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- January 01, 1970
"Democrats Con-Job" - Trump DESTROYS ‘Affordability Hoax’ Despite SURGING Costs
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affordability keeps coming up and it's annoying a lot of different people tom
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dan it's just so frustrating right now that that affordability topic on what they're saying
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yesterday uh the president uh harry enton i want to go into right off the bat rob
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harry enton shows this poll on what's going on with the younger generation okay trump's net
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approval rating from ages 18 to 29 from february to now go ahead rob
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as you know donald trump put in the best performance for a republican presidential
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candidate among young voters since george w bush did back in the early 2000s and you know he started
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off his term his net approval rating among voters under the age of 30 at plus 10 points hey that's
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pretty gosh darn good but you come over now according to cbs news you gov this isn't falling
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into the water this isn't going on the seas this is going into a deep dark black hole look at that
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minus 46 points that is a shift on the net approval of 56 points in the wrong direction
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since february my goodness gracious you know i love looking at these swings looking how the
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electorate changes you rarely rarely ever see swings we look at a lot of polls we almost never see drops
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no it's big this quickly yeah any sense of why what issues may be driving it you know look we've been
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talking about it you were talking about it last segment with mr matt egan it's the economy stupid i mean
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just take a look here age 18 to 29 on trump in the economy back in october of 2024 who did those under
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the age of 30 trust harris or trump it was trump by 10 points according to the marquette university
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law school paul look at where his net approval rating is now on the economy minus 52 points very similar
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to what we saw in the cbs news you gov poll in terms of his overall drop in support on the net approval
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and this minus 52 varies yeah it's just stunning it's just stunning i mean john is here with me
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can pause it right there uh tom i'm going to come to you first then i'm coming to you then
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go ahead tom why do you think this is happening well uh harry pointed it out well uh the number one
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issue in the economy right now um there's actually a couple and i'm going to leave the iceberg for last
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uh the people are looking for higher paying jobs they're looking for jobs where they come out of
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college and i'm not talking about the kids that studied you know european art history and like
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gosh what can i do with that that degree those are the kids that are mismatched and never should have
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been studying those topics i'm talking about college graduates are saying it's increasingly difficult
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for me to find a job even stem jobs we see layoffs happening but the number one thing is affordability
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what happened under biden and we can talk about it all day long all the inflation was biden's fault
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and inflation is back down well it is down it's down to three percent versus two percent so it's
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down but what happened under all that inflation is cost of housing cost of insurance and those are
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the top two car insurance uh affects the youth 1829 and housing and they refer to this everybody's
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referring to it properly as affordability for the up-and-coming generation so they're like we supported
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you in here now we're looking for change and we're looking for and we need to see change so that we can
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afford to live and we can launch our our lives and careers and that's what's happening with this group
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now the democrat messaging has been hammering through the media that all this is all trump's fault
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inflation is trump's fault so there's a lot of stick that they're getting on that but the fact is
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trump's policies are going to make things more affordable but it's not happening as fast
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these people that are looking for housing and listening to launch their careers and lives
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want and the dems are pushing it and the president can say it's a hoax by the dem it is a messaging
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hoax but you have to counter it with messaging of your own and definitive things that help bring
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prices back down dan how do you address this well i i don't like to disagree on the on the first topic
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but uh my kid when he got out of undergraduate school my daughter took seven months to find a job
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and our son took nine months to find a job uh and they both found jobs and it was a recessionary time
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in both cases by making hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of phone calls hundreds and hundreds of
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letters out going on dozens and dozens and dozens of interviews and the kids today because i have a
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fairly large consortium that's got almost 40 companies and the kids go one of one interview and
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they don't even call back to find out how they did so they the elitists of that generation in my
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opinion are lazy i mean we don't have an affordability problem in my opinion all i know is
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when i bought my first house and my dad bought his first house that we couldn't afford he went out and
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worked overtime he got another job the kids don't want to have another job they expect right out of
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school to make all kinds of uh horatio uh crazy money six figure money and they have no experience
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whatsoever so i don't i the affordability to me is a matter of choice they're not looking hard enough
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and not working hard enough to get a job now what do you think when you see a plus minus 62 points
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right with 18 to 29 and let's just say the president comes up to you and says you guys are having dinner
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it's just the two of you and he says dan what do you think we focus on to fix with affordability what
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would you say well we sent the wrong message okay i believe that the uh the democrats and i don't
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believe that they do much right but this particular case they're doing the messaging better than we
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are and uh so we we have to up our game in messaging and i don't know who's advising the president
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on giving this message but he's got to change and he's got to change full disclosure i knew the
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president in another lifetime and uh he's not quick on change he's quicker now than he used to be and he
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likes to be right as we all at this table know he likes to be right and he abhors people to tell
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him he's not right okay so so messaging would be one issue got it uh on in regards to the kids you
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said your kids one of them took seven months to get a job the other one took nine months to get a job
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a little bit more persistent maybe that's a good message for the younger audience but some of the
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some of the folks may say the following they may say and brand i'm going to come to you with this one
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and see see what you think about this last night the mayor of miami who has been francis suarez
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for the last i don't know eight 12 years i don't know how long he's been there he's been there for
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quite some time and his father was also the previous mayor of miami for another eight or 12 year ex uh
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javier if i'm not mistaken right and he famously tweeted at elan how can i help elan responds back hey
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let's bring jobs to miami you know uh francis saying but last night the mayor who won last night
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beating emilio gonzalez the conservative was a democrat named eileen higgins okay she won last
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night in miami a member of the democratic party she previously served as a member of the miami-dade
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county commission from 2018 to 2025 higgins ran in 2025 and defeated republican candidate emilio gonzalez
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in a runoff making her the first woman ever and the first democrat since 1997 to be elected
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we're talking 30 years right so you got miami just went from a conservative mayor to a liberal
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mayor first time in 30 years you got new york goes from a liberal mayor adams to a democratic socialist
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mayor mamdani two big markets that we're talking about brandon you just turned 30 yeah when you see
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this happening you're a guy you know you got bachelor's and master's in national security you
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went into school the right way you know and then shifted not wanted to go into national security
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you wanted to get into business what do you think is going on here you think is it messaging is it
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actual issues is it actual things that's bothering that younger audience that's sitting there wanting
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to get their life started and saying hey man we got to do something about this what do you think is
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going on yeah i i um have to agree and disagree with you dan so the first of all the job thing yeah
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i agree you have to viciously attack that issue you have to you know apply like crazy you know i i did a
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lot of crazy things to get here and you know i could tell that story but uh when it comes in
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affordability like it's just an objective fact that it's a much different situation than it was when
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you were say my age you know because the cost of living like like think about how much money we added
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to the economy just in the last five years alone like we doubled the size of the money supply so you
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know we always talk about how it took like two years of an average salary to buy an average price
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house in the 70s today it takes like nine years of an average to buy an average price house so i know
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they're like exceptional people are going to make it happen no matter what but it's like the
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principle 20 people are like above average and 80 people are kind of just average people and
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when those people can't get by with like just food housing and energy those basic things you know
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that's when you risk socialism because like i think the like this the real pillar of a society like the
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the foundation of a society is a strong middle class and if you don't have a strong middle class
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then you start to have these like socialist tendencies so that's why i think we're seeing what we're
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seeing in new york and miami and i don't think trump is handling it well because he's kind of
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gaslighting by saying that the issue doesn't exist like it is a fact that it takes more than half of
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an average salary to pay for like the basic essential things to live and that's not a good situation
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well i'm not excuse me i'm not aware that it costs half uh of the um that's 50 years ago for me
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i just turned 80 yeah i'm not using that as an excuse but the numbers every generation has a
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reason why they're not happy with where they are economically going back to the 1900 uh and the uh
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the fact that trump is one year younger than i am and a lot of the people that advise him are almost
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his age there is a different reality it's like it's surreal and he's got his uh kushner who's appears
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to be a very bright guy but he's a billionaire i mean these guys that are advising him aren't
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30 years old uh struggling uh it's a very good point you're making and lot nick to the commerce
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i really like the point that you're making because sometimes you know you you you'll have people
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around you around your age and you're if you're not paying attention to what is going on with that
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generation you're not in communication with them like even if he speaks to his son baron yeah baron
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he's not the guy to speak to right it's and by the way this is why uh i believe the turning point
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usa audience is very very important because they're the ones that are the 18 19 20 year olds coming up
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that are going to school that are seeing the issues that are about to get married that are wanting to
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buy a house that are wanting to have kids that are like listen i'm feeling it yeah i think there's a
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i think tp usa could do a great job right now with their audience on running a survey
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with their audience of the 16 to 29 18 to 29 and asking them questions to get some intel back from
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that you see what i'm saying yeah because that's that's the audience they need to hear right on what
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they're going through to to be able to figure this part out and again this is a big no matter what
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anybody says if charlie kirk was here right now speaking to his younger audience what message would
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he be giving to them right now to his turning point usa audience adam where are you at with this
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because you're a miami guy you've been here your entire life minus the one year when you lived in
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your dream destination addison texas with the beaches there well what what do you think is going
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on here i'm with dan penny on this i think uh we have to stop focusing on the oval office and look in
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the mirror and fix your life trump's not going to fix your life biden wasn't going to fix your life
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obama the list goes on you have to fix your life everyone's complaining about affordability well you
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know where it's pretty much affordable outside of every single major city in america it's called
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supply and demand so yes if you're going to move to new york city yes if you're going to move to boston
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yes if you're going to use the la san francisco miami number one city in the world at this point
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yeah things are going to be a little bit more expensive because everyone's trying to move there
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nobody's trying to move to bumble f or to des moines iowa everyone wants to move to the best
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cities in the world that's like everyone wants to date the hottest chicks all girls want to date
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the richest guys everyone lives in the best cities so miami just under mayor francis suarez just became
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in my opinion the number one city in america if not the number one city in the world you're in america
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you're in miami la's in decline san francisco's in decline new york's in decline miami's on the rise
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dallas is on the rise certain uh southern cities on the rise listen uh if life is unaffordable and
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you're young get a roommate there's no guarantee that oh i'm an american i get a house that's that's
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bs so you may not be able to afford a house cool rent have a roommate so the affordability thing like
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tom mentioned it's the economy stupid uh james carville it's always the economy it's always a
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i'm with that pocket issues here's what i want you to think about here's what i want you to think
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about tom i'm going to come to you next so here's first rob if you want to play the clip of trump
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reacting to affordability and i'm going to come back to you adam if you can play this clip go for
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it is a con job by the democrats they say afford i watched the other day where some very low iq
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congresswoman talked about uh affordability affordability affordability she had no idea
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their prices were much higher the word affordability is a democrat scam okay so that's the clip that he's
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talking about and then he's give is this the talk yesterday you have or go ahead you know and i said
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it the other day and a lot of people misinterpreted they say oh he doesn't realize prices i prices are
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coming down very substantially but they have a new word you know they always have a hoax the new word is
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affordability affordability so they look at the camera and they say this election is all about
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affordability now they never talk about it they never talk thank you very much they say i'm not
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allowed to run i don't know what the hell that's all about but that's okay he said four more years
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you see the new hat we have four more years by the way while he's saying this gas prices dropped to
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the lowest in december 2025 and the last time they were this low uh which is around three dollars
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right now december 2025 was four years ago when trump was president 2021 that's gas prices right
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but what i want you to think about is what he just said right now a minute ago dan said affordability
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could be a messaging issue and then the other part also dan said which is you may need some of the
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younger audience around you to get a pulse and see what they're going on what is it right now
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national average gas price 294 rob can you go a year ago to see what the national
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average was exactly a year ago uh of where was that but this is what i want you to think okay
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so give me actual ideas because the part about the house it took three and a half times your salary to
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buy a house 40 50 years ago it takes eight eight and a half times your salary today to buy a house
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that's a real number okay so people are numbers again okay took around three and a half times your
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salary to buy a house 50 ish years ago okay so you're making 20 grand a year you could buy a house
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for 70 000 that's three and a half times today it's taking seven and a half to eight and a half
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times salary you're making 70 000 here do the math you know 450 whatever you want to put there right
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560 so those are real numbers car prices in america sky you know it was first time 50 000 average car
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price right but then the income is not going up at the same levels right what do you do trump asks you
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just purely cameras off you're just talking what do you think we can actually do not messaging what
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do you think we can actually do to address a few things so as far as individual economy or the
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affordability i want to find a way to make things a little bit more affordable for 18 to 29 year olds
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give me specific feedback what do you say listen since covid the game has changed permanently with ai
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technology we can't we're not playing by grandpa's old rules that i say this all the time the days of
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i get a job i go to college get a job get out of the workforce work for the same company for 40 years
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get my gold watch retire live on the system i live till 65 and retire so that that is so out the window
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it's an outdated antiquated approach people are living longer affordability is an issue but affordability
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has been an issue when the dot-com buzzle uh uh dot-com bust affordability was an issue right after
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i graduated college 2008 that's not what i'm asking you no don't give the greatest hits what i'm asking
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if you don't have it i'm going to go to town i'm telling you right now give me the ideas the ideas is
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you have to change your own system no that's not what i want to buy a house that's not that's not what
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that's the problem that's not what i want we still think they're going to buy a house so then i'm
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going to come to you tom you're not i'm not asking you that i understand what you're saying
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everybody in this room is self-sufficient everybody this is not this room that we're talking about
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everybody in this room gets up pays their bills takes care of their family takes care of all the
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stuff that they need to do we find ways to improve ourselves this is not this you just saw plus minus
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of 62 points tom he asks you you can be an analytical thinker what one two three steps do you give to do
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things with this i'll give you three steps but first i'll give you the one simple stat the day
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from the day he was inaugurated biden 2021 january of 21 to the day trump was inaugurated january of 25
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the rents in miami went up 38 percent in those four years and that is from numbers from the miami
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dade commission so this is self-reported by a democrat group who probably is rounding it down a
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little bit i saw numbers that said it was really closer to 60 percent in with young professionals
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that were making 75 to 80 000 a year professional job coming to miami looking for a place to rent
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not a white picket fence not to do all that so in other words we have incredible cost and they have
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insurance that's real so don't use the word affordable just say how do we bring down insurance
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cost and find affordable housing for people that want to make a miami great a financial analyst and
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want to earn 80 grand and move down here pat here's what we need we need very active engagement to reduce
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the red tape and regulation on builders and we need to the city to open up there is city land that is
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sitting in previous industrial areas that is still owned by the city that was long-term leases and stuff
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they need to release some of that land so we saw in dallas how they built a central town frisco a lot
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of apartments and a lot of nice areas for people who are going to work there we saw central town
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downtown dallas we saw the central town in addison remember those pat of course these were planned
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areas where someone like you you know making 75 80 grand a year getting this start and living in good
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safe affordable housing and yes it is going to be more expensive then so i think number one my number
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one point pat is the city has to take an active engagement with the entrepreneurs that are building
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affordable housing number one and number two the state insurance commissioner and that's needs to get
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their act together because the the regulations restrictions you put on insurance companies causes
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too many to leave and then there's not enough insurance and the price goes up people so i need
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the state on insurance i need the city on building permits and i need them to start talking about that
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so that people can hear oh someone's out there and by the way if there's more units out there
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then the relative rents are going to come down thanks to supply that's what they that's what i would be
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pushing on if i was mayor because those stats are real so why don't we why don't we think about this
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okay when when dan when we are uh uh uh in our and brandon you could go to this one as well but i'll
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come to you first so let's think about our top expenses when you're 25 years old to 30 years old
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it's going to be rent or car payment right would you put anything above that it's probably going to
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be are you married you're not married yet 25 okay housing transportation and then food yeah okay so
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in that order would you say in that order housing housing transportation and then food okay so
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address each address each so if you got a housing how do we address it build the car how do you
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address it so tom just said housing incentivize which we've talked about builders to build smaller
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homes because we're no longer building starter homes two-bedroom three-bedroom you've talked about
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this many many times it's now we're building four-bedroom homes we've seen the charts how to decline
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from 45 percent to now 10 15 percent of homes we're building are two three-bedroom homes right
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it's all four-bedroom because for many different reasons right yeah but think what do we do with
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housing what do we do with car and then what do we do with food housing is a three to five year
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what he suggested uh and i agree with him it's three to five years you got to change the zoning
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did that happen um and the councils etc have to vote on it uh the the people have to land bank the
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builders are going to have to go out and get land uh and uh do the planning and get all that
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approved that's three to five years before that's permitting yes exactly it's before you you put one
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shovel in the dirt we need a problem to be solved yesterday not three to five years how do you do
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that though dan that's not easy to do no no and but now the guy that won in um new york city uh mom
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exactly he pretends like his system or the socialistic system can do that but it can it's
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just as slow if not slower you know you know every time you see when the economy is bad for the younger
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audience you know the memberships and communism goes up membership for communism and socialism goes
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up you'll always see it you're like okay it kind of goes like you remember after the great depression
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you should see the memberships into the communistic party after the great depression
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during the great depression it was skyrocketing because the messaging was what the rich people are
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getting richer the poor getting poor if you vote communism the you know the government's going to
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take care of you and they're going to give this and that's kind of like the younger kids that just
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came out of college that have been brainwashed for four years by economists and professors who are on
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the liberal side and or part of pro-union they're like yeah yeah the rich people are the reason why
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you're poor and the reason why you don't have a job i hate rich people you know movies like joker comes out
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where the joker kills the rich guy in the movie and you know these are the bad people and you see
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luigi mangione boom let me go take out this insurance guy because of what they're doing
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and then and some temperature all of a sudden elevates right we we love christmas and our christmas
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merch is officially out and the hat that we couldn't keep a single one of these guys were ordering 50 of
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these at a time rob can you zoom in on that hat this hat was such a massive hit last year
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we sold 3 000 of them like this they were gone okay and people were buying it as christmas
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gifts for others and then they were sending it to their clients their friends it says merry christmas
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future looks bright on the bottom and on the side with the vt logo it's just a sick hat we got a few
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hats one of the hats sold out this one that says merry christ christmas this one sold out this one's
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gone but you have the red one you have the green one to choose from and then that one as well rob you
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have this one uh uh this other one we have as well if you want to go to this one rob this uh christmas
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on on the bottom right yeah right there and then we have the christmas if you want to go and show
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vinnie our model folks look at our models wearing their and and these come with a nice uh i look at
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this look at this this is the that's that's the the pajamas right the merry christmas pajamas the
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future looks bright they're so comfortable super super comfortable forget about the socks
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vinnie's wearing that made it in there those socks don't come with it no but they're modeling they
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look like a beautiful family so if you want your whole family to be wearing the the the the pajamas
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the merry christmas we also got these sweaters here as well max's sweater this is sick look at that go
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to vtmurch.com place your order and we decided for everybody that does it we just order a few
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thousand of these you're going to get the value tame and merry christmas ornament that we're going to
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give to you end of item the future looks bright santa claus merry christmas with any order you
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place go to vtmurch.com place your order and guess what kamala harris doesn't want you to say merry
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christmas and we don't mind saying it okay we don't mind saying it at all merry merry christmas
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