Valuetainment - July 28, 2022


Don’t Let A Great Resume Confuse You - It Could Destroy Your Business


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10 things to keep in mind before you hire an employee. 1. Read a book before your first interview. 2. Do a background check. 3. Call a reference. 4. Pay your bills. 5. Ask for references. 6. Pay attention to your references. 7. Check your credit score. 8. Ask the right questions. 9. Find out if the person you're hiring is a good fit for your company. 10. Check their references.

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00:00:00.160 What if I told you hiring and going on a first date have a lot in common?
00:00:02.960 Here's what I mean by it.
00:00:03.960 You ever gone on a date and you're like, she's beautiful, oh my God, he's so handsome.
00:00:08.060 This is it.
00:00:09.060 This is my girl.
00:00:10.060 I'm going to commit, right?
00:00:11.060 6, 12 months later you're telling your friends, I should have never dated this girl, never
00:00:14.440 dated this guy.
00:00:15.440 Why?
00:00:16.440 Because you were impressed by looks.
00:00:17.800 Hiring is the same. 0.63
00:00:18.960 Just because you see a ridiculous resume with great college, great whatever, whatever's
00:00:23.520 on the resume, doesn't mean this is the right person to hire for your company.
00:00:29.040 Today, I'm going to share with you 10 things to keep in mind before you hire employees
00:00:34.020 and I'm going to save you millions of dollars.
00:00:37.700 Okay, so stick around till the very end, I'm going to have a PDF for you and extra bonus
00:00:49.440 content.
00:00:50.440 And if you like this content, give it a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel.
00:00:53.040 Let me get right into it.
00:00:54.540 Number one, so before hiring anybody, let's just say you come to your first interview.
00:01:00.680 Here's what I do moving forward.
00:01:02.960 Number one, I give you an assignment.
00:01:05.120 This is what it sounds like.
00:01:06.120 Say you come to the first interview, you're like, hey John, how are you doing?
00:01:08.780 Great.
00:01:09.780 Tell me about yourself.
00:01:10.780 Background.
00:01:11.780 Why do you want this job?
00:01:12.780 Fantastic.
00:01:13.780 I am.
00:01:14.780 Fantastic.
00:01:15.780 At our company, we believe in reading books and improving.
00:01:19.720 I'm going to give you a book to read as an assignment before our second interview.
00:01:23.500 You should see the reaction every time I say this.
00:01:25.360 This is the reaction.
00:01:26.360 You want me to read a book?
00:01:27.940 I do, before your second interview.
00:01:30.660 Everybody says the same thing.
00:01:31.720 They go, oh, no one's ever asked me to do this before.
00:01:35.500 I totally understand it's not common with a lot of companies, but it's normal for us.
00:01:39.340 Are you open to the idea?
00:01:40.340 I am.
00:01:41.340 Here's the book, I want you to read it, I want you to write a one-page paper on it,
00:01:45.760 and within a week, how long do you think it'll take for you to finish it?
00:01:48.060 I think I need about a week.
00:01:49.060 Fantastic.
00:01:50.060 A week from now, we'll come back for your second interview.
00:01:52.660 Great.
00:01:53.660 Great.
00:01:54.660 Johnny, thank you for coming out.
00:01:55.660 We wish you nothing but the very best.
00:01:56.660 He leaves.
00:01:57.660 Now, here's what's going to happen.
00:01:58.960 Before he even told you that he's going to do the paper, he told himself already, there's
00:02:03.300 no way I'm going to read this book, he's just bullshitting you, right?
00:02:06.000 And he'll leave.
00:02:07.340 But the 20% chance that he did read his book and he comes back, that tells you he follows
00:02:12.940 direction, and that tells you he's getting deadlines done.
00:02:16.440 You just learned 80% of the things that frustrate a bad employee at a company right up front
00:02:22.480 in less than a week.
00:02:24.020 Then he or she comes back with the paper and they say, here's what I got from the book.
00:02:28.140 In the back of your mind, you're saying, he has no idea I'm about to hire this person.
00:02:32.220 Because they have the right characteristics of coming through.
00:02:35.560 I value that.
00:02:36.560 If you value that, start doing that a little bit forward with anybody you hire on W2 jobs.
00:02:41.320 Okay, number two.
00:02:42.320 Before you hire anybody, a lot of times people are like, well, I'm just going to do a background
00:02:45.400 check.
00:02:46.400 Right?
00:02:47.400 Here's what I'm going to do.
00:02:48.400 I'm going to do a background check to find out if they have any felonies, all this other
00:02:49.400 stuff.
00:02:50.400 No problem.
00:02:51.400 If the state you live in and the country you live in allows, do also a credit check.
00:02:55.860 Why would I do a credit check?
00:02:57.960 Credit check is fantastic because you'll learn where their credit score is, if they pay their
00:03:02.840 bills, if they don't pay their bills, and it's been consistent for a long time.
00:03:07.360 Not paying your bills for six months could be a challenge you're facing, but not paying
00:03:11.380 your bills for 6, 12, 24, 36, 48 months is a habit.
00:03:15.920 You're probably also not going to pay your bills to your department, which means coming through
00:03:19.080 on whatever assignment's going to be given to you.
00:03:20.860 So rather than just doing a background check, start also doing a credit check.
00:03:25.240 It'll tell you a lot about the person you're about to hire.
00:03:27.860 So point number three is an obvious one.
00:03:29.360 You know this, but it's doing it, which is calling references.
00:03:31.540 And when you call a reference, what questions to ask?
00:03:33.360 Because here's how reference goes.
00:03:34.360 You have to know that people are only going to give you numbers of people they worked for
00:03:39.160 that ended well.
00:03:41.560 I don't know if that makes sense.
00:03:42.560 They're not going to put a number of somebody that didn't end well.
00:03:44.960 So how do you do it?
00:03:45.800 Here's how you do it.
00:03:47.480 During the interview process, you ask them, so tell me the best experiences you had with
00:03:51.860 your two favorite bosses you worked with, such and such.
00:03:54.480 Great.
00:03:55.480 What was unique about him?
00:03:56.480 It was great working with this guy, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:03:58.480 Awesome.
00:03:59.480 Great.
00:04:00.480 You write the names down, first name of the bosses.
00:04:02.480 Then you say, tell me the boss you worked with that you least liked working with him or
00:04:07.480 her.
00:04:08.480 God, that was Bobby.
00:04:09.480 Oh, really?
00:04:10.480 Okay.
00:04:11.480 Perfect.
00:04:12.480 Tell me why not?
00:04:13.480 Well, here's Bobby's challenge, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:04:14.480 Okay.
00:04:15.480 Got it.
00:04:16.480 Fantastic.
00:04:17.480 Great.
00:04:18.480 Now, when it comes down to hiring, they're going to give you the three references.
00:04:19.480 And the three references are going to be there and you're going to ask, listen, do you remember
00:04:22.480 how you told me about Bobby?
00:04:23.480 Would you mind if I called Bobby?
00:04:25.480 Something happens to the body language.
00:04:32.480 That body language is going to tell you.
00:04:34.480 If they're like, I would much rather have you not call Bobby, it's a 50-50 risk you're
00:04:40.480 taking.
00:04:41.480 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:42.480 In that moment, you have to say, well, no problem.
00:04:44.480 It's totally fine.
00:04:45.480 Or you have to say, well, this is a concern for me.
00:04:47.480 I can't call Bobby.
00:04:49.480 Then I'm not doing anything here.
00:04:51.480 So you yourself have to make a decision there.
00:04:54.480 But I want to talk to references of people that are going to tell me the good, the bad
00:04:57.480 and the ugly.
00:04:58.480 If I call the reference and the reference says, oh, we love this guy.
00:05:02.480 We love her.
00:05:03.480 It's amazing.
00:05:04.480 It's awesome.
00:05:05.480 You ask him, hey, Johnny, I know you love this person.
00:05:08.480 This is great.
00:05:09.480 If this person applied today to work for your company, would you hire him back?
00:05:13.480 Well, you know, that's a question you got to ask.
00:05:16.480 So remember, good questions reveal great information.
00:05:20.480 Don't get to it.
00:05:21.480 It's kind of like coming home, and you're dating a guy or a girl, and you're trying to
00:05:24.480 convince your parents why this is the one.
00:05:26.480 And you know you're avoiding those two questions to ask about him or her.
00:05:29.480 Those are the two questions you got to ask because marriage is a long time.
00:05:32.480 Hiring somebody to get things done is a long time.
00:05:34.480 And hiring the wrong person can completely set you back three, six, twelve months in your
00:05:38.480 company or that department.
00:05:40.480 Look, this point number four is an obvious one you got to do nowadays.
00:05:43.480 Some do it, some don't do it.
00:05:44.480 You got to look at their social media.
00:05:45.480 It's that simple.
00:05:46.480 You got to go and look at the social media.
00:05:47.480 I want to see how many beer bong pictures I'm going to see.
00:05:50.480 I want to see what kind of habits you got.
00:05:52.480 I want to see what pictures you take.
00:05:53.480 I want to see what things you're into.
00:05:55.480 I want to see what you like, you know, the culture, how you...
00:05:59.480 I just want to see.
00:06:00.480 You have to do that nowadays because when you hire somebody, that image of that person
00:06:04.480 that works for you is also the image that they're living.
00:06:07.480 Now, if you're a very creative place, you're like, awesome, this person's outgoing.
00:06:11.480 It's great.
00:06:12.480 They got a personality.
00:06:13.480 They got things they do.
00:06:14.480 They're fun.
00:06:15.480 So, they're going to be great for BizDev, but it's a different kind of a job.
00:06:18.480 You may say, well, this is a little too risk.
00:06:19.480 We don't want to take.
00:06:20.480 So, don't be naive and don't go take a look at their social media.
00:06:23.480 Take the time to go look at their social media.
00:06:25.480 It's only going to take you five minutes to learn enough about them.
00:06:27.480 And if you don't learn anything from them on social media, it's actually probably a good thing.
00:06:31.480 So, prior to them coming to the interview, say you put a job posting out there, right?
00:06:34.480 And you're not using a recruiting firm.
00:06:35.480 We'll get to the recruiting firm here in a minute.
00:06:37.480 But say you're not using a recruiting firm, and they send an email, I'm interested, I'm
00:06:41.480 interested, I'm interested, I'm interested.
00:06:42.480 Have a 10 minute video that talks about your company.
00:06:45.480 Send the link of the video back to 55 people that applied for your company, and say, hi John,
00:06:51.480 thank you for your interest in this position.
00:06:54.480 I want you to watch this video and send me an email back on what you took away from the video.
00:06:58.480 And if our company is actually a culture that you would fit in, and that we would fit with
00:07:03.480 you as well.
00:07:04.480 Looking forward to hearing back from you.
00:07:06.480 That email goes out.
00:07:07.480 Out of the 55 people that responded to your email, again, everything with this is filtering.
00:07:11.480 I'm just giving you ideas on how to filter the wrong person to hire that doesn't fit your
00:07:16.480 company, right?
00:07:17.480 Out of the 55 emails you send back with the video, half of them are not even going to look
00:07:21.480 at the email.
00:07:22.480 They're going to be like, I'm not going to watch this video.
00:07:24.480 The other half are going to watch the video, but they're going to say, this is definitely not the
00:07:27.480 culture for me.
00:07:28.480 10 of the people that are going to watch the video are going to say, this could actually
00:07:31.480 be the culture for me.
00:07:32.480 They'll send the email.
00:07:33.480 Out of the 10 that send the email to you, five of them are going to say, I want to talk
00:07:36.480 to this guy.
00:07:37.480 So then you create a Zoom.
00:07:38.480 So you went from 55 to five.
00:07:40.480 Because you also don't want to waste your time interviewing people that are not a good
00:07:45.480 interview.
00:07:46.480 If you do 100 interviews for the year that were not good interviews times 30 minutes, how many
00:07:52.480 hours is that?
00:07:53.480 That's a lot of minutes.
00:07:54.480 If you waste 100 times 30, that's 3,000 minutes.
00:07:57.480 You can do other things and have your focus be elsewhere.
00:08:00.480 So give that email back, 10 minutes, create a nice video explaining who the company is,
00:08:05.480 preferably by the CEO, some of the employees, some of the customers, what the vision is,
00:08:09.480 what we've done, how we work, and let the employee that'll apply for the job give you
00:08:14.480 an idea if this is going to be a fit for them as well.
00:08:16.480 Another way to filter out employees that don't fit into your culture.
00:08:19.480 Okay, so next, if I hire somebody, depending on levels, they're going to be interviewed
00:08:24.480 by multiple people.
00:08:25.480 Everybody 100% is going to go through the filtering process, the references, the book,
00:08:29.480 the assignment.
00:08:30.480 It doesn't matter whether I'm hiring a CEO, or a C-suite, or a director, or a manager,
00:08:35.480 or just a basic employee.
00:08:37.480 But if I'm hiring a $15 an hour person, $20 an hour person, they get interviewed by minimum
00:08:44.480 two people.
00:08:45.480 One is the hiring manager, one is going to be that department manager, and maybe I'm going
00:08:50.480 to get somebody else to say, what do you think about this person?
00:08:52.480 Ask questions, maybe I don't think about X, Y, Z.
00:08:54.480 Great.
00:08:55.480 If it's a director or mid-level management, they're going to be interviewed around four people.
00:09:00.480 And then if it's a C-suite, all the C-suites are going to interview this person.
00:09:05.480 So we just recently hired a CTO.
00:09:07.480 The other six C-suites, they all interviewed the CTO.
00:09:11.480 And every one of the C-suites that interviewed the CTO sent me an email or a message to tell
00:09:16.480 me what they liked about him, what they saw as a big opportunity, and what they thought
00:09:21.480 that may be a concern, which there wasn't any with this one that we hired, right?
00:09:24.480 So it depends on what levels you hire.
00:09:26.480 Don't just go with one person hiring them.
00:09:28.480 Have somebody else look at them as well to see if it's going to be a fit or not.
00:09:31.480 You will learn more from multiple eyeballs by people who understand the company's culture,
00:09:37.480 who are able to reason, who have long-term vision with the company.
00:09:40.480 You got to also ask the right person to interview them outside of yourself.
00:09:43.480 So sometimes before you give somebody a job offer, W-2 salary bonus, everything, sometimes
00:09:48.480 it makes sense to hire them as a consultant 1099 and give them a project to see how they do
00:09:54.480 for 90 days before you make that actual offer for them to be full-time.
00:09:58.480 So you'll say, listen, Johnny, I like you.
00:10:00.480 I want to bring you on board.
00:10:01.480 I don't know if I want to make a W-2 offer.
00:10:03.480 Would you be open to a three-month contract consultant as a 1099 to see if you can get these
00:10:09.480 two different projects done?
00:10:10.480 Then based on that, we'll make a full-time offer to you.
00:10:12.480 The person is going to say yes or no.
00:10:14.480 Great.
00:10:15.480 If they say yes, you don't have any risk.
00:10:16.480 Your only risk is three times $7,000 is $21,000 and you can leave anytime soon.
00:10:22.480 And the upside is what?
00:10:23.480 You learn three months later, if this person gets hired, you hire them to make an offer.
00:10:27.480 And if it's not, you wish them the best and you move on.
00:10:29.480 But at least you don't put that risk of HR on the W-2 side by simply offering them a 1099
00:10:36.480 position for 90 days.
00:10:38.480 So before you go out there and hire somebody, you want to make sure this position is filtered
00:10:41.480 out by many of your different leaders in the following way.
00:10:44.480 One, do we really need to hire a full-time employee?
00:10:47.480 Could this be a consultant?
00:10:48.480 Could this be 1099?
00:10:49.480 Could this be outsourced?
00:10:51.480 Do we have to get them full-time?
00:10:53.480 Could this be a part-time position?
00:10:55.480 You have to ask all of the, what job do we want them to do?
00:10:58.480 Can they work from XYZ?
00:10:59.480 Do they have to be?
00:11:00.480 I mean, all of these things that you get before you say, yep, this is somebody we need
00:11:04.480 full-time.
00:11:05.480 And this is a job that we're going to need for at least 18 to 24 months.
00:11:08.480 Then you go make that offer.
00:11:09.940 Because if you just go in and no one's questioning that this may be just an employee need for six
00:11:14.480 months or 12 months or 24 months, you may be wasting your time as well as your resources.
00:11:18.480 So asking the question of exactly who are we hiring?
00:11:22.480 Why are we hiring him?
00:11:23.480 How much is this task going to be needed?
00:11:25.480 Is this a permanent position?
00:11:26.480 Is this a 10 position?
00:11:27.480 And is W to the best way to go about hiring this individual?
00:11:32.480 So number nine is more on you, not on the employee.
00:11:35.480 And here's what it is.
00:11:36.480 Sometimes you as the entrepreneur, you have to go and take inventory of your benefits package
00:11:40.480 you have as an organization, your 401k, your health benefits.
00:11:44.480 Are the health benefits set up that only benefits a single young person?
00:11:47.480 What if somebody that's married with kids and you're thinking about having a baby?
00:11:51.480 Does it benefit a family, a wife, a husband and kids?
00:11:54.480 Does your benefit of 401k in the way you match?
00:11:57.480 Is it competitive in the marketplace?
00:11:59.480 How do you work in regards to vacation days per year?
00:12:03.480 Bonuses, bonus structure, moving up in the company, advancement in the company.
00:12:07.480 Does the company have a big vision?
00:12:09.480 Does the company have a clear vision of how me, as somebody that's coming up, you could
00:12:12.480 climb up and win in the company.
00:12:14.480 All of those things, you've got to take inventory of yourself.
00:12:17.480 And the way you do this is bring somebody in from the outside, consultant, to break down
00:12:21.480 your benefits package and say, you know what?
00:12:23.480 You're not as good as these guys are.
00:12:24.480 You're not good in this area.
00:12:25.480 You're strong in this area.
00:12:26.480 You may want to completely improve your benefits package before you go out there trying to
00:12:32.480 look for the best employees because generally the best employees are going to want to have
00:12:35.480 good packages because they have a lot of different opportunities out there.
00:12:39.480 Now this next one is the outlier.
00:12:40.480 It's going to break every rule I just talked to you about and it's okay because sometimes
00:12:43.480 you have to know you're taking a risk with this person.
00:12:45.480 Here's what it is.
00:12:46.480 You just don't want to do this too often.
00:12:47.480 You may have somebody that comes in and let's say they do the book, their resume, nothing
00:12:53.480 seems crazy, but you have a hunch you feel good about this guy or this girl.
00:12:58.480 The risk is not a big risk.
00:12:59.480 You have a little bit of a risk, but you just believe this person can do a lot with
00:13:03.480 the company long term.
00:13:04.480 If you're willing to take this risk and you know it, you know you're taking a risk, sometimes
00:13:09.480 it makes sense to take a risk because years ago somebody had to take a risk on me and
00:13:14.480 there was no reason for you to say this guy's going to go out there and do something big.
00:13:17.480 I didn't have a four year degree, not a two year degree, 1.8 GPA in high school.
00:13:21.480 I just got out of the military.
00:13:23.480 I was a bodybuilder, but Dave Kirby took a shot with me and said, hey, I know you don't
00:13:28.480 have a degree, but I'm willing to hire you at Morgan Stanley Dean Widow at the age of
00:13:31.480 21 without a degree.
00:13:32.480 And the girl I was going up against for a job, a girl named Sol, UC Berkeley, 15, 16
00:13:37.480 her SATs, she ran a club in Berkeley while she was going to school and got a four year program
00:13:43.480 and two and a half years, and we were competing for a job.
00:13:47.480 Dave was supposed to only give a job to one of us, gave it to both of us.
00:13:50.480 Twenty some years later, I'm still in the financial industry.
00:13:53.480 If it wasn't for Dave Kirby, I probably would be back in the military today.
00:13:56.480 So sometimes you got to take that risk, but it has to be a risk based on soft skills, great
00:14:02.480 attitude, attractive attitude, charming, charismatic, positive.
00:14:06.480 Take the risk on the right areas, not the hard, but the attitude sucks, but the soft skills,
00:14:12.480 you know, take the risk in soft skills, not in hard skills.
00:14:16.480 Long term, it's going to help you out.
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