Valuetainment - April 25, 2025


"Cough In My Face!" - Andrew Callaghan's INSANE Coverage Of California's Anti-Vax CHAOS


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

206.57294

Word Count

1,959

Sentence Count

190

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

In this episode, we talk about the early days of the anti-vaccination movement and how the fear of the "Vaxxers" led to the spread of fear and spread of conspiracy theories. We talk about how the "anti-vaxxer" movement came about and how it changed the face of American politics.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What was the anti-vax when you went to it?
00:00:01.500 What was that like?
00:00:01.960 Oh, man.
00:00:02.520 So, I mean, the anti-vax rally, the one that I went to, obviously, it was taken down by YouTube.
00:00:06.360 But that was the first major anti-lockdown rally.
00:00:09.020 Why was it taken down?
00:00:10.760 You know.
00:00:11.300 Same thing?
00:00:12.080 Just like bots.
00:00:12.960 What was the craziest thing that somebody said?
00:00:14.920 I mean, this is a pre-vaccine era.
00:00:17.180 This is before the vaccine rollout happened.
00:00:18.680 What year was that?
00:00:19.660 This is in April 2020.
00:00:21.840 Oh, my God.
00:00:22.920 So peak.
00:00:24.400 Oh, no.
00:00:24.760 That Hollywood anti-vax rally is like a year later.
00:00:26.660 If you look up coronavirus lockdown protest, all gas, no brakes, you will find the video that was removed by YouTube.
00:00:34.860 Yeah, but that was like at the California state capitol in Sacramento.
00:00:37.880 Is that the one?
00:00:38.480 Right after it popped off.
00:00:39.480 Is this it?
00:00:40.120 Yeah.
00:00:40.420 So this is the one they took down?
00:00:41.580 This is the one that was taken down.
00:00:42.840 So it starts with this clip?
00:00:44.520 Yeah.
00:00:44.780 I want to hear what the first thing is to see what upset YouTube.
00:00:47.240 Go ahead.
00:00:47.660 I got every problem where the government said we can't go out.
00:00:50.960 It's a prohibition.
00:00:52.540 It's illegal.
00:00:53.640 It's against the Constitution.
00:00:55.120 I am immune compromised.
00:00:57.180 I put that at risk today.
00:00:58.980 I put that at risk today because I got to be here.
00:01:02.980 Are you scared to die?
00:01:05.540 No more scared than I am for anything else.
00:01:08.060 Freedom!
00:01:10.100 Freedom!
00:01:11.500 Freedom!
00:01:12.560 Freedom!
00:01:14.320 Freedom!
00:01:16.420 Freedom!
00:01:16.820 Yeah, so that was like, that was when it first popped off.
00:01:18.840 Open up!
00:01:19.740 You don't have a way!
00:01:21.100 You cannot, you cannot do this to me!
00:01:23.240 How many people own the news companies?
00:01:25.700 How many?
00:01:26.380 Well, you tell me.
00:01:27.300 Three or four.
00:01:28.320 How many does Disney own?
00:01:29.980 How many?
00:01:30.780 How many?
00:01:31.480 I don't know.
00:01:32.240 Well, maybe you ought to find out.
00:01:33.540 You're in the media, aren't you?
00:01:34.520 Yeah, but I'm independent.
00:01:35.720 You're independent what?
00:01:37.380 Independent media.
00:01:38.240 Me and this guy.
00:01:38.860 It's got all gas, no brakes.
00:01:40.100 That would be your badge.
00:01:41.540 Exactly.
00:01:42.820 Exactly.
00:01:43.260 That's the idea.
00:01:48.720 I don't have a badge.
00:01:51.680 This shit was crazy, man.
00:01:52.800 I'm giving some flashbacks.
00:01:54.000 This is April of 2020, the peak.
00:01:56.780 And this is in LA or this is?
00:01:58.420 This is in Sacramento at the California State Capitol.
00:02:01.460 And as you can see, we were, I was, like, I don't know if you were right, how you felt
00:02:05.680 when the thing first happened, but I was definitely nervous, you know, pre-vaccine,
00:02:09.840 you know, all that.
00:02:10.420 It was a pretty unsure time for people.
00:02:13.540 And I think that that caused many to gravitate toward extreme directions.
00:02:17.280 You had people who were, like, I'm never going to wear a mask.
00:02:18.980 One guy here had a shirt that said, cough in my face.
00:02:20.960 And he was saying, everybody cough in my face.
00:02:22.940 I don't care who you are.
00:02:24.020 Young, sick, old, cough in my face.
00:02:26.140 I will show you.
00:02:27.760 And then you had people who were literally, like, refusing to go outside of their house.
00:02:31.800 I remember in Seattle, with the community that I grew up with, right, like, if you had
00:02:36.300 a picnic at a public park, and you hadn't, you didn't have a mask on, and there was five
00:02:40.600 or more people, somebody would walk by you with their phone, take a picture of you, and
00:02:44.340 it would circulate all on social media, and it would say, this is a super spreader, and
00:02:47.460 you could lose your job because of that.
00:02:49.020 So there was, like, a mutual polarization.
00:02:51.280 And I would argue that we're still living in 2020.
00:02:53.900 You think?
00:02:54.480 Yeah.
00:02:55.180 People's brains have never recovered, man.
00:02:57.300 I think the 5%, you're probably right.
00:03:00.320 I know.
00:03:00.780 Think about it, man.
00:03:01.680 Like, okay.
00:03:02.280 So I would actually argue we're still living in the 1960s.
00:03:04.420 But if you think 60s, you know, the divisions that were planted there, you know what I mean?
00:03:08.140 As far as, like, Red Scare, and then people's movements being anti...
00:03:11.800 It's kind of, we're still living...
00:03:12.880 Ah, if you're breaking it down like that.
00:03:14.480 Yeah.
00:03:14.680 Yeah.
00:03:14.940 But I think the level of fear that you had in 2020 in April, you probably don't have
00:03:19.620 today with COVID.
00:03:20.440 Oh, not the level of fear, but I mean, the way people perceive politicians in reality is
00:03:24.480 very 2020-coded still to this day, even if people don't, you know...
00:03:27.400 But they divided America.
00:03:28.780 Oh, yeah.
00:03:29.060 The mainstream media divided America in a major way.
00:03:32.320 They convinced Americans that Trump was with Russia until they realized Hillary Clinton
00:03:37.580 funded that whole thing.
00:03:38.620 And I think Trump convinced Americans to look at people with masks as, like, these moronic
00:03:42.720 sheep that are worthy of, you know, harassment.
00:03:46.600 Well, some of them are.
00:03:47.960 Yeah.
00:03:48.280 I mean, I just...
00:03:48.880 You know, like, for example, when...
00:03:50.880 I remember one time, Rob, can you put up the picture I posted of the lady that was
00:03:54.800 in the car driving?
00:03:57.100 I don't know if you have this or not.
00:03:58.400 So, during COVID, I used to love watching people...
00:04:03.400 Oh, let me see if I can find this.
00:04:05.960 Where or no?
00:04:11.060 Let me see if I can find this.
00:04:12.200 This is so funny if I can find it.
00:04:14.960 But, yeah, when I would see guys wearing a freaking mask while they're driving in the
00:04:21.520 car by themselves.
00:04:22.520 Is this me, Rob?
00:04:23.260 Yep.
00:04:24.020 Do it again.
00:04:24.500 Go back to it.
00:04:25.440 Yeah, this is it.
00:04:26.880 That's it.
00:04:27.260 I can tell it's going to be a good one.
00:04:28.340 What are you doing?
00:04:30.880 What are you...
00:04:31.680 So, this person's not a...
00:04:33.420 You weren't a mask in the car by yourself.
00:04:35.480 You think that's normal?
00:04:36.960 The level of responsibility is at the highest level.
00:04:40.180 Yeah.
00:04:40.300 They don't even want to get themselves sick.
00:04:42.920 But, you know...
00:04:43.740 Probably went to Harvard, quite frankly.
00:04:45.980 Part of you...
00:04:46.400 Doesn't part of you kind of feel bad for those people?
00:04:48.060 No, I don't.
00:04:48.740 You know why?
00:04:49.200 Let me explain to you why.
00:04:50.340 I don't feel bad because if...
00:04:56.060 Yeah, that's the second picture, Rob.
00:04:57.460 If you can put the second picture...
00:04:58.620 I think it's the second one to the left.
00:04:59.700 Top left.
00:05:01.180 That's the one I think.
00:05:02.220 Click on it.
00:05:03.520 Driving alone...
00:05:04.940 Yeah, this is it.
00:05:06.980 Driving alone with a mask on is like going to bed alone with a condom on.
00:05:10.840 Mm-hmm.
00:05:12.580 Like, what are you afraid of?
00:05:14.400 Yeah.
00:05:14.640 You're not going to get an STD.
00:05:15.620 But you got to think, like, they're under algorithmic hypnosis like the other half of
00:05:19.340 the country, and they're being told every single day that there's a new variant.
00:05:22.180 They're glued to their phone.
00:05:23.360 Six hours of screen time is like the national average in 2020.
00:05:26.240 Yeah.
00:05:26.400 So they're constantly being fed this fear stuff.
00:05:28.920 Much like people on the far right were also being fed a similar type of fear content,
00:05:32.900 outrage machine.
00:05:33.540 Like what?
00:05:34.080 Like what?
00:05:34.540 Give me the fear on the right.
00:05:36.140 Probably...
00:05:36.740 Oh, my gosh.
00:05:37.340 The QAnon stuff?
00:05:38.200 No, no.
00:05:38.460 Not QAnon.
00:05:38.940 Give it to me from conservative media, like mainstream versus liberal media mainstream.
00:05:44.420 Not QAnon people.
00:05:45.840 Oh, I mean, that was the dominant thread in 2020.
00:05:48.200 No, no.
00:05:48.540 I'm just going to stick to mainstream media, what the conservative right was saying that
00:05:53.340 was selling fear porn versus what the liberal left was saying selling fear porn.
00:05:57.760 They both sold fear porn, but what was it?
00:05:59.460 I think that the democratic censorship on major social media platforms pushed people in the
00:06:04.180 conservative activist movement into small fringe platforms where they were being fed QAnon
00:06:09.340 stuff more so than they were mainstream press, and that was a direct blowback.
00:06:13.580 I mean, obviously, mainstream liberal media at the time was telling people not to go outside
00:06:18.120 to social distance and to be wary of anybody without a mask on, and also, the right-wing
00:06:23.300 machine was telling people that we're going to turn into a communist country and all your
00:06:27.240 freedoms are going to be taken away.
00:06:28.980 There's a cabal of baby-eating pedophiles that are connected to Epstein Island who are
00:06:32.540 controlling the entire world.
00:06:34.160 So there was just mass exaggerations on both sides.
00:06:36.020 That's right, but on the podcast, yes.
00:06:38.420 On the podcast world, when it's coming to, what are you saying, the baby-eating, what
00:06:43.400 was that?
00:06:43.700 What is the thing called that you're drinking?
00:06:44.920 Do you age backwards?
00:06:46.400 Adrenochrome.
00:06:47.220 Adrenochrome, right.
00:06:48.440 And so for me, yeah, for sure.
00:06:50.800 Some people say that.
00:06:51.500 That's kind of weird when they say that.
00:06:52.700 I get it.
00:06:53.200 But I'm saying mainstream, mainstream.
00:06:56.340 On mainstream, if they said, if you give up too much control, this could be a step away
00:07:01.840 from communism, it's partly not wrong if you give up too much control.
00:07:06.980 We were told that our kids can't go to school, and you're telling us to stay home for a year
00:07:10.920 and a half, and people left California and New York.
00:07:12.880 Yeah, that's crazy shit.
00:07:15.440 You and I don't know what that is.
00:07:16.840 When you went to school, you didn't have to stay home for a year and a half.
00:07:20.220 Imagine how hard it is on the wife and the mother and the mom and the father trying to
00:07:24.580 make the marriage work and pay bills and get the job, and you lose the job, and you lose
00:07:27.560 the restaurant, and you lose the business.
00:07:30.080 That's policies from the left that destroyed all these things.
00:07:32.900 So they destroyed America for a year and a half.
00:07:36.520 But what did the right do?
00:07:37.460 The right was telling you, don't believe it.
00:07:40.080 Question it.
00:07:40.720 Even libertarians said, don't believe it.
00:07:42.900 Even libertarians became incited with Trump.
00:07:45.780 Some of them did die, though, like Herman Cain.
00:07:47.720 Well, some of them did die.
00:07:50.720 Herman Cain, yeah, there are some that died.
00:07:52.740 There's more than just Herman Cain that died.
00:07:54.380 There was a lot more than that.
00:07:55.740 But that's not the point.
00:07:56.960 The point is, you have a choice.
00:07:59.360 If you drive a car on the freeway, somebody hits you, and you're going 100 miles an hour,
00:08:02.520 it's your choice.
00:08:02.960 You kill yourself, you're dead.
00:08:04.020 You're going to, you're dead.
00:08:05.300 There's choices that you've got to make.
00:08:06.720 But if it's all control?
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