00:04:40.680I'm going to actually follow the diet this time because there's some reason I'm not getting back into the conditioning that I used to get into.
00:04:48.080You know, with my abs deep and my lower abs good and all that stuff, I wasn't seeing that.
00:04:55.740Let me try something different this time.
00:04:57.480I'm going to cut all of that crap out.
00:04:59.240I cut everything that I used to do that I always believed in keeping in my diet, you know, because I'm the blade and I can get away with it.
00:05:07.860I cut it all out and I actually followed the diet.
00:05:10.880And, man, I was so peeled and shredded.
00:05:13.020I mean, this was days, you know, weeks out, and we had to actually slow it down a lot.
00:05:19.780And but as you saw, at 50 years old, I was I was right on point.
00:05:56.260I have no, you know, there's no bitching and griping coming off of me.
00:05:59.640And, you know, their decision is their decision, and I'm cool with that.
00:06:02.160But me, on how I feel, I feel that a bodybuilder has to make adjustments and try and be better than he was the previous outing, which is what I did.
00:06:15.300And once you do that, you know, I felt that I was, I was, I should have been, I should have won the competition.
00:06:47.240As far as right now being 50 competing versus 40 competing, 30 competing, 25 competing, what's the biggest difference you're feeling with your body?
00:06:57.500I really don't feel anything with my body, to be honest with you.
00:07:00.820I don't have any aches or pains anywhere.
00:07:03.800That newbie machine I use for my legs has taken so much pressure off my knees that I don't feel anything in my knees.
00:07:10.920So I'm able to go heavier than I've normally, you know, than I've normally been going.
00:07:16.540And, and it still keeps the pressure off my knees.
00:07:19.960So that's why I've been able to bring my legs back.
00:28:04.600So, Arnold Classic, when you guys were competing and the whole controversy happened with coronavirus, how was that handled when you were going?
00:28:10.460I know about a quarter of a million people couldn't go to the expo.
00:28:15.480There were some people that were partners.
00:28:17.340How was that frenzy when you were in it?
00:28:56.060I think for the people, I mean, because it's a sad situation.
00:28:59.680I can understand exactly where both parties are, you know, coming from, you know, especially Arnold because this show has been going on so long.
00:29:11.540And, plus, you know, he's, I mean, it's the biggest thing in Ohio.
00:29:18.500And, for them to shut it down was pretty, you know, without even, I think, from what I've heard, I'm not 100% sure, but this is just what I heard.
00:29:29.600They shut it down without even consulting him first.
00:29:32.480You know, it's a news conference and they call Arnold while they had the news conference, while they was giving the conference.
00:29:39.640So, that was pretty much a slap in the face.
00:29:42.800But, if things were done the right way, I can understand where the government was coming from as well.
00:29:51.320You know, Arnold thing is, you still got Cavalier games that's got 30,000 people, 20,000 people at the game.
00:32:02.120So, I don't know what that was supposed to do.
00:32:06.440Maybe if your temperature was higher than what they were looking for, they probably would have put you to the side and did some more tests or whatever.
00:32:15.540But, as long as you – you know, your temperature was low, you was fine.
00:33:04.640I think the whole thing came down to – they was getting a lot of heat from – you know, people that was – you know, people that didn't want this expo to go down.
00:33:21.540That's the main – from what I understand, that's what really did it.
00:33:25.240It made the government step up and say, we, you know, we need to shut it down because you would get so many people complaining about, you know, complaining about it.
00:33:33.940Yeah, I wonder if Governor DeWine has a relationship with Arnold and if there's any kind of a connection with him, Trump, because, you know, him and Trump, the whole show and their level of competitiveness for each other.
00:33:47.880I don't know – obviously, DeWine is a Republican.
00:33:50.360Or Arnold's a Republican or – Arnold's a Republican or Trump's a Republican, but Arnold's a different kind of Republican than DeWine.
00:33:56.140I don't know the decision-making behind of it – behind it.
00:33:59.120I do know – how is this being talked about for Mr. Olympia?
00:34:04.800Is there any talks that if this continues, the same could happen with Mr. Olympia?
00:48:40.900I thought it was like November or something.
00:48:42.460Well, I mean, if you think about this, because you can still stay true to your commitment of saying, I'm retiring in 2020.
00:48:47.880Anyways, I'm not trying to throw a wrench in there.
00:48:50.760I'm sure that Mr. Olympia people are already pissed off enough with me that this is just adding, can this guy who's got a channel on entrepreneurship stop talking about you?
00:48:58.280No, no, no, no, because I just, to be honest with you, I just had eight weeks in your mind.
00:50:08.160But I think what Phil is doing is, remember how you said also is when you said when you were training back in your 20s, 30s, it was kind of like, you know, I can eat anything in abs.
00:50:15.960And then I learned that I don't have to do free weights because I wanted to take care of my joints.
00:50:20.100So you saw your peers kind of hurting themselves, squatting 800 pounds.
00:50:23.340He said, look, I'm going to make some adjustments.
00:50:24.820Like the machine that you found with your legs and how it helped you build up.
00:50:27.680And then you found out with the abs, with the probiotics you don't want to tell us about that you eventually will.
00:50:32.700Maybe Phil is also sitting there saying, this is about contacts and relationships.
01:12:39.820But one thing I am, I'm a straight shooter.
01:12:42.280If you don't want to be told the truth, I'm very, I have no filter, and I'm going to tell you straight up what's wrong and what's not wrong.
01:15:03.100I've always said, you know, I wouldn't take less than $500,000 from a supplement deal because I feel that I'm lowering the standards of the sport when it comes to us guys making money from contracts from supplement deals or something.
01:15:20.660So I would never take a deal, anything less than that, you know, and I would say, but I'm blessed and fortunate enough to say, you know what?
01:15:41.780No, no, I'm saying, no, I had contracts, but when, like, say, for instance, when muscle tech, when muscle tech comes, I said, OK, I had other companies, supplement companies coming with deals.
01:16:27.420Post-retirement, are you planning on doing whatever you do with your businesses within the industry, like supplements, things that are within the field?
01:16:32.900Yeah, I definitely got my own supplement and I'm getting ready to launch.
01:16:35.420It's the Dexter Jackson signature series.
01:16:36.880So I'm getting ready to launch that and a few other things.
01:16:41.440I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag.
01:16:42.180Are you going to have that probiotic part of your Dexter Jackson or no?
01:16:50.300All I'm saying is if you are doing something with that, because if it's that effective, let me tell you, that's a good way to position yourself.