"Carney Needs A Trade Deal" – Trump BREAKS Carney & Canada During Oval Office Showdown
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Trump and Canadian PM Mark Carney had a very interesting conversation at the White House on Nov. 8, and it's a must-listen! Tweet me if you have any questions or have any suggestions on how to improve the audio quality of this episode.
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They had a meeting, Mark Carney from Canada, a prime minister who beat out the other candidate, I forget his name, Pierre Polyev, who had a massive lead at the beginning of the year.
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And he, you know, rejected the idea, wanted to go on Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan, all these other stuff, the Nelk boys, ourselves, and, you know, campaign managers ran by a pompous style way.
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But Mark Carney, see, that should have been Pierre sitting there.
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But Mark Carney got the seat because it takes a lot of work to get it, and you have to compete for it.
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Competition is real when you're campaigning, especially in countries like Canada.
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You can't be afraid of what the media is going to be saying.
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But if you are afraid of what the media is going to be saying, you're going to lose to another guy that's going to sit there and do this.
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So Mark Carney's here with the president, and having a lot of conversations.
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This is where Mark Carney says that Canada is not for sale, and then President Trump responds with never say never.
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Do you have, matter of fact, can you do me a favor?
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Rather than going to clips, go online and find the entire interview, and I'll tell you where we go with this.
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Okay, if you go to YouTube, find the whole thing.
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You'll see because the sequencing of the way he does it, it's a clinic on communication, folks.
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We're not going to watch the whole thing, but you can click on any one of them.
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Okay, so if you watch this thing at the beginning where he's giving him compliments, okay, if you can make it a little bit bigger.
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It's a great honor to have Prime Minister Mark Carney with us.
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As you know, just a few days ago, he won a very big election in Canada, and I think I was probably the greatest thing that happened to him, but I can't take both.
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His party was losing by a lot, and he ended up winning, so I really want to congratulate him.
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It was probably one of the greatest comebacks in the history of politics, maybe even greater than mine.
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We were watching it with interest, and I think candidate Joe is a very talented person, a very good person.
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Because we spoke before the election quite a few times.
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And it's an honor to have you at the White House and the Oval Office.
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You see the new and improved Oval Office as it becomes more and more beautiful with love.
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You know, we'll handle it with great love and 24-karat gold.
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It's been a lot of fun going over some of the beautiful pictures that we've scored in the ball.
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Like, as big as it gets, and I won't tell you on what, but it's going to be.
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I'd also, I'd tell you if it was negative or positive.
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That gets a place where, see if that's the part where he's talking.
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When he wasn't given much of a chance and he did, he ran a really great campaign.
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But no, he ran a really great election, I thought.
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What's the top concession you want out of Canada?
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I just, I just, we're going to be friends with Canada.
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Regardless of anything, we're going to be friends with Canada.
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My parents had relatives that lived in Canada, my mother in particular.
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A lot of, I have a lot of respect for the Canadians.
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Wayne Gretzky, I mean, how good, the great one.
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You happen to have a very, very good hockey player right here on the Capitals who I have a lot of his.
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I know we had the team here, and I got to know a lot of the players.
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Fast forward a little bit when he starts talking about real estate.
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Just a straight line right across the top of the country.
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I mean, I believe it would be a massive tax cut for the Canadian citizens.
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You get tremendous medical cares and other things, there would be a lot of advantages, but it would be a massive tax cut.
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And it's also a beautiful, you know, as a real estate developer, you know, I'm a real estate developer at heart.
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When you get rid of that artificially drawn line, somebody drew that line many years ago with like a ruler, just a straight line right across the top of the country.
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When you look at that beautiful formation when it's together, I'm a very artistic person.
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But when I looked at that beautiful, I said that's the way it was meant to be.
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But, you know, I do feel it's much better for Canada.
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But we're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it.
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I think that there are tremendous benefits to the Canadian citizens.
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Tremendously lower taxes, free military, which, honestly, we give you essentially anyway because we're protecting Canada if you ever had a problem.
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But I think, you know, it's a wonderful marriage because it's two places they get along very well.
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Well, if I may, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale.
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We're sitting in one right now, you know, Buckingham Palace that you visited as well.
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And having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last several months, it's not for sale, won't be for sale ever.
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But the opportunity is in the partnership and what we can build together.
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And part of that, as the President just said, is with respect to our own security.
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And my government is committed for a step change in our investment in Canadian security and our partnership.
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And I'll say this as well, that the President has revitalized international security, revitalized NATO, and us playing our full weight in NATO.
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I must say, Canada is stepping up the military.
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Rob, you can now pause and go to that clip that you had when he says, never say never.
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Well, if I may, as you know from real estate, there are some places that are never for sale.
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Keep going, keep going, keep going, keep going.
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And Mark knew, you know, they were low, and now they're stepping it up.
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First of all, Carney is here because he has to be.
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All the picking on Trump and all the picking on things is over.
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Something he also said in an interview later yesterday, where he said,
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he's a transformational president focused on the economy with a relentless focus on the American workers,
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securing your borders, ending the scourge of fentanyl and other opioids,
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So suddenly Carney becomes the PR guy for President Trump.
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Because the election is over, and now it's time to do deals, and Carney needs a trade deal.
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And Carney needs cooperation, and Carney needs President Trump to take his foot off the tariff pedal because it's working.
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And so now he's coming down here trying the best he can to say, well, we're not for sale.
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But in the meantime, calling Trump a transformational president.
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I'm coming to your house, and I'm coming soon, and I need to talk to you.
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Look, the relationship with Canada and the United States is arguably our most important relationship in the world.
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Strategically, militarily, economically, domestically.
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So, yeah, you know, the China relationship with the United States is probably the most important to manage.
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They're our competitor, and you could use a different word to describe what we got going on with them.
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At the same time, let's recognize we are the big brother.
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And they should respect the fact of what we do for them, especially militarily.
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The one thing where I don't want to upset PBD, but you did notice what Trump said.
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But he said, you know, a lot of people think that you have me to thank for this election, for you winning, Mark Carney.
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So I understand that Pierre Polyev royally screwed up.
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But he also was running against not only just Mark Carney, he was also running against Trump, in my opinion.
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And he should have managed it better, Pierre Polyev.
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He should have gotten off his lazy ass and gone on these podcasts.
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But not only fighting against Carney, fighting against Trump is, I think, the reason that Pierre Polyev lost.
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If you don't know how to handle Trump because you are so afraid of the liberal media and what Canadians think about Trump, you're not a change agent.
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You're just the same as usual, boring candidate that comes up and acts tough and says what he says.
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Kind of reminds me of what happened in Canada with the truckers.
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People who donated to them got their bank accounts frozen.
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If they didn't have good bear hunting, I would never go there.
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I do have to say, I offered to have that Pierre guy come on the podcast.
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He said that Jordan Peterson, correct me if I'm wrong, Jordan Peterson was the one that
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He said, Jordan said his advisors told him not to do it.
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My interpretation, my English is my fifth language.
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But my interpretation, Pierre's been on Jordan Peterson three times.
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So Joe asks Jordan, hey, can you ask Pierre to come?
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Pierre's camp says, his advisor said they don't think it's a good idea for Pierre to
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Jordan Peterson has been on Rogan how many times?
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We all don't respect what Jordan Peterson has done.
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If I'm Jordan Peterson and I'm sort of a strategist, if I have a direct phone call to Pierre or
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Listen, guy, get your ass on Rogan immediately and start doing the podcast rounds.
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I have no idea why he didn't just say, listen, get down to Rogan now.
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What is, what is, going on Joe Rogan, what has that done for Jordan Peterson's career?
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Maybe, because this is a possibility, the people that were around Pierre were actually against
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Adam, okay, make the case for me how somebody, a normal person with a regular working brain
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would be like, nah, going on the most popular podcast in the history of the world, still
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Can you do me a favor and pull up the clip I sent you by Doug Ford that says he used a
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terrible campaign manager and he should have used the one that I told him about?
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So now, some people are blaming the campaign manager.
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I've said right from day one, he's tough as nails, but he's the best campaign manager
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And to be very frank, if Corey was running that campaign, I don't think Mr. Polly ever
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But it's still a lot of time left, and we still have debates.
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At the end of the day, the people will decide which way they want this country to move for.
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So three weeks ago, he is saying that the campaign manager is the reason why it happened.
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But anyways, regardless of it, let's go back to Carney.
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The fact that this conversation is happening, Carney was able to manage Trump in a better
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When Trump all of a sudden started supporting him, when was the first time that Trump started
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being complimentary about Carney and taking shots at Polly, at Pierre?
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Because if you think about the timing there, to a guy like Trump, he's sitting there saying,
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And Carney is easier for me to deal with than you.
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I think that's when you realize there are some issues.
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This could have been four to six weeks ago when it happened.
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This was four to six weeks ago when the conversation took place and he said 51st and Pollyev and
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Trump was critical of Pollyev and it led to what it is, which means Pollyev doesn't know
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You're fit to be a person that's going to have to ask another person to step down to get
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a parliament job after having been in that business since you were 24, 25 years old.
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Do you think that Pierre Pollyev, like if you can compare him to someone in America running
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an election, would, in my opinion, would you compare him to someone like a Ron DeSantis?
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They're in, you know, it's automatic without having to work for it.
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The governor eventually ended up coming on a podcast here and it was the most viewed podcast
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Oh, it was every, everybody reacted to it in a marketplace.
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It was his opportunity to show the lighter side of him the same way where everybody said
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Trump's hair is fake and he went on Fallon or Kimmel and he allowed him to play with
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The different is DeSantis eventually went and talked to everybody.
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DeSantis eventually went and talked to Kelly, everybody.
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So, I would say moments of it was similar to DeSantis, but at least eventually they made
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And don't forget, DeSantis actually went and got his job back as governor of the great
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