Episode 171: Alex Jones “I’m Ready to Die” - Exclusive Interview After Being Banned
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1 hour and 55 minutes
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195.48097
Summary
Alex Jones is the most controversial political figure in the 21st century. He has been banned from over 100 social media platforms and has over 5Billion+ views on his YouTube channel. Why would a guy like Alex Jones, who speaks on conspiracy theories, being taken down by everyone, is it fair?
Transcript
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So look, there's been a lot of people on social media who have been banned from Twitter for
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Some even have had their YouTube channels taken down, but there's only been one person
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in the history of social media that's been banned from every single social media platform.
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Five billion plus views on his YouTube channel, and that's none other than Alex Jones, the
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Now, some of you guys may be asking the question on the same path.
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Why would you ever have Alex Jones on days after him being banned, interviewing him on
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I've had Gloria Allred, Jerry Springer, Perez Hilton, who's completely on one side politically,
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and I've had Dennis Prager, Ben Shapiro, and Mark Cuban, who may be on a complete opposite
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side politically, because I like to learn from people that have differing opinions.
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And the reason why I brought somebody like him on today is because it's important to realize,
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can some things you and I say today on social media get you banned?
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And why is it that a guy like Alex Jones, who speaks on conspiracy theories, being taken
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He gets pushed in this interview on a lot of different topics.
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This is something you want to hear from the beginning to the end.
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A lot of different personalities were covered on this topic, from Marco Rubio, to Ted Cruz,
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to LeBron James, to Barack Obama, to Hillary Clinton, to Elon Musk.
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There are so many different topics that we went through, and there's a part that he gets
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You just don't want to miss a minute of, if this is a topic that interests you, you want
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to listen to this from the beginning to the end.
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Tweet me, send me a message on Instagram, whatever it is.
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By the time you're done, listen to this interview.
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So if you follow the news, if you follow media, you're going to see this face, you're going
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to see this name, Alex Jones, who is recognized.
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I think it's pretty fair to say you are the most controversial political figure in America
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I'm the most banned person in the 21st century.
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There's no doubt that I'm the most demonized, most attacked person in the world today.
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Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, Instagram, every single one of these things.
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We just launched it a week before we got banned a month ago.
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It had over 2 million downloads, so they just banned it.
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So we're banned for being number one, and then they want us banned so they can then
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Your YouTube channel has roughly 1.5 billion views, give or take.
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Now, your website, you're doing what you're doing right now, but what are you doing right
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What are you thinking about all this stuff that's taking place with you in the last couple
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Look, I had a big audience, and I'm on a couple hundred radio stations still and 500
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TV stations, so we still reach a lot of people, but Hillary Clinton ran ads about a month before
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she lost in 2016, and she thought I was such a negative figure that they edited these tapes
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and they played these tapes out of context, demonizing me, and then connecting it to Trump.
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And then when she lost, the Democrats actually believed that I was Trump's brain.
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She ran $18 million of ads, the Federal Election Commission says, on TV and the web saying that
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And I have some connection to Trump, but like one-tenth of what they say.
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So they ran $18 million of ads on YouTube and Google and Facebook and TV saying, here's
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He tells Trump what to do, and they show a clip of Trump saying something similar and
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So they ran that, according to the Federal Election Commission, and then when she lost,
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I lost like $10 million the first month when Trump won.
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When he won, they went after my sponsors, everything, because they actually believed their own propaganda,
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which wasn't true, that I was like telling Trump what to do.
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And so once he won, they had run this ad thinking connecting me out of context with radical
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statements to the then candidate would demonize him.
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But then when it failed, they believed their own propaganda.
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And then almost two years later, it has been one hell of a ride.
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They literally believe their own BS that I am in charge of Trump and I'm giving him every
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I may have talked to Trump since he got elected 10 times.
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And it's usually, you know, hey, Alex, hope you're doing well.
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But the Democrats literally believe, because I'm low-hanging fruit, that if they get me,
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I don't want to get into that, but, you know, last few months.
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We need to bring everybody together, no matter what color they are, who they are.
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You know, one of the things I'm curious about where you're at right now, if you are so close
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to Trump, if you've spoken to him 10 times, ever since you've been banned, have you had
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I mean, I've had conversations with people high level in the campaign and in the White
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And I've just said, listen, they've demonized me as a straw man with $18 million during the
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Now, it's tens of thousands of articles a month everywhere lying about me, never showing
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what I supposedly said, just claiming I said something.
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And I said, this is clearly just like the Nazis did.
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You pick a group and then you demonize that minority group.
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And then once you set the pressure that people accept going after them, then it's everybody
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So I'm the first domino because I've studied history.
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I was smart enough to understand that I'm not this important.
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They picked me because I'm flamboyant and stuff out of context, demonized Trump.
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Now that he won, they have ramped it up that I'm this horrible person.
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And then now they are going to try to shut me down.
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And then once they shut me down over 100 plus platforms, Facebook, Twitter, Google, iTunes,
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And just like I predicted, as soon as I was shut down, it was a domino effect for everybody
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When you say domino effect, what do you mean by domino effect?
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Like you're talking Prager, you're talking other people are coming after you.
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Prager University banned, shadow banned, blocked.
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I mean, it's everybody has been shadow banned or blocked.
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My family will like put a pro-Trump tweet out or, hey, our economy is doing great.
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Millions of people are being blocked from the digital commons.
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And people say, oh, these are private companies.
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They are under federal law as a digital commons.
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They operate under the system and under the rubric that they are not publishers, that they
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are simply operating systems that allow debate.
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And so they have admitted that they're a digital public square.
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But what they're doing is selectively banning nationalists, conservatives, patriots, you
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name it, from that digital square 50-something days out from the election.
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Has anybody ever banned at the level that you've been banned ever in the history of America?
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I know Milo was banned off Twitter, but he was suspended for like a couple weeks.
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I know Tommy Lauren had an issue where a couple of our YouTube channels were shut down.
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PewDiePie had an issue when he made a comment about ISIS and they were uncomfortable with
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But has anybody ever banned at the level that you've been banned?
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PewDiePie, when it comes to reaching young people, has 21 billion views on YouTube.
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60-something million subscribers last time I checked.
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And they came to him a few years ago and said, play bull because you're popular or we're
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So they began to claim he was some political terrorist when he's done nothing.
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The late shows, all those combined aren't PewDiePie.
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But they came to him to muscle in and say, you better do what we want politically or we'll
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But no, no one has ever been banned in over, it's over 100 platforms now.
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We have software companies calling and saying, you can't even use our software.
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They are literally engaging and trying to put me in a digital gulag.
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And again, it's because I'm exposing that our government has sold out to multinationals.
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I'm exposing that the communist Chinese have taken control of Hollywood and have taken control
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of the universities and have allied themselves with radical Islam and all the rest of this.
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And they believe that if they can set the precedent to shut me down, then they can shut everybody
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Don't you think a part of those comments that you may get you in trouble sometimes where
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you say things like, listen, for myself, right, I'm politically in the middle.
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So I watch CNN and Fox anytime anything happens because I want to know what the, somebody's
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If one side is saying the other side is wrong and one of them is making up some kind of
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But every time I hear when CNN or Fox, whether it's Rachel Maddow or Hannity or Tucker or
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Anderson Cooper or Morning Joe, it doesn't matter.
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When somebody uses the word Nazi in America and they say Hitler and all this other stuff,
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I'm a guy that came from a family that's half communist, half imperialist, born and raised
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So when I see a comparison like that made by people that have only lived in America,
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So how much of this, Alex, do you think is itself inflicted by you versus by the media?
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A lot of people push, but they're still out there.
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Well, they call me a Nazi constantly, even though both my grandfather was almost out in
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I mean, I mean, any major names that call you Nazi?
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We've had like Tom Brokaw say, I'm an unalloyed racist.
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We would run up and scream, you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi.
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But specific, any major name, because you do that all the time.
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And by the way, I want to say this part to you that I think is just fair for everybody,
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And so when you and I spoke, I said, look, my attorneys are concerned.
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If I was Jeffrey Dahmer, who got interviewed by the news.
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Before he died last year, let's say that Charlie Manson, you're allowed to interview Charlie
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What is this new thing where they say, don't interview Alex Jones?
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Because they've built a straw man of things I haven't said.
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That only covered today because it got national attention.
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I walk out of the Senate hearing on internet censorship.
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And the news said that I called them all these names.
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The national news edited that with me saying you're a racist, but not showing the clip of
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You can have white racists, Hispanic racists, black racists, whatever.
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So that's what I'm saying is, is that they don't, they want to ban me so they can then
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misrepresent what I've said and what I've done.
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But your whole question going to, is it self-inflicted?
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They're after me because they can track back the reboot of 1776.
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They can track back how the economy's coming back and how the globalists suppress things
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by design to me, and I don't want to even want the credit, but they believe George Soros
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and the globalists believe that I'm the first domino and that we triggered this grassroots
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So they believe if they take me out, Trump can continue on or be defeated.
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How far down the rattle are we that you've got to even, like, ask, can I interview Alex
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So I interviewed entrepreneurs on, you know, I mean, the channel's mainly an entrepreneur
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I had Gloria Allred just to speak to her to see why she's wired.
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Jerry and I went out of talking about Hillary Clinton.
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So I brought you because there is partially a concern for content creators when somebody
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is being asked to, you know, don't say anything.
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This is going to some other countries that ran it that way that told people to not share
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Even a Bill Maher who doesn't agree with you, a lot of things that you say politically,
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Ted Cruz, who I think tweeted out, and Ted Cruz said, you know, here's a man who claimed
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He said, but, you know, does this give the right for these Facebook and everybody to shut
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There are people who agree and disagree with you who are defending you.
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The part I'm trying to ask from you is the following.
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Is there any part of this that is self-inflicted that is because I run a business, we have
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But I know a lot of it is me because I'm the head.
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Since when in America do we have to ask, can you interview somebody?
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Because the mainstream media projects what I've said and done.
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And because they've created that straw man, they don't want me to be able to respond.
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But let me tell you, if you go back six years ago when Sandy Hook first happened, and my
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listeners called in and didn't think it happened, and they showed anomalies.
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A very small part in my whole compendium, you know, the last 25 years, it's less than
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And so within a year or two, I said, no, I think Sandy Hook happened.
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The media, as soon as I said I thought it happened, because I'd questioned it before, went, oh,
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And then they just published thousands of articles a week saying Jones is harassing families.
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And I'm like, here's 50 videos saying I believe Sandy Hook happened.
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And here's the debates where I just had open discussions five years ago.
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Because it's like saying Saddam killed babies in incubators in 1990.
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So I've already said I'm sorry the media took it out of complex 10,000 times.
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And they're only like, oh, my God, he's weak on this.
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But it's the papers saying that that are saying that.
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I didn't lie about WMDs in Iraq that killed over a million Iraqis like the New York Times did.
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Not the families, but the lawyers and the Democratic Party.
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Because they're scared of what I'm generally saying, that there's a corporate world government taking control of nation states, like the Brexit and everything else.
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So they want to demonize that and say, you can't talk to this guy because he's so evil and he's so bad.
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I'm asking the question, was there anything that you take responsibility for?
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Obviously, that made a lot of families feel uncomfortable.
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The father, Neil, who talks about my son was six years old.
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He got shot in the head and he held him in his arm when he died.
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And a couple other parents that came out and said what they said.
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You know, like maybe this will make sense for what we're trying to do for me to understand you.
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Because when I look at somebody and I differ with their political opinions, I may not agree with Barack Obama.
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But I can see if Barack and I didn't speak politics and we had a drink and we spoke sports, I'm probably going to get along with Barack.
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If I talk to somebody like Bush and everybody was talking about, Will Ferrell was joking with him, all this other stuff.
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If I talk sports with Bush, I'm probably going to get along with this guy seems like a nice guy.
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There are sides of you that show sense of humor.
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There are sides of you that shows you have a brilliant million mile an hour brain that goes down.
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Sometimes in the world of sales, and maybe this will make sense on the question I'm trying to ask.
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Sometimes in the world of sales, when I work with the people in the world of sales, there are people who sell a product.
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And they'll come, let's just say the product is good enough for me to give the features and benefits.
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I have a house, four bedroom, three bathroom, corner, cul-de-sac, kids, safety, good private schools, etc., etc.
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And then I say, but this house, underneath it, there's a 63% chance that there's oil and you can be a billionaire.
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Do you ever think you go from just selling the idea, which already makes a lot of sense, you're making me think.
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Then from there you go into, let me sensationalize, and you get yourself in trouble doing that.
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Do you ever feel like you've done it where it's gotten you in trouble?
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Oh, I think there's no doubt that I've covered internet sensations.
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And then the media says that I created that sensation just because I cover the sensation.
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So, I can give a presentation, and God knows how many people I've sold over the years, and I know when I sensationalize sometimes.
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Have you yourself caught yourself saying, shit, to get maybe a sponsorship, maybe sell, maybe, you know, I know this thing's going to get 2 million views versus 220,000 views.
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Let me sensationalize because in the marketing aspect, you know propagandas work.
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I don't ever sit there and think about what's going to be successful.
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And I've questioned public events, and I've done things like that.
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And like I said, you've got mainstream media that lied about Iraq and lied about the Arab Spring and all this stuff.
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And they sit there like they're pure and good because my listeners question things like Sandy Hook.
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You understand, like, in the spectrum of 24 years on air, like, the media tries to make me Sandy Hook.
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That's like one-tenth of one percent of one point.
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Well, let me give you the credit on one thing that you do deserve credit.
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It's not like you're 100 percent alt-right Republican, no matter what, you know, anybody on the right says you defend.
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You went against Bush, and at a point when Fahrenheit 9-11 came out, you and Michael Moore may have been on the same side,
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which is a pretty weird thing to say that you and Michael Moore agreed on something.
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Well, I don't want to put Michael Moore in jail like Dinesh D'Souza was.
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But that's what I'm getting at is they changed the subject to how we expose the surveillance state and world government and globalism,
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and they just, the media then brands it Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook.
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I was not the first person to question Sandy Hook.
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I then looked at it, and then I said, okay, I think it happened.
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And three, four years later, they're in newspapers every day showing, Alex, please stop saying my son didn't die.
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Because the whole Democrat machine and all this is behind it.
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And if you're involved in that, socialism, Venezuela, everything.
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But they act like I killed the kids at Sandy Hook.
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Again, and the thing is, it's like one little thing I covered.
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So, why don't you just clarify this with Sandy Hook?
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So, our use is your argument on Sandy Hook, which maybe the viewers don't understand fully.
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Were you trying to say, I believe it did happen, but I believe the government had something to do with it.
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Because those are two different arguments to make.
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If you say, this was staged by the government, well, maybe that's a conspiracy that we can say, no, I disagree with.
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And the kids were always into Nazism and devil worship, like Harris and Kleibold at what happened in Columbine.
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And then the internet says, look at all these anomalies.
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And I'm looking at them and I'm saying, is that true?
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And then about a year or so after, I start saying to people that are saying, I'm covering up because I'm saying I thought it happened.
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And then reporters come to me and they say, tell us what you think really happened.
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And then I say the anomalies, even though I've already proven those anomalies aren't what they say they are.
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Then they sue me for saying what the anomalies are, cutting off that I say it happened.
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It's a way to, like, suck the oxygen out of the room.
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I literally, one-tenth of a billionth of what I've done to Sandy Hook.
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And now it's constant Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook.
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Just so you know, I've got 15 more topics that I'll block you.
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I know you've got 15, but that's where this goes.
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So I think it can simplify it if you just say, here's an argument.
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Are you saying Sandy Hook was staged and the people that walked there, they were acting?
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Are you saying it happened, but the government has something to do with it?
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And I apologize to people taking out of context what I questioned.
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And then the media used it to try to hurt families.
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So you're not saying there's any government involvement?
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No, I don't think there's any government involvement.
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So going back to the question again that I think still hasn't been answered.
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Paul said they're going to blame Bin Laden for blowing up the World Trade Center.
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And would you say that was the first time where people actually look?
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It's not like this is a new thing you're doing.
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And you were, whether it was Austin, whether it was whatever, you're an inspiration.
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Your dad being a dentist, you had these types of conversations.
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One day you're like, you are a believer in what you talk about.
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But when you talked about the 9-11 issue and you said, I think this is what's taking place.
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And I think the U.S. government is participating in this.
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Partially Bush or whoever it is you were talking about.
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Do you think that was the first time where the audience and the media kind of was a tipping point for them where they said, wow, maybe he does have a point.
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Because the Democrats were kind of saying, you know, he's not even defending the guys on the right side.
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Do you think that's when media kind of favored you a little bit in 01?
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But I just saw the preparation for what was happening.
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And so, again, it doesn't mean that 9-11 wasn't a real attack.
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It means that certain political interests stood down.
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So I just go with whatever I think the best research is.
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There are some content creators that are worried to say, well, do I need to also be careful?
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Because here's a guy that maybe his voice is being hidden.
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You know, maybe I need to stop talking about capitalism.
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Maybe I need to start talking about some of this stuff.
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What is your concern now that you don't have access to social media today?
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How does it feel like knowing you can't log on to YouTube, Twitter, create any content?
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Because it's gotten me to realize what I already knew that we were already shadow banned.
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We were already giving our soul to this fraudulent thing.
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And so we need to build things outside of that to really create a free society.
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And so we have more real viewers, more real listeners, more dialed-in people than we've ever had under the censorship.
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I know your website is ranked, I think, 623 in U.S. alone.
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If you look at the ranking of Alexa as of today, what's happened to traffic from the day you were banned?
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Three years ago, more than 5,000 conservative sites were delisted 80% in one day.
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And the sponsors called and said, my God, we're still getting response, but you're down 80%.
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So going into the campaign three years ago, Amazon totally delisted everybody and did that just to try to hurt our sponsors.
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But our sponsors went, well, we're getting record response.
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Because our traffic was really going like this.
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But how do you feel about not being on social media right now?
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Are you okay with that if you never, ever, ever are allowed back for the rest of your life?
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Well, no, it's horrible to take somebody's digital identity.
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And use your views to intimidate you and shut you down.
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But I'm not the average person that's going to criticize the system and then be banned.
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I've got hundreds of radio stations, TV stations.
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But for the average person, it's absolutely horrible.
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So it's kind of for me when I look at somebody like you.
00:29:15.600
And if you're running a business and you're selling, you're speaking all the time.
00:29:28.500
And so for me, it was a way for me to sit back and realize, you know, the smallest little
00:29:40.120
So today, if 5 billion views are gone, how is Alex Jones feeling today?
00:29:47.020
And that's 5 billion views just on YouTube, not including everything else.
00:29:51.040
The 16 million iTunes subscribers and all of it, I feel good because I'm on a sellout
00:30:00.560
and I'm a trailblazer and people project who I am.
00:30:05.580
They lie about me all day, but we've never had more hardcore listeners.
00:30:14.060
And they, they, they, they build these trauma and if what I've said and what I've done, try
00:30:20.440
And then they think if he can demonize Alex Jones, we can demonize everybody else.
00:30:25.480
And then once they accept destroying him, then they'll accept destroying everybody else.
00:30:38.480
I can tell you, I didn't like the fact that I couldn't speak for three months.
00:30:42.400
I interviewed Richard Turner, card mechanic, and he said one day he looks out, he can't
00:30:49.280
That's like suddenly your voice has gone for social media.
00:30:52.820
Social media today is a bigger platform than radio.
00:30:56.000
I think you said one time to Rogan where you said a lot of these guys on CNN and Fox, maybe
00:31:00.400
have a hundred thousand listeners, maybe you have a million listeners.
00:31:04.900
I have billions of, you're saying these stats that you're giving to people.
00:31:10.620
And are you okay if you never ever get it back?
00:31:13.540
If CNN or MSNBC was covering real topics, they'd have the audience.
00:31:19.360
Any forum that's popular, any forum that has something great going on in it is going to
00:31:27.380
I'm not trying to be positive on this because I'm worried about censorship and Amazon banning
00:31:33.780
But we, we have the biggest audience we've ever had.
00:31:37.320
So, you're okay if they never get, if you've banned permanently, there's never, ever, no
00:31:42.820
one's ever going to let you back on this one website called Facebook with 2 billion users
00:31:50.320
What they're doing to everybody is wrong, is election meddling, and is censorship, and
00:31:56.000
But I'm saying, I'm at the top of the food chain.
00:32:00.600
No, no, but I'm saying, I'm at, yeah, I'm not worried about me, but I'm at the top of
00:32:04.520
And so, technically, I have more hardcore listeners and trafficinfowars.com, and more
00:32:12.740
people supporting us, and more radio stations and TV stations.
00:32:19.100
You think being on Facebook or Twitter with all their game crap is big.
00:32:24.620
When you're on 50,000 watt AM stations and 100,000 watt stations in LA and New York, they
00:32:35.000
But we both know the guy that became president is because he understands Twitter.
00:32:41.360
Well, I hope Trump figures out that the internet's key.
00:32:43.860
No, no, I'm not saying that internet isn't the future.
00:32:46.260
I'm simply saying that they are attempting to shut everybody down now, and they're engaged
00:32:53.600
in classical authoritarianism against free speech.
00:33:01.980
They demonize me so that no one stands up for me when they take my speech, and that is
00:33:10.760
Okay, so let's just say Zuck is watching right now.
00:33:14.480
Larry Page, Sergey, you know, folks at YouTube, they're owned by Google, Doris, all these guys
00:33:22.480
Would you ever want to be, you know, figuring out a way to be let, you know, be back on
00:33:27.380
these social media platforms, or you're okay if they never, ever let you back on again?
00:33:36.260
Whether you take me back or not, I am never changing a single way.
00:33:41.880
Well, obviously, they're like 90% of the internet.
00:33:46.840
But they misrepresent everything I've said and done.
00:33:51.720
It's like Jack Dorsey went on a month ago on NBC, CNN, ABC, all of it.
00:34:00.260
He went on with Lester Holt, and Lester Holt's like, Jones says he wants to kill the media
00:34:07.280
And Dorsey goes, Jack Dorsey goes, I know it's horrible, but he can stay.
00:34:18.080
But Dorsey, the first time he defended you, to give...
00:34:22.700
I talked to folks that were in the meeting with him.
00:34:24.740
When I confronted Marco Rubio, who walked up to the press conference, Jack Dorsey said,
00:34:30.980
oh, my God, now he's been mean to a Republican.
00:34:41.000
People in the meeting telling you that now that you're going after Marco Rubio,
00:34:45.720
I've talked to folks that were in the meeting with Jack Dorsey.
00:35:13.480
He's already one of the worst banners out there.
00:35:15.940
And so by leaving Trump up there, Trump could announce some news service or some group overnight
00:35:23.580
Yeah, but the point I'm trying to make to you is I don't think Dorsey.
00:35:33.220
And by the way, I am not on Dorsey's side politically.
00:35:40.560
But you and I both know if, let's just say, he is helping out the Hillary Clinton fan.
00:35:45.140
80% of media is on Clinton's side, hypothetically.
00:35:54.380
Let's just say you take out Drudge Report, Fox News.
00:35:57.100
You take some of these things out of New York Post.
00:36:03.100
But how come Dorsey hasn't done something to Trump?
00:36:11.100
So I think there is something that happened at Tiffany Cohen.
00:36:23.940
And then when I got in Rubio's face, he literally said,
00:36:50.620
So do you remember back in the days when Beck used to be the main guy to watch on Fox?
00:37:08.580
And you know, and everybody's like, oh my gosh, this could be a conspiracy and it's tight.
00:37:13.820
But these guys haven't been banned off Twitter.
00:37:26.240
Because it sure as hell isn't because they say I question Sandy Hook.
00:37:31.480
No, it's because I cover the geopolitical system and how they're setting up a world government
00:37:36.740
and how they want eugenics and depopulation and how the communist Chinese have merged with
00:37:59.800
And Milo may be one of the most annoying social media guys.
00:38:12.840
For instance, you say, well, the water they have, like I remember when I was in the army
00:38:16.740
and they would say with the punch they put in the army that you drink it, it's purposely
00:38:20.020
set up so you don't get too excited to want to have sex because when you're in bootcamp
00:38:24.760
and AIT, you know, they don't want you to be too sexual because you're not going to
00:38:34.320
But I think you'll take that and you'll say something like, well, you know, it's because,
00:38:40.420
you know, Clinton is tied to Nazi and Hitler and then you sell it even bigger.
00:38:48.380
When I have 500 Harvard reports about atrazine causing low sperm counts, then I cover it.
00:39:02.440
But Alex, you turn around and you say the water they're feeding us is the water that they put
00:39:07.680
into, you know, frogs and our frogs are becoming gay because they want our kids to be gay.
00:39:12.060
I mean, what do you mean frogs are becoming gay?
00:39:14.780
Well, that's actually Bertrand Russell in the UN.
00:39:16.820
They said we will add chemicals in the water to confuse the sexuality and reduce population.
00:39:22.980
Have you read the book Naked Communist by Cleon Scalcin?
00:39:26.840
And I've read the Naked Communist, and I've read the Naked Capitalist, he wrote.
00:39:32.400
Yeah, I've seen these methods on what they want to do to take away the original fundamentals.
00:39:37.880
Well, what I'm telling you is the sperm count, the general sperm count's down about 90% in
00:39:44.520
What's the story with frogs being gay with the water?
00:39:55.980
Tell me about this frog porn you're talking about here.
00:40:00.580
Frogs are amphibians, so they're in the major water dump-off systems.
00:40:06.000
And, like, 10 years ago, they had a show on Democracy Now!, and they had one on PBS.
00:40:13.280
And I played the reports how most of the frogs were asexual or were trying to have sex with
00:40:26.340
The media attacked me and said, Jones is homophobic against gay frogs.
00:40:31.540
I said, oh, my God, they're putting stuff in the water to make the frigging frogs gay.
00:40:36.340
Anybody can search Democracy Now!, anybody can search PBS.
00:40:39.980
And so it becomes this debate about Alex Jones instead of the runoff is so toxic that our
00:40:46.980
kids are involved in and the emasculation of men and it causes women breast cancer.
00:40:52.680
You know, it really hurts people that it becomes this big thing.
00:40:59.360
I covered PBS, Democracy Now!, about their headline in Democracy Now!
00:41:19.320
You just said, you know, they're turning, you were just speaking.
00:41:25.760
And then I said, oh, my God, they're making the frigging frogs gay.
00:41:30.260
But, I mean, why would you, look, you say something like that, they're making frogs gay.
00:41:36.360
No, let's, no, let's just say the chemicals are bad.
00:41:39.940
So, okay, for instance, you say something like this.
00:41:42.080
You say, I'm telling you, folks, nerds are one of the most dangerous groups in this country
00:41:47.980
But they still hate everybody because they weren't the jocks in high school.
00:41:54.260
They use their brains to hurt people, and I'm aware of them, okay?
00:42:00.400
So I sit there and I say, interesting, fair enough.
00:42:08.300
He didn't have any girls I wanted to get with him.
00:42:10.360
So he probably didn't get laid until he was 22.
00:42:12.660
So he says, I'm going to go out there and become so successful because this.
00:42:18.500
But then you'll take that and you go, Bill Gates is trying to do what he's doing in Africa,
00:42:22.780
and he's trying to do this, and, you know, he's not really somebody that's making.
00:42:27.860
And so I sit there and I say, okay, let me go research Bill Gates.
00:42:32.540
Hypothetically, somebody that's a reader, somebody that likes to research,
00:42:35.000
somebody that's not a naive viewer that's just going to jump to conclusion.
00:42:38.620
Then I say, come on, Alex, you're sensationalizing.
00:42:44.280
Bill Gates, his dad, headed up the Army program on eugenics and was the head of Planned Parenthood.
00:42:49.260
And he went on Bill Maher and said, we need to reduce world population.
00:42:55.860
Yeah, but, Alex, you take it to a point where the media is sitting there saying,
00:43:00.780
a guy, okay, a naive mind can hear to somebody, listen to somebody like you,
00:43:21.360
So, that is the main human genome eugenics center.
00:43:43.560
Alex, if you know everything that you say you know, and you've got their plans,
00:43:53.660
Yeah, but you've said Hillary Clinton's, you know, her plan goes and, you know, all these
00:43:57.720
So, if you're opposing the most powerful Democrat in the marketplace, let's just say.
00:44:03.420
Because they thought I was a joke, like a poison, I titrated it.
00:44:14.680
And now, when the poison, the truth, is so strong, when the big dose hits them, they already
00:45:07.160
They're so afraid because I've got their number.
00:45:17.600
So, if that's where you're at, who cares if you ever get back on social media?
00:45:27.080
Everything else is just getting ready to meet God.
00:45:53.520
It's not just a system where everybody's a coward and sells out.
00:45:59.360
There's people that are dedicated to the truth and are ready to go all the way.
00:46:02.780
And not just put themselves in the line, but their whole families.
00:46:14.920
I've got a 16-month-old right up to a 16-year-old.
00:46:19.380
And there's no, this exterminist program is anti-human.
00:46:23.540
And if I don't do this, they have no future anyways.
00:46:27.460
And that's the liberating understanding, is that if I don't commit to the truth and take this,
00:46:36.440
There's a very narrow window we've got for humanity.
00:46:55.040
Long after they figured out what we did to them, they came after me.
00:47:01.660
With whatever happened to you right now, you don't think any of it is self-inflicted?
00:47:08.600
I went back in hindsight on a lot of things different.
00:47:15.900
So, you are just not even letting them have one on you.
00:47:21.000
Oh, I've said 500 times that I believe Sandy Hook happened.
00:47:31.320
Yeah, but I mean, you get banned and you come out and you're going in front of Dorsey.
00:47:42.660
When they told me, lay down and die or we'll ban you completely, I'll fight back.
00:47:51.400
So, this whole thing with pizza gate theory, the stuff that you have, they...
00:47:55.260
Well, the Catholic Church running giant pedophile rings, that's confirmed, and the fact that
00:47:59.680
it was in the WikiLeaks that there were these giant child kidnapping rings, NBC, ABC, CNN,
00:48:05.360
they focused on a pizza place in D.C. to divert everyone, like a broken...
00:48:11.640
You know, like a mockingbird, the mother acts like it's wings broken.
00:48:15.960
Like, the kids are going to be in the hot tub, and Obama wants the hot dogs, $65,000 worth.
00:48:23.680
And then they diverted off to D.C., and people covered it, and I said, oh, yeah, that's not
00:48:29.960
So, they go, oh, my God, pedophilia doesn't exist.
00:48:34.560
It's all coming out in the news, and their old PR stuff with me isn't going to work.
00:48:44.640
Six years ago, kids getting shot by a Prozac head who got a gun illegally, and I've been
00:48:51.640
saying for years, I think it happened, but the media keeps saying I didn't.
00:48:56.200
And we go back to Pizzagate, pedophilia doesn't exist.
00:49:01.640
So, again, I'm far beyond even caring what people think anymore.
00:49:15.940
The truth is, this world government's coming down.
00:49:19.380
This whole vampiric system is coming down, and I feel damn good about it.
00:49:22.720
It's comments like that that get you in trouble, what you just said right there.
00:49:33.500
The private interest of the Federal Reserve, the big Vatican systems, the traffic in children,
00:49:40.360
The corrupt system is in the spotlight, and it's coming down.
00:49:44.240
And to make this clear, you're not talking about one side of politics.
00:49:49.520
And what I'm saying is, is that I'm dead already.
00:50:07.640
The spirit of humanity manifests itself in resistance.
00:50:18.060
What do we do to the corrupt, blue-blood Republicans?
00:50:22.800
What do we do to let them know we're still alive?
00:50:27.560
And it doesn't mean, you know, that things don't get a little messy in this thing.
00:50:35.140
At the end of the day, I'm not raping little kids.
00:50:38.840
I didn't launch the wars that killed millions of people.
00:50:41.240
I didn't ship in the narcotics that killed millions of people.
00:50:54.000
Well, it's because the mainstream media are good people.
00:50:56.160
I mean, Apple and Google and Facebook are nice people.
00:51:09.900
He called his users dumb fuckers, but he didn't mean that.
00:51:27.200
And we should just roll over because you saw what happened to Alex Jones.
00:51:36.280
And you better do whatever we say or you're going to pay.
00:51:52.180
The people that are about to bring this corrupt world down and build the new world up.
00:51:56.920
Who's got your back right now outside of the people that follow you?
00:51:59.480
Like who that has a name is fighting for you right now?
00:52:04.380
That's why I asked when's the last time you spoke to Trump if he reached out to you and said,
00:52:08.540
Because I know when you won, he went on Infowars.
00:52:11.780
And then he said something like, Alex, I'm going to make you proud.
00:52:14.160
Or when we get in, something's going to happen.
00:52:18.120
Trump called me after he won and said, thank you.
00:52:37.840
No, I've asked him to defeat the enemy trying to shut down free speech.
00:52:43.820
Isn't that in a way indirectly asking for help?
00:52:49.020
He has to take action against the tech giants that are CHICOM funded trying to dominate us.
00:52:56.400
Well, you know, he's already not on the side of Bezos.
00:53:00.600
Yeah, Bezos and Amazon have their own problems.
00:53:04.360
But they're a child's play compared to Google and Apple.
00:53:08.300
Obviously, Amazon's game is a different game than...
00:53:16.540
Who's calling me saying, hey, I'm going to go out there and fight for you?
00:53:18.580
The strongest thing you can do is to have nobody having your back.
00:53:35.000
They were so pissed off that when Travis drove the line in the sand, almost everybody stood across it.
00:53:46.040
These aren't like Satanist sacrifices where they do a little kid and all these people trying to act powerful.
00:53:57.120
It'll be remember Alex Jones when we win this and launch the next phase of human expansion.
00:54:02.320
You think what you're doing right now is Christ-like?
00:54:05.320
I think standing up for what's right, being fearless, and building a future is in the spirit of Christ.
00:54:15.260
I mean, even his Judas, let's just say he backstabbed them.
00:54:19.640
Out of the 12, you don't think people backed them up?
00:54:26.820
That's what I'm telling you, is that we've already changed the world.
00:54:31.560
And I need to take my licks, and I will take them.
00:54:44.140
Your website gets tens of millions of traffic that come in.
00:54:47.700
You're not a blogger that got excited and made a rumor about a video with Kim Kardashian,
00:55:10.020
In the political side, left, right, middle, business.
00:55:13.280
Who is saying, I'm going to spend money to go out there and make sure Alex is back on
00:55:18.060
I'm going to make sure I go out there and support him.
00:55:22.380
But I will tell you that patriots in the Pentagon and the military are watching Google and Facebook
00:55:33.100
And I'm not coordinating with anybody, but I can tell you that I think when they make
00:55:38.060
their moves, they'll be unpleasantly surprised by what happens.
00:55:43.760
And that's just what happens to happen to these people.
00:55:46.120
Has anybody gotten vocal saying, I'm going to back you up?
00:55:50.740
I mean, you go to Rubio and Rubio says, who is this guy?
00:56:07.340
It's not like I sit there and go, I'm going to do the right thing.
00:56:15.260
I've exposed the surveillance via the smartphones.
00:56:17.820
I exposed the world government that's unelected.
00:56:20.040
But I rebooted with my listeners the entire resistance worldwide.
00:56:26.260
And that's why they hate me, because they track it back to Brazil.
00:56:38.380
I've already metaphysically know that I've got important work to do as long as God wants me to, but I've already moved on.
00:56:49.800
It's not about me and my temporal power on this planet.
00:56:52.420
And I'm a dead man, like everybody else, and I'm just moving forward.
00:56:59.480
Dead man as in eventually you're going to die, or dead man meaning your career is done?
00:57:05.260
The enemy wants me dead, and I'm comfortable with that.
00:57:27.040
In fact, I always feel my heart, stomach, now it's in my bones.
00:58:02.400
And that's why the enemy hates me because I'm well beyond their grasp now.
00:58:12.280
I just pray that God will have mercy on my children.
00:58:20.300
So you don't think there's anything here for you to figure out a way to bring you back
00:58:30.600
and have this be a second coming of Alex's mind getting to work and doing all that stuff?
00:58:43.580
I'm just telling you that I knew when Trump was elected election night that I told everybody,
00:58:57.520
And I said, I've completed my work and everything else now is up to everybody else.
00:59:03.480
So I've already completed the mission and Trump's trying to complete the mission.
00:59:08.720
And now Trump has given us prosperity and everything else.
00:59:23.720
Like, because we're on target, we know the program.
00:59:34.120
And because we know the program, they hate us because they don't have the next level understanding.
00:59:41.260
I mean, there's all these questions about GMO and vaccines and globalism and the fertility dropping
00:59:46.780
and the families and little kids committing suicide everywhere and just evil is flooding in.
00:59:51.420
And then it becomes this thing about Alex Jones questions Sandy Hook.
00:59:57.540
You know, when they staged all this other stuff before, anybody would question that.
01:00:02.560
You know about Iraq, the babies and incubators, 1990.
01:00:05.060
And so at the end of the day, I'm just not worried.
01:00:16.040
Are you still waking up and going through the same routine?
01:00:21.600
I'm sure if I've got some great new future and things turn around, they're great.
01:00:25.160
It's just that I know metaphysically, like a B-17 over Nazi Germany.
01:00:35.140
And they're on, like Messerschmitts are chasing me.
01:00:37.300
But I can look back and see the power plants on fire.
01:00:41.900
I hope I go back and land and get back in and go and do it again.
01:00:52.380
I'm not going to go out there and play in the offensive anymore.
01:00:54.140
You're saying you're still doubling down on playing offense.
01:00:57.000
Yes, but I already fundamentally, like a Super Bowl team wins like three or four Super Bowls.
01:01:14.760
The chain reaction from Brazil to Russia to the U.K. to Germany to everywhere, it's already happened.
01:01:24.080
And so it matters how hard the road is for everybody.
01:01:32.880
What I'm telling you is the fuse is already lit.
01:01:42.640
But I've already, the enemy already metaphysically knows that I, with God's help, it's all God and all Jesus, already devastated them.
01:01:52.940
I foresaw it when I was a teenager long before.
01:01:56.040
I prepared it and I built it with everybody else's energy.
01:02:07.700
Because while I'm doing this, our people are already light years ahead.
01:02:15.340
While I delay them here, while they chew me up and destroy me, our children are launching into the next level.
01:02:23.880
What's your oldest son saying about this whole thing?
01:02:33.020
Can he still, like, does he still have accounts?
01:02:35.840
He hasn't really been on, he's been on my show a few times, but I mean...
01:02:42.540
Yeah, but what's this idea that Facebook and Twitter and Google are everything?
01:02:49.840
Like Matt Drudge said, we have to build our own things.
01:02:58.740
Well, King George had the monopoly 240 years ago.
01:03:03.400
Is there a concern that all of a sudden a GoDaddy can say, we're not hosting AlexJones.com?
01:03:13.080
Take our payment processors and shut the websites down.
01:03:17.600
I mean, I'm going to fight all the way to the end as hard as I can.
01:03:22.180
But if they take that stuff away from me, it's not like, oh, my God, I'm not on air.
01:03:30.380
If you're off-site, you are completely done with everything you...
01:03:36.680
If they put a gun to my head and the .357 Magnum would say, you denounce Jesus Christ and
01:03:41.900
America and freedom are going to blow your head off, I'll say, pull that goddamn trigger.
01:03:50.080
But you have no desire to go back and try to rekindle a relationship and ask for, hey,
01:04:03.220
This is a worldwide internet ID, a worldwide social score to train us to submit to evil
01:04:09.660
and watch what we say or they'll ban us and then they misrepresent what we said.
01:04:18.140
Jesus, that's what I'm getting at is that why don't we talk about these big corporations
01:04:25.980
Why don't we talk about these big corporations selling evil wars?
01:04:31.840
Because let's just say some folks haven't heard it.
01:04:37.240
Like for instance, you said this here one time and I actually...
01:04:40.360
This is something that has a lot of truth behind it.
01:04:43.460
The U.S. number one cause of unnatural death is suicide now because they give people suicide
01:04:51.340
I want to get people off that pill that insert says will make you commit suicide and kill people.
01:04:56.300
I want to blame the real culprit, suicide pills, mass murder pill.
01:05:01.400
That some of these large pharmaceutical companies are producing products that look like it's a good thing
01:05:08.060
I was on Piers Morgan in 2013 and their Prozac and Luvox ads during the breaks.
01:05:15.840
And he's telling me gun owners are to blame when the shooter at Sandy Hook was on a Prozac drug.
01:05:23.620
And every time, every time they're on Prozac, it puts them into a state that inserts say it can make you commit mass murder.
01:05:32.160
And so that's what I'm saying is you're pushing this.
01:05:39.440
You're blaming the Second Amendment and gun owners when every time it's some weird 13-year-old who's into devil worship,
01:05:46.100
who's on a Prozac drug, who's into shoot-em-up games.
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And so I'm saying these drugs say they can cause mass murder, psychotic breaks.
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And so I was saying don't blame the Second Amendment and what somebody else does who has a car or a baseball bat or a gun, blame that.
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And, boy, they were having me on the whole hour, they said.
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They cut that thing right then because they literally had Prozac-style drug ads on during the breaks.
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I think criminals are going to get guns regardless.
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But I do think with mental health, other issues, as long as it's become draconian, I think a background check is probably good.
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So a background check that does maybe if you're on prescription right now, you're taking Prozac, whatever it is,
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some of the medication lists that we have that is either for bipolar or whatever, you know, things that we just talked about.
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30% of women are on those drugs, about 15% of men.
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And a lot of people don't act like maniacs when they're on it.
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Before you restrict my right, people that are on those drugs, when the insert says it can make it be a killer, they should be looked at.
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I think if somebody has been diagnosed as psychotic and is on those drugs, there should be a database and you shouldn't be able to have a firearm.
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Yeah, but every time I see a mass shooting, they're like, have 10 psychiatrists that are on all these drugs, and then they have a gun illegally and they go kill people.
01:07:22.420
But you see, what you said right there makes sense.
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So somebody can go out there and say, I disagree, Alex.
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Or they can say, that's actually not a bad point.
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There's tons of stuff I wish I would have done better.
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But I stand by what I've actually done, not what media claims I've done.
01:07:53.980
So you're like, hey, are you okay doing this interview?
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It's people that actually face me instead of lying.
01:08:09.660
I'll try asking this one more time, and I'm curious to know what you're going to say.
01:08:20.840
Like, you know, a lot of times in business, you know, entrepreneurs, business people have blind spots.
01:08:29.420
Do you think one of the blind spots for you is sometimes you get so excited and animated,
01:08:34.620
and your energy, like your words, they come out so fast because your brain's going a million miles an hour
01:08:39.060
that sometimes you catch yourself overselling something?
01:08:45.380
Last week, I was talking about how Anderson Cooper had pushed the Arab Spring.
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And I taped the show, that Sunday show I taped.
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And I'm in the hot tub of my kids at my parents' house about to go eat dinner.
01:08:59.820
And I hear myself say, Tucker Carlson pushed the CIA invasion of the Arab Spring, and he's a jerk.
01:09:10.740
And I literally called Anderson Cooper, and I said, you probably won't hear about it, but I apologize.
01:09:16.620
But, yeah, no, I totally sometimes, like, you hear your rebroadcast, you're like, God, I'm an idiot.
01:09:24.220
And when you're not all calculating, you get things wrong sometimes.
01:09:41.080
Because when I'm sitting there and hearing myself say something that's totally BS, I'm like, wow.
01:09:51.060
Like when somebody, like, for instance, I used to tease my dad.
01:09:57.040
I would talk to them, and I'm just kind of saying stuff, but I also give my own quick disclaimers, and I go in.
01:10:01.480
So, I made a statement, but no one knows I made a double talk, safe statement.
01:10:04.620
I don't think it's double talk to say sometimes I get somebody's name completely wrong.
01:10:13.400
I'm talking, here's what happened, but let me tell you what else Hillary did.
01:10:19.540
Let me tell you what else, you know, Bush or 9-11.
01:10:22.960
Let me tell you what else, and then you take it to hold it.
01:10:28.660
Undoubtedly, I've exaggerated things from some time.
01:10:43.140
If I was just putting out BS, why would they be so worried?
01:10:45.520
You're asking, why do they want to ban me so bad?
01:10:49.640
You ever hear the saying, you ever hear the saying when they say, I can do 99% things right
01:10:55.060
They do, but what I'm saying is, they're not trying to ban me because I'm full of horsemen error.
01:11:00.620
They're trying to ban me because I've got their number.
01:11:04.820
Do you think you're the only person in the world that has their number?
01:11:28.980
If it's just like, they don't care if somebody's out of turn.
01:11:34.060
They're trying to ban me because I'm exposing their program.
01:11:36.720
Alex, do you think you're the only person that knows this stuff?
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So if you're not, how come other people haven't been banned?
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If I'm going to ban somebody, I'm going to ban it in a completely different way.
01:12:00.120
Listen, I understand you're top at what you do.
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But even today, you could say something like the Rubin Report.
01:12:14.200
I think they take me because they think they can take me out of context because they see me as weak to ban me.
01:12:22.500
They think they can take me out of context and get everybody to agree to ban me.
01:12:27.340
And once that first domino falls, everybody falls.
01:12:45.320
Because that's the whole part about conspiracy.
01:12:49.140
You're putting the fear in people's minds and hearts.
01:12:55.740
What is it that gets the whole power structure and 20 plus tech companies lined up to ban me in one day?
01:13:05.860
What is it I did that scares the living hell out of them?
01:13:10.400
What is it you did that scares the hell out of them?
01:13:27.760
So it's not like they're saying it's a conservative or Republican thing.
01:13:41.700
You add stacks on top of the stacks, on top of the stuff, on top of the stuff.
01:13:51.360
And you're getting people to take action on it.
01:13:53.360
For instance, the whole thing with the pizza gate.
01:14:01.100
Let you say I'm a true believer in Alex Jones and what he says.
01:14:05.660
And suddenly you say, if this is what, this is what, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:14:16.700
Kids in hot tubs, sex, all devil worship, Aleister Crowley stuff.
01:14:21.280
And we've got, like, it coming out with Wiener, all of it.
01:14:24.880
And then suddenly, New York Times, Washington Post, CNN say, no.
01:14:28.920
So, Pizzagate, which was FBI code words, where they use pizza and Italian food names for pedophilia, is this place.
01:14:38.480
The media then focuses on us reporting on other reports to say we're saying that that's happening here as a way to demonize us and black out all the other coverage of what's going on the other subject.
01:15:06.020
So, you lost credibility the moment you go that approach.
01:15:08.860
So, let me explain to you what I mean by this one I see.
01:15:19.540
The people that follow this stuff know that that kind of stuff happens.
01:15:26.100
But because you overly sensationalize, you make me take the credibility out of what's coming out of your mouth.
01:15:42.160
And you know they're getting heat all the time to want to ban Trump.
01:15:44.400
He can't do it because Trump helps his stock go up.
01:15:47.180
So, but yeah, yeah, yeah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
01:15:55.920
What if it was just I'm going to give you the info?
01:15:57.940
Well, there's no doubt when I see the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, Shane, the conspiracy theorists say there's a sex club in this place in D.C.
01:16:13.740
Do you understand that I never covered that pizza place until the Washington Post, the New York Times, and CNN did?
01:16:21.160
And then 4chan, which is a bunch of operatives, supplied all the BS.
01:16:28.000
But you understand, we didn't create that story.
01:16:33.800
But you have been talking about parts of that story.
01:16:39.840
People on the street walk up and they go, F you, Pizzagate.
01:16:50.220
I had a lady walk up two days ago when I was in the grocery store.
01:16:52.960
I was buying cherries and cheese and like food for the hamburger meat.
01:16:56.700
And the lady walks over and she goes, F you, stop harassing the Sandy Hook families.
01:17:02.660
And I looked at her and I said, lady, I questioned that five years ago, what other people did.
01:17:33.000
You said I wasn't the one that first brought that out.
01:17:37.900
Because you said one time on Megyn Kelly, Megyn Kelly said, where do you get your information from?
01:17:41.200
You said we go online, we gather data from different news.
01:18:00.380
I told her a year and a half ago in Austin, Texas, in the Hill Country, that I believe
01:18:05.500
And by the time she edited it, it sounds like I said, that's not fair, man.
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That's why I did this interview with you, because you don't edit stuff.
01:18:21.900
Imagine when they're in front of a jury going, Jones says nobody done.
01:18:40.720
People question things, and they looked at my whole life's work and said, let's point
01:18:49.840
Look, I'm going to re-remind you what you just said to me about two minutes ago.
01:19:00.520
That's kind of like you saying, I didn't invent guns.
01:19:05.520
So you took that story that they started talking about, and then you sensationalized it, and
01:19:15.640
No, the media said that some out-of-work actor hooked into them, that no one even proved
01:19:20.140
shot the place, did that, as like a way to even ask the first amendment.
01:19:26.160
CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times, they kicked it off.
01:19:40.020
What am I supposed to do when we have 50,000 emails, and they're talking about Anton LaVey,
01:19:46.760
and they're talking about Alistair Crowley, and how kids are going to be in hot tubs, and
01:19:55.920
They changed the subject from the 50,000 emails about drinking sperm to this place in D.C.
01:20:10.800
If I'm running a country, Alex, say I'm running a country.
01:20:14.660
Say I'm a president of a country, and I got two terms.
01:20:18.720
I, as a leader of the nation, have to sit there and make sure the decisions that are
01:20:23.620
being made are going in the right direction, and I want to make sure conspiracy theories,
01:20:29.720
if they're being told, they're being held accountable, and my biggest concern as somebody
01:20:33.680
that runs a country is going to be, hey, I don't want somebody that's taking a story
01:20:41.440
Well, I got to make sure I allow both sides of the media to have platform.
01:20:44.280
Now, if I'm a dictator, I can only have one side.
01:20:57.640
You went to a community college or something like that, and you dropped that.
01:21:03.720
What is your thoughts on the current educational system?
01:21:06.480
I think it's a total scam, like Rush Limbaugh used to say.
01:21:12.080
I could have gotten into UT, and I already had a couple jobs.
01:21:14.620
I was making, like, more than the professors were.
01:21:16.300
Like, I was making $100,000 a year, and I knew the professors were making, like, $40,000
01:21:22.740
a year, and it was all this anti-American crap.
01:21:25.120
So I was in sales and a bunch of other stuff when I was, like, 19 years old, and so I just
01:21:31.920
thought it was more of an indoctrination thing because I went to a community college for two
01:21:35.280
years, and that's why I got out of, you know, modern education, which I think isn't actually
01:21:40.780
I think it's politically kind of just indoctrinating, so that's where I stand on modern education.
01:21:45.780
I think education's great overall, if it's based on what's really going on, like engineering
01:21:53.100
or things like that, but I think general degrees now are a joke.
01:22:00.640
Anything outside of STEM, you don't necessarily need to go to school.
01:22:05.520
I mean, people need to, you know, know engineering.
01:22:07.940
They need to know they're going to probably be a lawyer, go to school, but mainly it's
01:22:15.100
Mainly the concern is that they're going to get into big debt.
01:22:17.860
Do you have a strong opinion on how you would improve it?
01:22:21.060
I actually am curious to know if there's one, two, three things you'd say, here's what
01:22:25.060
we could do with the educational system to improve it, or it's a non-topic, non-issue.
01:22:27.940
The educational system is about political indoctrination, so I would fix it by making it based
01:22:33.760
on real, up-to-date, real-world application for engineering, for culture, for science,
01:22:41.620
for jobs, not about being politically indoctrinated.
01:22:45.160
So they are basically political cults now, and education for most applications is worthless.
01:23:02.180
You know how time called him possibly the most influential Democrat in the world, possibly
01:23:08.740
outside of, obviously, the people behind closed doors that he's got a lot of influence.
01:23:12.080
What do you think about him and the level of influence that he has?
01:23:14.740
I mean, David Brock is basically George Soros' toilet.
01:23:20.040
So whatever George Soros craps out on us is into David Brock.
01:23:25.180
So David Brock is just a soulless, globalist that takes hundreds of millions of dollars to
01:23:29.880
attack the First Amendment, infiltrate media organizations, engage in all sorts of horrible
01:23:36.100
I mean, David Brock is just a absolutely traitorous individual.
01:23:53.020
So who are you more concerned about, Soros or him?
01:23:59.980
I mean, I'm more worried about the bloated belly of Soros and all that poison.
01:24:13.900
I mean, Deep State is just the bureaucracy and the shadow government is the COG, continuity
01:24:22.080
You talk about Illuminati, that's just an outmoded name for secret societies.
01:24:26.100
So I don't think the two actually combine together.
01:24:29.640
But you've got a lot of corporate special interests and a lot of glad handers that get
01:24:33.700
in positions of power and don't actually think about prosperity or real business deals.
01:24:39.060
And so I think that's the confluence of the Deep State and of the shadow government.
01:24:44.160
As for Illuminati, that's just some fanciful term from France 200 and something years ago.
01:24:53.940
If you want to be technical in 21st century parlance, the Illuminati means the illuminated
01:25:00.940
But the people pushing the modern Illuminati system are one in control.
01:25:04.960
So no one who's actually seriously trying to build a civilization calls themselves the
01:25:10.500
No one really that's trying to build a civilization calls themselves the Illuminati.
01:25:16.160
Even though Illuminati is a good word, you're illuminated.
01:25:22.160
So you could technically say like Trump's the head of the Illuminati.
01:25:31.440
And so you could say, I'm the head of the Illuminati.
01:25:37.080
And it becomes this negative term like, oh, they're Illuminati.
01:25:44.180
And so the two things, one is a term in Latin for different revolutionary groups.
01:25:49.500
The other is real names of real stratas of governmental systems.
01:25:57.260
At what point did you come out, when you came out and you talked about what you thought
01:26:00.700
was taking place with 9-11, who was really behind a 9-11 with what you've studied over
01:26:13.740
And at like 8 o'clock in the morning, oh my God, a plane crashed in.
01:26:18.980
And I went on the air because I was on a syndicated network and I covered it.
01:26:23.500
And then I was during breaks listening to local news, watching local news, and they're
01:26:31.380
And then I went to get a pizza at like 4 o'clock and they're saying on CBS radio, bombs in building
01:26:36.280
seven, they're going to blow it up for everybody's safety.
01:26:39.960
So I go on air and I say, I just heard CBS radio news back when they still had it 18 years
01:26:45.920
And I go, they just said that Solomon Brothers building was blown up by bombs.
01:26:53.900
And it wasn't for five years that they uploaded the CBS, the Fox, the CNN full day.
01:27:02.340
And it was CNN, BBC, CBS, all saying, Solomon Brothers building, BBC, bombs have been placed
01:27:15.920
And everybody was like, whoa, Jones said that because they made a big deal out of it.
01:27:24.240
I went a mile to get a pizza at like 4 o'clock and I'm getting the pizza and I'm in the car
01:27:31.880
And they're saying, Solomon Brothers building, building seven, controlled demolition, so it
01:27:37.860
And I go on air and I go, they're blowing up building seven and I'm attacked in papers
01:27:42.980
And then now I've got BBC on three channels, ABC, CBS, all saying it.
01:27:49.160
And they go, well, conspiracy theory, what happened?
01:27:59.860
And they go, well, they go, did the firefighters blow it up?
01:28:11.920
CBS, ABC, CNN, two BBC channels saying they're going to blow up building seven and a controlled
01:28:23.660
I was shoving cheese and pepperoni pizza in my mouth, listening to it.
01:28:34.280
I just heard them say on CBS radio, they're going to blow up building seven.
01:28:46.160
And anybody can go type in line, police say they're blowing up building seven or building
01:28:57.520
Till today, with all the research you've done, you don't know.
01:29:00.000
You don't have any, you know, you have some family that was in a military, that was in
01:29:05.440
So you've spoken to other CIA agents, DEA agents, some other people that are on the
01:29:09.760
From your perspective, you don't have any strong evidence that it was either somebody involved
01:29:19.920
Dick Cheney wrote Rebuilding America's Defenses a year before 9-11, PNAC document.
01:29:25.980
And it says, we want a new Pearl Harbor that kills at least 3,000 people.
01:29:30.580
And we want to use bioweapons to kill the Muslims.
01:29:43.660
And only the Austin American statesman picked it up.
01:29:47.640
Dick Cheney says, we got race-specific weapons.
01:29:50.340
And the problem is, it'll kill 22% of whites and like 70% of blacks, because Arabs are a
01:30:02.000
And I'm like reading this in the PNAC documents, right after 9-11 it happened.
01:30:21.680
They're writing documents saying do this attack.
01:30:27.500
All I said was, they released NORAD footage and NORAD audio like six months after.
01:30:33.260
Where they're like, God, we've never seen a drill like this.
01:30:45.360
They've got sidewinders being fired into planes in Flight 93.
01:30:49.960
And I talked to the general that was in charge of it.
01:30:54.060
And then I talked to the guy that was the head of emergency management, deputy head.
01:31:00.860
I'm interviewing generals and captains and deputy heads of emergency management.
01:31:06.440
And they're all dying in the weeks I interview them.
01:31:16.020
That's what I'm telling you is nobody's got a pay grade this high.
01:31:21.700
All I know is, is that nobody's got a pay grade this high to know exactly what happened.
01:31:29.780
All I know is, we have footage of police saying, get back.
01:31:39.240
And I talked to the cops that were there on the tape.
01:31:42.120
And they go, yeah, it was the, it was the, it was the Red Cross.
01:31:47.860
And they say, we're going to blow up building seven, get back.
01:31:58.560
And so people then go, well, who did it, Jones?
01:32:05.240
There's people on tape doing countdowns for buildings being blown up.
01:32:15.020
Did it cause any other conspiracies or any questions?
01:32:22.760
Like, they're flying Saudi Arabians out the day after 9-11.
01:32:26.580
It was kind of like Bush knew and let it happen.
01:32:29.100
It was kind of a whitewash of what I already knew.
01:32:32.240
So it didn't change any part of your opinion at all?
01:32:37.400
There were all these FBI agents saying they were ordered to stand down.
01:32:43.600
Like, Fahrenheit 9-11 came out like a year later.
01:32:52.320
And they say you have all these different conspiracies.
01:32:54.780
You have some things that you talk about, right?
01:32:58.520
They would call it a conspiracy that I said a film came out.
01:33:06.300
You make it easy sometimes for these people to take shots at you.
01:33:09.100
Some people also on the flip side say, listen, Alex could have contacts on the inside with
01:33:15.380
the CIA and DEA that he knows people that are feeding him stuff, etc., etc.
01:33:19.680
Is there anybody, you know, that on the inside that's connecting you and telling you stuff?
01:33:22.940
Because if that is true, you would have more information about 9-11.
01:33:26.200
Because if the stuff you're talking about got 5 billion views, then wouldn't somebody
01:33:30.240
from the inside who is opposing, like right now they're saying there's somebody on the
01:33:34.200
inside that's working with Trump that opposes him, somebody would contact and say, like,
01:33:37.420
Alex, here's some information I'm going to pass down to you.
01:33:40.420
If you went and bought groceries five years ago, are you worried about the grocery you
01:33:52.360
I don't talk to people about what happened, you know, 18 years ago.
01:34:07.180
We just want them to get out of the way for American success.
01:34:10.020
I mean, do I talk to people, you know, in corporations and media and like, oh, some
01:34:18.580
Yeah, yeah, but it's not like they're just American patriots like I am.
01:34:22.800
So I'm not like sitting there talking about what happened 17 years ago with people.
01:34:28.740
We're trying to like, how do we boost the stock market?
01:34:36.600
You want to talk about CIA, generals, everything.
01:34:39.080
It's like we need to racially bring people together.
01:34:41.520
We need to like try to find out how to not be at war with Islam and try to get radicalism
01:34:45.840
We need to bring everybody together and we need to like be peaceful.
01:34:55.540
It is not the leftist saying race war, religious war.
01:35:05.940
And your mission is to empower people and have them believe they're powerful.
01:35:11.260
And whether they're a Christian or a Muslim or agnostic or gay or straight to unify people
01:35:21.080
So the meetings with the CIA and the Pentagon and the generals and all of them, that's what's
01:35:28.120
There is a real group that realizes humanity is in so much trouble with AI and so much
01:35:36.520
This anti-human mania that was being run by big tech that's still in power, that there
01:35:49.260
And meanwhile, big tech's like, humans are over.
01:35:57.640
I mean, it's like, literally, do we go after these people?
01:36:00.900
The people that aren't sellouts and have souls are like, literally like going, what do
01:36:04.760
They're looking at all the heads of tech right now.
01:36:06.840
They're looking at, and they're just like, Jesus, these people aren't pro-human.
01:36:14.620
We're literally trying to chart a human future.
01:36:19.740
You just did to me what politicians do, and they went away from the question.
01:36:34.440
So your answer, the last question I asked you is, CIA, DEA, nobody else gave you any
01:36:44.720
It was just, you know, when you said, I think something's going on.
01:37:00.200
No, it was obvious that the deep state was going to stage a terror attack.
01:37:09.420
You don't have an opinion on that, on who influenced it on the inside.
01:37:13.260
I mean, I think elements of the U.S. government, elements of the Israeli government, elements
01:37:20.700
But I thought it was, like, just to attack Muslims.
01:37:25.080
It was to, like, take over the existing order, launch a huge war, destabilize the Middle
01:37:31.320
It was ten times more evil than I can even imagine.
01:37:34.300
So I was against it because I thought it was just an anti-Muslim thing.
01:37:38.960
It was to go in and destabilize the Middle East to put the bad guys in charge.
01:37:42.360
Did you get criticism at that time when you were opposing George Bush, where some of
01:37:46.880
your own followers who think you are an alt-right Republican were going against some of the
01:37:52.360
You know, sometimes people put you as an alt-right yourself.
01:37:54.160
No, I had over 120 affiliates, which is a big deal back then.
01:38:01.260
I just said, I don't know what's going on, but the official story's not true.
01:38:09.540
Believe me, I was making a couple million dollars a year when that happened.
01:38:17.160
Because I heard them say, we're going to blow up Building 7 on CBS radio.
01:38:28.200
I didn't know what all was going on, but I just knew that it was happening.
01:38:35.440
So you know the Armenian genocide, the Assyrian genocide.
01:38:49.320
So there was a little bit of loyalty you got for what you did for pushing that.
01:38:52.640
From your end, Armenian genocide and Young Turks.
01:38:56.840
I mean, obviously, you've spoken about it before.
01:39:00.300
My issue with the Young Turks is they're funded by George Soros,
01:39:03.780
who on 60 Minutes said he was a Nazi collaborator.
01:39:07.220
And then there's the weirdness of them being named the Young Turks,
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which was the militia of the Turks that killed a million and a half people.
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And then I just noticed they're always apologists for radical Islam.
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And they're always saying, oh, we're not religious.
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And then I learned that Soros was funding them.
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And I learned that these big banks were funding them.
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And then I learned that people that brought that up and said,
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why are you calling Young Turks they would attack?
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And they would say the Armenian genocide didn't happen
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when Turkish newspapers said they were eradicating all the Christian people in Turkey.
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And so I've had the same Young Turks go after me for year after year after year
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I had the Young Turks fool me at the RNC two years ago.
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They go, oh, you're in this big area with all these broadcasts going on inside the parking garage.
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And I was like, I thought it was a joke at first because they had asked me to come up.
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And I've been on the show like 10 times before.
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And it was like when they set me up and did all that, I was like, well, these people are really bad, man.
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Because he was like, F you, get off the stage, get out of here.
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And she was calling me a big fat F-er and all this stuff.
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And I was like, well, you just invited me up on your stage.
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And I just thank God every day I'm not with those people.
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So, again, I was on their show over the years like more than 10 times.
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And then people kept saying they denied the Armenian genocide.
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And I was like, Jesus, these people are literally carrying this out.
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Do you think they also talk about some theories?
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Well, if you question somebody, they call it a conspiracy theory.
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I mean, if you question anything or the price of whatever, I mean, they ask that.
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So categorically, categorically, they would be in that conspiracy theory category as well.
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All I know is they're force-fed by Google and YouTube.
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And when I went and confronted them after they blew up with me that day at the RNC, they deleted our live videos, like within minutes.
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Because we had video that was saying, oh, come on over.
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They spit Coca-Cola or something out of a drink on me.
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And I'm sitting there while they're doing this.
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And I'm like, you just, and I thought it was a joke.
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Sometimes you get criticism because some people say, well, Alex never bashes Nazis.
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You know, a lot of times they'll say, you know, he is so nice to them.
01:42:28.260
I don't even, Nazis were like people we beat like 70 years ago in World War II.
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It's like a mentally ill joke about I'm being nice to Nazis.
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If you go online and type in Alex Jones, Nazis, all they do is attack me.
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Well, they lost World War II and they're losers.
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But it's like, what do you think of child molesters?
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I think they need to be tracked based on whatever they're doing right now.
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Imagine like being asked, what do you think of child rapers?
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Yeah, but there's a difference with you because you actually are in this world.
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It's like somebody asked me about an insurance policy I sell that maybe I disagree with.
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But I challenge you in this, Nazis are losers, man.
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It's like, hey, Alex, tell me you don't support communists.
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There's no group that attacks me more than the Nazis.
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That's why it's a bizarre statement to ask about Nazis because the average Nazi is a Southern
01:44:00.840
It's like asking me, what do you make of these guys that stole pumpkins last week out of this
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Yeah, but it also gets old on the flip side when every time something happens, you say,
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you know, Hitler did this back in the days and America's doing the same thing.
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So I'm asking the question because sometimes some people-
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Now, it's tens of thousands of articles a month everywhere lying about me, never showing
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what I supposedly said, just claiming I said something.
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And I said, this is clearly just like the Nazis did.
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So I'm pro-Hitler, but I'm criticizing Nazi Germany.
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No, you're not pro-Hitler, but you're criticizing them.
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I don't think Germany's the ultimate evil in the world, but I think it did a lot of bad
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Well, I brought up Germany was bad in World War II.
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You're saying what America's doing is what they're doing.
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National socialism and like killing people that aren't German?
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But when have I, this is the craziness of leftists.
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I challenge you to find anywhere that I support loser Nazis.
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You know how the Nazi websites hate me more than Netanyahu.
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And then Netanyahu, they claim I work for Netanyahu.
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The fake Q movement says I'm this Mossad agent, all this bullshit.
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So imagine, like, from one end, I'm this Israeli agent.
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I don't think you've ever done the Israeli story and been strong on it.
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You've always just been, I've never been there before.
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You're not, they've done some bad things, but they're, you know, they've done a lot of good things.
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It's like, do you like America or do you like Israel?
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For you to address everything that's being accused of you, I'm assuming this is going
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to be viewed by many people around the world who haven't.
01:47:09.460
They call Trump anti-Semitic when he's pro-Israel.
01:47:16.220
You brought up a couple things initially and you said, you know, the media has pretty
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And I said, if you know as much as you know, why haven't they killed you?
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Is it better off to kill the brand and the influence or is it actually to go the other
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And which, which one's going to hurt you more and put more fear in the other people that
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are wanting to speak on the topics that you're talking about?
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But see, I'm not thinking about geopolitical or Machiavelli.
01:47:46.520
That's the real pure path is that I'm not thinking about what's going to happen or looking
01:47:53.080
I'm just trying to tell the truth, promote America, promote freedom and do what has to
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I believe in Trump and he's delivered on what he's saying.
01:48:13.220
And so what am I supposed to do, sit there and like politically try to tinker toy with
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What's more powerful, getting rid of somebody or shutting them down with a voice on what
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What's more powerful is demonizing someone and assassinating their character in public.
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And you think that's what's happening with you?
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But that's okay because I'm playing at the big boy level.
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If you're going to play at the big boy level, the big boy level is Machiavelli.
01:49:01.920
You think Jesus played at the Machiavelli level?
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I don't know if I'm saying Jesus is big boy level.
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I'm saying there's a level above that just being straight up.
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So you think that's the level you're playing, enlightenment level.
01:49:15.600
You're putting yourself at the enlightenment level is what you're saying.
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What does that mean you can't be bought, though?
01:49:49.920
But I wouldn't sell poison to people to get ahead.
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I sell things in T-shirts and books to fund myself.
01:49:56.160
But that's people buying because they believe what I'm doing.
01:50:06.520
But selling things is only fuel to carry out my operation.
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Selling things is fuel to carry out my operations.
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Like, in the hierarchy of needs, money is not the tip of my pyramid.
01:50:20.640
Doing good for humanity and winning is where I want to go.
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And so I'll sell T-shirts, books, videos, water filtration, air filtration,
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and you tell me the first thing that comes to your mind.
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Or a little bit longer than the first thing that comes to your mind.
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Your brain is a fast brain, so let's see what you're going to say.
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He is one of just, he's our head of everything and he's, he's dialed in to the real deal.
01:52:10.620
And then as soon as he comes in, grass and flowers and power, just everything's waiting
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Alex, assume anybody there that's a decision maker is watching this.
01:52:29.660
I'd say the decision makers are already watching.
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And I think the decision makers already know the choice.
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They're just afraid to stand up to this anti-human thing.
01:52:39.480
And they're afraid that the public isn't willing to make the right decisions.
01:52:46.720
And so people have to decide which side they're on.
01:52:51.600
They say those astronauts walk out from the space station or from the space shuttle.
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It's like you're looking down at the Earth, 10,000 miles, looking up to infinity.
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And it's like they say there's nothing like it.
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And if you just do that, everything else follows.
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If you ask that question over and over again, it's because I don't fear them.
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And that's scary because they've not been there.
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And they're going to face God eye to eye with pure consciousness.
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And they're going to have to decide who they serve.
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So today, you get a chance to decide for yourself from everything you heard.
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We addressed every single topic that we can think about.
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Where are you at with the whole situation that's taking place?
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Should Facebook, YouTube, everybody say you should come back on?
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Alex, thank you for taking time to come on Valuetainment.
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Thank you for making the time to come on Valuetainment.
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I watch these zombies walk around looking at their phones.
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People keep thinking I'm hurt by being ostracized from hell.
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That's the reverse of how it's supposed to work.
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