Valuetainment - February 04, 2026


“Crazy Like a Fox” - CK Hutchison BOOTED As Panama Canal War HEATS UP


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A Panama court kicks Hong Kong's C.K. Hutchison out of Panama Canal ports. President Trump has vowed to take back control of the canal, and as a result, China has been accused of exerting too much influence over the waterway.

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00:00:13.780 Let me get to the next story here.
00:00:16.540 Next story I want to get into, to me, this is a top five story, maybe even higher.
00:00:20.480 I know we'll get to the government shutdown.
00:00:22.880 But let's get into this story.
00:00:24.700 Okay, the story is about Panama Canal.
00:00:28.400 Now, Rob, where's the Panama Canal? There it is.
00:00:30.600 Panama Court kicks Hong Kong's C.K. Hutchison out of Canal Ports.
00:00:38.080 What do you mean by that? Don't they own it?
00:00:40.800 They haven't sold it to BlackRock yet.
00:00:43.100 And this is a Financial Times story.
00:00:45.220 This is a very, very big story.
00:00:47.320 And we were at the Pentagon a couple days ago talking to some of the people that were working closely with this.
00:00:54.820 The stuff that we have, we can speak about some of the stuff.
00:00:57.460 So Panama's top court has annulled a contract for a Hong Kong-based company to operate a pair of ports on the country's famous canal,
00:01:05.640 casting doubt over a deal to sell the terminals and boosting President Trump's effort to reassert U.S. influence in the region.
00:01:13.660 In a unanimous ruling published late on Thursday, the Central American country's Supreme Court said the concession for a unit of C.K. Hutchinson holding to run the ports at either end of the Panama Canal was unconstitutional.
00:01:26.960 The case stems from a lawsuit dating back to 2021 in a government audit in 2025, alleging irregularities.
00:01:37.880 The ruling will delight the U.S. president who vowed last year to take back control of the canal connecting to the Pacific and the Caribbean.
00:01:45.860 And as criticized Chinese influence over the waterway, Kevin Marino, U.S. ambassador to Panama, hailed the ruling as strongly affirming the rule of the law.
00:01:54.880 It confirms that Panama's independent judiciary enforces legal compliance, transparency, and public service obligations.
00:02:01.240 There's a lot to it.
00:02:02.460 The two canals that they're talking about, Tom, one of them is called the Key Balboa and the other one is called the Cristobal.
00:02:09.600 And Jose Raul Molino, who happens to be the president of Panama, I want to say he got elected July of 2024.
00:02:16.700 He's only been in for a minute, a year and a half.
00:02:19.500 And Panama doesn't have a Republican and Democratic party.
00:02:22.480 It works in a very different way.
00:02:24.200 But this guy is very much pro-law enforcement, pro-borders.
00:02:28.540 He would be considered a conservative.
00:02:31.840 And when he's sitting there looking at the amount of control that China has over Panama, it's like, wait a minute.
00:02:38.280 What is going on here?
00:02:39.340 And he knows where president's at.
00:02:41.560 And he probably also knows that President Trump may do something like the Cuba and something like the Greenland or Venezuela and some of that stuff.
00:02:48.940 But they actually have an okay working relationship to get.
00:02:52.260 But I've got some thoughts on this, but, Tom, I'll come to you first.
00:02:55.260 So what's really interesting is we talked about it on this podcast.
00:03:00.280 And we dug up all of the business dealings on what business would own what.
00:03:06.200 Can you pull up the two ports, by the way, that C.K. Hutchinson owns, Rob, so the audience can see exactly why these two are so important.
00:03:12.100 By the way, C.K. Hutchinson owns about 43 to 45 that Larry Fink and BlackRock was trying to buy.
00:03:18.140 But out of the 43, 45 ports that they have, a couple are in Mexico as well.
00:03:22.220 The two that matters the most are these two.
00:03:24.680 If you want to type in Key Balboa and Crystal Ball and just go to Maps, Rob.
00:03:29.300 Key Balboa and Crystal Ball and then go to Maps.
00:03:32.060 Go ahead, Tom.
00:03:32.900 Yep.
00:03:33.360 And Hutchinson Wampoa is a huge company with all sorts of things.
00:03:37.180 There was a guy that was over there, Lee Kaxing, which people used to refer to him as Lee Kaxin,
00:03:42.860 because it seems like every government he talked to, he would get the deal done.
00:03:46.740 So anyhow, as you see the map here, you see how important these two ports are as you go through the Panama Canal,
00:03:52.800 which takes you through Panama.
00:03:55.200 And by the way, it goes up mountains.
00:03:57.720 They take the boats in.
00:03:59.440 They fill it with water to make the boat go higher.
00:04:01.480 Then they put it.
00:04:02.140 It's called the locks to the next step to the next step.
00:04:04.460 It's like making a boat climb stairs through all the Panama Canal.
00:04:08.040 And it's hugely important because that's how Pacific Freight gets to the Gulf of America
00:04:12.840 and then gets over here to New Orleans and Houston and Miami and our major ports.
00:04:17.900 So this was a business deal that everyone thought, wow, who's going to own this?
00:04:23.800 Is BlackRock going to make a deal with Hutchinson?
00:04:26.960 There was a deal on the table.
00:04:28.520 And then all of a sudden, Hutchinson says, well, maybe I don't want to do that.
00:04:32.300 Maybe I'll do it differently.
00:04:33.420 And everybody talked about it.
00:04:35.240 CIA leak came out that said that the Chinese were putting pressure on Hutchinson not to do it
00:04:42.640 because the Chinese had been investing in the canal and wanted to control it
00:04:47.080 so they could control the United States and the West and to put pressure on trade.
00:04:51.800 That's what the game was.
00:04:53.500 Well, guess what happens here?
00:04:55.960 What happens is all of a sudden the Panama goes, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:05:00.880 I got elected in 2024.
00:05:02.440 Why don't we go take a look at this under Panamanian law?
00:05:05.460 Because this isn't just a business deal of who owns what.
00:05:08.800 This is our land.
00:05:10.100 This is our sovereign country.
00:05:11.840 And if you go look over history on how the actual country of Panama was created,
00:05:17.560 you'll see that there was some definite oddities when that happened.
00:05:21.300 But now Panama, by the way, they go to their Supreme Court.
00:05:24.340 And the word that Pat read, that you read, was unanimous ruling.
00:05:30.040 So it was unanimous ruling.
00:05:31.720 Interesting how big their Supreme Court is.
00:05:33.560 How big is Panama's Supreme Court?
00:05:35.120 But it was a unanimous ruling with their president, Marino, supporting this, saying,
00:05:41.960 wait a minute, we're going to go back and look at our own laws to nine magistrates and nine alternates.
00:05:48.660 So that's nine people voting.
00:05:51.420 So this wasn't a split vote.
00:05:53.160 So something went down in Panama.
00:05:54.760 And Panama said, nope, we're not going to let this be a business deal with Hutchinson that's controlled by the Chinese.
00:06:01.960 We're now going to step in here and say, you can't do that.
00:06:05.180 This is our sovereign country.
00:06:06.740 You may have a business deal here, but this canal is our country.
00:06:10.900 It's part of our security and defense.
00:06:12.820 That's what we're doing.
00:06:13.480 And by the way, here it is.
00:06:15.000 Balboa is the entrance on the Pacific Ocean.
00:06:18.020 See the map there?
00:06:19.320 And I'm glad Pat asked for this.
00:06:21.160 And then Cristobal is the one that's on the Atlantic Ocean.
00:06:24.800 Yeah, just send this to Rob.
00:06:25.720 So you see the two, why they matter the most.
00:06:29.400 This is why.
00:06:30.220 By the way, there are some people that will say the following, Tom.
00:06:34.220 You know what they'll say?
00:06:35.360 Why the hell did Jimmy Carter give this up?
00:06:37.620 This is ours anyways.
00:06:39.400 You know, when you think about it, it's a, well, I don't want a war to happen because of what was going on.
00:06:43.480 And 1964, and, you know, I wanted to make sure we had good relations.
00:06:47.260 I didn't want it to be any worse than it was.
00:06:49.820 Panama Canal, if President Trump was president during that time, what would have President Trump done with Panama Canal?
00:06:57.300 Would he have handed it to them?
00:06:59.080 What do you think he would have done at that time?
00:07:01.380 He would have supported the economic needs of Panama but kept control of the canal that we built.
00:07:08.240 He would have done that, in your opinion.
00:07:10.120 He would have helped.
00:07:10.740 I think he would have helped Panama.
00:07:11.720 What can he do now, Tom?
00:07:12.220 What can he do now?
00:07:13.480 Well, I think what he can do now is I think we are very close.
00:07:18.140 My understanding and what we've heard from people is that we are very close to the people in Panama.
00:07:22.960 We are working diplomatically with them so that they would keep control of their country and not allow the Chinese to do this.
00:07:30.980 This is a big deal.
00:07:32.420 Well, most people don't realize, and I think we can say the number right, this is a top five international deal on the president's desk.
00:07:40.720 We can say that.
00:07:41.700 We can say that much.
00:07:42.820 I think we can say that much.
00:07:44.000 Yep.
00:07:44.180 I think so.
00:07:45.140 And by the way, this is from the people on his team saying that.
00:07:48.780 Correct.
00:07:49.100 So that tells you how important it is.
00:07:51.600 And when you see the map there and you see how all this freight comes from all over the place, the Panama Canal was the shortcut for east to west.
00:08:00.160 It's a huge economic importance for all the stuff that comes from the Pacific Ocean coming to, again, New Orleans, Houston, and Miami, which are actually Port Everglades, bigger, the ports that are bringing up product here in the United States.
00:08:15.780 Yeah, I mean, multiple people tried to build this.
00:08:19.560 They saw this as a good opportunity to build the canal.
00:08:23.140 The French failed.
00:08:25.020 U.S. came in.
00:08:26.500 At the time, I don't know how, by the way, the way to build it, if you've ever been to the Panama Canal, it's a spectacle.
00:08:32.460 When you go there, they show you how many, you know how they build this place?
00:08:36.360 With bombs.
00:08:38.060 The canal is built with bombs.
00:08:39.760 So they had to blow things up and people would, how many, but Rob, can you Google how many people died building the Panama Canal?
00:08:47.280 By the way, before you say this, Vinny, what do you think the number is?
00:08:49.880 How many people, do it privately, Rob, so they don't see it.
00:08:52.420 How many people died building the Panama Canal?
00:08:55.120 Died.
00:08:55.820 5,000.
00:08:56.580 Okay, now because I'm saying this, you're thinking about it that way, right?
00:08:59.080 What's the number, Rob?
00:09:00.040 What does it say?
00:09:00.980 How many people died building the Panama Canal?
00:09:02.940 20,000.
00:09:04.100 25,000 people died.
00:09:06.560 Jesus.
00:09:07.340 Just to build.
00:09:08.080 I mean, the French really screwed up.
00:09:09.600 Look at that.
00:09:10.440 They killed 20,000.
00:09:11.620 Our construction workers, 5,600 people died building this place.
00:09:16.960 Wow.
00:09:17.180 We funded, we gave $375 million of 1904, 1908 money, which in today is like $13 billion, $10 or $13 billion.
00:09:27.160 But to me, the fact that the alignment of the new president, July of 2024, got elected, Trump comes in six months later, there is that affinity.
00:09:37.700 They both realized we have a similar enemy, and that enemy is China.
00:09:41.000 We've got to figure this thing out.
00:09:42.240 So I kind of like what's happening here.
00:09:43.680 Adam.
00:09:44.120 Yeah.
00:09:44.580 The question I ask is, is this all part of Trump's master plan?
00:09:49.240 I mean, there's so many people I speak to that are like, Trump's crazy, man.
00:09:52.700 He's insane.
00:09:53.740 He's going nuts.
00:09:54.640 It's like, yeah, is he crazy?
00:09:56.260 Crazy like a fox.
00:09:57.140 Because the Panama Canal, which I know that was a top five issue for you, comes down to basically the Don Rowe Doctrine.
00:10:04.480 And if you look at this map right here, why is he talking about Greenland so much?
00:10:08.340 Why did he take the Gulf of America, well, Gulf of Mexico, make it the Gulf of America?
00:10:13.740 Why is he so concerned about Venezuela?
00:10:16.120 Why the Panama Canal?
00:10:17.360 Because they're all in the Western Hemisphere.
00:10:21.220 This is what he's saying.
00:10:22.140 He's basically saying China's over there, over there, we're going to deal with what they're dealing with on a long-term capacity,
00:10:28.060 but control the controllable in our hemisphere.
00:10:31.200 Now, when it comes to China, you know that they're our main competitor.
00:10:34.420 You might say enemy, whatever you want to call them.
00:10:36.780 The enemy.
00:10:37.480 So they've been building what's called the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:10:41.000 Trump's been working on what's called the IMEC corridor, I believe.
00:10:44.640 You're familiar with this?
00:10:45.920 The IMEC, the India, that's why we're aligning more with India now.
00:10:49.940 The Middle East, that's why Trump's making peace in the Middle East.
00:10:53.280 We're going to have peace.
00:10:54.360 And then Europe, the IMEC corridor.
00:10:56.580 So China's building the Belt and Road Initiative, basically built on debt.
00:11:00.780 I think they've basically saddled half of Africa with debt.
00:11:04.900 Correct.
00:11:05.020 And you know that?
00:11:05.820 You know, economic confessions of an economic hitman that we spoke to many, many years ago.
00:11:11.580 So they're the big losers because they're just going to be saddled with debt.
00:11:14.240 And what Trump is building with this IMEC corridor on that side of the world, on the eastern hemisphere,
00:11:20.500 is this basically super mega trade highway between India and the Middle East.
00:11:25.320 That's why he wants to have the Abraham Accords and then ship everything off to Europe.
00:11:29.460 But this is built on trust and alliances, where China's built on debt and basically taking down your enemy.
00:11:36.640 Yeah.
00:11:36.720 I think the bottom...
00:11:37.360 Go ahead, Tom.
00:11:38.260 I'm sorry, Pat.
00:11:38.780 No, no, go for it.
00:11:39.360 I think the bottom line here is national security has got two components, economic security and defensive security.
00:11:45.200 Panama Canal is economic security.
00:11:47.320 Greenland is defensive security.
00:11:49.380 And it's pretty straightforward.
00:11:50.860 So, Pat, what do you do if you're Trump?
00:11:53.380 As the president right now, with everything that he's doing, with Greenland, with Venezuela, with everything,
00:11:58.820 if you're the president, what's your position?
00:12:01.720 You want to know what the biggest fear is?
00:12:03.140 So, you know, when you build a company, you start a company, and you feel comfortable with
00:12:13.600 the way you negotiate and you drive things, then your mindset becomes, how long does it
00:12:20.800 take for people to negotiate the way I negotiate?
00:12:23.980 In PHP, morale can negotiate like me.
00:12:27.920 Tikran can negotiate like me.
00:12:29.680 Tom knows how to negotiate, but that's about it, to negotiate that way.
00:12:35.900 Okay?
00:12:36.060 And that took years to get to that level of negotiation.
00:12:41.200 Okay.
00:12:41.840 So, when you leave, you're hoping your existing people will negotiate in your favor, favorably.
00:12:50.580 Right?
00:12:51.000 Okay.
00:12:51.460 Then you have people that you hope maintain a certain standard.
00:12:54.920 You hope they see your example, that you're still working hard, you're going in, you're not just
00:12:59.040 acting like this rich, look how famous I am and how much money I got in every day.
00:13:03.580 I'm just posting car pictures and stuff that I bought, and the whole identity becomes about
00:13:07.760 lifestyle, right?
00:13:08.880 Instead of standards and leadership to keep growing, right?
00:13:12.660 The challenge Trump has is the following.
00:13:15.560 He only has three more years left.
00:13:17.220 Whatever he builds, what do you think the other guy's going to do?
00:13:22.600 Whatever he builds, you have to assume whoever comes in after him, if it's somebody on the
00:13:26.860 left, they're going to try to tear up every single thing possible.
00:13:32.600 Lincoln was a two-term president, not a full two-term president, but Lincoln was a term and
00:13:38.480 a half, Tom, am I saying it correctly?
00:13:40.600 Five years?
00:13:41.700 How long was Lincoln in the White House, Rob?
00:13:44.500 Can you look it up?
00:13:45.280 Depends on that side.
00:13:46.240 I want to say five years, five and a half years.
00:13:48.500 Until he was assassinated?
00:13:49.820 Until he was assassinated, but I want to see, what is the exact timeline?
00:13:54.260 Four and a half years?
00:13:55.200 A little over four years.
00:13:56.160 Four years and one month.
00:13:57.580 So, who came after him?
00:14:00.600 Who came after Lincoln?
00:14:01.560 Frederick Johnson?
00:14:02.460 No, I think it's Grant, two years.
00:14:04.260 I thought it was his VP, who was completely ineffective.
00:14:06.920 No, but who became-
00:14:09.780 Oh, the next elected.
00:14:10.520 The next elected president.
00:14:12.160 Who was it after him?
00:14:13.680 Who was the president after him?
00:14:15.280 Not Ulysses S. Grant?
00:14:16.540 Ulysses S. Grant, I think the two terms afterwards.
00:14:19.760 No?
00:14:20.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:14:21.220 I could be wrong.
00:14:21.780 Andrew Johnson.
00:14:22.080 I'm sorry, Andrew Johnson.
00:14:23.060 Okay.
00:14:23.380 Yes.
00:14:23.720 So, then who was Ulysses S. Grant?
00:14:26.040 Grant was a-
00:14:27.840 Andrew Johnson comes after him.
00:14:29.220 Who comes after Johnson?
00:14:29.920 Was Andrew Johnson the vice president?
00:14:31.620 Okay, right there.
00:14:32.340 He was succeeded by Ulysses S. Grant in 69.
00:14:34.280 Yeah, because the VP takes over and then comes Ulysses S. Grant.
00:14:37.360 In this situation, if you think assassination, right, closeness, that's like saying JD becomes
00:14:44.800 president and then, to me, if he can get two other, a person that stays in for two more
00:14:51.500 terms, then they'll have 11 years to make this a real thing.
00:14:55.300 If he can duplicate the same culture of driving.
00:14:58.680 And by the way, if you have to compare who thinks more like Trump, is it Rubio or is
00:15:05.140 it Vance?
00:15:06.280 Who thinks more like Trump?
00:15:07.760 I want to come to you last.
00:15:09.080 Who thinks more like Trump?
00:15:11.140 Vance or Rubio?
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00:16:06.400 I think Rubio has been there longer and has his own set of codified beliefs.
00:16:12.200 And J.D. Vance was a Trump hater just five, ten years ago.
00:16:17.020 So I think he's kind of getting involved in the Trump orbit.
00:16:20.600 Who thinks so?
00:16:21.220 Rubio.
00:16:21.540 I think Rubio has a little bit more credibility there.
00:16:26.060 Guys, I'm going to keep saying this.
00:16:27.220 And I think, Tom, you're probably going to say Rubio.
00:16:29.140 Because you and I are on the same page here with Rubio.
00:16:31.460 If a Rubio is able to get in and continue some of these standards, this hard negotiation
00:16:38.860 that's not about, no, we should not mind our own business and just do this and isolationist,
00:16:45.060 which I get it's some people's philosophy, but it's not Trump's.
00:16:47.800 Trump's playing offense.
00:16:48.620 Vinny, I think if they play offense, it could continue.
00:16:52.540 But he doesn't have that much time.
00:16:53.980 I don't think he has that much time on continuing this standard, this expectation, and this way
00:16:59.320 of negotiation.
00:17:00.140 Look at the way Carter negotiated.
00:17:02.040 Who the hell negotiates like that?
00:17:03.980 Who says let's do that?
00:17:05.260 No, no.
00:17:05.900 Let's impose.
00:17:07.120 Let's take control.
00:17:08.300 Because Panama Canal is not something that you're like, well, we don't think anything's.
00:17:12.040 Panama Canal is a negotiation you're doing for how many years?
00:17:15.260 The importance of controlling Panama Canal is for how many years?
00:17:18.620 The national security of America.
00:17:20.800 Yeah.
00:17:21.180 For how many years do you need to control Panama Canal?
00:17:23.580 Five years?
00:17:24.360 Hundreds.
00:17:24.680 Forever.
00:17:25.180 Hundreds of years.
00:17:26.940 Or ever.
00:17:27.340 Hundreds of years is Panama Canal.
00:17:29.240 Yeah.
00:17:29.500 There's some things that can be temporary.
00:17:31.360 There's some things that's permanent.
00:17:32.780 Panama Canal is permanent.
00:17:33.680 Can I ask you a follow-up question to that?
00:17:35.720 You know, from a CEO perspective, whether it's a commander-in-chief perspective, you know,
00:17:40.740 there's foreign policy and domestic policy.
00:17:42.620 Look at what he's doing all around the world.
00:17:44.620 Combating China, whether it's the tariffs, you know, peace in the Middle East, doing what
00:17:49.220 he's doing with Greenland.
00:17:50.020 Then you have this domestic policy where he has to stop everything he's doing, this whole
00:17:55.380 agenda, to deal with an ice shooting or with transgenderism.
00:17:59.780 And all this nonsense that, in my opinion, China is like laughing at us, being like, Iran
00:18:06.320 is killing 30,000 of their citizens on a weekend, shut off the internet, laughing at us because
00:18:12.700 we're crying over two agitators that were killed, rest in peace.
00:18:16.540 How does Trump basically try to complete this restructuring of the global agenda while still
00:18:24.540 basically trying to keep and quell the chaos that's happening domestically?
00:18:29.160 Yeah, so when you're building a business and you're building a company, I'll never forget
00:18:35.660 in my second year, I knew what's going to create the most noise in the company is compliance.
00:18:41.080 I knew it.
00:18:42.080 Because you're hiring 1099 independent agents that are coming over to you, they don't have
00:18:46.700 a job, they're just 1099, they got to find their clients, they got to prospect, they got
00:18:50.300 to do everything themselves.
00:18:51.600 So I invested into compliance.
00:18:53.400 And while we're going and we're building relationships with different major insurance companies,
00:18:58.480 you will have relationships that can go bad based on a couple of your own agents who
00:19:04.440 screwed up.
00:19:04.980 In this case, let's just say Bovino, right?
00:19:08.440 Who was going around and he wasn't appointed by Trump, if I'm not mistaken.
00:19:12.540 Was Bovino appointed by Trump or-
00:19:14.240 He was the ICE guy?
00:19:14.940 The second presidency, Bovino was chosen to be a high profile.
00:19:17.400 That Tom Holman took over?
00:19:18.620 Yeah, but Bovino is not, somebody suggested Bovino that Trump brought him in because he's
00:19:25.180 like, so he's trusting, right?
00:19:27.300 So he is trusting other people to say, this is the person for us to go with, right?
00:19:32.300 And then all of a sudden, these types of handlings happen, that noise rolls up to the president.
00:19:37.040 The noise rolls up to the president.
00:19:38.760 He has to deal with it.
00:19:40.360 Some of this stuff, the left is celebrating on the chaos that happened, but it's still a
00:19:47.620 lot of noise for Trump from his agenda.
00:19:49.320 You think he wants the ICE noise?
00:19:50.720 He doesn't want any of this ICE noise.
00:19:52.200 He doesn't want the stuff that's happening, if you're watching this, if you're cold like
00:19:56.380 we are, and you want to wear a sweater, you just don't know what you want that sweater
00:20:01.200 to represent, we have options for you, okay?
00:20:04.080 We have an entire section because of the amount of messages we got saying we need hoodies
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00:20:39.540 Rob, do me a favor, put the link below for everybody to go order, no matter what it is,
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