Valuetainment - May 30, 2026


"Cartels Made MORE Money Off Humans" - California Sheriff EXPOSES Trafficking & Fentanyl Crisis


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00:00:30.000 As a sheriff, you know, of Riverside County, give us some of the things that you run into, whether it's what happened during election, you know, the 600 something thousand votes, whether it's the types of crime you've seen, whether it's the types of people that are crossing a border that makes it all the way up to where you're at.
00:00:46.880 Yeah. Maybe give us the conditions of what it's like in California, specifically with Riverside County.
00:00:51.320 At Riverside County, we're a big county, two and a half million people.
00:00:54.820 We're not a border county, but from a law enforcement and from a federal government perspective, we're considered a border county because of our freeway systems and we have checkpoints in our county.
00:01:04.560 So even though I'm not – I'm one county away from our southern border, the border patrol and immigration and all those consider us a border county.
00:01:14.560 So people-wise, demographic-wise, we're a good representation of all of California.
00:01:20.740 We've got big cities with 250,000 people, 250,000 people.
00:01:27.740 We've got numerous ones of those.
00:01:30.160 We're resort communities, and the entire Palm Springs, Palm Desert area is all resort communities, snowbirds.
00:01:38.120 Massive farming from our southern border all the way through Riverside County is massive, massive farming.
00:01:45.420 Mountain areas with snow.
00:01:47.540 The demographics, I have everything.
00:01:50.280 Lake Arrowhead is you?
00:01:51.320 No, that's San Bernardino.
00:01:53.120 So we have Idlewild.
00:01:54.540 We don't have a ski resort or anything like that,
00:01:56.960 but we've got Mountain Communities.
00:01:58.480 Is Yucca Valley you?
00:01:59.580 Yucca Valley, San Bernardino.
00:02:00.920 Yucca Valley, San Bernardino.
00:02:02.000 Yeah.
00:02:02.320 Got it.
00:02:02.840 So we share a border that goes almost from the edge of L.A.
00:02:06.320 They touch L.A.
00:02:07.140 Can you pull it up, though, just to see the map?
00:02:09.460 And we share that border that goes all the way across over to Arizona.
00:02:15.300 So San Bernardino is just right above us from right there.
00:02:18.260 They go up.
00:02:18.760 They're probably twice as thick as we are, and then both of us go all the way over here to the Arizona border.
00:02:25.500 All the way?
00:02:26.560 Yeah.
00:02:28.060 So it's 7,800 square miles is what I have.
00:02:32.640 But we have the freeways that come in.
00:02:37.060 We have the 15 that comes up from the south, the 10 coming in, and they intersect in my county.
00:02:41.560 So as far as drug trafficking, human trafficking, the open border that we had, we we were the center of that because of the freeway systems, the 15 going up north across the country and the 10 going south across the country.
00:02:54.060 And then the five and the 15 that come up from San Diego.
00:02:58.660 What are some things you saw? Like what have you seen from the immigration, the border, the open order that we had under Biden?
00:03:04.900 What are some things you experienced with people coming up to your county?
00:03:07.720 uh we it well it was massive massive hundreds and hundreds of thousand millions of people that came
00:03:13.900 through the southern border and then got disseminated through the rest of the country from
00:03:18.760 us um but from a law enforcement perspective massive amounts of drugs fentanyl is fentanyl
00:03:26.180 came from the southern border up into us and then disseminated throughout the rest of the country
00:03:30.680 um human trafficking whether it's labor trafficking or sex trafficking but you have any
00:03:36.720 cases like you know we have when i bring uh i like to bring sheriff judd uh grady on and he'll
00:03:42.460 tell me he's a good man yeah he's a good man but i have a lot of respect for what you guys do as
00:03:45.940 sheriffs it's not an easy job but it's it's good for the audience to know what is really going on
00:03:51.540 because not all of it makes into the news and they're not going to tell the news cycle give us
00:03:55.640 some of the big cases that you experience we have we have a what i have built is a massive
00:04:01.020 human trafficking task force team and so we've got tons of people in my department that but then
00:04:07.540 we operate also with task forces and we bring them into but that was that was since i took over
00:04:12.220 that's been a that's been a heart thing for me is trafficking kids sex trafficking and so i built
00:04:18.600 that to where now my guys are traveling the country teaching others what we're doing what
00:04:23.120 we're looking for and we have a little different aspect because we don't in that one we can if you
00:04:28.640 want but human trafficking sex trafficking prostitution and all of those things they call
00:04:34.580 it a blade a blade is where you can go and this is it's it's blocks and blocks of where the
00:04:40.120 prostitutes are hanging out the pimps are all hanging out we don't have any of that in in our
00:04:45.020 county so we're very very unique so ours is all resort based or hotel based or event based and a
00:04:53.360 lot of people aren't like that it's easy to find where your human trafficking victims are if they're
00:04:57.680 all concentrated in one area and they're walking the streets but ours isn't like that so we get
00:05:03.240 that experience from others through san diego or los angeles but then they're not getting that
00:05:08.140 experience of of where what we have that you're not you can't just go look for the blade and then
00:05:13.840 try and find these victims you actually have to go out and try and find them so it's a little bit
00:05:17.980 unique and it's caused because of the freeway system it's the the 10 and the 15 are just
00:05:23.940 massive transportation routes for for these girls and boys that are being sex trafficked 0.92
00:05:30.960 and that goes through my county so we have a we have a big part of that and then the drugs are
00:05:35.620 the same thing so it's the same freeway system it's the biggest bust you've had for human
00:05:39.660 trafficking or sex or drugs uh i don't know about the biggest i mean we we arrest i mean we we arrest
00:05:48.560 people with tons of fentanyl um do you see that is it weekly is it monthly oh we we get we're
00:05:55.380 having hundreds and hundreds of pounds weekly fentanyl getting caught oh yeah that's that's
00:06:02.120 not what's yes hundreds of pounds weekly and is it by five people is it by 50 is it by a hundred
00:06:09.960 How many different cases account for the hundreds of pounds?
00:06:15.760 Probably 10.
00:06:17.240 Okay.
00:06:18.140 Probably 10.
00:06:18.880 Do you notice a pattern of who's typically doing it, in what area, tied to who?
00:06:24.040 Yes.
00:06:24.880 I mean, we have patterns of what we look for.
00:06:28.180 It's an art.
00:06:29.580 The people that we have trained in finding this,
00:06:33.200 it's not only the undercover guys that are out with CIs and trying to find information.
00:06:37.900 it's utilizing those freeway systems and the roadways and we call it interdiction and this
00:06:43.660 is a nationwide thing but we're we're one of the biggest interdiction teams and it's about it's
00:06:51.100 i don't want to say it's profiling i mean you're looking at things on the road but it's it's we're
00:06:56.780 training our deputies to notice things patterns that are different on the roadway and sometimes
00:07:01.780 it's even funny about whether you brake when you see a cop or knowing what a car is supposed to
00:07:07.980 look like, but it's tilted. You're, you're just seeing it. Yes. So it's got, it's got 500 pounds
00:07:16.060 of methamphetamine in the back axle. It's going to ride different than a regular car that doesn't
00:07:24.700 have that. And it, they're, they're just things that we look for and they're, they're, they're
00:07:29.640 good they're good it blows me away when they do it you know i sit with them and they're like oh
00:07:34.840 that one and we'll go stop it and sure enough sometimes it's empty and they're whatever it
00:07:40.460 was that they keyed on we found the compartment but it was empty but we know that they were
00:07:45.520 they're either involved in it and then we'll follow them we'll put trackers is it tied to
00:07:49.200 a certain gang do you notice it's it's cartel it's not cartel yeah it's cartel i mean there
00:07:54.980 are sometimes during the during the biden administration when human trafficking was so
00:07:58.780 prolific the cartels made more money off of humans so they actually allowed gangs even
00:08:05.340 non-hispanic gangs to take over the drug trade they still controlled it south of the border
00:08:12.140 but they were allowing the gangs to go get it transport it and get it into the country and
00:08:16.400 disseminate it because the cartels were making more money off of humans but that changed soon
00:08:21.980 as trump came in and locked down the border again it all went back so now it's cartel that has all
00:08:26.640 the drug trading in. What interaction have you had with the cartels yourself? Myself none. I mean
00:08:33.080 when I was a deputy we would arrest people that we knew were cartel members. Unfortunately I mean
00:08:38.680 this is a bad thing for me. People use it as a bad thing. I think it's a good thing because we're
00:08:42.660 the ones that arrested them. But we arrested one of our own employees that we end up finding out
00:08:48.080 is related to a very high up cartel member and he himself by association and everything else was
00:08:54.780 was running drugs running fentanyl for the cartel as as a cop himself he was a very young kid and
00:09:02.280 when looking back he had zero nothing negative in his background and it's almost one of those
00:09:08.360 things where you have to ask was this on purpose did they did they purposely do it alzegara roca
00:09:15.560 yeah september 20 transporting 104 pounds of fentanyl pills yeah and his his uncle and and
00:09:23.960 we ended up talking to his mom and everything else the mom was extremely extremely disappointed
00:09:28.920 she knew what her family was into but she thought she had shielded his her kid from it but he had
00:09:37.080 his uncle had hooked him up and they had become business partners I guess and there we in our
00:09:45.000 investigation we let it go for a little bit to make sure we have to figure out if there's more
00:09:49.760 We have to figure out what he's doing.
00:09:51.440 And it didn't have anything to do with the jails.
00:09:53.480 It was cartel smuggling of fentanyl and trafficking.
00:09:58.140 And so we ended up taking him down.
00:09:59.000 How did he get caught?
00:09:59.680 I mean, 520,000 pills.
00:10:01.260 We arrested him.
00:10:01.980 We stopped him.
00:10:03.280 We stopped.
00:10:04.980 We do great work in drug investigations.
00:10:08.380 So we knew that he was going to pick up a load of fentanyl.
00:10:13.440 Did one of your own leak it or did one of the informants
00:10:16.300 or did one of your guys that is working undercover leak it?
00:10:19.480 It was a combination of one of our guys in a federal investigation.
00:10:25.860 So we had one of our guys on a federal task force,
00:10:29.220 and they came up with the possible, so they gave it to us,
00:10:32.260 and then we looked into him ourselves outside of that other investigation
00:10:37.500 where he was identified.
00:10:39.100 And in this case, with the 520,000 pills,
00:10:41.200 how much money was he going to make off this?
00:10:43.060 Is it a buck a pill, 50 cents a pill, 10 cents a pill?
00:10:45.860 It's probably 10 bucks a pill.
00:10:48.060 So he was going to make $5.2 million?
00:10:49.920 Oh, he wouldn't.
00:10:50.700 You know what he's making?
00:10:51.980 I have no idea.
00:10:52.720 I mean, his uncle was probably making a boatload of money because he was pretty high up in the cartel.
00:11:01.940 He was a high up person.
00:11:04.060 In the States or in Sinaloa?
00:11:05.720 In the States.
00:11:06.720 In the States.
00:11:07.840 Did he also get caught, the uncle?
00:11:10.100 By someone else.
00:11:11.420 That was a different investigation.
00:11:13.640 And that's usually how drug investigations work.
00:11:16.700 they they're it's not just one investigation that you try and find everybody it's it's we're doing
00:11:22.660 this investigation and we identified possibly this kid so they notify us and then we start
00:11:28.060 doing that but there were other people doing it it's spiders it's a big spider web a drug
00:11:33.440 investigation is not one just one little thing looking for one single person it's probably in
00:11:38.780 one this investigation probably had there was probably several hundred law enforcement officers
00:11:45.160 either local or federal, that were working in this investigation how big it was.
00:11:51.180 And how does he not know that they're watching him for him not to screw off?
00:11:54.940 Well, that's our role or that's our job is to make sure we don't get caught
00:11:58.940 while we're trying to catch them.
00:12:00.460 They're trying to get away.
00:12:01.700 We're trying to catch them.
00:12:02.920 But it's one of your guys.
00:12:03.900 It's one of your deputies.
00:12:04.980 It's one of our deputies.
00:12:05.960 Yeah, Grady had a similar case as well as one of his deputies they had to go catch.
00:12:09.400 And he's the same thing.
00:12:10.620 He had to call his parents.
00:12:12.640 It's got to be a tough job when it's your own guys.
00:12:15.160 And this guy was a younger guy you were saying.
00:12:16.820 He was in his mid-20s.
00:12:17.880 Yeah, and everything in his background, he was a great kid.
00:12:22.680 He had a great upbringing.
00:12:23.720 His mom raised him well.
00:12:25.660 He was a fantastic employee.
00:12:27.660 It was a complete shock to his peers and his supervisors when we arrested him.
00:12:32.520 How long is he facing now?
00:12:36.540 It's a 10-plus?
00:12:38.280 It should be.
00:12:39.400 For 520,000 pills, 100 pounds.
00:12:41.560 Yeah, I haven't been paying attention to the court case.
00:12:46.300 And that's the bad part about the justice system.
00:12:49.060 Unless you take a deal, it takes forever.
00:12:52.040 Unless if you take a deal, it takes forever.
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