Valuetainment - June 02, 2026


“Chaos Is Their Strategy” - Iran's President Resignation Rumors SPARK IRGC Power Struggle

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Iranian President Hasan Pazeshkian resigns, citing total takeover by Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders, and the markets react to the news. We talk about what this means for the economy, the future of the deal with Iran, and much more.

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00:00:27.920 The next story is kind of weird.
00:00:31.300 It's a story about Pezeshkian, who is the president of Iran, comes out and says, I'm resigning.
00:00:38.680 And so we saw this all over the place, that he is resigning.
00:00:42.420 Iran's president offers resignation, citing total takeover by IRGC commanders, which is kind of weird.
00:00:51.480 So then when you're reading this story, Rob, I think you may have a clip on this.
00:00:55.500 When you're reading this story, you see some people coming out and saying,
00:00:58.880 no, no, no, it's not true.
00:01:00.220 He never sent it.
00:01:01.440 And I think even he sends out a tweet, Rob, if I'm not mistaken.
00:01:04.020 Is this him?
00:01:04.560 It's a video clip that the Iranian state media is saying is the denial that he's resigning.
00:01:10.660 Go ahead.
00:01:11.800 We are ready for any hardship.
00:01:13.660 We are ready to sacrifice our lives, our existence for this revolution and the people of our country.
00:01:18.860 This is him.
00:01:19.880 But in any case, this is something we must all help each other with and walk this path together.
00:01:25.120 We must prepare ourselves for this.
00:01:27.540 And our dear people must also be aware of this matter and help out.
00:01:31.180 Rob, this is what I expect from the national broadcaster as well.
00:01:34.980 So this came out last night, and this is what the Iranian state media is claiming is his denial.
00:01:40.480 I listened to the clip. He doesn't say it anywhere in here.
00:01:43.060 I didn't see the denial.
00:01:44.000 But this is what they're stating is.
00:01:45.460 They're saying that this is his denial.
00:01:46.820 No, I'm not going to put this as a denial. I'll read this to you.
00:01:49.780 You know, this article here from the Iran International says that he submitted his letter of resignation,
00:01:53.860 In the letter sent on Sunday, Pazeshkin stressed the fact that the president and the government have effectively been excluded from major and vital decision-making process in the country and that the vacuum created by the situation has enabled hard-line factions within the IRGC to take control of affairs.
00:02:09.280 Pazeshkin added that under such a circumstance, he is unable to run the government and carry out his legal responsibilities, and he requested to be out immediately.
00:02:16.900 It is not yet clear whether Khamenei will accept the resignation, but the contents of the letter point to a deep and unprecedented rift at the highest levels of power.
00:02:28.620 So if this is true, I have some thoughts on this myself, on how this can end up.
00:02:35.320 Tom, if this is true, what does this really mean, if it is true?
00:02:39.280 Well, when we all saw the headline, I immediately, I had no reaction.
00:02:43.740 I was like, well, of course, the hardliners and IRGC are really calling the shots.
00:02:50.020 And, you know, Trump and the world had been saying it's hard to negotiate because the government was split.
00:02:56.820 We had heard all that. Right, Pat? I mean, that's what we heard. Everything.
00:03:00.120 So when I first heard this, it seemed like, wow.
00:03:03.580 So as a legitimate government off to the side, finally just thrown in the towel and said, I resign.
00:03:08.760 So it seemed normal, not normal, but it seemed like, oh, OK, very believable.
00:03:14.920 However, if this is true and this is what's going on and the IRGC and the hardliners are really in charge, then I think this is kind of worse than where it started.
00:03:27.120 because for the people that have been protesting, this is bad
00:03:33.640 because it means if IRGC is in the point of ultimate power, Pat,
00:03:37.400 I think this is really bad for them.
00:03:39.520 The markets aren't liking what came in this morning.
00:03:42.840 Oil popped. 0.94
00:03:44.060 But I think this is a reaction to Lebanon-Israel.
00:03:46.660 I don't think that's the reaction to Pazeshkian.
00:03:48.960 I think that's the, which we'll get into that here momentarily as well.
00:03:51.660 I think the main reaction to this, what the market is saying,
00:03:54.340 is due to the attacks that are taking place between Lebanon and Israel, no? 0.77
00:03:59.100 Well, I think it's both because I think Lebanon-Israel is the second front 0.61
00:04:04.920 that Israel is fighting, right? 0.80
00:04:07.080 Israel is with us, and we are fighting here, but it's a second front. 0.53
00:04:13.500 I see it as the same conflict.
00:04:15.380 Yeah, so then the question, Adam, your thoughts on this.
00:04:19.100 Yeah, I'm going to reverse course here. 0.99
00:04:22.500 I don't want to deal a deal with Iran. 1.00
00:04:25.720 They're never going to honor any deal. 1.00
00:04:28.860 Did you hear what the gay Ayatollah, whatever you want to call this guy, 0.82
00:04:32.600 that I haven't seen it, did you hear what he had to say over the weekend? 0.91
00:04:34.460 No, what did he say?
00:04:37.040 Doubling down on everything they've always done. 0.91
00:04:38.680 Death to America, death to Israel, this is quote-unquote. 1.00
00:04:41.800 This will be the common slogan of the Islamic nation and the revolution. 0.95
00:04:45.200 They're still doing the revolution.
00:04:46.820 And the oppressed people of all over the world, especially youth. 0.75
00:04:49.800 The future belongs to the Islamic nation, the IRGC, and the new Islamic civilization,
00:04:55.860 and each of us can play a role in realizing this future together. 0.58
00:04:59.040 Does this sound like somebody who wants to cut a deal?
00:05:02.020 And if Pazeshkin, the president, we all know the president doesn't really have any power, 0.59
00:05:06.460 the Ayatollah, the supreme leader, has power. 0.84
00:05:09.140 As much as much as I think it's going to get ugly, 0.91
00:05:13.440 we've already done what we needed to do with epic fury, economic fury.
00:05:17.080 Trump has been very clear that he doesn't necessarily care about midterms, so to speak.
00:05:23.060 I think they may even get into another hot war over this.
00:05:26.420 And we've already done the hard part, whether it's economically, whether it's militarily.
00:05:31.060 We need to finish the job with these people.
00:05:33.140 I mean, but what's finishing the job?
00:05:34.880 Let me let me put it to you this way.
00:05:36.260 So here here's here's what I want to think about.
00:05:39.160 Let's go be in the room, the situation room of IRGC.
00:05:44.560 Let's be in that room.
00:05:45.620 If you're in the situation room of IRGC, what are you saying?
00:05:51.580 Khamenei's in there.
00:05:52.520 Pazeshkian is not in there.
00:05:53.460 It's only people that are pro-IRGC, people that are in that room.
00:05:57.680 What are you telling each other?
00:05:59.760 What are you telling each other?
00:06:00.580 If I'm there, hold the line. 0.84
00:06:02.380 It starts with Allah.
00:06:03.940 Allah wants this.
00:06:05.500 This is what Allah commands.
00:06:06.860 We will do what Allah says. 0.99
00:06:08.040 When Allah is the answer, we can't negotiate about that. 0.99
00:06:09.360 I understand that, but what I'm saying to you is what do you do? 1.00
00:06:11.520 If I'm them right now, you know what I'm saying?
00:06:13.580 First of all, we're winning.
00:06:15.620 Technically, because they're not going to come in and bomb us
00:06:18.980 and kill all the civilians because they're going to look really, really bad.
00:06:21.620 We just have to hold the line. 0.99
00:06:23.340 Which means what?
00:06:24.280 Meaning, it seems to me like they're holding the cards.
00:06:27.920 What can the United States do, Pat, to harm them right now?
00:06:31.920 You're in the room.
00:06:32.640 You're in the room.
00:06:33.120 What do you think is being sent out?
00:06:34.580 Well, based on what I see from the outside,
00:06:36.460 I would assume, and just kind of doing game theory on here,
00:06:40.320 they're sitting there with each other saying,
00:06:42.140 we just need to wait it out and get a deal and get the deal that's a ceasefire and get the deal
00:06:48.860 on Hormuz and then you know get them to agree to negotiate the uranium and everything going forward
00:06:56.100 they're saying no every day that we make them wait we're closer to just getting the war over
00:07:02.280 and we'll negotiate all of that later that's what we want every day we wait I fully agree with Tom
00:07:09.920 on this tom is right um if what does winning look like they just have to survive if they cut any
00:07:16.880 deal the deal is almost irrelevant because you think they're going to honor the deal the whole
00:07:21.120 takia thing is just lying for the sake of winning so there is no so so there's no any deal with
00:07:25.480 strong points is so the nuclear the the enriched uranium the the missiles the proxies um to me 0.61
00:07:32.520 you would probably know this better than anybody chaos is their strategy delaying is their strategy
00:07:38.520 When you don't care about your own people, how do you end up cutting a deal that benefits your own people?
00:07:44.180 What do you think?
00:07:44.920 I'm curious, Pat.
00:07:45.900 What do you think?
00:07:46.860 A, I want to know what their attitude is.
00:07:48.460 And number two, what do you think that they're saying in that room right now?
00:07:52.120 Okay, so first, you have to, when you're running a company and you're going through a bad season financially,
00:08:02.320 the first thing you have to sit there and talk about is finances.
00:08:04.900 How much longer can we afford to go with X, Y, Z?
00:08:07.640 Okay. And finance person will say, we only have $6.8 million in a bank. Really? Yeah. How long can that last? Three months. Okay, shit. So we got three months. Yes. So the finance person is going to say, our revenue is depleted. Our oil revenue is depleted. We are down to nothing. How long can we last?
00:08:26.720 Everybody in that room knows a number on how long that can last.
00:08:30.900 So number one is, what is the lifespan of their money?
00:08:34.540 If America has intel or Masan has intel to find out that number,
00:08:39.420 we control the whole thing.
00:08:41.800 So assume if we know exactly what that number is,
00:08:45.820 we control the whole thing.
00:08:47.460 Number two is, say they do,
00:08:51.340 and the people that are going to take a hit is going to be who?
00:08:53.480 They're people.
00:08:54.180 They don't care about that.
00:08:55.340 They're fine with that.
00:08:56.220 There are people taking a hit.
00:08:56.980 They don't have a problem with that.
00:08:58.620 If in this instance Russia helps out, maybe China doesn't help out,
00:09:03.780 but Russia helps out, but Russia's also depleted,
00:09:06.600 they're also not killing it.
00:09:08.040 It's not like they're having a great time right now with what's going on. 1.00
00:09:10.060 Ukraine's making their life a living kill. 1.00
00:09:12.220 In that situation, Ukraine is Iran. 0.86
00:09:16.140 So Ukraine relates more to Iran and Russia relates more to U.S., right?
00:09:21.440 But in a way, Russia could be the little guy because NATO, U.S., everybody is helping out who?
00:09:28.980 Ukraine. 0.93
00:09:29.880 So I think if you bring in the Israel thing, if you really want to go to, you know, Israel has control and they want this thing to continue and they want to create chaos, you know what they could do to create a lot of chaos? 0.88
00:09:41.400 You know what could be the craziest thing Israel could do to create some chaos? 0.83
00:09:43.960 How many people did they kill of the leaders?
00:09:46.360 What were the number of people that killed on day one or day two, whatever it was?
00:09:49.740 Every day.
00:09:50.420 50 leaders, right?
00:09:51.220 But every day was like somebody knew. 0.96
00:09:52.880 If they take out Pezeshkian, you can give credibility to the people to say, 0.84
00:09:58.640 Israel wants this thing to not end. 0.82
00:10:01.460 They want it to continue. 0.86
00:10:02.740 Why?
00:10:03.560 Because the moderate is willing to negotiate.
00:10:07.480 And IRGC is not willing to negotiate.
00:10:10.560 So if all of a sudden the next week you hear a story, Pezeshkian's been killed,
00:10:16.220 there is credence to say, I get what they're doing. 1.00
00:10:19.820 I don't know if you understand what I just said right there, Tom.
00:10:22.180 No, I'm tracking 100%.
00:10:24.220 So I would not be surprised if the moderates get killed to force the president to have to say, 0.83
00:10:30.880 are we really going to negotiate with terrorists, IRGC, or no? 0.65
00:10:35.280 That is one place of totally being cornered.
00:10:39.960 Because while this is going on, Rob, you have this story with Israel.
00:10:43.760 And you know what happened over the weekend with U.S. says it struck Iranian drone
00:10:47.680 and a radar site, as Iran claims, attack on airbase.
00:10:50.660 I don't know if you have that one or not.
00:10:51.800 It says you have a clip on that.
00:10:53.540 So there's a few things that happened.
00:10:55.260 There's a few things that happened over the weekend,
00:10:57.620 with that being one of them,
00:10:58.700 and the other one being the whole Lebanon.
00:11:02.140 Where's the Lebanon story, Rob, that we have?
00:11:05.800 Let me see this.
00:11:06.540 I don't believe that's in the press.
00:11:07.480 Oh, okay.
00:11:07.940 This is the drone shooting.
00:11:09.800 Go ahead, Rob.
00:11:11.360 New tensions in the Middle East.
00:11:13.240 U.S. Central Command announcing it conducted self-defense strikes
00:11:17.020 inside Iran over the weekend, targeting radar and drone sites.
00:11:21.420 CETCOM says the U.S. strikes were in response to what it called
00:11:24.540 aggressive Iranian actions, which included the shooting down
00:11:28.160 of a U.S. drone over international waters.
00:11:31.140 Iran claims it responded by targeting the air base where the U.S. attack originated.
00:11:35.720 Missile activity was being monitored in Kuwait.
00:11:38.520 All this coming after President Trump suggested a peace deal with Iran was in reach.
00:11:42.960 We're close to a very good deal.
00:11:44.740 He says we will not develop or in any way purchase a military weapon.
00:11:48.940 That's a big difference.
00:11:50.120 The president insists the deal will be.
00:11:51.840 So over the weekend, Hezbollah fired rockets into northern Israel from Lebanon.
00:11:56.680 Israel responded with expanded military operations.
00:11:59.600 Bibi ordered renewed strikes on Hezbollah targets, which they captured the castle.
00:12:04.320 Rob, do you have the video of the castle with the Israeli flag at the top?
00:12:07.440 Just go on YouTube, type in the castle, Israel flag castle.
00:12:13.580 Did you guys see this?
00:12:14.280 So they say they captured the castle, and they put up the Israel flag at the top of the castle in Lebanon.
00:12:20.760 And this is an 889-year-old castle.
00:12:24.600 What's the name of it?
00:12:25.980 Bo something?
00:12:27.180 I want to say the castle's name correctly if you want to pull it up.
00:12:30.420 No, it's called something else.
00:12:31.680 Buford?
00:12:32.120 Yeah, Buford Castle, 889 years old. 0.92
00:12:34.880 So Israel puts the flag up.
00:12:36.140 That's a statement on what you just did.
00:12:38.100 Rob, if you want to go to the Buford Castle, it's got rich history to it.
00:12:41.440 It's on top of a rock, on top of a mountain.
00:12:43.420 and, yeah, go to it.
00:12:46.200 Yeah, Beaufort Castle.
00:12:47.400 So they took it over.
00:12:48.600 Obviously, it's not the kind of castle where you're going to go have
00:12:50.400 full-grown steak and, you know, it's a different kind of a castle meeting.
00:12:52.960 It's just got rich history to it, right?
00:12:55.580 So they had their back and forth.
00:12:56.940 Israel captured a major strategic position, which is the Beaufort Castle.
00:13:03.540 Ceasefire talks appear to be faltering between the two. 0.72
00:13:06.260 So think of everyone's motives, IRGC's motives versus Peseshkin's motives
00:13:12.840 versus Israel's motive versus U.S.'s motives versus the world's motives.
00:13:17.820 If you want to go one by one by one, let's do it.
00:13:19.960 Number one, IRGC's motives. 1.00
00:13:22.020 They could give a shit. 1.00
00:13:25.460 Their loyalty is to their Allah and their loyalty is to what they believe in 1.00
00:13:29.120 and the supreme leader.
00:13:30.320 They could care less about your pain.
00:13:31.800 They could care less about the world economy.
00:13:33.340 They could care less about the Strait of Hormuz.
00:13:35.200 They could care less about any of that stuff. 0.94
00:13:37.240 Pezeshkin, what's his motive?
00:13:38.740 He wants diplomacy.
00:13:41.140 he wants to see a deal being done.
00:13:43.320 He is a moderate.
00:13:44.500 He would like something to happen, which, by the way,
00:13:46.960 believe it or not, that guy's got a target on his back
00:13:49.620 by two different people.
00:13:50.800 You know who?
00:13:51.200 His own side?
00:13:52.120 IRGC and Israel.
00:13:53.320 Yeah.
00:13:53.780 Because if Israel notices Trump's going to extend this, 1.00
00:13:57.100 they have to get rid of Pazeshkin. 1.00
00:13:58.700 So Pazeshkin has to be gone one way or another. 0.77
00:14:01.540 If Israel's motive, if BB's legacy goes that Iran got stronger with IRGC,
00:14:07.080 that's not a good look for his legacy.
00:14:08.680 At all.
00:14:09.120 U.S. is about what?
00:14:10.140 Where is Trump at right now?
00:14:11.580 We need the economy back down.
00:14:13.300 We need gas prices back down to be in the high 60s, high 70s to be fine where we are.
00:14:19.640 Economy needs to be opened up. 0.98
00:14:21.340 The world is like, we got to get this shit to be done because we want it to be done. 0.98
00:14:24.940 But the Gulf states don't want IRG. 0.99
00:14:27.180 It's such a complicated mess right now.
00:14:32.520 But if you can find out how much money they have and what their run rate is and what their pain is,
00:14:38.800 If Masato, the CIA, can get into their situation room,
00:14:41.880 which is probably going to be in some kind of a bunker,
00:14:44.360 and hear what their biggest pain is, now you have a situation there.
00:14:48.920 So for me, you know, I think there could be a lot of moving parts,
00:14:52.520 a lot of different things happening,
00:14:53.620 but that's what I think is going on right now with Iran, you know, Israel, and U.S.
00:14:58.640 That's where my thoughts are.
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