In this episode, Ron Perlman talks about his military career and how he got recruited by the Trump administration. He also talks about how he ended up in the White House and why he thinks the CIA may have been involved in a cover-up.
00:00:12.820So let me give you the 30-second brief on my career.
00:00:18.100I was a—I've been a soldier since I was 17, started in the Canadian Army, came to the American Army, went through several selections until I got to—I was in the CRIF.
00:00:32.260Half of my training is intelligence, however, so human intelligence.
00:00:36.620And while I was doing all this, I'm so insane and such a crazy mercenary that I was able to build three fairly profitable real estate companies, one in Germany and two here in the United States.
00:00:51.800I did all these things because I was capable.
00:00:56.640I work hard, and I have a very strong work ethic.
00:00:58.680But fast-forwarding to when I leave the military, I get out, and I start my company because at that time, there's a lot of school shootings.
00:01:14.780I'm not—I don't take contracts like Eric Prince.
00:01:17.620I solve intricate problems, and I did this when I left the military.
00:01:22.900For instance, you know, I had a team in Hurricane Marina.
00:01:26.260I bought—Maria hit Puerto Rico at half the island.
00:01:29.020And we protected essentially the AT&T personnel who were trying to reestablish communication through the island.
00:01:38.080And so I used negotiation skills with local cartels and gangs to just basically have them not attack my people and reestablish these communication networks.
00:01:51.900I get recruited by the Trump administration under Keith Schiller, who's a good friend of Donald Trump, as you know, and worked in the White House as head of White House operations.
00:02:05.260This is the pond that the Trump administration was swimming in at the time.
00:02:08.860The Trump administration was embattled, as we're seeing now with all the documents with, you know, Christopher Wray and the FBI, who's bugging congressmen like—or senators like Hawley and so on and so forth.
00:02:23.020That Russia collusion hoax was on—this was on the heels of the Russia collusion hoax, as well as the Mueller report, which the FBI agent who built my case, she was part of the Mueller report investigation.
00:02:37.440But the bottom line is there was a civil war going on in the White House.
00:02:41.780You had National Security Council, Mike Pompeo, Abrams, Gina Haspel, who were undermining the commander-in-chief's intent, President Trump's intent.
00:03:47.880And might I just add, I mean, when you're recruited by the highest office in the land, it's not like you're going to say no, right?
00:04:00.200And so, yeah, of course I'm going to do this.
00:04:01.920They did at some point want me to meet, and I want to make this very clear.
00:04:06.860They wanted me to meet with the president of the United States, and I refused.
00:04:12.080And it was kind of strange to me that they would want me to meet with the president because one of these guys was a very astute human intelligence operative.
00:04:20.760He was part of Task Force Orange, which is the Army's advanced – it's a special mission unit.
00:05:43.780I also did my due diligence with the recognized Venezuelan opposition under Juan Guaido.
00:05:48.960I had a signed contract with Juan Guaido, which – let me just put it this way.
00:05:55.120I was in the room with two presidents for this.
00:05:57.260How does a crazy lunatic mercenary get in the room with presidents, diplomats, strategists, geopolitical strategists, and other members who are working in the U.S. government and the Venezuelan opposition government and the Colombian government?
00:07:04.060Is this the meeting where they agreed to $212 million, and then they ended up saying they're going to give $1.5 million up front, but they only gave $50,000?
00:07:15.920And are those numbers accurate, the $212.9 million, $1.5 million, $50,000 for expenses at the beginning stages?
00:07:24.620So the expenses at the beginning stages, they didn't care about.
00:07:27.300That is what Rendon said, but that was – I mean, really, it was a down payment on the $1.5 million.
00:07:34.500It was a down payment on the $1.5 million.
00:07:36.600Then where does the figure $212.9 million come from?
00:07:40.900This figure is essentially – it's arbitrary.
00:07:45.480It is essentially just trying to find backing for the later stages of this operation.
00:07:51.120The first stage of the operation is really supposed to be a link-up.
00:07:53.880It is essentially – so the way – what I did, like the work that I did for a year and a half prepping this entire thing was I aggregated assets in Venezuela that were very close to Nicolas Maduro who had task and maneuver units.
00:08:10.140That is to say that they were able to mobilize military units inside of Caracas to facilitate the capture of Nicolas Maduro, right?
00:08:22.860There was no special operation, crazy invasion thing.
00:08:28.520It was – this entire operation was designed to be a military coup where Venezuela essentially – it's not really a coup.
00:08:36.700You're just – you're taking a recognized dictator in Nicolas Maduro and the military, the Venezuelan military are actioning.
00:08:44.680So I'm just providing a bit of a catalyst and some strategy.
00:08:50.260Now, was this money, the 212 that's thrown around, is that upon completion and succeeding, you're going to get that money assuming Juan would be in and he would have the access to that type of money to be able to pay you?
00:09:05.920Is that what the – when would that payment be prompted?
00:09:09.440So this was another meeting that I had with people in the White House and it was made very clear to me that the money would flow once the first part was done and the first part was quite simple.
00:09:25.840My plan called for three parts, right?
00:09:27.960The first piece was just to catalyze and to have the U.S. – or sorry, the Venezuelan – these Venezuelan generals do the heavy lifting.
00:09:35.720To catalyze that, I needed to have a face-to-face with these guys to know that I was on the level, which this is not a playbook that I came up with.
00:09:46.440This is the playbook for successful regime change, I guess we want to call it, or whatever, like trying to oust dictators.
00:09:53.420And so I follow a very simple, you know, follow a pretty strict set of rules when I did this.
00:10:01.920Ultimately, what would happen is Maduro would have either, you know, fled the country or been replaced, but really it was three individuals.
00:10:10.020Tariq, Al-Asami, it was Cabello, and it was Maduro back then.
00:10:14.100So really, the first part of the operation is to catalyze that change, have the Venezuelan military come in and remove these – the bad leadership.
00:10:23.420And then what ends up happening next is you have a countercoup.
00:10:26.420And this countercoup is where the money needs to start flowing.
00:10:36.060I wasn't worried about the money after the fact.
00:10:38.480Once the countercoup is complete, the countercoup basically is when you have other warring factions, which is largely opposition factions or, you know, whoever else is going to be trying to take control once there's a power vacuum.
00:10:52.640I have enough money that I can align – I can basically align with the Venezuelan military and have some of my Americans come hit the ground and be able to provide mentorship and leadership to some of these – you know, to the valid Venezuelan military.
00:11:11.840The third stage is really just reconstruction and humanitarian, right, and keying up for fair and free elections in Venezuela.
00:12:03.280So Beardsley wasn't part of those conversations.
00:12:05.500He was part of other conversations but not the money conversation.
00:12:09.540Don't you think if you're negotiating something that big and Drew Horn is not a decision maker – and Drew Horn was an aide to Pence, if I'm not mistaken, right?
00:12:21.960So if he's an aide to Pence, you know, one may question, why would you just based on a meeting with an aide automatically believe that this is a real thing?
00:12:34.880There's a confluence of factors, right?
00:12:36.380So you have Keith Schiller telling me the exact same thing.
00:12:40.280You have full authorization from the White House.
00:12:43.100I have Drew Horn telling me a full authorization from the White House.
00:12:47.160I have a contract with Juan Guido, which he's not doing anything without White House approval.
00:12:52.460I have a White House meeting between Keith Schiller and two other individuals immediately following my meeting with Juan Guido – or with the Zoom meeting with Juan Guido to sign the contract.
00:13:06.580And so everything – and furthermore, I don't – when I'm given a mission in the military, I don't – look, there's no generals that come and tell us that – I don't go and talk to the general and say, hey, are you sure that this is authorized?
00:13:20.460Maybe – I think you need to sign – you need to sign your life for – no, it doesn't work that way, right?
00:13:25.880And there's no – and what's more is this, the president – and I don't care who the president is.
00:13:31.720I don't care if it's a Democrat president.
00:13:33.580I don't care if it's a Republican president.
00:14:06.880We met several times in Washington, D.C.
00:14:10.040It's a bona fide member of the U.S. government who has contacts in the National Security Council.
00:14:18.060He – you know, he's Trump's son's good friend.
00:14:21.620And furthermore, I mean, look, this – it wasn't just one meeting.
00:14:28.960It was several meetings over the course of several months.
00:14:33.220Furthermore, and Donald Trump's – I met with Donald Trump's – you know, the legal team of the president, George Sorial, Travis Lucas, who are telling me the exact same thing.
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