Episode 220: How To Build A Great Sales Team
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In order to be a great sales leader, you have to learn how to drive better than the rest. In this episode, we discuss the 4 steps you need to learn in order to become a better sales leader. 1. Have moral authority 2. Be a coachable 3. Learn how to motivate 4. Get the drivers
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30 seconds, one time for the underdog, ignition sequence start, let me see you put em up, reach
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the sky, touch the stars up above, cause it's one time for the underdog, one time for the
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You're listening to the Valuetainment Podcast where we discuss various strategies that will
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help you scale your business to the next level.
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I'm your host Patrick Bedivid and today again I'm talking to the sales leaders.
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Listen, we're going to talk about what you need to do to scale, to scale your sales team.
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So whether you're in sales, you run a sales team, or you're a business owner that's dealing
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So look, I mean in the evolution of business you're going to go through these four steps.
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I've been saying this for a while, you've got to learn how to go from employee to sales,
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then you've got to learn how to go from being a salesperson to become a sales manager, sales
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leader, then you become a business owner, then you become a CEO.
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But just like back in the days, in the 60s, 70s, nobody went to the top of a company without
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learning how to sell, I want you to take that approach for yourself and your business and
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So what is the secret to scaling your sales force or your sales team?
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See a lot of times, I see a lot of guys that are great motivators.
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And motivational speakers, as effective as it is, motivation is simply temporary enthusiasm.
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Inspirational speakers could be long-term enthusiasm, but both of them have a problem.
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So imagine I'm sitting there and a guy's saying, you can do it, you're amazing, go get
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I feel so, I can't wait to go home and do, I don't know what to do when I go home.
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And the inspirational speaker, we're going to go out there and make a difference.
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I want to go out there and be part of this long-term, but man, what do I do to make money
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Drivers learn how to get people to get results so they stick around with the inspiration to
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And today, I'm going to talk to you about the secret to how great sales leaders and
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great entrepreneurs who run their sales team learn how to drive better than the rest.
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First things first, number one, in order to be a great driver of a sales team, you've
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You've got to be somebody that I am willing to give you permission to drive me.
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I was at an insurance meeting a couple weeks ago, and one of the conversations that was
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brought up about a company, I said, what's going on with that company?
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He says, that company doesn't have a good sales leader, and because of that, they absolutely
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On Friday, I'm meeting a guy that runs a business doing $100 million a year.
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And he says, one of my companies collapsed, and it doesn't work anymore.
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He says, can you give me some good sales leaders?
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Because my sales, ever since I bought the company, for $80 million, the company he bought,
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Because he hires a sales leader that talks a big game, they're great motivational inspiration,
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You're in work every day, so you've got your responsibility, their responsibility.
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Here's what I'm directing you how to do, Bobby.
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I'm willing to be a student, the person that you're leading.
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Because you cannot direct somebody and drive somebody without being honest.
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Sometimes motivational speakers, and sometimes inspirational speakers, all they want to do
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And you can't just have an environment where everybody's just feeling good all the time.
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It's like being high all the time, but no one's moving.
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A driver is going to say, listen, let me simplify it for you.
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And if you go like this on the phones, you are never going to make it in sales.
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Now, you can be good, because I saw some of the things you said it was good, but right
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Your work ethic, if you go like this, nothing's going to be happening, because I see your suspect
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If a car breaks, every single day your car breaks down, something's going on, I can't help you with
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So you've got to be willing to be honest, the driver, and the other person has got to
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And by the way, if they're not, then that's a whole different step we'll be talking about.
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If you have moral authority, people are willing to listen to you.
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Moral authority comes with prior success, existing success.
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Everyone knows the types of people you've developed that have also made money and have
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So there's a reputation that anybody who works with you, they become successful in sales.
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Anybody that gets close to you, they become successful in sales.
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And then everybody wants to learn what your secret is to teach in everybody that maybe
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Luis, who did you tell me was your favorite player of all time?
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And you obviously are not a big LeBron James fan, but you're a big Vince Carter fan.
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So I had Bradford, you're my buddy from the Army, and Luis start going through a list of
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And you couldn't come up, we had Sam Mitch, Decent, Sam Mitch was a good coach, some of
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these other guys, but nobody that was a Popovich, Riley, or a Phil.
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A Carter has got to be coached by some of these guys.
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Now some people will say he was lazy, he didn't have discipline, he partied, the ladies, all
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I think a lot of other guys are like that as well.
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Sometimes moral authority with a coach that knows how to drive and get the best out of people
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is what the differentiator is between you not making money and you making money.
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So you, as a salesperson that wants to build a sales team, you've got to learn how to be
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Number two, you get judged in your entire life.
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We get judged on our intuition of our friends, of our girlfriend, of our spouse, of our career,
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of the place we live, of the place we build, of every single thing, you are judged on who
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So in the world of sales leadership, you're not going to pick everybody and say, I want
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I want everybody to go out there and say, great, motivate, inspire, but you've got the
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one guy that wants it more than everybody else and he's willing to work 70 hours a week.
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They want to go to the nightclub on Friday night and Saturday night and I don't have time
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I want to work with this killer here and build him up.
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Lincoln, many, many years ago, he's sitting there, he's like, listen, I need one general
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So he signs the responsibility to a guy named General McClellan.
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Many times in America, you go to different roads, you'll see McClellan Avenue, McClellan
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McClellan had one thing that he was very good known for.
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His soldiers were by far the best trained soldiers out of all the generals he had.
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McClellan never thought he was ready to go to war.
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He was a little bit too paranoid to go to war and go to battle because what if?
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So this guy, Lincoln, some people say the greatest president of all time in America,
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I don't know if he was a good one or not, but the point is, Lincoln gets credit for picking
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Grant, Grant gets credit for having the guts that McClellan didn't have to go to war and
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Similar thing that happens in the world of sales as well.
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You're watching me saying, well, Pat, I made $300,000 last year.
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I want to teach six other people how to do real estate.
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I want to teach 20 other people how to do the same thing.
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And you got two or three people you're watching that you're currently training that you want
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Can you imagine if one day you're driving a Ferrari and you go into the beach and you're
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at this house and you hear the waves and it's just so soothing.
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And these 67-year-olds are like, I need my medicine, man.
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A guy sitting with a room of 20-year-old, 25-year-old salespeople that want to run through
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the wall and go wrap the house and the speaker.
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Can you imagine one day being able to retire and you go on the golf course and you got the
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best coach and you have this swing and the handicap is so impressive and these 20, 25-year-olds
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The language you speak to the audience based on who you're driving will dictate also how
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First things first, people will say, well, you know, a lot of people are driven by money.
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So let's just say I'm sitting with this guy and I'm trying to figure out if this is a guy
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for me to work with and I want to pick him as somebody I want to develop as a salesperson.
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I'll say, so Johnny, tell me, what do you want to do?
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Man, I want to make a lot of money and I want to be financially free.
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Well, you know, I want to make a lot of money because I want to be free.
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Well, you know, I just feel like, you know, I saw my parents go through a lot of struggles
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Okay, so tell me, what does financial freedom look like to you?
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You know, I just think, you know, the day my mom and dad don't have to work anymore and
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my mom's got some health issues and the other day I came home and some of the medication
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that we were getting, our health insurance doesn't cover anymore because my dad changed
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his job so those medications for my mom are $800 a month.
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My mom is not feeling that good and then I see tears.
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If you think it's just the money because this guy wants a Mercedes-Benz, you've absolutely
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His reasoning is his mother needs medication, $800 a month to pay for that and the father
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He got a new job that doesn't give him benefits for another six months and that hurts him.
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So now I know exactly what this guy's driven by.
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I got to now drive him as a leader and help him get there because I have the moral authority.
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I can direct him and tell him, hey, we're going to go do this together if you're committed.
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If you're willing to put the work in, be coachable, willing to learn, be a good student,
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and I'm going to show you exactly how to go out there and make that money so you can get
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So dollar tied to why until I get the medication for mom that costs $800 a month, bingo.
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Four levels of lifestyle you've got to realize.
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I work at Bally's so I can survive to pay the bills so my dad will stop having heart attacks
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because he's stressed out trying to support everybody.
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And I can make this money so I can take care of the family.
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I want to pay off my credit card debt because I'm so stressed out.
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I want to buy some nice cars to impress everybody.
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And I went out there and I became the guy that put all these guys in my car and we'd go
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We'd go to Newport, LA, Hollywood, San Diego, Orange County.
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I've been to every single one of them from 99 to 2003.
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If you've gone there, we probably ran into each other.
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Freedom was, I want to become financially free.
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And once I learned that, and then it was purpose, history, then that was a higher level.
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So you need to know at what level people are at.
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You won't know this until you talk to them and you keep asking them why.
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You're trying to tell me that guy thinks he's better than me?
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Then the other guy is driven by breaking records.
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Every single record, I want to break all the records.
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Somewhat competitive, but it's about, you know, I want to do something that's never been
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What we're doing here, we're going to be able to raise a million dollars so we can go back
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What we're doing here, we're going to be able to make a lot of money so we can build homes to help
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What we're doing here, we're going to be able to teach the spirit of capitalism and
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free enterprise to millions of people around the world so they realize a person out there
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Mom and dad, they're trying to figure out their own lives.
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I'm a little kid and I realize in the world of capitalism, a regular average guy like
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me can rise up and say, boom, let's go get him, baby, if you've got a dream.
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Person says, let's just say I buy into this cause.
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Your job as the leader with moral authority, your job is to show the salesperson, if we
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go and fight this cause, you individually will get XYZ and you'll win big for yourself and
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collectively we'll do something that's never been done before.
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But I need to also know what's going to happen to my life, not just a collective effort.
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And last but not least, I can do this for hours.
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And I just enemies, you know, people that see me as a target, enemies.
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An enemy could have been a spirit in you that you're trying to get rid of.
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An enemy could be a lot of different things that you're dealing with.
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It's not just because of one thing or one person or competition.
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An enemy could be a lot of different things that you're dealing with.
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A lot of people say, well, you know, there is no enemy in basketball.
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If your name is Cleveland Cavaliers, guess who your number one enemy is?
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Golden State's got to get through Cleveland if you want that championship ring.
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You may be watching this right now saying, I don't care about that.
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I'm talking to you how to go from sales to sales leader.
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Sometimes people make the mistake thinking just because you're not competitive that other
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Sometimes you think because you are so almighty and, you know, you don't care about what other
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You're just about, I want to be the best that I can be.
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So how are you going to drive somebody that's not wired by that?
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There were certain kids in high school that wanted to fight one-on-one.
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Then there were kids that could care less about fighting.
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But if you came to their group and you said something to their group and a brawl broke
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out and somebody got bullied, this guy shows up out of nowhere coming and saying, you don't
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ever think about bullying this kid here and whoops his tail.
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He's driven by a different thing than the other guy saying, I want to fight you one-on-one.
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Then if you want to be a sales leader, you got to learn how to drive everybody else that's
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By the way, that's what great leaders do, period.
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Popovich, Riley, MLK, presidents, leaders, generals, CEOs, Hollywood.
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You talk to Hollywood actors when they were working under a director that said, boom, said
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And you and I watched the movie and we're like, oh my gosh, what an incredible actor.
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You don't know what the director fed that actor's mind during that moment where he said, come
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How did it feel when that person talked to your mom like that?
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How did it feel when that person talked to your dad like that?
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I want to see that feeling on the camera right now.
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So after this here, once we figure this part out, I think number four is here.
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You tie the reasons to a result and a deadline.
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You need to do XYZ amount of calls, knocking doors.
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Whatever you want to call the activity in your business.
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And you need to do this many every single day, every single week for the next three months.
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And if you do it every single day, every single week, deadline every day, deadline every week,
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If you do this, 90 days from now you're going to make this.
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And your mom will never worry about the $800 for my mom because you've learned how to make that money
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You think this whole thing is about making money and becoming famous.
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It's about getting people to experience the juice in their own lives.
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So number one is, tie their reasons to a result and a deadline.
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So, you know, if you want to make a million dollars, that's backup.
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If you want to make, you break it down and you give me a formula for me to know what I
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need to do this month, next month, next month, next month, next month.
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And then when you start working with some people that are people you pick, who are solid people
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you pick to be able to work with, then it comes down to your accountability.
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Then it comes down to you studying their trends.
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Then it comes down to you believing in them, injecting belief in them, seeing who they could
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be, re-reminding them of why they're doing this.
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Just constantly re-reminding people what they're capable of doing, and three months, six months,
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12 months, 24 months down the line, five years down, you're going to look at them and say,
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oh my gosh, I cannot believe that just took place right now.
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I just had a guy, Rodolfo and Ceci Vargas, husband and wife, from El Salvador, come to
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America, he works at Sears, he was an economist in El Salvador, barely making any money.
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They come to the States, you work and then go from making $20,000 a year income to making
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$175,000 in a month, injecting belief, and they're now, man, they're somebody, you follow
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these guys, they get you in motion when you see some of these stories.
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And these types of stories go on and on and on and on and on, in many different stories,
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as long as you learn the secret to scaling your sales team, which is learning how to drive
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So having said that, again, I'm not going too much into details, because it'd be a one-day
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I'm giving you, you know, bite sizes for you to think about it and process it on your
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own and go figure out what you need to be doing by doing the proper research and find
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