Valuetainment - March 12, 2026


“Consequences Are CATASTROPHIC” - Rita Panahi PRAISES Brave Iranians Protesting Sharia Law


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

Words per Minute

157.45404

Word Count

2,407

Sentence Count

140

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

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Rob and Rowan are joined by the late supreme leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, to discuss his final words to his own son and daughter-in-law, who was killed by Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) soldiers in the wake of the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 With Khamenei, when the war happened, within 24 hours, they killed almost everybody, right?
00:00:06.140 And I believe even they injured Mochitab, the son of Khamenei, who is now the new prime minister.
00:00:12.060 I heard they injured him as well.
00:00:13.580 And you had some real nice, sweet, this is probably the sweetest I've seen you.
00:00:19.320 Here's what you had to say to Khamenei.
00:00:21.140 I thought it was very sentimental, Rob.
00:00:22.600 If you want to play this clip, go for it.
00:00:24.480 We'll conclude this editorial with this message to the late supreme leader.
00:00:30.000 Peder Sag, Khaak Besarad, Besouz to Jahannam.
00:00:36.600 Rowan.
00:00:37.320 Couldn't have put it better myself, Fritz.
00:00:38.860 I agree.
00:00:40.020 A little bit of gibberish.
00:00:41.320 I don't have anything on top of that.
00:00:44.000 Translation, you're amazing.
00:00:46.360 May you rest in peace.
00:00:47.760 No, in other words.
00:00:48.800 Cuddles.
00:00:49.220 You son of a burning hell.
00:00:51.960 And Khaak Besarad, we said it's what?
00:00:54.140 Dirt over your head, right?
00:00:55.380 Dirt on your head.
00:00:56.180 But essentially it's a message of you should feel deep shame.
00:01:00.660 But, yeah, Persian sayings are like that.
00:01:02.260 When you do the literal translation, it just seems ridiculous.
00:01:05.100 But it means, yeah, Chokbak Besarad means dirt on your head.
00:01:10.880 Pedarsag means, really, your father's a dog.
00:01:13.720 Not your mom.
00:01:14.500 Yes, it's not exactly son of a bitch, but it's kind of, you know.
00:01:18.620 And burn in hell is universal.
00:01:20.500 Yes, it is.
00:01:21.800 So why?
00:01:22.280 Why do you feel that way about Khamenei?
00:01:24.000 Why do you feel that way about him?
00:01:25.060 It's destroyed hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of lives.
00:01:28.740 I mean, it's not just the people who were slaughtered, people tortured,
00:01:33.180 people killed for political dissent, but the lives that have been robbed.
00:01:38.980 The Islamic Revolution sent the country back.
00:01:43.300 You know, Iran was relatively modern, secular.
00:01:47.220 You look at the pictures of my mum, be the same with your family.
00:01:51.900 They look like they were in any European or any American city, you know.
00:01:56.460 My mum's pictures, the last ones I've heard before the Islamic Revolution,
00:02:01.220 beehive hair and miniskirts and, you know,
00:02:04.420 and then you have this Islamist takeover
00:02:09.940 and women are second-class citizens.
00:02:13.000 They're forced to cover up, so that's a very visible sign,
00:02:15.680 but obviously the oppression is far more broad than that.
00:02:21.900 just freedom's gone you can get stoned to death for adultery for witchcraft for leaving the
00:02:32.520 religion for blasphemy I mean it's just madness to see that happen to a country like Iran which
00:02:38.640 means it can happen anywhere and that's why I think so many people who have fled those sorts
00:02:44.980 of countries are super sensitive to signs of it in the west because if you've already escaped it
00:02:50.760 wants you don't want to be escaping it again yeah so people will see this and they'll say okay so
00:02:58.840 then why have they stayed in power for 47 years if it's so evil why is it still in power for 47
00:03:04.380 years when you think about the shah after mosader when they came in the mi6 and the cia was involved
00:03:10.960 and we've all heard about i think it was called operation ajax if i'm not mistaken and um mosader
00:03:17.380 went and lived in a village all by himself and then the Shah came for 26 years and Iran was great
00:03:22.020 was doing great you know people would go to Iran they would travel their vacation so he could only
00:03:27.380 hold it together for 26 years but these guys have held it together for 47 years how well because
00:03:33.620 they are so brutal and we just saw recently the protests that occurred and they just went out and
00:03:41.020 gunned down people they killed thousands so as fed up as the population is it takes a lot to take to
00:03:51.280 the streets knowing you could be shot dead you could be locked up your family targeted and people
00:03:57.660 still showed up night after night despite the mass slaughter so you're going out there with a real
00:04:04.740 possibility that you're going to die or you're going to have some catastrophic outcome in your
00:04:10.340 lives so that takes a lot that takes a lot I mean um none of us living under those sorts of
00:04:18.540 conditions could say for it for sure whether we'd be out on the streets knowing that threat
00:04:23.240 so that's what they do we've had major uprisings over that 47 years particularly the last couple
00:04:29.180 of decades and each time they have just stomped them out with brutal force and not just killing
00:04:39.160 protesters as they're protesting. It's what comes after. The arrest, the quick trials, and then
00:04:45.760 the death sentences. I mean, all of that has such a psychological impact on the population.
00:04:54.560 Frankly, I'm surprised there are as many uprisings as there are, given how brutal the
00:04:59.460 reaction is. Yeah. You're surprised because people are willing to put their life on the line.
00:05:04.380 You are putting your life on the line.
00:05:06.680 Everything you've worked for, lived for, your family,
00:05:09.840 everything you've built, you know if you go out on the street,
00:05:13.620 not only could you be killed then and there,
00:05:15.880 but your entire life could be destroyed.
00:05:19.760 If you're arrested, the consequences are catastrophic
00:05:23.180 for you and your family.
00:05:24.500 So it takes a lot.
00:05:26.180 It takes a lot to protest in a country like Iran.
00:05:29.400 It's not like here where you've got these blue-haired freaks
00:05:32.260 who think they're oppressed and living under fashions.
00:05:34.380 of going out with their professionally made signs every week
00:05:38.580 with some different cause, that takes zero courage.
00:05:43.860 What we see in Iran, that's real courage.
00:05:46.060 And what I absolutely loathe are these blue-head freaks
00:05:49.520 who supposedly care about oppression and women's rights
00:05:53.320 and all the things they supposedly care about,
00:05:57.020 all the humanitarian positions they say they take.
00:06:01.160 Never do they protest for people in Iran.
00:06:03.460 Never do they protest for the women in Iran.
00:06:06.100 Even when these uprisings have been female-led,
00:06:10.060 the feminists here are quiet, absolutely cowardly, gutless,
00:06:16.120 principless.
00:06:17.740 I just have no time for it.
00:06:19.540 I'm absolutely disgusted by the modern feminist movement.
00:06:24.420 They have abandoned women living under Sharia law.
00:06:28.120 Why is that, though?
00:06:28.960 Because you'll see them come out, and I'm curious to know
00:06:32.200 what you'll say on this.
00:06:32.940 You'll see them come out and say free Palestine, right?
00:06:36.880 You'll see them come out doing that.
00:06:38.120 But when it comes down to the women and you see the stats of, you know, 30,000 people in Iran,
00:06:44.600 they killed their own people, up to 100,000 people.
00:06:47.320 But they'll say, how do you know that?
00:06:48.860 How do you know that?
00:06:49.420 But if Hamas reports that 67,000 people were killed, Palestinians killed, no, that has to be true.
00:06:57.040 So why do you think they side with free Palestine, but they don't side with Iranian women right now that are being killed, raped and destroyed by their own government?
00:07:08.320 Why do you think that is?
00:07:09.500 How does that happen?
00:07:10.360 Because the feminist movement a long time ago ceased to be about the rights of women.
00:07:14.860 Even when you look at local issues, the feminist movement does not stand with women who are trying to protect female-only spaces, female-only sports.
00:07:23.960 They're on the other side.
00:07:25.240 It is a leftist movement that is anti-Western civilisation.
00:07:30.660 That's what it has morphed into, sadly.
00:07:33.300 And so they're comfortable being with Palestine,
00:07:37.040 but they can't stand with the women living under Sharia law in Iran
00:07:41.940 because they are on the same side as the mullahs, as crazy as that sounds.
00:07:48.780 There is this unholy alliance between the left and Islamists
00:07:53.500 and the feminist movement is a part of that leftist movement.
00:07:59.740 So it doesn't make sense because the Islamists
00:08:04.600 and the broad leftist movement share very little in common.
00:08:09.180 Their values are so different apart from the fact
00:08:13.860 that they've got shared enemies on the right.
00:08:16.460 Now, whether you look at that as the centre-right, the right wing,
00:08:19.720 Republicans, Western civilisations, those who want to protect Western values. And I think we
00:08:26.600 are in a civilisational war and that's where the sides have come down. And it happens continuously.
00:08:34.880 It's not isolated with Iran. The feminist movement will never side with women who are
00:08:42.540 genuinely oppressed, even in their own countries. I never hear members of the feminist movement
00:08:48.860 talking about the sharp rise in things like female genital mutilation
00:08:54.000 in the West because it's a problem in the West that sometimes send
00:08:58.580 their girls back to certain countries, typically in Africa,
00:09:02.540 to undergo that procedure and they come back.
00:09:05.180 And we now have even in Melbourne clinics that are devoted
00:09:08.740 to dealing with the problems of FGM because you have all sorts
00:09:11.860 of issues, childbirth and post-childbirth.
00:09:16.840 So, you know, we've got that craziness happening in the West, that absolute depravity in my mind.
00:09:24.220 And the feminists are reluctant to talk about it because they're more worried about Islamophobia.
00:09:28.860 They're worried if they talk about that, it will see people being critical of Islam and being Islamophobic.
00:09:36.240 I mean, really.
00:09:37.100 So then who is imposing that level of power and fear for people to line up that quickly and be afraid of criticizing Islamophobia?
00:09:46.700 Who's bringing that fear down?
00:09:48.020 Is it mainstream?
00:09:49.440 Is it political groups?
00:09:50.660 Is it propagandas?
00:09:51.740 What would it be?
00:09:52.780 Well, that sort of fear of being seen as Islamophobic has been so normalized.
00:10:01.000 And so we just had one in the last few days, a Islamist attack in New York.
00:10:08.280 And straight away, the talk was about, oh, well, we can't have Islamophobia.
00:10:12.660 and what about the other side who, I think Cathy Hochul came out
00:10:16.740 and condemned both sides.
00:10:18.160 She actually did the both sides argument.
00:10:20.880 And it's like, really, there's a literal Islamist attack
00:10:24.060 and your concern is about the rise in Islamophobia?
00:10:29.220 It's, yeah, and this is something that the great Hitch warned about,
00:10:36.600 that they will take away your right to criticise.
00:10:40.660 that will take away your right to be critical of even the extremes of Islamism.
00:10:47.740 And that's what we're talking about.
00:10:49.480 We're talking about the extremes that are dangerous,
00:10:52.120 that they are not compatible with Western values.
00:10:56.060 They are not.
00:10:56.680 You cannot coexist with Islamism and Western values, free speech, equal rights.
00:11:04.240 You can't have that if you're also going to be tolerant of Islamism.
00:11:08.900 Why are people flirting with that idea that it could possibly happen?
00:11:11.920 Why are they saying, poor these guys, you know, what's wrong with you?
00:11:15.060 You don't have a heart.
00:11:16.060 Take some asylum.
00:11:17.140 You know, take some of these political refugees.
00:11:19.460 I don't think they think it can happen to them.
00:11:21.380 I don't think they think it will touch their lives.
00:11:24.600 I genuinely don't.
00:11:25.700 That's why you see these gays for Palestine or LGBT.
00:11:30.400 Gays for Gaza.
00:11:31.740 I mean, they don't understand what the end result of that is.
00:11:36.500 they don't understand that those people loathe them with a passion um and what was that thing
00:11:43.920 molenbeek in belgium is a very good example of that you know it's it became so tolerant that
00:11:51.420 all the gays had to move out the women didn't feel safe walking in the streets because
00:11:57.260 that mindset came in that, yeah, you have to be covered up. If you're overtly gay,
00:12:07.380 you're probably going to be targeted in the street. So Molenbeek, I think, is known as the
00:12:13.440 terror capital of Europe. And it's a good lesson on what not to do and how you don't appease the
00:12:23.200 worst of the worst you you actually stand with your values and that's something I've always been
00:12:30.000 big on and something that people always get triggered about but all cultures are not equal
00:12:35.340 and I think we should be free to say that without fear of people having little meltdowns
00:12:39.940 all cultures aren't equal and anyone who pretends otherwise is either dumb or lying
00:12:45.700 There are no other options.
00:12:47.900 Yeah, Molenbeek is an experience.
00:12:51.960 Jihadist capital of Europe.
00:12:53.660 That's wild.
00:12:54.860 And how did this happen?
00:12:55.940 How did it become the Jihadist capital of Europe?
00:12:57.500 I think because it was a culture of appeasement.
00:12:59.580 They just went out of their way to appease a certain population
00:13:05.000 and appeasement just emboldens the extremists.
00:13:10.720 You don't appease.
00:13:11.580 you welcome people but you expect from them assimilation if you come into the west
00:13:17.860 that you assimilate western values if you don't want to assimilate with the western values then
00:13:22.880 there are a number of muslim countries you can move to there's a lot of countries you can move
00:13:28.820 to that share your values but um you can bring your elements of your culture that are compatible
00:13:36.840 You can bring all the wonderful foods and music and dance.
00:13:41.320 But when we're talking about values, if you don't believe that women are equal to men,
00:13:45.780 don't come to the West.
00:13:47.000 If you don't think people have the right to free speech and say things that may offend
00:13:51.280 you, don't come to the West.
00:13:53.320 I think these are fairly simple concepts.
00:13:59.500 Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything, like packing a spare stick.
00:14:04.280 I like to be prepared.
00:14:05.920 That's why I remember 988, Canada's Suicide Crisis Helpline.
00:14:09.800 It's good to know, just in case.
00:14:11.980 Anyone can call or text for free confidential support from a trained responder, anytime.
00:14:17.400 988 Suicide Crisis Helpline is funded by the government in Canada.
00:14:22.940 Yeah, I agree. The question becomes, is it too late?
00:14:26.860 The question is, will the leaders have a backbone to fight this out?
00:14:31.460 because propaganda is going to be able to confuse people so much
00:14:35.360 to the point of it's not fair, leave them alone, Islamophobia.
00:14:40.120 What's wrong with Mamdani?
00:14:41.400 The people voted for him for New York City.
00:14:43.700 That's what the people want.
00:14:45.100 Why are you getting – you said it's free election.
00:14:47.160 You said freedom of religion.
00:14:49.480 And then that same system produces a Mamdani.
00:14:52.180 So this is – some people are going to learn the hard way.
00:14:57.500 That's the problem.
00:14:59.420 Some people –
00:15:00.580 New York City, though.
00:15:01.460 New York City. Good luck to you.
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00:15:09.680 I think her QR code is going to be somewhere below here.
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