Valuetainment - Episode 252： Dropout or Stay in School？

00:00:00.000 30 seconds, one time for the underdog, ignition sequence start, let me see you put em up, reach

00:00:09.220 the sky, turn the stars up above, cause it's one time for the underdog, one time for the

00:00:16.220 underdog.

00:00:17.240 I'm Patrick Ovedev, your host of Value Team, and today we're going to talk about a topic

00:00:20.680 that I ended up writing a book about, which is, should you drop out or should you stay

00:00:25.620 in school and what things we could do in our current educational system to improve it?

00:00:31.120 I think one of the biggest challenges we have today is peer pressure, and I'll explain to

00:00:34.940 you peer pressure.

00:00:36.260 A lot of times we think college is what we have to do because the kids have a peer pressure

00:00:40.800 of my friends getting accepted to UC Berkeley or UT or FSU and Jacksonville or NYU, so I

00:00:47.820 got to go also because my friends going to college, forget about that peer pressure, I'm

00:00:51.520 completely okay with that peer pressure because kids got to compete and they got to learn about

00:00:55.320 competition.

00:00:55.940 The peer pressure that I do have a problem with, and I think no one is addressing, is

00:00:59.800 the peer pressure of parents having to keep up against other parents.

00:01:05.620 So it's almost like a brother saying, well, my sister's kids went to such and such school,

00:01:10.900 I have to make sure my kids do this because my kids have to do better than my brother's

00:01:13.900 kids or my sister's kids or my best friend's kids and all this stuff, and I don't care how

00:01:18.420 much it's going to cost me to go into because they pay $200,000, honey, we'll refinance and

00:01:22.720 take out a mortgage to pay for our son's school because we have to say, our son went to USC,

00:01:27.820 that family may be making $600,000 a year, this family can't afford to do refinance because

00:01:33.540 that's a retirement money, but through peer pressure, they do it just to keep up with their

00:01:38.040 best friend or their sister or their brother and they pay for that college.

00:01:41.300 I have a problem with that.

00:01:42.760 And the last peer pressure that I believe is those who work in the educational space,

00:01:48.560 those who are professors, teachers, a dean, and you have to protect your argument because

00:01:54.640 sometimes if you're single, you have to make a case why it makes sense to become single.

00:01:59.680 If you're married, you have to make a case why everybody needs to be married. 0.57

00:02:02.660 You ever hear the story, married people recruit married people, single people recruit single 0.67

00:02:07.140 people, divorced people recruit them.

00:02:08.520 It doesn't matter.

00:02:09.280 We recruit because we want to make a case that we made the right choice doing what we did.

00:02:13.260 That's totally fine.

00:02:14.780 Sometimes educators are, because you're only in that world, the only thing you think is

00:02:20.820 the most valuable thing is education.

00:02:22.840 And that's really not the case.

00:02:24.360 It's cost on a lot of families, a lot of trials, a lot of tribulations.

00:02:28.920 And I think it needs to be addressed.

00:02:30.560 And I'm going to make a case for it today.

00:02:31.840 And I'll be almost like an attorney and I'll make my case.

00:02:34.860 You be the judge, you be the jury, and you can take all the shots you want at me.

00:02:38.120 I will address all your questions.

00:02:39.940 I post a question on my website, patrickbaydavid.com.

00:02:42.620 I got tons of comments about this and I'll read some of the people's comments on the

00:02:46.280 bottom as well.

00:02:46.800 And then I have a questionnaire that I'm going to share with you for you to take before you

00:02:50.500 go to college.

00:02:51.180 I'll share that with you at the end as well.

00:02:52.420 So let me get right into it.

00:02:53.340 So first, first things first, who, in my opinion, should stay in school and continue school

00:02:59.920 because they need college?

00:03:01.200 One, anybody who's trying to become a professional, meaning a medical doctor, dentist, nurse, RN,

00:03:07.800 you need school and engineering, civil, any kind of thing that's engineering, you need to

00:03:12.220 go to school, lawyer, you got to go to school.

00:03:15.260 You want to go into politics, all that stuff.

00:03:16.580 You got to go into school to become a lawyer.

00:03:19.280 Or if you're playing sports, if you're playing sports for a school and they've given you a

00:03:23.720 full-ride scholarship, you may as well take advantage of it because you have a shot at

00:03:26.960 going to the next level.

00:03:28.040 I think you definitely need to stay in school.

00:03:29.820 Second point, if you're in school and want to drop out but you're lazy, I absolutely don't

00:03:35.520 recommend it.

00:03:36.360 I know a lot of kids that say, Pat, I also want to drop out and I want to stay in school.

00:03:40.080 And I'll ask them, what's the most you've ever worked in a week?

00:03:42.700 Well, I used to have a job.

00:03:43.480 I worked 28 hours in a week.

00:03:44.840 Stay in school.

00:03:45.800 You still don't know about work ethic because if you don't know how to work hard, you got

00:03:49.280 to be honest with yourself, you got to stay in school to learn discipline and hard work.

00:03:53.700 If you at least know how to get a degree, maybe they'll teach you about discipline and

00:03:56.740 hard work.

00:03:57.960 Three, if you're in school and you have a habit of not finishing things, stay in school.

00:04:02.400 At least finish that thing if you have a habit of not finishing things.

00:04:05.180 Four, if you're accepted to an Ivy League school, I think it's a good idea to go to an

00:04:09.060 Ivy League school.

00:04:09.660 Not everybody gets a chance to go to Ivy League school.

00:04:11.520 If you go to Yale, Harvard, any of those, you ought to continue there because that's a

00:04:15.120 pretty big deal to be accepted to some of those schools.

00:04:17.160 Five, full-ride scholarship and you are fully clear about what you want to do with your life,

00:04:21.320 stay in school.

00:04:22.340 And I already covered the sports part.

00:04:23.820 Now, who should drop out?

00:04:24.840 My opinion.

00:04:25.580 One, you got a strong work ethic and you're not clear about what you're doing, drop out.

00:04:30.400 Two, if you're completely undecided with your career path, don't waste your parents'

00:04:36.560 money.

00:04:37.740 See, a lot of times, undecided kids rarely use their own money.

00:04:41.720 Undecided kids usually use their parents' money is what they do. 1.00

00:04:45.320 And if you're a parent, I highly not discourage you supporting an undecided kid going to college

00:04:51.380 because that's what you're supposed to do.

00:04:52.820 Think about it this way.

00:04:54.740 Imagine if your son or daughter comes up to you and says, mom, I'm in love.

00:04:59.940 I'm going to propose.

00:05:01.580 You know, mom, I'm thinking about getting married.

00:05:04.920 Okay.

00:05:05.640 Do you love this girl?

00:05:06.660 I think I love this girl.

00:05:08.260 You think you love this girl?

00:05:09.120 I think I love this girl.

00:05:10.220 I mean, she's nice.

00:05:10.980 She's cool.

00:05:11.960 We like, both of us like the Raiders.

00:05:13.660 I don't know why, but we both like the Raiders.

00:05:15.540 It's kind of cool.

00:05:16.500 We like the same things.

00:05:17.680 I think this will kind of work out.

00:05:19.860 Mom, we're thinking about getting married in September and we're thinking about getting

00:05:23.040 married at Hilton.

00:05:24.320 We did the numbers.

00:05:25.160 It's going to cost about $70,000.

00:05:26.840 Can you guys help us out?

00:05:27.940 What would you say to that?

00:05:29.400 If you said, there's no way in the world we would help pay for that wedding, then why

00:05:32.780 are you paying for your kids going to college when they're undecided?

00:05:35.660 What's the difference?

00:05:37.100 It's an undecided decision that you're funding.

00:05:40.140 Why are we funding an undecided decision?

00:05:42.540 That kid needs to learn and figure something out for life and then come back to school.

00:05:47.460 Whoever said people have to go to school from 18 to 22, who came out with that rule?

00:05:51.640 Nobody did.

00:05:52.560 You can always figure life out from 18 to 22, go do some stuff and then come back and go

00:05:56.480 to school from 22 to 26.

00:05:58.100 You've got plenty of time, right?

00:05:59.880 But if it's undecided, I don't fund undecided things with my kids.

00:06:04.880 Next, if you're great in sales and you have a gift of gap and you have the hard work, again,

00:06:11.320 you're not clear about what you want to do with college, you can drop out.

00:06:14.600 If you're disciplined, you know you're disciplined, you work out, you take care of your body, you're

00:06:19.600 typically always good about delivering and all that other stuff.

00:06:22.620 When somebody says do this, you keep your work, you're going to be okay to drop out of

00:06:25.700 school.

00:06:25.920 If you're extremely competitive, absolutely competitive, you're going to make it.

00:06:29.980 You don't necessarily need to go to college.

00:06:32.560 If you have an easy time making friends, talking to strangers, people like to hire people like

00:06:37.480 that who know how to make friends and you're charismatic, charming, all that stuff, you

00:06:40.840 can drop out of college as long as you have a strong work ethic.

00:06:43.640 Or if you have an opportunity to work on somebody that's willing to mentor you, they're willing

00:06:47.080 to coach you and know what they're knowing themselves.

00:06:49.660 If someone's willing to do that, you will, let me put it to you in the simplest way possible.

00:06:55.380 Being mentored by somebody who is absolutely established and successful is worth more than

00:07:00.760 getting an MBA from the greatest school in the world.

00:07:03.640 Let me say it one more time.

00:07:05.020 Being mentored by somebody who is absolutely successful and has done very well for themselves

00:07:10.080 is worth more than you going to the greatest school in the world.

00:07:13.000 If that person's willing to teach you what they know.

00:07:15.360 So that's who I think ought to consider dropping out.

00:07:18.260 Now, why drop out?

00:07:20.520 Let's talk about why drop out.

00:07:21.720 So I talk about who should stay in school, who should drop out, but why drop out?

00:07:24.700 Let's talk about that.

00:07:25.920 My problem with school, here's a problem that I have with school.

00:07:28.120 I'm going to give you first my mathematical argument.

00:07:30.160 So watch the numbers here, okay?

00:07:33.020 In 1971, the average house was worth $23,900.

00:07:39.540 Let me say it one more time.

00:07:40.360 The average house in 1971 was worth $23,900.

00:07:47.240 Today, the average house is worth $281,500.

00:07:53.000 That means it's doubled roughly 12 times.

00:07:55.920 Pay attention to the double number.

00:07:57.700 So what a house was worth in 71, it's doubled 12 times.

00:08:00.380 Now, our income in 1971 was $10,600 in 1971.

00:08:05.800 Our income today, according to Department of Labor, is $53,657, which means our income's

00:08:12.760 doubled five times.

00:08:14.460 So our income's doubled five times, but the cost of a house has doubled 12 times.

00:08:18.640 Now, stay with me here.

00:08:20.100 The average cost of a four-year tuition to a non-profit, to a non-profit, private non-profit

00:08:26.540 university, four-year, average cost per year was $1831 in 1971.

00:08:31.440 Matter of fact, Harvard was $2,600.

00:08:35.260 I'll put all the LinkedIn information on the bottom.

00:08:37.480 $2,600.

00:08:38.480 But the average university was $1831.

00:08:41.060 Today, in 2015, the average tuition to a non-profit, private school is $31,231.

00:08:48.440 That's 17 times double is what we're talking about.

00:08:51.980 17 times, it's doubled.

00:08:54.200 A public college per year was, public four-year college was $500 per year.

00:09:00.240 A public today is $91,339.

00:09:03.060 That's an 18 times double that I'm giving you.

00:09:05.300 This is a CNBC article with cost of living for college.

00:09:08.420 So let me get this straight.

00:09:09.720 Tuition has doubled 17 or 18 times.

00:09:12.980 Cost of a house has doubled 12 times.

00:09:15.600 Our income's doubled five times.

00:09:17.520 And parents are still pressured to pay for the schooling of their kids and use their own

00:09:22.120 retirement money and count on Social Security, which is probably not going to be able to be

00:09:27.460 activated at the age of 65 because when they first came out with Social Security, when they

00:09:31.780 came out with the age of 62, people were only living to 62.

00:09:35.220 So they were not expecting people to live.

00:09:37.400 So now parents have to use up their money for kids' college, education, retirement, later

00:09:40.740 on have to work till 75, 80 years old because we're living longer.

00:09:43.720 And you know who gets stuck with that?

00:09:45.100 Who do you think has to support parents then?

00:09:47.280 Kids then have to support parents, which the ripple effect could cause kids to get a divorce.

00:09:52.760 One, parents, do you want your kids to get a divorce? 0.97

00:09:55.580 And two, kids, do you want to take care of your mommy and daddy for the rest of your

00:09:58.220 lives?

00:09:58.840 That's a serious decision that's got to be made on both parties.

00:10:01.640 Now let me give you another number here that bothers me.

00:10:03.780 With college, it's become a business.

00:10:05.660 It's become an epidemic, right?

00:10:07.560 Here's another one.

00:10:09.420 Average kid spends $1,200 a year in books.

00:10:11.560 $1,200 a year in books.

00:10:12.880 Some textbooks are $200 a book.

00:10:15.540 I went and got a hold of the most expensive book, $200.

00:10:19.080 Contacted my publisher.

00:10:20.080 I said, how much would a book like this cost if I wanted to make $5,000 of this copy of

00:10:24.820 this book?

00:10:25.480 They looked at it.

00:10:26.460 They came back.

00:10:27.060 They said, $6 a book.

00:10:28.840 I said, let me get this straight.

00:10:30.540 So this school gets the book.

00:10:32.920 It costs them $6 to make it.

00:10:35.140 And they expect our kids and parents to pay $200 for this.

00:10:38.520 That's 33 times more on what it costs to make money.

00:10:43.040 Schools want to say capitalism sucks.

00:10:45.580 I mean, schools are using the capitalistic system at a whole different place.

00:10:48.840 I understand wholesale and markup, but marking up from $6 to $200, that's embarrassing.

00:10:55.880 Apple computers doesn't do that, let alone a college university is charging that kind

00:11:01.100 of money.

00:11:01.580 That's pathetic.

00:11:02.560 And you ought to share this with other people.

00:11:04.340 And the stats on these numbers are also on the bottom.

00:11:06.400 That's also in that same study done by CNBC.

00:11:09.620 Cost of books have gone up 82%.

00:11:11.780 82% since 2002.

00:11:14.920 That's three times the rate of inflation.

00:11:17.280 If I could invest into college books, I would buy the stock.

00:11:20.820 College books.

00:11:21.700 We'd become millionaires if we did something like that.

00:11:24.060 That's what the cost is.

00:11:25.540 I also believe colleges are producing followers.

00:11:27.620 I don't believe they're creating leaders.

00:11:29.460 It's a lot of just somebody talks, talks, talks, talks.

00:11:31.620 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:11:32.820 It's a lot of creating followers.

00:11:34.380 I'm not saying everybody.

00:11:35.760 I went to school and they talked.

00:11:37.020 There's a lot of great professors out there.

00:11:38.620 I'm not talking everybody.

00:11:40.300 But generally, the system isn't producing what it's supposed to be producing.

00:11:44.720 And it's costing way too much money to produce the results that they're telling us they're

00:11:48.540 producing.

00:11:49.580 Four, it's become a political game.

00:11:51.280 Many universities, it's all about a recruiting to a political agenda that they have.

00:11:56.180 Read this book.

00:11:56.780 Do this, this.

00:11:57.520 And then they recruit to a certain political party.

00:11:59.460 And you've got to kind of pay attention to that as well.

00:12:01.600 Five, colleges have become a business.

00:12:03.700 I don't know why we need to go to college for four years.

00:12:08.100 You know, kids tell me, so, Pat, do you think if I'm majoring in business, I should go to

00:12:11.000 school and get my four-year degree?

00:12:12.720 I said, I don't believe in four years.

00:12:14.560 And I was even with Mark Cuban a couple weeks ago.

00:12:16.680 And I asked him, I said, what do you think about people who say you should drop out of

00:12:18.720 college?

00:12:19.000 He says, I think they're idiots.

00:12:20.480 They don't know what they're talking about.

00:12:21.480 I said, why?

00:12:22.440 He said, because you should go to college because you've got to learn accounting.

00:12:25.620 You've got to learn these classes.

00:12:26.800 I said, so let me restate my question.

00:12:28.640 Do you believe college, kids need to go to college to get a four-year degree?

00:12:31.920 Or do they need to go to college?

00:12:33.200 Did you take these classes?

00:12:34.360 He says, no, then you're probably right.

00:12:35.700 They just need to take these classes.

00:12:37.200 You can watch that take of what he says in the interview, Patrick Bedeva, Mark Cuban.

00:12:40.820 We'll put the link on the bottom.

00:12:41.940 You'll see that part when he says that as well.

00:12:43.940 I don't think somebody who's majoring in business needs to take physics.

00:12:47.960 I don't think that.

00:12:49.140 I think some of the mandatory classes kids need to take to get a four-year degree is a

00:12:52.380 waste of time.

00:12:53.380 I would rather have our educational system be changed and we rally behind it.

00:12:57.960 And instead of requiring four years to get a bachelor's degree in business, why don't we make

00:13:01.240 it 18 months?

00:13:01.880 You know, instead of taking four years.

00:13:04.320 I understand if you're going to go do surgery on my heart, you need a lot of years and watching

00:13:07.920 a lot because a lot of details.

00:13:09.220 I understand this is details, dentists.

00:13:11.400 I understand building a structure is a lot of details.

00:13:13.240 That's years.

00:13:13.820 You're not going to learn it in six, 12, 18 months.

00:13:15.540 I get that.

00:13:16.420 But business, four years?

00:13:17.740 What for?

00:13:18.580 What for?

00:13:19.100 It just makes no sense to me, right?

00:13:20.620 What a lot of these courses that we take.

00:13:22.740 I'm not a fan of both parents and students getting into a major that think about it.

00:13:27.240 Whether the parent pays for it, it's going to take them years to pay or they're going

00:13:31.060 to take years away from retirement.

00:13:32.420 If the kid's got to pay for it, it could take them 20 years to pay for it.

00:13:35.940 We deal with student loans.

00:13:37.660 And I see how many kids and how many marriages are just stuck paying $1,500 a month, $1,100 1.00

00:13:41.500 a month, $900 a month of their college loan.

00:13:44.020 That affects the marriage. 0.78

00:13:45.100 That affects buying a house.

00:13:46.440 That affects a lot of other things.

00:13:47.600 Just because they were told, you got to go get a four-year degree.

00:13:50.740 You know what's the weirdest things about most people that I sit with that have degrees?

00:13:54.080 Their jobs generally has nothing to do with their degree.

00:13:57.520 I hire people left and right with my company.

00:14:00.040 We have 2,000 agents roughly that work for our firm in 30-something states.

00:14:03.980 Most people that have a degree, their current job has nothing to do with the degree they

00:14:08.080 got.

00:14:08.640 Nothing to do with the degree they got.

00:14:10.400 So now, let me continue.

00:14:13.000 Someone will say here, Patrick, I don't care what you say.

00:14:16.580 I'm a parent.

00:14:17.600 And I'm going to pay for my kids' schooling no matter what, because we have a tradition

00:14:21.020 in our family.

00:14:21.880 Everybody went to USC.

00:14:23.120 Everybody went to University of Texas.

00:14:24.820 We're all alumni of Texas A&M.

00:14:26.520 We're all alumni of Florida State.

00:14:27.860 We're all alumni of NYU.

00:14:29.360 I totally get it.

00:14:30.420 Totally fine.

00:14:31.480 How much money did you make last year?

00:14:32.820 Well, we do well.

00:14:33.780 We make somewhere around a million dollars.

00:14:36.520 Ma'am, you make a million dollars.

00:14:38.220 You can afford to risk $200 with $200,000 of kids going to school.

00:14:42.260 Is that really going to affect your retirement?

00:14:43.560 No, not really.

00:14:44.060 We're set forever.

00:14:45.560 An average family making $150,000 a year, $200,000 of a four-year period, that's a lot

00:14:50.360 of money.

00:14:51.180 So this message isn't for the people that are making a million a year and up.

00:14:53.780 We can afford that.

00:14:54.800 I'm talking general families who are sacrificing every single thing to give everything they

00:15:00.200 got for their kids.

00:15:01.360 And the kid goes to school and is undecided and either drops out and they're still responsible

00:15:06.000 for that debt and they're stuck with that savings.

00:15:07.800 That's the problem that I have with any of that stuff.

00:15:12.060 Now, let me get into the next part here.

00:15:14.140 Why are we going to college in the first place?

00:15:16.780 So parents say, well, I want my kids to go to college.

00:15:19.920 Kids say, I want to go to college.

00:15:21.280 Why do I want to go to college?

00:15:22.320 Well, I don't want my kids to miss out on the fun partying side of life and college and

00:15:28.420 fraternity and all this other stuff.

00:15:30.380 I don't really think you need to go to college to party.

00:15:33.240 You don't need a degree to learn how to party.

00:15:34.760 Quite frankly, I went to the army and my army stories of partying, every time I talk to

00:15:40.080 other kids who went to school and they tell me they're crazy partying, it's not even close

00:15:43.680 to the way we partied in the army.

00:15:45.000 It's just night and day.

00:15:45.660 So if you want your kids to really party, send them to the military.

00:15:48.680 They'll really learn how to party when they're in uniform and how people look at them in

00:15:52.500 uniform.

00:15:52.920 I'm sure your son's going to really appreciate it if you send them to the army. 0.88

00:15:56.220 So the fun part, it doesn't require a lot of discipline to party.

00:15:59.540 Thursday night is lady nights for anybody. 0.99

00:16:01.620 Thursday night, ladies night, it's pretty much in every single state in America. 1.00

00:16:05.200 Kids are going to find a way to party from 18 to 25.

00:16:07.660 That's just going to happen.

00:16:09.280 Two, well, I want them to get the experience.

00:16:11.880 What experience?

00:16:12.840 Quite frankly, I have a challenge with one thing with college.

00:16:15.580 My challenge with college is we're being taught someone on business that's never ran a business

00:16:21.260 before.

00:16:22.140 Why would somebody teach business that's never ran a business before?

00:16:25.880 Why would somebody teach some things that they've never done before?

00:16:28.840 Why would we want our kids to learn what if the setup was a completely different way of

00:16:33.220 a setup?

00:16:34.340 Well, then maybe that makes sense.

00:16:35.480 And I'll talk about that a little later on in the subjects that I think we ought to teach.

00:16:38.660 You know, I want my kids to go to college because they get to network in college.

00:16:42.400 Really?

00:16:42.860 Yeah, I think they get to network in college and meet other people.

00:16:46.400 Networking and meeting other people is not because of college.

00:16:49.660 It's because your kid is good at doing that.

00:16:51.500 I promise you, if a person is not good at networking, they're not going to be good at networking

00:16:55.340 if we put them in the military, if we put them in college, if we put them anywhere.

00:16:58.020 They're just not going to be good at networking.

00:16:59.860 Now, if you think they're going to get better at networking because they're going to drink

00:17:02.380 beer and loosen up, well, that's a different story.

00:17:04.800 Anybody can loosen up by drinking a beer and networking better.

00:17:07.660 I'm talking purely to network.

00:17:10.480 Networking is something a good person is good at doing.

00:17:12.900 I was in the military.

00:17:13.980 There were soldiers that never spoke to anybody.

00:17:15.760 And I was in the military.

00:17:16.600 There were people that talked to everybody.

00:17:18.880 Same goes with college.

00:17:20.940 To get a good job nowadays, quite frankly, with the amount of inventory of people that

00:17:27.340 have degrees on Courier Builder or Monster or any of that stuff, I don't think we're lacking

00:17:32.180 the amount of people with degrees that are unemployed for an employer to hire.

00:17:36.800 I don't think we're lacking that.

00:17:38.220 So your kid getting a degree or you getting a degree, if you think that's going to give

00:17:43.360 you an edge on everybody else, as a CEO myself, I don't even look at the degree that you have

00:17:49.180 from school.

00:17:49.720 I simply sit there and ask him your life experiences.

00:17:52.980 What trials have you gone through?

00:17:54.360 What challenges have you faced?

00:17:55.900 What have you overcome?

00:17:57.020 What are some of your biggest victories in life?

00:17:59.240 What languages do you speak?

00:18:00.720 What countries have you been to?

00:18:02.260 What's the hardest thing you've ever overcome?

00:18:03.540 That's what I want to know.

00:18:04.520 I don't even look at your degree that you get.

00:18:06.740 I don't.

00:18:07.440 I look at those types of things when I'm hiring somebody.

00:18:10.220 And I'm a CEO myself as running a company.

00:18:13.320 We look at that.

00:18:14.480 Another one is my parents said so.

00:18:16.400 You know, my parents said so is something that, you know, as much as we try to sit there

00:18:21.180 and talk about that whole thing, I talked about parents peer pressure earlier.

00:18:24.540 Sometimes parents peer pressure.

00:18:25.900 It's a video.

00:18:26.360 Definitely.

00:18:26.780 I suggest parents to watch.

00:18:27.940 And listen, parents, please send messages if you disagree with this.

00:18:32.340 Please.

00:18:32.880 But all I'm asking for is for people who are watching this, talk about this.

00:18:37.580 Debate this.

00:18:38.820 Break this argument down.

00:18:40.340 At the dinner table, say, I want to talk about a video I watched.

00:18:43.700 Do you agree with it?

00:18:44.600 I totally disagree with the guy.

00:18:46.040 And break it down.

00:18:46.980 We're going to come up with good resolutions if we talk about these things.

00:18:50.500 Somebody says, why are you going to college?

00:18:52.220 I'm clear on my career.

00:18:54.060 Perfect.

00:18:54.500 I support it.

00:18:55.100 You ought to continue going to college.

00:18:56.840 I want to figure out what I want to do.

00:18:58.380 Absolutely not.

00:18:59.160 Drop out.

00:18:59.600 You're not spending mommy's money or your money trying to figure something out in college.

00:19:02.940 And I would suggest, kids, listen, I partied hardcore in my life.

00:19:07.500 I partied.

00:19:08.060 I had a lot of fun with my life.

00:19:10.240 And I just didn't want to waste my parents' money because my parents sacrificed everything

00:19:14.100 they had to come to America.

00:19:16.640 And when we were living in Iran, as a Christian family living in Iran, it was very difficult.

00:19:20.500 And when Khomeini died, six weeks later, we escaped.

00:19:22.240 We went to a refugee camp in Germany.

00:19:24.120 And then from Germany, we came to the States here.

00:19:26.240 And they got a divorce.

00:19:27.260 It was very difficult for them.

00:19:28.820 And then I served the military.

00:19:29.940 The last thing I wanted to ask my parents is for money.

00:19:31.860 I didn't want to ask my parents for money because I wanted to kind of prove to them that

00:19:35.220 I can survive on my own.

00:19:36.360 So I knew when I was partying hard, I didn't want them to pay for my partying.

00:19:39.400 And if you're somebody that's doing that, man up and woman up and go to your parents 0.96

00:19:43.720 and tell them and say, Mom, Dad, I think you guys are wasting your money putting me through

00:19:46.300 college.

00:19:46.740 Here's why.

00:19:47.040 I'm just not disciplined.

00:19:48.100 Be honest with them.

00:19:48.880 You have no idea how much respect you'll gain from them by doing that.

00:19:52.080 So with that being said, with that being said, now, my opinion on what we ought to do before

00:19:58.920 dropping out of college.

00:19:59.820 So someone says, you know what, Pat?

00:20:00.960 I get messages.

00:20:01.800 Pat, I so agree with you.

00:20:03.600 This is why I'm dropping out of college.

00:20:05.680 You're absolutely right.

00:20:06.940 Wait, wait, wait before you drop out of college.

00:20:08.940 I have some points before you drop out of college.

00:20:10.740 One, you've got to have a source of income.

00:20:13.140 You've got to have a source of income before you drop out of college.

00:20:15.460 It's not just a join this, you know, exciting new thing.

00:20:19.680 I'm going to drop out of college.

00:20:20.560 I don't want any responsibilities.

00:20:21.620 This message has nothing to do with responsibilities.

00:20:24.120 Behind me, it says, read.

00:20:25.300 I've read over a thousand books.

00:20:26.740 Don't think this is like, kumbaya, I'm joining this club of dropping out of college. 0.97

00:20:30.540 I'm going to go be a billionaire.

00:20:32.220 Zuckerberg didn't become a billionaire because he wanted to drop out of college because he

00:20:35.100 didn't want responsibilities.

00:20:36.140 He dropped out of college and worked 120 hours a week is what he did.

00:20:39.680 Big difference.

00:20:40.440 Remember this.

00:20:41.380 Jobs worked his butt off.

00:20:43.120 So all these entrepreneur heroes that people have behind closed doors before they became

00:20:47.840 a hero, they worked very hard.

00:20:49.280 So before dropping out, you've got to have a source of income.

00:20:51.700 Two, learn sales.

00:20:54.400 If you don't know sales, learn sales.

00:20:56.300 If you kind of want to get disciplined, you don't have a lot of discipline, a highly, highly

00:20:59.740 endorsed military.

00:21:01.200 Air Force would be my first choice because they're all about education coming out of Air Force.

00:21:04.840 Air Force, then it would probably be Navy, Army, Marines.

00:21:08.660 And listen, I'm Army and I'm putting you three because I just think they got to focus a little

00:21:12.480 bit more on education.

00:21:13.460 And I don't necessarily think Army and Marines spend as much time on education as they ought

00:21:17.700 to.

00:21:17.900 Air Force definitely does.

00:21:18.900 It's a great experience.

00:21:19.760 They treat you like, you know, they treat you royally in the Air Force.

00:21:23.800 You almost live like you're living in a hotel.

00:21:26.060 They change your bed.

00:21:26.840 It's very different than being in an Army life living in barracks and Marines.

00:21:29.580 Anyways, the lifestyle is getting better regardless.

00:21:31.940 The other day I went to 101st Airborne Division, the unit I was at, I didn't even recognize

00:21:35.400 it because it didn't look like barracks.

00:21:37.000 It looked like a Holiday Inn hotel.

00:21:38.480 It's a complete different life they're providing for our military servicemen.

00:21:42.940 Many CEOs, many CEOs, many politicians, many presidents served in the military before.

00:21:47.980 They teach us a lot about independence and discipline.

00:21:50.220 Travel the world.

00:21:50.900 I'm a big fan of traveling the world.

00:21:52.360 I constantly tell people, go see the world.

00:21:54.660 You know, if you are undecided and you have work ethic, get a backpack, partner with somebody.

00:21:59.380 Don't go by yourself.

00:22:00.720 Go experience what it is to live in Europe.

00:22:02.500 Go experience what it is to live in Brazil.

00:22:05.460 Go experience what it is to live in Canada.

00:22:07.100 Live in UK. 0.78

00:22:08.020 Go work for a different, learn the culture, learn the community.

00:22:11.200 Have that experience.

00:22:12.080 When somebody sits in front of me, I'm interviewing and they tell me, I lived a year in UK.

00:22:16.180 I lived a year in Spain.

00:22:17.160 I'm fascinated by it.

00:22:18.920 I know how to speak Spanish.

00:22:20.320 I went on a mission.

00:22:21.140 I am fascinated by it.

00:22:23.420 And I like that because in a way, that person may not be 48 years old, but that person has

00:22:28.940 more of a worldly experience than a 48-year-old who's never been out of the country.

00:22:33.300 That to me is a lot of value than a four-year degree.

00:22:36.400 I put it there.

00:22:37.440 I put it there because I think there's a lot of value to it.

00:22:40.900 Work under a CEO for free.

00:22:42.780 And listen to everything he tells you.

00:22:44.440 Work under a CEO for free.

00:22:46.100 Whatever she tells you or he tells you, listen, learn, learn from them, okay?

00:22:49.980 Work for an entrepreneur for free while having a source of income.

00:22:54.000 Because you can always do the college thing from 22 to 26.

00:22:57.020 I think sometimes the challenge that we have is we put all kids in one box.

00:23:00.900 It's just one system everybody has to follow.

00:23:03.780 Think about if we have four kids.

00:23:04.860 You and I have four kids together, okay?

00:23:07.200 Or you and your wife, or you and your husband have four kids.

00:23:10.560 One of your kids, every time you watch your kid, this kid will watch a patent movie over

00:23:15.380 and over and over again.

00:23:16.140 He watches 300 over and over again.

00:23:17.800 He watches Braveheart, Patriot, Saving Private Ryan.

00:23:21.540 You know, he's always uniform, all this stuff.

00:23:23.460 Maybe your kid wants to join the military.

00:23:25.260 Let him.

00:23:26.600 Watch what they want to do and develop their strengths and their calling.

00:23:30.760 Not because you went to school.

00:23:32.160 Let the kid see maybe military is their route.

00:23:34.320 You watch the kid and I go, this kid is just all about, you know, friendly with everybody.

00:23:38.800 He goes and networks with everybody.

00:23:40.120 He goes and shakes hands with everybody.

00:23:41.460 He's so good, smile, charm, all this stuff.

00:23:43.520 Maybe he's an entrepreneur.

00:23:44.400 Entrepreneur, you know, entrepreneur.

00:23:46.960 Maybe you got a kid that's always like arguing with you, constantly debating with you.

00:23:50.000 Maybe that kid's an attorney.

00:23:51.420 Maybe that kid needs to also go be an entrepreneur, run a business, because he's going to make

00:23:54.080 him a good negotiator, right?

00:23:55.960 Maybe you got a kid that's always curious about health and how are you?

00:23:59.620 How are you doing, mom?

00:24:00.340 Are you feeling good?

00:24:00.920 Maybe that's a doctor.

00:24:01.720 I got nursing.

00:24:02.420 Maybe there's a connection there.

00:24:03.600 But pay attention and don't put them in the box thinking every kid is going to be in

00:24:06.880 the same.

00:24:07.260 If a kid loves politics, if you got a kid at four years old, six years old, enjoy listening

00:24:12.660 to Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, or Anderson Cooper, or Rachel Maddow, and you're like, what

00:24:17.800 is this kid doing listening?

00:24:19.540 Maybe they're like politics.

00:24:21.440 Maybe it's college to pursue politics in the future.

00:24:24.040 But not everyone fits the same mold on what they need to be doing.

00:24:28.500 Now, this is the subject that I would be teaching if I was running a university today.

00:24:35.620 And I think we need to be teaching the subject.

00:24:37.040 There was a song that I saw recently.

00:24:39.380 Somebody shared it with me.

00:24:40.320 I'll put the link of the song on the bottom.

00:24:42.240 Video has got six and a half million views.

00:24:43.980 A kid talks about drop out of school and staying in school, something like that.

00:24:47.320 Let's put the link on the bottom that they can see it as well, Paul, is what we'll do.

00:24:51.240 You can see he made a lot of good arguments on what you need to be worried about about life.

00:24:54.800 But if I'm running a school and I have a university, I want to see what are the biggest problems

00:25:01.600 we're facing in the world right now, and I want to teach that.

00:25:05.580 For instance, marriage.

00:25:08.160 Two out of three marriages in America end up out of divorce.

00:25:10.480 How about we talk about it?

00:25:12.980 How about we explain, listen, here's marriage.

00:25:15.800 Let's talk about marriage.

00:25:17.160 Why do we even get married in the first place? 0.56

00:25:19.560 What's the purpose of marriage?

00:25:20.840 Is it just tax purposes?

00:25:22.040 Is it to have kids?

00:25:22.800 Is it because I would process marriage, and I would talk about bringing people who have

00:25:28.820 been married for 30 years, have a successful personal life, have raised good kids, and I

00:25:33.200 would have a panel of three parents where it's a six-hour panel, and kids talk to them, and

00:25:39.400 they're talking about marriage, what works, problems, maybe issues they went through that

00:25:43.000 they're willing to be vulnerable and share with the kids.

00:25:45.740 Kids are going to remember that.

00:25:47.500 They're adults at that time, 18, 19, 20 years old.

00:25:49.620 We need to talk about marriage.

00:25:51.100 We need to talk about those types of things in universities, in colleges.

00:25:56.140 I would send my kids to your school if that was the case, if you're going to teach those

00:26:00.440 type of things, and there's a panel to it, not just somebody getting up and talking about

00:26:04.360 how to have a good marriage, and they've never been married before.

00:26:06.580 We have too many experts nowadays.

00:26:09.040 They're talking about what they've done.

00:26:10.340 Here's what you need to have a successful marriage.

00:26:12.500 They've been divorced 17 times.

00:26:13.780 No, I want somebody that's going to talk about marriage that's been married 30 years.

00:26:17.060 I want a personal trainer that's in shape.

00:26:19.600 I want an entrepreneur giving me advice that's actually running a business.

00:26:22.780 I want somebody who knows what they're doing, right?

00:26:26.060 Two, I'd have somebody getting up there and talking about taxes, how to position yourself

00:26:29.840 to pay the lowest amount of taxes, how to position yourself to pay the highest amount

00:26:32.660 of taxes, how benefits of having your own business.

00:26:35.200 If you have your own business, you get tax write-offs, and you can do this.

00:26:38.060 I would get details about positioning yourself for taxes.

00:26:41.580 I would talk about that because you need to educate.

00:26:44.060 Kids come out, oh my gosh, I'm paying taxes?

00:26:45.980 What is this all about?

00:26:46.920 Then they're confused.

00:26:47.800 We need to teach that.

00:26:48.880 Three, money.

00:26:49.500 I spent a lot of time talking about money.

00:26:52.300 And I'm not talking about economics class.

00:26:54.320 Here's a stock.

00:26:54.960 A stock is a certificate of ownership.

00:26:57.040 CD is a certificate of deposit.

00:26:58.420 No, no.

00:26:59.360 Specific.

00:27:00.360 Specific.

00:27:01.380 Here's short-term plan, mid-term plan, long-term plan.

00:27:04.460 Here's a mutual fund.

00:27:05.400 Here's why an annuity makes sense.

00:27:06.540 Here's an insurance policy.

00:27:07.700 Here's why I need life insurance.

00:27:09.320 Here's how good 401k.

00:27:10.640 This is why if a company doesn't offer this, look for this.

00:27:13.220 If a company's offering that, look for that.

00:27:14.640 If they're not matching, do this.

00:27:16.300 Specifics to the T.

00:27:17.760 And I would bring people who are money managers to explain what would you do if you were 19,

00:27:23.600 20 years old to make sure by 45 years old you're set financially or 55 years old.

00:27:28.060 And I would have three experts with three different philosophies teaching.

00:27:31.560 Not the professor.

00:27:33.560 Professionals is who would be teaching to them in the subject of finance.

00:27:37.560 Another thing I'd be teaching, I'd be teaching kids how to vote.

00:27:39.600 You know, a lot of kids don't know how to vote.

00:27:40.820 They're just kind of sitting there saying, well, do I vote Republican, Democrat this?

00:27:44.260 You know, am I a Democrat because my family's a Democrat?

00:27:46.580 My father's a Republican.

00:27:48.320 What do I do?

00:27:49.120 I don't know what to do.

00:27:50.080 So I would have, I would have a Republican, a Democrat, and an independent come.

00:27:55.560 Put them up there.

00:27:56.220 Pick the top 20 most important issues that they debate.

00:27:58.560 Pick and pose the questions with no interference from the professor.

00:28:03.060 Let them debate for three hours.

00:28:04.800 Let them go at it.

00:28:05.980 And we're learning.

00:28:07.160 And you're processing and saying, that guy's argument makes sense.

00:28:09.560 Why is that guy getting nervous?

00:28:10.980 Why is he bickering?

00:28:11.680 Maybe there's a reason.

00:28:12.660 Let me ask him another question.

00:28:14.060 They're going to learn more about their own political beliefs when they see the debate

00:28:18.120 taking place.

00:28:18.640 And I would do this three different times with different personalities.

00:28:21.120 So it's not the strongest Democrat wins or the strongest Republicans wins.

00:28:24.460 I would get different personalities.

00:28:25.700 Somebody wins each time, a different person wins, and then they're going to be able to

00:28:29.100 assess which one makes sense to them.

00:28:30.600 I would have a capitalist, a communist, and a socialist debate in front of the kids.

00:28:35.180 I would pay $100,000 a year for my kids to go to that school.

00:28:39.200 The other thing I would do is religion.

00:28:40.380 A lot of times professors will lean towards atheism or agnostic or certain religion, and

00:28:45.620 they will impose that on their kids, and they'll mock maybe someone who believes in God,

00:28:49.360 or vice versa, somebody who doesn't believe in God.

00:28:51.360 Regardless, I would have an atheist, a Christian, a Catholic, a Mormon. 0.62

00:28:55.700 A Jehovah, a Muslim. 1.00

00:28:57.240 It doesn't matter.

00:28:58.260 Debate.

00:28:59.360 And maybe the kid at the end is going to come out and say, everybody's saying the same thing.

00:29:02.500 Maybe the kid's going to come out and say, wait a minute.

00:29:04.180 It sounds like everyone agrees.

00:29:05.940 So let me ask you a question.

00:29:06.920 How do you guys think about this?

00:29:08.000 What do you guys think about this?

00:29:08.900 What do you guys think?

00:29:09.240 There's a lot.

00:29:10.420 So who is the truth?

00:29:12.480 Why is your religion the truth?

00:29:13.900 Why?

00:29:14.460 Then they're going to be able to make an assessment for themselves.

00:29:17.300 Parenting.

00:29:18.380 We have problems with parenting.

00:29:19.460 Why don't we start teaching kids how to parent as adults, young adults at 18, 19 years old?

00:29:23.260 Yes, teaching them how to raise kids.

00:29:25.700 Teaching them how to discipline kids.

00:29:27.280 Not by professors.

00:29:29.600 Teaching them by a person who has raised great kids, been married for 30 years, raised great kids,

00:29:38.240 teach them, and give examples.

00:29:40.600 And then bring the kids that have done very well, and they talk about how their parents raised them.

00:29:45.240 So maybe you have the kids there, and have the parents there, and kids are asking questions.

00:29:49.160 These 18, 19, 20, 21, 22-year-olds are asking questions.

00:29:52.500 Hey, how about this?

00:29:53.060 How about when you go through this?

00:29:53.880 How about when you go through it?

00:29:54.600 Here's what we did.

00:29:55.040 My dad did this.

00:29:56.000 What happened when you got a bad girl?

00:29:57.060 What did your dad do?

00:29:57.720 What happened?

00:29:58.360 Let them learn.

00:29:59.720 And then these parents are also going to say, don't expect to go back home and say,

00:30:02.320 your parents are not perfect.

00:30:03.220 Call your mom and dad and say, hey, your mom sucks. 0.99

00:30:04.880 Your dad has no clue how to parent.

00:30:06.900 No.

00:30:07.560 They're also going to say, don't expect perfection from your parents.

00:30:09.700 So you can also sit there, and the kid's going to say, you know what?

00:30:11.980 I've been so hard on my mom and dad, man.

00:30:13.660 I need to call and tell my mom how much I love her.

00:30:15.920 Yeah, I need to call my dad and tell them.

00:30:17.260 And then it's also, I'm going to learn how to parent my kids like this.

00:30:19.520 I'm going to do this.

00:30:21.180 They're going to pick up.

00:30:22.000 These are life decisions.

00:30:24.000 People make divorces. 1.00

00:30:25.220 They file bankruptcies.

00:30:26.400 They have tax liens.

00:30:27.840 They get audited.

00:30:29.240 They get into heated, heated debates and battles and arguments over politics.

00:30:34.360 They get into major arguments over religion.

00:30:36.940 They lose their relationship with their kids because nobody is teaching this stuff when we're

00:30:41.160 in college and school.

00:30:42.820 Why not?

00:30:43.640 Why not, professors?

00:30:46.100 Now, you may say, we teach it at my school.

00:30:47.980 Why not raise the standards and teach it at all schools?

00:30:50.280 How come this is not part of curriculum?

00:30:52.120 I say we add it to the curriculum.

00:30:54.100 That's what I'm saying, to add it to the curriculum.

00:30:56.520 If you want my three-and-a-half-year-old and two-year-old right now, and I've got one

00:30:59.740 in the oven right now, if you want me as a parent to say, yeah, I'm going to send my

00:31:03.580 kids to school, why don't we do something about that curriculum now?

00:31:06.440 So by then, we're endorsing kids going to school.

00:31:08.480 Okay, maybe we are going to send our kids to school for four years because you're teaching

00:31:11.980 this stuff.

00:31:12.500 Because you're doing these things that we need to be doing.

00:31:16.300 So that's my opinion on what I think about college.

00:31:18.880 They're very strong opinions.

00:31:19.960 I don't expect you to fully agree with everything.

00:31:21.920 I may be wrong with every one of the things I shared.

00:31:24.360 I could absolutely be wrong with everything I shared with you here today, and I'm okay

00:31:27.520 with that.

00:31:27.880 All I'm saying is, let's open the discussion and start talking about these types of things.

00:31:32.260 Now, I want to share a couple of comments.

00:31:34.200 I got when I wrote the question and I said, why should somebody drop out or stay in school?

00:31:38.920 I got a few different stories.

00:31:40.580 I'll share three of them with you very quickly.

00:31:42.160 First one is Douglas Dale, who's a managing partner in Arizona somewhere.

00:31:47.200 And he came back and he said this, when it comes down to it, I'm a recent graduate with

00:31:51.260 two degrees, one in business and one in communication.

00:31:53.060 While I would agree that any and all of skills I learned could have been obtained in real world,

00:31:57.440 there is still quite a bit that couldn't learn that I did in education.

00:32:01.260 More employers look for degrees to create a benchmark within their businesses, while others

00:32:04.660 look for experience.

00:32:05.420 When it comes down to society, we are all on an unlevel playing field.

00:32:09.100 Either you have a degree or experience, but neither is more correct than the other.

00:32:11.860 It really depends on the career choice you make as the individual.

00:32:15.000 I was raised on education and told that at my bank, I need to get a degree.

00:32:19.040 I am now in process of getting my dual MBAs because I see it as a good route for me and

00:32:23.620 my career.

00:32:24.480 Good for you, Douglas, and a great argument.

00:32:27.040 Here's Pablo from Spain.

00:32:28.420 He's a first officer at Norwegian Air Shuttle.

00:32:31.200 He said, I have a college degree, but I really think that it was not really useful and

00:32:34.340 didn't prepare me for what I went through in the real world.

00:32:37.140 I have learned everything with experience, but I think college gives you some skill that

00:32:41.000 could help you later on in life.

00:32:42.140 Thank you, Pablo from Spain.

00:32:43.860 Here's Tokazoni Maloka from South Africa.

00:32:47.860 He said, I'm a dropout not because I wanted, but I didn't have enough money to fund my education.

00:32:51.960 I was only left with two subjects to complete my degree.

00:32:53.740 This has been a blessing in disguise because since I left school, I was placed the value hard

00:32:58.480 work above all this.

00:32:59.320 This has brought me closer to many opportunities.

00:33:01.060 I always have to work hard because I'm not a graduate, regardless of how much I know.

00:33:06.220 Being a dropout also helped me understand that the real world owes me nothing.

00:33:10.040 Good for you with that type of a mindset.

00:33:13.860 Here's the last one I'll read to you.

00:33:15.180 Antonio Rubio said, he works in Lima, Peru.

00:33:18.980 Hello, Patrick.

00:33:19.540 College is an important and beautiful stage, but if you only plan to rely on a degree, this

00:33:24.780 is very evil.

00:33:25.420 Today, the people live in the safety of the house, then move to the safety of the college,

00:33:28.800 then move to the safety of a company, and the problem is that people don't live and don't

00:33:32.600 take experience in the real world, don't expand the context and realities, don't achieve their

00:33:36.720 full potential.

00:33:37.480 They are safe.

00:33:38.080 How we're in college, you have the opportunity to make friends, build a relation for the

00:33:40.760 future, learn to read and create the habit a bit more, but the principal problem that

00:33:44.460 I see in college is the fact that we are evaluated on independent ratings, and we tend

00:33:47.900 to be alone and not cooperate with a group interesting in the real world to grow and to succeed.

00:33:53.280 We need to cooperate and work with them as a team.

00:33:54.800 And you know what, the college is a good thing, good and important thing, and it's only my

00:33:59.040 opinion, but the system is old.

00:34:00.560 It would be good for students that they choose their courses and make the perfect career for

00:34:04.200 themselves and evaluate the rating by groups, create the system in a challenge, is a challenge,

00:34:08.500 but it is better for the future.

00:34:10.280 So I pass the ball on colleges and invite them to take up the challenge of making a modern

00:34:14.400 valuation plan.

00:34:15.720 Wow.

00:34:16.640 Thank you, Antonio from Lima, Peru.

00:34:19.280 Very, very impressed with your comments by everybody.

00:34:22.440 I welcome you to comment.

00:34:24.940 I welcome you to debate.

00:34:26.940 I welcome you to share this with college students, with high school kids, with parents,

00:34:31.520 with anybody who's an educator involved in that world, and even any politicians that you

00:34:36.740 know, to hear this concept out and start talking about it.

00:34:39.700 All around the world, this is not something that's just an American thing.

00:34:42.200 This is a worldly thing that we need to improve in and start talking about things that really,

00:34:45.860 really matter.

00:34:46.320 So here's my challenge to you.

00:34:47.860 If you're somebody that's thinking about going to college, you're currently in college, or you're

00:34:51.140 a parent, go to my website, patrickbaydavid.com.

00:34:54.100 I have a questionnaire prepared for you to ask.

00:34:57.140 It's called, Stay in School or Dropout Test.

00:35:00.200 Stay in School or Dropout Test.

00:35:02.780 And it's a questionnaire to go through, and you get a score at the end, and based on that

00:35:06.780 score, it'll tell you to either stay in school or drop out.

00:35:10.800 And once you take the test, I encourage you to share it with other people and have other

00:35:13.880 people take the test.

00:35:14.740 Thanks, everybody, for listening.

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00:35:20.860 Give us a five-star.

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00:35:23.760 And if you have any questions for me that you may have, you can always find me on Snapchat,

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00:35:29.800 Just search my name, Patrick MidDavid.

00:35:31.700 And I actually do respond back when you snap me or send me a message on Instagram.

00:35:36.700 With that being said, have a great day today.

00:35:38.440 Take care, everybody.

00:35:39.140 Bye-bye.

00:35:44.740 Bye-bye.

Valuetainment - January 22, 2019

Episode 252： Dropout or Stay in School？

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