Valuetainment - May 28, 2025


"Diddy Thought He Was Untouchable" - James O'Keefe DIGS Into Diddy's DARK Blackmail Empire


Episode Stats

Length

14 minutes

Words per Minute

179.49323

Word Count

2,536

Sentence Count

236

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, Pat McAfee joins Jemele to discuss the Epstein scandal, the Prince Andrew scandal, and the Diddy scandal. Pat and Jemele also discuss why they think Diddy should have been involved in the scandal.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Any other items right now that is going on where for you politically with what's going on with White House right now or politically for you?
00:00:07.640 You're a little bit confused with. Well, tell me what you mean by that.
00:00:12.860 The White House. Some of the decisions. You know, there's a lot of good.
00:00:15.280 There's a lot of victories right now. You're seeing a lot of victories.
00:00:18.100 You're seeing a big, big, beautiful bill. You're seeing, you know, Russia, Putin, Trump talking.
00:00:23.380 You're seeing China. You're seeing tariffs. Before we move on from from the Epstein thing real quick, we could go to this.
00:00:28.460 This is present day. This is the John Daly clip with Prince Andrew, the guy on undercover camera.
00:00:36.020 Didn't you cover this on your show? Yeah, we did. Oh, you did. Oh, you guys covered this.
00:00:39.660 Yeah, we did. This is the basically saying he was that he didn't like the fact that Prince Andrew, the brother of the late.
00:00:47.940 I mean, of not the late of the king was having sex with underage girls and he didn't like it.
00:00:53.340 And this is this is someone who's quite. You know, loyal and a confidant to Prince Andrew, I got a lot of heat for this, too, because people say this doesn't this doesn't prove anything.
00:01:03.140 And I think one of the challenges here is that you're confirming suspicions.
00:01:07.400 You're getting them on video, admitting it. He's having sex with underage girls.
00:01:12.260 And then this guy goes on Piers Morgan. I don't know if you're I just think it's hilarious.
00:01:16.820 I don't know if your producer could find that clip. But and then he says, I think O'Keefe's great.
00:01:22.100 This girl that he said, man, she was beautiful. No shame.
00:01:25.900 What did you think about what you said? I I regret saying it.
00:01:29.960 I regret being he admits he admits that he was giving you credit for the girl and credit to Piers Morgan for grilling him.
00:01:39.580 Big time. Grilling him. I was actually shocked that that it's going to be hard to find this clip.
00:01:45.260 But Piers Morgan was just grilling him. So that's that's I've been I've been I've been honest to Pat.
00:01:52.180 I've been so heads down in my reporting. I mean, heads down on this Epstein reporting.
00:01:59.460 I have not, you know, I have not followed everything that's going on right now in the world.
00:02:04.860 So let me ask you make the second request. So my first request was Fauci.
00:02:08.260 My second request is Diddy. Have you at all thought about doing anything with Diddy or you guys haven't focused on that one?
00:02:17.600 I think these are great ideas. No, no, I think I think there's there's I am and I should and I will.
00:02:22.900 And I did get some sources with Diddy a year or two ago. But I think your idea.
00:02:27.240 Let me ask you a better question. What is the thing that needs to be exposed?
00:02:32.060 What if exposed would change things? That's helpful to me.
00:02:37.880 Yeah. I mean, if you think about. OK, so if you want to be part of something legendary, I'm talking legendary.
00:02:46.480 Is in the 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, J. Edgar Hoover, all these guys, when the FBI first started with him,
00:02:54.000 there is no such thing as, you know, Italian, the crime family that doesn't exist. Right.
00:03:00.160 Organized crime family doesn't exist. All right. Now they know he had they had intel on him with the cross-dressing stuff.
00:03:05.880 But. In the 80s, Giuliani was able to bring down the mob with the help of the RICO law by this professor from Rutgers
00:03:15.260 that all of a sudden we saw a couple hundred mob bosses, underbosses, conciliary, handcuffed, walking out, getting arrested.
00:03:24.260 That was on freaking believable. Right. It was something that everybody around the world heard about the news.
00:03:34.320 OK. Them being perp walked. Of course. If you, James, if you want something that is revolutionary, a breakthrough, revolutionary breakthrough.
00:03:45.960 It's Diddy because he's alive. The people are alive.
00:03:51.400 I see. With Epstein, you know, Epstein is, is dead. Yeah.
00:03:55.420 But if you get something from Leon Black. Rob, is Leon Black still alive?
00:03:59.980 I believe so.
00:04:00.680 If you go get something from Leon Black, which I don't know if you pursued or not.
00:04:04.020 Yes. 73 years old.
00:04:05.080 OK. Leon Black is the one that apparently paid Epstein $150 million in consulting fees.
00:04:09.560 This man's still alive.
00:04:10.640 For tax purposes. Rob, can you type in tax purposes or tax Epstein? Just type tax Epstein.
00:04:18.720 So right there, Leon Black gave $170 million to Epstein for, click on it, Rob, so we can read the story.
00:04:27.820 So Leon Black, according to U.S. Senate Finance, he transfers $170 million to Epstein's accounts.
00:04:33.660 And when they asked him why you did that, he said he paid the accused sex trafficker for tax advice.
00:04:41.780 This is the most expensive tax advice anyone's ever given in the history of mankind.
00:04:47.200 Leon Black, the billionaire financier and former CEO of Apollo Global Management, transferred $170 million to the Epstein covers for the course of five years.
00:04:54.500 U.S. Senator Ron Wyden said in a letter that U.S. Justice and Treasury Department this week,
00:04:57.940 not $158 million as previously reported, an investigation commissioned by Apollo's board appeared to have missed $12 million in transfer,
00:05:05.200 which were discovered by investigators working with the U.S.
00:05:07.600 So Leon Black, some of these guys are around, OK?
00:05:11.060 Some of them are around on what Epstein did.
00:05:14.840 But with Diddy, you're talking about, Epstein, you're talking about Diddy, Hollywood, sports.
00:05:20.800 You're talking about, you know, these talent agencies, producers, countries.
00:05:29.200 I mean, Diddy's is, and it's going on right now.
00:05:34.260 So if you did something while the hearing is going on, it's like you finding out something while O.J. Simpson's thing's going on.
00:05:40.260 Right.
00:05:40.720 And you leak something during the entire investigation.
00:05:44.600 It's like you doing something and you drop it during Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.
00:05:48.600 You know, but Diddy to me is the comparable of an O.J. Simpson thing.
00:05:52.380 And what do you think the thing, if caught on video, that would change things?
00:05:57.100 I can't, I mean, I'd love to see people perp walk.
00:05:59.380 I don't have the power to arrest.
00:06:00.460 But what is the thing that needs to be on video in your mind?
00:06:03.800 Oh, it's very easy for me.
00:06:05.180 Tell me.
00:06:06.980 It's very easy.
00:06:07.800 It's gay sex with, you know, men that, you know, play straight.
00:06:15.840 I see.
00:06:16.580 And that is released.
00:06:17.920 In other words, these men have internal conflicts and they're blackmailed over this.
00:06:22.900 Oh, and I think those video footages, believe it or not, I believe exist in different people's
00:06:26.620 phones because I think these guys are so, Diddy thought he was so untouchable that no
00:06:33.500 one was ever going to lose and they would airdrop a video to each other.
00:06:37.820 Like iPhone, iOS, just in the photos.
00:06:39.340 I, I, I am willing to bet that in some kind of a folder, it's sitting there with these
00:06:43.640 footages, you know, that people save, that's got a specific code that the video is all
00:06:48.520 the way in and say, watch what I have with what we did here and here and there.
00:06:51.760 I think that too.
00:06:52.680 And also the, the, the, the so-called blackmail.
00:06:54.600 How do you, how do you think it, it, it, it actually works?
00:06:58.060 Like what is the conversation like in your mind, in your imagination?
00:07:03.160 I'm just curious you guys, because that helps me as an investigative understand what I'm trying
00:07:07.460 to, to catch.
00:07:08.760 How do I think Diddy's model works?
00:07:10.540 Correct.
00:07:11.800 What's your hypotheses?
00:07:13.900 I mean, it's, it's very simple.
00:07:15.760 You come to the house, you party, you have one of the girls that locks on to one of the
00:07:21.740 guys who's one of your workers.
00:07:23.960 They go upstairs.
00:07:26.200 There's 17 cameras in there.
00:07:28.280 He says, Hey man, can I get a room?
00:07:29.940 Yeah, bro.
00:07:30.220 Just go use my room.
00:07:31.780 Goes to the room, leaves.
00:07:35.160 She's 17.
00:07:36.040 She's 15.
00:07:37.460 Or there's a guy in there and I record it.
00:07:40.800 I have it.
00:07:42.140 And the next day I say, Hey, I just want to let you know, here's what I got.
00:07:47.540 It's very simple.
00:07:48.820 Moving forward.
00:07:50.120 Anything I ask from you, I need you to do.
00:07:52.500 That's the thing that needs to be on video.
00:07:54.500 Yeah.
00:07:54.780 What you just said.
00:07:56.100 Yeah.
00:07:57.020 That would change everything.
00:07:58.960 In my opinion.
00:07:59.980 I think that would be in text, not in video.
00:08:02.700 In a text message.
00:08:04.160 I think it would be in text messages.
00:08:05.540 But I think that video, well, he's dumb enough to say it.
00:08:11.960 He's dumb enough to say stuff like that.
00:08:13.560 He's capable of saying stuff like that.
00:08:15.060 Well, you might have hearsay.
00:08:16.140 In other words, and this is what happened with Prince Andrew, another guy close to him
00:08:20.060 said that this is what happened, which is still powerful.
00:08:23.980 Well, those guys are out there.
00:08:25.460 The gene deals, the security, those guys have come out.
00:08:27.760 They've done their part.
00:08:29.120 There's a lot of people that have said stuff like that, like Suge Knight talking about his
00:08:33.480 link to Clive Davis and all this other stuff.
00:08:36.280 That stuff is coming out.
00:08:38.140 But if you can get him tied to a few other people, I think this will be the biggest story
00:08:45.500 you'll break.
00:08:46.960 I am working on this, and I will work on this.
00:08:50.040 Okay.
00:08:50.480 Especially with some of the stuff that was dropped this week.
00:08:52.820 Some of the ecstasy pills.
00:08:54.220 With Obama's face on it.
00:08:55.340 Yeah.
00:08:55.680 Some very, very weird stuff going on here, James.
00:08:59.680 Oh, and there's a lot.
00:09:00.540 I mean, just with Obama and, yeah, Obama, because he was hung out with them a lot.
00:09:05.860 He was at the Rock the Vote thing at his house, hanging out, partying.
00:09:09.680 And then you have videos of, like, Christy Teejan with John Legend, and they ask Christy
00:09:14.620 Teejan, where's the craziest place you've had sex in public?
00:09:17.280 And she goes, there was that Obama thing, and John Legend's face looks like he saw a
00:09:22.640 ghost.
00:09:23.420 He looks like he saw a freaking ghost.
00:09:25.320 Did you see that, Matt?
00:09:26.040 Yeah, of course.
00:09:26.660 Okay.
00:09:26.960 Of course.
00:09:27.340 Robbie, I sent it to you in the Slack.
00:09:28.440 I just think, you know, the part with what world we're living in today, we're living
00:09:35.960 in a world today where we're not sure the U.S. government is going to drop these stories
00:09:43.780 because these are stories you can use to get intel.
00:09:47.820 I mean, this is, I commit to you that I will do this, and I usually do get the story.
00:09:54.100 Sometimes it takes me a little longer than I'd like, but this is also very dangerous,
00:09:57.320 wouldn't you admit, to do these stories?
00:09:59.000 Well, you subscribe to this lifestyle.
00:10:00.920 I certainly did.
00:10:01.760 I remember you said, about a year ago, you said, James O'Keefe has chosen a tough life.
00:10:06.860 And it was a very, I think it was a more profound statement than even you intended.
00:10:11.720 Not tough in the way that most people, usually they use the courts against me, legal, lawyers,
00:10:16.180 that's a whole other conversation.
00:10:17.760 But this is very dangerous, and the people that have come before me, like the, what's the
00:10:23.420 movie, To Kill a Messenger, with, about a reporter in California who reported on the CIA and the
00:10:31.680 drugs and the CIA, and they were given, and he committed suicide.
00:10:35.420 I think he shot himself in the head twice, by the way.
00:10:37.480 Yeah, this guy, it was based upon Gary Webb, To Kill a Messenger, and these are the reporters
00:10:45.660 that came before me.
00:10:47.500 Gary Webb managed to shoot himself in the head twice.
00:10:52.760 That's a really impressive thing to do.
00:10:54.800 Holy moly.
00:10:55.460 You'd think the gun would fall out of your hand the first time.
00:10:58.000 You would think.
00:10:58.820 Yeah, he did some stories on the CIA.
00:11:02.380 It was a great movie, and Gary Webb has a remarkable quote, an incredible quote that I would like
00:11:09.640 to read on the air in front of all of you, and it's from this book that was written called
00:11:15.340 To Kill a Messenger, and I'm going to paraphrase because I can't pull it up, but it's, Gary Webb
00:11:22.120 says, you know, I was winning, I'm going to paraphrase it, I was winning awards, I was getting
00:11:28.260 accolades, I was giving speeches, I won the Pulitzer Prize, and then I broke some stories,
00:11:35.160 he's talking about the one about the CIA, that made me realize how misplaced my bliss
00:11:40.420 had been.
00:11:41.880 I started messing with the wrong people, and I began to realize I misplaced my value and
00:11:51.880 what I actually value, and I'm butchering the quote, but it's a profound quote, and then
00:11:56.680 he committed suicide.
00:11:57.440 So my point to you is that this is very dangerous, man.
00:12:00.420 No, the job you've chosen, it's tough because if you, okay, here's the next part.
00:12:07.920 If you have a lot of friends in high places, James, you're not doing your job right.
00:12:14.480 That's correct, but you need, you know what everyone says in the conservative movement?
00:12:18.780 Do you know Cash?
00:12:20.180 Do you know Pam?
00:12:21.600 Do you know this guy?
00:12:22.380 It's all about rubbing elbows and people doing favors.
00:12:25.760 I don't do that for a living.
00:12:27.440 No, that's not the profile of this job.
00:12:32.640 No.
00:12:32.860 The profile of this job is exactly what you're doing, and it's not for everybody.
00:12:38.800 It's just not for everybody because you're not a popular, cool person.
00:12:42.100 For you to keep the T word for as long as possible, you can't have a lot of friends, and you know
00:12:49.920 what the T word is?
00:12:51.500 The trust.
00:12:52.300 Trust?
00:12:52.780 Yeah.
00:12:53.080 To keep trust, you can't have a lot of friends.
00:12:55.220 At high places.
00:12:57.520 At high places.
00:12:58.400 That's right.
00:12:59.520 It's a tough thing as a journalist to navigate the relationship between what I call autonomy
00:13:05.620 and access.
00:13:06.560 There's a tension in journalism because on one hand, you have to protect your sources, and
00:13:11.160 on the other hand, you have to investigate, and it's very difficult.
00:13:15.060 That's a very, it's an art form.
00:13:17.160 Yeah.
00:13:17.480 It's an ethical line.
00:13:19.040 At what point do I, I'm going to burn this, in business, you call it burning bridges.
00:13:24.520 In journalism, you burn bridges every day.
00:13:27.500 You report on powerful people.
00:13:29.000 So it's very tough.
00:13:30.000 Well, Jake Tapper.
00:13:30.840 Look at what happened with Jake Tapper, right?
00:13:32.260 Like, with all the stuff that he's going through right now.
00:13:35.000 Okay.
00:13:35.220 Why is he losing respect from other journalists?
00:13:37.460 Because we all knew what he's now reporting.
00:13:39.520 Yeah.
00:13:39.540 Like, he's acting like it's news.
00:13:41.160 He's acting like it's news.
00:13:42.440 Hello, everyone.
00:13:43.080 I'm James O'Keefe.
00:13:44.400 Been doing this journalism thing for about 20 years.
00:13:47.140 Truth, justice, exposing corruption, everything that comes along with it.
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