Valuetainment - November 09, 2026


Did the Left Push the LGBTQ Agenda Too Far？

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00:00:00.000 you're a gay man. Scott Besson is a gay man. Both of you very successful. You've moved up in your 1.00
00:00:05.340 life. You're net positive to society. You've done good work. But I think one of the issues,
00:00:10.300 and I want to know what you're going to be saying, because I asked the same question of
00:00:12.740 Governor Westmore. We become good friends. We talk. I really like, you know, where he's open
00:00:18.200 to it. We'll disagree on a lot of different topics, but he's very respectful about it.
00:00:22.120 One of the 80-20 issues that I think happened, I had, who was the former CEO of Disney?
00:00:27.640 Bob Chapek was just here six weeks ago, five weeks ago.
00:00:30.960 And I asked him the question.
00:00:32.360 I said, listen, why drive LGBTQ towards kids or even maybe not him, other people?
00:00:41.720 I asked this from Governor Westmore, puberty blockers and transgender, all that stuff with kids under the age of 18.
00:00:46.900 After 18, do whatever you want to do. 0.99
00:00:49.140 Why push that?
00:00:49.880 I think that's an 80-20 issue that pushed a lot of independents out and saying, guys, this is a little bit out of control.
00:00:56.800 right? What do you think? What's your position on that? I think the most important thing for kids
00:01:01.400 who are gay or transgender or whatever difference they might have from most people when it comes to
00:01:07.340 identity is that they're safe. That's the most important thing. And, you know, I've talked to
00:01:12.380 parents who describe the experience of having a kid who seems normal, healthy, doing well,
00:01:18.440 and they hit a certain stage in their development. They're teenagers usually,
00:01:21.820 and something changes and something feels like it's wrong and their student is increasingly
00:01:30.060 having trouble with mental health they are not themselves they are depressed sometimes their
00:01:35.860 lives are in danger and it becomes clear that this has something to do with what's called gender
00:01:41.700 dysphoria this person figuring out that the gender they need to be is not the one that they are
00:01:47.300 assigned. And when they get treatment, everything changes. And I've talked to parents who talk about
00:01:55.280 their students who they would do anything to help, who were at risk of death from suicide and mental
00:02:02.600 health problems. When they get the right kind of support, what happens next is they are back to
00:02:07.820 focusing on their friends, focusing on their studies, and they're thriving again. I think any
00:02:13.720 parent would want that for their children so you're for those are two different things let me
00:02:16.960 isolate it because i want to really understand what what you're saying here one is if a child
00:02:22.420 you know if a kid is a gay or lesbian and they've already come out and they've told their parents
00:02:27.500 and this is what i am and we have friends that have done this happens i had a very very very
00:02:33.060 conservative guy that's my neighbor whose son was a piano player of course i won't give this name
00:02:38.120 but if he watches this he'll know who i'm talking about at 14 years this guy's a diehard trump
00:02:42.800 supporter by the way major money donor he comes out and his 14 year old son comes in and says
00:02:47.660 dad i'm gay and you know when i told him on his birthday he says pat i'm devastated crying
00:02:55.100 he says so what did you do he says exactly what i'm supposed to do i supported him and i was his
00:03:00.540 father and he moved on whatever you want to do something we're going to help you out throughout
00:03:03.320 the process great relationship everything ended up being good of course that part is welcoming
00:03:08.080 i'm not talking about that i want to isolate this with you and i want you to i want to see
00:03:12.320 what you're going to say. I'm specifically talking about the constant pushing of allowing
00:03:18.520 puberty blockers under the age of 18 and certain material that's accessible to them to teach kids
00:03:25.580 at a young age. Do you think that's a good decision? So you just use two extremely different
00:03:30.520 words as if they were the same. You can isolate both of them. Okay. You use two different words.
00:03:33.640 Do me a favor and isolate each one of them. Pushing and allowing. Pushing and allowing,
00:03:38.940 which you just used like it was the same thing,
00:03:41.180 are completely different.
00:03:42.280 Pushing and allowing.
00:03:43.240 You just said pushing and allowing.
00:03:44.760 Then let me restate the word.
00:03:46.060 Let me clarify myself,
00:03:47.560 and I want to see what you're going to say about that. 0.85
00:03:49.400 Let's use puberty blockers.
00:03:51.200 Do you think puberty blockers should be available
00:03:53.180 to kids under the age of 18?
00:03:54.580 I think if the medical community says
00:03:56.300 that's important for their health,
00:03:57.840 then as a politician, I'm not going to disagree.
00:04:00.080 I think that's going to hurt you guys.
00:04:01.960 Well, maybe it will. 1.00
00:04:02.900 Look, I haven't studied transgender issues
00:04:04.780 as closely as you have.
00:04:05.800 I can already tell.
00:04:06.840 But what I will say is,
00:04:08.740 Sometimes, especially when it comes to something that many believe saves the lives of children.
00:04:14.860 If you have to take a somewhat politically awkward position to help those young people, you have to.
00:04:19.960 How much have you studied?
00:04:21.000 How many of them transitioned and then one came back and their lives was completely devastated as adults?
00:04:27.580 Have you ever met with one?
00:04:28.600 Okay, I've clearly not studied this issue as much as you have.
00:04:31.120 But what I'm saying to you is, as a parent, that is a true issue that bothers a lot of parents when it's being pushed to them.
00:04:38.940 But see, now you said pushed.
00:04:40.260 But it is, though.
00:04:40.860 I'm talking about, look.
00:04:42.060 It is, though.
00:04:42.680 I want to make sure.
00:04:43.420 Certain states don't even allow puberty blockers.
00:04:45.880 Certain states are like, we're not even going to allow that to happen.
00:04:48.360 Because if somebody wants to do it after the, do you think it's a good idea for a 13-year-old to have a driver's license?
00:04:53.680 No.
00:04:54.160 Do you think it's a good idea for a 13-year-old to have a gun?
00:04:56.200 No.
00:04:57.180 But what makes you think it's okay for a 13-year-old to have a puberty blocker?
00:05:00.000 I have no idea whether it is.
00:05:01.440 I'm just saying that I would trust.
00:05:03.800 Yeah, but it's probably illegal because politicians made it illegal.
00:05:06.020 Let's listen to the medical community.
00:05:07.680 Legal.
00:05:07.860 Okay.
00:05:08.140 Legal in many states.
00:05:09.320 Okay.
00:05:09.820 Then let's listen to people who have a history of finding out what kinds of treatment helped
00:05:16.000 these students thrive instead of them being in extreme danger.
00:05:20.520 And look, I just don't think it's the job of politicians to decide this stuff.
00:05:24.340 I think when families are concerned about the well-being of their students and they
00:05:28.960 engage mental health support or medical support yeah it is not my job as a politician to get in
00:05:33.500 the middle of that can i send you material for you to look sure yeah by all means you can still
00:05:37.100 disagree but i want to send it to you and i want to see what you say about that sure but i also
00:05:40.100 want to talk about the politics around this for sure because maybe you're right maybe this is an
00:05:44.020 issue where see the thing is democrats really care about making sure that vulnerable groups
00:05:49.340 are protected so and are discriminated so do independence so do libertarian and maybe the
00:05:53.660 Maybe the disconnect here is you think we take that too far sometimes.
00:05:58.680 I think it's overlapping the parent to get in front of my child rather than letting it happen when he becomes 18 or she becomes 18.
00:06:07.860 Right.
00:06:08.060 But if a parent thinks that their child who is younger than that, that their life is in danger, then I don't want some law to block that parent from working with medical professionals to take care of the student.
00:06:19.020 But again, I want to turn to the politics of this.
00:06:20.740 Because here's the question on my mind.
00:06:22.220 Doctors were using cocaine.
00:06:24.020 A hundred years ago, doctors were using cocaine thinking that was good for you.
00:06:27.460 And then they realized that was bad and they got rid of it.
00:06:29.600 But you know who's wrong even more than doctors?
00:06:32.260 Politicians.
00:06:33.260 So the idea that politicians getting in the middle, and this brings me to the political side of this.
00:06:37.360 I keep asking myself, this is an issue that affects a tiny, and by the way, extremely vulnerable minority of Americans.
00:06:43.620 If you ask most people, what are your top five issues?
00:06:46.060 This is a top seven issue.
00:06:47.380 But it is the top five in what Republicans spend money to put in the ads.
00:06:50.720 No, not.
00:06:51.220 I mean, it was the number, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure it was the number one ad buy of the 2024 election was the trans ad.
00:06:59.020 It could be because of what many schools were teaching.
00:07:01.340 Who's pushing this into, I think that this is, if a young person hears transgender this, transgender that,
00:07:06.920 they're way more likely to hear that from political ads than they are from something in their school.
00:07:10.800 All you guys had to do was leave it alone.
00:07:12.500 That's all you had to do.
00:07:13.600 We tried.
00:07:14.380 No, you didn't try.
00:07:15.220 We were not the ones spending unbelievable amounts of money to try to make it a top political issue.
00:07:21.220 issue that's why why would they so why americans disagreed with right so if americans disagree
00:07:26.300 in a big republicans on no they disagreed with democrat hold on transgender what i'm saying is
00:07:31.320 if americans disagree with the republicans on taxes which affects every american and disagree
00:07:37.660 with republicans on health care which affects every american and disagree with the republicans
00:07:42.780 on the minimum wage which affects every american and disagree with republicans on the war
00:07:47.820 which affects every American.
00:07:50.840 And meanwhile, Republicans want to make it
00:07:54.240 as though one of the top,
00:07:55.360 one of the most important things is this issue.
00:07:58.200 There was a bill on trans,
00:07:59.200 I forget what state on the sports thing
00:08:01.580 that affect one.
00:08:02.240 It's their kids.
00:08:03.660 It's their kids.
00:08:04.740 It's none of anybody's business
00:08:06.300 to try to manipulate kids
00:08:07.800 on what they need to do with their bodies. 0.99
00:08:08.900 Ask the parents of transgender kids
00:08:10.540 who they think is supporting their kids' well-being. 1.00
00:08:13.660 Of course it's going to be you
00:08:14.760 because they're probably 99% chance
00:08:17.860 They're liberals themselves.
00:08:19.000 No, that's not true.
00:08:19.660 Of course they're going to be on your side.
00:08:20.600 You've got to get away from this idea.
00:08:21.700 I'd love to know how many conservatives have transgender kids.
00:08:24.600 I'd love to know that number. 0.93
00:08:25.660 What if you do?
00:08:27.000 What percentage do you think it is?
00:08:28.400 You know, most does. 0.99
00:08:29.300 You think he got it because he wanted his kid to be a transgender? 0.87
00:08:32.620 What do you mean got it? 0.68
00:08:33.960 What do you mean got it?
00:08:35.000 This is not like a disease.
00:08:36.640 You think if he raised a kid himself, that would have happened?
00:08:40.740 Maybe. 0.66
00:08:41.080 That's my point.
00:08:41.600 You think if other politics got involved because they made Elon to be an evil guy that pinned everybody.
00:08:47.460 against them you think you don't think that's a reason i guarantee you that me being gay
00:08:52.140 had absolutely nothing to do with with my parents and i believe that when gay i now i also believe
00:08:59.580 that when somebody did you come out by the way what is it you come out later in life i was in
00:09:02.960 my 20s yeah okay 30s yeah yeah 33 years old i read when you came because it took that long just
00:09:07.680 what no problem right but what i'm saying is there's a lot of not a lot there's a small but
00:09:14.760 real number of young people who experience this gender dysphoria such a small percent you're right
00:09:20.060 man and yet we've already spent a huge percentage of this podcast talking about why because the 1.00
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