Valuetainment - Chinese Virologist Reveals Coronavirus Cover Up by CCP - EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

00:00:00.160 Five important points and all the points are verified. First, there is cover-up in China

00:00:08.160 about SARS-CoV-2 outbreak. There is already human-to-human transmission. This is a highly

00:00:14.960 mutant virus. There is no intermediate host. The Wuhan Huanan seafood market is just a smoke screen

00:00:23.360 from Chinese government. This virus is not from nature. It is lab-modified virus. What gives you 0.99

00:00:31.280 this level of certainty to say you know? Because you're saying, I know for a fact this is man-made.

00:00:36.240 How do you know? More than my scientific evidence, I present in this report and also the next one.

00:00:43.200 This is a very important matter. The world stopped for six months. A million people have died because

00:00:48.560 if this is man-made, they need to be held accountable. And if you, based on your

00:00:53.040 research that you're making, you're not right. I think we also need to know that you were wrong

00:00:56.880 in certain places. Quite frankly, don't trust both sides a hundred percent. So together with

00:01:01.360 all these things, I think it's easy for people to understand who is lying. If what you say is true,

00:01:10.320 this could be the biggest cover-up of this century.

00:01:16.800 So my guest today is Dr. Li Meng-Yen, who recently was interviewed on the Tucker Carlson

00:01:22.160 show. And in the span of five days, her interview, five-minute clip, got nearly three million views.

00:01:27.680 And it created a lot of havoc because she's been on a couple of interviews in the past before.

00:01:32.400 But she's a defector from China who made claims that says the coronavirus COVID-19 is not

00:01:40.560 through bats. It's actually man-made. And it was made intentionally. And she's made those claims.

00:01:45.520 She wrote a paper about it. There are some folks that are not happy about it. National Geographic wrote a

00:01:49.920 paper about her on September 18th, saying why misinformation about COVID-19's origins

00:01:55.200 keeps going viral. Daily Beast talked about Steve Bannon is behind bogus study that China created

00:02:01.440 COVID. And we're going to cover that stuff as well. But a couple of things you need to know about her

00:02:06.240 background. She left April 28th of 2020. She came to New York April 29th, 2020. We don't know her

00:02:13.360 locations. We are not disclosed in any location. She is not very comfortable about her safety right

00:02:20.880 now as we go through this interview. She went to university and got her MD from Zhang Gia Medical

00:02:25.600 College of Central South University. She got her PhD from SMU Southern Medical University, known as First

00:02:31.760 Military Medical Academy. And she was doing a research at University of Hong Kong. A very,

00:02:38.720 very interesting story. And by the way, one thing everybody needs to know is a lot of times when I do

00:02:42.640 these interviews, I think it's important for the audience to know, is there anything being paid to

00:02:48.560 her? We're not paying her anything. She didn't ask for money. There is no additional way of compensating

00:02:54.800 her. She's not selling a book. So a lot of times I get a red flag when somebody is trying to sell a book.

00:02:59.920 And I hope YouTube allows this interview to stay on as a fair interview where others can make a decision

00:03:05.680 for themselves about what she has to say. So having said that, Dr. Lee Meng Yang, thank you so much for

00:03:11.600 being a guest on Valuetainment. Hi, Patrick. Thank you for having me.

00:03:14.880 Yes, anytime. And look, obviously with the current situation, you're in yourself. I think the first

00:03:20.800 question I want to ask is before we get into a lot of these claims and papers you've written is,

00:03:26.320 you know, I left Iran and I went to Germany. And then from Germany, I came here. I lived in Iran for

00:03:31.760 10 years. And then I lived in Germany at refugee camp for two years. I have my own reasons why I left

00:03:37.520 Iran. My family and I left Iran and came to the States. You are seen as a defector. A defector is

00:03:44.000 somebody that abandons their own country for another one. Why did you abandon China and come to the US?

00:03:49.520 Okay. So first, uh, I just want to ask, I didn't hear you clearly. Did you mention my PhD got from

00:03:56.320 Central South Medical University? It's a formal military university, right? Because when I was there,

00:04:02.640 I'm not the one in the army and that was not the military university. Just to stress it because

00:04:08.400 someone tried to miss disease. I think that's very important for everybody to know, meaning you've never

00:04:12.640 been part of the CCP. It's very good. No. Yeah, never. Fair enough. Okay, thank you. So the reason I have to leave

00:04:19.760 China actually is very, very realistic because I was assigned to the secret investigation representative

00:04:29.360 of WHO reference lab in the University of Hong Kong School Public Health. And at that time, my supervisor,

00:04:37.760 Professor Liu Peng, who is a WHO consultant in emerging disease, who asked me to do this investigation for

00:04:46.800 the unknown pneumonia happened in Wuhan at the end of December, 31 December 2019. So at that time, lack of

00:04:56.960 information from China government to even Hong Kong and also overseas. And then after the investigations,

00:05:05.280 I got my MD-PhD from mainland, as you stressed, and I have my very unique but vast network from Chinese

00:05:14.880 hospitals, authorities, including CDC, and also different institutes, including the military ones.

00:05:22.240 And another thing is I'm the only one in that core team who can speak in Mandarin and also have the two

00:05:30.480 degrees. So that means I can communicate well and fully understand those information. So since I was

00:05:37.600 assigned to do this work, as I already mentioned in other media, that I got the fact from China and

00:05:45.920 responded to Professor Liu Peng and also Professor Malik Paris, who is a co-head of that WHO map and the top

00:05:54.960 coronavirus expert top one in the world. They both know the things, but they choose to keep silence and

00:06:02.080 collaborate with Chinese Communist Party. And also I get warned that, be careful, don't cross the red line.

00:06:09.840 If not, you will be in trouble and you will be dispaired. And they want me to keep silence too.

00:06:16.480 So together with all the information I stressed before, that all the things make me cannot keep silent,

00:06:25.200 because it's an urgent time. So 19th January, I have to go through a media that's based on YouTube.

00:06:35.440 It's called the Ludus Broadcast. It's a Chinese blogger who is in the U.S. to deliver the message, 0.88

00:06:41.600 anti-Chinese Communist Party with the truth. So I didn't know him before, but I trust him and he's 0.99

00:06:48.160 the only one I can trust at that time to deliver the truth. So luckily, I contacted him and he responded

00:06:55.840 to me. I spent two days from 17th January to 19th January to explain all the things I can tell him

00:07:03.520 and let him understand the situation. And then he delivered the message out at night in Beijing time,

00:07:10.640 19th January, which includes five important points. And all the points are verified.

00:07:18.560 These five points are first, there is cover up in China about the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak.

00:07:27.200 Cover up including the how they use the wrong case number. And also they claim there is no medical

00:07:35.520 stuff infected and other things, many other things. And the other, the second one is there is already

00:07:43.680 human to human transmission exists. The third thing is, this is a highly mutant virus. And if no stop,

00:07:54.240 no country immediately, there would be a big outbreak in China and even worse. Remember that time only 62 cases in the

00:08:04.240 world. So without intelligence and enough knowledge, I cannot tell such words. And the first thing is,

00:08:12.080 there is no intermediate host, no wild animal as host. The Wuhan Huanan seafood market is just a smoke screen

00:08:21.840 from Chinese government. And the fifth thing is, this virus is not from nature. It is a lab-modified virus. 0.67

00:08:33.040 Based on the Chinese military lab discovered and owned the Zhuxian bat coronavirus, 0.98

00:08:40.640 ZC45 and ZXC21. And from that they become a harmful lethal virus. So all these five things now can be verified.

00:08:53.440 And just within hours, we deliver this message out. The China government realized there is someone who

00:09:01.360 really knows this fact inside. So they quickly have responded to that. Including within four hours,

00:09:09.680 they update the case number from 62 to 198. That was midnight in China. And the next morning,

00:09:18.560 they admit that there are more cases out of Wuhan, in Shanghai, in Guangdong. And again, in the afternoon,

00:09:28.080 they admit human to human transmission exists. Also, Chairman Xi issued the first statement in

00:09:36.560 2020, which put the SARS-CoV-2 infectious disease from the common sense to the SARS level

00:09:46.240 and all, as a highly infectious disease and has to be monitored. And again, three days later,

00:09:53.280 they locked down Wuhan. But somehow, they still let people go around the world from Wuhan, which is very, 0.69

00:10:00.160 very, very terrible. And from that time, I started to work with Mr. Mood because I again and again realized

00:10:09.440 there are more things Chinese Communist Party want to cover up, including they try to hold the PPE from

00:10:18.960 all over the world. But even not give the doctors in Wuhan, who is on the front line to fight with the disease.

00:10:28.640 Can you believe that? I mean, they hold all the things in the Red Cross storage, but not allow the Wuhan

00:10:35.440 medical staff to get it. And Wuhan medical staffs are very petty. They ask for help online through the

00:10:43.680 friends and government, ask them to silence. And other things, including like Dr. Shi Zhengli, the bat 0.95

00:10:51.600 woman, the famous one. Since the 19th January, we deliver a message. The next day, they quickly

00:10:58.480 submit the very famous nature paper now, which is a founding evidence for nature origin of SARS-CoV-2.

00:11:06.400 The 20th January, they submit the paper with the RATG-13 virus to Nature's Journal. And the 3rd February,

00:11:16.640 Nature published it. The same day, another paper was published from Shanghai. That team said

00:11:24.080 Zhuxian bat virus actually was the closest one to this SARS-CoV-2, which can be the origin. And that team 1.00

00:11:31.840 get punished. Their P3 lab gets shut down by the government. And Shi Zhengli's RATG-13 virus, 0.97

00:11:42.320 although it's problematic, and a lot of researchers, scientists challenge the data, the quality,

00:11:51.360 different aspects, and also from intelligence, I can tell you, they never have such virus collected.

00:11:59.280 So basically, this is a fabricated virus. But then that becomes the fundamental evidence,

00:12:06.320 which is supported by the scientific work to say this virus comes from nature. And based on this,

00:12:14.800 they developed many, many other publications, and also apply it to different aspects related to SARS-CoV-2

00:12:23.760 investigation. And also later, more things I can stress later with you, like including to the antibody

00:12:32.480 screening, including to the asymptomatic things, all this. But on June, end of April, I got the

00:12:40.320 intelligence from Mr. Luder that Chinese Communist Party already realized I'm the one deliver the truth

00:12:48.160 out. So I will be the one they make disappear soon. And also, I realized that Chinese-speaking country 1.00

00:12:58.480 and the English-speaking words are totally different. Although our message saved millions of Chinese

00:13:04.800 people and our audience feedback to us, thanks to us. But English countries overseas, people suffer this

00:13:12.800 pandemic. And Chinese Communist Party, WHO, their friends let it go. So I want to deliver the message to the

00:13:21.040 English-speaking country too. And if I stand up in Hong Kong, as you can understand now, immediately

00:13:28.240 before my message is delivered out, I will be killed. So for these two reasons, I decided to leave Hong Kong,

00:13:36.960 and the Zhu of Mao Foundation, which is a foundation for help the people, anti-Chinese Communist Party,

00:13:45.600 to reveal the truth. They helped me to escape from Hong Kong. So that's the reason I came to US.

00:13:53.360 Did you say the Zhu Wangya Foundation, is this the gentleman who's a billionaire,

00:13:57.840 a very successful individual? Is that the entrepreneur?

00:14:00.640 Yes, the Zhu of Mao Foundation related to the Mao school and Mr. Bannon. But this is not the reason

00:14:11.040 that they should get attacked in the media. Because for people like me, this is the only, I mean, reliable way

00:14:21.680 to help me go out and also to help me speak out to the world. And they really helped me.

00:14:28.400 I don't understand why people attack me because of Zhu of Mao Foundation. This foundation is from people

00:14:39.120 who support the anti-Chinese Communist Party activities and donate their money to the foundation

00:14:46.160 to help people like me. With all this foundation support, I will be already despair in China and no one

00:14:54.160 get Charles to know the truth and to know the report and my later statement.

00:14:59.600 That's, that's so, so I, you know, that's a whole different story with him. Maybe we'll get into him

00:15:03.680 here in a minute because I know he's got his own YouTube channel and he is not a big fan of China

00:15:08.800 and he's not staying quiet about it. But let me go back to what you said about your five points

00:15:12.640 on why you left and you eventually came to the States. So the last thing you said, you know, you said the

00:15:18.720 virus is not, uh, natural. It's not from nature, right? It is man-made is what you're saying.

00:15:24.320 And the way you're saying it, you're saying it with a level of certainty. You're not saying,

00:15:28.400 uh, uh, potentially, maybe it could be possibly, you know, we need to find a little, the way you're

00:15:36.640 saying this, it is, it is a very strong statement that you make. So it brings three different questions

00:15:41.680 for me and I'll go through them with this first. So you said at that moment, they went from 62 cases

00:15:48.080 that they announced to 198 and immediately one by one by one, they address the right issues.

00:15:53.520 If I go online right now to get the cases, China states that right now total, they have 85,291 cases

00:16:00.400 total ever of coronavirus and only 4,634 people have died. Number one, before I go to my next question,

00:16:07.360 how much do you trust the data that China gives to the public? So it means it's total death toll, 0.91

00:16:12.800 right? I can tell you that Chinese government itself won't believe that. And the real number,

00:16:20.480 maybe we never know. For example, I can tell you how they count the numbers. Like from the beginning,

00:16:27.120 my firsthand information told me that. So from the beginning, the way they delay the cases is to

00:16:33.200 postpone the diagnosis, which you cannot do it in hospital. Already, it's highly suspicious.

00:16:39.600 Patients which rule out other pathogens and the government said they do the diagnosis, not the

00:16:46.400 hospital. And then they delay the result. So this is one way. The other way is they give very limited

00:16:54.480 case to the hospital, which cannot give enough patients for diagnosis. And then they use the lockdown to

00:17:02.080 keep people at home and don't allow them to go to hospital without permission. And the other thing

00:17:08.800 is when the people die in the hospital, it's according to the US way. For example, I did the influenza

00:17:18.240 research before for several years. So for influenza patients, once you get influenza diagnosed and later

00:17:25.280 you die of the chronic cancer, you have already have the fundamental disease, but this trigger you,

00:17:32.080 and then the guy passed away. Counted as influenza, they lead to death, right? But in China, no. So they will 1.00

00:17:41.440 give you the test for twice, and they give you the ventilator machine once you get, you know, go to the ICU.

00:17:48.640 They try their best to put on your life. And once they found, oh, two times negative from your throat.

00:17:56.560 So you are the one die of some other reason, hard reason, long reason, whatever reason, not from COVID-19.

00:18:05.200 And the Chinese way to test it is not the way we are using in other countries, even not the way we are

00:18:12.240 using in Hong Kong, those ones can reach to 90 to 95% accuracy. But the way in China, in mainland,

00:18:21.600 government allows those different protocols only have 20 to 30% accuracy. They admitted, they knew it,

00:18:31.840 but remember for twice test, and then you get as a positive or negative. This cannot be covered by

00:18:42.160 the 20 to 30% accuracy. You use such quality of the way to test people, you have to do like nine

00:18:50.080 times or even 11 times to get the real result. So this is another way that the real cases are ignored.

00:19:01.200 So let me ask you, let me go back to that question. Let me go back to that question,

00:19:04.320 the way you broke it down, 20 to 30% accuracy. So when we in America, we don't know what's going on in

00:19:10.880 China because we don't have NBC, Fox, CNN, BBC, social media, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter,

00:19:15.760 we don't have nothing in China. So a lot of the US media just reports what China gives us. And we

00:19:21.280 don't have a freedom of press in China to know, here's what's going on. When we go on Google,

00:19:27.360 which is what presses to America when we want to get our data, if you go on Google and you type in

00:19:32.800 US, China, US has 328 million people living here. That's our population. China has 1.393 billion

00:19:41.920 people living there, right? US has 6.86 million cases of COVID-19. China has only 85,000 cases

00:19:51.680 of COVID-19. US has 202,000 people that have died in US. China only has 4,634 people that have died in

00:20:01.040 US. So what you're saying is that China has a lot more because as for somebody that's you,

00:20:07.280 it almost seems like in the US, the numbers are reported bigger than it really is. And the numbers

00:20:12.640 in China are almost being reported smaller than what they are. What would you say to that?

00:20:16.640 So I want to say is Iran has the first-hand information and I can let you know that China 0.94

00:20:24.240 government tried their best to show people that this is not a big deal in China. So this is

00:20:32.240 something they can control very well. As also they mentioned, they have the so-called successful

00:20:39.040 vaccine and they have zero cases. And even from the like April to May, they start to claim that

00:20:46.400 oh, the new cases are all imported from other countries. And what else China government has

00:20:52.800 stressed? They also said this virus comes from US, origin from US. And also they even want to

00:21:01.600 stress it to some, except for the poor animals, they want to tell you it from outer space. So together

00:21:08.720 with all these things, I think it's easy for people to understand who is lying and why can you trust

00:21:16.240 their death toll number and the situation about COVID-19. So you don't trust any data that China gives 0.71

00:21:23.680 about the number of cases? I've been in China for over 30 years. I grew up from this whole system and I

00:21:31.520 have so many contacts there. I mean, relationships there, vast network, all these things together, I can

00:21:40.560 tell you don't trust it. And you were laughing. You're almost like laughing at Americans that we believe

00:21:47.680 those numbers. That's what you're- Because in China, in US, people thought that everyone can tell

00:21:53.600 the truth. So if there is something like that, at least you can hear from someone or from some media.

00:21:59.440 Although maybe it's now the mainstream, you still can hear from other voice. But in China, and even now,

00:22:06.160 I think China, US people can understand, Chinese Communist Party is so powerful in controlling

00:22:13.760 your voice, your thinking. So they have their propaganda and they have their very strict structure

00:22:22.480 and strategy to affect these things. For example, in my case, I'm the one who want to tell the facts,

00:22:30.080 tell the truth based on scientific evidence and intelligence. But since I start to tell things,

00:22:37.120 they try to make me despair. And since I go to US, even before I exposed in public in July from Fox News,

00:22:46.560 Chinese Communist Party sends the placements from Hong Kong to Beijing and the Ministry of State

00:22:56.240 Security sent people to my Hong Kong, Qingdao, immediately when I was still on the flight,

00:23:02.720 to question my family and to push them, collaborate with them to bring me back.

00:23:08.080 And also, the Hong Kong government, there are dozens of placements taking charge of my case.

00:23:15.840 And the placement, 10 placements at least, search my very small apartment in Hong Kong, which is only

00:23:24.800 200 square inches. Very small one. Yeah, you know, the Hong Kong living situation. And then,

00:23:34.080 the University of Hong Kong Vice Chancellor approved Zhang Xiang, who is actually back from US,

00:23:41.600 his academic fellowship in the engineering field in US, who, at the same night I fly away,

00:23:51.920 call for the alumni and staff in the University of Hong Kong, immediately collect all the information

00:23:58.720 about me and search me. And some informer from my school alumni tell through the WeChat, all my friends,

00:24:08.000 even middle school friends, or university friends, that Li Mengying now is in criminal cases.

00:24:15.760 Everyone has to report to policemen about information related to her, even in the past half years.

00:24:24.800 She has no privacy now. Everyone has to be responsible for the things if you hide any information.

00:24:32.240 All together, they see. And since China recruited cyber-military Wu Mao, those people to attack me online,

00:24:40.800 on Twitter, on Facebook, they established many fake accounts using my profile, my name,

00:24:47.520 and tried to spread the misinformation represent of me. And since I tell the truth and published my report

00:24:56.880 last week, my Twitter account immediately got shut down by Twitter without any reason. And it's interesting,

00:25:05.440 I can tell you, you know what, I have another anonymous account which I use just to share some information.

00:25:13.200 No one knows that's me. Just because I share the same phone, log in the two accounts, that small account is shut down at the same time.

00:25:22.240 And Facebook labeled me as fake news. But at the same time, they are also the fake Li Mengying account alive,

00:25:30.640 spreading the misinformation. Even thousands of people tried to complain, no response from them.

00:25:37.600 Yeah, you know, that's a, by the way, 200 inches, I'm sure you were trying to say 200 feet, because 200 inches,

00:25:44.160 my shoe. Oh, yeah, sorry, 200. 200 inches is like this big. I'm sure you're talking about 200 feet,

00:25:50.640 because you've been standing up. It's kind of weird to do that. So, okay, so Facebook and Twitter,

00:25:58.240 I'm always curious to know why they're defending China, and they're so worried about protecting China.

00:26:04.240 But we'll get past that, because I know both your video was taken down on Facebook and Instagram of

00:26:09.360 Tucker's. And your Twitter was suspended without any explanation. So first point is you don't trust

00:26:16.080 any data. Great. Check. Let's go to the next one. For you to say this with a level of certainty that

00:26:22.960 you're saying it, you're not saying it with any hesitation. You're not saying it with any doubt.

00:26:27.840 You're saying it with certainty. I believe in God, but I can't say I 100% believe God exists

00:26:34.480 factual because I haven't met him. It's faith. I believe, you know, faith is believing in something

00:26:40.400 you have not yet seen, right? That's faith. That's why we say I believe, right? You're not

00:26:45.200 saying I believe. You're saying you know this is man-made. What gives you this level of certainty

00:26:51.360 to say you know? Because when you say you know, you're not leaving anything for somebody to come

00:26:56.720 in, you know, make an argument, because you're just saying you know. So you're getting so many targets

00:27:01.440 at you because you're saying I know for a fact this is man-made. How do you know?

00:27:06.560 So briefly what I can tell you is there is only one truth for this COVID-19 things. And the truth is

00:27:15.680 it is not a nature origin jump from bad directly to human. And I say I know because more than my

00:27:24.000 scientific evidence I present in this report and also the next one, which will come out soon.

00:27:30.720 I also have intelligence information. And also I know deeply about this Chinese Communist Party.

00:27:39.920 And because of my special position in that co-lab in Hong Kong, I know those kind of top

00:27:48.480 virologists in this world. I know I stayed with them for several, for many years. I mean, actually,

00:27:56.160 I was in Hong Kong for eight years. And I know this, some of these people like Professor Malik

00:28:01.600 Paris and not late, just I mean, several months later since I go to Hong Kong. And also, I can tell you,

00:28:09.440 my husband, who is also a core scientist, work in the same lab. He is the most trustful helper for Professor Malik

00:28:21.600 Paris and both of them from Sri Lanka. And this is a very specific bridge for me to get more familiar with

00:28:33.200 money. And also know more about these things. I cannot tell too much in the media at this moment,

00:28:40.720 but I already get contacted by the U.S. government, the relevant people.

00:28:45.840 And based on all these intelligence things and my scientific evidence and the fact I got from China during the

00:28:55.440 COVID-19 happened, get gathered. All the things clearly can tell people this is from the lab and

00:29:04.080 this is the things intentionally released from the lab.

00:29:08.560 Okay. So, so I'm going to come back to what organizations contacted you because I do want to

00:29:13.680 ask you that, who you had the interview with. Maybe we can talk about that here in a minute,

00:29:17.520 but let me stay on this topic here. So, while you're saying this, I go online and I research

00:29:22.400 how many total virologists we have in America, because I'm just curious when you're saying a

00:29:27.040 number like that, I want to see what this data comes out. It tells me in America today,

00:29:32.560 uh, virology, there are 19 total degrees, uh, different kinds of degrees. You can get into

00:29:38.800 that virology. Uh, there is the average salaries, $108,000 a year income, total people workforce,

00:29:45.680 2.73 million people, uh, average employee of a virology in that industry, 41 and a half.

00:29:51.840 I don't know how many virologists there are in America, but I would assume there are many,

00:29:56.320 and there are many intelligent people in this space, many doctors, many people who in America are

00:30:02.000 comfortable going against, because this is a freedom of speech country. This is not a,

00:30:07.600 if you don't, we're going to do execution. If you don't, we're going to do this to you. If you don't, 0.79

00:30:12.080 we're going to, you're going to be a defector from America. We don't have a lot of defectors

00:30:15.680 from America because nobody leaves America. Everybody comes over here. Defectors come over here.

00:30:19.840 So why is it that you're the only one that's so public about it saying man-made? And if there are

00:30:27.600 other people that are on your side, who are those people in America that have credibility as a

00:30:32.640 doctor? Not, I'm a, I'm a person that's got a YouTube channel, you know, Steve Bannon,

00:30:37.840 maybe somebody that works on Trump's campaign. So a lot of people, he just got, you know, the whole

00:30:42.240 scandal that he had. So a lot of the public may not trust what's coming out of his mouth,

00:30:46.480 unless if it's people on his side, right? You're this billionaire Gu, when Gu that escapes China and

00:30:52.880 comes here, there's a lot of weird things that said about him on a vice interview. So why is it

00:30:57.280 that you are the one who knows this is man-made and all these other experts who have many,

00:31:05.040 many years of experience are disagreeing with you? Okay. First, let me stress that,

00:31:11.680 what I can tell you is I cannot list the name for some reason, but I can tell you first,

00:31:17.840 when I just arrived Los Angeles airport to transfer to New York on 28th April,

00:31:25.760 FBI stopped me, the customs stopped me. And then the FBI, when they heard I'm coming here to tell

00:31:32.640 the truth of COVID-19, they told me trust but verify. And I work with them because I have like eight

00:31:41.200 hours for transferring in that airport. So I work with the customer officers and later FBI to talk

00:31:50.080 about the story. And after that, FBI, trust me, and also Homeland people came out, they heard about that,

00:31:58.400 and they protect me to go to the flight, go to check-in. They hold my cell phone at that time,

00:32:04.720 because there are some evidence in my cell phone. They need to make the backup. And they promised me

00:32:11.120 to give it back two days later. And two days later, the FBI agent from Los Angeles airport fly to New York

00:32:21.280 and gave my phone back to me face-to-face with New York FBI agent. And after talking,

00:32:28.640 New York FBI agent arranged the top biologist or biologist from FBI, the very senior one,

00:32:37.440 talked to me for a whole day about the lab made this, how to explain it. Yeah, so they have verified

00:32:46.880 my things. And that all happened in the first few weeks when I arrived to US. And later, when I have my

00:32:54.720 report, during April 2, I published my report. Actually, there are top experts, the senior people,

00:33:05.200 relevant people in the US government already know this. And we talked, and they read my report.

00:33:12.560 So that's why, although there is no peer review, but all the feedback strongly positive support me.

00:33:19.920 And these are the people back to me to support this evidence. Also, the whole scientific field

00:33:30.640 kept silent. But you see, I even this out. How do they do it? What can they do to make it? And what

00:33:40.960 material they are using to make it? I also reconstruct the procedure for most proper way they can make this

00:33:49.760 virus in the lab within six months using their unique Doshan bat coronavirus as backbone. Until now, 0.99

00:33:58.000 did you see the people I listed in my report come out to argue with me in scientific work? I mean,

00:34:05.760 I listed clearly that if you check the reference, over a hundred reference, they show you it's like

00:34:11.600 treasure map. You know who has done it and who themselves published to tell you this part,

00:34:17.520 I'm the expert. I have been done that for decades. I am the one who are using this technique,

00:34:22.880 but somehow leave evidence in the genome. This biologist, this biologist, now I can tell the name.

00:34:31.360 You check my first report. We have listed Batwoman Shi Zhengli. We have listed Dr. Li Feng in the University of

00:34:41.920 Minnesota. And we have listed their collaborators. Also, like Professor Malik Paris, who returned

00:34:50.640 immediately when I left Hong Kong, although he has millions of millions of funding and he decided to

00:34:56.880 work for another five to ten years in the University of Hong Kong, immediately returned. All these people,

00:35:02.880 why don't they come out to sue me, to argue with me using scientific way? But the Chinese Communist Party

00:35:10.400 using their way to suppress my report. I know this is, although we try our best,

00:35:18.080 write it in a plain way to make the common people can understand what happened. Still, I mean,

00:35:26.000 it's a little bit difficult for many readers to really understand the meaning. Then what I see is,

00:35:33.600 like in the National Geographic, that journal, the scientists who clearly has a strong correlation

00:35:44.960 with the Chinese Communist Party and also support the nature origins theory, come out to use lies

00:35:52.560 and the misinformation to mislead the readers. I have asked my team member, because I know the

00:36:01.200 Twitter account now. My team member has helped me to post some in English explanation online, also under the

00:36:10.080 Twitter of National Geographic. We point out all the lies. They cannot argue with us based on the scientific

00:36:18.640 things, but they can change the world. For example, if I say there is a knife, some people get killed. In the

00:36:26.240 home next to him, there is a knife, very specific shape, and also the knife has blood on that. And we

00:36:34.080 know this knife only belongs to the neighbor. This is evidence. But they explain it as everyone has a knife,

00:36:42.160 so knife means nothing. Do you understand the difference here? No, I get that. But what I'm trying

00:36:48.160 to say to you, I mean, look, when you, I've looked at the National Geographic, we'll get into that here in a

00:36:52.560 minute. When you came over here, you know, they asked the Chinese embassy about yourself. They

00:36:57.040 said they don't know who you are. They've never heard of this person before, meaning you

00:37:01.120 over here. But and then you're making these claims that this is, for a fact, manmade, which,

00:37:06.080 by the way, let's just say it is manmade. It would make, it would make life in America a lot easier,

00:37:11.920 because then all would happen is they would go face the tribunal, funeral court, and China would be

00:37:17.520 have to pay trillions of dollars of reparations, if it can be proven. But if it can be proven,

00:37:24.080 but the question I have is, you're saying you know, so why don't you unpack? I know on Tucker,

00:37:29.520 you talked about the fingerprints, how just like you have a fingerprint, can you unpack that and

00:37:34.640 explain that for a second? Okay, so basically, the finger, we have a very unique fingerprint,

00:37:41.280 which can identify you, right? So the virus, we can simply understand the genome as a fingerprint.

00:37:48.960 So based on this one, you don't say that we use some parameter, which may have different

00:37:57.120 definitions that different people have different understanding. No, this is just like fingerprints,

00:38:02.160 the solid one. So the people can recognize the virus genome and to say, oh, this is this virus,

00:38:08.960 that is that virus. And also, the way we know which virus involved from some other virus,

00:38:16.800 also based on the genome analysis. And this is just like for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, this is just 30,000

00:38:27.280 letters, you can call it letters, it's a nucleotide. And so based on this, what I can tell you is,

00:38:34.560 this clearly shows that it comes from bat coronavirus, the Zhuxian bat coronavirus discovered by military in China,

00:38:43.680 and also the unusual character in the virus, which leads to the very unusual, harmful result when they

00:38:54.400 attack human. So these things also you can see from the genome. And it's like for example, they equate

00:39:03.680 two functional parts, which was already shown in SARS, and also in other diesel virus like Ebola, high

00:39:10.720 pathogen, even flu. They equipped these two parts into one section, like it like human very much, without

00:39:19.920 any hesitation, they just bound to humans receptor. And also they leave the kind of, you can see this is

00:39:29.520 like, this is definitely the evidence in the genome, it shows that how they cut paste it from the other

00:39:39.120 thing to this genome. And also, you can see there are very, very specific identity between the e-protein to

00:39:50.400 the bat coronavirus, which means they are totally 100% the same, and it never happened in the other 0.88

00:39:57.920 similar, this kind of cross-species virus. So all these things together with other things, you can see

00:40:05.680 it's like you check the fingerprint, and you see the evidence of copy paste, and you see it come from

00:40:10.960 others, and these copy paste are meaningful to make it harmful. And who has done it? Those group of people

00:40:18.080 under Chinese Communist Party control, and they are the experts, they have working for decades, as I mentioned

00:40:24.800 in the reference list, they just focused on this, and they own the biggest virus bank in this field. They

00:40:32.800 are spending years collecting this virus all over China, all together. And I'm the one working on 0.66

00:40:40.160 vaccine development. I have my patent for the universal influenza vaccine unpending. But what I can tell

00:40:47.440 you all this change is not for the medical purpose of vaccine development at all. Another way you can

00:40:55.440 understand it is like you want to give a toy gun for your kids, but you have to remove the bullet. And

00:41:04.880 also you want to change it to plastic, not the steel one. But this one is like you said, I want to make a toy

00:41:11.840 for my kid. And then you keep the whole gun, and you add a sharp knife, you put one more miso, and you give

00:41:19.840 your kids, oh, this is your toy. Somehow, yeah, it's not safe, but good purpose. How could you believe

00:41:25.840 that? Yeah, so my follow up question to you on that would be who in the world is qualified, certified, trained,

00:41:33.840 educated enough to be able to identify the fingerprints like you described the genomes to understand that

00:41:41.120 this is man-made. What people in the world have to be able to do this? I think this actually, if they

00:41:48.640 really want to understand these things, the people who have biology or medical degrees, they can read

00:41:56.240 more things and they can check online. And even for the smart students in US, like the middle school kids,

00:42:04.400 I think the way they are doing searching online can also help them to understand this report. And also,

00:42:11.760 I have another report coming out soon to help them understand more about the relevant situation in this

00:42:18.720 case in a scientific way. And the one thing is you said there is no other people come out to support me,

00:42:27.440 but I do get support by the contact me directly or put recommend in my academic profile research

00:42:36.320 gate of this report. And also, we know many people because you know this academic field is actually a

00:42:46.160 very small group. And people usually focus on their own specific field and don't want to disturb to

00:42:54.160 the other field. So in this case, if the top virologist or famous coronavirologist, especially I told

00:43:02.960 you the ones who work with me work in China, they are the top people. So they say we have the theory already,

00:43:10.400 and then they have enough power together with the Chinese Communist Party and WHO, all these people to

00:43:17.600 influence this academic field. And later, there are more benefits. For example, when they publish the

00:43:25.280 nature theory, like Batwoman in February, there are problems. But later, more funding comes out to the

00:43:34.240 researchers based on the nature theory. And they use the funding to do this for the investigation. It's

00:43:42.720 very, very difficult for them now to admit that actually the fundamental theory is wrong, because that

00:43:50.640 will give them trouble to their investigation and their reputation. And also, Chinese government from the

00:43:58.000 early beginning, want people to start the animal is a host. This comes from the nature to human. And I can

00:44:06.720 tell you another fact, which I didn't tell in US media before, because I have no time, that just in 16,

00:44:16.160 yeah, 16 January this year, when my supervisor Liu Peng, he has no much information about China's

00:44:24.080 COVID-19 situation. But he asked me to focus on one type of animal called the raccoon dog.

00:44:34.160 So he showed me that picture from email, someone fed this information to him, that go to treat this

00:44:41.120 animal. See whether Wuhan people eat this thing, and it's like you want to get evidence. But I'm Chinese

00:44:47.920 people and I did the investigation. They think Chinese people doesn't like it. Maybe someone ate,

00:44:54.320 but it's never be a popular one or something specific in Wuhan or whatever. And there is no evidence

00:45:01.360 show that any animal DNA or animal residue left in any sample in Wuhan, because all the samples in the

00:45:11.200 seafood market was clean. And only 33 samples from the environment was collected by Chinese Communist Party

00:45:21.680 before 1st January to show the world that these are the environmental samples. And only one

00:45:28.880 water sample shows positive for SARS-CoV-2. That means no animal evidence from any sample in Wuhan,

00:45:38.880 but China government and also some people, they want later for the investigation just target to the

00:45:46.400 intermediate host. And the raccoon dog is like the suspicious target, like the seaweed in SARS-1

00:45:54.880 before provided to some researchers. So that's interesting you're sharing that. But for me,

00:46:02.240 it goes back to the same thing. It goes back to this needs to be somebody, I asked the question from you,

00:46:07.680 what expertise does somebody need to have a certification or training or degree to be able

00:46:12.720 to do the kind of research you did to find out that this is man-made? You said biology, medical degree.

00:46:18.160 So anybody that has a degree in biology or virology can go get access to coronavirus.

00:46:25.360 Someone has it, look at the virus and see it on the inside based on whatever kind of method that

00:46:31.120 doctors used to find out that it's man-made. Anybody can do that?

00:46:34.160 They have to make effort in reading the articles and then they need to understand the things behind

00:46:40.480 that. But that's not very difficult because I have seen that people message online or post on Twitter

00:46:46.800 that they read it. They have the bioengineer background or they have the molecular background

00:46:52.560 and they can understand. Let me come back on that. So let me ask you this question. So for example,

00:47:00.000 here's, you wrote your paper and National Geographic comes out and says,

00:47:04.000 why misinformation about COVID-19 origins keeps going viral? A Twitter firestorm promptly erupted.

00:47:09.040 Prominent virologists such as Kristen Anderson from Scripps Research and Carl Bergstrom from

00:47:14.080 University of Washington took to the internet and called out the paper for being unscientific.

00:47:18.640 chief among their complaints was that the report ignored the vast body of published literature

00:47:23.840 regarding what is known about how coronavirus circulate in wild animal populations and tendency

00:47:28.800 to spill over into humans, including recent publications about the origins of SARS-COVID-19.

00:47:34.160 The experts have pointed out that the report whipped up wild conspiracy theories and wrongly accused

00:47:39.840 academic journals of plotting with conspiracies and censoring important evidence. And on top of that,

00:47:46.400 Angela Rasmussen from Columbia University said, I'm going to scream if I have to explain the fact

00:47:52.400 that many viruses have cleavage sites, cleavage sites. They misdeed the information.

00:48:00.080 I'm going to come to a question to you. It looks legitimate because they use a lot of technical

00:48:06.320 jargon, but in reality, a lot of what they're saying doesn't really make any sense, says Rasmussen.

00:48:11.200 She has that the type of cloning that uses restriction enzymes and the outday is as very

00:48:15.840 outdated. And so it's unlikely to be used to make a viral bioweapon. And on a basic level,

00:48:21.680 making an engineered virus is not a trivial matter. Scientists are still

00:48:26.560 just trying to understand the molecular and genetic reasons why some viruses are more infectious than

00:48:31.840 others. Anyways, she continues, right? But this is where I'm going with this. Here's where I'm going

00:48:35.680 with this. I think it's fair to say this is a very important matter. Yes? We have seven and a half

00:48:41.120 billion people, nearly eight billion people in the world. This country named China has 1.393 billion

00:48:46.640 people. They have 85,000 cases. Only 4,600 people have died. They post a picture saying in Wuhan,

00:48:53.520 a water party was put together with concerts and people are out. Everything's back to normal.

00:48:58.560 Would you be comfortable, would you be able to, if you're in the same lab with Rasmussen,

00:49:05.600 with these other folks, Kristen Anderson, with Carl Bergstrom, with any of these other,

00:49:12.720 Jonathan Eisenhower, or, you know, would you be comfortable, would you be able to go in a lab

00:49:18.000 lab and show them exactly how you're able to prove that this is man-made, not just through animals?

00:49:26.960 Would you be able to get in it with a bunch of experts to say, here, let me show you, let me,

00:49:31.600 glad to show you here how I did it. Would you be able to do that?

00:49:34.000 Of course. I mean, you know what? Chris Anderson, he is the one who writes the famous paper who

00:49:42.000 supports the nature origin as a correspondent author and the first author. That paper's name

00:49:49.120 is the Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2, which tells people that this comes from nature and with a lot

00:49:57.520 of flaws in his theory. This one is published in February. And of course, he's the one who comes out

00:50:04.720 to say, this has never come from the lab. But if you check his Twitter, he can turn off his comment

00:50:14.560 when he comment about this thing. I mean, I'm the one suspended from Twitter. I won't tell the truth

00:50:20.240 to people. And I reply to people who rarely read my report and ask questions in ResearchGate. But why

00:50:27.120 him, as an expert in this field, face to these things, turn off his comments?

00:50:34.240 Don't allow people to open, discuss with him. And also, the other professor, like someone mentioned,

00:50:42.080 that is, things happen all around. And of course, this is not something specifically invented by

00:50:51.440 Chinese lab or by some labs. But as I said, this is something like the knife in the next to the dead

00:50:59.600 person. And very specific. Here, it means it's in that SARS-CoV-2 virus, that lineage B virus,

00:51:09.520 as we clearly mentioned in the sentence. In that type, that group of virus, we don't have this

00:51:16.480 cleavage site. And we have another figure, beautiful figure next to that explanation to show people, 1.00

00:51:22.560 see so many, so many, so many virus, know this site. But then you said in other virus, why don't

00:51:29.040 you talk about Ebola? Why don't you talk about influenza? We know you learn from those virus.

00:51:34.800 And that's why later, after the understanding of that virus cleavage site, it was purposely

00:51:42.960 equipped into this SARS-CoV-2 to make it more harmful.

00:51:47.360 So I stress it clearly in my report, but these people don't allow me to talk. And they just tell

00:51:55.840 the things, show their expert with the title in the journals and media. And if you check this kind of,

00:52:04.240 all this kind of article, actually, I have 26 pages, list the authors of those publications,

00:52:11.920 the people who can do it, who works with them, who are experts, who is good in this, they called some

00:52:18.400 old technique. No, that is classic, traditional. Even this year, that technique is published by Dr.

00:52:26.000 Li Feng in the University of Minnesota to show how they swept SARS-CoV-2, that part, to SARS.

00:52:33.680 We cite that paper and those experts using their position twice to mislead people who trust them.

00:52:42.080 who cannot read the paper or who don't have enough time to understand this paper.

00:52:48.480 And still, as I mentioned, first, I have the support from the real experts in U.S. government.

00:52:57.600 And also, I have feedback from other scientists and researchers who can understand this paper.

00:53:04.480 And the third thing is, like those people I listed in the report, who I showed that they can do it,

00:53:13.040 and they did it, to come to argue with me in a scientific way. I mean, welcome the live open debate,

00:53:22.240 but don't let people tell in journals, use the similar comment as, oh, this is not the academic

00:53:29.360 institution, just because I have to escape, and I'm faced with the life danger. And also,

00:53:35.040 drag it to political. This is not political. You guys make it political. This is about global health,

00:53:41.520 about chasing back to the pandemic, the reasons, about how to solve it from the beginning. It should

00:53:46.960 never happen from the beginning. And also, don't just use the same word again and again,

00:53:53.040 say, oh, this is nonsense, and this is hilarious, and use the lies mislead. Please, I have listed so

00:54:01.760 many, many smoking guns. Don't just drag a little bit of terms out and use your lies to cheat people.

00:54:10.720 That's my statement delivered to the world. You know what? When I published this paper, they said I

00:54:17.520 don't go through peer review because that is the very, how to say, scientific way to let people know

00:54:25.280 this is a real scientific paper. But how many scientific paper from nature science, their mindset was withdrawn,

00:54:34.240 was pointed out to be fake data, misinformation after peer review. Thousands. And when I submitted this

00:54:44.080 to the preprint website, the BioArchive, which is a big one under the Code Spring Harbor Laboratory,

00:54:54.720 I submitted it last Sunday, 7 p.m. Eastern Time. They said it usually takes 24 hours to publish online

00:55:02.720 because this is no peer review. Basically, just check the format. And the next morning, 8, from 8 a.m. to 9.30,

00:55:12.720 the whole website broke down. We have evidence who is scared of my article. And even the database is shut down,

00:55:21.760 broke down. The same database under the laboratory, the MedArchive and the ChemArchive are okay at that

00:55:29.680 time. But only the BioArchive get attacked. I believe that is hacked. We have evidence. That's why I have to

00:55:39.840 turn to Zenodo. Once we published it from Zenodo, just after several minutes, I told it on Twitter

00:55:46.880 that I published it. Zenodo got somehow attacked and broke down again. So who is scared of the report?

00:55:56.560 I put myself to be responsible for the things I state. And I welcome the fair life argue, open argue based on

00:56:07.280 the scientific evidence about these things. But why did I get silence? And you say, Tucker interviewed me,

00:56:16.880 and Tucker also get attacked, get suppressed. And how could you let the other, I mean, scientists and

00:56:26.240 researchers come out, support me in public? I mean, someone support me. But if you want them to go to

00:56:33.280 media, you know, they have to face to the attack. Is this, is this something, is this something that

00:56:42.160 if we got the top 20, you guys all clash, you don't agree, you don't know what you're talking about,

00:56:48.480 you're all these people, all of you together in the same room in a lab, how many days would it take

00:56:54.080 for you to be able to be able to prove, not papers, in a lab, how much time would you need to be able to

00:56:59.360 prove this is manmade? To be clear, you mean, to let people really understand, like, for example,

00:57:06.000 I give a presentation to explain it to the people in the lab, whether they can understand or not,

00:57:12.000 do you mean that? Well, how did you find out that this is manmade? Didn't you go in the lab and go

00:57:16.320 through the virus and dissect the virus to find out? I mean, this is, I already provide the way you can

00:57:22.640 reconstruct it in the lab. So, in the part two, part two. So, did you reconstruct it in a lab the

00:57:29.040 first time you found out it's manmade? Not by myself, I gave you the way that is available and using

00:57:36.400 the traditional way is convenient in my, which is listed in the part two of my report from this one.

00:57:43.920 It's like a recipe and with every step, I mean, of course, you can argue the little bit change and

00:57:50.560 because I'm not the one who watched them doing this for all the time in the Wuhan lab.

00:57:56.080 How long would that cost? Six months, six months minimum.

00:58:00.400 So, look, here's why I'm saying this. Look, for me, I'm skeptical about both sides, okay? And I like

00:58:08.000 being skeptical about both sides because I don't have a hundred percent data on both sides. I don't

00:58:12.560 know if it's manmade. I don't know if it's natural. I, quite frankly, don't trust both sides a hundred

00:58:19.200 percent. And I kind of want to hear it. I want to see all the people. This is why we have debates.

00:58:23.600 This is why we put Biden and Trump in a room on September 29 to debate and see what we can believe.

00:58:29.600 And we get to choose who we want as a president. If Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is watching this,

00:58:35.760 which I have a feeling they're going to watch this. I know Bannon is going to watch this.

00:58:38.480 I know all those guys are going to watch it. My recommendation is, why don't you guys call

00:58:43.120 for all the skeptics to come in the same room together, including yourself,

00:58:46.720 and hash it out and let us watch it. Let us watch this debate.

00:58:50.560 And one more thing, very important, you know, so why don't these people I listed in the report come out?

00:58:58.560 They are the ones, if they feel offense, if they feel this is some lies and which humiliates them

00:59:06.320 or ruins their reputation, they should, they should come out and go to that room, debate with me, face to me.

00:59:14.720 I will comment. I will comment.

00:59:18.560 I would like it to be alive. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, live. Let us all judge for ourselves

00:59:24.320 with the way people react and how you guys go back and forth. Because I don't think this is one of

00:59:28.720 those things where, uh, uh, uh, this is not who's a better rapper. This is not who the better basketball

00:59:35.200 player is because people's lives don't, are not on the line. Million people have died because it is

00:59:40.080 nearly a million people have died because of this, the way that the reports have come out.

00:59:44.240 This is a very important matter. The world stopped for six months. Trillions of dollars were lost

00:59:49.200 because if this is manmade, they need to be held accountable. And if you, based on your research

00:59:54.960 that you're making, you're not right. I think we also need to know that you were wrong in certain

00:59:58.880 places. I think that's what I want to know myself. So, but let me go to a different angle here.

01:00:02.960 Let me go to a different angle here. Lee Wenliang. Okay. This was a gentleman, uh, ophthalmologist

01:00:09.120 who worked in Wuhan Central Hospital. Uh, on September 30th, he sent a message to a group of

01:00:14.080 fellow doctors warning them about a possible outbreak of an illness that resembled severe

01:00:18.720 respiratory syndrome, SARS in Wuhan Hubei province, China, where he worked at. This was meant to be

01:00:24.160 private. He encouraged them to protect themselves, uh, uh, from the infection. Days later, he was

01:00:29.680 summoned to public security bureau in Wuhan, made to sign a statement in which he was accused of

01:00:34.480 making false statements that disturbed the public order. He died on February 7th, 2020.

01:00:40.720 Did you get a chance to meet him? Did you have a relationship with him?

01:00:43.520 My friend knew him. This is a small group. We are the similar age, the doctors. And just the 31 December,

01:00:51.840 even before the news come out, I already heard about that. And, uh, also, uh, Dr. Lee Wenliang

01:01:00.560 Sins already get known as doctors in Wuhan at that time. So even among alumni group, when the doctor

01:01:09.360 from other cities to confirm this, the doctors in Wuhan, they're allowed to say anything because

01:01:15.280 government don't allow them to talk about it. They just show the mask emoji. People know,

01:01:21.280 shut up, but wear mask. This was shown in the Fox news that documentary, the 30 minutes when released 0.59

01:01:28.480 in July. So a follow up to this question here is, uh, they say he died from coronavirus. There's

01:01:36.160 a lot of conspiracies about him. Are there any other stories, you know, since a friend of yours was

01:01:40.400 friends with them? What do they know how he died? He was punished by this as an ophthalmologist. He was sent to

01:01:49.280 do the first time to treat the patients. And at that time, as I said, no enough protection in Wuhan,

01:01:57.280 right? And even later, government didn't give them enough protection. And also I can tell you,

01:02:03.440 Lee Wenliang, although government now don't admit and they even push his family to keep silent,

01:02:09.840 but leaving their death is because of the postpone of treatment previously from government.

01:02:15.680 Postpone of treatment from the government. So they didn't treat him and they wanted him.

01:02:20.400 So indirectly, what you're saying is that was their way of executing him.

01:02:25.280 Uh, sorry. That is your interpretation that that's their way of making him die or not even letting him

01:02:31.840 die. So if he can get the treatment, the rest on time and things can be changed. Okay. All right.

01:02:39.200 Yeah. As a doctor, I cannot say a hundred percent or something, but you know the chance.

01:02:43.440 When you make comments like that, when you make comments like that to me,

01:02:46.720 I see you're reasonable. You're not emotional. I ask it because I want to see if you're going to give

01:02:50.560 me an emotional reaction and you didn't, which means you gain credibility to know that you're not

01:02:55.120 coming from a place of anger or you're not upset. You're just trying to get to the truth. And I respect

01:03:00.320 that on May 4th, 2020, the FBI issued a statement on a new investigation. China-affiliated cyber

01:03:08.160 actors have been both targeting and compromising US organization conducting COVID-19 related research.

01:03:14.000 These attacks aim to steal research results related to vaccines, treatments, and vaccines. And according

01:03:19.520 to Wall Street Journal, US officials stated that China and Iran started such attacks as early as

01:03:25.440 January 3rd to try to get data from America to see what they're doing because they wanted to find

01:03:33.040 out more about COVID. In the space of China, when you're there and you lived there for 30 years,

01:03:41.040 there is the media, there's news on what you watch on TV, and then there's real talk on how people

01:03:45.920 talk behind closed doors, right? Yes. How are the people, how do they see China, the media, the

01:03:56.320 government, the CCP, how do majority of people in China, the populace behind closed doors, see the

01:04:02.400 government and the CCP? I mean, to be honest, the propaganda in China is quite powerful. Surveillance is

01:04:10.640 quite strong. And after decades of decades brainwashed, there are really certain parts of Chinese people are brainwashed.

01:04:19.840 And also that our Chinese government wants that kind of education to people. But for the people who

01:04:27.840 realize the society, I mean, at home, in private, or tell them, maybe when they are talking to kids,

01:04:36.000 they will tell you that they complain to the government. And they know, for example, in different

01:04:42.160 aspects, like you go to school, you face to the unfair things, unfair treatment. And you go to work for

01:04:50.640 the promotion, for the competition, there are different unfair treatment. And also in the media,

01:04:58.560 we have to say the false news, like fake news. For example, our ministry of the diploma always tell that

01:05:06.800 the US spread the virus to China. It origins from Europe, US salmon, and even outer space. People cannot

01:05:15.280 say no in public, but deeply inside, I mean, the smart people say no, these are the lies. The thing is,

01:05:22.960 they are scared of the government. And also, that's why there are not only me, there are some other

01:05:29.520 people also wake up and dare to tell the truth through different ways. Like for example, all this

01:05:37.440 media, the broadcasts, all donate to the Rule of Law Foundation to support people who are fighting for

01:05:43.760 this, fighting for the truth. So that's very interesting what you're saying. So do people in China have

01:05:51.440 access to VPNs, to get on Facebook or YouTube, anybody in China have access to anywhere outside? Because when I

01:06:00.640 was speaking to Nomi Prince, who used to work at Goldman Sachs, she told me, she said when she would stay at the

01:06:05.440 Ritz or at the hotel, in the business center lobby at the highest level, they had access to social media, Facebook,

01:06:14.560 and news. So if they did, wouldn't there be other ways for the people of China to be able to see and

01:06:21.520 follow the news in US or other places?

01:06:23.760 I mean, using VPN, right? So VPN is not safe for them. The government allows some VPN to be used

01:06:32.320 between certain people, for example, working in the foreign companies in China, or the top people in

01:06:38.640 the universities, or some like this, or some common people who buy VPN online. But I can tell you first,

01:06:45.120 the VPN is very unstable in China. The VPN is easy to get ineffective at any time. And also, once government

01:06:53.920 want to chase you through VPN, they did it, they can do it. And there are many cases happen in China that

01:07:00.720 because they use VPN, so government even put them to prison. So this other thing, and another thing is, there is a

01:07:08.880 special military called cyber military online, which is actually maintained by Chinese Communist Party, and

01:07:16.960 they recruit the prisoners, all the students, all the common people, and just to do the propaganda things and

01:07:24.240 attack the truth against the Chinese Communist Party, and also target like me online. So these people, they need to go

01:07:33.600 through VPN. Yeah, they need to go through VPN. So okay, so here's another question for you. I interviewed

01:07:40.560 Yanemi Park, who was a defector from North Korea, she went to China, then South Korea, then she came over. 0.53

01:07:47.440 I heard about that. You've heard about her. And she gave a talk, you got 50 million views in a couple days.

01:07:53.520 She said in North Korea, they called Americans, American bastards, is what they call them. What does the media 0.97

01:08:02.240 in China in China call Americans? If you check the global time, you check the CCTV, and you check the

01:08:12.560 Ministry of Diploma, that their statement, I mean, they called like Pompeo as, I say how to translate

01:08:19.360 like all the people's enemy, like this kind of word. And they use liars, and even bad words to describe

01:08:30.080 this. And also, another thing I can tell you, that I'm not sure how many U.S. people know this,

01:08:38.960 but our Chinese government always try to use the people's unknown about U.S. to make them have some

01:08:48.400 strong emotion against the U.S. government. For example, during 9-1-1 time, I was a middle school

01:08:58.960 student. At that time, when 9-1-1 happened, our government put it on news and allowed the students

01:09:07.840 to watch it and encourage people to applaud for that, because it happened in U.S.

01:09:19.280 So, they encourage this kind of things. Although, at that time, we are young. I mean,

01:09:24.320 I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels uncomfortable for this situation, but we cannot speak it out,

01:09:32.400 because we are still young, and the teachers and the government, they won't lead you to that,

01:09:40.640 you know, opposite side to show that this is something happening in U.S., and because they are our,

01:09:48.240 you know, enemy or not friend. I mean, this is very bad. I don't want to harm U.S. people's feeling,

01:09:53.840 and I want to stress, we Chinese people are in nonsense, because this is a government-led propaganda.

01:10:01.440 Even you won't be against that, you cannot speak out, because you will be kept silent immediately.

01:10:07.760 Here's another question for you. Who on media does China paint as good people? Like, you know, 0.99

01:10:14.720 if we're in U.S., you'll see the media, you know, they'll say they're friendly with

01:10:21.360 Israel. They'll say they're friendly with, you know, certain countries that have good relationships with,

01:10:26.720 and you'll see it from media, you'll see it from the government, you'll see it from the politicians.

01:10:30.480 Pretty consistent that we have good relations with certain nations. What countries do China,

01:10:36.720 does China paint the media as being friendly? Like, what does China say about Iran and North Korea?

01:10:44.080 Well, I think they call them the good friends, right? Because we say it in Iran, yeah, our good friend,

01:10:50.960 I mean, from the code as a government, good friend. North Korea, always good friend. I mean,

01:10:58.160 this you can verify from the news. And if you need, I think there are many people can translate it

01:11:04.880 from Chinese to English and provide the material because it's in public. They are our traditional

01:11:11.040 friends. Anybody else that's your traditional friend of China, like Iran, North Korea, any other

01:11:16.080 countries or no? Sorry? Any other that are considered good friends like Iran and North Korea?

01:11:23.600 I think they sometimes have some other good friends and it's just up to the situation whether they

01:11:30.240 collaborate with them. Sometimes you as a friend too, you as a friend, when they are making the deals

01:11:38.240 or when you support them. That makes sense. Again, you say things like that, it gives you more credibility

01:11:44.720 because you sound reasonable when you're saying what you're saying. You know, the other part I want to

01:11:49.680 bring up is you've been talking about the fact that you're not safe, you don't feel safe,

01:11:56.240 so you can't disclose where you're at because China may be coming after you. And even this interview,

01:12:01.120 we're not conducting on Zoom. The interview is being done on a completely different platform for

01:12:05.280 you to feel safe, which we accommodated. Of course, we would accommodate that. But why do you not feel

01:12:11.840 safe for your life? Like what can China really do to you? You're in America. How could they hurt you?

01:12:16.320 Oh, they have many ways to do it. I am under protection now. And what I can tell you is,

01:12:24.400 for example, my iPhone, the one I was using in China, contact holder, and I bring to the US,

01:12:31.520 and even FBI hold it for several days for the evidence. That phone was hacked. And during June,

01:12:39.280 when the Fox News gave the exclusive shot with me for four hours, and at last, they said, oh, we want

01:12:46.640 to check the some evidence on your phone. I said, okay, just hide my friend's identity. And I show the

01:12:53.120 phone to them. I remind them, be careful. Chairman, she may smile to you through my phone. And they

01:12:58.640 laugh. Ah, funny. And when I switch on my phone, and there is no internet, no SIM card inside. Once I

01:13:08.320 switch it on, I switch the WeChat on, their camera detects the infrared, unknown infrared from my iPhone,

01:13:16.720 and they are scared. The host and the staff, they said, what happened? And I laughed, my lawyer laughed.

01:13:24.560 I said, I told you, they hacked it, right? And also, like in the Bill Hammer show, I got the live

01:13:30.960 interview in the unknown location. I tried my best. I mean, you can see almost like here, only the wall

01:13:38.160 behind me. But somehow, the Chinese cyber military people, those agents analyzed my video and located

01:13:48.400 and posted online to treat me, said, we know you have a location here. Sometimes they did the wrong

01:13:53.920 analyze, like where I get the Fox News interview. They said somewhere else, but they did it wrong.

01:14:00.400 But that means these people always focus on me. And I have to move from Manhattan to now this is

01:14:06.960 a new place, because that place is closed. I cannot tell you the specific things.

01:14:13.600 I don't want you to tell me your location. Yeah, all these things.

01:14:16.480 No, I don't want you to tell me your location. What I am asking you is,

01:14:19.920 so what if they know where you're at? What are they going to do to you? I mean, you're in America.

01:14:24.000 You know, they're not here. You are in America. Yeah, but you see, I am the witness in the whole

01:14:29.680 pandemic from the early beginning. And I'm the scientist and doctor. I can explain the things to

01:14:37.280 people in a reasonable, scientific way, combined with intelligence and other things. And also,

01:14:44.720 I'm the one who did it from mid-January, which was the first one in the world. They cannot deny.

01:14:50.720 Now they try to say, I'm the one just come out after half a year. So I collect information online to

01:14:57.120 tell them, no, we have the broadcast online recording the time and the thing I was told. I told people,

01:15:03.280 right? So this all together and with the evidence I have, they know if I am silent, I disappeared.

01:15:12.880 It's very, very difficult for U.S. people and for government to find another one to tell the truth.

01:15:21.520 And that will help Chinese Communist Party a lot. Are you currently in communication with anybody in

01:15:27.840 China? Have some of you reached out to you? No. Even my family, I shut down and cut off all the 1.00

01:15:34.480 connections. Makes sense. Has the Trump administration at all reached out to you to

01:15:38.400 offer protection? Some senior people from the government, what I can tell you, including the

01:15:43.520 experts, they talk to me. Some of them have. Some of them have. Yeah, some of them already have done that.

01:15:50.240 And also they read my report even before I publish it. So that's why the question about peer

01:15:56.560 review. Or take credit before you published it. Yeah. Okay. Totally convinced. That's why when I get

01:16:02.720 a text that you don't have peer review. No, it's okay. I just think this is an urgent thing. And in case

01:16:09.760 the other power try to manipulate or reject it or hide it, I want to show a peer review to the world,

01:16:17.680 to anyone as a peer review. If you are, if your sources are that accurate of what you're saying,

01:16:27.440 and if I'm on the Trump administration and I'm watching this, I would want to protect you. I

01:16:33.840 wouldn't want to leave you where you are. I would need to offer protection at the highest level to

01:16:37.920 bring you in in case, God forbid, something were to happen. In case, God forbid, something were to

01:16:43.600 happen. Because if what you say is true, this could be the biggest cover up of this century.

01:16:52.880 Yes. If what you say is true, it could take decades,

01:16:59.840 generations for China to regain trust from other nations. If what you say is true. And it's a big if.

01:17:07.280 And I'm hoping the people on this side from National Geographic that's owned by Disney, I'm hoping

01:17:13.200 Daily Beast, I'm hoping these doctors, Rasmussen, I'm hoping all of these folks that are calling you

01:17:18.880 out, I'm hoping they agree to do a debate or even sit down where we can kind of make a decision for

01:17:26.800 ourselves on what's going on over here. So, you know, before I wrap up the interview, I want to give

01:17:32.480 you the floor and give you the final words. Assume at this point, this video stays up. Hopefully,

01:17:38.880 YouTube sees this as a fair interview and they keep it up. They're pretty good to us. Assume

01:17:43.040 this video stays up. And many people have watched this. What would you like to leave the viewer?

01:17:48.320 The viewer could be folks in the White House. The viewer could be average day to day people that

01:17:53.680 want to be educated. The viewer could be a couple of these doctors that called you out. The viewer

01:17:58.400 could be many of the media platforms that are going to write negative reviews about this article,

01:18:02.880 and they're going to contact me to want to write the paper because this has happened in the past

01:18:05.760 before. What would you like to say to people? Okay, the first thing is I want to tell the audience that

01:18:12.640 I do it just because I'm the doctor, I'm the scientist. When I say the truth, when I know the truth,

01:18:20.720 I know that is urgent for the global health. It's not for me, for myself, and not for my family. It is

01:18:28.640 for everyone. I mean, everyone deserves the truth. Everyone has to protect yourself, protect your family,

01:18:36.800 and we should get void of such pandemic soon. And the only way to solve this one is to understand

01:18:46.080 why it happened, how it happened, who did it, and then go back to the fundamental beginning.

01:18:55.040 It's like the doctor treats the patient. If you don't know why he got the infection, you don't know

01:19:01.040 the pathogen, and this may come back again and again, become recurrent. We should not allow this

01:19:07.840 thing happen in the future. We have to protect our next generation, protect the people who we love.

01:19:15.520 So everyone can go to Zenodo, or go to my ResearchGate's academic profile, or go to some other database

01:19:23.680 where people share this report there. This is for free, open access, only 26 pages. Please, this is

01:19:32.000 related to yourself. Read it, learn it, you will know what I said, and I will show the next report.

01:19:41.200 Together, as Chinese Communist Party and WHO claimed, that we need scientific evidence. These are the

01:19:48.720 scientific evidence. What I do is not because of the reputation or any other benefit, just to let you

01:19:56.240 know the truth. You can go to verify by yourself, but don't just mislead by some report. Go to check

01:20:05.280 the report by yourself, and you will know the truth. Thank you.

01:20:10.160 Dr. Lee Meng-Yen, thank you so much for your time. We're going to put the link to the research below

01:20:15.040 for people to go read for themselves. I had a chance to read the whole 26 pages myself. I highly

01:20:19.520 recommend for the viewer, if you're watching this, if it's up, I highly recommend you share this,

01:20:22.880 text it, tweet it, Facebook it, share it on Instagram, wherever it may be for a conversation

01:20:28.640 to get started. The biggest thing for me is to start the dialogue, and hopefully this can lead to

01:20:34.240 us getting to the truth. Whatever the truth, maybe that's all I'm interested in. I want to know what's

01:20:38.960 really going on over here. Again, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for agreeing to this

01:20:43.040 exclusive long-form interview. I believe this is the longest interview you've done. I appreciate you

01:20:48.480 being willing to have the courage to come on and be a guest on Valuetainment.

01:20:51.920 Thank you very much, and I thank you for all your effort to spreading this fact to the people. Thank

01:20:58.160 you. Thank you. I'm curious. Do you believe her? Do you believe her story? Do you believe what

01:21:04.880 she's saying is true? Is it man-made? Is it not? I mean, you saw some areas where she got pushed.

01:21:10.160 A couple things that makes me think about it is, number one, she didn't tell me to not ask her

01:21:13.920 anything. Like, she didn't say, you can interview me, but you can't ask me XYZ. Obviously, I didn't ask

01:21:18.160 about family, but she didn't say, you can't ask me about anything. You know what I mean? So in

01:21:22.400 certain ways, you're watching it to see if she's telling the truth or not. I'd love to see all those

01:21:25.920 guys come together and hash it out in debate, because this is an international matter. It's a

01:21:31.120 foreign matter. It's something that the world was affected by. But do you believe her? Comment below.

01:21:35.520 And by the way, if you enjoyed her interview, I also did an interview with Yoanmi Park, who was another

01:21:41.040 defector who escaped North Korea, and she went to China, and then South Korea, and eventually ended up

01:21:45.520 being here. And she gave a message, I believe, at 13, 14 years old, that the video got 50 million

01:21:50.880 views in two days, when she gave her talk about what her experience was like escaping North Korea.

01:21:55.120 But there's a lot we're learning about, you know, North Korea, South Korea, and China. And if you've

01:22:00.720 not seen that interview, click over. You're going to watch that interview. If you're not subscribed to

01:22:03.600 the channel, please do so as well. Thank you for watching, everybody. Take care. Bye-bye.

Valuetainment - September 23, 2020

Chinese Virologist Reveals Coronavirus Cover Up by CCP - EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

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