Valuetainment - December 16, 2025


＂Candace Owens Is A BAD Friend＂ - Erika Kirk & Candace SHOCKING Sit Down Over Murder Theories Chaos


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Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

192.41693

Word Count

5,420

Sentence Count

539

Misogynist Sentences

33

Hate Speech Sentences

13


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Candace and Erica Kirk have a private in person meeting on Monday, December 15th. Will it be recorded? Is it a good or bad move by both of them to have a meeting in private, and is it even possible that it is recorded?

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00:00:00.000 Next story I want to get to is Candace Owens and Erica Kirk.
00:00:03.160 Erica Kirk tweets out yesterday that, Rob, if you want to pull that up,
00:00:08.880 she tweets yesterday that the two are having a meeting together, I believe.
00:00:13.580 Rob, you said it's today the 15th?
00:00:15.440 Yep.
00:00:15.960 Okay, so Candace Owens and I are meeting for a private in-person discussion on Monday, December 15th.
00:00:20.840 Candace and I have agreed that public discussions, live streams, and tweets are on hold until after this meeting.
00:00:26.000 I look forward to a productive conversation.
00:00:27.700 So can you pull this tweet up?
00:00:29.760 I want to know what the comment section says because I retweeted it and I said the following.
00:00:36.040 I said, if you just go to my account, yeah, and then we'll read the tweet that hers.
00:00:40.360 I said, this is the right move but long overdue.
00:00:42.460 Respect to both women for agreeing to meet.
00:00:44.400 Hoping this visit leads to a real solution that protects Charlie's decade plus of hard work influencing and shaping America's youth.
00:00:52.620 Can we see how the market is reacting to that comment?
00:00:55.160 Can you click on it?
00:00:56.220 Go a little bit lower.
00:00:57.060 Okay, what does Candace deserve any respect?
00:01:00.580 Who is that?
00:01:01.180 Dave Rubin.
00:01:01.880 Who is Dave Rubin?
00:01:03.560 I'm giving him a hard time.
00:01:04.460 Of course we know who Dave Rubin is.
00:01:05.600 All right, next.
00:01:06.520 Aaron Wexler.
00:01:07.720 Respect to both women who is a horrible take.
00:01:10.220 You and I both spoke for 20 minutes at Charlie's Turning Point.
00:01:12.980 Adam, is that your friend?
00:01:14.340 Aaron Wexler.
00:01:15.980 You are smart than a peony man.
00:01:17.720 Not kind of like Candace for torturing Erica's and spreading the shit.
00:01:19.880 Okay, so got it.
00:01:20.660 So that's where she's at with it.
00:01:22.780 Bad take.
00:01:23.500 Never wrestle with pigs.
00:01:24.600 You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
00:01:27.140 George Bernard Shaw was a massive socialist but go a little bit lower.
00:01:30.260 When you realize the media tour didn't go as planned and you set up to sit down.
00:01:34.160 Okay.
00:01:34.800 So the position there is on the other side.
00:01:36.320 Erica currently represents what people want Charlie to be which led to his death.
00:01:40.620 Candace represents who Charlie was when he was alive.
00:01:44.520 There is room for both but I get the sense that would have Erica continuing to look more inauthentic.
00:01:50.440 Candace needs to protect Charlie's life.
00:01:52.360 She's the only one keeping it alive.
00:01:54.000 Okay, so we know that's good.
00:01:55.140 So, so far it's fair.
00:01:56.220 50-50 comments on both sides.
00:01:58.120 Classy move by Erica.
00:01:59.080 That being said, I'll never watch Candace again.
00:02:00.860 So disrespectful.
00:02:01.700 I don't care what the world thinks about a grieving widow until you experience the loss of someone to you in a horrific manner such as this.
00:02:10.540 You'll never understand.
00:02:11.380 Agree insane.
00:02:12.120 They hadn't already been communicating.
00:02:13.520 Erica has clearly taken very bad advice.
00:02:16.440 She is torching her organization on legacy.
00:02:18.740 How about we stop pretending that they are searching for truth and what happened to Charlie is equal destroying his legacy because it's not.
00:02:24.360 Okay.
00:02:24.880 So can you go to Erica's tweet by herself, not mine.
00:02:29.060 Just go to hers by herself.
00:02:30.580 Let's go a little bit lower.
00:02:31.580 Can you go a little bit lower?
00:02:33.420 Can't y'all just call each other?
00:02:35.020 Why does it have to be such a big deal?
00:02:36.860 Hopefully you serve her with papers during the meeting.
00:02:39.420 If y'all are meeting in private, why did y'all make it public information?
00:02:42.720 Keep going a little bit lower.
00:02:44.120 Even Biden got involved.
00:02:45.140 Now she's not busy and her husband is allowing her to do something that day.
00:02:48.440 Interesting.
00:02:49.460 Just be careful that you don't overshare.
00:02:51.460 She will spin it against you later.
00:02:53.360 I'm sorry.
00:02:53.940 You have to deal with her and any of the awful rumors.
00:02:58.100 Peace is the prize.
00:02:59.180 Jack Posobiec.
00:02:59.960 The meeting should be recorded.
00:03:02.080 The way if Candace tries to mischaracterize anything, there's a record to prove.
00:03:06.700 Okay.
00:03:07.520 So question one, what do you think are the chances that this is being recorded by both sides?
00:03:16.120 Very good question.
00:03:17.680 What do you think?
00:03:18.600 Very high.
00:03:19.360 Let's put it this way.
00:03:20.240 When they come to the meeting, do you think it is agreed on who will be in the room and
00:03:27.100 that everybody is frisked and going to a room that they feel comfortable knowing nothing
00:03:31.640 is being recorded?
00:03:32.500 You would hope so.
00:03:33.360 If it is getting recorded, that's one thing.
00:03:35.660 If not, yes.
00:03:36.460 Okay.
00:03:36.860 Who chose the room?
00:03:39.620 Erica.
00:03:40.360 If Erica chose the room, Candace can say the room is being recorded because somebody
00:03:44.320 put something in there.
00:03:45.080 Yep.
00:03:45.520 Right?
00:03:45.720 So let's just kind of put it on there.
00:03:47.320 But Tom, if you're going into this, are you automatically assuming that the opposing
00:03:52.960 side is recording the conversation?
00:03:54.540 A hundred percent.
00:03:55.180 And then I'm going to take out a phone and I'll put it there and I'm saying, just to make
00:03:59.140 sure that we keep each other, you know, our memories, for the sake of both memories being
00:04:05.780 good, I'm going to record as well.
00:04:08.160 May I?
00:04:08.520 So would you say it publicly so it's a known thing or would you record and not tell?
00:04:14.240 I would say it publicly.
00:04:16.820 You know, if you're going to have, I mean, let's just look at media.
00:04:19.460 If you have a media interview, they're recording it nowadays.
00:04:22.400 They all record it.
00:04:23.340 And I would just say, would you mind if I recorded this so that we both, both of our
00:04:27.520 memories can be, if we have any confusion, we can go back.
00:04:30.920 And they'll probably say yes.
00:04:32.160 And I hit record and I say, thank you for allowing me to record.
00:04:35.380 We're sitting here on Wednesday the 15th at nine o'clock.
00:04:37.720 So I put the date right on it.
00:04:39.280 That's very normal if you're having a media interview and you think maybe there could
00:04:44.680 be an edge to it.
00:04:45.680 So I would, I'm about a hundred percent that they would both be recording and made each
00:04:51.460 other aware.
00:04:51.840 Okay.
00:04:52.120 So, okay.
00:04:52.700 So now let's go through the next part.
00:04:54.580 How do you think this meeting is going to go?
00:04:56.860 Do you think the meeting is going to go?
00:04:58.800 And afterwards, all the argument, all the accusations from both sides are gone.
00:05:05.000 Do you think it stops?
00:05:06.660 Do you think it settles?
00:05:08.040 Do you think it continues?
00:05:08.980 I'm very, very interested and curious.
00:05:13.140 I think I'm interested to see, is Candace going to like reveal stuff to Erica that she
00:05:19.900 doesn't think that she knows yet?
00:05:21.380 Like if Candace has some stuff that she hasn't revealed yet, and maybe she's like, hey, listen,
00:05:25.880 just to let you know, this person that's in the organization, X, Y, Z.
00:05:30.080 All right.
00:05:30.300 Because I think Erica's angle is going to be like, hey, listen, this is hurting.
00:05:34.000 You're not helping.
00:05:35.020 She's going to, she's going to extend the, the, the olive branch.
00:05:37.640 But as we know, guys, Candace's show has to keep going.
00:05:41.520 It has to continue.
00:05:42.420 The drama can't stop.
00:05:44.400 You know what I'm saying?
00:05:44.880 If you go, here's my question.
00:05:46.920 Do you think there's going to be a clause where they can't speak about anything that
00:05:50.280 happened in the meeting?
00:05:51.460 Do you think Erica is going to say, listen, Candace, we know you have your show.
00:05:55.100 Vice versa.
00:05:56.180 None of us could bring out X, Y, Z.
00:05:58.020 You can't bring up this, this, and this.
00:06:00.660 Where is the premise that that commitment will be kept?
00:06:02.700 That's exactly, that's what I'm saying.
00:06:04.240 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:05.020 So you don't think it's going to happen.
00:06:06.180 And not, not only do I not think that premise will be kept, I don't think Candace would agree
00:06:09.940 to that standard.
00:06:10.500 I agree.
00:06:10.900 I agree.
00:06:11.320 I don't think, I think she's going to go to George or is going to say, hell no.
00:06:14.660 No way we would agree to that on, on what can be because no.
00:06:18.080 So to me, who is taking a bigger risk in a meeting and who is being the leader and taking
00:06:23.180 a, calling for the meeting?
00:06:24.780 Erica's taking a bigger risk.
00:06:25.860 Eric's taking a bigger risk and being the leader, taking a meeting?
00:06:28.500 Erica.
00:06:29.120 Erica is.
00:06:29.680 Yeah, because I mean, what does Candace have to lose?
00:06:31.740 Candace is going to still talk about it on her show.
00:06:34.280 Okay.
00:06:34.920 So can you go to the Barry Weiss, because you just had that clip up, Rob.
00:06:39.240 Which one is this, Rob?
00:06:40.220 This is her.
00:06:41.040 During the town hall, Barry Weiss asked Erica Kirk about the conspiracy theories regarding
00:06:47.080 Charlie Kirk's death and she addresses it.
00:06:48.460 Okay, go for it.
00:06:49.340 And yet there are a huge number of conspiracy theories, you might call them brain rot, that
00:06:55.600 are spreading right now online about the actual story behind the reality.
00:07:01.380 One, people say that Tyler Robinson was actually a MAGA Republican.
00:07:06.860 Or two, some people say you were actually a Mossad agent sitting in front of me and you
00:07:12.800 were Charlie's handler and Israel killed Charlie.
00:07:16.520 Right.
00:07:16.640 Other people say that a number of men in the crowd were wearing maroon T-shirts and this
00:07:21.720 signifies that his killing was an elite airborne operation, whatever that means.
00:07:25.800 They say that the rings on your fingers, which are my kids' initials, my wedding band,
00:07:33.060 the medal of freedom, my engagement ring.
00:07:35.880 But apparently they symbolize some kind of secret plot.
00:07:39.020 There's also a new theory that Egyptian aircraft have been tracking you.
00:07:43.200 Yeah, I was going to say, don't forget about the Egyptian planes.
00:07:44.520 What is going on?
00:07:45.640 Why are there so many conspiracies spreading about what seems to be a pretty open and shut case?
00:07:52.580 This is the first time that we have seen evil on display where we have social media
00:07:59.300 at our fingertips.
00:08:01.840 Something so evil that happened, people are wanting answers immediately.
00:08:06.620 They are wanting to figure out how to wrap their mind around this.
00:08:15.040 Egyptian planes.
00:08:16.440 Do you believe that Tyler Robinson murdered your husband?
00:08:21.780 Yes, I do.
00:08:23.340 Why do you think it is so hard for so many people to believe that reality?
00:08:31.860 Because it's too simple.
00:08:35.420 Again, everyone always has to think there's more to the story.
00:08:38.580 Well, sometimes there's not.
00:08:39.880 I've seen the autopsy report.
00:08:41.860 I've seen our case pulled together.
00:08:43.400 Can I say one thing?
00:08:44.920 And here's my thing.
00:08:48.720 God, I pray for her.
00:08:50.660 We pray for their kids.
00:08:51.640 No joke.
00:08:52.980 I pray for them all the time.
00:08:55.320 And there's one thing, because she's getting a lot of flack with Bobby.
00:08:58.100 You're doing town halls on CBS.
00:09:00.660 Which, by the way, Rob, the guy that was asking Charlie the question before Charlie got shot,
00:09:05.260 right when he got shot, that guy went up there.
00:09:07.300 And what a crappy hit piece that he did.
00:09:09.300 I haven't.
00:09:09.680 Did you see what this guy did?
00:09:11.040 No, what happened?
00:09:11.500 You know the guy that was asking Charlie the question about the shooting and the mass shooting
00:09:14.300 and whatever.
00:09:15.500 Why would CBS?
00:09:16.860 Because, by the way, I heard, allegedly, they all knew all the questions.
00:09:19.860 They knew what they were going to ask.
00:09:20.900 This guy is a complete liberal lefty.
00:09:23.680 Look at what he goes up and asks a widow of the guy that you were asking a question when her husband was shot.
00:09:30.060 Go ahead.
00:09:30.320 Hi, there.
00:09:36.640 Erica, I want to tell you how much I appreciate your calls for peace and unity.
00:09:41.600 And I'm likewise horrified by the people in my so-called camp who were cheering about Charlie's murder.
00:09:49.020 I believe that they stoke the flames of violence.
00:09:51.620 Ready?
00:09:52.320 But even worse is when powerful, influential people on either side of the aisle stoke the flames.
00:09:57.360 Shifting.
00:09:57.680 When they do it, the flames can become an inferno.
00:10:01.040 He's going to Trump.
00:10:01.780 And this leads me to Donald Trump, the most powerful and influential person on earth who has more responsibility than anyone else to put the flames out.
00:10:09.140 I think Barry has to do that.
00:10:09.800 Just last month, President Trump called on six Democratic lawmakers to be tried for sedition, which he clarified was punishable by death.
00:10:18.320 He then reposted a simple message.
00:10:21.720 Hang them.
00:10:23.360 I think that you've been making strikes to bring peace to our country.
00:10:26.160 And that turning point has been asking Democrats.
00:10:28.660 So you can stop her out.
00:10:29.560 And then he goes on, Pat, to ask, like, condemn.
00:10:31.900 The conversation is about this, about, you know, conspiracies and all that stuff.
00:10:36.040 And you're going to bring the guy that was asking her husband a question to try to condemn Trump.
00:10:40.580 They can't help themselves to make it about Trump.
00:10:43.100 But the people that are like, you know, leave Erica alone.
00:10:46.680 And I just want to say something.
00:10:48.340 When you're in front of a camera all the time, you have to know, if you don't want the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
00:10:55.040 This is 2025.
00:10:56.640 People are going to judge.
00:10:57.800 Look at us.
00:10:58.820 I work for Masad, Tom's, whatever, Katarma.
00:11:02.240 You're going to get it.
00:11:03.380 You're going to get it.
00:11:04.380 But at some point, it's like people are analyzing this.
00:11:07.660 And it's the talking, the looking up to heaven.
00:11:11.360 It's like, and by the way, if you're going to cry all the time, with all due respect, take your makeup off.
00:11:16.040 Take your makeup off.
00:11:17.600 And it's like, if you don't want it, stay away from the camera.
00:11:21.360 Okay?
00:11:22.000 And I get it.
00:11:22.840 You went from the wife.
00:11:24.420 Now you're the CEO and the chair.
00:11:25.920 Like, that's a huge jump.
00:11:27.680 And I just have one question, Tom.
00:11:29.200 Real talk, Pat.
00:11:30.060 And you guys are bosses.
00:11:31.660 You guys know what the hell.
00:11:32.460 Now, can someone's wife just out of nowhere just become a CEO and know how to run a company of this magnitude?
00:11:38.560 This is, by the way, this isn't a rinky-dick mom and pop shop.
00:11:41.860 This is turning point.
00:11:42.840 They voted for her, buddy.
00:11:44.820 They voted for her.
00:11:45.960 Yeah.
00:11:46.340 What does she know about being a CEO of a company?
00:11:48.540 Well, I'm just asking.
00:11:49.900 I don't know.
00:11:51.080 Wouldn't the board of directors be able to make that decision?
00:11:54.140 Adam, I have no idea.
00:11:55.580 All I'm saying is, that's like Michelle Obama.
00:11:58.760 Everybody's like, Michelle's the best.
00:12:00.260 She was the wife of the president.
00:12:01.760 She didn't do anything.
00:12:03.300 She didn't accomplish anything.
00:12:04.960 She's the president.
00:12:06.320 He was the president.
00:12:07.200 I think we're losing sight of this conversation.
00:12:11.400 So, Candace Owens is meeting with Erica Kirk.
00:12:13.800 Erica Kirk is meeting with Candace.
00:12:15.300 Why?
00:12:16.920 Why are they meeting?
00:12:19.000 What does Erica owe Candace?
00:12:20.980 What does Candace owe Erica?
00:12:22.980 That's the question I have.
00:12:24.340 The reason they're meeting is because Erica wants to go confront Candace and be like, you're freaking lying about everything.
00:12:35.200 And you've said publicly, Miss Owens, that if I wanted you to stop, you would stop.
00:12:42.940 But you didn't stop.
00:12:45.340 You kept going.
00:12:46.700 You kept pushing.
00:12:48.340 So, she's being labeled as fake, as a paid actor.
00:12:53.420 How many of you people out there have had your significant other murdered in front of you, in front of everybody, and you've had to deal with the public discourse and condemnation and judgment, and you had to show up on screen, look your best, act your best, defend your husband, defend your company.
00:13:11.260 And you had to keep it together.
00:13:13.080 What have you done with your life?
00:13:15.540 So, all the people that are condemning Erica Kirk, F you.
00:13:20.800 At the very least, she is the wife of a murdered man.
00:13:24.960 And now the fatherless wife of two kids.
00:13:29.760 So, I have a special rule when it comes to people who have been murdered or killed.
00:13:35.200 Don't make an enemy of their wife or significant other.
00:13:38.400 That's pretty basic.
00:13:39.320 That's just sort of basic stuff.
00:13:42.780 Don't start attacking the widow.
00:13:45.820 Huh.
00:13:46.580 In fact, and I very rarely quote the Torah, but my friend Rabbi Bunny sent me this.
00:13:51.580 He said, you should know this.
00:13:53.040 The Torah says this.
00:13:54.180 You shall not afflict any widow or orphan child.
00:13:58.180 If you afflict them in any way, and they cry to me, I will surely hear their crime.
00:14:03.560 And my anger shall burn hot, and I will kill you with the sword, and your wives shall be widows, and your children orphans.
00:14:10.640 Is Candace really helping Charlie's legacy?
00:14:13.660 Is she really there to console and comfort and support Erica?
00:14:17.020 Or is she burning this bitch down?
00:14:19.700 Because that, to me, is what this is.
00:14:21.300 I've said the whole thing all along.
00:14:23.580 Candace Owens is a bad friend.
00:14:26.300 She's a smart person.
00:14:27.620 She's sharp.
00:14:28.240 She's intuitive.
00:14:29.220 She's the gaslighter and chief of the world right now.
00:14:31.560 And apparently, she's an incredible detective.
00:14:34.660 But she's a bad friend.
00:14:36.220 Because if Charlie was looking down, whose side do you think Charlie would be on?
00:14:40.860 His wife?
00:14:42.080 His children?
00:14:43.360 His organization?
00:14:44.740 His closest friends?
00:14:46.400 Or to his friend, Candace Owens?
00:14:48.820 To me, it's absolute BS what she's done, and she will be able to pay the price at some point.
00:14:54.020 Tom?
00:14:57.460 I don't quite understand why they're getting together.
00:15:00.920 I mean, that's just my, it's like, if both sides, if Erica and Turning Point want everything to calm down, don't you just kind of let it roll?
00:15:11.760 I mean, how many critics have I sat in offices, Pat, that criticize you for various things?
00:15:19.840 Like anybody trying to build a company, you weren't special in that moment.
00:15:24.360 Every business leader has got their enemies.
00:15:26.440 Enemies from competitors.
00:15:28.260 Enemies from people that come work for you and it doesn't work out.
00:15:30.920 They're all there.
00:15:32.300 And you either give them, you know what you do?
00:15:35.300 You can make a crisis bigger by treating it like a crisis, Vinny.
00:15:39.080 You can make something too big by treating it too big.
00:15:42.860 And Pat used to say, listen, I've got no quarrel with them.
00:15:46.640 I've got a business to run.
00:15:47.780 I've got things to do.
00:15:49.160 Let's move on and let it go.
00:15:51.120 Now, if they stole from us, there are procedures and stuff that we can go take care of it.
00:15:56.680 But if it's just going around and around, you can make the merry-go-round stop by not spinning it.
00:16:02.260 And so I don't know what Turning Point's motivation is here to say, attention, please, attention, please.
00:16:14.620 It's like bringing more attention to it.
00:16:16.840 We will not be tweeting for two days.
00:16:19.040 We will be meeting together at an undisclosed location.
00:16:22.520 Now that Cheney's gone, we can use it or something.
00:16:26.040 I'm being a little ridiculous.
00:16:27.520 But I don't understand.
00:16:28.820 But Tommy, this stops – Rob, wasn't today supposed to be the live stream of Turning Point USA?
00:16:35.640 So maybe they were like, somebody needs to talk to her because she was going to reveal something.
00:16:38.980 I mean, how do we know?
00:16:39.900 Vinny, anytime, anyplace, anywhere, except not anytime, anyplace, anywhere.
00:16:44.700 What that is, today was the anytime, anyplace, anywhere.
00:16:47.900 Of course.
00:16:48.240 This is what Turning Point USA offered was December 15th, the live stream in Phoenix.
00:16:52.440 So what's changed on Candice's end between then and today, where she wasn't available, it conflicted with her schedule, and now she is available.
00:16:59.880 Dude, she's a YouTuber.
00:17:01.740 She's a podcaster.
00:17:02.720 This is her job.
00:17:03.500 She has nothing else going on.
00:17:05.200 She's very good at it.
00:17:06.640 This is her job.
00:17:08.500 Hey, I'm able to make it.
00:17:10.060 Why?
00:17:10.320 Because I have to do my show?
00:17:12.340 I mean, the show that you talk about this nonstop?
00:17:15.620 None of this makes sense.
00:17:17.080 And Candice is just sitting there being like, all eyes on me.
00:17:20.100 She's like, Tupac out here.
00:17:21.300 What do you think of that?
00:17:22.560 With what?
00:17:23.160 The meeting.
00:17:26.140 What's going to come out of this?
00:17:27.100 Yeah, I mean, I got a lot of people that are saying, you know, why are they meeting?
00:17:31.180 This is a waste of time.
00:17:32.140 Erica doesn't need to sit down with all this stuff.
00:17:34.400 Diplomacy is nasty sometimes.
00:17:36.420 Sometimes you have to sit down with somebody that, you know, they hate you or they're making life a living hell,
00:17:43.700 and you have to find a way to talk to one another.
00:17:46.780 You know, Lincoln used to say, I beat an enemy by turning them into a friend.
00:17:51.080 Now, here's the problem.
00:17:52.920 Is that possible with Candice?
00:17:55.460 I don't know.
00:17:56.200 Is that going to work with Candice?
00:17:58.440 Is Candice going to be able to get the next story to go on for three months that she can really drive attention to?
00:18:07.100 She says she'll find something to go after.
00:18:10.140 Would she be willing to do that?
00:18:11.880 I don't know.
00:18:12.360 Now, all I'm saying is I'm glad they're having a meeting, and let's see where it goes.
00:18:16.460 Because quite frankly, what matters to me is the following, okay?
00:18:20.800 Let me kind of go through priorities and what should be the priority of everybody watching this.
00:18:26.860 What matters the most to you?
00:18:28.240 To me, God is who I fear the most, family, who my job, God chose me as their father, and God chose me as their husband to lead.
00:18:39.820 Number three, country where I choose to raise my family in.
00:18:43.960 America is the greatest country in the world.
00:18:46.120 I'm here because the values and principles this country was founded on, and I like to keep it that way.
00:18:51.940 And then the state you choose to live in, which we chose to live in, Florida, we like the values of this state, and we're going to fight to make sure it stays this way.
00:19:01.120 And then the industry you're going through.
00:19:03.840 And to me, in that order, if you go through family, kids, values, principles, there was a man named Charlie Kirk who was the example for young men.
00:19:15.420 And tell me anybody outside of Charlie the last 10 years that if you have a 12-year-old son, you would say, listen to that guy outside of God, outside of Bible, outside of Jesus, outside of yourself as a father setting the example.
00:19:28.500 Tell me who else you could say.
00:19:29.400 If my son followed that guy, I'm okay with.
00:19:31.120 Give me somebody about Charlie.
00:19:32.320 I can't.
00:19:32.600 Last 10 years.
00:19:33.160 Go ahead.
00:19:33.520 I literally can't.
00:19:34.100 Rob, give me somebody about Charlie the last 10 years.
00:19:36.040 Actually, think about some good names.
00:19:37.280 There are names out there.
00:19:38.460 Who do you say about Charlie?
00:19:39.160 He was the guy.
00:19:40.180 By the way.
00:19:40.740 He was the guy.
00:19:41.460 And by the way, when I say the guy, family, faith, country, give me a name above him.
00:19:50.160 You can't.
00:19:50.660 You can't.
00:19:51.560 So now he's no longer here.
00:19:53.400 Do you realize how important that is to me with a guy that's got two sons?
00:19:57.140 Well, we would go to Charlie because, like, we're supposed to be in AmFest this week.
00:20:00.500 Not this week.
00:20:01.060 Whatever this is coming up, right?
00:20:02.640 And we'd go because Charlie would text, say, Pat, boom, boom, boom.
00:20:04.840 He'd have us backstage.
00:20:05.720 Yeah, he'd have us backstage.
00:20:06.680 And we'd do the podcast.
00:20:07.780 We would go and we would do the podcast.
00:20:08.920 You guys are in the podcast with them.
00:20:10.080 Did you guys do Unusual with them, Rob, if I'm not mistaken?
00:20:12.880 And the year before, we did Peabody podcast.
00:20:14.860 And we'd go there.
00:20:15.860 And you know how many times?
00:20:16.860 Do you know how many times we brought Charlie to speak at our events?
00:20:19.740 Do you know how many times?
00:20:21.240 Every one of our, I think we brought probably five times.
00:20:23.880 I think George has brought him.
00:20:25.400 Gaetan's brought him.
00:20:26.420 We brought him.
00:20:27.380 I don't know how many times we brought Charlie.
00:20:29.900 Charlie would text me.
00:20:30.860 Hey, I'm in Florida.
00:20:31.820 Can we do a podcast?
00:20:32.820 Of course.
00:20:34.080 Hey, Pat, while you're at AmFest, can you do a podcast with me?
00:20:37.140 Of course.
00:20:38.460 What was the schedule with me being on Charlie's show?
00:20:40.940 Was it every three to six months, Rob, we'd be on the show?
00:20:43.340 Yeah, pretty regularly.
00:20:44.260 I don't know what it was.
00:20:45.360 But to me, Charlie gave me comfort.
00:20:48.600 You know why he gave me comfort?
00:20:50.620 Because he was going to be around for 60 more years.
00:20:54.180 Yeah.
00:20:56.080 A well, strong, thought out thinker that's reasonable, that can reason.
00:21:01.360 So to me, I don't have a relationship with Erica.
00:21:06.040 I don't know Erica.
00:21:07.640 But if somebody is your wife, I protect because it's your wife.
00:21:13.460 Does that make sense to me?
00:21:14.460 That's my way of doing things.
00:21:16.600 That's his wife.
00:21:17.760 That's his wife.
00:21:19.200 Candace, you know, some of the things that she's done the last three months, it is what it is.
00:21:23.040 I've expressed my opinion on what direction she's going, and we've had conversations together, and, you know, that's between her and I.
00:21:29.960 We had a 30-minute conversation together.
00:21:31.660 It wasn't a, you know, friendliest conversation, but we did have the conversation with her.
00:21:35.960 But the priority of this thing getting done is to make sure the attention goes to Charlie.
00:21:42.700 The attention goes to Charlie and what he did to the youth, because America was lacking.
00:21:48.860 What he did to last year's election.
00:21:51.460 Because, by the way, last year's election without Charlie, Kamala's your president.
00:21:56.560 That's correct.
00:21:57.420 FYI, take TPUSA and Charlie Kirk out.
00:22:00.480 Kamala's your president.
00:22:02.440 Today.
00:22:02.960 Let me say this one more time.
00:22:05.960 Just, and by the way, take Charlie out of 2016.
00:22:10.720 Hillary's your president.
00:22:13.260 Take Charlie out of 2024.
00:22:15.380 Kamala or Biden's your president.
00:22:16.920 What does America look like?
00:22:19.200 What does America look like?
00:22:20.840 Top three of the people that helped the election turn, in my opinion, are Elon Musk, Bobby Kennedy, and Charlie Kirk.
00:22:25.900 In whatever order you want to put him in.
00:22:28.320 In whatever order, of course, number one above it all is Trump, and it's not even close,
00:22:31.880 because he was the one that's willing to take the shots, literal shots fired at him.
00:22:35.960 And the character assassination that took place.
00:22:39.880 Every form of assassination, they tried on the president.
00:22:43.000 He's still here.
00:22:44.580 And so, to me, priority is very simple.
00:22:47.320 I am not involved in this drama.
00:22:49.000 I don't want to be involved in this drama.
00:22:51.080 This is not my business.
00:22:52.420 This is between the two of them.
00:22:53.660 But when it's so constantly ongoing, and it's diminishing the work.
00:22:58.160 Because watch what the attention's been about.
00:23:00.620 Has the attention been on what Charlie did to help the youth?
00:23:03.180 No.
00:23:03.560 Or has the attention been on the, who's that helping out?
00:23:07.200 No.
00:23:07.620 No.
00:23:07.760 So, that's where I'm at with this, and that's where my opinion lies with this.
00:23:12.720 The challenge I have, multifaceted with Candace right now, is that not only is she a bad friend,
00:23:17.580 she's also selfish.
00:23:18.780 What she said about Tim Pool, let's not misconstrue what she said.
00:23:24.180 She said, I don't care about your midterms.
00:23:26.680 Excuse me?
00:23:28.000 What do you mean, your midterms?
00:23:29.760 We're in America.
00:23:30.900 I thought you were a conservative.
00:23:32.380 I thought you were Charlie's friend.
00:23:33.800 I thought that you are an advocate of Trump.
00:23:36.580 You want Kamala to win?
00:23:38.040 You want the Dems to win?
00:23:39.680 You want the leftist progressives, LGBTQIA to win?
00:23:42.800 What do you mean, your midterms?
00:23:45.200 So, to me, this is just sort of another example of selfish, bad friend Candace.
00:23:50.280 With that being said, guys, exciting news here on what happened.
00:23:53.880 I got a report this morning.
00:23:54.960 Let me tell you what this report is.
00:23:56.720 Do you not got the report this morning because of Christmas shopping?
00:23:58.960 We've been doing a lot of Christmas shopping ourselves.
00:24:00.580 Of course, my son's got the longest Christmas shopping list he's ever had.
00:24:05.000 Dylan?
00:24:05.600 Oh, my God.
00:24:06.440 And, by the way, so many of the items are old dinosaur, what do you call it?
00:24:11.560 Legos.
00:24:11.580 He's all into dinosaur.
00:24:12.740 Dinosaur Legos that we got to go try to find.
00:24:15.440 I'm not, we got to go find.
00:24:16.620 We got to tell Santa to go find.
00:24:18.240 And he's been doing a lot of stuff.
00:24:19.220 So, Christmas shopping.
00:24:20.820 You know what this is?
00:24:22.060 Since the vault till today, I've only not worn these three days.
00:24:27.000 Every day I've worn these.
00:24:28.220 And you know why this is a special week?
00:24:29.860 Because the white and the Navy are officially here being shipped out this week.
00:24:35.180 They're being shipped out this week.
00:24:36.980 So, I want to give you a report that I got this morning.
00:24:40.160 The whitest.
00:24:40.580 On how many countries have ordered these shoes.
00:24:45.000 You ready?
00:24:45.880 In order, okay, of orders.
00:24:48.420 Of who's ordered the most.
00:24:49.540 Obviously, U.S. is number one.
00:24:51.340 Number two is Canada.
00:24:52.400 Surprisingly, Canada's number two.
00:24:54.260 I have to look to see if Pierre won it or not because I don't know if he believes he should look spread.
00:24:57.360 I hope he did.
00:24:58.860 Australia, 23.
00:25:00.480 Interesting.
00:25:01.320 Australia's diehard fans of the podcast, by the way.
00:25:03.960 Australia, 3X UK.
00:25:06.560 Okay?
00:25:06.960 Damn.
00:25:07.360 Then you got Slovenia.
00:25:08.460 Then you got UAE.
00:25:10.280 UAE makes it in the top six of people wearing the shoe.
00:25:13.340 Do you know who's next?
00:25:14.440 Saudi Arabia.
00:25:15.960 Then it's Malaysia, Poland, Croatia, Bulgaria.
00:25:18.900 Then it's Switzerland, Ireland, Czech, Oman, Norway.
00:25:22.020 And guess who's last?
00:25:22.860 Oman.
00:25:23.400 Little old Oman.
00:25:24.220 Israel is last.
00:25:25.040 They did buy, though.
00:25:26.380 But they're last.
00:25:27.660 So somebody there said I'm like.
00:25:28.860 But they get a good discount, yes.
00:25:30.040 No, no discount for the shoes.
00:25:31.180 But guess what?
00:25:32.240 To everybody that's watching this, I love the amount of people that are wearing the shoes.
00:25:35.820 Some interesting people are wearing their shoes and wearing them.
00:25:38.100 I'm in love with them.
00:25:39.120 But for Christmas, folks, Rob, if you can go on a VT merch, I want to show you guys a shirt for Christmas,
00:25:43.440 especially those of you guys that watch it.
00:25:45.060 Whatever you do, stay up a little bit, Rob.
00:25:47.480 Get yours.
00:25:48.060 You're going to fall in love with these Christmas hats.
00:25:49.820 I'm personally giving these Christmas hats away as gifts to some of the folks that I have.
00:25:55.180 These may be the sickest red Christmas hats in the world ever, especially at a time that
00:26:00.500 some people are playing the game, Christmas, what it's all about, celebrating it.
00:26:06.640 Whether it's the green, this is a hot item.
00:26:08.980 Buy five, buy 10, buy 20.
00:26:10.880 Gift them to others.
00:26:12.000 You will not be disappointed.
00:26:12.960 Put it on the right that says Future Looks Bright.
00:26:14.880 On the side, it says VTN.
00:26:16.380 When you flip it, I don't even know if it shows the bottom.
00:26:18.160 Future Looks Bright.
00:26:18.920 It's a sick hat, Rob.
00:26:19.880 If you can go back.
00:26:20.520 Sold out last year.
00:26:21.020 Yeah, I know it did.
00:26:21.820 But we got a few left.
00:26:22.900 If you go back to that page, go a little bit lower.
00:26:26.080 I want to show you that shirt.
00:26:27.260 You see that shirt right there?
00:26:28.280 Those of you guys are the one to the left.
00:26:30.000 Can you zoom into that one and go in, Rob?
00:26:31.560 Who the hell is on that?
00:26:32.260 Well, you have to zoom in a little bit, folks.
00:26:34.260 This is like OG.
00:26:35.380 Who's that?
00:26:35.820 If you go in a little bit, zoom in, you will see.
00:26:38.700 Will it go in a good quality zoom in?
00:26:40.800 Zoom in, zoom in, zoom in.
00:26:42.120 Can you see it?
00:26:42.780 That's me in the middle.
00:26:43.900 Is that me as an elf?
00:26:45.260 That's Vinny as an elf.
00:26:47.000 Adam.
00:26:47.620 That's Adam as a Jew.
00:26:49.000 Adam as a Hanukkah.
00:26:50.180 That's Rob in the back.
00:26:51.960 Another elf.
00:26:52.640 And then you got Tom to the right.
00:26:54.500 Dude, that's hilarious.
00:26:55.040 And yours truly in the middle.
00:26:56.660 I love that.
00:26:57.380 On the back of it, I think it says PPD Podcast, Rob.
00:26:59.400 If you don't have it or not, if you want to go to the back.
00:27:02.480 Yeah, right there.
00:27:03.980 There you go.
00:27:04.820 All right.
00:27:05.400 So go to vtmurch.com, play Steward, and we're about to make a massive announcement
00:27:09.080 about Future Looks Bright that I'm excited about.
00:27:11.760 Once it closes, I'll make the announcement to you guys here today.
00:27:14.400 So again, for Christmas, if you order today, things will arrive to you.
00:27:19.780 And anybody that places an order, you get a Merry Christmas Future Looks Bright ornament
00:27:23.220 and a Merry Christmas Valuetainment Edition mug that'll be sent to you as well.
00:27:27.680 So go place your order.
00:27:29.280 Represent.
00:27:29.600 And we'll send the gifts over to you.
00:27:32.120 We'll send your merch over to you this week.
00:27:34.640 If you enjoyed this video, you want to watch more videos like this, click here.
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