Valuetainment - October 15, 2025


“Democrats Will PRAISE Trump” - The Left's SECRET Plan To Winning The 2028 Election


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

202.14514

Word Count

3,361

Sentence Count

355

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, the boys discuss the midterms, J.D. Vance's chances of winning the primary, and why he's a better choice than Gavin Newsom for president in 2028. They also talk about why they think it's a bad idea for a Republican to run against Trump for president.


Transcript

00:00:00.500 Last time midterms came, Republicans said it's going to be a red wave.
00:00:05.540 They're going to do this, they're going to do that.
00:00:07.560 Let's see what's going to happen.
00:00:09.380 Let's see if any of this stuff is going to translate.
00:00:12.560 Let's see if any of this stuff is going to be converting and helping the left or the right.
00:00:17.200 But there's a lot going to be done between now and then.
00:00:19.600 You have the annual 250, you have the World Cup, you have Trump's birthday, you have all these tariff deals.
00:00:25.240 By next midterms, rates are going to be lowered five more times, give or take, according to what Goldman and some of these other guys are saying.
00:00:35.620 Rates are going to be lowered five times between now and then.
00:00:38.760 Maybe the public offering opens up, maybe more IPOs, maybe the market's going to be a little bit more excited, maybe some things open up.
00:00:46.440 Then what happens with the red wave?
00:00:48.600 And then what happens with the red wave?
00:00:49.960 And then for me, truthfully, you think about it, who the hell is President 28?
00:00:58.440 Like seriously, who is going to be President 2028?
00:01:01.280 J.D. Vance.
00:01:02.160 You think it's going to be J.D. Vance?
00:01:03.420 Well, here's what I think.
00:01:05.340 If Trump keeps racking up victories, I mean, it's only been nine, ten months, you know.
00:01:13.620 But if he keeps stopping wars or conflicts and returning hostages, if he keeps racking up victories and that's the direction we seem to be going, a lot of winning, then the next guy just has to be an extension of Trump.
00:01:31.420 And we'll just – someone's going to go, I want to keep this trajectory and this motion going this direction.
00:01:40.140 But you've got to have victories and you've got to have momentum and you've got to have positivity.
00:01:44.840 I'm going to push back on you because I think, unfortunately, you might be factually incorrect because there's only one Trump.
00:01:51.540 And if you look at the polling right now, actually pulled it up to the Rob, right now, quote unquote, J.D. Vance is the favorite in the Republican Party and your friend, your dear friend, Gavin Newsom, is the most likely candidate on the left.
00:02:03.260 But if you scroll down a little bit, you could show that it's a dead even race looking forward to 2028.
00:02:08.380 I don't like to speculate.
00:02:09.600 I don't like to look that far ahead.
00:02:10.960 But for any Republican who just thinks that J.D. Vance is just walking into the White House, you got some explaining to do.
00:02:19.080 Because in my opinion, your governor, your wonderful, amazing psychopath, I believe you called him, I'm a governor, sociopath, is the most likely president in 2028.
00:02:30.300 And he will reverse everything Trump's done.
00:02:32.800 To me, that is the scariest thing out there right now.
00:02:34.940 But if you stop the war in Ukraine and beef prices come down and gas – you know, if there's a lot – I'm saying with the caveat of lots of victories versus you want to go back to California governance, I think he will.
00:02:48.340 Well, Adam, because – like, what's the selling point?
00:02:50.760 I think Gavin Newsom, if you just look at a candidate, if you're – the average American will look at a good-looking Gavin Newsom and standing up to Trump and a younger sort of unknown commodity as J.D. Vance, I think the average American who does not know a lot about politics will break towards Newsom.
00:03:07.880 That's how dumb Americans are.
00:03:08.880 But I think Adam makes a good point.
00:03:10.720 It's like –
00:03:11.660 Good Adam, you mean?
00:03:12.640 Good Adam.
00:03:13.380 But it's like all the wins that are happening, it's like what – I'm just curious.
00:03:17.620 I completely believe that Democrats are just like, we want the guy with the good hair.
00:03:21.440 Trump is kicking butt so much.
00:03:23.580 Like, what is the other person going to run on?
00:03:25.700 Because Gavin so far is just going, Trump is bad, Trump is Hitler, Trump is –
00:03:29.760 They'll come up with some – like, it was all Trump, J.D. Vance didn't do anything.
00:03:32.880 Can you do what they'll actually say?
00:03:34.120 Yeah.
00:03:34.580 Let me tell you what I would actually say.
00:03:36.320 You ready?
00:03:36.760 Go ahead.
00:03:37.520 I would actually, if I was advising the Democrats, when it is the last six months – I'm not talking about primary, I'm talking about general election.
00:03:47.280 During the general election, you're going to hear Democrats talk about that J.D. Vance isn't Trump.
00:03:54.800 Oh, good point.
00:03:55.720 They're going to build up Trump.
00:03:57.320 Yeah.
00:03:58.400 You're going to see in the weirdest way, they're going to campaign towards how amazing Trump is, and that doesn't mean J.D. is Trump.
00:04:06.880 Great point.
00:04:07.540 It's not.
00:04:08.180 Great point.
00:04:08.740 That's what they're going to do.
00:04:09.760 He can't do that.
00:04:10.020 Or you're not going to see it until about June of 20 – July of 2028.
00:04:16.040 Praising him and saying –
00:04:17.080 Praising him.
00:04:18.260 He'll never amount to that.
00:04:19.600 He actually was a dealmaker.
00:04:21.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:22.120 He was a businessman.
00:04:23.140 He was a commodity.
00:04:24.480 Who's this guy?
00:04:25.340 And those people in the basement vaping are going to go, yeah.
00:04:27.340 Yeah, you're right.
00:04:28.280 I'm telling you.
00:04:29.020 It's a dead even heat right now, 2028.
00:04:32.020 Democrats have the lowest approval rating they've ever had, yet they're still exactly even for 2028.
00:04:38.200 Yeah, words talk and numbers scream.
00:04:40.140 Right now, the polling numbers are very neutral on both sides.
00:04:43.860 When you look at long-term, we're at a point of neutrality.
00:04:48.440 You have to look at the following.
00:04:51.080 You know, and this is what we looked at when we did our polling episodes that we would do coming up to the election.
00:04:58.320 The intensity of what an Arizona voter felt about immigration was like 8.9.
00:05:05.820 The intensity of what a Missouri voter felt about immigration was like a 4.
00:05:11.580 So you have to look at the intensity.
00:05:13.740 In other words, both Democrats and Republicans in Arizona, where people were actually coming across the border and sleeping in the alleyway behind your house and causing actual physical problems with just humanity and waste and everything that was going with it.
00:05:29.300 That's the intensity.
00:05:30.040 Right now, the intensity for the election on these pollings is like a 5.
00:05:34.220 When you drop down into it, it's a 5.
00:05:36.500 So people are being polled, but they're not at the point of, oh, crap, this matters.
00:05:42.240 We're going to get there.
00:05:43.340 We're going to get there.
00:05:44.140 And I agree with you on the strategy side.
00:05:46.040 We're going to get there.
00:05:46.900 But right now, this stuff is going to be back and forth like a gentle pendulum.
00:05:52.520 And I think that J.D. Vance, they're sending him out to drive energy.
00:05:57.020 Everywhere you see J.D. Vance's driving energy in every encounter, and I think it's very intentional, but it's going to be gentle until we get to next year.
00:06:05.240 And J.D. is going to have the backing of a handful of very powerful people.
00:06:09.800 Oh, yeah.
00:06:10.480 Okay.
00:06:10.920 One, Musk, I think we'll get behind J.D.
00:06:13.780 Yep.
00:06:14.460 Thiel, Peter Thiel, we'll get behind J.D.
00:06:17.780 And, you know, Ellison, those guys are going to get behind J.D.
00:06:22.900 I agree.
00:06:23.460 I think those guys are very, very important.
00:06:25.140 The left has to sit there figuring out how the hell do you get Zuck back?
00:06:31.000 How the hell do you get those guys back?
00:06:34.120 And they're not done.
00:06:35.300 They never underestimate the power of, you know, what the enemy is going to do.
00:06:38.740 They're not sitting around just sitting there saying, well, maybe we go to 2032, you know?
00:06:43.740 Nope.
00:06:44.360 Not them.
00:06:45.280 And you know what else is exciting for TV for 2028?
00:06:48.420 You know what else is exciting about 2028?
00:06:50.240 For TV.
00:06:51.180 Like, you know how much I love Katie Porter?
00:06:52.840 She's great for TV, right?
00:06:54.060 If she was willing, I'd sign her for her take.
00:06:56.260 She's my kind of a person.
00:06:57.540 100%.
00:06:57.860 Her take.
00:06:58.620 You got a job.
00:06:59.520 You don't make it?
00:07:00.320 She can sign.
00:07:00.680 Come on down, right?
00:07:01.240 She can stay with me.
00:07:01.940 Did you ever think you would make it?
00:07:02.520 But let me tell you what I'm most excited about 2028.
00:07:06.640 There's going to be so many, you know, draft picks of people running for president in 2028
00:07:13.260 that are going to come out of nowhere.
00:07:14.320 You're going to be like, what?
00:07:16.500 Like, man, John McAfee, I'm running for president.
00:07:19.300 You're like, wait, anti-virus John McAfee running for president.
00:07:22.580 You're going to have the weirdest people announced because it's officially you're not getting in
00:07:28.720 Trump's way.
00:07:29.340 Yep.
00:07:29.540 Of course.
00:07:30.020 He's done his two terms.
00:07:30.840 Go for it.
00:07:31.340 The floodgates are going to open up, and it's going to be awesome for TV.
00:07:37.180 I hope some crazy personalities get in that I hope it's not going to be like, well, according
00:07:43.860 to the Constitution, you know, it's just like, I'm bored out of my mind.
00:07:48.220 It's like I'm watching freaking, you know, Mike Huckabee's championship game with nobody
00:07:53.840 like me.
00:07:54.760 Imagine if the World Series is Mariners against pick one of the teams, Cubs, right?
00:08:00.720 I don't know.
00:08:01.420 Milwaukee Brewers.
00:08:01.640 Milwaukee Brewers.
00:08:02.520 Give me a flip and break.
00:08:03.920 You know who I want to see?
00:08:04.920 I want to see Dodgers, Yankees.
00:08:06.420 You and me both.
00:08:06.920 I want to see Dodgers, Yankees, right?
00:08:08.700 Who wants to see these?
00:08:09.700 But listen, I'm sure if I go to Chicago, they're going to slash my tires.
00:08:12.780 They're going to slash Uber driver's tires.
00:08:14.900 Or what do you call them?
00:08:15.580 Milwaukee or some of these other places.
00:08:16.880 We were in Milwaukee last year, by the way.
00:08:18.980 We love Milwaukee.
00:08:20.000 It's a great place.
00:08:20.880 Go Robin Yount.
00:08:22.120 He was awesome.
00:08:23.020 Yeah.
00:08:23.240 Homeowner.
00:08:23.520 Big fan.
00:08:24.120 3,000 hits.
00:08:25.080 Gorman Thomas.
00:08:25.540 You're phenomenal, right?
00:08:27.260 Anyways, Pat, do you think that J.D. Vance has that it factor?
00:08:32.580 Because here's my opinion.
00:08:34.740 Remember the debate between DeSantis and Gavin Newsom?
00:08:37.100 DeSantis whooped him up, yet everyone thought that Gavin won.
00:08:41.540 I'm actually a big advocate of J.D. Vance.
00:08:43.460 I don't think he's got the it factor that Newsom has.
00:08:46.520 And I'm not a fan of Newsom.
00:08:47.480 Do you think he has the it factor?
00:08:48.360 Here's how I would answer that.
00:08:49.420 And I want to wrap up.
00:08:50.540 So here's how I would answer that.
00:08:52.040 And, you know, the way I would answer is, you know how in the 80s,
00:08:57.140 everything was about having a big center in the NBA.
00:09:01.000 Everybody wanted a center.
00:09:02.400 The league was the center league, right?
00:09:05.060 Yeah, David Robertson.
00:09:05.580 Tom, I know you've got to use the restroom.
00:09:06.640 So it was like all about centers, right?
00:09:08.760 Tom, get out of here.
00:09:09.340 Yeah.
00:09:09.700 It was all about centers.
00:09:10.940 Rob already went.
00:09:12.080 But it was all about centers.
00:09:13.220 And then a guy named Michael Jordan shows up.
00:09:15.040 He's like, oh, shit.
00:09:15.980 We got to beat this guy up.
00:09:17.720 So Pistons beat him without a center.
00:09:19.380 Lambier's not a center.
00:09:20.180 His vertical leap was six inches.
00:09:21.400 He wasn't necessarily a center center, but it was tough and rugged.
00:09:26.220 And in the 90s, it changed, right?
00:09:28.660 And in 2000, it changed.
00:09:30.620 The first, you know, Celtics.
00:09:32.580 You know, you got Paul Pierce.
00:09:34.260 It took a big three type of thing.
00:09:35.860 I think 2028 strategy is going to be very different because possibly the greatest character ever to enter politics is gone.
00:09:45.780 And there's going to be such a vacuum.
00:09:49.180 I don't even think people are ready for it.
00:09:51.040 I'm telling you.
00:09:52.060 What is the new center, so to speak?
00:09:54.560 It's not about the center.
00:09:55.820 It's about you have to sit there and be like, dude, we will never have a guy like that again.
00:10:01.540 Never.
00:10:02.000 I'm going to have to.
00:10:02.760 You're going to have to settle for somebody.
00:10:04.740 There is no up.
00:10:06.060 I don't know how to describe it.
00:10:07.020 We're going to go down.
00:10:07.880 No, you have to settle.
00:10:09.160 Yeah.
00:10:09.380 You have to settle.
00:10:10.400 Like, you know, maybe you were.
00:10:12.020 You have.
00:10:12.800 I know we're going to wrap up.
00:10:14.200 Adam.
00:10:14.600 Who's going to.
00:10:15.200 Who's going to.
00:10:15.800 I know we're going to wrap up, guys.
00:10:17.420 Who's going to.
00:10:17.900 I know we're going to wrap up, guys.
00:10:19.380 But Adam, there's nobody.
00:10:20.440 He was wrapping up and then you interrupted again.
00:10:22.040 I actually want to hear this.
00:10:23.220 There's nobody that's ever going to get to what you were.
00:10:24.800 You got 10 seconds.
00:10:26.300 Okay.
00:10:26.900 Who above Trump?
00:10:27.720 We're still living in social media.
00:10:28.900 We're still living in the attention economy.
00:10:30.700 The days of policy wonk, they're done.
00:10:33.440 It's all about personality.
00:10:34.720 It's all about attention.
00:10:35.200 So who above Trump?
00:10:35.960 JD doesn't have it, is my point.
00:10:37.840 The only person on the right that I think has it, if we can get this guy going again,
00:10:42.460 it's one name.
00:10:43.800 Vivek.
00:10:44.300 No way.
00:10:44.720 That guy's a gangster.
00:10:45.220 No way.
00:10:45.820 No.
00:10:45.960 I'm telling you right now.
00:10:46.960 Nope.
00:10:47.480 Vivek could do it.
00:10:48.340 With all due respect, absolutely not.
00:10:51.060 Vivek has learned his lesson.
00:10:52.200 He's going to come up firing.
00:10:53.900 I like Vivek.
00:10:55.040 Dana White.
00:10:56.580 Dana White.
00:10:57.400 Look at you.
00:10:58.000 See, you got like.
00:10:58.820 By the way, like he is going in the right direction.
00:11:01.680 I agree with him.
00:11:03.120 To me, that's who is a guy that, you know, the market's going to be like, what the, Dana?
00:11:09.680 Like, I think a guy like that.
00:11:11.700 You need somebody that's been inside the flip.
00:11:14.300 We're at the Vol Conference.
00:11:16.240 Everybody, you remember what happened during the Vol Conference?
00:11:18.920 Audio, everything.
00:11:20.000 Oh my God, how did you guys hold it together?
00:11:23.200 This is the day-to-day stuff.
00:11:25.020 The next level, Dana's been inside the storm for 20, his entire life.
00:11:30.360 You're going to get some, you're going to get some weird people getting into it.
00:11:33.740 Some very weird people getting into it.
00:11:34.800 That would put Trump in a very hard predicament, choosing between his VP and his UFC friend,
00:11:38.580 Dana White.
00:11:39.000 Every time we do the Vol Conference, if you've attended, you know this.
00:11:41.900 Because I stand up and I speak for probably 45 hours, is what I do, at the Vol Conference.
00:11:47.820 And I love it.
00:11:48.500 I love being around the guys.
00:11:49.520 I love it.
00:11:50.280 But I wear the Ferragamo shoes when I do this.
00:11:53.580 Or I wear some kind of dress shoes.
00:11:56.260 Eventually, for the last 25 years, I've always been on stage walking.
00:11:59.520 I'm like, you know what?
00:12:00.180 I'm sick and tired of it.
00:12:01.360 I want a shoe that I'm comfortable wearing.
00:12:04.100 And here's what I love.
00:12:05.380 I don't like shoes that are so heavy.
00:12:07.280 That's a dumbbell.
00:12:07.880 You can use it as a weapon.
00:12:09.180 I don't want that.
00:12:09.840 Like, the Xenia, you carry it.
00:12:11.140 I have so many of them, but they're so heavy.
00:12:12.800 Like, you can literally curl the Xenia dumbbell, you know, the shoes, and you'll get a pump within 30 reps.
00:12:17.480 And I wanted the combination of the Hoka, the On Cloud, the Super Foam, because there's a big thing going on right now with the Super Foam,
00:12:25.080 where the bottom of the shoe, you wear it.
00:12:26.920 You know which ones I'm talking about, the On Cloud or the Hoka's, right?
00:12:29.140 They're so comfortable.
00:12:29.740 And I said, what if we take luxury and then combine it with the Super Comfort, what would that look like?
00:12:36.900 And let's build it in Italy.
00:12:38.360 So what do we do?
00:12:39.200 We went to Italy.
00:12:40.380 We designed the shoe in Florida.
00:12:42.220 We made the shoe in Italy in five of the factories.
00:12:45.820 We went back in Fort God knows how many times.
00:12:47.900 And by the way, the shoes we're about to launch and introduce to you right now, where you're going to see the video for the first time.
00:12:53.060 I've been wearing those shoes for the last 22 days straight.
00:12:56.640 I'm wearing them right now.
00:12:57.560 I literally wear it with suits.
00:12:58.880 I wore it yesterday when we went to lunch.
00:13:01.240 I wear it every single day.
00:13:02.720 It's the most comfortable shoes I have, yet it's authentic Italian leather wrap.
00:13:07.480 If you don't mind playing the video, go for it.
00:13:09.680 Here's a video of the latest shoe, the FLBs.
00:13:12.380 When we set out to create a shoe that blends comfort, function, and luxury, we had the choice to make it fast.
00:13:20.300 We had the choice to make it cheap.
00:13:22.480 We chose neither.
00:13:23.980 Instead, we chose Toscanero.
00:13:25.640 We chose true Italian craftsmanship, each pair touched by 50 skilled hands.
00:13:31.800 We chose patience, spending two years perfecting every detail, and we chose the finest quality at every step.
00:13:39.200 Introducing the Future Looks Bright collection.
00:13:42.960 Not rushed, not disposable, not ordinary.
00:13:46.460 Rather intentional, luxurious, timeless.
00:13:51.500 There you go.
00:13:56.820 Designed in Florida, 100% made in Italy.
00:13:59.660 50 hands touch each shoe that was made.
00:14:02.620 And here's what's unique about it.
00:14:03.820 I want to kind of show this to everybody that knows this.
00:14:06.260 And I've worn pretty much every one of these shoes.
00:14:08.120 So, if you compare this, the Italian leather, of course, it's made in Italy.
00:14:12.940 It's not assembled, made in China, assembled in Italy.
00:14:15.760 100% made in Italy, assembled in Italy.
00:14:18.120 It's FLBs, Berlutis, which are 1840.
00:14:21.480 Fergamos are 895.
00:14:22.780 Zennias are 1190.
00:14:23.840 And Gucci's are 950.
00:14:25.520 Leather premium lining, all of them except for Gucci.
00:14:28.800 Laceless feature.
00:14:29.840 It's the FLBs, the Berlutis.
00:14:31.640 You have laces.
00:14:32.900 Fergamos, laceless.
00:14:34.480 And then you have also the Zennias.
00:14:35.760 And then the Gucci's have the laces.
00:14:36.960 I don't want to wake up in the morning, put laces on.
00:14:38.680 I want to get out of the house.
00:14:39.400 Took me three seconds to put my shoes on today.
00:14:42.240 Craftsman, five different Italian factories all made this shoe.
00:14:46.180 Berlutis are the same as us, as well as FLB.
00:14:48.400 But the only shoe, these trainers, the only one in the world today,
00:14:52.380 according to the factories that told me this, in Italy,
00:14:55.200 that has the super foam, the only one that has the same super foam used
00:14:59.300 in the On Clouds and the Hocus, it's the FLBs.
00:15:02.920 And they're officially out, and you can place the order.
00:15:05.500 Here's a challenge.
00:15:06.660 We only have 1,000 of these pairs.
00:15:09.420 And when you say 1,000 of these pairs, they start from size, I believe,
00:15:12.780 is it 8?
00:15:13.860 It goes 8, 9, 10, 10 1⁄2, 11, 11 1⁄2, 12, 13.
00:15:18.720 Those are the sizes that we have.
00:15:20.480 And the shoes that you can get today, the colors, you have access to, Rob,
00:15:24.140 if you can go back there, you can have access to those browns,
00:15:26.500 which is absolutely beautiful.
00:15:28.320 And by the way, the brown on the bottom, the stitching on the side is a left stitching.
00:15:31.960 If you can change the picture, and on the bottom, it says the future looks bright.
00:15:36.420 Look at the white lines on the side.
00:15:39.760 It's beautiful.
00:15:40.420 The only ones we have right now that you can get sent out today are the black and the browns.
00:15:45.540 If you do want the white to preorder, I would highly recommend you do so.
00:15:49.980 They're going to come out the second week of December.
00:15:51.820 So the white and the navy blue comes out the second week of December.
00:15:55.020 The browns and the blacks are available.
00:15:57.420 People, if you believe the future looks bright as much as we do, go place the order.
00:16:01.820 There's nothing like sitting in the boardroom with your trainers,
00:16:04.860 and you put your feet over your knee, and people look at the bottom of your shoe,
00:16:08.100 and it says the future looks bright.
00:16:09.340 That's how you get deals done.
00:16:10.420 All right, so they're out.
00:16:11.360 I'm excited to announce it, and I'm very happy for people to go sport it.
00:16:15.040 When you get them, take pictures, send it our way.
00:16:17.260 We're going to show all these shoes, all the pictures that are being taken.
00:16:19.500 I already got a bunch of them sent to me on Instagram.
00:16:21.500 Go to vtmerch.com.
00:16:22.880 Place your order.
00:16:23.740 It's all over the website.
00:16:24.900 Maybe buy it for your husband.
00:16:26.240 Buy it for your brother.
00:16:27.020 Buy it for your coworkers.
00:16:28.580 Buy it for your best salespeople if you want to let them know the future looks bright.
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