Valuetainment - March 27, 2025


“Diaper Rash Indicator” – 9 SHOCKING Recession Signs Suggest A MAJOR Economic Collapse Is Coming


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00:00:00.000 Nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks.
00:00:05.520 There's a lot of talks right now about recession.
00:00:07.880 A lot.
00:00:08.360 A lot of people want it to happen.
00:00:10.420 Some people think it may happen due to some of the policies that we're having,
00:00:14.920 but we kind of need to go through it.
00:00:16.500 But let's take a look at this.
00:00:17.920 So nine weird recession indicators from lipstick to snacks,
00:00:21.320 according to Business Insider.
00:00:23.280 Number one, snack index.
00:00:25.520 People buy fewer snacks during recessions with evidence from 2008,
00:00:29.520 Great Recession, showing reduced consumption of snacks, fast food, and fresh produce.
00:00:34.480 General Mills, maker of Chex Mix and Nature Valley's granola bars,
00:00:39.580 reported a 5% drop in net sales in Q3 of 2025.
00:00:44.940 We're not even in Q3.
00:00:46.560 Is it orders?
00:00:47.460 I don't know why it says Q3 here.
00:00:48.600 Number two, mini alcohol bottle indicator.
00:00:52.320 Shoppers switch to mini bottles of alcohol during economic uncertainty
00:00:56.440 instead of full-size ones.
00:00:58.540 And CEO of Lawson Whiting says the reason small sizes are doing well
00:01:03.340 is more because of the cyclical inflation and its consumer that's pinched.
00:01:07.820 Okay, so if you're ordering those mini alcohol bottles, that's an indicator.
00:01:12.760 Three, lipstick index.
00:01:14.280 Coined by Leonard Lauder, billionaire heir to Estee Lauder in 2001,
00:01:19.040 when lipstick sales rose during a recession.
00:01:22.100 Lauder's theory.
00:01:22.760 Lipstick sales and the health of the economy were in inverse proportion to one another.
00:01:27.840 Sales rose in 2001 by 11%, boomed in 2008 during Great Recession,
00:01:33.440 and great recently despite high inflation.
00:01:36.240 Interesting.
00:01:36.980 Lipstick.
00:01:37.920 Underwear index.
00:01:39.160 What is this one?
00:01:39.940 Popularized by former Federer, Alan Griesman, suggests that men delay buying new underwear
00:01:44.660 during downturns.
00:01:45.740 Yeah, this is the chairman of the Fed talking about interest rates and underwear sales.
00:01:50.500 My dad, since 21 years old, for my birthday and my Christmas only gets me Costco underwear.
00:01:54.720 I don't understand.
00:01:55.340 Do you wear that?
00:01:56.040 I have enough underwear right now that I'm not open to start a side business.
00:01:59.240 If anybody's struggling, guys, my dad's got cases in our house.
00:02:04.040 I don't know.
00:02:04.280 He's worried about underwear.
00:02:05.240 Yeah.
00:02:05.660 But I love you, dad.
00:02:06.620 I know you've been doing that for a while.
00:02:07.740 So sales dipped in 2008.
00:02:09.400 Same thing with underwear.
00:02:11.220 Hemline index.
00:02:12.580 It claims that skirts shorten in good economic and lengthen in bad ones.
00:02:19.180 That is so weird.
00:02:20.520 From the 1920s.
00:02:22.300 So in good economy, ladies wear shorter skirt.
00:02:25.520 In bad economy, they wear longer skirts.
00:02:28.020 How the hell does that make any sense?
00:02:29.520 Next one.
00:02:30.540 Cardboard box indicator.
00:02:32.520 In early 2009, during the recession, shipments declined drastically
00:02:35.860 and manufacturers operated.
00:02:37.840 Rates fell.
00:02:38.540 This one's real.
00:02:39.460 Yeah.
00:02:39.800 Diaper rash indicator.
00:02:41.280 Diaper rash.
00:02:41.920 Parents ration diapers costing $500 to $900 a year during rough times,
00:02:46.720 increasing diaper rash and ointment sales.
00:02:50.260 And in 2011, diaper sales fell.
00:02:52.360 Ointment sales rose 8%, according to Wall Street Journal.
00:02:55.440 Champagne index.
00:02:56.380 U.S. sales fell from 23 million bottles pre-2008 to 12.5 million bottles in 2000.
00:03:03.520 That's a 50% drop off, according to UC Berkeley.
00:03:06.320 And then to 18%, it dropped in 2020 before hitting a $5.7 billion in 2021 and socializing resumed.
00:03:12.380 So in the last but not list, stripper index, exotic dancers noticed recessions early, says Alia Kisick, CEO of Financial Literacy.
00:03:21.460 Economist Peter added a decrease in restaurant tipping suggests that consumers are reducing discretionary spending.
00:03:28.320 Okay, Adam, your thoughts on the story.
00:03:29.600 Well, these are all just indicators, right?
00:03:32.600 So just like the S&P 500 is an index, is an indicator of what's going on in the economy.
00:03:38.120 By the way, since January, Tom, help me out here.
00:03:42.260 How has the market performed since Trump has taken office?
00:03:44.860 Bless you, Rob.
00:03:45.280 Well, it's down in the last trailing 30, trailing 60, as market sentiment is reacting negatively to the tariffs and what that could do to future earnings.
00:03:58.960 And so there's a lot of concern about that.
00:04:00.820 But also the S&P, I think, just had a four-day rally in the midst of all this.
00:04:06.460 I think just the last four days in a row, I believe.
00:04:08.180 Right.
00:04:08.440 So I feel like just recently the market has now broken even, like it was negative for the year recently.
00:04:14.100 But we've all discussed what's going on with the tariffs.
00:04:17.260 We feel like it's a necessary evil to help the economy.
00:04:20.860 Food poisoning.
00:04:21.160 The economy's got to get through some food poisoning.
00:04:23.020 It's almost like if you have cancer and you have to take a cancer drug or have to deal with going through the ill effects of that,
00:04:32.500 that's exactly what's going on with the economy right now.
00:04:34.300 But here are three things that I want to point out.
00:04:36.460 Of these nine indicators, number one, instead of buying regular bottles of alcohol, they're buying many bottles of alcohol.
00:04:44.580 Because you've still got to get drunk.
00:04:46.260 Right, Vin?
00:04:46.800 I mean, you understand, like, people, when they're alcoholics and they're at the party.
00:04:50.740 Yeah.
00:04:51.100 I know you're alcohol-free these days.
00:04:53.300 Yeah.
00:04:53.900 May 31st is two years.
00:04:55.480 And we're very proud of you.
00:04:56.480 Thank you.
00:04:56.800 If you were still drinking.
00:04:57.920 Oh, yeah.
00:04:58.440 Rather than getting a quart or a liter.
00:05:00.280 Like a little nipple.
00:05:00.600 You got little things.
00:05:01.300 You take them in your pocket.
00:05:02.200 Oh, all day.
00:05:03.040 Okay.
00:05:03.540 Number two, the diaper rash index.
00:05:05.260 By the way, let me ask you guys.
00:05:06.240 Yes, sir.
00:05:06.780 Have you ever bought small bottles of alcohol?
00:05:09.340 Yes.
00:05:09.820 Have you?
00:05:10.500 No.
00:05:10.860 Really?
00:05:11.200 Oh, honestly, I can say.
00:05:12.600 Because tequila Jose Cueva was so cheap to small bottles, why would I go buy the small ones?
00:05:16.480 Even when I was in the army and I was broke.
00:05:18.260 Well.
00:05:18.620 You guys really bought the small ones?
00:05:19.820 If I was driving.
00:05:22.040 Oh, okay.
00:05:22.560 Really?
00:05:22.760 Hey, if I was going somewhere, like if I was driving to a comic club.
00:05:24.760 Oh, if I was driving.
00:05:25.640 I would do it.
00:05:26.400 And then, dog, I was an alcoholic.
00:05:27.840 There ain't no shame in my game.
00:05:28.940 I would, right before I went in.
00:05:30.080 Would you drink and drive or would you pull over and take sips?
00:05:32.720 I did a lot of things.
00:05:33.740 I did a lot of crazy stuff.
00:05:35.620 Okay, so what else?
00:05:36.220 Let's see what else you did.
00:05:36.760 But here's another little hot tip for anybody out there.
00:05:38.700 You might have noticed, you know, drinks in clubs are like a hundred times more expensive.
00:05:43.220 Yeah.
00:05:43.400 So, you know, you bring a couple mini bottles in the club, next thing you know, or you have
00:05:49.480 a girl with a purse.
00:05:50.380 How much are drinks at the club right now?
00:05:51.980 Oh, in Miami?
00:05:53.260 Yeah.
00:05:53.660 20 bucks a pop.
00:05:54.440 That's insane.
00:05:54.860 For what though?
00:05:56.200 I mean, just standard cocktail.
00:05:57.820 Yeah.
00:05:58.460 20 bucks a pop.
00:05:59.060 What's a standard cocktail?
00:05:59.860 For ghetto liquor.
00:06:00.360 I mean.
00:06:00.800 Single martini off and just shell vodka, not a upscale.
00:06:04.480 If you want a cocktail, it's going to cost you 20 bucks.
00:06:06.560 Maybe it's 16 and they add tax and tip, bing, bing, bing, you're at 20.
00:06:10.180 Sometimes it's, yeah, here you go right here.
00:06:12.240 Well, that's what we were drinking in the car.
00:06:16.800 Like, that's why we would like, we would get, I'm dead serious.
00:06:18.980 We would get the little bottles.
00:06:20.020 And before we walked into the club, we would drink fast, go and have fun and have one drink
00:06:24.820 in the night.
00:06:25.380 Or you have a girl or the purse.
00:06:27.360 She brings a couple of bottles in the club.
00:06:29.260 You know, she does your dirty work for you.
00:06:30.820 Okay.
00:06:31.260 So here's another thing.
00:06:32.360 The three things.
00:06:33.940 Number two, the diaper rash index.
00:06:36.440 I mean, how tough are times if you're not going to basically get enough diapers and diaper
00:06:43.260 rash, ointments, Vaseline, what do you use for kids these days?
00:06:46.280 I don't know.
00:06:47.040 I don't have kids, but your kids are going to suffer.
00:06:49.820 There you go.
00:06:50.560 But then here's the big one, Pat.
00:06:52.140 And I'm sure it's going to create a little storm here.
00:06:54.640 But you know who notices recessions before anybody?
00:06:59.640 Forget Jim Cramer.
00:07:00.980 Forget Warren Buffett.
00:07:02.260 It's candy to the stage, candy to the stage, because strippers notice recessions before anybody,
00:07:09.500 because they are the sole beneficiary of consumer discretionary spending.
00:07:16.760 They're used to making it rain, $100 bills at a time.
00:07:19.540 Next thing you know, they're getting quarters.
00:07:21.020 Here we go.
00:07:21.620 Uh-oh.
00:07:22.700 Recession happening right now.
00:07:23.980 So across the U.S. and the U.K., strip clubs have slowed down significantly.
00:07:33.160 I mean, the last thing we need for a market is to go flat.
00:07:35.400 Same thing for the ladies out there.
00:07:36.580 But here's a little quote from Nikki Adams, who runs the campaign group English Collective
00:07:42.960 of Prostitutes.
00:07:45.100 She says,
00:07:45.580 The cost of living crisis is having terrible effect on sex workers.
00:07:48.240 We recorded a 30% jump in the last year in the number of callers seeking support.
00:07:53.400 Women are calling us upset and scared.
00:07:56.140 Women are frantically asking if we can provide food vouchers for food banks.
00:08:00.440 So they're having housing problems.
00:08:02.700 I guess this is going on all around the globe right now.
00:08:05.660 But it is a leading indicator of a recession.
00:08:08.980 So we'll see what happens.
00:08:09.820 Rob, the poll you ran of do you see the United States going into recession in 2025?
00:08:17.220 Okay.
00:08:17.500 Watch how it came out.
00:08:19.060 It's actually very interesting how everybody voted.
00:08:21.760 2,400 people have voted so far.
00:08:23.540 2,500 people have voted so far.
00:08:25.080 And the vote results are 53, no, 47, yes.
00:08:29.820 But 47 believe it could happen this year.
00:08:33.420 So it's 50-50.
00:08:34.040 It's 50-50.
00:08:35.120 Tom, your thoughts on this.
00:08:36.460 So some of these indicators are interesting headlines.
00:08:40.800 And it's something that business media can put out.
00:08:42.940 And this was from Business Insider.
00:08:44.080 But there are several of these indicators that are very real.
00:08:47.300 And people that track the economy watch them.
00:08:49.500 I watch the cardboard box indicator because that is a clear indication of shipping.
00:08:54.740 And you can see more or less happening.
00:08:56.920 Also, which is very interesting, is when inflation and when times are tough, the snacks are down.
00:09:03.940 People aren't buying the bag.
00:09:05.820 I mean Halloween.
00:09:07.020 They're not buying the bag of, like, Snickers minis and those little treats and stuff.
00:09:10.440 Those stay out of the grocery cart because, you know, things are a little tough.
00:09:14.920 And I have never in my life, and I think everybody on this podcast, what people know, is that we're not partying and none of us have full liquor closets at home.
00:09:24.260 I don't ever remember buying little bottles to take them home.
00:09:28.560 That may be a whole different slice of life.
00:09:30.280 But I don't ever remember that.
00:09:32.240 You know, you see them on airplanes, on the cart, when people do.
00:09:34.560 But I don't know about that one.
00:09:36.700 But the snack index and the cardboard index, I would see that.
00:09:40.700 What's a little alarming to me is I really was bummed out to see, I hadn't heard about this before, the diaper rash indicator, that parents would actually leave the diaper on their kid a little bit longer because now if you've walked down the diaper aisle, it's expensive.
00:09:55.400 Diapers are not cheap.
00:09:57.220 They're very expensive.
00:09:58.720 And so, by the way, if you know people that have had kids, one of the greatest gifts you can give them is those newborn diapers.
00:10:06.320 Go to Costco, get a couple of those big, big, giant shrink wrap things because they're expensive.
00:10:11.680 But I didn't know about that one.
00:10:14.460 But I also had heard about the champagne index, that the high-end wines in champagne, that that is another, you know, very, very clear index.
00:10:23.560 I find the underwear index in Alan Greenspan funny.
00:10:26.200 Alan Greenspan, we're talking about interest rates.
00:10:28.580 What concerns you about the economy?
00:10:31.060 Well, you know, the underwear index has really got me bothered.
00:10:34.360 I just can't see Alan Greenspan talking about that.
00:10:36.300 Tom, you want to know why I love you and appreciate you?
00:10:38.420 Because your two leading indicators were the cardboard box indicator and the mini snacks.
00:10:47.040 And I'm looking at the mini alcohol bottles and the stripper index.
00:10:51.520 But we meet in the middle at the diaper rash indicator.
00:10:54.060 So that's amazing.
00:10:54.540 Exactly.
00:10:55.500 GBD, which of these nine do you focus on?
00:10:58.180 Oh, I couldn't even tell you.
00:10:59.920 I mean, the reality of it is yesterday we're at the event, event, event.
00:11:05.960 And it's the last 15 minutes.
00:11:08.260 And everybody starts asking different questions.
00:11:10.900 This one kid asks a question.
00:11:11.920 So, Patrick, let me ask you.
00:11:13.920 If you were me, what would you invest in right now?
00:11:17.140 Would it be gold?
00:11:18.660 Would it be commodities?
00:11:20.120 Would it be futures?
00:11:21.740 Would it be stocks?
00:11:23.300 Would it be this?
00:11:24.140 Would it be Ethereum?
00:11:24.980 Would it be?
00:11:25.300 He's asking me all these questions.
00:11:27.300 And I'm like, how old are you?
00:11:29.260 Guy's like 18, 19 years old.
00:11:31.500 I said, how much money did you make last year?
00:11:34.740 He, how long does he take?
00:11:35.760 He goes like this.
00:11:36.720 There's 4,000 people in the room, by the way.
00:11:38.160 And I'm no joke that he goes, 10.
00:11:41.220 That's like, 10 what?
00:11:42.100 He says, I made $10,000 last year.
00:11:44.580 Living at home.
00:11:45.300 And I'm not making fun.
00:11:46.260 No, no.
00:11:47.020 He's 19 years old.
00:11:48.200 Yeah.
00:11:48.740 So I said, you're making $10,000 and you're asking me where to put your money with futures
00:11:52.700 and, you know, all this stuff.
00:11:54.900 I said, brother, what you need to fix is you have an income problem.
00:11:58.420 You don't have an investment problem.
00:11:59.720 You have an income problem.
00:12:00.420 Let's go fix that income problem that you have.
00:12:02.560 And look, I get it.
00:12:03.760 I was in the Army.
00:12:04.360 I got out of the Army as an Army E-4 specialist.
00:12:07.120 I was making 20 grand a year.
00:12:09.180 It's not a lot of money when you're making, you know, you're trying to find a way to increase
00:12:12.140 your income.
00:12:12.900 For people that are watching this, this is what's going on right now.
00:12:17.020 You have to ask yourself if, in what way this is impacting your income, what you're doing
00:12:23.380 to protect yourself from this.
00:12:25.280 You know, some people are kind of going through and then they're feeling it and there's seasons
00:12:29.160 to it that you're going through.
00:12:30.360 So I've always been from the school of thought of having cash.
00:12:33.620 I think the biggest reaction from last night's event was when I told the story about having
00:12:39.860 cash in place for opportunities.
00:12:42.280 There's nothing more evergreen than always making sure you have an emergency fund, always
00:12:48.980 making sure you have money in place, always making sure you live below your means, always
00:12:53.920 make it.
00:12:54.400 It's such an evergreen, boring concept to talk about, but it applies to everyone.
00:12:59.940 The more you can do that, like I remember when I was running an insurance company and let's
00:13:03.080 just say we only had $100,000 in the bank, just the first year, we got all the way down
00:13:07.160 to $13,000.
00:13:08.340 The way I would look at $100,000 is I have 100 $1,000 decisions to make.
00:13:15.180 I have only 10 $10,000 decisions to make.
00:13:19.020 I have only four $25,000 decisions to make.
00:13:21.940 So I'm like, oh, this is kind of scary, right?
00:13:23.920 So if you got 10 grand in a bank and you're trying to do your thing with your husband,
00:13:28.240 your wife, your kids, your family, like, dude, I only have 10 $1,000 decisions to make.
00:13:33.060 I only have 50 $200 decisions.
00:13:35.920 That's not a lot.
00:13:37.480 So you got to make sure you do whatever you can to increase your savings.
00:13:40.180 And if it means living below your means and talking to the family about that trip that
00:13:44.020 you were going to spend $4,000 that you shouldn't, don't.
00:13:47.020 Save that money right now while you're going through it.
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