Valuetainment - September 20, 2019


Episode 369： Million Dollar Card Collection


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In this episode of Value Tim, Pat Trubet talks about his baseball card collection and why he collects baseball cards. He also talks about the history of baseball cards and the value of some of the most valuable cards of all time.

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00:00:00.000 30 seconds, one time for the underdog, ignition sequence start, let me see you put em up, reach
00:00:09.240 the sky, turn the stars up above, cause it's one time for the underdog, one time for the
00:00:16.240 underdog.
00:00:17.340 I'm Pat Trubet, your host of Value Tim, and today I'm sharing with you my baseball card
00:00:21.720 collection, at least not all of it, but some of it, people keep asking about Pat.
00:00:25.280 Do you really have a million dollar card collection?
00:00:27.520 Well, I do, but today I'm just going to share with you some of the cards.
00:00:30.600 By the way, here's why I'm doing it, there's a reason behind the madness, let me explain
00:00:34.260 to you what the reason behind the madness is.
00:00:36.260 So, I'm not the only one that collects weird things, let me give you some names.
00:00:41.820 Angelina Jolie collects knives, I don't know why, but she collects knives. 1.00
00:00:46.160 Nicolas Cage collects comic books, matter of fact, he owned a Superman number one, the
00:00:50.900 old, old school, the main one, and by the way, somebody stole it from him, and then he eventually
00:00:55.560 found it back, and they brought it back to him, and he sold it recently for 2.1 million
00:00:59.700 dollars.
00:01:00.120 A comic book, he sold for 2.1 million dollars.
00:01:03.720 Robin Williams, Billy Crystal, and Charlie Sheen collect baseball cards.
00:01:08.760 I want to say, Brad Pitt collects metal furniture.
00:01:12.020 Tom Hanks collects typewriters.
00:01:14.020 Jay-Z collects watches.
00:01:15.600 There's a list of these names of what people collect.
00:01:17.720 I like baseball cards.
00:01:18.700 And there's a reason why I collect baseball cards.
00:01:21.300 So, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, I used to go around collecting beer bottles.
00:01:26.820 Late at night, my mom and my sister would go to sleep.
00:01:28.980 I would take my shopping cart, and I would go from trash cans, and I would collect two
00:01:31.840 liter bottles, because it was five cents per two liter bottle.
00:01:35.120 And then per two cans, I would get five cents at Albertsons, and I would go, I would go recycle,
00:01:39.500 and I would go take that money that I had with my friend Adrian, and we would go, and we
00:01:42.380 would buy baseball cards.
00:01:43.260 And I always wanted to have this 1992 Stadium Club Shaq, when he was coming out of LSU.
00:01:49.600 It was a card.
00:01:50.240 I want it like $40 cost.
00:01:51.360 Not a big deal.
00:01:52.360 But to me, it was a big deal.
00:01:53.660 So, and the first time I started collecting cards, I was in Germany.
00:01:56.440 When Germany won the World Cup in 1990, I was in Germany.
00:02:00.180 Everything shut down for a week.
00:02:02.260 I was in Germany when they won the World Cup, and it was the first time I collected cards.
00:02:05.840 And then later on, it got bigger.
00:02:06.940 And I remember I said, in 1991, I'll never forget this.
00:02:11.460 First, Bruce McNall and Wayne Gretzky bought a card in 1991.
00:02:17.300 It was a Hannes Wagner card, T206.
00:02:20.980 They bought it, I want to say, for $451,000, is what they bought it for.
00:02:25.840 That card they bought in 1991 for $451,000.
00:02:29.140 Today, I want to say it sold a couple years ago for $7.5 million.
00:02:33.380 And by the way, if you know anybody who has that card, please send me a tweet.
00:02:38.080 I'd like to talk to them.
00:02:38.920 My handle is PatrickBedDavid.
00:02:40.260 Send me a tweet.
00:02:40.680 I'd like to talk to the person that owns a Hannes Wagner card.
00:02:43.340 But the point is, think about $451,000.
00:02:46.620 You buy something for $451,000 in 1991.
00:02:50.460 What does it sell for today?
00:02:52.580 A house, if you would have bought in 1991 for $451,000.
00:02:55.480 What is it worth today?
00:02:56.420 A million?
00:02:57.400 Maybe?
00:02:58.100 Maybe $1,000,000,000 too?
00:02:59.820 One card from $451,000 to $7.5 million.
00:03:02.060 So, this is my card collection, what I have.
00:03:04.380 Let me share it with you.
00:03:06.060 The first one is a Jerry West rookie card.
00:03:08.740 Now, if you know who Jerry West is, he's on the NBA logo.
00:03:11.460 When you see the NBA logo, Jerry West is the logo.
00:03:14.440 That's why they call him The Logo.
00:03:16.420 This is a 1961 Fleer, seven and a half, Beckett Graded Services.
00:03:21.060 It's probably a $5,000 card.
00:03:22.980 But Jerry West, you know, he's the greatest GM in the NBA today.
00:03:26.760 He goes to a team, they pretty much win a championship or go to the finals or go and do things no one expected them to do like Memphis Grizzlies did when they hired him as a consultant.
00:03:35.460 But this is a legendary player.
00:03:36.820 There's a lot of history behind this.
00:03:37.920 So, I wanted to own a rookie card.
00:03:39.020 I did.
00:03:39.860 The next one is a Mickey Mantle 1953 Topps.
00:03:43.240 It's a BBG7 by Beckett.
00:03:45.520 This is probably a $13,000 card, Mickey Mantle.
00:03:48.500 Mickey Mantle was a stud coming up.
00:03:50.180 I was always a big Mickey Mantle fan.
00:03:52.180 So, this isn't the 1952 Topps card.
00:03:56.200 So, this is the 1953 Topps.
00:03:58.500 But it's still a great card to have.
00:04:00.320 The next one is a Will Chamberlain rookie card.
00:04:02.840 PSA 8.
00:04:05.040 1961 Fleer.
00:04:05.960 Obviously, Will Chamberlain is an anomaly.
00:04:08.020 This guy claimed he benched 600 pounds, jumped 51 inches.
00:04:11.940 And he's the only guy ever to average 50 points in a game and I think 45 rebounds in a game.
00:04:16.060 Which is insanity to average those kinds of rebounds.
00:04:18.440 And then they told him, you're a ball hogger.
00:04:19.700 You don't pass.
00:04:20.260 And one season, he went out there and averaged 12.4.
00:04:22.940 I think assists a game.
00:04:24.200 And he led the league in assists.
00:04:25.380 A 7-foot-1 guy led the game in assists.
00:04:28.340 But that's Will Chamberlain.
00:04:29.260 This is probably a $15,000 card you're looking at with a Will Chamberlain.
00:04:33.980 The next one is a Babe Ruth card.
00:04:36.420 PSA 5.
00:04:37.820 Gowdy.
00:04:38.320 This one, obviously, Babe Ruth.
00:04:40.460 If you know nothing about baseball cards and you're thinking about investing into baseball cards,
00:04:45.340 pick players and don't go too modern.
00:04:47.540 Go pre-70s.
00:04:49.360 Go pre-60s if you could even better.
00:04:52.120 But if you can get any Babe Ruth cards that are graded by PSA, you keep them for a while,
00:04:55.880 it's going to do okay for you.
00:04:57.980 This is probably a $15,000 card.
00:05:00.040 It's probably a $13,000 card.
00:05:01.400 Still a nice card.
00:05:03.000 The next one is a Ted Williams.
00:05:05.360 1939 Playball.
00:05:06.500 This is probably Ted Williams' best card you can get.
00:05:09.300 And I want to say this is a rookie card.
00:05:12.360 PSA 8.
00:05:13.180 I think one of these sold recently for $42,000.
00:05:16.120 Ted Williams won Triple Crown pre-World War because he went to the war.
00:05:20.560 He says, I'm going to go to war.
00:05:21.420 So one day he just decides, I'm going to war.
00:05:22.820 He goes to war.
00:05:24.160 He wins the Triple Crown.
00:05:25.160 Then goes to war.
00:05:25.920 Comes back from war and wins Triple Crown again.
00:05:28.640 Last guy who batted 406.
00:05:30.160 Baseball players today get paid $20, $30 million a year to hit 3 out of 10 pitches.
00:05:35.780 This guy would hit 4 out of 10 pitches.
00:05:38.220 If he was playing today, he'd be making $60, $70, $80 million a year.
00:05:42.040 And that's probably lowballing the number that he'd be worth.
00:05:44.580 He'd be the first billion dollar contract if he played today.
00:05:47.560 But that's Ted Williams.
00:05:48.400 I'm a big Ted Williams fan because psychologically he played with the media.
00:05:51.980 He was a brilliant guy outside of just playing baseball.
00:05:54.160 Joe DiMaggio, okay?
00:05:57.340 Joe DiMaggio is known for a lot of things.
00:05:59.380 One of the things he's known for is a 56-game hit streak.
00:06:03.100 56 games around he got a hit.
00:06:05.000 The other thing he's famous for is he married the woman that was on the first ever Playboy
00:06:10.560 magazine, which is Marilyn Monroe.
00:06:12.160 Many, many men admired and they fantasized about Marilyn Monroe.
00:06:17.080 This guy didn't have to fantasize because every night he went home, it wasn't a fantasy.
00:06:21.160 It was a reality with Marilyn Monroe.
00:06:22.640 It didn't last a long time, but he was at least with her for a while.
00:06:25.380 This is a PSA 8, 1938 Gaudi.
00:06:28.400 This is probably a $42,000 card, $35,000 to $42,000 card.
00:06:33.240 And again, another good card to add to your collection.
00:06:35.380 Now it gets a little bit interesting.
00:06:37.440 The next one is a Babe Ruth.
00:06:39.120 This is card number 149.
00:06:40.780 It's part of the same collection, but in that collection they had a few Babe Ruth.
00:06:44.860 This one's card number 144.
00:06:46.320 This is 149.
00:06:47.820 This is PSA 5.
00:06:48.820 This is PSA 8.
00:06:49.760 This sold in 2016 for $155,000 is what it sold three years ago for $155,000.
00:06:58.100 Again, you cannot go wrong with Babe Ruth, especially if you can get a PSA 8, which this is just a beauty.
00:07:04.200 I mean, this card right here.
00:07:05.140 Can you imagine like cards come out, kids grab them, they're messed up.
00:07:09.280 And you mean to tell me this one's got center, surface, corners, just a gorgeous card here.
00:07:17.260 Babe Ruth, first man to hit 60 home runs.
00:07:19.560 I think Roger Maris broke his record in 1961 with 61 home runs.
00:07:25.340 And people were upset that he broke the record.
00:07:27.240 And he was psychologically tortured so much because everybody loved Babe Ruth so much.
00:07:31.080 And Roger wasn't ever a superstar.
00:07:32.880 He was a low-key guy.
00:07:33.740 They did a movie about him.
00:07:34.580 But anyways, that's Babe Ruth.
00:07:36.220 Now we're getting interesting.
00:07:37.140 Now it's getting interesting here with some of the cards.
00:07:39.620 Let me show you this one here.
00:07:42.400 This is a 1979 Wayne Gretzky PSA 10 rookie card, Topps.
00:07:48.220 Not OPG, this is the Topps one.
00:07:50.160 There's only two of these in the world graded PSA 10.
00:07:53.040 And by the way, this one sold, again, three, four years ago for $205,000 is what this one sold for.
00:08:00.880 Again, Gretzky, the only sport that I would say where it's no debate.
00:08:06.000 In football, everybody can debate.
00:08:07.440 Who's the greatest football player of all time?
00:08:09.080 I'll be, you know, it's really Barry Sanders.
00:08:11.580 No, it's not Barry Sanders.
00:08:12.520 Tom Brady, it's not Tom Brady.
00:08:13.740 It's, you know, Elway.
00:08:14.840 It's not Elway.
00:08:15.640 It's really, you know, Peyton Manning.
00:08:17.480 What are you talking about?
00:08:18.440 Emmitt Smith, there's a debate.
00:08:20.300 Basketball.
00:08:20.820 LeBron, Kobe, Jordan, Will, Kareem.
00:08:23.460 Hockey, no debate.
00:08:25.160 Baseball, debate.
00:08:26.160 There is no debate.
00:08:27.040 This is the GOAT.
00:08:28.080 And no one's even close.
00:08:29.060 And no one debates it.
00:08:30.040 Nobody.
00:08:30.780 There is no debate with hockey.
00:08:32.620 So this is one of the cards.
00:08:33.700 But the other one is the crazy one.
00:08:35.840 Let me show you this one here.
00:08:37.640 And you can go research it for yourself.
00:08:39.300 This is a 1979 OPG Wayne Gretzky rookie card.
00:08:43.800 They look identical, right?
00:08:45.300 But one is Topps.
00:08:46.240 One is OPG.
00:08:47.800 Topps sold for $205,000.
00:08:49.540 This one, I want to say, in 2016 sold for $465,000.
00:08:55.500 This one, sold for $465,000.
00:08:59.760 This is, when you go into PSA's headquarters in Newport Beach, the PSA's where they grade
00:09:05.200 these cards.
00:09:05.920 And Joe was there when these things were being re-holded in a new holder.
00:09:09.460 This is a brand new holder, I want to say six weeks ago or something like that, four weeks
00:09:13.040 ago.
00:09:13.240 We have the whole printout and everything and they have registered it.
00:09:15.560 But when you go there on the wall of PSA, they have this on the wall.
00:09:20.280 When you enter a PSA headquarters office, this is on the wall.
00:09:23.360 This card is on the wall.
00:09:25.340 It's a special card.
00:09:26.320 Again, Wayne Gretzky.
00:09:27.360 There's a story behind the fact that I, you know, was enamored by the fact that him and
00:09:31.680 Bruce McNoll bought a Hannes Wagner card in 1991 for $451,000 and I'm buying his rookie
00:09:38.180 card and it's worth, I didn't buy it for $465,000, but it's worth, sold three years ago on $465,000
00:09:43.940 and that's three years ago.
00:09:44.700 Who knows what it's worth today?
00:09:45.600 I know there's a guy that owns these who is a very close customer and friend of ours
00:09:50.820 with, uh, through heritage and he wouldn't sell his.
00:09:54.940 If you offered him $750,000, he wouldn't sell his.
00:09:58.320 He's sitting on it.
00:09:59.220 He's not selling it.
00:10:00.020 He's a diehard Gretzky fan, but the other one is here.
00:10:02.580 So why am I sharing this with you?
00:10:03.940 Let me explain to you why I'm sharing this with you.
00:10:05.180 It's very simple.
00:10:05.900 Look, you know how in life, uh, to win, there's different recipes, meaning you need hard work,
00:10:13.080 you need goals, you need targets, you need clarity, you need to recruit the right people,
00:10:16.420 you need an enemy, you need competition, you know, you need, you know, all these, you need
00:10:20.600 to be able to figure out a way to hang out with people at your same level so you don't
00:10:23.220 feel like you have anxiety because like, oh, other people are going through the same problems.
00:10:25.880 You have a person you look up to that's mentoring, you need people below you that you're mentoring,
00:10:29.820 all of these things.
00:10:30.840 You know what's the additional thing I would add to that?
00:10:32.820 You need to have side hobbies or collections that bring out the childlike tendency of you
00:10:40.040 because when I hold these cards, I go back to the 12-year-old kid.
00:10:43.920 The 12-year-old kid, I'll tell you a crazy story about the 12-year-old kid.
00:10:47.640 When I was in Wilson Jr. High School, which is in Glendale, it was a middle school, and
00:10:51.620 I was in 8th grade, and we would walk back, we would have to go down the, uh, going over
00:10:55.820 the bridge, and when we would walk down this place, my friends would walk with me and I
00:11:00.940 would ask them the interesting questions.
00:11:02.120 Remember when we were boys and we would ask and say, if you could be with any woman, who
00:11:05.640 would it be?
00:11:06.480 Oh my gosh, for me it's Pamela Anderson from Baywatch because back then it was Baywatch. 0.97
00:11:09.860 Oh, for me it's Sophia Loren.
00:11:11.320 I still think she's gorgeous. 0.97
00:11:12.400 I think it's Elizabeth Taylor.
00:11:13.420 You're out of your mind.
00:11:14.840 You're, you guys don't know what you're talking about.
00:11:16.600 The most beautiful woman is Jada Pinkett.
00:11:18.640 I was a diehard Jada Pinkett fan.
00:11:20.240 Jada Pinkett, are you crazy?
00:11:22.020 Why Jada Pinkett? 0.83
00:11:23.220 And we would go back and forth, or even the debates about, you know, I don't know if you've
00:11:28.320 done this one.
00:11:28.840 This one was a lot of fun.
00:11:30.360 I grabbed my friends and we'd sit down, we'd talk, and I would say, listen guys, you
00:11:33.400 got one of these four you can be.
00:11:34.640 Which one would you rather be?
00:11:36.000 Richest man in the world.
00:11:36.980 At the time it was Gates.
00:11:38.380 You can be the greatest athlete in the world, Michael Jordan.
00:11:41.420 Jackson, you can be the greatest performer in the world, pick it, Michael Jackson, or
00:11:45.940 you can be the most powerful in the world, a president.
00:11:48.440 Who would you like to be?
00:11:49.740 And we would start.
00:11:50.920 Oh, there's no way in the world I would want to be the basketball player.
00:11:52.920 Who cares about basketball?
00:11:53.780 It's a sport.
00:11:54.720 After you're done, it's over.
00:11:55.680 Are you kidding me?
00:11:56.360 I want to be in that because if you're basketball, everybody watches you.
00:11:59.640 The billionaire, the president, and the Hollywood stars and entertainers.
00:12:02.940 Everybody watches you.
00:12:03.820 You are, if you're the president, you make decisions.
00:12:06.080 If you're a billionaire, you buy everything.
00:12:07.840 That was a mindset, right?
00:12:09.020 Because it was a dream, right?
00:12:11.220 And sometimes when you get past a certain age, after you've been beat up so many times
00:12:15.080 in life, the first thing that goes is that dream machine.
00:12:18.740 So you go from the languages, what if one day we could go out there and live a life like
00:12:24.080 this and be able to have this and be able to have that?
00:12:26.380 Versus it goes to, what if we go out of business?
00:12:28.940 What if somebody comes after me?
00:12:30.540 What if I lose everything?
00:12:31.980 The what if starts the same way, but it used to go this way, now it goes this way.
00:12:36.420 You've got to figure out a way to bring it from this side to this side by re-energizing
00:12:40.440 yourself and going back to being childlike.
00:12:42.840 Not childish, childlike.
00:12:44.420 But the whole idea is for you to start going back to dreaming again.
00:12:49.880 When you do, people want to be around you.
00:12:52.160 You recruit better people.
00:12:53.280 Clients want to be around you.
00:12:54.380 People want to do business with you.
00:12:55.760 You become attractive again because you're dreaming again, right?
00:12:59.200 So this is just for me.
00:13:00.780 You may say, Pat, I could care less.
00:13:02.700 I cannot believe you paid, you know, how much money you paid.
00:13:05.520 Half a million dollars for what?
00:13:06.940 For a piece of paper?
00:13:07.700 I would never do something like that.
00:13:09.160 That's fine.
00:13:09.960 But it doesn't matter if you like what I like.
00:13:11.960 Maybe you like the watches.
00:13:13.260 Maybe you like a comic book.
00:13:14.740 Maybe you like jewelry.
00:13:15.780 Maybe you like a certain stamp.
00:13:17.200 Maybe you like coins.
00:13:18.380 Go get it and look at it and appreciate it.
00:13:20.900 And it takes you back to what you were like when you were 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12 years old
00:13:25.100 because it brings back that childlike tendency.
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00:13:50.320 Take care, everybody.
00:13:51.040 Bye-bye.