Valuetainment - June 04, 2025


＂DOGE Was A DISASTER!＂ – Musk's DOGE Departure Sparks Drug Rumors FIRESTORM


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In this episode, we discuss the departure of Elon Musk from the Department of Geopreneurs and the impact it has had on the economy. We also discuss Trump's comments about Musk and his role in the Doge program.

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00:00:00.160 Elon Musk and Trump, okay, you know, they said he's going to work for four months, 110 days, whatever the number was, it's done, he's moving on, no longer there.
00:00:08.540 You're saying Doge was a massive failure, your words, you know, they said $2 trillion, then they lowered it to $2 trillion, but it's at $170 billion in only four months.
00:00:17.320 Isn't that a success?
00:00:18.240 Some people would say, Brandon, you know, four months to be able to save that much money, and maybe there was a following up because the two, you know, he would have wanted to do it in a certain way, but he doesn't have the control because Trump's doing it.
00:00:27.780 He would have gone to – nobody knows.
00:00:29.220 There's a lot of different things that's going on.
00:00:30.500 I've been calling this that there's going to be a lifespan of how long this is going to work out since day one.
00:00:35.280 I said this in October of last year, that this is going to be tough for the two to work together.
00:00:39.820 Rob, can you start off with the first clip of the big, beautiful bill and then go to one by one by one?
00:00:47.100 Yeah, this is the one.
00:00:47.720 Go ahead and play this clip.
00:00:48.460 Watch this, folks.
00:00:50.680 You know, I was, like, disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly.
00:00:57.780 Which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it, and undermines the work that the Doge team is doing.
00:01:03.600 I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
00:01:06.420 I mean, like, everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year.
00:01:11.560 I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful.
00:01:15.920 But I don't know if it can be both.
00:01:18.220 My personal opinion.
00:01:19.300 Okay, so this happens.
00:01:21.200 Then there's some comments that Trump made about him.
00:01:24.120 Rob, I don't know if you have that one.
00:01:25.800 I do.
00:01:26.620 On, if you have it, just go to it.
00:01:28.180 Is this the one?
00:01:28.980 Is this from the Oval Office at the departure ceremony?
00:01:31.620 This is where President Trump gives Elon Musk a key to the White House and talks about all of the trials and tribulations he went through heading up Doge.
00:01:39.660 Yeah, I think there's another one.
00:01:41.300 The BS one?
00:01:42.040 The BS one.
00:01:43.020 Yeah, I think there's another one where Trump questioned extent of Musk's Doge cuts.
00:01:48.980 So that's a report.
00:01:50.040 There's no actual video clip for that.
00:01:51.920 Okay, let me just read that.
00:01:52.860 By the way, and this is from Forbes magazine, which has become a leftist, China, I don't even want to get into it. 0.54
00:01:58.920 Forbes is not the Forbes of what it was 10 years ago, not what it was five years ago.
00:02:02.540 It's a whole different company today, but I'll read this to you and then let's go into that.
00:02:05.160 So Trump questioned Elon Musk's Doge cuts, expressed skepticism about the savings claimed by billionaire advisor Elon Musk's Department of Doge,
00:02:15.380 reportedly asking, was it all bullshit?
00:02:17.320 According to unnamed administration officials cited by Wall Street Journal, questioned Musk's promise to cut a trillion dollars of waste and fraud reduction,
00:02:23.660 which Musk reiterated during a Friday Oval Office press conference with Trump Doge claimed it had saved an estimated $175 billion through workforce reductions,
00:02:32.420 grant cancellations, contract cancellations, and more, equating to $1,086 per taxpayer,
00:02:38.000 but faced scrutiny for inaccuracies such as claiming $8 billion in savings from an immigration contract valued at $8 million,
00:02:43.000 with a BBC analysis finding only about half of the itemized savings published by Doge were linked to receipts or other forms of evidence,
00:02:51.700 some listed as unavailable for legal reasons.
00:02:53.620 So that's Wall Street Journal and Forbes.
00:02:55.100 I mean, you can say there's no credibility there, but I'm reading that story.
00:02:58.520 This leads to the key, the ending, the conversation, and the question about maybe some of the personal activities that he's having.
00:03:08.060 Go ahead, Rob.
00:03:10.100 Elon gave an incredible service.
00:03:12.100 Nobody liked him.
00:03:13.080 And he had to go through the slings and the arrows, which is a shame because he's an incredible patriot.
00:03:21.440 The good news is that 90% of the country knows that, and they appreciate it, and they really appreciate what he did.
00:03:28.300 And I gave him a little special something we have here.
00:03:30.960 Thank you.
00:03:31.360 A very special that I give to very special people.
00:03:35.740 I have given it to some, but it goes to very special people,
00:03:39.840 and I thought I'd give it to Elon as a presentation from our country.
00:03:45.140 Thank you.
00:03:45.500 Thank you, Elon.
00:03:46.500 Thank you.
00:03:46.780 Take care of yourself.
00:03:47.660 Thank you.
00:03:48.000 Thank you.
00:03:48.580 Thank you so much, Rob.
00:03:53.180 Rob, so this leads to the black eye.
00:03:55.180 There's a video showing the way Elon is moving.
00:03:58.240 I think that's the one, the behavior.
00:03:59.660 A lot of people questioning things.
00:04:00.780 Go for it.
00:04:02.200 In case we win, we can't lose that case.
00:04:04.700 Because we have the right to make grants.
00:04:06.120 We're not going to make any grants like that.
00:04:08.460 But I don't think Harvard's been acting very nicely.
00:04:12.480 I think Columbia wants to get to the bottom of the problem.
00:04:14.960 They've acted very well.
00:04:16.260 And there are other institutions, too.
00:04:18.020 That's the Doge father right there.
00:04:20.180 A big shot.
00:04:21.400 Dreaming of space.
00:04:22.240 All that happens is every three days we find another hundred.
00:04:26.940 You think about that behavior.
00:04:28.240 Did you hear what he said about the black eye?
00:04:29.960 You hear what he said?
00:04:30.580 He got it.
00:04:30.920 Yeah, the sun.
00:04:31.540 He says, yeah, you know, I was just wrestling with my son,
00:04:34.140 and I said, yeah, you should punch him in the eyes.
00:04:36.160 He just stuck me in the face.
00:04:38.260 You ever have your – I know Tico likes to throw some punches.
00:04:41.200 You ever have him punch you in the face?
00:04:42.600 Well, I mean –
00:04:43.120 Highly doubtful.
00:04:43.780 I mean, X, we were there, was at a UFC fight until 3 o'clock in the morning,
00:04:47.420 awake watching.
00:04:47.980 Okay, but you think that you get a black eye from a four-year-old
00:04:50.400 punching him in the face?
00:04:50.620 He might have punched him in the face.
00:04:51.440 Listen, again, we don't know the true story, but from looking at that behavior,
00:04:55.680 I mean, it could be two things.
00:04:56.980 He just got fired, and he's listening to the boss keep talking.
00:04:59.300 How much credibility do you give to the fact that he's been running around
00:05:02.780 with this quote-unquote daily medication box
00:05:05.220 filled with ketamine, ecstasy, mushrooms?
00:05:09.040 Distraction.
00:05:09.580 I mean, there's something really scary here.
00:05:10.840 You don't think that there's any credibility with that?
00:05:12.100 I don't care about it because of how scary what I actually think happened here.
00:05:15.860 I think that this is predatory because I think the Doge thing was a show
00:05:19.040 because all he did was cut contracts, cut a few jobs, didn't touch defense,
00:05:22.780 didn't touch Medicare, didn't touch Social Security.
00:05:25.020 But what he did do is extract all of the data from the Treasury,
00:05:27.660 from all the government departments, and then makes a deal with Palance.
00:05:31.780 How do you know that he did that?
00:05:33.080 Which part?
00:05:33.840 They extracted all the information.
00:05:35.560 Because they got the data to go through all of them.
00:05:37.600 How do you know that, though?
00:05:38.500 I mean, I researched and asked ChatGBT, and it said, like, yeah,
00:05:41.300 they collected vast amounts of data, and I asked Grock.
00:05:43.580 I don't know.
00:05:44.280 So you think he took the data from the citizens of the United States
00:05:49.440 to use in his own benefit long term?
00:05:51.680 Well, the most important thing for when you're building an AI is to get good data,
00:05:55.740 and the biggest, most vast amount of data is what he had access to.
00:05:59.780 So that's a pretty well-established thing is that he was able to acquire all that data.
00:06:03.100 It's still really unconceivable, like, how much he actually got.
00:06:06.740 But it seems that he plugged that into XAI and then, you know, merged XAI with X
00:06:11.500 and then partnered with Palantir, which, you know, Palantir is, like,
00:06:14.760 we'll talk about that later.
00:06:15.580 But that's, like, a straight-up, like, CIA contractor that harvests our data
00:06:19.740 and is probably, like, the biggest data center in the world.
00:06:21.820 So that's scary for a whole bunch of reasons.
00:06:24.640 But it seemed like the degree to which he had no interest in even touching the things
00:06:28.820 that are truly wasteful makes me think that this whole thing was about the data
00:06:31.960 from the first place.
00:06:33.040 I think there's a different – I understand what you're saying.
00:06:36.100 I think –
00:06:36.640 Is it ridiculous?
00:06:37.320 I think Elon Musk got his little fix with working on the government,
00:06:42.260 looked behind the curtain, said, uh-uh, I want none of this.
00:06:45.060 Do you understand that in December of 2024, before the inauguration,
00:06:49.900 Elon Musk was the richest man in the world.
00:06:51.520 His net worth was $486 billion, almost a half a trillion dollars.
00:06:55.900 Three months later, he lost $150 billion.
00:07:01.500 He was worth $330 billion.
00:07:04.520 Now the stock has just come back up.
00:07:06.840 I think there's a part of an element of his team around him that's like,
00:07:10.280 bro, you're losing a billion dollars a day.
00:07:13.500 That's not the scorecard he looks at.
00:07:15.060 You don't think that he looks at his net worth and gives a shit that he lost $150 billion?
00:07:18.640 Can you pull up the Peter Doocy questioning of him?
00:07:21.820 Hey, there's stories about the drugs and all this other stuff,
00:07:24.440 and his response about New York Times and, you know, Paula, you know, Winner.
00:07:28.680 Is this the one, Rob?
00:07:29.280 Yep.
00:07:29.580 Go for it.
00:07:30.000 Watch this.
00:07:30.520 I didn't mention that you had to deal with all the slings and arrows during your time at Doge.
00:07:34.140 There's this New York Times.
00:07:34.820 Some of the people, you know, some of the media propositions in this room were the slingers. 1.00
00:07:39.220 Well, so, there is a New York Times report today that accuses you of blurring the line between.
00:07:45.440 Is the New York Times, is that the same publication that got a Pulitzer Prize for false reporting on the Russiagate?
00:07:55.320 Is it the same organization?
00:07:56.440 Yes, it is.
00:07:56.920 I got to check my Pulitzer counter.
00:07:58.440 I think it is.
00:07:59.900 It is.
00:08:00.600 But, Phil, I think the judge just ruled against New York Times for their lies about the Russiagate hoax,
00:08:07.280 and that they might have to give back that Pulitzer Prize.
00:08:10.160 That, New York Times, let's move on.
00:08:13.180 Okay.
00:08:13.640 That behavior, do you think he's using it?
00:08:16.240 Do you think he's on stuff?
00:08:17.340 I don't know.
00:08:17.920 Ketamine?
00:08:18.320 Yeah.
00:08:18.820 Yeah.
00:08:19.080 But guess what?
00:08:19.740 Do you give a shit?
00:08:20.440 No.
00:08:20.940 I don't give a shit.
00:08:21.560 No.
00:08:21.940 I care much more about what he might have.
00:08:23.280 I don't.
00:08:23.700 That's your business.
00:08:24.560 It's like Glenn Greenwald.
00:08:26.460 He's doing what in his personal life?
00:08:27.980 If you want to release a video because you want to use that as a way for him,
00:08:30.640 I don't care what you're doing in your personal life.
00:08:32.920 But, you know, if you have access to information and you are using stuff,
00:08:38.480 and that information is given to you while you're on things, that is a problem.
00:08:42.180 Yeah.
00:08:42.520 Yeah, because, Adam, you said he just came in.
00:08:44.780 He has a little sting.
00:08:45.540 No, no.
00:08:46.140 If he's one of the most, I mean, he's the richest guy that we know.
00:08:51.160 What do you think his motive was for putting all that money to the Trump administration to win?
00:08:55.780 So Trump wins.
00:08:56.500 He's the number one backer.
00:08:58.180 Okay, yeah, he helped with Doge and everything, but there's other – I don't think Elon is getting – got worked or used because Brandon is making good points.
00:09:07.000 He's getting what he's getting out of this situation as well.
00:09:09.360 Every week there's another rocket being launched.
00:09:11.440 They're doing low-orbit satellites.
00:09:13.640 Every week there's another rocket being launched.
00:09:15.640 He's setting up for something bigger for all the robots.
00:09:17.580 Are you happy he's no longer in the White House working with Trump?
00:09:20.800 I'm indifferent.
00:09:22.280 Well, here's the thing.
00:09:23.360 They ruined his whole – Tesla, I'm happy that the stock went up.
00:09:26.640 But look at all the crap that he's had to go through just to help – hold on.
00:09:29.800 Just to help Trump win because he said that humanity was on the line.
00:09:33.660 Are you glad he's out?
00:09:35.640 I'm indifferent.
00:09:36.420 It doesn't – me, it doesn't matter.
00:09:37.260 Are you glad he's out?
00:09:38.040 No, I'm devastated that Doge was – seemed like a fake operation.
00:09:42.420 I was very excited about what it said it was going to be and what it was talking about doing.
00:09:46.220 What does Vivek look like now?
00:09:47.620 I was just going to talk about Vivek.
00:09:48.820 I'm running for governor of Ohio.
00:09:50.280 Oh, you mean in terms of if he was right or wrong?
00:09:51.900 What does Vivek look like now?
00:09:52.500 I think the biggest issue –
00:09:54.300 Let me ask my question.
00:09:55.140 No, I was really going to talk about Vivek.
00:09:56.540 Okay, I'll come to you.
00:09:57.300 What does Vivek look like now, now that this is taking place 100 days after Trump's administration with Doge?
00:10:03.080 I never understood that Elon Musk would be the person running Doge.
00:10:05.680 You're already running Tesla, SpaceX, and a dozen other companies.
00:10:09.860 You have Vivek, who's a rising star in the Republican Party, coming out.
00:10:13.340 He was the first person talking about government efficiency.
00:10:15.820 And all of a sudden, Elon shows up, throws what?
00:10:18.880 A quarter billion dollars behind Trump, and then he becomes dark MAGA, and then ousts Vivek from basically the thing that Vivek almost started?
00:10:27.800 It never made sense to me.
00:10:29.520 It never made sense to me that he basically just pushed Vivek out.
00:10:32.640 It became the issue about the H-1B visa.
00:10:35.900 Remember that whole drama that they had?
00:10:37.620 Yeah.
00:10:37.940 I thought Vivek would be the guy running this.
00:10:41.240 I never thought for a million years that Elon would be the guy that would stay through this entire situation while running multiple companies, while basically trying to occupy Mars.
00:10:52.180 What was he doing, Adam?
00:10:53.100 He hired a bunch of young nerds to run the show.
00:10:56.260 It's not like he was punching in a clock.
00:10:58.060 He had a little office, but it wasn't like he was –
00:10:59.860 Buddy, he was in the Oval Office every single day.
00:11:01.800 Okay, Rob, watch this.
00:11:02.580 He's chilling in Washington.
00:11:03.340 Play this clip.
00:11:04.000 Play this clip.
00:11:04.020 Play this clip.
00:11:04.560 All right.
00:11:04.900 Was there any drug testing or any requests for him to drug test when he was in the White House, given the fact that he was also a contractor with the government?
00:11:11.220 Fortunately for you and all the friends at CNN, you'll have the opportunity to ask Elon all the questions you want today, yourself.
00:11:19.500 In the meantime, the drugs I'm concerned about are the drugs that are coming across the border from the criminal cartels that are killing hundreds of thousands of Americans.
00:11:27.440 And we're going to save hundreds of thousands of lives if these district courts would just get the hell out of the way. 0.99
00:11:31.680 Pause it right there.
00:11:32.320 So anyways, look, we'll see.
00:11:34.060 A part of me is glad he's not in the White House.
00:11:38.720 A part of me is glad he's not in the White House.
00:11:40.280 And I don't think the president would have won without him.
00:11:44.120 I think he needed him.
00:11:45.740 I think he was a phenomenal flag carrier.
00:11:48.020 I think he looks tired.
00:11:51.380 Even he, who is the closest thing that we have to a robot as a human being, he looks unhappy and wants to get back to fulfilling his vision, whatever that vision for him is, to knowing that he can never be the president of the United States.
00:12:07.340 He's going to go and build his own vision and to be in pursuit of.
00:12:10.640 But I love also how Trump handled the whole thing on the gentle, thank you for your contribution.
00:12:16.800 He did great work, 90% of America.
00:12:20.160 This whole transition was done in a very classy way.
00:12:23.080 And you better believe he's still going to be an advisor.
00:12:25.460 They're still going to be calling him.
00:12:26.860 And I still think it has a possibility of getting very, very, very nasty.
00:12:31.060 I hope it doesn't.
00:12:32.480 This was a very smooth transition.
00:12:34.260 I hope they stay here.
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