"Democrat's Hostage Negotiation" - America On Edge As Shutdown CRIPPLES Flights, Paychecks & SNAP
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Rob and Sarah discuss the latest on the government shutdown and what it means for the 800,000 federal employees who are now without a paycheck. They also talk about the impact of the shutdown on the economy and the impact on the middle class.
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There's a bunch of different things going on right now in the government shutdown.
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We hear the video that comes out, the story saying up to 20% of flights can be canceled
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in coming weeks if the government shutdown drags on as airports endure first day of crippling
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reductions. You hear pilots talking about a bunch of different things. You hear pilots saying,
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hey, you know, we have folks that are working right now that are not getting paid, but they're
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showing up today, et cetera, et cetera. And there was a rare Saturday Senate session that ends with
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a few signs of shutdown progress. So as of right now, Rob, the latest thing we know is what?
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The fact that eight senators have agreed. Is that the clip right there, Rob? Okay, there we go.
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Can you go back to it? Yep. So the government shutdown on October 1st. On November 9th,
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the United States advanced a funding measure by 60-40 vote. This is the first major bipartisan
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movement towards reopening the government. The measure would extend federal funding through
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January 30th, 2026 for some agencies. Attach three full-year appropriation bill, agriculture,
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veterans affairs, and legislative branch as part of the broader package. Guarantee a future vote in
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December on Affordable Care Act, health insurance tax credit issues, which has been a key sticking
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point. And it's important to know this, that with the Obamacare, Trump wants to give you the credit.
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He wants you to make a decision what you want to do with it because all the promises
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Obama made that you're not, you're going to be able to keep your doctor. It's not going to be
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costing you anything. Taxes will go up. We all know Obama lied on every one of those issues.
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And that's proven by the left and the right. So many federal functions that have been severely
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disrupted, the 900,000 federal employees that have been working without pay, SNAP, which is impacting
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a lot of people's lives, especially immigrants that are here taking advantage of it.
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You know, who some of them, that's that they're relying on you, the hardworking people to take
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care of them. But Tom, where are we at with this?
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Well, the Senate voted. You had to break the filibuster. You need to have 60 votes. And what
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the Senate did, they haven't ended the government shutdown, but they have put together something
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and they're sending it back to the House and the House is all upset. However, this should
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be good news. But check this out. Look at the eight people that voted with the Republicans.
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Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, Jackie Rosen of Nevada. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
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Both Nevada senators voted. Very interesting. We know Nevada was razor thin, you know, and
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Trump got traction. Traction there was used to be blue, blue, blue. But the election there
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also look at this, New Hampshire, Gene Shaheen and Maggie Hassan, both senators from New Hampshire
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went with them. And this guy, I'm really proud of this guy, Dick Durbin of Illinois.
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Went with the Republicans to break this. And then Tim Kaine of Virginia. Tim Kaine was
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Hillary's VP candidate. And then, of course, the guy we expected for the last three months
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So those were the eight that went and they went with it. What's interesting, if you look
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at it, I believe the Republicans got about 80 percent of what they wanted in the Senate
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bill, whereas the Democrats got about 20 percent. For instance, Dick Durbin came across when
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he said that Trump, that what they would put in there, and John Thune gets credit for this,
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lonely, not very charismatic, just very effective, and just a good person, John Thune, apparently...
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Yep. Got everybody together. But, you know, John Thune has never been like the Schumer,
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the Pelosi, the camera guy. He's always just kind of just there working. And he got it done.
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But here's what he gave back to Durbin. He said, I'll tell you what, this is what we'll put in.
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All the federal workers that were fired during the shutdown, not the ones that were fired during
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those at the beginning when he started thinning things out, but all the ones that were fired
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during the shutdown will get their jobs back. And there will be a provision to give them some
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back pay, which shouldn't be huge in American people because that back pay thing has really
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just kind of started. You know, it's not... Well, some had started before, but it's not cataclysmic.
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It is to those people, but in terms of dollars to the U.S. taxpayer, you know, it's manageable.
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So he gave that back, and Durbin said, OK, Thune, I'm in. And they went in. And so it was very
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sensible, but what's really important... I'll go back, and these are my estimates, Pat. I think
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the Republicans got about 80% of what they wanted. Specifically, they didn't want the Obamacare
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subsidies just to roll over as this trillion-dollar wave in the American people. They got that.
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They got what Wade wanted. So I think the Republicans got 80%. I think the Dems got 20%.
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And people like Dick Durbin got the unionized federal workers get their jobs back. And so
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Got it. So here's a tweet. No more money, hundreds of billions of dollars to the Democratic-supported
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insurance companies for really bad Obamacare. The money must now go directly to the people
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taking the fat cat insurance companies out of the corrupt system of health care. The people
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can buy their own much better policy, much less money, saving for themselves an absolute fortune,
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President Donald J. Trump. And while this is going on, and while this is going on, Scott Jennings,
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Rob, can you pull up the Scott Jennings clip where he's talking to Abby? And on that clip,
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he... Do you know which one I'm talking about? I put it... I may have put it in the PVD podcast if
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you want to look for it. And he's saying, look, you know, I mean, the reality of it is,
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you guys got what you wanted, right? You know, you were able to... You were able to use this as
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for the election. Yeah, I think... Yeah, there you go. You were able to use this for the election,
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the special elections that was taking place. And watch how she answers this. Look at this. Go ahead, Rob.
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Republicans going to use leverage in their fight with Democrats when the Democrats are actually
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the ones with the upper hand in the eyes of voters. Well, I'm sure Democrats will be more
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than happy to open the government now. The election's over. I mean, I mean, part of the reason they
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shut it down was to get through tonight. I mean, I... And so I would suspect they'll be going to open it
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up by the end of the week. Adam Schiff, he was like, hold the line. There's lots of rumors of people
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wanting to open it. Look, I don't see what is the incentive for Democrats to back down when voters are
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basically saying Trump's not doing enough. It's the Republicans' fault. And then they basically
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handed the keys in the last election... In this past election to the Democrats. It's... Where's the
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leverage? Again, these are blue states electing Democrats. Not a shock. Democrats clearly wanted
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this shutdown to get through Election Day. I do think they are facing pressure from their internal
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coalitions. The unions, the air traffic controllers, the government employee unions are desperate to get
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the government back open. They're feeling a little bit of internal heat. But again, the election's now
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over. I'm sure tomorrow morning, phones will start ringing, and it'll be open soon enough.
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This was a political shutdown, and that's what they did, and now we're through the election.
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So now, by the way, while this is going on, you know, Rob, Adam, I'm going to come to you.
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I do want to show something, because what he said right there is, these were all blue states.
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These were... Not this one, Rob. The other one, the one with the link. Not the one that goes to X,
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That is showing what happens when they lose the special election.
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Yeah. And then if you don't mind, Rob, go fast forward to...
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Go, keep going, keep going, keep going. Go from right there. Go back a little bit.
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Go back a little bit. When that starts, play from right there.
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So now, is there any patterns to show what this means to midterms that's going to come up
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in a year? And watch what Anton says here. And by the way, whether you like Anton or not,
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he is fair, okay, when he's going through some of these numbers. So you can't just like him when
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the polls are good for you, and then hate him when they're not. Watch this one here. Go ahead.
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...do well. I mean, just take a look at the House special elections. Take a look here,
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the 2025 House special elections. Look at those in which Democrats outran Kamala Harris.
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There have been five House special elections so far this year in every single one of them
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across the board. Virginia, Texas 18, that was on Tuesday night. Florida 6, Florida 1,
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Arizona 7. From blue districts like Arizona 7 to red districts like Florida 1 and 6,
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what we are seeing are clear shifts towards the Democratic candidates in all five of them.
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And we're talking about shifts on average, Kate Baldwin, of about or north of 15 percentage
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points from the 2024 presidential baseline, which is even larger than the shifts that we saw
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in both Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday night. And a million things can happen in the year
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until the midterms. With that caveat, what are you seeing? A year is a very long period of time,
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but you know we've spoken about this. I like going through history. What do these...
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Watch this. Watch what magnesium does to your power. Watch what magnesium does right now.
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This a joke, Robert? Magnesium guy. Magnesium bros? Stop it.
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Your elections usually forecast for the year ahead for the midterm elections. Well, I mean,
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we take a look at the House special elections, right? If a party outperforms in House special
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elections five out of five times, what do we see? They've gone on to win the U.S. House the
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following midterm every single time since the 2005-2006 cycle. So when you see,
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of course, that the Democrats are outperforming in all of them, historically speaking, that means
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they go on to win the U.S. House of Representatives in the following midterm. And then, yes,
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New York, New Jersey, Virginia. Yes, there's a blue city in New York City. Yes, the blue states
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in Virginia and New Jersey. But historically speaking, when you sweep all three, you go back
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since the FDR... Tom, do you agree with him? Well, yeah. History is absolutely... He is accurately
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recounting history. And what happens is the special elections here usually are not about the
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candidates. If you go deeper into it, and I know exactly what he's talking about, and he
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is faithfully showing it without spin, so hats off to Mr. Enten. The issue is there's usually
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an overriding issue that goes beyond the candidates because all those candidates are different, yet
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five out of five races move. Make sense? Yeah. So, wow, is this a candidate? So it also shows
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that the down-ballot effect by Kamala Harris was actually negative, not positive. She had
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a negative impact on the down-ballot races. In other words, she didn't help it at all. It's
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like, stay out of my state. I'm running for myself. I don't need your help. I don't want
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you here. Well, guess what? The issue right now, the number one issue, when you talk to all
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the core voters, and Enten has talked about it, I've seen polls on it, is affordability.
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That's the word. It's James Carville all over again. The core Americans is on affordability.
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And the mainstream media really did a—it's terrible, it's capricious, but they did a pretty
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good job of pushing economic down, economic down, economic down out there on the American people
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and the American voter. And, and, and, and, you've got these angry women under 40. Adam's talked about
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it. I've talked about it. The polls have talked about it. So those are the three things. Affordability
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is a top issue. The movement of, of basically angry women under 40. And then you've got the
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mainstream media that wouldn't get off economic topics. Got it. Adam thoughts. The ghost of
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James Carville comes back. Got it. Adam. It's the economy, stupid. So this whole government
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shutdown thing, to me, as you said, James Carville and the economy, stupid. To me, I don't even
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call it a government shutdown. I cover, I call it a government showdown. Because I feel like
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we've seen this, it's a Groundhog Day with, with our tax dollars. Every year, it's just every time
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they do these government showdowns. It's the same thing. It's theater, it's politics. They waited
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till Tuesday elections were done. And it, all it ends up being is a short-term fix. I'm so sick of
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these short-term fixes. Every year, it's the same movies, showdown time, showdown time, continuing
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resolution time. What are we going to do? Filibuster time. And it's actually just getting annoying at this
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point. Can we get a long-term solution? So we stopped doing this every single year. We know
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this movie. We've seen it every single time. We know what the government's not going to shut down
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forever. And how many lives are affected when it shut down for 40 days? It only started moving the
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needle after the election was over, one. And all of a sudden, everyday people are getting affected
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because their flights are getting canceled. So unless it affects people, the politicians have no problem
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basically playing chicken with your tax dollars. Once you start saying, dude, I just got my flight
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canceled. Hey, buddy, I'm going to miss a meeting. Can we get this thing figured out? That's when
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they'll start moving. Until then, they don't really give a crap because they're getting paid.
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Of course they are. Politicians are getting paid. But the everyday workers are getting paid.
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The old bill compared to the new bill is nothing. And the fact that I want Democrat voters to
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understand that your missed paychecks, your flights, your snap, and all that, it's because
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the left was using it as leverage so they look good during their runs with Virginia and all that
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nonsense. And even The Hill did a piece that said, Democrat senators fear getting hammered after no
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kings for ending government shutdown. They have nothing. And you know, just like remember with the
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border bill, Tom, they were like, no, we're not going to give you what you want unless you give
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you know, billions of dollars to Ukraine, billions of dollars here, billions of dollars to like
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Israel and all these places. And it's like, bro, like what? I don't like this hostage stuff. I agree
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with you 100%. It's actually a hostage negotiation. But Tom, right now, the Republicans have the House
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and the Senate. I don't feel like they're doing enough to not only go after everybody that has been
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screwing Trump and screwing us for the past, you know, eight years. They're not doing enough to put
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stuff in place, Tom, that's going to last. You know what I mean? He makes a great point.
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Every year, this is going to change. Every year, they're going to keep doing the same thing.
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Well, this is our government. But I think you have to remember the fog of what happened in
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the election is fogging over all the winds. Look at the winds that have been happening on
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international trade deals. Look at the winds that have been happening on rare earth minerals.
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Look at the winds that have been happening on energy drill, baby drill, and the cost of oil
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and heating oil. When the Northeast Democrat voters have lower cost heating oil this winter,
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I hope they remember who made that happen. I hope they remember that that was President
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Trump keeping his promise to drill, baby drill, which translates to your fuel tank, to your
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airline ticket cost, and to your heating oil. I think all these winds are getting covered
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by the fog, and I think the administration needs to do a PR tour reminding us all of all
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the good things that happened, while at the same time, they offer some concrete, you know,
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dates behind all this $1.5 trillion coming in to build more jobs in America. When are
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those jobs coming? And to get after affordability. And I think if the president should go on the
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offense about this, he's got a lot of good stuff to talk about.
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I do think the affordability is something that needs to be focused on.
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