Valuetainment - Episode 481： Costco Kevin Cuts Membership Card & Responds to Mask Controversy

00:00:00.000 30 seconds.

00:00:30.000 The video went viral and I said, let me just give him a platform to see what his argument

00:00:34.200 is, why he's so upset that Costco kicked him out.

00:00:37.460 Costco, Kevin, I know it's not your real name.

00:00:39.440 Thanks for being on ValueTaming.

00:00:40.420 Tell us what happened when you went into Costco that day.

00:00:42.800 Thank you, Patrick.

00:00:43.560 Okay, so it was like any other day.

00:00:45.540 I needed to pick up a few supplies.

00:00:48.160 I walk into Costco.

00:00:50.700 I was checked for my card at the door, but they did not ask me to put a mask on at the

00:00:55.860 door.

00:00:56.040 So I go about my business, load up my shopping cart.

00:01:00.240 About 10 minutes later, a manager confronts me near the back of the store and says, hey,

00:01:04.620 you got to go.

00:01:06.120 You're not wearing a mask.

00:01:07.780 So I said, okay, cool.

00:01:09.120 I've got all I need.

00:01:10.080 I'm leaving.

00:01:10.660 I'm going to go to the checkout.

00:01:12.200 So then he kind of falls back.

00:01:15.100 Next thing you know, there's a swarm of about six of these people starting to walk up on

00:01:19.740 me, following me.

00:01:21.120 And the guy said, hey, we're not going to let you check out because you're not wearing

00:01:25.040 a mask.

00:01:25.500 And I was like, look, I already got my stuff.

00:01:27.160 Just let me check out and I'm gone.

00:01:30.100 So he goes, stands on the edge of my cart.

00:01:32.900 He's holding it.

00:01:34.480 That's where I pull out my camera to film this interaction.

00:01:37.560 That's where it boiled over.

00:01:39.360 His attitude changed drastically.

00:01:41.460 So he's this presentable, happy Costco employee on the video.

00:01:45.300 He was a little bit differently earlier.

00:01:48.440 Obviously, if you get put on video, though, you're going to change.

00:01:50.880 You're working there.

00:01:51.420 You don't want to get fired.

00:01:52.260 He says what he has to say.

00:01:55.140 And then he proceeds to take the cart from my hands.

00:01:57.320 I'm holding on to it pretty firmly, but not going to try to start an actual fight over

00:02:01.780 this thing.

00:02:02.400 So he takes the cart.

00:02:04.000 I boil over a little bit.

00:02:06.040 He leaves with the cart.

00:02:08.060 Video ends.

00:02:09.340 I wind up going back over to him saying, hey, I'm giving my girlfriend my cards, my debit card and my Costco card.

00:02:17.300 And she's going to buy this stuff and I'm going to leave.

00:02:19.540 So that's kind of how it ended off camera is he walked her up to a register, had her ring out, pretty much walked her to the door.

00:02:28.880 She had a mask on.

00:02:29.840 Your girlfriend had a mask on. 1.00

00:02:31.540 Not when she walked in, but she has a mask from work.

00:02:34.520 She put the mask on when she started feeling the heat because she's not as standoffish as I am, perhaps, you know?

00:02:43.380 Okay.

00:02:43.760 So she put her mask on and this employee takes her to the counter.

00:02:47.800 Does she end up paying and being able to leave with everything or no? 0.99

00:02:50.600 Yeah.

00:02:50.920 She's able to pay. 0.80

00:02:51.820 She's able to leave with everything.

00:02:53.640 He walks her to the door.

00:02:54.880 I drive up.

00:02:56.140 We just load up and then we leave.

00:02:58.920 And then later that night, I'm still fuming, right?

00:03:02.820 Like you're so angry because you're just driving home in your car and you're just so mad thinking about everything that happened.

00:03:08.840 And I just got totally trampled on.

00:03:11.400 So I have a Reddit page that I wasn't thinking was linked up to my business.

00:03:19.280 Big mistake.

00:03:20.460 Never leave a political opinion if it's linked to your business.

00:03:23.100 So I post that video into a forum on Reddit.

00:03:28.760 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:03:30.840 Hay starts coming in.

00:03:31.780 Hay starts coming in, right?

00:03:33.380 So then if that wasn't smart enough, I decide to make a response video where I'm calling these people sheep in the video saying, look, it's not about the mask.

00:03:43.180 It's about control.

00:03:44.980 The premise being is that we're being conditioned to accept collectivism where the group has rights over the individual.

00:03:53.100 And I'm an individualist.

00:03:54.420 I feel that every single individual has rights.

00:03:56.840 But under socialism, you would know that the individual loses the rights as the group gains them over that individual.

00:04:04.120 So I make this video, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh.

00:04:07.080 I go to sleep.

00:04:08.400 The next day I wake up.

00:04:09.940 400 angry messages in my Reddit inbox.

00:04:14.320 People are going crazy.

00:04:15.800 I do not want this thing to affect my business.

00:04:19.120 I'm starting to see one-star Yelp reviews, one-star Google reviews, people doxing my name and information.

00:04:24.880 His name is da, da, da, this is where he lives.

00:04:27.340 So I remove the videos because I don't need my livelihood being affected by some choice words that I said and opinion I had.

00:04:35.400 So the media makes it sound like I took my video down because I'm somehow rescinding my statement or I didn't mean what I said.

00:04:43.620 That's not what happened.

00:04:45.100 So I take the videos down, but they'd already been recorded.

00:04:49.160 They'd been re-uploaded onto bigger Reddits.

00:04:51.800 And then it disseminated and it went viral from there.

00:04:55.280 Your response or the original video?

00:04:58.100 My original video and the response.

00:05:00.440 But that original video just took off way more.

00:05:03.920 How many views did that get?

00:05:05.100 How many views did your first original video get?

00:05:08.580 I'm not sure because it was on Reddit and it was like upvotes.

00:05:13.060 I don't know if there's a view counter on that, but...

00:05:16.200 I mean, it's all over YouTube.

00:05:17.540 It's all over Facebook.

00:05:18.400 It's been shared everywhere.

00:05:19.960 Exactly.

00:05:20.660 We've seen it everywhere.

00:05:21.880 So your biggest frustration here is what?

00:05:24.660 You went into a business like Costco and you refused to wear a mask, but did Costco have a sign outside saying that we require everybody to wear a mask when they come in or no?

00:05:35.920 Yes.

00:05:36.500 Yes, they did.

00:05:37.560 And, you know, I want to tell people that, like, you know, my personal rights and liberties don't end where Costco's, you know, private policies to begin.

00:05:45.920 So we've seen this argument.

00:05:47.400 Well, Costco's a private business.

00:05:48.880 They can ask you to wear a mask.

00:05:50.480 They can ask you to leave, et cetera, et cetera.

00:05:52.540 Well, I left.

00:05:54.220 But I don't view Costco's rights.

00:06:00.500 How would I say this?

00:06:01.840 I don't believe that Costco can tell me that, hey, you got to put a mask on your face.

00:06:05.720 Hey, we put the sign...

00:06:06.680 You don't think Costco can tell you to wear a mask when you go into their place of business?

00:06:10.900 Yes, correct.

00:06:11.760 Because unlike a normal business, I signed a contract to be there, so I'm a paying member.

00:06:20.260 So I have, like, a right to be there, not a privilege.

00:06:22.660 So in my opinion, that's not in the terms and conditions of the contract that I signed.

00:06:27.620 Unfortunately, you're not right.

00:06:29.980 And by the way, you're talking to a guy who doesn't wear masks.

00:06:33.040 I go to Capitol Grill right here, and I go to Del Frisco's, and I go to Toulouse.

00:06:41.260 I'm going to dinner.

00:06:41.920 Today's my daughter's birthday, and I'm surprised when I'm taking her on a date night.

00:06:44.660 She's four years old today.

00:06:45.920 So I got a nice little place I'm going to take her. 1.00

00:06:48.260 I go to restaurants that don't wear masks.

00:06:51.200 So again, I'm not a mask guy.

00:06:53.960 I think it's disgusting to wear a mask and serve food for me because the entire time you've

00:06:58.120 been spitting into the mask.

00:06:59.040 So I'm not a fan of the mask, but just like some YouTube channels went and sued YouTube

00:07:05.000 to say you cannot take our videos down, and they have the right to do so.

00:07:08.900 By the law, the First Amendment doesn't have anything to do with corporate's decisions on

00:07:14.360 what they want to do.

00:07:15.460 Costco doesn't have to have you as a member if you refuse to wear their mask.

00:07:19.080 So that's the one part that you got to know that audience has to know that you went in

00:07:23.040 knowing Costco said you have to wear a mask, and you knew that in advance.

00:07:27.360 So to Costco's defense, they can say, we don't want you to wear a mask and refuse business.

00:07:34.700 To your defense, you can go out there and not wear a mask if you don't want to in public.

00:07:39.260 And if the government decides to do something to you, they're crossing the line, but not

00:07:44.140 if a business decides to, because those are two different things.

00:07:46.640 And I think at this point in the game, you kind of have an idea about those two differences.

00:07:50.100 Yes?

00:07:50.320 Yes, and I absolutely do, and I already did.

00:07:53.920 As a small business owner, as a libertarian, I completely understand all of the ramifications

00:07:59.420 behind what you just said.

00:08:00.920 But I really want to get across the point that this wasn't an organic Costco policy.

00:08:06.020 This was kind of like government mandate by proxy, which created that Costco policy.

00:08:11.900 And one of the biggest reasons why small businesses aren't allowed to be open in the

00:08:15.700 first place is because they're not sure if those small businesses are going to be able

00:08:19.620 to comply to these rules and regulations.

00:08:22.560 And so that's why these big box stores are open is because they know that they will follow

00:08:27.740 those rules and regulations.

00:08:28.940 And then I've got a big problem with small businesses not being open because it's crushing

00:08:34.120 the American people.

00:08:35.360 And people say, hey, why don't you go somewhere else then?

00:08:38.660 And I say, hey, why don't they open somewhere else?

00:08:41.500 Hey, Costco is a private business, you know?

00:08:44.200 Hey, these other businesses are private businesses.

00:08:46.720 And look at the government interfering and saying that you can't open your business.

00:08:51.720 Now, I didn't take it to a mom and pop, right?

00:08:54.260 I didn't just walk into a baker shop and say, hey, I'm not wearing your mask, John.

00:08:58.400 I kind of took it to like the epicenter of the enforcement, if you will.

00:09:06.640 And I'm always about like change starting from the grassroots.

00:09:09.520 Like I can't write the CEO of Costco a letter and complain, it'll fall on deaf ears or the

00:09:15.000 governor.

00:09:15.560 So sometimes you have to get in the face of the person that's already in your face, trying

00:09:20.800 to enforce what you don't think is right.

00:09:23.140 So in fairness, I would say I acknowledged his right to ask me to leave.

00:09:28.560 I exercised my first amendment.

00:09:30.800 I gave him a piece of what I thought, but then I left.

00:09:34.380 I didn't assault him.

00:09:35.900 I didn't stay behind.

00:09:37.020 They didn't call the cops.

00:09:38.940 So-

00:09:39.520 I agree.

00:09:40.060 I think all of that is fine.

00:09:41.820 I think the statement was made that some people are very frustrated with having to

00:09:46.020 wear a mask.

00:09:47.220 I'm at my company right now.

00:09:48.520 I'm not at my house.

00:09:49.280 This is my office here.

00:09:50.240 I got my employees out there and we're coming back from 25% to 50%.

00:09:54.580 I'm in a little bit of a more business friendly state than you are.

00:09:57.900 Colorado, I'm in Texas.

00:09:59.200 I moved here from California four years ago for that exact reason, because they're more

00:10:02.500 friendly here.

00:10:03.780 But those are the choices that you have to make.

00:10:06.220 And I have a question for you.

00:10:07.320 Now that you're experiencing that in the state of Texas, in the state of Colorado, is that

00:10:12.240 influencing you to consider leaving your state to another place?

00:10:15.320 That's such a great question.

00:10:17.560 Yeah.

00:10:17.740 I'm looking at Florida.

00:10:18.980 I see what the governors are doing in the blue states to drag down the economy, artificially 0.94

00:10:24.400 raising unemployment numbers.

00:10:25.580 That is an invite saying, hey, we're inviting you to leave.

00:10:29.000 If you're not happy with this, you got to go.

00:10:31.840 And man, there's a lot of business owners, both Democrat and Republican here.

00:10:35.560 And there's still people going along with this.

00:10:38.200 Like my favorite sushi place says, we don't think we're opening our doors until July.

00:10:43.180 And it's like, you're going to take that?

00:10:44.880 Like, I only see that Americans are fighting to reopen this thing, which is why we're opening

00:10:50.360 it, not because of coronavirus infection rates.

00:10:52.920 And, you know, they just now started to allow small businesses in Colorado to start reopening

00:11:00.000 under extremely strict regulations, which are totally outside of law, only because 421

00:11:07.100 restaurants said, come Monday, hell or high water, we're opening and we don't care what

00:11:12.380 you say.

00:11:13.020 Great.

00:11:14.100 Great.

00:11:14.580 And that's what's going to happen.

00:11:15.540 Because, you know, a story like you, I mean, it's inevitable.

00:11:19.040 You're not the only story that's happened.

00:11:20.380 Maybe you recorded it and it got out there, I guarantee you, there are tens of thousands

00:11:24.360 of stories like yours that went to a place, refused to wear a mask.

00:11:27.780 They got kicked out.

00:11:28.460 They just didn't record it.

00:11:29.720 But you are not the only person that's frustrated about wearing a mask to go to a place.

00:11:33.760 Here's the other question for you.

00:11:35.380 Have you decided to stop your membership with Costco due to what just happened?

00:11:40.200 You know, I have not decided to stop my membership at Costco because I understand that they can revoke

00:11:49.020 my membership if they want to, but I'm going to continue giving them business because they've

00:11:54.000 got the plug on a few different products I need.

00:11:56.840 And I kind of need to go there for those products.

00:11:59.540 I might try to find a way to replace those products.

00:12:02.120 But, you know, quite frankly, at the end of the day, I handled myself poorly.

00:12:07.000 The manager, Tyson, handled himself poorly.

00:12:09.820 We were bumping heads and nobody was a cupcake in this situation.

00:12:13.300 So that being said, I'll walk in there when they stop having this mask policy and I'll

00:12:20.700 begin shopping there again.

00:12:22.180 So you're going to go back to Costco?

00:12:24.500 Yeah, but they have to just drop this mask policy.

00:12:27.040 Like, I'm not trying to create, like, a legal situation.

00:12:30.860 What if they don't?

00:12:31.480 You're going to send your girlfriend to go shopping instead of you? 1.00

00:12:33.740 I thought about that.

00:12:34.660 She's more comfortable with the mask.

00:12:36.600 No, it's over, man.

00:12:38.480 It's over.

00:12:39.040 And actually, as a matter of fact, I want to start a whole F Costco, support small business

00:12:44.920 sort of a thing because, man, all these big box stores are just raking it in, raking it

00:12:51.500 in, raking it in.

00:12:52.260 And small business has been hurting for three months now.

00:12:54.560 So I think when things start opening back up, we need to look at a situation like this

00:12:58.800 and say, hey, we got to support small business.

00:13:01.460 We got to stop supporting these big box stores as much because middle class America is going 1.00

00:13:06.420 down and they're going down fast.

00:13:08.160 There was no bailout for us.

00:13:10.140 There were small business loans, which just puts business owners further in debt.

00:13:14.580 But we didn't get golden parachutes and bailouts.

00:13:17.160 And even Jeff Bezos got a bailout.

00:13:19.600 And his company was killing it.

00:13:21.680 So, you know, I think that, you know, this just needs to open up a discussion as to, like,

00:13:26.320 whether we want to continue being patrons at a place like Costco.

00:13:29.840 I don't believe they're capitalists.

00:13:31.400 I believe they're crony capitalists.

00:13:33.100 But if you're going to go back to them, you're saying that you're okay with what they're

00:13:36.960 doing.

00:13:37.240 So if you're going to make a statement, you got to revoke your relationship with them

00:13:41.360 and your membership for you to have some kind of credibility behind your voice.

00:13:44.300 You can't say, I don't like the fact that you make me wear a mask, but can I please come

00:13:48.120 and buy that milk?

00:13:48.880 That's a discounted for seven bucks.

00:13:51.060 You know, you got it.

00:13:51.640 You got it.

00:13:51.960 If you're going to do it, you got to take a stand one of those two places.

00:13:54.680 But what I will tell you...

00:13:56.080 I'm going to take a stand right now.

00:13:57.960 Let me go grab some scissors. 1.00

00:13:59.040 Hold on.

00:13:59.800 All right.

00:13:59.940 Let's see what you got.

00:14:00.840 Oh my gosh.

00:14:05.900 Costco is going to contact us and say, why did you make us lose a customer?

00:14:10.460 Man, we wanted this Costco Kevin back.

00:14:13.280 All right.

00:14:14.460 I'm back, man.

00:14:15.260 I got some scissors, okay?

00:14:16.460 Let's see what you're going to do here, Costco Kevin.

00:14:18.020 Let's just bring it, Patrick.

00:14:19.500 All right.

00:14:20.040 Where is this stupid card at?

00:14:21.520 I'm surprised I didn't throw it out the window on my way home.

00:14:25.200 Here's Costco, okay?

00:14:27.040 Here's my Costco card.

00:14:28.180 You see that, right?

00:14:29.080 Yes.

00:14:30.080 All right.

00:14:30.640 Let's just see if I can't...

00:14:34.180 There we go.

00:14:35.500 So it's official for you now.

00:14:37.600 We broke up, baby.

00:14:40.800 Sam's Club, here I come.

00:14:42.180 People were like, you need to shop at Sam's Club instead.

00:14:45.460 Maybe I'm going to take your recommendation.

00:14:47.180 There it is.

00:14:48.160 There it is.

00:14:48.940 And I advise everybody, if you don't like your rights being trampled,

00:14:52.080 I don't believe that your rights end where a company's rights begin.

00:14:56.880 And I want to say, you know, people are really trying to devalidate my statement

00:15:01.320 because I violated a Costco policy.

00:15:03.300 It does not take away the validity of the statement that I made.

00:15:07.360 And we're dealing with a company that in 2019 releases the modern transparency,

00:15:13.280 the modern slavery transparency statement written by the CEO of Costco

00:15:18.300 where they openly admit to working with people in their supply chain

00:15:22.360 that still use companies that are involved with human rights violations,

00:15:27.700 you know, like human trafficking, slavery, people that abuse employees in other ways.

00:15:32.960 And we're over here talking about me flouting a policy.

00:15:35.960 Let's talk about why does Costco, in this transparency letter,

00:15:39.220 say that they openly tolerate the use of slavery?

00:15:42.120 I think you've got a few different arguments going on here.

00:15:46.780 One of your arguments is the fact that you don't want to be forced to wear a mask,

00:15:50.820 which, fine, in a public, I get it, but when it comes down to a business,

00:15:54.820 they can say you have to wear a mask.

00:15:56.520 And the reason, like, for instance, my wife and I today were talking about

00:15:59.320 having a birthday party and inviting the kids.

00:16:01.820 My four-year-old daughter's friends to her house for a pool party.

00:16:05.520 She says, what do we do?

00:16:07.300 Do I invite everybody?

00:16:08.540 It's nine kids in a classroom.

00:16:09.900 I said, babe, invite and let everybody know that we fully understand

00:16:14.560 if they refuse to show up because they're uncomfortable with it

00:16:17.420 because we're comfortable with it.

00:16:19.440 But if they're not, we don't take it personally.

00:16:21.260 We don't want it to be something where our daughter doesn't get invited to her friends

00:16:24.600 because you know how the whole technical thing when you have kids is,

00:16:27.140 oh, you didn't invite our daughter to your birthday?

00:16:28.780 We're not going to invite her to our, I don't want my daughter to experience that,

00:16:31.680 but we're okay inviting them over.

00:16:32.980 She says, okay, that's cool.

00:16:34.240 They have a choice to say no.

00:16:35.700 And we have the choice of telling them we want you to be here.

00:16:37.880 So it's such a technical place because even at our workplace,

00:16:41.660 some people have masks on.

00:16:43.360 Some people don't want to wear masks.

00:16:45.060 I was at Yardhouse just literally 15 minutes before doing the interview with you.

00:16:49.060 And I'm standing there.

00:16:50.160 I'm talking to the front desk hostess.

00:16:52.380 And I said, so is traffic back up at Yardhouse?

00:16:54.360 She says, it's coming up.

00:16:55.500 A guy behind me says, oh my gosh, Patrick, David, I watch all your content.

00:16:59.880 What's up?

00:17:00.360 How you doing?

00:17:01.200 He's with his girlfriend.

00:17:02.060 It's one of these uncomfortable things.

00:17:04.120 Like, what do we do?

00:17:05.100 And I said, I put my hand out.

00:17:07.240 I said, I'm comfortable shaking hands if you are.

00:17:09.940 He says, shit, I'm comfortable.

00:17:11.520 He shook my hand.

00:17:12.740 But it's his choice to say no.

00:17:14.300 Then we go here.

00:17:15.520 So I think there's got to be an out for you to say, I refuse to go to Costco.

00:17:20.000 There's certain restaurants.

00:17:20.800 My wife will tell you that there are certain businesses I will never go back to.

00:17:24.700 My wife and my family were heavy duty Costco customers.

00:17:27.820 We've been there for 30 years of being customers of Costco.

00:17:30.020 But I'm also not a person that goes to businesses when they ask me to wear a mask.

00:17:34.240 I kind of don't do it myself.

00:17:36.580 I like to go to places where I don't have to wear a mask.

00:17:38.440 And when everything settles, then I'll go back to that business myself, but my wife's 1.00

00:17:41.220 comfortable doing it.

00:17:42.140 You have the choice.

00:17:43.300 The other part about small businesses and then bailing out the bigger companies, that's

00:17:46.860 a complete different conversation, which many people agree with you on these bigger companies

00:17:52.360 being bailed out.

00:17:53.060 Harvard getting an $8.55 million check when they got $40 billion in their endowment, but

00:17:59.080 that's a complete different story.

00:18:00.500 Now, were you an essential business or a non-essential business, the business that you run yourself?

00:18:05.420 So yeah, it's automotive services, so it's considered essential.

00:18:09.120 That being said, when the lockdown happened, March and April, I was getting hammered.

00:18:13.420 It was just almost non-existent still.

00:18:16.160 How are you doing now?

00:18:16.980 Is it kind of recovered?

00:18:18.660 Yeah, it's recovered a little bit, but then all of a sudden, once the haste started coming

00:18:22.720 in, all my Google calls just stopped coming in.

00:18:25.380 Did you really stop getting the Google calls?

00:18:28.020 Yeah, I stopped getting Google calls.

00:18:29.380 I stopped getting Yelp calls.

00:18:31.440 Yelp is actually working with me on removing those reviews, though.

00:18:35.320 And right now, it's just recurring and supportive customers.

00:18:37.980 I had about four cancellations, about $1,600 worth of work canceled like that, which I needed

00:18:44.660 really bad because I got to recover from a winter where I don't have much business.

00:18:50.360 Because these are supposed to be three of my busiest months of the year, supposed to live

00:18:54.720 off my savings.

00:18:56.340 So I'm being punished financially for voicing an opinion that may or may not be popular,

00:19:03.080 which is it's not about the mask.

00:19:05.160 It's about control.

00:19:06.360 That's the thing.

00:19:07.020 It's like, you know these masks aren't stopping the virus.

00:19:09.660 Even N95 masks don't stop the virus.

00:19:12.240 And they say, reserve those for medical workers.

00:19:15.300 You need to wear a scarf or a t-shirt or a cloth mask, like non-FDA approved measures.

00:19:21.180 And do you ever see people wash their cloth mask?

00:19:24.220 No.

00:19:24.980 They just get dirty.

00:19:26.000 Women put them back in their purse, spread the germs in their purse, put it back on their 1.00

00:19:29.380 face.

00:19:29.820 So we're working with like flawed science.

00:19:33.220 We're working with enhanced numbers of COVID infection and death rates.

00:19:37.360 All of the science has been fraudulent, like many experts on your own show have pointed

00:19:43.140 out that, you know, we're getting played.

00:19:45.960 And I'm not supposed to go along with this.

00:19:48.560 It's obvious you're not.

00:19:50.220 It's obvious you're not.

00:19:51.500 And the one thing about America is if you take a position and you make a statement, you

00:19:55.860 can get an audience like you just noticed you have.

00:19:58.500 Millions of people heard your message.

00:20:00.260 But then when you also take a position, you create an opposition, which is also what's

00:20:04.040 happened to you.

00:20:04.700 So, you know, when you do that, you have to be able to capitalize on those who support

00:20:09.600 you, which means a lot of people will come to you and say, we're going to do business

00:20:12.480 with you because you're a libertarian.

00:20:14.140 I'm a libertarian.

00:20:15.100 So you got to find a local libertarian community that wants to have you be their mechanic.

00:20:18.640 But you also have to realize that you're going to lose some of the people that do not

00:20:21.960 agree with you, who do agree with wearing masks.

00:20:24.660 And that's a risk you take when you take a social position.

00:20:28.640 Nike's experienced that.

00:20:29.820 Pepsi's experienced that. 0.89

00:20:30.940 Starbucks experienced that.

00:20:32.000 Four years ago, Starbucks said they're not going to put Merry Christmas on their cups.

00:20:35.700 And this guy named Josh Feuerstein goes and does a video, says Starbucks said we're not

00:20:40.100 going to put Merry Christmas.

00:20:41.100 I went to Starbucks, bought a coffee, said my name is Merry Christmas.

00:20:44.940 And they put my name on there.

00:20:46.660 And guess what, Starbucks?

00:20:47.500 Now it's Merry Christmas.

00:20:48.360 That video was on Colbert.

00:20:49.540 He got like 20, 30 million views.

00:20:51.220 But he also had an opposition, which sounds like that's what happened to you.

00:20:54.020 Well, Costco, Kevin, I'll give you final thoughts here before we wrap up.

00:20:59.860 I appreciate you making the time to get on here.

00:21:01.420 But what are your final thoughts here that you want to tell us with what's happened with

00:21:05.440 your business and what are you going to do moving forward?

00:21:07.760 Okay.

00:21:08.120 Well, you know what?

00:21:08.760 I've had to try to delete my Google business listing.

00:21:12.000 It's still up.

00:21:13.200 You know, I'm having to retract some of my online presence and just hammer harder on foot,

00:21:18.680 you know, just work on calling my dead leads, you know, just go back and call previous customers,

00:21:26.160 call previous customers, lock in new details.

00:21:28.540 And just pretty much just fortify my base.

00:21:31.180 Just check in with my old customers, call up dead leads, cold call people, and just footwork

00:21:36.240 even harder, you know, because kind of like Google has the platform, YouTube has the platform,

00:21:42.660 you're building your independent platform, your business should also not be reliant on

00:21:46.840 these platforms that could turn against you at any moment.

00:21:49.860 So it just reminds me just to strengthen my business by strengthening my personal relationships

00:21:56.220 with people and not my digital.

00:21:58.180 Now, that being said, all of the mainstream news media is making me look like a fool.

00:22:03.220 They're making a mockery of me.

00:22:04.560 And then I really kind of understood that the mainstream media, their biggest sponsor is

00:22:12.060 Big Pharma, and they're going to make so much money off this demand that they're generating

00:22:16.800 based off the fear that they're selling to people.

00:22:19.840 So if, for instance, I have to look like an idiot to everybody because they need people

00:22:27.560 to be scared to line up for the $1,000 a day remdesivir and to line up for the vaccines.

00:22:32.780 And if they start breaking that conditioning, people aren't going to be scared and they're

00:22:37.240 not going to lie in Big Pharma's pockets with big bucks.

00:22:40.580 So that's why I'm just going to look universally dumb, whether it's Fox News or MSNBC, I'm kind

00:22:46.900 of the bad guy.

00:22:47.920 And I think we just need to really work on destroying this narrative, destroying this

00:22:52.500 fear and say, hey, I'm going to take off the mask.

00:22:55.680 I'm going to live in freedom and I'm not going to live in fear, which is a mindset you

00:23:00.040 can control me with.

00:23:01.280 I think some people agree with you.

00:23:02.800 I think some people disagree with you.

00:23:04.020 But the best thing about America is you can take a position as long as you stay there,

00:23:07.960 your audience will respect you.

00:23:09.180 And if there's areas that you made a mistake and you come back and say, I was kind of screwed

00:23:12.320 up in this area, but I still take a stand in this area, you'll gain even more credibility

00:23:16.080 with the audience to say, we understand that this guy's coming from a sincere place.

00:23:21.560 And by the way, I think it was 11 years ago, I got endorsed by a character I had no idea

00:23:27.060 about.

00:23:27.340 When I got endorsed, two of my offices shut down immediately.

00:23:29.860 This was a very big name nationwide when he got up and he endorsed me for the business

00:23:35.000 and whatever I was doing on one radio station, I got a black eye.

00:23:38.760 Immediately, my two offices shut down.

00:23:40.520 I had like three, four offices, two of them shut down.

00:23:42.420 And this is when I couldn't afford to shut down two offices.

00:23:45.280 We buckled down.

00:23:46.300 We got clear on our messages.

00:23:47.760 We started doing certain things right and everything changed.

00:23:50.780 You can do the same as well.

00:23:51.780 And I wish you nothing but the best as a small business owner.

00:23:54.000 And maybe you're going to hear from Costco and this guy who was the boss at Costco.

00:24:00.460 The next time you see him at a mall, you guys are going to see each other and hug it

00:24:03.200 out.

00:24:03.480 Or you guys are going to put a nice fight together and we'll have it on pay-per-view fight and

00:24:07.440 we'll see who's going to be able to knock out the other guy.

00:24:09.580 Either way, I think you reached out to me on Instagram.

00:24:12.220 Did you send me a message on Instagram?

00:24:13.600 Yeah, I did.

00:24:14.460 Oh, you reached out to me.

00:24:15.800 I sent you a message on Instagram.

00:24:17.560 That's right.

00:24:18.040 That's right.

00:24:18.480 Because the other one was we reached out to him, but you reached out to me and I'm glad you

00:24:21.180 were able to kind of share some of your thoughts where you're at.

00:24:23.680 I wish you nothing but the best, brother.

00:24:24.940 Thank you so much for coming out.

00:24:25.960 Thank you.

00:24:26.500 Take care, buddy.

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Valuetainment - June 26, 2020

Episode 481： Costco Kevin Cuts Membership Card & Responds to Mask Controversy

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