are like, yeah, you know, it's for Gaza and the Palestine.
00:09:59.080 It's not fair what they're doing.
00:10:00.000 Israel's doing a genocide.
00:10:01.520 But they're quiet about Iran.
00:10:02.800 Oh, yeah.
00:10:03.160 And the Christians are sometimes, yeah, Iran, we got it.
00:10:06.880 And it's like, but quite about God.
00:10:08.680 It's a very, very valid argument.
00:10:10.380 I wonder what you're going to say here yourself.
00:10:12.200 Well, what I was going to say is there are certain just unfortunate realities.
00:10:15.760 The threat from Iran to our ground troops is significantly,
00:10:19.300 and the long-term consequences of a ground invasion in Iran
00:10:22.200 and how long it would take and everything,
00:10:23.800 is fundamentally different than Fulani tribes.
00:10:26.800 So you have to also look at, you know,
00:10:29.040 how hard is it to solve the problem and protect people
00:10:31.980 versus the benefit.
00:10:34.640 So it's a cost-benefit thing.
00:10:36.080 It's not to say that, you know,
00:10:37.700 when there were 30,000, 40,000 people
00:10:39.440 being massacred in Iran
00:10:40.540 during the uprising that happened,
00:10:42.900 I would say that at that exact moment,
00:10:44.920 if people were making the argument,
00:10:46.100 this is an ending,
00:10:46.880 we need to get boots on the ground,
00:10:47.900 we need to cut this off
00:10:49.180 before millions of people potentially die,
00:10:51.660 you have an argument there.
00:10:52.740 But what's happening in Nigeria
00:10:53.620 is just a longstanding,
00:10:54.920 continued massacre of people
00:10:56.760 based on their religion.
00:10:57.960 And you either look at the United States
00:10:59.640 and you go, we're 100% isolationist.
00:11:02.540 We have no reason to be involved.
00:11:04.240 Or you look at the United States
00:11:05.340 kind of like a superhero.
00:11:06.840 And you say, look, we're superheroes.
00:11:08.080 We do have an obligation in the world
00:11:09.720 to do what's right sometimes, even if it's hard.
00:11:12.580 So Nigeria is a place where we can go in
00:11:14.700 with a high benefit to cost compared to Iran at first
00:11:19.100 as a starting point.
00:11:19.880 That doesn't mean, I'm not saying police the world,
00:11:21.760 but I'm saying when there's something
00:11:22.960 like the genocide we see in Nigeria,
00:11:24.480 there should be some controlled involvement
00:11:27.860 to protect them over there.
00:11:29.280 Yeah. My ultimate point was this. I'm not an isolationist and I'm not a complete interventionist.
00:11:35.260 You know, the whole conversation of America can't police the world. America's not the world's police. Really?
00:11:42.300 Who is? Because if America doesn't have the badge policing the world, who do you want policing the world?
00:11:48.460 You want China policing the world? You want Russia running the world? You want the Islamic Republic of Iran running the world?
00:11:54.160 so in my opinion America should be the policeman of the world we might pull out a NATO NATO
00:12:01.140 hey EU let me know how you're going to work without American funding so as much as we don't
00:12:05.560 want to intervene in every single conflict as much as we don't want boots on the ground
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