Valuetainment - “Dumped Bin Laden In The Ocean” - SEAL Team Six's Robert O’Neill QUESTIONS Osama's Burial At Sea

00:00:00.000 So Cole could have been SEAL Team 6.

00:00:02.320 I think here it says SEAL Team 10.

00:00:04.240 But, you know, so he's CEO.

00:00:05.900 We're sitting there talking, and I ask them a question.

00:00:08.100 That's my challenge with it.

00:00:09.560 And you're the main guy that can push back on this, so please do so.

00:00:13.260 So for me, I sit there, and here's how I think about it.

00:00:16.160 We hear about the kidney failure Osama was having back in 2002, right?

00:00:22.160 When they're saying these types of kidney failures,

00:00:24.320 you're lucky if you live 6 to 12 months.

00:00:26.840 Best case scenario, five years.

00:00:28.360 The guy lives nine more years.

00:00:29.600 Okay.

00:00:30.000 So there's one camp that says the guy was already dead.

00:00:33.440 Then you have the second camp that says, well, you know,

00:00:35.820 where he was stationed at in Pakistan was 0.8 miles away from the west point of Pakistan,

00:00:43.600 which they call a cackle or a K-A-K-U-L.

00:00:47.220 Phenomenal name.

00:00:47.820 It's like a military training camp base that they have there.

00:00:50.880 And so that's 0.8 miles.

00:00:51.920 So Pakistan always knew where he was, and that was their way of keeping him in control, 1.00

00:00:57.360 and that was intentional.

00:00:58.480 If anybody wanted to take him out, they had him under control, and that's the Pakistan. 1.00

00:01:02.160 Okay.

00:01:02.360 Third one is when you sit there and think about it and say, all right, we took him out,

00:01:07.680 and then we decide to dump him in the middle of the ocean.

00:01:10.380 If we decide to dump him in the middle of the ocean, the history of America, that's never happened.

00:01:13.960 The only place that's ever happened to is in the movie Optimus where Megatron is dropped in the middle of the ocean.

00:01:20.180 And I think that movie was, like, right around the time where that movie, where the whole scene happens.

00:01:27.180 Then, while you're talking about all this stuff, which is really the craziest thing, is after Osama bin Laden dies,

00:01:35.440 you know, when that event takes place, within 18 months, Zero Dark Thirty comes out.

00:01:41.780 Yeah.

00:01:41.840 18 and a half months, Zero Dark Thirty comes out.

00:01:44.100 So I go in there, and I look into Zero Dark Thirty of all the movies that they've done, the producers.

00:01:50.100 It's Anna Pornup Production Company, and out of all the movies, they've done Hurt Locker.

00:01:55.340 They've done Foxcatcher, The Wrestler Story.

00:01:59.580 They've done Her. 0.94

00:02:01.540 They've done so many big movies that you can go, American Hustle.

00:02:05.220 There's Joy.

00:02:06.500 They've done so many great movies.

00:02:07.940 They've also done The Sausage Party, which I don't know if you know what that is.

00:02:10.600 If you do, you have a certain sense of humor.

00:02:11.820 I think that's the only one of those I've seen.

00:02:13.520 Vice is also one.

00:02:14.500 You may have seen Vice as well with Dick Cheney.

00:02:16.240 Do you know, out of all the movies they've ever done, out of all the movies they've ever done,

00:02:20.260 I researched to see what was the fastest movie they ever made.

00:02:23.260 The fastest movie they've ever made in 18 months was Zero Dark Thirty.

00:02:26.800 So Osama bin Laden dies May of 2001, if I'm not mistaken. 0.66

00:02:32.020 May of 2011.

00:02:34.020 May of 2011.

00:02:35.820 May 2nd, 2011, if I'm not mistaken.

00:02:38.960 Then the movie comes out December of next year, 2012.

00:02:43.420 So you're talking 19 months-ish, year and a half.

00:02:46.060 They've never made a movie faster than that.

00:02:47.880 So I sit there and I say, what did they know?

00:02:50.820 And then there's just too many things for a regular guy like me to question and say,

00:02:54.960 did we really kill this guy if we did?

00:02:56.620 Why would we dump his body in the middle of the ocean?

00:02:58.500 I don't know.

00:02:58.880 So what do you say to that?

00:02:59.800 I disagreed with that off the bat because they did tell us even before we went on the mission

00:03:04.400 that was the plan.

00:03:05.440 And again, going back to leaders not really understanding how stuff works,

00:03:09.720 they said they don't want a shrine for Osama bin Laden for people to go worship,

00:03:13.660 not understanding that hardcore Sunni Muslims are not going to go worship a shrine 0.68

00:03:16.820 because you worship a lot.

00:03:19.220 That's it.

00:03:19.620 This way, don't draw pictures of Osama bin Laden.

00:03:20.820 And I've read that as well.

00:03:21.960 So I agree with you.

00:03:22.940 So I disagree.

00:03:26.180 I didn't dump him in.

00:03:27.360 I didn't see him get dumped in.

00:03:28.540 I get asked now.

00:03:29.200 People will say, how do we know his body's not at the agency in that of Betadine?

00:03:32.700 I don't know that.

00:03:33.760 When we brought his body to Jalalabad, Afghanistan,

00:03:36.820 we showed Admiral McRaven, who was in charge of Joint Special Operations Command,

00:03:39.980 and the CIA team, especially the woman that Zero Dark Thirty was about,

00:03:43.420 showed them the body there.

00:03:44.980 We had a quick debrief around the body discussing exactly what happened.

00:03:48.440 Then we brought his body up to Bagram Airfield,

00:03:50.400 where the three-letter agencies did their stuff,

00:03:52.000 and then we handed him over to the Army.

00:03:54.100 And they were Green Berets, maybe Delta. 0.67

00:03:56.400 They took his body.

00:03:58.000 That's the last I saw him.

00:03:59.120 I've been told, like everyone else, they dumped his body in the ocean.

00:04:01.340 He wasn't there.

00:04:01.800 So I can't confirm it.

00:04:03.420 But that's what happened there.

00:04:04.600 But with, let's see, oh, as far as the kidney dialysis stuff, I think—

00:04:11.940 O2.

00:04:12.040 O2 was when the CIA started reporting.

00:04:14.740 He's got kidney issues.

00:04:15.620 He's got maybe five to ten months left.

00:04:17.000 That's counterintelligence.

00:04:18.120 Right.

00:04:18.440 Because sources get paid, and they're smart enough to know,

00:04:23.740 to tell people enough just to get paid.

00:04:26.080 And I don't want to give too much up because this is my source of income.

00:04:28.180 I come in, I tell them stuff that get paid, tell them more stuff.

00:04:30.600 If someone comes in and says, yeah, this has definitely been law,

00:04:32.740 and I saw the dialysis, the targeter would know, no, you didn't,

00:04:35.480 because he didn't have one.

00:04:36.560 So his kidneys were fine.

00:04:39.360 Okay.

00:04:39.900 So the kidneys are fine, and this is a report that came from who?

00:04:43.300 What's this one?

00:04:43.940 The Guardian.

00:04:44.360 The Guardian.

00:04:45.280 The President of Pakistan, General Pervez Musharraf, said yesterday he thinks

00:04:49.580 Osama Bin Laden had probably died from an untreated kidney disease.

00:04:52.880 I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a patient, kidney patient.

00:04:57.420 General, continue to tell CNN, contradicting U.S.

00:04:59.700 intelligence officials that say they do not know if Bin Laden has suffered

00:05:03.100 from kidney problems.

00:05:03.860 He said he knew the Al-Qaeda leader had taken two dialysis machines into

00:05:08.480 Afghanistan, one was specifically for his own personal use.

00:05:12.380 I don't know if he has been getting all the treatment in Afghanistan.

00:05:15.200 So you're saying this isn't true?

00:05:16.960 Yeah.

00:05:17.300 I'm saying it's counterintelligence.

00:05:18.420 And then again, as we've seen, especially recently, a lot of media outlets

00:05:21.220 are just an extension of intel agencies.

00:05:24.140 So, and again, I like to just speak from what I've seen.

00:05:28.560 Like, I wasn't on the moon, so I can't say they landed there.

00:05:31.200 I was in Bin Laden's bedroom. 0.90

00:05:32.440 There was no dialysis.

00:05:33.440 And he seemed fine.

00:05:34.160 He was walking when I met him.

00:05:35.520 And there, you know, there was nothing in there to indicate that at all.

00:05:38.860 Then you start getting into Pakistan.

00:05:40.560 They have every reason to, because that's the center of the universe in that part of

00:05:45.440 the universe.

00:05:45.920 They have every reason to not necessarily piss off Al-Qaeda too much.

00:05:49.680 So being close to the academy, yeah, I mean, the ISI knew he was there.

00:05:54.260 Parts of it did.

00:05:55.400 Parts of the intel.

00:05:56.080 Not all of the military, I doubt it.

00:05:57.340 But even when we were presented with it, there was a couple of options to get Bin Laden. 0.93

00:06:01.600 And we had the team they picked in a room when they were naming the options.

00:06:06.060 And one of them was a multilateral mission with the Pakistanis.

00:06:09.540 And we're like, yeah, try that.

00:06:10.940 And he'll be gone before we even get in the helicopters.

00:06:14.820 So Pakistan knows he's there. 0.63

00:06:16.140 And again, too, when people ask about the response, we're that close to their West

00:06:21.240 Point, you got to figure up in New York, if we were invaded near West Point, it wouldn't

00:06:24.940 be the cadets showing up.

00:06:26.040 It would be the local police.

00:06:27.720 So the cadets aren't showing up.

00:06:28.780 It doesn't, I mean, yeah, they know he's there, but there's not going to be an assault

00:06:30.880 force.

00:06:31.300 I had a bigger concern going into Abbottabad, Pakistan, wasn't dealing with the Pakistan 1.00

00:06:36.720 army.

00:06:37.120 I didn't want to kill a Pakistani policeman because we're in his country, not at war.

00:06:40.380 He doesn't know why we're there.

00:06:41.240 He's doing his job.

00:06:42.320 And I want to be very sensitive.

00:06:43.660 I'm not going to go blast some policemen in Pakistan.

00:06:46.140 Um, so, uh, uh, so many different moving parts.

00:06:50.320 A lot of them I have theories on some of them I've seen, which is what I believe, but the

00:06:53.560 rest is sort of just hearsay.

00:06:55.520 Got it.

00:06:56.080 So the Pakistan, now was Pakistan working with you guys as a team?

00:07:00.260 Did they want them to be taken out or no?

00:07:02.120 I don't know.

00:07:02.760 Um, I know one of their colonels was living across like the, like a couple hundred meters

00:07:07.180 away.

00:07:08.240 And I, I mean, they could have told us, I don't even know how the intel worked, but he was

00:07:12.620 definitely there.

00:07:13.360 And to the point, I think the Pakistani intel service was working with him so tight.

00:07:18.180 That's why even like Khalid bin Laden was confused on the stairs.

00:07:20.780 They heard something in the front yard.

00:07:22.100 They're not quite sure who's here.

00:07:23.200 Is it the Pakistan military coming in to move us?

00:07:26.300 Maybe, maybe not.

00:07:27.520 Are our tactics that good that we're so quiet?

00:07:30.400 That's also true because we were that good.

00:07:32.720 But I mean, Khalid bin Laden got killed on the stairs because the guy in front of me confused

00:07:36.460 him, just whispered to him, you know?

00:07:38.100 So they're not necessarily like the, in the guest house guys got shot at and then there

00:07:42.780 were other shots.

00:07:43.300 But like even going up the stairs, Khalid was armed, but he wasn't shooting down the stairs.

00:07:46.260 Like a lot of guys have, places where I've been in urban combat, fighting up in a house

00:07:51.100 is very dangerous.

00:07:52.240 And he was kind of waiting, not shooting.

00:07:54.040 And there was confusion.

00:07:55.420 So what they knew, what the Pakistanis knew. 0.58

00:07:58.500 And then, I mean, just the way that Pakistan was pissed off and embarrassed kind of tells 1.00

00:08:03.100 you they knew what was happening.

00:08:04.300 And if, I mean, who knows, maybe the Taliban would have given us bin Laden, even though 0.88

00:08:08.520 they said they wouldn't, and then Pakistan might have. 0.96

00:08:10.320 But there's a lot of stuff going on.

00:08:11.640 I mean, everything from saving face to the military industrial complex.

00:08:15.180 You know, whose pockets aren't getting lined if we kill them in Tora Bora in 2002, as

00:08:20.280 opposed to fighting a 20-year war.

00:08:22.380 You know, there's a lot there that, you know, I'm at a point now, since after COVID and the

00:08:27.060 lockdown, it's like, you know, get multiple sources before I believe anything.

00:08:31.440 Hey, what is up?

00:08:32.340 This is Robert J. O'Neill, former SEAL Team 6 operators.

00:08:35.740 I was fortunate to be on some of the most high-profile missions in our very long war on terror.

00:08:40.400 But I am now on Menecht, and you can connect with me there.

00:08:44.560 And we can literally talk about anything.

00:08:46.680 You can text.

00:08:47.880 We can do video calls.

00:08:48.980 I can give you messages.

00:08:50.440 And, you know, go to Menecht, find me.

00:08:52.760 Literally nothing is off-limits.

00:08:54.300 Any crazy questions you have that you may or may not want the answers to, I am more than

00:08:58.260 happy to do it.

00:08:58.820 So find me on Menecht.

00:08:59.780 Again, this is Robert J. O'Neill.

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Valuetainment - September 11, 2025

“Dumped Bin Laden In The Ocean” - SEAL Team Six's Robert O’Neill QUESTIONS Osama's Burial At Sea

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