Valuetainment - April 25, 2025


＂Elon Is Batman＂ - Andrew Callaghan Reveals DARK Side Of Anti-Musk Protests

Topics
paid protesters
Hosted by
Patrick Bet-David
Mentioned
Joker Sam Harris George Soros George Floyd Troublemakers Bernie Albie Hamas
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Length

8 minutes

Words per minute

204.71

Word count

1,784

Sentence count

158

Harmful content

Toxicity

4

sentences flagged

Hate speech

2

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Summary

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In this episode, we talk about the Tesla boycott, the MAGA hats, and the fact that Elon Musk is a paid agitator. We also talk about paid protesters and the role they play in the anti-Tesla movement.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 The Tesla rally.
00:00:01.380 Yeah.
00:00:01.980 What was that like?
00:00:03.040 Going to the Tesla, protesting the rally.
00:00:05.460 What was that like?
00:00:06.900 I actually sent correspondence there.
00:00:08.680 I sent my friend Albie here to the Tesla boycott in Palo Alto.
00:00:12.240 I was in Jamaica for like an anniversary trip at the time when this was going down.
00:00:16.020 Then I sent another friend of mine to the one in Burbank.
00:00:18.720 But yeah, it was kind of interesting like with the Tesla boycott movement.
00:00:21.680 I see it as a broader offshoot of the anti-Elon stop the coup movement.
00:00:25.740 But then at some point after that began, they started targeting Tesla factories directly.
00:00:30.660 And their idea was that if they lower Tesla stock price, that will in turn take away from Elon's economic power, which would disempower Trump in some capacity.
00:00:39.800 Right.
00:00:40.200 And again, this goes back to the Joker to me, because in the movie Joker, Elon would be Batman and Joker would be the guys that are going after him.
00:00:49.440 Right.
00:00:49.840 It's funny.
00:00:50.380 We're in D.C.
00:00:52.060 Is it January 20th?
00:00:54.900 Is it inauguration, Rob?
00:00:56.100 Yes.
00:00:56.760 So we go to this party.
00:00:57.720 Oh, CPAC.
00:00:58.420 It was actually CPAC.
00:00:59.420 Was it CPAC or inauguration?
00:01:01.000 No, because CPAC, because we went after CPAC.
00:01:03.300 We had the invite.
00:01:04.140 Okay.
00:01:04.360 So we're in D.C.
00:01:06.180 And there's this doge party.
00:01:08.040 And a guy invites us to go to this doge party.
00:01:10.120 And apparently Elon's going to be showing up.
00:01:11.420 So we go to this party.
00:01:12.460 I take my 13-year-old son.
00:01:14.200 They're upstairs watching.
00:01:15.760 If you pull up one of the clips, Rob, of someone else who reported, it was reported all over the place.
00:01:21.600 There's a couple of them.
00:01:22.480 So we're there.
00:01:23.080 We're walking.
00:01:23.660 Pause it.
00:01:23.900 Pause it, Rob, so we can hear it.
00:01:25.620 So we're walking.
00:01:26.500 We get outside.
00:01:27.380 There's a protesting across the street.
00:01:29.800 I decide to walk up to these guys to just talk to them with my 13-year-old son.
00:01:33.780 Pretty bad call, I think.
00:01:34.700 Pretty bad call.
00:01:35.720 I don't think you're wrong.
00:01:38.240 Well, watch this.
00:01:39.220 This is my curiosity here.
00:01:41.220 Go ahead and play the clip.
00:01:42.100 Go ahead, Rob.
00:01:42.380 This is the wrong clip, Rob.
00:01:57.360 Because the one is, you got to show the clip.
00:02:00.120 So that one I can show you guys, but we can't show because it's copyrighted content.
00:02:05.320 Just so you know.
00:02:05.960 Yes.
00:02:06.260 Didn't we record it or no?
00:02:08.800 I can look for the best version is this one right here, but these are the.
00:02:12.680 We can't show this.
00:02:13.340 That's copy.
00:02:13.880 Well, why don't you show it so he can see it?
00:02:16.020 And the audience, you know, you guys can tweet this and see.
00:02:19.300 This is me talking to the guy just to kind of see where it's at.
00:02:22.000 The guy in the ball to the right is a federal agent.
00:02:24.800 Look what he does to him.
00:02:25.900 Look at the spit coming up.
00:02:27.760 Look at this.
00:02:29.300 Boom. 1.00
00:02:29.640 Oh, that was a real loogie, damn. 1.00
00:02:31.120 Yeah. 0.99
00:02:32.000 It gives me a real nostalgic flashback seeing somebody with a MAGA hat next to somebody with an N95 mask on.
00:02:37.620 Those are the two, those are the two real genders. 1.00
00:02:41.760 Here's a question for you.
00:02:43.400 Do you, when you're out there, wow, you've not been out there.
00:02:46.720 Maybe you're guys that came back.
00:02:48.480 There's always, you know, numbers that show up that some of these guys are paid agitators and paid protesters.
00:02:56.000 When you've been out there, whether it's the Luigi Mangione or any of the other stuff, do you ever ask them the question or did you guys get paid to do this?
00:03:03.520 Yeah, it's typically not true.
00:03:06.300 Typically not true?
00:03:07.160 Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a paid protester.
00:03:09.960 I mean, it's a narrative that gets pushed a lot, which makes sense because there is NGOs that organize protests, but they're making that decision to do the protest.
00:03:18.180 Like, okay, there are groups that receive funding who decide themselves to protest, and they use some of that funding to do stuff like, you know, make signs.
00:03:26.700 But they're still making the decision most of the time. 0.90
00:03:28.960 It's not like someone like George Soros is like, hey, go over there and have a sign that says Elon sucks.
00:03:35.420 It's them being genuinely upset and thinking, okay, cool, let's use some of this funding to do something.
00:03:41.140 On the other hand, I have actually seen, though, paid protest groups go into places that are more radical like Portland and Seattle and disrupt, you know, more direct action movements.
00:03:51.720 Like, for example, I remember in Portland, Oregon, during the crazy summer of 2020, there were organizations, I'm not going to say the name, that were basically paid by the city of Portland and the state itself to go into the protest groups and encourage nonviolence.
00:04:05.000 So all the protest groups that I've seen that are paid are mostly, like, peacemakers that are represented by the state.
00:04:10.060 I wouldn't say that.
00:04:11.120 I think the paid protester thing is, like, super overblown.
00:04:13.300 Have you asked them?
00:04:14.680 Yeah, for sure.
00:04:15.340 I just know a lot of them, you know what I mean?
00:04:17.200 So let me tell you what came up.
00:04:18.180 This came out with the AOC rally.
00:04:20.060 During the AOC rally, they were like, hey, we had 34,000 people there.
00:04:23.600 But GPS data analysis revealed that the number was closer to 20,000, still big but not record-breaking.
00:04:29.320 And it continues saying a whopping 84% of the devices had shown up at at least nine other protests, including Antifa, BLM events, pro-Hamas, pro-Palestine demonstrations, and Kamala Harris campaigns.
00:04:41.840 84% of them and over 30% of them had attended 20 or more.
00:04:47.400 That makes sense to me.
00:04:48.160 I feel like people who protest for, you know, for a living and go to rallies, it's kind of their lifestyle.
00:04:51.500 But watch the rest of it.
00:04:52.340 Data analysts say the crowd was anything but organic.
00:04:54.600 The majority were tied to activist networks like Disruption Project, Indivisible, Democratic Socialists of America, Rise and Resist, and Troublemakers, all reportedly funded by ActBlue and some receiving backing by VIA, USAID, optics over authenticity.
00:05:10.840 The playbook hasn't changed just the targets.
00:05:12.640 This is from Zero Hedge.
00:05:13.800 Yeah, I was at the Bernie Sanders AOC rally doing some interviews three days ago in Bakersfield, California.
00:05:19.080 And I just think there's a big difference between NGOs and political groups and parties that receive some level of funding and then decide to go to the events as opposed to, like, direct orders.
00:05:28.940 The people who are showing up, they may be receiving some level of funding, you know, in a nebulous way, but they believe what they're doing.
00:05:35.840 It's not as if when you say paid protester, it kind of suggests that they don't actually feel that way, that they're just showing up simply because they received orders from the person that's cutting them a check.
00:05:44.460 I think there's a mix, and it's easy to cast them – it's easy especially when you disagree with someone to think they can't actually think that.
00:05:50.180 They must be paid to show up.
00:05:51.700 But, you know, the Democratic Socialists of America, they are there with their clipboards asking people to donate and volunteer and sign up.
00:05:58.660 But, you know, I think there's some element to organization.
00:06:01.120 But a lot of people just – you know, the protest crowd is relatively small, and they show up to everything.
00:06:06.420 You think it's small?
00:06:07.160 Well, the same people that went to 2020 protests for George Floyd are the same people that were protesting Israel on college campuses are the same people who vote for AOC and Bernie.
00:06:15.520 It's kind of like a – it's a demographic.
00:06:17.760 You know, it's kind of like I'm willing to bet that a solid percentage of the people that showed up to a Trump rally here in Florida probably also have been to five or more Trump events in the past five years.
00:06:28.860 Yeah, but that's different because what it says is if somebody's been to 20 or more, you don't have a life to go to 20 or more.
00:06:35.420 It's impossible to go to 20 or more unless if you don't have a job.
00:06:39.680 And if 34% have been to 20 or more, so maybe not majority, let's say 50% is real.
00:06:45.380 Let's say 60% is real.
00:06:46.860 Let's say 70% is real.
00:06:48.620 But the 33% that's showing up who has been to 20 or more, you have to kind of speculate and say who's paying these guys to be over here.
00:06:57.500 Well, I think when you say real, 100% of them believe what they're saying.
00:07:00.980 The question is –
00:07:01.700 I don't know if we know that.
00:07:02.800 I mean, I've been to a bunch of rallies.
00:07:04.300 I can't think of a single rally where I've interviewed a protester where they're just straight up lying.
00:07:08.380 You think those guys that stepped up to us and they spat on us, do you think they fully believe in what they're talking about?
00:07:12.200 Oh, yeah, dude, for sure.
00:07:13.220 I think you don't spend enough time around like internet leftists, man.
00:07:15.940 They really think that.
00:07:16.960 Like those people are really –
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