Episode 419： Enes Kanter on the Negative Impact of Erdogan on Turkey
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In this episode, I sit down with Enes to talk about his time in the NBA, his political beliefs, and what's been happening in Turkey. I also talk about how he feels about the recent events with the Turkish government and Golan.
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And he's kind of a controversial figure in the NBA.
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Today we talk a little bit about his political beliefs with Turkey and, you know, what's
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It's going to be a different kind of a conversation, but I hope you enjoy this interview.
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So Celtics, one of the first questions I had for you, man.
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I mean, I'm a, I'm a, both a Kemba fan and I'm also a fan of Lillard.
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What's the biggest difference between these two guys?
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Ooh, I mean, I would just say this, the both guys, you know, what make him so special
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is, you know, they make themselves better and they make everybody else better run.
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I feel like that's why they make him really special.
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And I was just like, it's just very blessing to play and feature Hall of Famers like Damian
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And before I met Kemba, I mean, obviously he was in my draft class and I knew he was like
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a, he was like a nightmare to guard, but I didn't know he was like this down to earth,
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And, uh, he always, you know, he always laughed and always smiled and always bringing him
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So I'm like, wow, you know, that's very special.
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Which one is the style more, hey guys, let's come together.
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And as you can do better, hey guys, let's pull this.
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Is it that, or is it also a little bit of challenging?
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Hey, uh, what can I do to help you work on a free throw?
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Or is it just a locker room guy bringing them together?
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It's, I mean, they're both very similar, uh, players, very, very similar players.
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I mean, they, they, they challenged me to be, I mean, obviously they know I'm a, you know,
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really good offensive player, but they both were to challenge me to be a really good
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They all, they both were like, hey, we know you can score the ball.
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We can rebound the ball, but we, to get to the next level, we need to be good on defensively.
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So that's why they both, they challenged me to be very, very similar, uh, players.
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And anytime you're playing, you're entertaining to watch, man.
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You're going to do your fight, but at the same time, you got that, you know, that you cut
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your eyes, you're fighting the guys, you're going after them.
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They're trying to clean the blood off your head.
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So what is it with you and LeBron, though, man?
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I mean, you know, you, it's like when, when you and LeBron are on, you're like, somehow,
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I mean, obviously, I respect the guy a lot, man.
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I mean, he's, he's obviously one of the best, uh, best player to ever play this game, you
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But I'm obviously, it's like, I will do anything to win that game.
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Obviously, on the court, you just got to go out there and fight.
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But off the court, I mean, obviously, you got to try to, uh, get on, uh, get on the skin.
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But he just, he just keep focusing, focusing on his team.
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Because like, when I, down with the career, I'm going to be like, hey, man, I gotta, you
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know, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta fight with LeBron, or I gotta play against him, or I won't,
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So it's, it's definitely a blessing to have a guy, like, represent an NBA like that.
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Is, is, is, do you go after him because to you, it's kind of like, no one intimidates
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you because of where you, I'm from Iran, you're from Turkey.
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Like, is that, because everybody's afraid of him.
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I don't really care if you're a, like, I mean, call them lies.
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Like, I don't, I don't care if you're like a king or princess, queen, whatever you are.
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I'm just going to come after you, and I'm not going to be scared.
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So if, if you're not afraid of a dictator, you're not going to be afraid of a king.
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So a question for you, the part about LeBron that, that's most impressive, the way he's
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been handling a lot of stuff lately, it's, it's incredible.
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I want to see how this guy's handling stuff with Bronny, with his,
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his team, with leadership, with the way he's handling certain issues with the NBA,
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The part that's very impressive, this is a big guy.
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He goes through, he's been hit hard, he gets fouled hard, you know,
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because he's got muscle, so a lot of times he's probably hit even harder than we even
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Shaq lost, and he would, if somebody bullied him, his first season I watched Shaq play one
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time, he played Pistons, and he went in, and Alvin Robertson was a guy at that time,
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was pulling him down, and Alvin Robertson kind of goes up to him, and he pushes Shaq,
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This was the first season, like 10, 20 games into the season.
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So then you see Kobe comes in, and Kobe got into a fight with Miller, with, you know,
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Anthony, with the other guy from the Knicks, what was his name, all these guys that he
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All of these guys, like, how has LeBron never got into a fist fight with anybody in the
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Yeah, well, I think the one thing, NBA changed a lot of rules.
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You know, like, before then, you're getting a fist fight, you're only getting, like, ejected
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But now, you breathe on somebody, you get a $25,000 fight, and nobody wants that.
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I mean, nah, just, they just don't want to, they just don't want that.
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You know, of course, LeBron, people love him, and they just don't want to have that
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When I see him, I see him as a guy that glues, that brings everybody together.
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To see Dwight Howard play the way he's playing, right?
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I don't know if I've ever seen Dwight Howard this happy.
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And I think a lot of that has to do with LeBron's leadership.
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Do you think the game is more exciting today or 10 years ago, 20 years ago?
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Well, I think right now NBA is just, I mean, like I said, you breathe on a guy, they call
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I feel like back then it was just more physical, and you'll see that there was more back-to-basket
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players, but now it's all about shooting threes, no contact, just pick and pop, shoot
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I feel like back in the day, I feel like it was more excited.
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I said, you know, what do you think about the NBA right now?
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And he says, you know, I don't think the season is that exciting today.
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He says, because everybody's shooting threes, 43 or 53 a game.
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He says, I think it'd be more exciting if they made the three, like they took it back,
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I don't know, four feet, five feet, and so they added four-pointer, and then half-court,
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and then he said, if they took a dunk to three points instead of two points.
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He said, if they made a dunk three points instead of two points, then they're going
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to make the big guy, the game would change to be a big guy, because now if you've got
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So it would increase the level of wanting to play defense against the three.
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I would love it, because my game has always been like, you know, just back to basket,
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go inside and rebounds, putbacks, and post-up games.
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I do, but now everybody's like, you've got to be able to shoot the three.
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But, you know, like, if I'm shooting the three, who's going to get offensive rebounds?
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So it's like, but what he said is very interesting.
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We practiced there as a team last year, and I think they have a four-pointer just because
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So they put, like, in a practice facility, they put a four-pointer.
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When he said that to me, I said, you know what?
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But they seem, Silver seems a little bit creative that he may do it, but who knows?
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Being in the NBA, you played with the Jazz, you played with OKC, Knicks, Portland, now
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How do you handle the fact that the league is a trade league, where you're going?
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Because for me, when we have conversations, I always say, if I'm an NBA player, Major League
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Baseball player, or, you know, just somebody that's playing professional sports, if I'm
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in Hollywood, if I'm a singer, marriage and doing that while I'm playing, I don't know
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Well, I mean, one thing I learned is never buy a house.
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I mean, it's so tough because I see, like, I'm single.
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It's only me, but, like, I see, like, some of my players, teammates have, like, you know,
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they have kids going to school, they have wives having a job, and then this guy's getting
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Instead, you have to, you know, they take the, you know, but if they want to stay in
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But it's just tough, very hard transition, but it's just a cold business, man.
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It's a cold business, NBA, but you just got to stick with it.
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And I see someone, I see this guy had eight different teams in nine years.
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I think I said something like that, something crazy.
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Didn't he play for the Celtics one time or something?
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But when I look at you, man, you have a smile on your face all the time.
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Obviously, at the end of the E60 documentary when they did on you, at the end, you're very
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But you've got a lighthearted side of you that probably helps you handle issues like
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So you always have to be smiling, always have to be positive.
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You cannot show your enemies any weaknesses, you know.
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And I feel like God blessed me with so much, you know, on and off the court, you know.
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And I cannot be just be down on my teammates or any of my friends outside of basketball.
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So I always have to smile on my face and just go out there and just entertain people.
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Do you feel like you are the luckiest man alive to live in America and play basketball?
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Especially being in this situation, being in America.
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Because, I mean, not many countries have what this country has.
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You play basketball, you earn your respect, you earn your money.
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So I always try to tell my teammates or whenever I go to a school or a basketball camp to talk
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to the kids, I'm like, you guys are blessed to be in this situation.
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But, you know, transition with that into some of the political side.
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Because when I read your story and I hear your story, I relate to it.
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And I was born October 1878, three months before the Shah was in exile.
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So there's a lot of similarities with what's going on with the history there.
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And then from Germany, we wait for our green card.
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And then June of 99, I got out of the Army two months early to go swearing in L.A.
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So I remember the feeling of what it was like to become a citizen, especially for you.
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Now, the other part that we have in common is you're very vocal.
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You know, some of the things that I talk about where my investors sometimes say,
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How is it you're so comfortable talking about topics that most people are uncomfortable with?
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Well, because I know this matters more than basketball.
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This matters more than my, this is bigger than my career, basketball, NBA, and everything I'm doing.
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Because when, I mean, I am blessed because God gave me this platform.
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And I'm trying to use this platform to be a voice of all those innocent people who don't have one back in Turkey.
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And so I'm like, I can, I remember, man, just, I get this question a lot, am I crazy?
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Like this three words still comes to my mind all the time.
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My teammates, coaches, the fans, everybody asks me this question.
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Just keep your mouth shut, make your millions, just be happy and live a happy life.
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Like what are you doing with all those like dramas and all those threats and all that?
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Like I said, again, it's way bigger than everything I'm doing.
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I understand my family is still back in Turkey.
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There are a thousand families out there and they're suffering.
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So I cannot just be worried about my family or my career or my endorsement deals, whatever, and not talk about these issues.
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How do you, in your own mind, process that, you know, when you come out and you call the, you know, the president, the prime minister there, Hitler.
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I think you were in Romania at the airport when you were stuck there because they revoked.
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And then you finally make it to U.S. 48 hours later.
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You know, I mean, that's not like a regular thing to call somebody.
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So, I mean, if you look at what's happened in Turkey, first of all, in Indonesia, the reason I left, it all started because they tried to kidnap me in Indonesia.
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So, the Turkish government working with some of the countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Bosnia to, you know, to kidnap people there and send it to Turkey.
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So, when I had a basketball clinic in school in Indonesia, and, you know, they sent army and intelligence service to come and talk to me.
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So, luckily, we learned about that early and we left the country.
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And I went to Romania, they broke my passport and everything.
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But, you know, people know my story because I play an NBA, right?
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Because you guys know my story because I have this huge platform.
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But, you know, if you look at what's happening in Turkey, especially after that, I'll say fake coup attempt.
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Turkey is the number one country in the world that put most journalists in jail.
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And there are 17,000 innocent women are in a jail right now.
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And over almost 1,000 babies in the jail with their mother growing up in jails.
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Amnesty International, Human Rights, Human Rights Foundation are saying that people are getting kidnapped.
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So, I'm like, I'm trying to tell this world that, like I said again, I'm like, you guys know my story.
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And why is, so, why are they having such a challenging time?
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Like, when I look at politically right now, you hear what they're saying.
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But Obama, in 2006, right after the coup that happened, I think July 15, 2016.
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And then the next day, Mr. Gulen got and told the fact that, you know, we didn't know this was happening.
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But when he said that, when the coup took place, 249 lives, people died, all these things, is Barack Obama defended when he talked to Erdogan saying that nothing was really happening.
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And then Trump is also trying to make the right, so it's not a Democratic thing or Republican thing.
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Why is America playing the safe role with Turkey?
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What is the biggest concern America has with Turkey?
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Not many people know this, but when the coup attempt happened, that night I was with Mr. Gulen.
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He'd sit on his chair and pray for his country.
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He did not look like he was orchestrating a coup attempt because he was just sitting on his chair.
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And then people, I mean, I told this to some of the people, but he cried that night because over 200 people died.
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So, I mean, if you want to understand who did the coup attempt, you have to look at the benefits of coup attempt.
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And like I said, again, there has been lots of, you know, media outlets shut down.
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And after that coup attempt, he wanted to be the one-man show.
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So, I don't understand what America or Trump or Obama, what I was trying to do.
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I saw with my own eyes what this movement, what Mr. Gulen was doing.
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Yeah, but what I'm asking you is, if your movement is where it's at, why isn't, is there any involvement with U.S. to want to defend Mr. Gulen?
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Because in January, earlier this year, they were talking about possibly extraditing Mr. Gulen out of, I think he's staying somewhere in Pennsylvania, right?
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And to extradite him back over there because of negotiations with Erdogan and everything that's taking place here.
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Why are so many people concerned about Mr. Gulen?
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Because for me, when I lived in Iran, what I'm trying to figure out is the following.
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And then you have a bit of possibly Saddam Hussein or Mossadegh.
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Let's say the Shah, Reza Pahl, Mohamed Reza Pahlavi, who made Iran Americanized, he brought education, gave more power to women, freedom, all this other stuff.
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Ataturk, which is, he's a very well-respected, secular, he kind of made a little bit more open, freedom.
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And relationships got better because, you know, Turkey is like the bridge between Asia and Europe, right?
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Because Mr. Gulen, when you really dig deep and look at him, he's a brilliant guy.
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In the 60s, he started his movement and his messaging was different, very westernized.
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Hey, you know, go out there and make your money.
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And then he doesn't take the mosque route, he takes the education route.
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When you're with him, what vision is he casting to you?
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So, like you said, it is all about educating people.
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Because instead of going out there and building mosques, he believed that we need to go out there and build more schools.
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We need to educate people more, especially young generation.
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Because he believes we have lots of issues going on in our century because of uneducated people.
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And his thinking was, if we go out there, not just in Turkey, now this movement has schools over 170 countries in the world.
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You can be Jewish, you can be Catholic, you can believe in God, you don't believe in God.
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You can be Christian, you can go to these schools and learn about math and science.
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So, when I was with him, you know, of course, I asked him questions and stuff and he gave me his stuff.
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I asked him and he told me, it doesn't matter where you're from.
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The most important thing in life is leave your differences on the table and try to find what we have in common.
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So, that's why my thing was, so every time I go out there, so, like, my thing was, how can we educate people?
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How can we educate young generations so they can make their own decision and that decision will be right?
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Because, you know, you see his educational schools.
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It's obviously Erdogan shut down all his schools.
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Whether it was the newspaper, you know, the main newspaper, it was in media outlets.
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A lot of military, a lot of doctors, a lot of educators, a lot of nurses, a lot of them.
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But when they went and looked at the, I think, 60 Minutes in 2012 or 2013, went and investigated the schooling.
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The level of education was great, extremely creative.
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And in America, I don't know exactly how many campuses and how many states, but at that time, it was 127 in 30 states.
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I guess my biggest thing is, what is really his vision?
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What he's trying to accomplish is, like I said, again, just educate people and create a younger generation who can make their own choices.
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It's got to be a stepping stone to something, right?
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Just how can we educate our young generation so they can have a better future, they can make the right decisions and just have a, and respect each other.
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And those people, every time I see people who's in this moment, it's open to dialogue.
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You know, how can we respect other religions, how can we respect other cultures and learn from each other?
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You know, are you familiar with Scientology, the Church of Scientology?
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You're familiar with Baha'i, the religion of Baha'i?
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Yeah, my sister married a Baha'i family, very nice people, good people.
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But in the Muslim community, when the Khomeini went to Iran, he didn't like Baha'i.
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Anybody that was Baha'i, it was the same situation as Erdogan, very similar situation.
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So I don't, when I look at the, you know, Mr. Golan, what he's doing, I see an element
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of Baha'i and I see an element of Scientology where, in 2002, I was curious about religion.
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So I went and visited Scientology churches all the time.
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I would go in and they would say, you can be Christian, you can be part of this.
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You know, you can be Catholic, you can be part of this.
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This is about us having a common understanding.
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Would you say it's a similar model like that where it's not necessarily, you know,
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because you guys don't pray, you're allowed to drink.
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You can pray, but it's not something that's big on prayer, right?
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It's a little bit more flexible than a typical religion, you would think.
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I mean, no, no, Mr. Rikland himself is a very religious guy.
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But they are thinking, we can, you know, there is this thing people always say,
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He wants to mix science with religion and understanding, you know, just because, like I said, again,
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And instead of going out there and building mosques, he's thinking like, hey, people are already in a mosque and praying.
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You see, from my standpoint, when I lived in Iran, my mother's side wanted Khomeini to come.
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And Khomeini had a lot of similarities to Mr. Gulen, a lot, because he was a prophet.
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He was, like, seen as a calm man, loving man, caring man.
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So a lot of Iranians were like, yes, look at the Shah, you know, all he has is all this oil money.
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You know, when you see some of his interviews from years ago, he's a pretty, he would be a visionary guy.
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He sounds like a pretty strategic, you know, he doesn't seem like a lightweight guy that's just, there seems to be a vision behind it.
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You can't build this kind of an empire without a vision at the end of it.
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Like I said again, man, I think just big people, like, especially, like, who, this movement's followers, all they care about our future.
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All they care about how can we build our future better together.
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Here's one thing I, he says, Mr. Gulen said this, like, you know, you must move within the arteries of the system without anyone noticing your existence until you reach all the power centers.
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You must wait until a time where you have all the state power and you have brought to your side all the power of constitutional institutions in Turkey, right?
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Now, I get his point, fully get it, meaning, okay, that sounds like somebody that's a true believer.
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He doesn't sound like somebody that is not a true believer in his cause.
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Like, he's not happy about the way Erdogan's running.
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He's not happy with how Erdogan's running the country.
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I mean, if you look at it right now, I mean, that people are not happy.
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And then there's been lots of, you know, I don't know if you heard a lot of terrorist attacks and stuff.
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I mean, of course, I mean, what Turkey's going right now is a big mess.
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And, of course, he doesn't want his country to go through that kind of stuff, Mr. Gulen.
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So that's why I'm saying, that's why he's saying, if we build our future, if we build our young generation,
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we can have a better future and we can have a better country in the future.
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So I went and sat down with him and we talked about Iran.
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Okay, possibility of separate meetings, possibility of what can happen for Iran to be free.
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Look, you told me you love your country, not the government.
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I have, I'd love to take my family in Iran, Shotum, Khiavon, Hojet, where I grew up.
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At the end of the day, if you cut me right here, it's four things I bleed.
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I bleed America because this place gave me an opportunity.
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I was like, when I talk about these issues, people are thinking like, man, I don't like my country.
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But is your ideal vision, here's a question like an ideal vision, what an ideal vision
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would be for there to be a coup, to be a fall, because in Iran, there has to be one.
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You saw three weeks ago, I don't know if you followed it on, three weeks ago, 400 people
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Like the younger generation tried to do a revolution happening in Iran.
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I got messages, all this stuff that comes because through VPN, they can message you to
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But the part with you is, do you think an ideal situation for Turkey would be if there
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is a coup and then Mr. Gulen goes back and helps run the country?
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And he said there is nothing, nothing will, nothing will good come with Qutam, because
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He had no idea, because I was with that guy all night, so he had no idea.
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Because I remember going to, you know, I was with him, and one of his students, one of
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his followers, brought the news to him, and he was shocked, and he couldn't believe it.
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And then he followed the news, and then when he learned that around over 200 people died,
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So he had no idea there was going to be a coup attempt, and he does not want, I mean,
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he's a, he's an 80-year-old sick man, and he does not want to get in the country and
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He just wants peace, freedom, and democracy in the country.
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Remember that when they were, initially they were allies.
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There was only two times they were seen together.
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One of them was in a football match, soccer match, and one of them was in one of the meetings.
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The reporter asked him the same question, and he said we were never allies.
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How bad can the conditions get if America leaves Turkey the way it is with the way Erdogan's
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I mean, because, like, right now, I mean, America's power to put sanctions on Turkey
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and maybe hoping to change some kind of stuff, you know, something.
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And, but if not, you know, I feel like Erdogan will even destroy the country more.
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How do you think Trump's, President Trump's handling it right now?
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What did you think about the letter when you read it?
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Mario, can you grab a copy I put on my desk over there?
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Stop being like a tough guy, et cetera, et cetera.
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I mean, because he was, he is trying to act like, he is trying to act like a tough guy.
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He is trying to act like, Erdogan's trying to act like a tough guy.
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Erdogan, I feel like Erdogan, because like, I mean, when he comes to America, he wants to
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be like a good person, he wants to be a good people to hold Americans.
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But when he goes back to his country, he talks badly about America.
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And there's been lots of, I don't have it with me right now, but I can show you so many
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of them that he talks badly about, not just America, a lot of, a lot of countries.
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When we lived in Iran, you would see Madagat Omri called Death Upon America nonstop.
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But when it comes down to negotiation, hey, and then there's the death.
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I remember like watching, there's been like, the people are burning American flags in Turkey.
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It's like, you don't come here and play at one game and you go back to your country to
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So you like the way he's going right now, President Trump.
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You would like him to, in your ideal situation, put more sanctions, go through that.
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Because you know, sanctions are going to hurt the economy.
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Iran is in a terrible place right now financially.
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But I think till, see like, till he gets, till we get a freedom and democracy, I think
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America have enough power to just change everything.
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And if you put sanctions on him, his family and his wealth, then I think it's going to
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And if he does that, how do you worry about your dad?
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Like if they, it's like, what if they retaliate to you and they go that route?
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Is it still the fact that the vision is that important that you have to go look at the
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bigger picture of what could happen to Turkey long-term?
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The bigger picture we want is freedom and democracy.
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So that's why, I mean, if we, so like, we don't want, of course, I mean, I don't want
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But if we don't, if people are not happy, if already is like, there's been lots of people
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are dying and there's been a lot of terrorist attacks and Turkey's involved and, you know,
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happened with some of the terrorist groups, then you know what?
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I mean, just, I got, I think we got to put some sanctions on it.
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Final thoughts, Armenian genocide, when the Armenian genocide was announced.
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I know you and Ilhan, you guys had a bit of a follow-up when she said what she said
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My mother's Armenian, dad's a Syrian, you know, the whole Armenian genocide.
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What are your thoughts as a history of Armenian genocide?
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I mean, I think Ilhan Amar was the only person who did not sign the Armenian genocide.
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And I think about, if you feel about asking about Armenian genocide, I am not expert on
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that, but I heard from the many people that it did happen.
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So you heard from a lot of people that it didn't happen.
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I mean, I heard, I have lots of friends that, I mean, it's just, I have actually my,
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one of my best friends from Armenia and my, one of my best friends from Armenia.
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We look like we could be, you know, we're Turkish.
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I remember my, I swear to my assistant coach was Armenian.
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So I'm like, whenever I talk to him, I'm like, I got you, I get you guys.
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So first, whenever I see him, I try to sit down and talk to him and, you know, just,
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I'm always asking him, like, can you explain me the question, please?
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And so, can you explain me the situation, please?
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So I can have a better understanding of what's going on.
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Because I'm not that type of guy that, I'm not a close-minded guy.
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But before I say it, I really, really need to work on it.
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I need to more, especially after what, you know, Trump said.
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I don't know if you've read that, what Trump said about Armenian genocide.
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You're talking about the Senate bill being passed?
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Actually, Trump just said today that Armenian genocide did not happen.
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We can go to on our Twitter right now, and it was actually trending.
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And if you put on, we can look at it right now.
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Trump refuses to back recognition of Armenian genocide after Erdogan's death.
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So I think, I think Erdogan is using that as a pure negotiation to say,
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if you recognize it, I'm not doing nothing with you.
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Wow, that's pretty ugly if you got to that situation, by the way.
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So I feel sorry for people who is, I mean, of course, they probably feel very sad and very hurt.
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If you want to win, so many presidents have had a chance to win the...
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Obama, Bush, Clinton, Trump, everybody's had the chance to win it.
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A lot of people are asking me that, because I remember...
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So whenever I get to the Boston Celtics, they were watching NBA TV, they were watching ESPN.
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And they were asking me, hey, do you ever think about becoming one one day?
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I'm actually thinking about getting American politics one day.
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Well, you can be a president, but once you become a citizen, you can definitely go do other things.
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So what he do is to Erdogan, you're going to become to U.S.
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