Episode 427： 11 Ways To Get A Green Cards
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In this episode, we discuss the similarities between being an immigrant and working for a company or a country that is looking to attract talent. We also talk about the benefits that an immigrant would like to receive from a country or company.
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Asylum in Germany, to living in a refugee camp, to come into U.S. with a green card,
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to eventually becoming a U.S. citizen, June of 1999.
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We're going to talk about that in today's podcast.
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So before we get into the episode, let's first define what immigration means.
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It means the action of coming to live permanently in a foreign country.
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I want to come to U.S. to be an immigrant here.
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That is the form of immigration because I want to live here permanently.
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Now, what are the similarities between a company that attracts talent
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Because immigration is a way to attract the right kind of talent that comes to your country
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And at the same time, a company wants to attract the right kind of talent to grow within the company.
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Right now, you're going to see what the similarities they have.
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When they attract people, they want people of good values.
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They want somebody that's willing to work hard.
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If you come to my company, I want you to work hard.
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If you come to my country, I want you to work hard.
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And what I mean by that is if you're working for a company, find out how we got started.
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Or if you're living in our country, what's our culture?
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We want people that are bringing value over here.
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Companies want to recruit people that are educated.
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Countries want to recruit people that are educated.
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And both a company and a country wants to do a background check to make sure who they're
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getting is not somebody that has criminal history.
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And if they do, maybe they can consider it and make an exception.
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But at least we want to do some kind of a background check.
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That's what happens when countries and companies want to attract talent.
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And we want to know what country to take our family to live at.
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You want to work for a company that you know the company is going to be around.
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I don't mind working for a startup, but I kind of hope that the guy at the top has some
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money saved and he's got some stuff going on that's making the right decision.
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And if I'm living in a country, I want some kind of a security.
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I want some borders where I'm not going to worry about being attacked.
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And every time the enemy in Iraq would attack us and they would cross the borders, we had
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We were frightened because we were about to get bombed on.
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So, we want security as an immigrant who lived in another place.
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The other thing an employee wants, an opportunity.
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Look, I'd like to be able to move up in a company.
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I'd like to be able to go do something for myself as an individual in a country.
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I want to be able to have some kind of an opportunity to build my own business, maybe
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make more money, opportunity to advance, opportunity to educate myself, opportunity to get bigger
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I want that opportunity for the country to provide.
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I want to work for a company that gives benefits.
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Health benefits, retirement, maybe stock options.
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If I go live in a country, I would like some kind of benefits.
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Maybe a public education program, maybe some kind of a healthcare program, but I'm looking
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for some sort of a benefit that this country offers.
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I want to be able to have the freedom of leaving your company if I don't want to be with
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If I live in a country, I want to be able to go to a different place.
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If I seek freedom, I don't want to be here anymore.
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If I want to go somewhere else, no problem, you've got the freedom.
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When I work for a company, I want to be part of a community.
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I want to have some associates I'm working with.
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Or if I'm living in a country, you know, I want to have the opportunity to be part of
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Because there's some kind of a community there.
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Now, having said that, this is the perspective of two different people.
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Company, country, on how they want to attract the best type of people, then employee or individual
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that want to go to the best company or want to go to the best country, right?
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Now, having said this, let's continue with this metaphor to give you perspective.
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Now, a temp could be a consultant, a temp could be a contractor, a temp could be an hourly
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You're working, you know, 20 hours per week, or you're making 10 bucks an hour, or 15 bucks
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The same principle of temp in a company is a visa in a country, because visa is temporary.
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So you're coming here as if it's a visitor's badge to a country, right?
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So you're working temporary, you're a consultant, you're a contractor.
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They say, you know what, we want to keep you, and we'll give you a salary.
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You become a permanent employee with them, because now you're getting a salary.
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The salary comparison is to a green card within a country, because green card, now you have
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And we'll talk about what things you can do to lose your green card, but you're now somewhat
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And last but not least in the company is maybe you move up, maybe you become a C-suite, maybe
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you become on the board, you become an equity shareholder.
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The same reference to a country is when you become a citizen.
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You are now a citizen of that country, which means now you have the right to vote and say
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certain things that you like, and I don't know about this thing with the company, I don't
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know about that part, because shareholders can do that, and same thing, you can do that.
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So you kind of get in the flow on how this is going.
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I'm trying to give you this perspective of immigration.
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Now, the difference between a green card and a U.S. citizen, because a lot of times people
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What's the difference between benefits of a U.S. citizen?
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Number one, a green card is exit plus re-enter without the need for a visa.
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You don't need another visa every time to get it.
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A citizen is eligible to have a U.S. passport, but a green card is not.
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If you have a green card, you can get a U.S. passport.
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Number two, green card abandoned if out of the country for more than 180 days.
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If you're out of the country for 180 days, your green card's abandoned.
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On the other side, you can leave U.S. for as long as you want.
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Green card, not eligible to work for federal positions.
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U.S. citizen, you are, except to be a president.
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Green card, not eligible to vote in U.S. elections.
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Green card, eligible for deportation if certain crime is committed.
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Very important to see that, because on U.S. citizen, you cannot be deported.
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And last but not least on this end, you cannot petition for family members to come to the
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While as a U.S. citizen, you can petition for siblings, parents, and fiancé to get a visa.
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So now you kind of get the idea on the difference between a green card and a U.S. citizenship,
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Now having said that, 11 ways to get a green card in U.S.
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Number one is family, you're a relative of a U.S. citizen, to be able to apply.
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Number two is you're a relative of a green card holder.
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The green card holder is not trying to sponsor you, but you can say, I am related to this
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green card holder in U.S., her name is this, his name is this.
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Second part is employment, and they have different ways of doing it.
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The first one is called the first performance employment.
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This is somebody who's got extraordinary ability.
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We want you here because you just got some things that are very unique to the world, right?
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Four is employment second preference, which is professional with advanced degree.
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Number five is exceptional ability in science, art, and business.
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Number six, you have a bachelor's degree, or comparable to it in your country.
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Number seven is registered nurses and physical therapists.
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So, so far we've covered two of them, which is family and employment.
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The next one is, you know, what many say lottery, and what this is really all about, it happens
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once a year, it's in the month of October typically, and it's ran once a year to increase
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So, Mexico doesn't apply, India doesn't apply, and Canada doesn't apply, because that's not
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This is to attract people from nations that we don't have.
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By the way, to put it in perspective with what the data looks like, 23 million people
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You see videos with people sitting there going in October to see the date, and it says, not
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yet, decline, decline, and it's heartbreaking, and some that get its big celebration.
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You bring $500,000 to the country, and you go to a specific place that America wants you
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to go to, not New York, not LA, not Miami, not Chicago.
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You go to Montana, you go to Arkansas, you go to Oklahoma, certain places, and you put half
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a million there, and you create five full-time jobs.
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Or bring a million dollars to any city in America, LA, New York, doesn't matter where
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you go, and you create 10 full-time jobs as an entrepreneur, you also get a green card.
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And last but not least is the special immigrant, which is a religious worker, or foreign medical
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graduate, or permanent resident who left US for 12 plus months, and you want to come
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So those are 11 different ways to get your green card in US.
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Now, one of the topics you keep hearing about is asylum.
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Asylum is how I left Iran and went to Germany, and Germany accepted me, because asylum, the
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meaning of asylum is the protection granted by a nation to someone who left their country
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Now, as you're applying for this country to accept you as asylum, you have to have one
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of these five reasons that you're experiencing in your country.
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Form of discrimination against your race, religion, nationality.
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Maybe you have a membership of a particular social group, or last but not least, your
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So if I would have stayed in Iran longer because of my spiritual beliefs, or religious beliefs,
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or us being Armenian, whatever it was, that my family didn't feel safe, we left and we
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So now, you look at all this stuff and you say, well, Pat, what is really the issue that
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Well, this whole talk about amnesty is taking place.
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We currently have 45 million immigrants that are living in the U.S., which, by the way,
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just so you know, out of that 45 million, 10.6 million of the immigrants live in California.
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You've got another 4.5 million that live in Texas and in New York.
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If you add that up, that is 45% of all the immigrants in the U.S. live in three different
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We've got 50 states, 45% live in three different states, right?
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So when you look at this and you start thinking about the whole immigration, it is not that easy
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to just say, here's what we need to do, this is what we need to do, that's what we need
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I always like to look at it from everybody's perspective.
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Let me give it to you from the perspective of those from Mexico or El Salvador that are trying
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Cartel, Mexico, the country's not doing the right thing for their people.
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You got three kids, two daughters, and you got a wife, right?
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The next door neighbor's daughter gets taken advantage of.
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The local cartel took advantage of the daughter.
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They did whatever they wanted to do with the daughter.
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Father couldn't do anything about it because it would have killed him, his wife, and everybody
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He can't pick up the phone and call the cops because the cartel's already paid off the cops.
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If somebody comes in, if you shoot them, another guy comes in.
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They're going to shoot everybody in your family.
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You either have to join them and win them over and have them as protection, or you have
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to get into politics, or you have to escape or constantly move your family.
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And you don't have a lot of resources to do it.
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So I don't blame a father who is sitting there thinking about these thoughts, being forced
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to think about these thoughts, on what he needs to do to protect his daughters and his
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So if he says, listen, we either got to go live in a completely different country, or
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You have to go into a new country with a little bit of money, any language you don't speak,
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So I don't blame the father or the parent who crossed these thoughts, goes through his
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Now, at the same time, I don't blame a country like America saying, listen, we understand,
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we're sorry you're going through this, but a million people seeked asylum the last six
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Only 12% of them actually qualified to be asylum.
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Last year, we gave 26,000 of them in 2018 asylum.
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It's the highest we've had in a long time, but we can't also help everybody.
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And we need to put a wall between Mexico and U.S.
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Because they're trying to come from South to U.S.
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Because Canada, as a country, is taking care of their individuals, and so these individuals
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Just like when you meet somebody that's worked for a company for 32 years, and they don't
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Because that company takes care of that employee.
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But in Mexico, the country isn't taking care of the individual, and they're losing people,
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and they want to go to the country U.S., which has the most immigrants, 45 million, because
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U.S. offers the best benefits to the individual.
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And you're looking at this saying, okay, Pat, but we've got 45 million people living in
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I don't know the exact number, but we'd say 10 or 12 million, we've got living in the U.S.
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See, I understand that the 42-year-old person that's living here, whose parents came and
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crossed the border while she was 14 years old, it's not her fault that they did this.
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Look, I totally understand the father that's trying to leave Mexico to come to U.S.
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But you still broke the law of trying to enter a country where the country's responsibility
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is to provide security to its citizens that are already living there.
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So I understand the country's frustration as well of you breaking the law.
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Then they sped up my process to be a U.S. citizen.
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I got out of the army one month early to go swear and become a U.S. citizen.
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That was my story on how I got out of the army.
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If the person wants amnesty, you got to earn it.
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And it's got to be a system on how you earn it.
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Military, education, job, credibility, consistency with the company, with the credit.
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But something has to be shown for you to gain it.
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And that exchange for the amnesty of you getting a green card and eventually becoming a citizen
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is having to be abided by the individual who wants to live in this country because you came to this country.
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So when you come to a place that you want to live, you have to abide by their laws.
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