Valuetainment - July 03, 2020


Episode 484: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement


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Robert Kennedy Jr. talks about big pharma, Fauci, and the pro-vaccine movement in this exclusive interview with Patrick Bredeby on Valuetainment. Robert Kennedy Jr is a former Supreme Court Justice who served as the Chief Justice of the United States from 1987-1993 and served as President of the Supreme Court from 1993-1993. Robert has been an environmental lawyer for over 30 years and has been involved in the fight against mercury in the past and present. He has been a vocal opponent of Big Pharma and supports the use of vaccines.

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00:00:00.000 30 seconds.
00:00:01.880 Did you ever think you would make it?
00:00:04.220 I feel I'm so close I could take sweet victory.
00:00:07.640 I know this life meant for me.
00:00:10.760 Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got Bet David?
00:00:14.580 Valuetainment, giving value is contagious.
00:00:16.440 This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters.
00:00:19.160 How they run, homie? 1.00
00:00:20.140 Look what I become.
00:00:21.400 I'm the one.
00:00:22.460 I'm Patrick Bredeby, host of Atom.
00:00:23.880 And today I want to share with you an exclusive interview I did with Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:00:26.960 talking about big pharma, Fauci, and pro-vaccine movement.
00:00:30.000 Robert, thank you for being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:00:32.320 Thank you for having me, David.
00:00:34.520 So, Robert, just out of curiosity, why did you want to do a long-form interview
00:00:39.720 and kind of share some of your thoughts and views with the current times,
00:00:44.180 with what's taking place with coronavirus, with Fauci, with vaccines,
00:00:48.740 with all these things being done?
00:00:50.000 Why did you agree to do a long-form interview?
00:00:52.300 Well, I'd love to talk to your audience.
00:00:54.260 And, you know, listen, Patrick, I've been working on this issue for 15 years.
00:01:04.260 The problem with this issue is that if most people understood it,
00:01:09.200 if most people heard me talk about it or heard me debate about it,
00:01:12.460 I think most people would agree with my positions, which are common-sense provisions.
00:01:18.100 The vaccine should be tested like every other drug.
00:01:22.300 The problem is we don't get to convey those thoughts to anybody because of its censorship.
00:01:30.020 I haven't been allowed to publish an editorial since 2008.
00:01:34.980 Newspapers will attack me and then will not allow me to rebut in any way.
00:01:40.880 I can't even write letters to the editor.
00:01:43.420 I cannot appear on television, social media, Facebook, Google, Instagram,
00:01:50.260 all censor what we're saying.
00:01:51.960 Oh, I can – I have an Instagram account.
00:01:56.400 I have, you know, a lot of followers on Instagram,
00:01:58.980 and that's where I mainly communicate.
00:02:02.460 They are severely restricted in being able to share my Instagrams with other people.
00:02:08.520 That's constricted, and I'm not allowed to boost it.
00:02:11.100 So my growth is much slower than it would have been if I was actually allowed to boost.
00:02:18.640 We can't do that on any of the social media sites.
00:02:22.480 Social media sites like Google are intertwined and entangled financially with the pharmaceutical industry.
00:02:31.420 Google has a $750 million deal with Glaxo.
00:02:36.920 It's working with all the pharmaceutical companies to harvest data to get people's medical data
00:02:44.640 through Alexis, through Siri, through your cell phones when they're left on
00:02:51.260 and the microphone is still working, and through your buying habits and monitoring those things.
00:02:57.040 So they are in a partnership.
00:02:58.880 Google actually is part of a larger company called Alphabet,
00:03:02.420 and there are other subsidiaries of that company that actually manufacture vaccines.
00:03:07.840 So Google actively censors it.
00:03:11.520 When you do a Google search, it edits those search to make sure that you do not find the things
00:03:18.900 that are the most common search subjects.
00:03:22.100 It will direct you towards things.
00:03:25.160 It will direct you away from anything that harms the pharmaceutical industry.
00:03:28.920 It will direct you away from vitamins.
00:03:31.860 It will direct you away from chiropractors.
00:03:34.560 It will direct you away from functional health or integrative medicine
00:03:39.560 or any kind of alternative to the allopathic, you know, pharmaceutical paradigm.
00:03:47.880 What are you saying that's so offensive where many of these social media platforms
00:03:53.820 or even mainstream media wants to censor you from?
00:03:56.680 I, you know, here's the story, Patrick.
00:04:00.440 I got dragged into the vaccine issue really kicking and screaming, very reluctantly.
00:04:07.540 I'm an environmental lawyer.
00:04:08.940 I ran the biggest water, and still do, the biggest water protection group
00:04:12.600 in the World Water Keeper Alliance.
00:04:14.900 I'll tell you how I got into this.
00:04:16.540 In the early 2000s, we have 350 water keepers in 46 countries around the world.
00:04:27.480 Each one has a patrol boat.
00:04:29.860 They patrol their local river, and they sue polluters who are degrading it or contaminating it.
00:04:35.620 In around 2002 to 2005, I was actively litigating against about 40 coal-burning power plants
00:04:45.740 and cement kilns for discharging mercury.
00:04:48.920 The mercury was coming out of their smokestacks, landing on the landscapes,
00:04:53.580 it was contaminating fish.
00:04:55.080 And at that time, FDA did a study in 2003 that said that every freshwater fish in America
00:05:01.900 now had dangerous levels of mercury in its flesh.
00:05:04.680 So we were specifically, a lot of people were suing coal-burning power plants.
00:05:09.420 We were specifically suing them on mercury.
00:05:13.160 And I was going around the country pushing legislation, talking about my lawsuits, raising money.
00:05:19.840 At almost every public appearance that I made, there would be groups of women who would show up, 1.00
00:05:26.320 and they would come up to me afterward.
00:05:28.760 And it turns out that all of those women were women who had children with intellectual disabilities.
00:05:36.380 And they believed that their children had been harmed by the vaccines.
00:05:41.240 And specifically, from the mercury that was then in, you know, many of the vaccines, still is in some of them today.
00:05:50.440 And they would say to me, if you're in kind of a mildly scolding but respectful way,
00:05:56.400 if you're genuinely interested in mercury contamination to children, you need to look at the vaccines.
00:06:01.840 It's not something that I wanted to do.
00:06:04.520 I was very content doing, you know, protecting rivers.
00:06:08.660 I had been raised in the spirit of the movement for rights for people with intellectual disabilities.
00:06:16.240 I worked in Camp Schreiber from when I was a little kid as a counselor, as a hugger.
00:06:23.020 It later became Special Olympics, the year my father was killed in 1968.
00:06:27.820 We turned that into Special Olympics.
00:06:30.760 And my family, I worked for hundreds of hours when I was in high school at Wausauka Home for the Retarded 1.00
00:06:36.380 because it was a central preoccupation of my family, children, particularly with intellectual disabilities.
00:06:42.720 It's not, I had a lot of exposure to it, but it's not where I wanted to spend my life, a lot of empathy.
00:06:49.360 I really was committed to spending my life trying to clean up rivers and clean energy and those issues.
00:06:56.280 One of these women came to my home in the summer of 2004 with a big pile of scientific studies,
00:07:06.640 about 18 inches thick, and she put it on my front porch.
00:07:09.860 She was a psychologist from Minnesota named Sarah Bridges.
00:07:12.880 She had a child who had gotten autism from vaccines, had actually gotten a $20 million award from the vaccine court,
00:07:21.080 which recognized that his autism had come from the vaccines.
00:07:25.000 She brought that.
00:07:26.100 She didn't want it to happen to any other kids.
00:07:28.840 She brought me this big pile of scientific studies, and she said,
00:07:31.900 I'm not leaving here until you read this.
00:07:35.560 Now, I'm very accustomed to reading science.
00:07:39.500 I've brought over 500 successful lawsuits in my career.
00:07:44.040 Almost all of them involve some kind of scientific controversy.
00:07:47.520 So I actually started, I'm not going to say I read all the studies cover to cover,
00:07:53.060 but I read the abstract for all of them, which is the summary at the beginning of the study.
00:07:57.700 And before I was six inches into that pile, I was already dumbstruck by the huge delta
00:08:04.960 between what the actual published peer-reviewed science was saying
00:08:09.800 and what the public health regulators were telling the public and doctors and everybody else
00:08:15.300 about the safety of vaccines.
00:08:17.700 And I realized that there was a real problem,
00:08:21.600 and that these vaccines in our country, unlike other medicines, are never safety tested.
00:08:28.980 People find that astonishing.
00:08:30.760 The reason for that is an artifact of CDC's legacy as the public health service.
00:08:38.980 That was the predecessor agency to CDC.
00:08:42.440 The public health service was a quasi-military agency,
00:08:46.460 which is why people at CDC still have military ranks, like surgeon general, etc.
00:08:52.800 And the vaccine program was initially launched as a national security defense
00:08:57.960 against a biological attack on our country.
00:09:00.300 So the regulators and the Pentagon wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us
00:09:06.460 with anthrax or some other biological agent, they could quickly fabricate and deploy
00:09:11.320 a vaccine to 200 million people without regulatory impediments.
00:09:17.580 And so they said, if we call it a medicine, we're going to have to safety test it,
00:09:21.600 and that usually takes two to five years.
00:09:24.020 Let's call it a biologic, and then we will exempt biologics from having to do safety testing.
00:09:34.300 So the industry, the four companies that make all 72 vaccines that are currently mandated
00:09:43.800 for our children, I've got another gift that has contributed to the lack of safety assessments
00:09:54.640 and lack of safety concerns with vaccines.
00:09:57.180 And that is, in 1986, there was a vaccine.
00:10:02.280 I got three vaccines when I was a kid.
00:10:04.440 But by 86, there was about 11 of them.
00:10:07.680 And one of them was called the diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis, or the DTP vaccine.
00:10:12.120 And it was killing lots and lots of children, and it was causing brain damage in a tremendous
00:10:17.340 number of children.
00:10:19.260 And the industry was getting sued.
00:10:22.160 Oh, Wyatt, which is now called Pfizer, went to Congress and said, we are getting out of
00:10:28.400 the vaccine industry because we're paying $20 in damages for every $1 we make from this
00:10:34.900 vaccine.
00:10:35.380 And you cannot make a vaccine safely.
00:10:40.740 You cannot, it is impossible to make a vaccine that's completely safe.
00:10:44.740 You are going to injure a certain amount of people, and the injuries are going to be grievous
00:10:49.980 enough that nobody will ever make any money on vaccines because they're going to have to
00:10:55.480 pay more on injuries, and we can't make them better.
00:10:58.740 And we're going to get out of the industry altogether and stop making vaccines unless you give us
00:11:05.040 complete blanket immunity from liability.
00:11:09.120 So Congress, the Democratic Congress, Republican President Reagan, all of them taking lots of
00:11:15.860 money from these pharmaceutical companies, the number one contributor, passed along in 1986
00:11:22.260 called the Vaccine Act, or VICA, which gave blanket immunity.
00:11:26.620 So no matter how grievous your injury or your child's injury, no matter how toxic the ingredient,
00:11:32.520 no matter how sloppy the line protocols, no matter how negligent that company, you cannot
00:11:38.080 sue them or redress.
00:11:40.900 So there's no discovery.
00:11:42.280 There's no depositions.
00:11:43.560 There's no medical malpractice.
00:11:45.080 There's no class actions.
00:11:47.280 There's zero consequence if they kill you or if they injure you from life.
00:11:51.340 And the vaccine companies, or the pharmaceutical companies, took a look then at the landscape
00:11:59.680 and they said, holy cow, now we have a product that there is no liability.
00:12:06.600 And for every medical product, the biggest cost is paying liability at the back end.
00:12:12.020 So they said, no, you know, that's scrubbed.
00:12:13.980 We don't have to worry about that.
00:12:15.360 Number two, we don't have to safety test them.
00:12:19.440 So there's no reason.
00:12:21.440 There's no, that's a huge cost also for every other medication that they're now avoided.
00:12:27.740 Third, there is no marketing cause and zero advertising costs because the government is
00:12:34.580 going to mandate this product to 78 million people.
00:12:37.280 So there's no market forces or legal forces to tell us to make this vaccine safe.
00:12:45.640 And there's no reason to make it safe because nobody can sue you.
00:12:49.440 Nobody can do discovery.
00:12:51.440 There's no consequence of giving you a really dangerous vaccine.
00:12:56.420 Oh, there was a goal.
00:12:57.600 And by the way, with all those costs waived and mandatory consumption of that product,
00:13:06.060 it's a goldmine.
00:13:08.640 Oh, if you can get a vaccine on the CDC schedule, it's worth a billion dollars a year typically
00:13:16.460 to your company.
00:13:18.440 So there was a gold rush and all of these companies rushed on CDC and captured the agency
00:13:23.980 and got them to mandate all these vaccines.
00:13:27.680 And we went from the three vaccines that I had when I was a kid to 72 doses of vaccines
00:13:34.000 that my children's generation is getting.
00:13:37.980 And what happened?
00:13:38.920 And that process began in 1989.
00:13:42.660 And if you look at what happened in 89, we suddenly had an epidemic of chronic disease.
00:13:50.340 So the allergic disease, peanut allergies, suddenly became epidemic.
00:13:58.280 Peanut allergies in my generation or in the generation in 1986 were about 1 in 1,200.
00:14:05.440 Today it's 1 in 12 kids.
00:14:08.580 The asthma exploded.
00:14:11.000 Another allergic disease, anaphylaxis, eczema, which I never heard of when I was a kid,
00:14:15.540 now is everywhere.
00:14:16.740 It's ubiquitous.
00:14:17.320 We know that all those injuries are caused by vaccines.
00:14:21.020 Those are the allergic illnesses, the neurodevelopmental disorders, ADD, ADHD, speech delay, tics,
00:14:28.920 narcolepsy, language delay, SIDS, and ASD and autism suddenly exploded.
00:14:38.040 Autism rates went from 1 in 10,000 in my generation to 1 in every 34 kids today, 1 in every 22 boys.
00:14:45.800 This is a crisis.
00:14:47.360 This is a crisis.
00:14:47.420 It's much worse than the coronavirus crisis.
00:14:50.700 1 in 22 boys debilitated for life will never write poetry, never vote.
00:14:58.980 Half of them will never use a toilet.
00:15:02.360 None of them, half of them will never utter a word.
00:15:06.820 They'll never go on a date.
00:15:08.780 They'll never pay tax.
00:15:10.500 They'll never serve in the army.
00:15:12.900 There's 1 in every 22 boys.
00:15:15.660 This is a huge, huge crisis that dwarfs coronavirus.
00:15:21.020 And the CDC, if there are 700 measles cases in this country,
00:15:26.600 they will put 1,200 forensic pathologists and virologists in moon suits,
00:15:31.380 and they'll go out and turn over every rock and find out where that came from,
00:15:37.040 what is causing it.
00:15:39.220 And if you ask CDC, which is the Center for Disease Control,
00:15:42.360 their job is to tell us where these diseases are coming from,
00:15:46.220 where's the peanut allergies coming from?
00:15:48.780 I don't know.
00:15:50.180 Where's the autism coming from?
00:15:52.200 Where's the ADD?
00:15:53.240 Where are all these autoimmune diseases?
00:15:54.920 Why are we exploding with juvenile diabetes,
00:15:58.980 with rheumatoid arthritis, with fibromyalgia?
00:16:02.560 The reason is because they know where it's coming from.
00:16:05.420 It's coming from the vaccines.
00:16:07.040 And it's not me saying this.
00:16:10.000 If you look, there's 420 diseases that are now epidemic since 1989.
00:16:16.700 And by the way, Congress told the EPA,
00:16:19.380 tell us what year the autism epidemic began.
00:16:23.180 And the EPA scientists came back and said,
00:16:26.980 we can draw a red line.
00:16:28.860 It happened in 89.
00:16:30.720 That's when everything changed.
00:16:32.300 Well, that's the year the vaccine schedule changed.
00:16:34.360 But those diseases that are now epidemic,
00:16:38.280 those 420 diseases,
00:16:40.560 they appear on two lists.
00:16:42.760 One is a list of diseases that have become epidemic since 1989.
00:16:47.060 And two, they are on the manufacturer's inserts listed as side effects from vaccination.
00:16:56.000 And the reason for that, Patrick,
00:16:57.480 is because if the one way that you can sue a vaccine company under VICA
00:17:04.860 is if they know of an injury that's caused by vaccines,
00:17:10.020 a side effect,
00:17:11.060 and they fail to list it on their manufacturer's inserts.
00:17:14.060 So that's the one place they're on it.
00:17:16.760 And if you look at the DTaP vaccine,
00:17:20.440 autism is listed as an insert on their insert.
00:17:23.640 So they'll deny it everywhere else.
00:17:26.780 They admit it on their inserts.
00:17:28.380 And that's where you can go to get the truth.
00:17:31.180 Let me say one other thing.
00:17:33.840 You know, my party, the Democratic Party,
00:17:37.340 is the worst on this issue.
00:17:40.560 And it's very odd to me that they're mandating these vaccines that are untested.
00:17:45.880 How can you mandate any medication for a human being?
00:17:48.620 How can you tell somebody we are going to force you to take a medication
00:17:53.340 that you don't want to take?
00:17:55.620 And, you know, we signed a treaty, the Nuremberg Charter,
00:17:58.940 after World War II because the Nazis were doing that. 0.92
00:18:01.580 They were testing vaccines on people and all these other medical treatments.
00:18:05.600 And we said that is a war crime. 0.77
00:18:09.260 We don't do that to people.
00:18:10.740 And we signed the Syracuse Protocols,
00:18:13.860 the UN Charter of Human Rights,
00:18:15.560 the Holinsky Accords, the Nuremberg Charter,
00:18:18.700 all of those saying to them,
00:18:19.900 you cannot give a medication to somebody against their will,
00:18:22.940 even if the life of the nation is at stake.
00:18:26.100 That's a quote.
00:18:27.980 And yet we're mandating these drugs
00:18:31.460 that not only are we forcing people to take them,
00:18:35.500 and we know they cause injury,
00:18:37.800 and the vaccine court has paid out $4 billion.
00:18:40.400 And they're severely limited, those judgments.
00:18:46.200 And even HHS admits at the vaccine court
00:18:49.980 that fewer than 1% of injuries ever gets reported or awarded.
00:18:55.920 So, you know, make that $400 billion.
00:18:59.120 We know they cause a lot of injuries.
00:19:01.040 Even if they cause one injury,
00:19:02.540 how can you force a human being to take it against their will?
00:19:05.500 Well, it makes no sense.
00:19:08.080 Oh, but the other thing is,
00:19:10.560 the Democrats will say,
00:19:13.320 if you ask them,
00:19:15.040 what is the most corrupt industry
00:19:17.720 that's corrupted our political system?
00:19:19.660 They'll all say the same thing.
00:19:21.180 You know, the oil industry is huge,
00:19:23.260 and that's a side injury,
00:19:25.100 but they'll say nobody has the influence
00:19:27.180 that the pharmaceutical industry has.
00:19:28.880 There are more pharmaceutical lobbyists on Capitol Hill
00:19:32.460 than there are congressmen, senators,
00:19:34.020 and Supreme Court justices combined,
00:19:36.040 and they put twice the money
00:19:37.680 of the next biggest lobbyist,
00:19:39.800 which is oil and gas.
00:19:41.700 They're notoriously corrupt.
00:19:43.160 The four companies
00:19:44.340 that make all 72 of the vaccines
00:19:48.180 that are now mandated for our children,
00:19:49.980 every one of them is a convicted felon.
00:19:52.680 In the last 10 years,
00:19:54.200 those four companies,
00:19:55.300 Sanofi, Merck, Pfizer, and Glaxo,
00:19:58.240 have paid $35 billion
00:20:00.200 in penalties and damages
00:20:02.540 and, you know,
00:20:03.820 the civil penalties
00:20:04.620 for falsifying science
00:20:06.300 or defrauding regulators
00:20:08.720 for lying to doctors
00:20:11.200 and manipulating
00:20:12.740 and bribing
00:20:13.640 and blackmailing,
00:20:14.420 et cetera,
00:20:14.880 and for killing 0.73
00:20:15.800 hundreds of thousands of people.
00:20:18.580 Vioxx alone,
00:20:19.480 which is Merck's product,
00:20:20.340 Merck is the biggest vaccine maker
00:20:21.900 in our country.
00:20:22.840 It had another flagship product.
00:20:24.840 Now it's the Gartasil vaccine,
00:20:26.200 but back then it was Vioxx.
00:20:29.320 Vioxx killed
00:20:30.800 between 120,000
00:20:32.780 and 500,000 Americans
00:20:34.340 in between 2002
00:20:36.580 and 2007,
00:20:37.980 2006.
00:20:40.080 And it was a pill
00:20:43.640 and Merck marketed it
00:20:45.660 as a headache pill
00:20:46.580 that Merck knew
00:20:47.820 caused heart attacks.
00:20:50.060 How did it know it?
00:20:50.940 It knew it from its clinical data
00:20:52.340 because it killed a lot of people
00:20:53.760 during the clinical trials
00:20:54.960 and Merck's,
00:20:56.760 when we sued Merck,
00:20:58.680 there,
00:20:59.220 we got documents
00:21:00.900 that were these flow charts
00:21:02.520 from their,
00:21:03.280 from their bean counters
00:21:06.180 that said,
00:21:07.160 we are going to kill
00:21:07.860 a certain amount,
00:21:08.660 number of people,
00:21:10.520 but we will still make more money
00:21:12.280 even if we have to pay damages
00:21:13.800 to all the people we kill.
00:21:15.360 So we should go ahead
00:21:16.220 and do this.
00:21:16.880 So, you know,
00:21:17.420 which is,
00:21:18.080 is justifiably more,
00:21:20.500 morally justifiably
00:21:21.760 if you tell the people
00:21:23.100 when you take this pill
00:21:25.440 or your headache
00:21:26.520 or your arthritis,
00:21:27.860 it may kill you
00:21:28.740 and you're okay
00:21:30.120 because you warned them.
00:21:32.060 Merck didn't warn them.
00:21:33.240 It hid that fact.
00:21:34.640 And most of the people
00:21:35.740 who die,
00:21:37.460 probably,
00:21:38.260 if they knew this
00:21:39.400 could have killed them
00:21:40.020 from a heart attack,
00:21:41.280 they probably would have
00:21:42.040 taken an aspirin.
00:21:43.620 Merck didn't give them
00:21:44.720 that choice.
00:21:45.680 It lied to them.
00:21:47.400 How are we,
00:21:48.340 doesn't it require
00:21:50.280 a kind of cognitive dissonance
00:21:52.120 to believe
00:21:54.760 that the company
00:21:55.540 that would kill 0.80
00:21:56.700 half a million people
00:21:58.000 to make a buck on Vioxx
00:22:00.680 suddenly has found Jesus
00:22:03.300 when it comes to vaccines,
00:22:04.820 which, by the way,
00:22:06.360 is the only place
00:22:07.220 they can never get caught
00:22:08.220 because, you know,
00:22:10.020 all of those other drugs
00:22:11.340 that they got caught for,
00:22:13.280 the way they got caught
00:22:14.740 was that private attorneys,
00:22:18.160 plaintiff's attorneys,
00:22:19.440 representing injured clients,
00:22:22.380 sued the company,
00:22:23.340 Merck or Sanofi
00:22:24.120 or Wyatt or whatever,
00:22:25.120 Pfizer or whatever,
00:22:26.480 and in the course of discovery,
00:22:29.720 came across documents
00:22:30.920 that showed criminal behavior.
00:22:34.720 They took those documents,
00:22:36.080 they brought them down
00:22:36.820 to the U.S. attorney's office
00:22:38.180 and they said to the U.S. attorney,
00:22:40.140 you need to prosecute
00:22:41.220 this company for criminal acts.
00:22:43.360 That's how they got busted.
00:22:45.520 Well, that will never happen
00:22:46.700 with vaccines
00:22:47.500 because there are no losses.
00:22:49.580 There is no liability.
00:22:50.980 They can do anything
00:22:51.860 they want to you
00:22:52.980 and there are no consequences.
00:22:56.140 And by the way,
00:22:56.980 it's not only that
00:22:57.820 there are no consequences,
00:23:00.200 there are good consequences
00:23:01.980 for them from injuring you
00:23:04.120 because this explosion
00:23:07.760 in chronic disease epidemics
00:23:10.120 has made those companies,
00:23:11.920 the richest companies
00:23:12.920 in the world.
00:23:15.160 Oh, the same companies
00:23:18.420 that are selling you
00:23:19.420 that measles drug
00:23:20.900 are now selling
00:23:21.940 and the hepatitis B
00:23:24.220 and the DTaP
00:23:25.040 and the HIP vaccines
00:23:26.080 and that vaccine
00:23:27.980 is giving you seizures
00:23:29.400 or epilepsy
00:23:30.420 or autism
00:23:31.740 or food allergies
00:23:33.560 or asthma.
00:23:35.680 That same company
00:23:37.060 is now selling your child
00:23:39.440 who is sick for life
00:23:40.900 the albuterol inhalers,
00:23:44.020 the COVID inhalers,
00:23:46.020 the Adderall,
00:23:48.220 the Ritalin,
00:23:49.240 the Concerta,
00:23:51.460 the anti-seizure medication,
00:23:54.340 the diabetes drugs,
00:23:55.740 the rheumatoid arthritis drugs.
00:23:57.680 These companies are making
00:23:59.840 $50 billion a year
00:24:01.620 selling vaccines,
00:24:02.700 mandatory vaccines,
00:24:04.260 and then they're making
00:24:05.660 $500 billion a year
00:24:07.800 selling the treatments
00:24:09.820 for the chronic diseases
00:24:11.040 that are being caused
00:24:12.080 by those vaccines.
00:24:13.240 There is not only
00:24:14.600 no incentive for them
00:24:15.680 to make it safe,
00:24:16.580 there's actually an incentive
00:24:18.200 for them to make those
00:24:19.560 vaccines as dangerous
00:24:21.380 as possible.
00:24:22.220 They have monopoly control,
00:24:23.460 there's no competition.
00:24:25.360 Everybody's told,
00:24:26.400 you take this
00:24:27.060 Merck's hepatitis B shot.
00:24:30.100 You take Merck's MMR,
00:24:31.600 there is no other MMR to take.
00:24:33.540 Let me ask you this,
00:24:34.460 you said your party,
00:24:35.700 just for full disclosure,
00:24:36.920 you're still a Democrat,
00:24:38.020 you haven't left the party.
00:24:39.300 No, I'm still a Democrat,
00:24:40.700 but I'm really angry about this.
00:24:42.800 Why?
00:24:43.580 The one party that has this wrong
00:24:45.580 is the Democratic Party.
00:24:47.220 Well, I'm not going to say
00:24:48.600 blame it completely
00:24:49.420 on the Democrats
00:24:50.080 because,
00:24:51.460 in fact,
00:24:52.060 the parties have gone
00:24:52.960 back and forth on this.
00:24:54.140 issue,
00:24:54.700 and when they,
00:24:56.380 we have,
00:24:56.860 you know,
00:24:57.160 Reagan signed the law
00:24:58.440 into effect,
00:25:00.560 and I'm not blaming Reagan,
00:25:02.660 you know,
00:25:03.080 because I think Reagan
00:25:05.180 was probably trying
00:25:05.980 to do something good,
00:25:07.220 and the Democrats
00:25:08.040 who voted for it
00:25:09.000 all believe
00:25:11.360 that this law
00:25:12.840 would somehow
00:25:13.920 make it easier
00:25:15.940 for people to recover
00:25:17.140 injuries,
00:25:18.900 from injuries quickly,
00:25:20.060 and that they would keep people,
00:25:21.600 you know,
00:25:21.820 from getting sick.
00:25:22.580 They didn't know
00:25:23.160 what I know today
00:25:24.440 about vaccines.
00:25:25.580 So,
00:25:26.500 but when we had
00:25:27.460 the Supreme Court case,
00:25:29.160 which,
00:25:29.820 you know,
00:25:30.180 extended the liability,
00:25:32.020 complete blanket immunity
00:25:33.340 for all product defect claims
00:25:35.760 to these companies,
00:25:37.900 it was the Republicans
00:25:39.400 on the Supreme Court
00:25:41.240 that voted to do that,
00:25:43.620 and it was the Democrats,
00:25:45.460 you know,
00:25:45.660 particularly Sotomayor
00:25:47.180 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 1.00
00:25:48.780 who wrote these,
00:25:50.240 you know,
00:25:50.740 infuriated dissents,
00:25:52.540 saying,
00:25:52.900 this is,
00:25:53.700 you are unleashing
00:25:54.800 the devil here,
00:25:56.320 and that's exactly
00:25:57.300 what happened.
00:25:57.960 And then,
00:25:59.240 what's happened
00:26:01.360 on Capitol Hill
00:26:03.880 and in Congress,
00:26:05.360 the Republicans
00:26:05.920 are as bad
00:26:06.620 as the Democrats.
00:26:07.560 Everybody's scared
00:26:08.300 of this issue.
00:26:09.800 On the state legislatures,
00:26:12.340 the Republicans
00:26:12.960 have been fantastic,
00:26:14.600 and they are the ones
00:26:15.720 that have stopped
00:26:16.640 the pharmaceutical companies,
00:26:18.320 but once they get up
00:26:19.360 into the higher office,
00:26:21.600 where pharma
00:26:22.200 has more control,
00:26:23.640 you know,
00:26:23.840 we can't get hearings
00:26:24.920 from them,
00:26:25.860 we can't get anything
00:26:26.720 out of either party.
00:26:28.480 The reason why I ask
00:26:29.500 this is the following reason.
00:26:30.480 So for me,
00:26:31.800 in my family,
00:26:32.800 I'm married,
00:26:33.400 I have three kids,
00:26:34.160 I was in the military,
00:26:35.060 so you know,
00:26:35.460 when you're in the military,
00:26:36.180 you take a bunch of shots.
00:26:37.300 I took 11 shots
00:26:38.300 when I joined the Army,
00:26:39.260 and they said,
00:26:39.680 you're government property.
00:26:40.680 Something may happen,
00:26:41.520 but we're testing.
00:26:43.520 I have offices nationwide,
00:26:44.900 and I talk to a lot
00:26:45.860 of my executives,
00:26:46.660 and a lot of them
00:26:47.200 are from California.
00:26:48.080 In California,
00:26:48.540 they're not comfortable
00:26:49.360 about vaccines,
00:26:49.960 so they'll say,
00:26:51.000 I'm anti-vaccine,
00:26:52.120 I'm pro-vaccine,
00:26:53.100 but there's a lot of people
00:26:54.220 that are in the middle.
00:26:56.040 And the people
00:26:56.820 I'd want to focus on
00:26:57.820 is the folks
00:26:58.400 that are willing
00:27:00.000 to be educated
00:27:03.360 to consider
00:27:04.120 different positions.
00:27:05.360 I'm speaking to my wife,
00:27:06.720 and my wife last night,
00:27:07.640 we stayed up last night late,
00:27:09.240 watching all these
00:27:10.300 different documentaries,
00:27:11.380 these articles,
00:27:12.320 and you know,
00:27:12.660 once you get into
00:27:13.220 this conversation
00:27:13.980 of anti-vaccine
00:27:14.700 and pro-vaccine,
00:27:15.280 there's a lot you can read.
00:27:16.340 There's enough content
00:27:17.660 to go through.
00:27:18.620 And she says,
00:27:19.140 well, babe,
00:27:19.520 this is starting to make sense,
00:27:20.600 and that's starting to make sense,
00:27:21.460 and what about this?
00:27:22.140 And it kept going and going.
00:27:23.820 You know,
00:27:24.480 to those who are in the middle,
00:27:26.220 when you talk about Democrats,
00:27:27.500 and I said,
00:27:28.120 you know,
00:27:28.440 why are Democrats not again?
00:27:29.760 I think a lot of people
00:27:30.980 do have an issue
00:27:32.180 with Big Pharma.
00:27:32.920 This is some stats
00:27:33.620 that I pulled up,
00:27:35.040 is Big Pharma
00:27:36.840 that's advertised
00:27:37.720 six billion dollars
00:27:39.140 of TV last year.
00:27:40.640 When it comes down
00:27:41.460 to lobby
00:27:41.920 and you were given
00:27:42.540 the data,
00:27:43.020 they're number one.
00:27:44.080 Number one was Big Pharma
00:27:45.120 by a mile
00:27:45.860 at 280 million.
00:27:48.560 Insurance was second,
00:27:50.200 then electronic manufacturing,
00:27:51.580 then business associations,
00:27:52.920 then oil and gas,
00:27:53.760 then electronic,
00:27:54.380 then real estate.
00:27:55.820 And then I went
00:27:56.560 a little bit deeper.
00:27:57.200 I said,
00:27:57.340 let me see what's happening
00:27:57.960 with cost.
00:27:59.080 And you see that
00:28:00.060 based on a study done
00:28:01.560 by an independent research group
00:28:03.600 funded by the fourth
00:28:04.460 health insurance companies,
00:28:05.580 four health insurance companies,
00:28:07.120 type 1 diabetes spent
00:28:08.380 on average
00:28:08.900 $5,700 per person
00:28:10.320 on insulin in 2016
00:28:11.640 versus 2841 in 2012.
00:28:14.640 That's nearly a 100% growth
00:28:16.960 in only four years.
00:28:17.960 And 3,400 drugs boosted
00:28:20.800 their pricing for the first
00:28:22.740 six months of 2019,
00:28:24.080 17% increase in the number
00:28:26.040 of drug hikes from a year earlier.
00:28:28.820 And the average price hike
00:28:30.420 is 10.5%.
00:28:31.460 That's five times inflation.
00:28:33.700 So when I watch debates,
00:28:35.500 you don't see the left
00:28:37.560 and the right being too off
00:28:38.880 when it comes down
00:28:39.560 to Big Pharma abusing them.
00:28:41.180 So who is holding them accountable
00:28:43.700 to be able to constantly bully?
00:28:45.080 You point out
00:28:46.560 the first thing you said
00:28:48.500 is really kind of
00:28:50.200 the root of the problem,
00:28:51.620 which is in,
00:28:52.680 I think it was 1996,
00:28:55.880 FDA adopted a new rule.
00:28:58.920 It was illegal in this country
00:29:00.700 for pharmaceutical companies
00:29:02.380 to advertise drugs
00:29:03.940 direct to consumer.
00:29:04.900 In other words,
00:29:05.360 to advertise on TV.
00:29:08.560 And then FDA changed that rule.
00:29:12.100 So there's only two countries
00:29:13.360 in the world
00:29:13.820 that allow pharmaceutical companies
00:29:16.540 to advertise on TV.
00:29:17.900 And New Zealand is one
00:29:18.940 and we're the others.
00:29:19.900 And we have,
00:29:20.940 as a result of that,
00:29:22.000 we have the highest drug prices
00:29:23.300 and we have the most drugs.
00:29:24.940 I think nine out of every $10
00:29:26.560 in the world
00:29:29.260 spent on pharmaceutical drugs
00:29:31.200 is spent in this country.
00:29:32.780 So we're, you know,
00:29:33.680 we, it's not a good thing
00:29:35.680 for public health.
00:29:36.480 And by the way,
00:29:37.820 the third leading cause
00:29:40.180 of death in this country
00:29:41.440 is pharmaceutical drugs.
00:29:44.400 So they're not making us healthier.
00:29:46.380 We have the most aggressive
00:29:48.900 vaccine schedule
00:29:50.560 in the world
00:29:51.200 in this country
00:29:52.040 and we have the worst health
00:29:53.700 in our children and adults.
00:29:56.420 Oh, we have the worst
00:29:57.820 infant mortality.
00:29:59.160 We have,
00:29:59.460 if you look at any
00:30:00.340 of the metrics,
00:30:01.260 the US,
00:30:02.020 I think it's 72
00:30:03.100 in infant mortality
00:30:04.840 in the world.
00:30:05.460 We're around Syria
00:30:06.360 and Costa Rica.
00:30:08.580 And when I was a kid,
00:30:09.940 we were number one
00:30:10.840 on all of those.
00:30:11.820 We were the best,
00:30:13.080 we were the healthiest people
00:30:13.940 in the world,
00:30:14.400 the best healthcare system.
00:30:16.440 Today we get,
00:30:17.700 you know,
00:30:17.960 we're paying the most money
00:30:19.060 for the worst outcomes
00:30:20.100 and a lot of that
00:30:20.880 is because
00:30:21.800 pharmaceutical advertisements
00:30:24.480 not only do they
00:30:26.140 advertise on TV,
00:30:27.320 but they control content.
00:30:29.880 Oh, you know,
00:30:32.000 Anderson Cooper
00:30:32.780 is sponsored by Pfizer.
00:30:34.060 Aaron Burnett
00:30:36.460 is sponsored by Pfizer.
00:30:38.980 The NBC Nightly News
00:30:40.860 is sponsored by Merck.
00:30:43.760 And Roger Ailes told me,
00:30:47.040 you know,
00:30:47.320 Roger Ailes,
00:30:48.460 who I knew very well,
00:30:50.440 and it was the founder
00:30:51.800 of Fox News.
00:30:53.520 I didn't agree
00:30:54.400 with him politically,
00:30:55.580 but we were friends.
00:30:57.040 We spent a couple months
00:30:58.240 together in a tent.
00:30:59.380 I was 18 years old
00:31:00.860 in Africa.
00:31:01.480 I had this,
00:31:02.800 you know,
00:31:03.080 good relationship with him.
00:31:05.660 And he understood
00:31:07.380 the issue of vaccine injury
00:31:09.240 from,
00:31:09.820 he had a personal experience
00:31:11.340 with vaccine injury
00:31:12.320 where a kid
00:31:14.180 who was close to him
00:31:15.360 was injured.
00:31:16.600 And so he knew
00:31:17.740 it was true.
00:31:18.840 And we,
00:31:19.400 I had made,
00:31:20.060 I helped make a film,
00:31:22.320 a documentary about it
00:31:23.820 a couple of years
00:31:24.920 before he died,
00:31:25.860 when he was still
00:31:26.320 at the height of his powers.
00:31:28.540 And I asked him,
00:31:30.040 you know,
00:31:30.320 can I come on,
00:31:31.600 I didn't want to play it
00:31:32.540 on Fox,
00:31:33.200 but I wanted to come on Fox
00:31:34.360 and talk about it.
00:31:36.180 And he said,
00:31:36.560 I can't let you do that.
00:31:37.740 And he said,
00:31:38.220 in fact,
00:31:38.680 if any of my hosts
00:31:40.020 allowed you on their show,
00:31:42.200 I'd have to fire them.
00:31:43.180 And if I didn't,
00:31:44.780 I would get a call
00:31:46.060 from Rupert
00:31:46.700 within 10 minutes.
00:31:48.600 Rupert Murdoch,
00:31:49.620 who owns Fox,
00:31:50.800 also owns
00:31:51.740 one of the biggest
00:31:52.340 vaccine companies
00:31:53.360 in the world
00:31:53.840 and has been
00:31:55.040 one of the big
00:31:55.700 promoters of it.
00:31:57.060 But what Roger told me
00:31:58.900 then,
00:31:59.240 he said,
00:31:59.820 he said,
00:32:00.500 during non-election years,
00:32:03.300 during certain parts
00:32:04.540 of the year,
00:32:05.580 70% of our advertising
00:32:07.980 revenue for evening news
00:32:09.440 shows
00:32:09.920 is coming from pharma.
00:32:12.200 And he said,
00:32:14.480 typically there's
00:32:15.180 about 22 ads
00:32:16.440 on an evening news
00:32:17.620 and 17 of those
00:32:18.820 are pharmaceutical ads.
00:32:20.640 That's why you see
00:32:21.860 these aggressive
00:32:23.020 promotions of vaccines
00:32:24.420 all the time.
00:32:25.280 You're constantly
00:32:26.160 being told,
00:32:28.100 it's flu season,
00:32:29.120 get your vaccine
00:32:29.920 because they're
00:32:30.360 selling the products
00:32:31.480 not just during
00:32:32.460 the advertising
00:32:33.000 section of the show,
00:32:34.240 but they're selling
00:32:34.880 the products
00:32:35.360 during the entire show.
00:32:37.580 And get your measles
00:32:38.800 and then,
00:32:39.420 you know,
00:32:39.660 this inflating,
00:32:40.880 the terror of flu,
00:32:42.820 the terror of measles,
00:32:44.240 the terror of,
00:32:45.140 you know,
00:32:45.480 coronavirus,
00:32:46.460 which are constant themes
00:32:47.900 which bring them
00:32:48.980 in viewers,
00:32:50.500 but also sell,
00:32:51.940 you know,
00:32:52.140 medical products
00:32:53.060 which is what
00:32:53.680 their advertiser
00:32:54.500 is trying to sell.
00:32:55.360 And those companies,
00:32:57.500 you know,
00:32:57.800 CNN and those other
00:33:00.380 companies
00:33:00.820 have been utterly
00:33:01.520 compromised.
00:33:02.420 They're not asking
00:33:03.400 the questions
00:33:04.040 of government officials
00:33:05.220 that they need
00:33:05.960 to be asking.
00:33:07.040 And they're giving,
00:33:07.800 you know,
00:33:08.020 they're bowing down
00:33:08.860 and genuflecting 0.95
00:33:09.780 to Anthony Fauci
00:33:10.880 who has a very
00:33:13.160 well-documented
00:33:14.300 and very checkerty
00:33:16.080 history of telling
00:33:17.900 the truth,
00:33:18.820 of not telling
00:33:19.420 the truth,
00:33:20.160 of abusing
00:33:21.420 his power
00:33:22.200 and of,
00:33:24.420 you know,
00:33:24.860 resulting
00:33:25.360 and of doing
00:33:26.380 really sinister
00:33:27.340 things like
00:33:28.100 hiding the
00:33:29.220 leukemia virus
00:33:30.240 that is known
00:33:31.380 to be in three
00:33:32.500 of our large
00:33:33.080 vaccines that we
00:33:34.000 know causes cancer.
00:33:35.020 And he's hidden
00:33:37.100 that from the
00:33:37.580 American people.
00:33:38.660 He fired the
00:33:40.440 number one
00:33:41.220 scientist at NIH
00:33:42.620 when her studies
00:33:43.740 showed that those
00:33:45.620 vaccines were
00:33:46.340 contaminated.
00:33:46.880 And he also,
00:33:51.280 he was,
00:33:52.160 Judy Mikovits,
00:33:53.020 who worked
00:33:53.600 for the agency,
00:33:55.320 was on the team
00:33:57.160 that identified
00:33:58.380 the HIV vaccine,
00:34:00.280 or HIV virus,
00:34:01.520 and connected it
00:34:02.180 to AIDS.
00:34:02.960 And he kept
00:34:03.660 that secret
00:34:04.340 for six months
00:34:05.240 that he could get
00:34:07.160 one of his cronies
00:34:08.120 to make the publication.
00:34:09.340 But that resulted
00:34:10.280 in many,
00:34:11.240 many people
00:34:11.800 getting AIDS
00:34:12.580 because the test
00:34:13.280 was delayed
00:34:14.100 by six months.
00:34:14.980 And those things
00:34:16.960 are, you know,
00:34:18.440 are really black spots
00:34:19.660 on Tony Fauci's record.
00:34:21.760 And to turn
00:34:22.600 our entire nation
00:34:23.840 over to Tony Fauci
00:34:26.740 with this unquestioned
00:34:28.260 reverence
00:34:28.980 and the constant,
00:34:30.300 you know,
00:34:30.780 genuflecting to him,
00:34:31.860 I think is something
00:34:32.740 that is not healthy
00:34:34.360 for our country.
00:34:35.300 And it's really
00:34:36.240 kind of sickening
00:34:37.280 to see,
00:34:38.880 to watch the news division.
00:34:40.560 These people
00:34:40.960 are supposed
00:34:41.380 to be reporters
00:34:42.200 doing the exact
00:34:43.400 same thing
00:34:43.960 that they did
00:34:44.480 during the Iraq war,
00:34:45.680 which is that,
00:34:46.700 you know,
00:34:46.940 what reporters
00:34:47.900 are not supposed
00:34:48.660 to take the word
00:34:50.540 of government officials.
00:34:51.960 My father told me
00:34:53.020 when I was a kid,
00:34:55.140 people in power lie.
00:34:57.240 The job of a reporter
00:34:58.180 is constant skepticism,
00:35:00.200 constant scrutiny,
00:35:01.680 and to ask
00:35:02.480 the difficult questions.
00:35:03.540 And that simply
00:35:04.200 is not happening.
00:35:05.880 Wow.
00:35:06.480 Wow.
00:35:06.820 Yeah,
00:35:06.960 I have the article
00:35:07.600 right here
00:35:07.980 where you said,
00:35:08.840 well,
00:35:09.600 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:35:11.380 warns Anthony Fauci
00:35:12.360 is a fraud
00:35:12.940 and has poisoned
00:35:13.620 an entire generation
00:35:14.520 of Americans.
00:35:15.040 This was just 10 days
00:35:15.900 ago,
00:35:16.080 April 20th.
00:35:17.040 So let's just say
00:35:18.240 you were a reporter.
00:35:19.320 Say Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
00:35:21.400 instead of wanting
00:35:22.180 to go into environmental law,
00:35:24.040 you have a conversation
00:35:24.820 and you decide,
00:35:26.360 you know,
00:35:26.860 I think I want
00:35:28.020 to go be a reporter.
00:35:29.100 If you're a reporter today,
00:35:30.960 if you're a reporter today,
00:35:32.180 and you're interviewing
00:35:33.180 Dr. Anthony Fauci,
00:35:34.780 what questions
00:35:35.620 would you be asking?
00:35:36.380 I would be saying,
00:35:39.280 I mean,
00:35:39.540 number one,
00:35:40.580 why are we skipping
00:35:42.680 animal studies
00:35:43.600 with these vaccines?
00:35:44.840 We know the history
00:35:45.640 of the coronavirus vaccine.
00:35:47.340 Coronavirus vaccines
00:35:48.600 in the past
00:35:49.840 have shown themselves
00:35:50.740 to be very,
00:35:51.480 very dangerous vaccines,
00:35:52.980 very volatile vaccines.
00:35:55.360 And I'll explain
00:35:56.460 to you why that's so.
00:35:59.300 In 2002,
00:36:01.600 beginning in 2002,
00:36:02.840 there were three SARS epidemics,
00:36:04.780 and these are,
00:36:07.300 SARS is a coronavirus.
00:36:10.200 And what the first of those
00:36:12.380 was a natural occurring coronavirus
00:36:15.220 that jumped from bats
00:36:17.180 in China to human beings.
00:36:20.800 The second two
00:36:21.940 were lab-created coronavirus 0.84
00:36:24.360 vaccines,
00:36:25.200 coronaviruses
00:36:26.480 that escaped from the lab
00:36:28.400 and caused these epidemics.
00:36:29.880 And that's non-controversial.
00:36:31.340 Everybody, you know,
00:36:32.600 agrees with that.
00:36:34.780 But there was deep concern
00:36:37.220 about the transmissibility
00:36:39.300 and the virulence
00:36:40.240 of coronavirus
00:36:40.900 and its capacity
00:36:42.060 to jump from animals
00:36:43.020 to human beings.
00:36:44.800 So all the major nations,
00:36:47.200 Western nations,
00:36:48.080 and China got together
00:36:49.240 in the,
00:36:50.780 between 2006 and 2012
00:36:53.780 to create coronavirus vaccines.
00:36:57.080 They created about 30 vaccines
00:36:58.920 and they chose
00:37:00.260 the four most promising ones.
00:37:01.940 This is a consortium
00:37:02.920 of the best scientists,
00:37:04.360 virologists,
00:37:05.160 and immunologists in the world.
00:37:07.440 They gave those four vaccines
00:37:09.520 to ferrets.
00:37:10.440 And ferrets are the closest analogy
00:37:12.120 when it comes to upper respiratory infections
00:37:14.160 to human beings.
00:37:15.120 They're heavily utilized
00:37:16.860 to study coronavirus.
00:37:17.920 Ferrets had an excellent
00:37:22.560 immune response
00:37:24.820 to the vaccines,
00:37:25.800 meaning they developed antibodies.
00:37:27.800 And that's the metric
00:37:29.000 that FDA uses
00:37:30.580 when it licenses a vaccine.
00:37:33.080 It just looks and says,
00:37:34.360 is it producing antibody?
00:37:35.480 Vaccines are never tested
00:37:36.620 in the field, Patrick.
00:37:37.760 Nobody ever gives
00:37:38.820 5,000 people a vaccine
00:37:41.580 and 5,000 people no vaccine
00:37:43.040 and then sends them out
00:37:44.220 and sees what happens.
00:37:45.500 That's not how
00:37:46.280 they get licensed.
00:37:47.940 They get licensed
00:37:49.020 by showing
00:37:49.880 that they can produce antibodies.
00:37:51.500 And the presumption is
00:37:52.540 that that antibody
00:37:53.440 will defend you
00:37:54.520 against future attacks
00:37:56.220 by that virus.
00:37:59.140 And so they,
00:38:00.420 the ferrets developed
00:38:02.580 a really good antibody response
00:38:04.400 and they thought
00:38:05.160 they had four winners here.
00:38:07.520 But,
00:38:08.680 and something really frightening
00:38:10.300 happened.
00:38:11.100 When those ferrets
00:38:12.120 were exposed
00:38:12.780 to the wild virus,
00:38:14.520 they had developed
00:38:16.320 horrible inflammation
00:38:19.120 throughout all the organs
00:38:20.260 on their bodies
00:38:21.020 and they died.
00:38:23.440 Particularly in their lungs
00:38:24.800 and they died.
00:38:27.080 And then those scientists
00:38:28.120 remembered
00:38:28.740 that the same thing
00:38:30.820 had happened
00:38:31.280 when they had tried
00:38:32.400 an RSV vaccine
00:38:34.040 in the 1960s
00:38:35.660 on children.
00:38:37.500 They had an RSV
00:38:38.320 that was very similar
00:38:39.080 to coronavirus,
00:38:40.100 upper respiratory infection
00:38:41.360 and they had given it
00:38:42.380 to about,
00:38:43.120 they skipped animal studies.
00:38:44.940 They gave it to
00:38:45.780 35 kids
00:38:48.040 and it was an excellent immune,
00:38:49.860 provoked excellent immune response.
00:38:51.920 But then when those kids
00:38:53.220 were exposed
00:38:53.720 to the wild virus,
00:38:54.980 they became horribly sick
00:38:56.520 and two of them died
00:38:57.860 and they immediately
00:38:58.980 discontinued that study
00:39:00.340 and it was a scandal.
00:39:01.980 Everybody remembered it
00:39:03.040 and they were in 2012
00:39:05.380 and they were testing
00:39:07.700 all of these vaccines.
00:39:09.420 They said to themselves
00:39:10.460 on ferrets,
00:39:11.380 they said,
00:39:11.840 this is what happened
00:39:12.880 to those children.
00:39:14.460 We tried it out
00:39:15.420 and they developed
00:39:16.120 antibody response
00:39:17.100 but then they had
00:39:17.900 what we call
00:39:18.440 paradoxical immune enhancement.
00:39:20.600 Now when they were exposed
00:39:21.580 to the real virus,
00:39:23.420 instead of protecting against it,
00:39:25.840 it actually enhanced it
00:39:27.200 and it made it much more deadly.
00:39:29.620 And then they connected it
00:39:30.920 in 2014
00:39:31.940 to the dengue vaccine,
00:39:33.920 which was one of
00:39:34.620 Tony Fauci's vaccines,
00:39:37.160 which had a lot
00:39:37.940 of those same red flags
00:39:39.840 during the clinical trials,
00:39:42.440 but they gave it
00:39:43.440 to the Filipinos anyway.
00:39:45.240 The Philippines gave it
00:39:46.740 to hundreds of thousands
00:39:47.620 of kids.
00:39:49.240 The kids were great,
00:39:50.740 great immune response
00:39:51.960 and then when they were
00:39:52.920 exposed to the wild virus,
00:39:54.480 they died,
00:39:54.980 600 of them died.
00:39:56.340 And the Philippine government
00:39:57.280 today is prosecuting criminally
00:39:59.200 and putting people
00:39:59.980 in jail for that
00:40:00.840 because they knew it.
00:40:02.400 They knew something bad
00:40:03.460 was going to happen
00:40:04.120 from the clinical trials.
00:40:06.540 And so this is something
00:40:10.620 that is a unique peculiarity
00:40:12.660 of coronavirus.
00:40:14.840 And it's puzzling
00:40:16.820 that Tony Fauci
00:40:17.860 on his own vaccine,
00:40:19.260 the Moderna vaccine,
00:40:20.240 which he, you know,
00:40:21.100 his agency owns 50%
00:40:23.020 of that vaccine,
00:40:23.900 and they went right
00:40:26.020 to human testing
00:40:26.900 without testing on animals.
00:40:28.540 And that just seems
00:40:29.420 almost criminally irresponsible.
00:40:32.040 And he's allowing
00:40:32.780 the same thing.
00:40:34.680 Oh, I would ask him,
00:40:36.120 knowing that history,
00:40:37.800 and by the way,
00:40:39.800 it's not just me saying this.
00:40:41.440 All the people
00:40:42.080 who have criticized me
00:40:43.220 for my stance on vaccines
00:40:44.540 for many years,
00:40:45.460 the leaders like Peter Hotez,
00:40:47.960 Paul Offit,
00:40:48.940 and Ian Lipkin
00:40:49.640 are all saying
00:40:50.320 the same thing
00:40:50.960 that I'm saying
00:40:51.600 to you right now.
00:40:52.420 You have to be really,
00:40:54.700 really careful
00:40:55.400 with the coronavirus vaccine.
00:40:57.800 The reason is
00:40:58.680 that vaccines develop
00:41:01.680 an immune response,
00:41:06.840 but they develop
00:41:09.180 different kinds.
00:41:09.980 There are two different
00:41:10.680 kinds of antibodies,
00:41:11.740 and this is what they found
00:41:12.520 out from this process.
00:41:14.640 There's neutralizing antibodies
00:41:16.240 which you want
00:41:17.220 your body to produce,
00:41:18.700 and that guards you
00:41:19.560 against the disease.
00:41:20.560 Those are good antibodies.
00:41:22.820 They also produce
00:41:24.060 a specific species
00:41:25.440 of antibodies
00:41:26.240 called blinding antibodies,
00:41:29.720 and those are the ones
00:41:30.880 that provoke
00:41:31.580 that enhanced immune response
00:41:34.180 once you're exposed
00:41:35.420 to the vaccine,
00:41:36.480 and you have to figure out
00:41:37.720 which one of those
00:41:39.600 you're actually producing.
00:41:41.200 And it's unclear
00:41:42.240 that the way you do that
00:41:44.920 is by testing it on animals.
00:41:46.120 And they're not doing that
00:41:48.680 in this case.
00:41:49.440 The other thing
00:41:50.040 that they're not doing
00:41:50.760 is they're not using
00:41:51.680 placebo testing,
00:41:53.240 which means nobody
00:41:54.840 will ever know
00:41:56.060 what the risk profile
00:41:57.520 is for those products.
00:41:59.580 If you don't test
00:42:00.780 against placebo,
00:42:02.520 you don't know
00:42:04.240 whether the people
00:42:05.140 who became ill
00:42:06.320 in that cohort
00:42:07.220 that received the vaccine
00:42:08.280 became ill
00:42:08.880 because of the vaccine,
00:42:10.760 or it's just coincidental.
00:42:12.840 There's no way to know,
00:42:14.280 and so they don't even record it.
00:42:16.460 And it immediately
00:42:20.080 creates opportunities
00:42:21.920 for bias,
00:42:23.040 for corruption,
00:42:23.920 and for cheating
00:42:24.420 if you do not use placebo.
00:42:26.260 And that's why
00:42:26.760 the World Health Organization,
00:42:28.120 CDC, FDA, NIH,
00:42:30.060 everybody says
00:42:30.960 if you don't use placebo,
00:42:33.880 it's not science,
00:42:35.280 it's marketing.
00:42:36.820 And that's what
00:42:37.420 they're doing.
00:42:37.940 They're doing all
00:42:38.780 of these tests
00:42:39.580 without using placebo.
00:42:41.940 And I would say
00:42:42.540 to Anthony Fauci,
00:42:44.400 well, why aren't you
00:42:45.380 using a placebo group?
00:42:46.800 Are you scared
00:42:47.700 about what is going
00:42:49.240 to be shown
00:42:49.880 about safety
00:42:50.740 if you actually
00:42:51.960 use a treatment
00:42:52.780 of placebo group?
00:42:53.460 It's completely
00:42:54.040 irresponsible.
00:42:55.420 When you look
00:42:56.540 at the data
00:42:57.080 and the media shows
00:42:58.320 approval rating
00:42:59.540 of Fauci against Trump,
00:43:01.040 and they constantly
00:43:01.580 show that,
00:43:02.100 that America trusts Fauci
00:43:04.340 more than Trump
00:43:05.980 right now,
00:43:06.960 behind closed doors,
00:43:08.320 what is the motivation
00:43:09.520 of Fauci?
00:43:12.040 You know,
00:43:12.500 you have a lot
00:43:13.640 of folks
00:43:14.060 who are watching
00:43:14.560 saying this man
00:43:15.240 seems like
00:43:15.620 a reasonable guy.
00:43:17.940 Fauci has a bias
00:43:19.260 towards vaccines,
00:43:20.560 and he owns
00:43:21.440 the vaccine.
00:43:22.240 So he has the patent.
00:43:23.420 He literally
00:43:24.040 owns vaccine patents.
00:43:25.440 Is it purely profit?
00:43:26.640 Motivation is purely profit?
00:43:27.960 Well, no,
00:43:28.240 I think it's power.
00:43:29.900 And I think the same
00:43:30.640 is true of the case.
00:43:31.440 Both of them
00:43:31.980 actually stand
00:43:33.060 to make huge amounts
00:43:34.040 of money,
00:43:34.820 you know,
00:43:35.340 potentially billions
00:43:36.380 to millions of dollars.
00:43:38.460 But I don't believe,
00:43:39.740 you know,
00:43:39.920 it's very hard
00:43:40.620 to look into
00:43:41.300 another man's brain,
00:43:42.480 and I try not to do that.
00:43:44.600 But just looking at them,
00:43:47.080 I really believe
00:43:48.200 that their motivation
00:43:49.800 is more about power,
00:43:51.640 and there is no
00:43:52.740 more powerful position
00:43:54.160 than being a health official
00:43:55.720 because you can
00:43:56.860 literally dictate.
00:43:58.000 I mean,
00:43:58.220 at this point,
00:43:59.840 Tony Fauci
00:44:00.840 has powers
00:44:02.240 that no American 0.97
00:44:03.140 president has ever had.
00:44:04.600 You know,
00:44:05.120 telling people
00:44:05.720 in California,
00:44:06.640 you can't go to the beach,
00:44:07.880 you can't go in the ocean,
00:44:09.620 you can't go shop,
00:44:11.620 your kids can't go to school,
00:44:13.800 you have to stay
00:44:14.640 in your house.
00:44:16.000 You're going to,
00:44:16.600 you know,
00:44:16.840 two days ago,
00:44:17.760 they were giving
00:44:18.360 $1,000 tickets
00:44:20.560 to people
00:44:21.040 who were swimming
00:44:21.600 in the ocean
00:44:22.220 and surfing.
00:44:23.600 No president's ever
00:44:24.760 had that kind
00:44:25.340 of power before,
00:44:26.060 but today,
00:44:27.000 Fauci,
00:44:27.720 who is very,
00:44:28.480 very close,
00:44:29.200 partners with Gates,
00:44:31.180 are telling America
00:44:31.960 and what they're saying,
00:44:33.140 if you listen carefully,
00:44:34.380 what they're saying is,
00:44:36.420 you all are going
00:44:38.180 to stay in the house
00:44:39.360 until we have a vaccine.
00:44:41.820 It's not going
00:44:42.300 to be safe to come out.
00:44:44.280 And that is
00:44:45.300 a tremendous power
00:44:46.140 to tell people
00:44:46.880 they have to wait
00:44:47.780 and do that
00:44:48.540 until you get the vaccine.
00:44:49.780 Now,
00:44:50.060 you know what,
00:44:50.520 I think
00:44:51.040 there is a struggle
00:44:53.300 between two different ways
00:44:55.040 to handle this quarantine.
00:44:57.880 And nobody,
00:44:59.320 everybody's saying
00:44:59.880 listen to the scientists.
00:45:02.040 But there's a flaw there,
00:45:04.480 which is the scientists
00:45:05.840 can tell you,
00:45:07.420 maybe,
00:45:08.000 can model,
00:45:09.060 they can model
00:45:09.700 how many people
00:45:11.380 are going to die
00:45:12.120 from coronavirus
00:45:13.080 using different scenarios.
00:45:16.700 You know,
00:45:17.440 if we all go back
00:45:19.160 to work tomorrow,
00:45:20.200 here's how many people die.
00:45:22.320 If we all stay
00:45:23.240 locked up for six months,
00:45:24.460 here's how many people.
00:45:25.400 And they can do that
00:45:26.140 probably pretty well.
00:45:28.160 Well,
00:45:28.300 people are saying,
00:45:28.900 listen to the scientists.
00:45:29.880 But there's something
00:45:30.580 that is not being modeled here,
00:45:32.880 which is something
00:45:34.640 that those scientists
00:45:35.740 have no expertise on,
00:45:37.700 which is how many people
00:45:38.940 are being killed
00:45:39.860 by the quarantine.
00:45:41.740 There's really good data
00:45:43.460 that is solid
00:45:45.840 from,
00:45:46.520 you know,
00:45:46.840 dozens and dozens
00:45:47.780 and some studies
00:45:48.560 that show
00:45:50.100 that,
00:45:52.200 number one,
00:45:53.100 isolation kills
00:45:54.340 lots of people.
00:45:56.440 It kills people
00:45:57.160 through depression,
00:45:58.160 it kills people
00:45:58.740 through mistakes,
00:45:59.840 it kills people
00:46:00.500 from not getting,
00:46:01.460 you know,
00:46:01.820 routine medical care.
00:46:04.120 It kills people
00:46:05.200 in a lot of different ways.
00:46:06.260 But also,
00:46:08.120 it,
00:46:08.780 unemployment kills people.
00:46:11.700 So there's a really good
00:46:13.040 1982 book
00:46:14.460 that's considered
00:46:15.180 authoritative.
00:46:17.000 And that book
00:46:17.920 did all of the modeling
00:46:19.140 on,
00:46:19.760 you know,
00:46:20.080 on historical
00:46:20.880 unemployment rates.
00:46:21.940 And this was a long time ago,
00:46:23.120 so our population
00:46:24.120 has almost doubled
00:46:25.380 since then.
00:46:27.060 But what they,
00:46:27.940 that book found
00:46:28.580 is that
00:46:29.060 for every point
00:46:30.520 in unemployment,
00:46:31.700 if there's
00:46:32.160 37,000 people die,
00:46:35.040 about 9,000 people
00:46:36.160 die from heart attacks, 0.73
00:46:37.680 about 900 people
00:46:38.660 die from suicides, 0.81
00:46:39.980 all these different reasons
00:46:41.200 that they die, 0.53
00:46:42.060 and then 3,300 people
00:46:45.480 go to prison
00:46:47.300 every one point,
00:46:48.920 and an extra 4,000 people
00:46:50.360 end up in mental institutions.
00:46:52.860 Oh, we're looking
00:46:53.620 at unemployment rates
00:46:54.660 from this quarantine
00:46:55.500 that are going
00:46:56.780 to exceed 35%.
00:46:58.920 In other words,
00:46:59.660 the increase
00:47:00.880 has gone from 3.5%
00:47:02.860 and it will go to 35%.
00:47:05.480 You multiply
00:47:07.320 37,000 by 30,
00:47:09.980 and you're looking
00:47:10.880 at over a million people,
00:47:12.160 about 1.1 million people
00:47:14.600 who could die
00:47:16.520 from the quarantine,
00:47:17.540 just from that metric.
00:47:19.280 And then there's
00:47:19.700 a lot of other metrics.
00:47:20.720 For example,
00:47:22.560 what do we,
00:47:23.000 you know,
00:47:23.220 we are hurting the,
00:47:25.560 we're disrupting
00:47:26.920 the food,
00:47:28.660 the supply chains
00:47:29.540 for foods
00:47:30.340 and medicines.
00:47:31.640 So people
00:47:32.260 are not going
00:47:32.920 to get their medicines,
00:47:33.860 people are not
00:47:34.320 going to get their foods.
00:47:35.320 this has nothing
00:47:36.560 to do with unemployment.
00:47:38.940 People are also,
00:47:40.280 today,
00:47:40.760 are not seeing doctors
00:47:42.160 for routine medication,
00:47:43.940 for routine treatment.
00:47:45.280 People who have cancer,
00:47:47.140 people who have diabetes,
00:47:49.140 people of hypertension,
00:47:50.540 who are skipping
00:47:51.300 doctor's appointments
00:47:52.300 because of the quarantine.
00:47:54.580 Those people
00:47:55.260 are also at risk.
00:47:56.320 And then there's
00:47:56.980 the impacts
00:47:57.820 on children
00:47:58.400 who aren't going
00:47:59.120 to school.
00:48:00.160 So there's
00:48:00.800 a tremendous amount
00:48:01.940 of impacts
00:48:02.880 that have not
00:48:03.680 been modeled.
00:48:04.600 And if we want
00:48:05.220 to have good public
00:48:06.200 policy in this country,
00:48:08.460 you need to actually
00:48:09.640 do a risk assessment
00:48:10.820 and say,
00:48:11.940 what are the full risks?
00:48:13.520 You know,
00:48:13.720 let's not just look
00:48:15.180 at the coronavirus deaths.
00:48:17.420 Let's look at that,
00:48:18.460 the deaths
00:48:18.860 on the alternative
00:48:19.920 coronavirus,
00:48:20.920 which is quarantine.
00:48:22.760 The Swedes did this 1.00
00:48:24.340 and they said,
00:48:26.180 it's not going to work.
00:48:28.320 And they looked at it
00:48:29.160 and they,
00:48:29.640 you know,
00:48:29.820 the chief epidemiologist
00:48:31.280 of Sweden said,
00:48:32.220 we're going to go
00:48:32.860 back to work
00:48:33.540 and we're not going
00:48:34.020 to have any
00:48:34.360 of these restrictions
00:48:35.160 on, you know,
00:48:37.380 social distancing,
00:48:38.420 et cetera.
00:48:38.880 We're going to protect
00:48:39.780 the elderly.
00:48:41.240 And this is what,
00:48:42.140 you know,
00:48:42.420 I think we all thought
00:48:43.540 was going to happen.
00:48:45.500 We would quarantine
00:48:46.520 for a couple of weeks
00:48:48.140 until the hospitals
00:48:49.280 could gear up,
00:48:50.380 until they could get
00:48:50.960 the beds,
00:48:51.700 they could get
00:48:52.180 the ventilators,
00:48:53.040 they could get
00:48:53.540 the testing kits,
00:48:56.820 they could get
00:48:57.440 the drugs,
00:48:59.140 you know,
00:49:00.000 the various therapeutics,
00:49:02.820 you know,
00:49:03.060 the IVs,
00:49:04.120 the vitamin C treatments,
00:49:05.380 the remsevere,
00:49:06.620 the chloroquine
00:49:07.880 or whatever.
00:49:09.400 And then we would
00:49:10.980 have an avalanche
00:49:12.160 where all the young people
00:49:14.020 who are in good condition
00:49:16.100 and who are not
00:49:16.880 very vulnerable to this
00:49:17.860 would come out
00:49:18.780 and resume life
00:49:19.740 as usual,
00:49:21.120 go to work,
00:49:21.800 go to play.
00:49:23.640 We would keep isolated
00:49:25.540 people who have
00:49:26.640 chronic health conditions
00:49:27.940 and the seniors
00:49:29.660 and elderly
00:49:30.260 because they're vulnerable.
00:49:32.320 And those people,
00:49:33.420 if you could show
00:49:34.040 that you have
00:49:34.440 a chronic health,
00:49:35.240 then we would pay
00:49:36.800 their paychecks
00:49:37.800 and take care of them
00:49:39.060 and keep them isolated
00:49:40.300 until the disease
00:49:42.500 runs through
00:49:43.100 the population
00:49:43.920 and we develop
00:49:45.420 a herd immunity
00:49:46.600 and then they're
00:49:47.580 protected by that.
00:49:49.500 And that,
00:49:50.220 and then also,
00:49:51.220 you know,
00:49:51.420 by that time
00:49:52.100 we have better therapeutics
00:49:53.500 that can really
00:49:54.140 treat this disease.
00:49:55.280 and that would be
00:49:57.180 a plan that would,
00:49:58.700 would not,
00:49:59.920 you know,
00:50:00.300 bankrupt generations
00:50:01.540 of Americans.
00:50:03.240 And,
00:50:03.760 and that's what
00:50:04.440 they're doing in Sweden.
00:50:05.800 And what they say
00:50:06.520 in Sweden is,
00:50:07.200 yes,
00:50:07.580 we do have a spike
00:50:08.900 in death rates
00:50:09.720 compared to Norway,
00:50:11.380 which is quarantine,
00:50:13.920 but a year from now,
00:50:15.720 we're going to have,
00:50:16.380 everybody's going to have
00:50:17.260 the same death rate.
00:50:18.560 Italy,
00:50:19.160 the U.S.,
00:50:20.000 you know,
00:50:20.500 Sweden,
00:50:21.260 everywhere's going to have
00:50:22.020 a year from now,
00:50:23.080 they're going to all
00:50:23.480 have the same death rate.
00:50:25.560 We will still have
00:50:26.360 an economy
00:50:26.880 and you will.
00:50:28.080 And I think
00:50:28.720 that's a risk,
00:50:29.580 you know,
00:50:29.880 that,
00:50:30.280 that is not being assessed.
00:50:32.320 And,
00:50:32.560 you know,
00:50:32.740 there's this
00:50:33.340 effort given to scientists
00:50:35.860 without actually
00:50:37.800 answering the question
00:50:39.260 is,
00:50:39.740 is this scientist
00:50:40.620 equipped to actually
00:50:41.920 give us advice
00:50:42.900 on this issue
00:50:43.660 or should we limit
00:50:45.360 his advice
00:50:46.060 to what his expertise is?
00:50:48.240 Tony Fauci
00:50:48.980 has zero
00:50:50.460 training
00:50:51.860 and zero capacity
00:50:53.700 and has probably
00:50:55.500 never read
00:50:56.160 a single study
00:50:57.340 about the cost
00:50:59.180 of unemployment
00:51:00.360 on public health.
00:51:02.880 He knows about
00:51:03.940 virology
00:51:04.700 and immunology.
00:51:06.940 He doesn't know
00:51:07.560 anything about
00:51:08.140 these other impacts.
00:51:09.200 Why is he calling
00:51:10.120 the shots?
00:51:11.820 Why is he calling
00:51:12.580 the shots?
00:51:13.440 Well,
00:51:13.900 you know,
00:51:14.640 I think that is
00:51:15.720 a combination
00:51:17.800 of things
00:51:18.620 and some of it,
00:51:19.780 a lot of it
00:51:20.360 has to do
00:51:21.060 with the,
00:51:21.740 the incapacity,
00:51:25.440 the,
00:51:25.740 the acquired incapacity
00:51:28.240 of Anderson Cooper
00:51:29.800 and CNN
00:51:32.160 to scrutinize
00:51:36.560 the orthodoxies
00:51:39.000 of the pharmaceutical
00:51:40.340 and medical cartels.
00:51:43.200 They will not ask
00:51:44.280 the questions.
00:51:44.940 And,
00:51:46.160 you know,
00:51:46.620 if they,
00:51:47.160 if Tony Fauci
00:51:47.900 tell them,
00:51:49.440 tell them,
00:51:49.880 a flu shot
00:51:50.660 is good for you,
00:51:51.920 it's proven to work,
00:51:53.280 they will believe that.
00:51:54.100 They won't actually
00:51:54.880 look at the science.
00:51:56.300 And,
00:51:56.520 you know,
00:51:56.700 the Cochran Collaboration,
00:51:59.160 which is the ultimate
00:51:59.940 arbiter on science,
00:52:01.720 the Cochran Collaboration
00:52:03.060 has looked at
00:52:04.140 every published flu study.
00:52:06.680 And what they've said
00:52:07.860 is the flu vaccine
00:52:10.280 does not work.
00:52:11.460 It does not prevent deaths
00:52:13.260 in the elderly.
00:52:14.860 It actually enhances,
00:52:17.520 it makes you more vulnerable
00:52:19.300 to non-flu infections.
00:52:22.100 CNN every year,
00:52:23.280 let me tell you this,
00:52:24.200 Patrick,
00:52:24.660 every year,
00:52:25.480 CNN releases
00:52:27.080 flu death data.
00:52:30.040 And that data
00:52:31.380 is not real data.
00:52:34.080 It's fake data.
00:52:35.540 So,
00:52:36.060 and I'll tell you
00:52:36.860 what they do.
00:52:37.440 the CDC
00:52:39.780 actually does
00:52:41.200 very good
00:52:42.240 data gathering.
00:52:43.600 And it assembles
00:52:44.360 the data
00:52:44.820 on American health
00:52:46.140 and death certificates
00:52:47.320 in an index
00:52:49.360 called the mortality
00:52:50.300 and morbidity data.
00:52:52.220 And if you go
00:52:52.920 to the mortality
00:52:53.540 and morbidity data,
00:52:54.940 you can see
00:52:55.680 how many flu deaths
00:52:56.800 actually happen
00:52:57.760 in America
00:52:58.540 every year.
00:52:59.480 But nobody does that.
00:53:01.520 And instead,
00:53:02.740 CNN reports
00:53:04.120 every year
00:53:04.960 that the flu deaths
00:53:06.220 in this country
00:53:06.840 were between
00:53:07.460 60,000 and 90,000.
00:53:09.560 And they'll say
00:53:10.200 it's worse than ever.
00:53:11.760 It could be
00:53:12.720 95,000 deaths
00:53:14.180 this year
00:53:14.660 from flu.
00:53:16.320 Take your flu shot.
00:53:17.400 And if you go around
00:53:18.380 and ask people,
00:53:19.160 do you actually know
00:53:19.920 anybody who's ever
00:53:20.660 died of a flu?
00:53:21.920 Most people will tell you
00:53:22.820 no.
00:53:23.700 If 95,000 people
00:53:25.160 were dying every year
00:53:26.160 of flu,
00:53:26.520 we'd all know
00:53:27.200 people who died
00:53:27.900 of the flu.
00:53:28.280 The truth is
00:53:30.200 at the year
00:53:31.600 they said 95,000,
00:53:32.920 which was two years ago,
00:53:33.940 there were 2,000 people
00:53:35.040 who died of the flu.
00:53:36.840 The average death rate
00:53:38.140 for the flu
00:53:38.740 over the past 20 years
00:53:40.160 is around 1,000 people a year.
00:53:42.940 And what they do
00:53:44.240 is they conflate
00:53:45.360 the mortality
00:53:47.900 and morbidity data
00:53:48.900 for pneumonia
00:53:49.860 with the flu.
00:53:51.960 And only 7%
00:53:53.460 of pneumonial cases
00:53:54.620 are actually caused
00:53:55.580 by the flu
00:53:56.160 of pneumonia deaths.
00:53:57.360 The rest of them
00:53:58.340 are non-flu
00:53:59.320 or respiratory infections.
00:54:03.600 So CNN
00:54:04.120 just lies about that
00:54:05.560 every year.
00:54:06.380 And I don't think
00:54:07.080 Sanjay Gupta
00:54:07.900 and Anderson Cooper
00:54:08.920 actually want to lie,
00:54:11.000 but it's part
00:54:11.800 of their gestalt.
00:54:14.640 They're, you know,
00:54:15.380 they're supposed
00:54:15.860 to push the flu vaccine.
00:54:17.400 They're supposed
00:54:17.800 to scare the hell
00:54:18.520 out of everybody
00:54:19.200 and make everybody
00:54:19.920 think they're going
00:54:20.480 to die
00:54:20.820 if they don't get it.
00:54:22.400 Well, they do that. 0.81
00:54:23.420 And the fact is
00:54:24.760 that the flu
00:54:25.420 does not kill
00:54:26.620 that many people
00:54:27.320 in this country.
00:54:27.980 It's not a dangerous disease.
00:54:30.100 And the flu vaccine
00:54:32.120 costs a lot more harm
00:54:34.080 than the flu does.
00:54:35.400 For somebody
00:54:36.280 that's watching
00:54:36.840 is saying,
00:54:38.000 Robert,
00:54:38.580 why is your data right
00:54:39.940 and not their data?
00:54:41.040 If you're saying
00:54:41.480 only 1,000 versus 60,
00:54:43.040 that's a big difference.
00:54:44.060 Listen,
00:54:44.800 nobody should trust me
00:54:46.060 and nobody should
00:54:48.060 trust Anderson Cooper
00:54:49.100 and nobody should
00:54:50.120 trust Tony Fauci.
00:54:51.540 They should trust
00:54:52.140 the science.
00:54:53.060 And what I'm using
00:54:54.260 is not my data.
00:54:55.640 It's their data.
00:54:57.380 And, you know,
00:54:58.040 I've written a letter
00:54:59.660 to Sanjay Gupta
00:55:00.700 outlining all
00:55:03.700 of the standard
00:55:04.520 in a very polite
00:55:05.980 civil letter,
00:55:06.860 but just saying,
00:55:07.640 you know,
00:55:07.820 Sanjay,
00:55:08.340 I admire you a lot
00:55:09.380 and I know you're
00:55:10.020 not deliberately
00:55:10.560 doing this,
00:55:11.340 but you say
00:55:12.280 these things
00:55:13.140 every year
00:55:13.960 and here's why
00:55:14.980 each of them
00:55:15.560 is wrong
00:55:16.000 according to CNN
00:55:18.180 and stated.
00:55:19.060 Now,
00:55:19.360 everything I say
00:55:21.260 on my Instagram page,
00:55:23.000 every single statement
00:55:24.400 is sourced
00:55:25.640 and cited.
00:55:27.720 You can't do it
00:55:28.920 on Instagram
00:55:29.560 because Instagram
00:55:30.420 doesn't let you link.
00:55:31.740 So I always publish it
00:55:32.920 first on Instagram
00:55:33.860 because that's kind of
00:55:34.840 my, you know,
00:55:35.840 best platform.
00:55:39.160 But I always,
00:55:40.940 you know,
00:55:41.280 usually within 24 hours,
00:55:42.880 reprint it
00:55:43.500 on Children's Health
00:55:44.540 Defense website
00:55:45.320 with all the sites
00:55:46.880 and with all the sourcing
00:55:48.020 there,
00:55:48.340 but we don't say
00:55:49.120 if I said something
00:55:51.180 that was untrue,
00:55:52.300 people would be
00:55:52.960 all over me.
00:55:54.060 If I,
00:55:54.500 you know,
00:55:54.920 my enemies
00:55:55.920 are watching everything
00:55:57.000 that I say,
00:55:57.780 the pharmaceutical industry
00:55:58.760 is watching everything
00:55:59.580 I say,
00:56:00.100 so I am very,
00:56:01.560 very careful
00:56:02.320 that any public statement
00:56:04.700 that I make
00:56:05.460 is sourced.
00:56:06.320 and, you know,
00:56:07.920 if I made a mistake,
00:56:10.680 which I'm sure
00:56:11.360 at some point
00:56:12.260 is possible
00:56:12.840 for me to do,
00:56:14.500 and somebody told me
00:56:15.420 I made a mistake,
00:56:16.220 I would immediately
00:56:17.040 go and correct it.
00:56:18.120 But we don't,
00:56:19.000 you know,
00:56:19.180 we have a whole staff
00:56:20.480 of doctors,
00:56:21.360 nurses,
00:56:21.720 and scientists
00:56:22.740 who review.
00:56:24.840 I submit all of my,
00:56:26.460 you know,
00:56:26.940 my Instagram postings
00:56:28.500 to them
00:56:29.000 before I put them up
00:56:30.080 and I say,
00:56:31.140 can you go through this
00:56:32.160 and source everything
00:56:33.440 and tell me
00:56:34.140 if I've made a mistake?
00:56:35.560 So, you know,
00:56:36.160 we really are careful
00:56:38.060 about making sure
00:56:39.020 everything is sourced
00:56:40.900 to peer review
00:56:41.680 or to a government database.
00:56:45.380 Who's on your side,
00:56:46.480 by the way?
00:56:46.800 Because your position,
00:56:47.860 I mean,
00:56:48.060 I saw the letter
00:56:49.540 your family wrote to you.
00:56:50.940 This was about a year ago.
00:56:52.780 And, you know,
00:56:53.700 RFK is our brother
00:56:54.840 and uncle.
00:56:55.420 He's tragically wrong
00:56:56.340 about vaccines.
00:56:57.080 We love RFK,
00:56:58.400 but he's part
00:56:59.140 of the misinformation
00:57:00.060 campaign that's heartbreaking
00:57:01.320 and deadly consequences.
00:57:03.180 Who's on you?
00:57:03.900 Because when you're talking,
00:57:05.160 if somebody's listening
00:57:06.120 that's in the middle,
00:57:07.100 not a person
00:57:08.220 that's on a big pharma side,
00:57:09.380 say they're CNN,
00:57:10.560 Cooper, Guptall,
00:57:11.300 or not somebody
00:57:11.960 that's on the other side,
00:57:12.800 but somebody that says,
00:57:13.980 a lot of the stuff
00:57:15.300 he's saying
00:57:15.740 makes a lot of sense.
00:57:17.280 Who else is on your side
00:57:18.740 that's a big name
00:57:20.340 and a credible source?
00:57:26.140 You know,
00:57:27.080 listen,
00:57:27.620 we have a lot of doctors
00:57:28.860 and nurses 0.99
00:57:29.800 and nurses 0.99
00:57:29.820 on our side
00:57:31.160 and scientists
00:57:32.180 who are on our side.
00:57:33.700 They're not household names.
00:57:36.360 There are people
00:57:37.040 who are known
00:57:38.100 in the,
00:57:39.020 you know,
00:57:39.260 in scientific fields.
00:57:40.480 For example,
00:57:41.500 you know,
00:57:41.760 the world's top scientist
00:57:43.880 on African vaccines,
00:57:46.120 a guy in Danish,
00:57:48.460 scientist called Peter Aavey.
00:57:50.520 He has hundreds upon hundreds
00:57:52.020 of peer-reviewed publications,
00:57:53.360 and he was always against us
00:57:55.860 until he recently did a study
00:57:58.100 on the DTP vaccine
00:57:59.540 in Africa
00:58:00.200 and showed
00:58:01.960 that it's killing more people
00:58:04.560 than diphtheria,
00:58:05.640 tetanus,
00:58:05.980 and pertussis,
00:58:07.080 and that girls 1.00
00:58:08.800 who get the vaccine
00:58:10.100 are 10 times more likely
00:58:12.680 to die
00:58:13.140 than people
00:58:13.640 who don't get the vaccine.
00:58:15.500 And so,
00:58:16.040 and that brought him,
00:58:16.860 the data brought him over.
00:58:18.260 So we have,
00:58:20.380 you know,
00:58:20.660 there are many,
00:58:21.220 many doctors,
00:58:22.020 but they don't,
00:58:22.860 they don't want to
00:58:23.640 put their heads up
00:58:24.600 because their careers
00:58:25.380 are destroyed.
00:58:26.120 Scientists get their careers destroyed.
00:58:27.980 Journalists lose their careers.
00:58:30.260 People,
00:58:30.680 this is,
00:58:31.260 you know,
00:58:31.720 this is a career killer.
00:58:33.860 The reason
00:58:34.600 that I'm,
00:58:36.840 you know,
00:58:37.020 my name is prominent
00:58:38.200 is because
00:58:40.040 I,
00:58:41.960 you know,
00:58:42.820 I have a track record
00:58:45.020 and I'm a litigator.
00:58:47.160 I argued all these
00:58:48.760 important cases.
00:58:50.060 I was on trial teams
00:58:51.460 in the Monsanto cases
00:58:53.000 and on the case,
00:58:55.560 you know,
00:58:55.800 Mark Ruffler just made a movie
00:58:57.360 about one of my cases,
00:58:59.200 which was the,
00:59:00.060 which was the DuPont case
00:59:02.260 in West Virginia.
00:59:05.360 And,
00:59:06.000 you know,
00:59:06.360 I've been involved
00:59:07.020 in hundreds of lawsuits.
00:59:08.440 I've helped start
00:59:09.220 hundreds of environmental groups
00:59:11.280 and I have a track record
00:59:12.600 and I have friends
00:59:13.640 and I have resilience
00:59:14.580 because of that
00:59:15.560 and because of my family name
00:59:17.140 also
00:59:17.660 and I have a high profile
00:59:18.600 and I have resilience.
00:59:20.140 But otherwise,
00:59:21.020 the industry
00:59:21.660 has spent 15 years,
00:59:23.560 you know,
00:59:23.860 battering me
00:59:24.620 and besieging me
00:59:25.480 and I've lost
00:59:26.120 a lot of friendships
00:59:27.860 and I've lost
00:59:28.720 a lot of business relationships
00:59:30.660 and other relationships
00:59:32.360 and credibility
00:59:33.740 with people
00:59:34.480 who just believe,
00:59:35.580 oh,
00:59:36.200 who never hear my arguments.
00:59:38.980 They never hear them.
00:59:40.620 All they hear is,
00:59:41.900 he's an anti-vaxxer
00:59:42.960 and they say,
00:59:43.940 well,
00:59:44.040 that's wrong.
00:59:44.700 You know,
00:59:45.120 my family,
00:59:47.360 even those three members
00:59:48.900 of my family
00:59:49.440 who wrote that article,
00:59:50.400 I have a big family
00:59:51.420 and I have supporters
00:59:52.360 in the family too,
00:59:53.700 but the three members
00:59:54.640 who wrote that article
00:59:55.800 accused me
00:59:57.380 of being an anti-vaxxer.
00:59:59.000 Oh,
00:59:59.240 and I'm not,
00:59:59.960 I've never said anything
01:00:01.460 anti-vaccine
01:00:02.420 and I'm not anti-vaccine.
01:00:05.540 What I've said is
01:00:06.600 a vaccine should be safe
01:00:09.100 and effective
01:00:09.740 and that they shouldn't
01:00:10.820 be mandated in any case.
01:00:13.100 But if you can make
01:00:14.020 a vaccine that is proven
01:00:15.560 to be safe
01:00:16.160 and proven to be effective,
01:00:17.360 I wouldn't be against it.
01:00:19.440 But let's do,
01:00:20.680 let's walk through the proof.
01:00:23.060 You know,
01:00:23.460 I've spent 37 years
01:00:25.780 trying to get mercury
01:00:28.300 out of fish.
01:00:29.880 Nobody calls me anti-fish.
01:00:32.540 I've spent 37 years
01:00:34.260 trying to get pesticides
01:00:35.200 out of food.
01:00:36.420 Nobody calls me anti-food.
01:00:37.860 I've spent 30 years
01:00:40.820 trying to get,
01:00:42.540 to improve fuel efficiency
01:00:44.780 or get carbon fuel
01:00:46.120 out of automobiles.
01:00:47.180 My, you know,
01:00:47.980 my partnership
01:00:48.820 was the biggest investor
01:00:50.200 in Tesla
01:00:50.860 and the first investor
01:00:53.840 in Tesla.
01:00:55.240 And, you know,
01:00:56.360 I was part of a partnership
01:00:57.760 that built the two biggest
01:00:59.300 solar plants in our country.
01:01:02.960 I want to get,
01:01:04.000 I want to get carbon
01:01:05.340 out of our energy system.
01:01:06.780 Nobody calls me
01:01:07.580 anti-energy.
01:01:09.180 I'm not anti-vaccine.
01:01:11.060 I just want,
01:01:12.380 say,
01:01:12.840 good science,
01:01:13.860 robust science,
01:01:15.540 independent regulators
01:01:16.740 and safety.
01:01:18.960 Oh, I've never said
01:01:20.000 I was anti-vaccine.
01:01:21.080 People call me that
01:01:21.920 because it's a way
01:01:22.480 of marginalizing me.
01:01:24.440 It's a way
01:01:25.180 of making people think
01:01:26.240 I'm a crackpot,
01:01:27.600 you know,
01:01:27.940 and keeping me silent
01:01:29.380 and censoring me
01:01:32.540 because, you know,
01:01:33.400 he's anti-vax,
01:01:34.280 he's dangerous,
01:01:35.020 don't let people hear him
01:01:35.900 because it will spread
01:01:36.580 like a virus.
01:01:38.540 And so,
01:01:39.240 they keep me off of TV,
01:01:40.520 they keep me off
01:01:41.120 of social media,
01:01:41.980 they keep me out
01:01:42.580 of the newspapers,
01:01:43.260 and it allows everybody,
01:01:45.120 including three members
01:01:46.320 of my family,
01:01:48.100 to say,
01:01:49.100 you know,
01:01:49.580 we don't like what he says
01:01:50.580 because he's anti-vax,
01:01:51.420 but they never heard
01:01:52.100 what I said.
01:01:54.100 Do you guys still do
01:01:55.900 family reunions
01:01:56.640 where everybody gets together?
01:01:57.520 You know what,
01:01:59.300 Patrick,
01:01:59.940 I had 11 brothers
01:02:01.080 and sisters.
01:02:02.760 My parents encouraged us
01:02:05.800 every night
01:02:06.560 to get in arguments,
01:02:08.540 and that's what we did.
01:02:09.680 We always had one discussion
01:02:11.200 at the dinner table,
01:02:13.200 and we,
01:02:13.760 you know,
01:02:14.280 there would be topics,
01:02:15.560 and we would argue about them.
01:02:17.460 Should,
01:02:17.800 should,
01:02:18.160 I remember my father
01:02:19.380 saying,
01:02:20.360 you know,
01:02:20.760 should we get out
01:02:21.460 of Vietnam?
01:02:22.860 Is it good to take LSD?
01:02:25.660 Does God exist?
01:02:27.860 You know,
01:02:28.100 all of these things,
01:02:29.020 they would throw them out,
01:02:30.120 and then we would argue about them,
01:02:31.840 and they would,
01:02:32.580 you know,
01:02:32.880 coach us on our arguments.
01:02:34.160 My grandfather
01:02:35.140 did the same thing
01:02:36.980 to his kids.
01:02:37.860 He'd say,
01:02:38.380 you know,
01:02:38.560 should we be in the,
01:02:40.280 should we join the war in Spain?
01:02:42.940 Is fascism good for Italy?
01:02:45.280 You know,
01:02:45.560 whatever,
01:02:46.960 and make us argue it,
01:02:49.060 and encourage us
01:02:50.300 to take extreme points of view
01:02:52.060 and talk about them.
01:02:53.240 So,
01:02:54.360 like,
01:02:54.640 if somebody in my family
01:02:56.240 argues,
01:02:57.340 against my position
01:02:58.560 is not troublesome to me,
01:03:00.780 and in no way
01:03:02.060 would that ever affect
01:03:03.280 my relationship with them.
01:03:04.900 I understand,
01:03:06.200 you know,
01:03:06.520 we need debate.
01:03:07.660 That's what we ought
01:03:08.260 to be doing.
01:03:09.440 We ought to be debating this stuff.
01:03:11.280 Everybody should,
01:03:12.180 and we should be able
01:03:13.220 to do it without,
01:03:14.720 you know,
01:03:15.800 without vitriol
01:03:17.180 and without anger,
01:03:18.900 and,
01:03:19.220 you know,
01:03:19.660 and that's what you want
01:03:21.160 in a civil society.
01:03:22.500 You want civil debate
01:03:24.440 and respect for other
01:03:25.600 people's positions.
01:03:26.820 I posted something
01:03:27.740 on Twitter earlier,
01:03:29.060 and this is the question
01:03:29.800 I asked.
01:03:30.380 I said,
01:03:31.340 what topic generally
01:03:33.360 creates the most
01:03:35.020 heated debate
01:03:35.920 between you and your family?
01:03:37.360 I'm just curious
01:03:37.900 to know what people
01:03:38.360 are going to say,
01:03:39.000 right?
01:03:39.240 And they said,
01:03:40.360 you know,
01:03:40.980 pro-life,
01:03:42.100 pro-choice,
01:03:43.140 you know,
01:03:43.560 who's the greatest
01:03:44.220 of all time,
01:03:44.840 Michael Jordan
01:03:45.400 or LeBron,
01:03:46.020 some of them
01:03:46.340 were sports,
01:03:47.100 but the most,
01:03:49.020 the most comment here,
01:03:50.900 the one that came up
01:03:51.700 the most was vaccine.
01:03:54.060 Vaccine is the one 0.77
01:03:55.160 that creates
01:03:55.780 the most heated debate
01:03:57.160 amongst people.
01:03:58.140 Why do you think
01:03:58.740 that is?
01:04:01.080 Well,
01:04:01.680 it's clear
01:04:02.520 why it is
01:04:03.600 because we're doing
01:04:04.680 something that we've
01:04:05.480 never done before.
01:04:06.500 We're telling people,
01:04:08.020 you have to take
01:04:09.880 this medication,
01:04:10.680 and we're taking
01:04:11.980 doctors who,
01:04:13.500 you know,
01:04:13.780 have this sacred
01:04:14.680 for 2,000 years
01:04:16.520 since Hippocrates,
01:04:18.960 had a sacred
01:04:20.220 relationship
01:04:21.760 with the patient
01:04:22.860 where that doctor
01:04:24.120 is treating you
01:04:25.380 and owes you
01:04:27.720 his complete allegiance,
01:04:29.100 his silence,
01:04:30.940 his confidentiality,
01:04:32.980 his best judgment
01:04:34.020 about your condition,
01:04:35.340 and is trying
01:04:36.080 to heal you.
01:04:38.420 We've now profoundly
01:04:40.000 and dramatically
01:04:41.040 changed the role
01:04:41.860 of the doctor.
01:04:42.940 The doctor is now
01:04:43.980 the agent
01:04:44.700 of state power
01:04:45.900 and state policy,
01:04:47.580 and he's saying,
01:04:49.140 even though you're
01:04:49.860 a completely healthy kid,
01:04:51.600 I'm going to give you
01:04:52.920 a risky medication
01:04:54.160 so that you can
01:04:55.080 protect somebody else,
01:04:56.640 allegedly,
01:04:58.100 you know,
01:04:58.360 which basically,
01:04:59.260 which, by the way,
01:05:01.260 that ain't true.
01:05:02.280 you're much more likely
01:05:03.320 to get chicken pox
01:05:04.560 from a vaccinated person
01:05:05.940 or measles
01:05:06.720 than you are
01:05:07.300 from an unvaccinated person.
01:05:09.240 Much more likely.
01:05:10.800 You're much more likely
01:05:11.640 to get polio
01:05:12.480 from a vaccinated person
01:05:13.880 than an unvaccinated.
01:05:14.720 70% of the polio
01:05:16.060 in the world
01:05:16.900 is vaccine strain.
01:05:19.060 That means you've got it
01:05:20.140 from a vaccinated person.
01:05:22.380 Oh, that is a mythology
01:05:23.860 that unvaccinated people
01:05:25.400 are dangerous.
01:05:27.140 It's the fact,
01:05:27.760 if you look at the,
01:05:29.020 the manufacturer's insert
01:05:31.460 for chicken pox,
01:05:33.180 it says on the manufacturer's insert,
01:05:35.600 after you receive this vaccine,
01:05:37.220 do not be in proximity
01:05:38.900 of pregnant women
01:05:39.840 or immunocompromised people
01:05:41.240 for six weeks.
01:05:43.440 Nobody ever does that.
01:05:44.680 They go back to school
01:05:45.480 the next day
01:05:46.120 and they spread the chicken pox.
01:05:48.680 And, you know,
01:05:49.400 pertussis,
01:05:50.160 you become an asymptomatic carrier.
01:05:52.500 You're spreading pertussis.
01:05:53.820 Whereas if you actually
01:05:55.280 were unvaccinated
01:05:56.160 and you got pertussis,
01:05:57.180 you wouldn't know it.
01:05:58.420 You get a whooping cough
01:05:59.360 and you'd stay home
01:06:00.220 and you wouldn't be spreading it.
01:06:02.040 When you're given
01:06:02.720 the pertussis vaccine,
01:06:04.000 you got it.
01:06:05.240 Well, you don't know you got it,
01:06:06.500 but you're spreading it
01:06:07.380 to other people.
01:06:08.800 And, you know,
01:06:09.580 and so the vaccines
01:06:10.860 are actually
01:06:11.660 more likely to spread disease
01:06:14.960 than if you're unvaccinated.
01:06:18.300 1961, your uncle,
01:06:20.240 President John F. Kennedy,
01:06:21.400 urged 80 million Americans,
01:06:22.860 including almost 5 million children
01:06:24.500 who had not been vaccinated
01:06:25.640 for polio
01:06:26.260 to receive the Salk vaccine,
01:06:27.740 which he called
01:06:28.280 the miraculous drug.
01:06:30.200 Do you think
01:06:30.940 he would have
01:06:31.440 the same position today
01:06:32.920 as he did in 1961?
01:06:34.840 You know,
01:06:35.480 I don't want to speak
01:06:36.160 to my uncle,
01:06:36.920 for my uncle.
01:06:38.880 Of course,
01:06:39.580 he was for that.
01:06:41.500 And we only had
01:06:42.800 two vaccines then.
01:06:44.400 You know,
01:06:44.680 I had the polio
01:06:45.720 Salk vaccine.
01:06:47.680 We didn't know
01:06:48.260 any of the problems
01:06:49.020 with vaccines then.
01:06:50.280 We didn't have,
01:06:51.220 you know,
01:06:51.420 most of the vaccines today,
01:06:54.460 only it was
01:06:54.980 a healthcare crisis.
01:06:56.360 Most of the vaccines,
01:06:57.360 when they put
01:06:57.760 all these vaccines
01:06:58.580 on a schedule,
01:07:00.140 almost none of them
01:07:01.160 were dangerous diseases,
01:07:02.740 casually contagious diseases
01:07:04.140 that were going to spread.
01:07:06.240 Why do we need
01:07:06.860 a hepatitis B vaccine?
01:07:08.520 Hepatitis B vaccine
01:07:09.700 is given
01:07:10.720 every child
01:07:11.540 the day they're born.
01:07:13.340 And the only way
01:07:14.820 you can get it
01:07:15.560 from your mom
01:07:16.080 if she has it
01:07:16.780 when you're being born,
01:07:17.840 but every mother
01:07:18.620 is tested
01:07:19.260 in every hospital
01:07:20.600 in every state
01:07:21.880 in this country.
01:07:23.980 So that's a very
01:07:24.740 small amount of kids
01:07:26.000 and they,
01:07:26.840 you can give them
01:07:27.460 the vaccine.
01:07:28.900 The only other way
01:07:29.780 you get that
01:07:30.380 hepatitis B
01:07:32.180 is from,
01:07:33.000 is from sex, 0.71
01:07:36.180 you know,
01:07:36.740 and,
01:07:37.400 or from hypodermic needle,
01:07:39.060 unprotected sex 0.89
01:07:39.880 or hypodermic needles.
01:07:40.740 That little child
01:07:41.800 is at zero risk.
01:07:44.020 Why are we giving
01:07:45.000 them that vaccine?
01:07:46.780 The hepatitis B vaccine
01:07:47.880 was manufactured
01:07:48.800 by Merck
01:07:49.520 for male homosexuals
01:07:52.500 who had,
01:07:53.220 who had a plague
01:07:53.980 of hepatitis B
01:07:54.880 because of the kind
01:07:56.120 of sex they were having. 0.56
01:07:58.100 And,
01:07:58.680 and for heroin addicts
01:08:01.320 and,
01:08:02.240 and for prostitutes
01:08:03.680 and that's it.
01:08:04.960 That's why they developed it
01:08:06.100 and guess what happened?
01:08:08.080 None of those people
01:08:09.460 used the vaccine.
01:08:11.420 They couldn't sell
01:08:12.260 any of them.
01:08:13.000 So they went back,
01:08:14.320 Merck went back
01:08:15.020 to CDC
01:08:15.580 and said,
01:08:17.500 we're not selling
01:08:18.100 this product.
01:08:18.920 It's a loss leader
01:08:19.800 for us.
01:08:22.080 Order it,
01:08:22.800 give it to children.
01:08:24.420 And CDC does
01:08:25.460 whatever Merck tells them.
01:08:27.360 They ordered it
01:08:28.240 for every child.
01:08:29.040 Now,
01:08:29.520 the vaccine only
01:08:30.280 lasts two years.
01:08:31.920 So that child
01:08:32.880 is not going to sleep
01:08:33.740 with a prostitute 0.98
01:08:34.680 between the day
01:08:36.580 they're born
01:08:37.040 and the day
01:08:37.480 they're two years old
01:08:38.380 or the day
01:08:39.480 they're 10
01:08:39.860 and they're given
01:08:40.340 five of those vaccines
01:08:41.580 because they only
01:08:42.140 last two years.
01:08:44.260 The only reason
01:08:45.640 for that vaccine,
01:08:46.760 the only reason
01:08:47.800 is to enrich
01:08:48.760 that company
01:08:49.420 and it kills
01:08:50.640 lots and lots
01:08:51.840 and lots of kids
01:08:52.820 every year.
01:08:54.400 That's one.
01:08:56.120 There's many other vaccines
01:08:57.660 that are clearly
01:08:58.580 killing today
01:08:59.860 more children
01:09:00.820 than they're saving.
01:09:01.780 Another one of those
01:09:02.920 would be
01:09:03.580 the rotavirus vaccine
01:09:04.760 which again
01:09:06.080 was got on the
01:09:07.120 you know,
01:09:08.480 did you grow up
01:09:10.040 with a great fear
01:09:11.000 of rotavirus?
01:09:12.580 No.
01:09:13.160 No,
01:09:13.660 of course not.
01:09:14.660 It wasn't a threatening
01:09:15.520 disease in our,
01:09:16.820 you know,
01:09:17.400 our generation
01:09:18.340 or any generation.
01:09:20.080 It's not a threatening,
01:09:21.240 there are more
01:09:22.200 rotavirus cases today
01:09:24.420 which is,
01:09:25.240 you know,
01:09:25.460 a couple hundred
01:09:26.160 deaths a year
01:09:26.980 than there were
01:09:28.640 before the rotavirus vaccine.
01:09:30.380 The rotavirus vaccine
01:09:32.180 contains a port virus,
01:09:37.040 a pig virus
01:09:37.660 because it's made
01:09:38.380 on pig tissue
01:09:39.440 that we know
01:09:41.420 causes cancer
01:09:43.040 and behavioral problems
01:09:44.640 in pigs.
01:09:46.280 Why would we give that,
01:09:47.580 why would we take the risk
01:09:48.700 and give that vaccine
01:09:49.900 to every American child?
01:09:53.120 They have no idea
01:09:53.880 whether it's causing
01:09:54.780 those cancers in kids.
01:09:57.500 And if you go through
01:09:58.660 these vaccines
01:09:59.480 one at a time
01:10:00.540 and you say,
01:10:01.740 do we really need
01:10:02.560 this vaccine?
01:10:03.240 Most of them is,
01:10:04.080 no, we don't.
01:10:05.040 And prior to 85,
01:10:07.040 almost none of them existed.
01:10:08.640 80% of the vaccines
01:10:09.780 we have
01:10:10.460 were after 85
01:10:12.760 and there weren't huge,
01:10:14.140 you know,
01:10:14.940 epidemics
01:10:15.580 of infectious diseases
01:10:16.820 killing Americans 0.99
01:10:17.880 at that time.
01:10:18.740 Even measles.
01:10:20.720 Measles mortalities
01:10:23.040 had 99% disappeared
01:10:28.000 prior to the introduction
01:10:29.680 of the vaccine.
01:10:31.560 In 63,
01:10:32.820 there were only 400 kids
01:10:34.260 who died of measles
01:10:35.200 out of a population
01:10:36.600 of 200 million Americans.
01:10:39.140 They were almost all
01:10:40.440 black children
01:10:41.300 from the Mississippi Delta
01:10:42.860 who were actually dying
01:10:44.260 of malnutrition
01:10:45.060 and this was before
01:10:45.900 the poverty programs.
01:10:48.080 And, you know,
01:10:48.680 the likelihood is
01:10:49.640 measles mortalities
01:10:50.700 would have disappeared
01:10:51.560 altogether.
01:10:52.320 And now measles
01:10:52.940 is going to come back
01:10:53.780 and cause us
01:10:54.360 a lot of problems
01:10:55.220 because the vaccine
01:10:56.680 is doing things.
01:10:59.880 It's forcing measles
01:11:02.080 to older populations
01:11:03.320 and much younger populations
01:11:04.700 who should not
01:11:05.440 be getting measles.
01:11:07.840 There's data saying
01:11:08.840 that measles
01:11:09.400 is back on increase.
01:11:11.140 110,000 people
01:11:12.180 are now dying
01:11:12.700 from measles every year.
01:11:13.520 Matter of fact,
01:11:13.780 that's in the same letter
01:11:14.520 that your family wrote.
01:11:15.700 But, you know,
01:11:16.200 this leads me
01:11:17.040 to something here right now
01:11:18.040 because World Health Organization
01:11:19.360 is...
01:11:19.400 By the way,
01:11:20.240 there's a lot of problems
01:11:21.260 with that data.
01:11:21.960 If you look
01:11:22.340 in the United States,
01:11:24.280 there's zero measles deaths.
01:11:26.320 Zero.
01:11:27.040 And the people
01:11:27.720 who are now getting measles
01:11:29.320 are older people.
01:11:31.200 The last epidemic
01:11:33.120 in California
01:11:33.840 is 79% of the people
01:11:35.340 who got measles
01:11:35.880 were adults.
01:11:37.100 And you're not...
01:11:38.420 Adults are not supposed 1.00
01:11:39.240 to get measles.
01:11:41.000 World Health Organization
01:11:42.020 and little babies
01:11:43.500 are now getting it
01:11:44.360 when they're, you know,
01:11:45.280 two weeks old.
01:11:46.120 And they used
01:11:46.640 to have maternal immunity,
01:11:47.840 but the vaccine
01:11:48.400 doesn't give you that.
01:11:49.360 And they're too young
01:11:50.260 to get the vaccine.
01:11:52.140 A lot of those kids
01:11:53.020 are going to end up dying.
01:11:55.020 The measles...
01:11:56.700 And the, you know,
01:11:57.340 the World Health data,
01:11:58.720 which you just read,
01:12:00.760 is there's a lot of scams
01:12:02.720 in collecting that data.
01:12:04.740 And the kids
01:12:05.540 who die of measles today
01:12:07.760 are severely malnourished kids
01:12:11.420 in Africa.
01:12:12.200 And, you know,
01:12:13.940 the problem is,
01:12:15.900 is nourishment.
01:12:17.600 Measles disappeared
01:12:18.360 in this country
01:12:19.080 when we started
01:12:20.320 having good sanitation
01:12:21.620 and good nutrition.
01:12:23.380 And, you know,
01:12:23.920 again,
01:12:24.260 that's not me saying it.
01:12:26.320 The CDC did a major study
01:12:28.480 on this mythology
01:12:31.060 that vaccines eradicated
01:12:33.460 all these mortalities
01:12:34.740 from infectious diseases.
01:12:37.040 Their conclusion from that,
01:12:38.420 which is on my Instagram,
01:12:39.440 anybody can read their study
01:12:41.140 with a quote
01:12:42.100 from Johns Hopkins and CDC,
01:12:45.340 thus vaccination
01:12:46.460 had almost nothing to do
01:12:48.460 with the disappearance
01:12:49.720 of disease mortalities
01:12:52.060 in the first half
01:12:53.740 of the 20th century.
01:12:55.520 Vaccines didn't do it.
01:12:56.840 It was nutrition.
01:12:58.580 It was sanitation.
01:12:59.600 It was good food,
01:13:01.120 electric refrigeration,
01:13:03.400 chlorinated water,
01:13:04.680 and electricity.
01:13:08.000 And that's what
01:13:08.820 eradicated disease.
01:13:10.300 That's why they still
01:13:11.080 have disease in Africa.
01:13:13.040 Now, you see
01:13:14.000 World Health Organization
01:13:15.340 also says that
01:13:16.160 because of vaccines,
01:13:17.100 it prevents 6 million
01:13:17.940 deaths per year.
01:13:18.880 So if they...
01:13:19.680 Yeah, I mean,
01:13:20.240 that's a...
01:13:22.160 There's no...
01:13:25.600 There's really no good way
01:13:27.740 to ascertain
01:13:31.340 or to judge that data.
01:13:32.760 You know, there's not...
01:13:35.300 They can't point
01:13:36.660 to a country, for example.
01:13:38.380 They'll say the DPT vaccine
01:13:40.480 saves millions of lives
01:13:42.780 and it is their most popular vaccine.
01:13:45.400 It's the most popular vaccine
01:13:46.580 in the world.
01:13:47.040 They're giving to every kid in Africa
01:13:48.560 and they gauge
01:13:50.260 national compliance
01:13:52.300 with vaccine mandates
01:13:56.600 by that vaccine.
01:13:58.720 A World Health Organization
01:14:00.180 funds most of the ministries
01:14:02.520 of health
01:14:03.000 for all these African countries
01:14:04.440 and it funds
01:14:05.280 their HIV programs.
01:14:06.800 So those countries
01:14:07.500 are very dependent
01:14:08.280 on World Health Organization
01:14:09.540 and World Health Organization
01:14:10.960 has a dictatorial control
01:14:12.560 over those countries.
01:14:14.260 It can tell them,
01:14:15.180 you must take this vaccine
01:14:16.340 and we're not going
01:14:16.920 to give you AIDS money.
01:14:19.300 And so they do it.
01:14:20.220 So they all take
01:14:20.880 the DPT vaccine
01:14:21.860 and nobody's ever
01:14:23.260 really looked
01:14:24.280 to see whether
01:14:25.760 the DPT vaccine
01:14:26.780 is actually saving lives.
01:14:28.540 Oh, in 2017,
01:14:31.400 the Danish government
01:14:32.400 got the best scientists
01:14:34.560 in the world
01:14:34.900 and one of the world's
01:14:36.380 biggest vaccine companies,
01:14:37.740 Staten Sarum Institute,
01:14:40.220 put together a study.
01:14:41.560 They brought together
01:14:42.320 the best scientists
01:14:43.140 in the world
01:14:43.660 and they looked at
01:14:45.220 populations
01:14:46.960 in the nation
01:14:47.760 of Guinea-Bissau
01:14:48.600 where half the kids
01:14:49.720 were vaccinated
01:14:50.360 between two and five months
01:14:51.960 of age
01:14:52.260 and half weren't.
01:14:53.300 So they had a perfect
01:14:54.180 natural experiment,
01:14:56.100 randomized populations,
01:14:57.560 half unvaccinated,
01:14:59.900 half vaccinated
01:15:00.660 and they looked
01:15:01.320 at the health impacts
01:15:02.180 and what they found
01:15:02.920 when they have
01:15:04.380 30 years of data.
01:15:07.020 They found that
01:15:08.000 the vaccine,
01:15:09.060 you were 10 times
01:15:10.760 more likely to die
01:15:11.920 if you got the vaccine
01:15:13.420 than if you didn't.
01:15:15.860 Oh, WHO,
01:15:18.340 the authors of that study
01:15:21.060 have been screaming
01:15:23.260 at the rooftops
01:15:24.220 at WHO,
01:15:24.900 you got to stop
01:15:27.060 using this vaccine,
01:15:28.480 you got to reassess this
01:15:29.820 and WHO is still
01:15:31.200 going around
01:15:31.700 claiming it saves lives
01:15:32.880 but it's a lie.
01:15:34.480 It's a provable lie.
01:15:37.140 That study,
01:15:38.440 by the way,
01:15:38.960 any of your listeners
01:15:39.980 can look it up
01:15:40.920 and I encourage you
01:15:41.660 to do so.
01:15:43.120 It's called
01:15:43.820 Morgensen,
01:15:44.800 M-O-R-G-E-N-S-E-N 1.00
01:15:47.840 et al,
01:15:48.980 in other words,
01:15:49.820 and the team,
01:15:50.940 2017
01:15:52.760 and the journal
01:15:54.020 is called
01:15:54.460 eBioPharma
01:15:55.600 and, you know,
01:15:57.560 so that,
01:15:58.440 the idea that
01:15:59.440 they're saving
01:16:00.060 six million lives
01:16:01.000 a year,
01:16:01.520 there's no data
01:16:02.200 that supports that.
01:16:04.080 Which one of those
01:16:04.900 organizations
01:16:05.480 do you give a,
01:16:06.900 do you give a lot
01:16:08.200 of credibility to?
01:16:09.160 Well,
01:16:09.380 here's the problem.
01:16:11.620 You know,
01:16:12.200 I'm not
01:16:12.740 against the agencies.
01:16:14.880 I, you know,
01:16:15.540 I'm,
01:16:16.640 my whole life
01:16:17.740 has been trying
01:16:18.300 to, you know,
01:16:19.260 to build agencies
01:16:20.280 and,
01:16:20.900 and,
01:16:21.360 and assure
01:16:23.320 integrity in them,
01:16:24.380 but all of those
01:16:26.260 agencies are
01:16:27.420 what we call
01:16:28.040 captive agencies.
01:16:28.980 They are run
01:16:29.980 by the industry.
01:16:31.400 WHO gets
01:16:32.620 half of its budget
01:16:33.900 from pharmaceutical
01:16:35.740 companies
01:16:36.420 and 10%
01:16:37.180 of its budget
01:16:37.760 from Bill Gates.
01:16:39.500 The European 0.80
01:16:40.800 Medical Agency
01:16:41.740 gets half of its budget
01:16:42.980 from pharmaceutical
01:16:43.740 companies.
01:16:44.660 The FDA
01:16:45.220 gets half of its budget
01:16:46.580 from pharmaceutical
01:16:47.340 companies.
01:16:48.200 The CDC
01:16:48.800 spends a 45%
01:16:52.660 of its budget
01:16:53.400 on vaccines.
01:16:56.620 And so,
01:16:57.560 you know,
01:16:58.000 if we shouldn't
01:16:59.440 have that situation,
01:17:00.720 those companies
01:17:01.300 should not be taking
01:17:02.220 any money
01:17:03.080 from the industries
01:17:04.740 they're supposed
01:17:05.240 to regulate.
01:17:06.520 And because of that,
01:17:08.020 they are owned
01:17:08.580 by those industries
01:17:09.440 and we're not getting
01:17:10.180 good science
01:17:10.880 and we're not getting
01:17:11.460 good policy
01:17:12.180 and we're not getting
01:17:12.840 good regulation.
01:17:14.640 Robert,
01:17:15.380 you know,
01:17:16.100 the topic of autism
01:17:17.240 obviously has a lot
01:17:18.060 to do with vaccine
01:17:18.740 and it's part
01:17:19.660 of this entire
01:17:20.160 conversation
01:17:20.680 that we're having.
01:17:21.880 Have scientists
01:17:23.320 and proper research
01:17:24.520 been able to prove
01:17:25.320 what causes autism?
01:17:28.320 Well,
01:17:29.440 listen,
01:17:30.960 the answer to that
01:17:34.580 is that
01:17:36.540 those studies
01:17:38.040 have not
01:17:38.860 systematically been done.
01:17:41.040 There are many,
01:17:41.860 many studies
01:17:42.540 studies that link
01:17:43.240 autism to vaccines.
01:17:45.940 We have listed
01:17:47.600 on our website
01:17:49.500 several hundred studies
01:17:52.060 saying,
01:17:53.580 suggesting in various ways
01:17:55.960 that not only
01:17:58.180 do vaccines
01:17:59.220 cause autism
01:17:59.960 but actually
01:18:00.900 looking at
01:18:01.900 the specific
01:18:02.460 mechanisms
01:18:03.260 by which
01:18:04.080 they cause autism.
01:18:05.100 So I don't think
01:18:06.080 there's any
01:18:06.840 scientific question
01:18:08.900 that vaccines
01:18:09.680 cause autism.
01:18:10.480 if you actually
01:18:11.180 read the science,
01:18:13.020 the problem
01:18:13.500 is CDC
01:18:14.520 has
01:18:15.840 ginned up
01:18:20.240 17 studies.
01:18:23.060 All of those studies
01:18:24.360 have flaws
01:18:26.080 and those studies
01:18:27.200 are all epidemiological
01:18:28.700 studies,
01:18:29.380 meaning their populations
01:18:30.340 and none of them
01:18:30.960 are animal studies,
01:18:32.080 none of them
01:18:32.400 are pharmacological studies,
01:18:33.900 none of them
01:18:34.240 are toxicity studies.
01:18:35.460 and those studies
01:18:37.940 are,
01:18:39.540 you know,
01:18:39.740 they looked at
01:18:40.340 big populations
01:18:41.200 and they said
01:18:41.900 we couldn't find
01:18:43.480 a link here
01:18:44.360 but
01:18:44.760 the problem is
01:18:46.480 they were all done
01:18:47.220 by pharmaceutical
01:18:48.020 industry scientists,
01:18:49.380 none of them did
01:18:50.400 and they all
01:18:51.880 either look at
01:18:53.080 one vaccine,
01:18:54.000 the MMR,
01:18:54.760 which is given
01:18:55.340 when the children
01:18:56.100 are quite old
01:18:56.920 and then two
01:18:59.340 find aerosol.
01:19:01.540 So that's the only
01:19:02.400 vaccine,
01:19:03.060 one vaccine
01:19:03.620 has ever been studied.
01:19:04.500 And it's not
01:19:06.160 the biggest suspect.
01:19:07.620 So the suspects
01:19:08.760 are the five vaccines
01:19:10.580 that are given
01:19:11.200 during the first
01:19:12.700 five months of life.
01:19:14.760 None of them
01:19:15.240 have ever been studied.
01:19:16.200 And the Institute
01:19:16.920 of Medicine,
01:19:17.880 which is the ultimate
01:19:18.960 arbiter of vaccine science,
01:19:20.900 you don't have to listen
01:19:21.780 to Bobby Kennedy.
01:19:23.740 The Institute of Medicine
01:19:24.920 looks over the shoulder
01:19:28.180 of the CDC
01:19:28.940 and HHS
01:19:30.080 and tells them
01:19:31.640 whether they actually
01:19:33.140 have done the studies
01:19:34.120 that are necessary.
01:19:36.340 The IOM looked
01:19:37.300 at all the vaccine
01:19:38.340 studies that have been
01:19:39.300 done in 91,
01:19:41.000 in 94,
01:19:42.220 in 2011,
01:19:43.380 and in 2014.
01:19:44.780 And what they said
01:19:45.660 in every one
01:19:46.540 of those findings
01:19:48.060 is they've said,
01:19:50.240 CDC has never done
01:19:51.520 the studies
01:19:52.060 that it needs to do.
01:19:53.060 And they've scolded,
01:19:54.260 they've chided,
01:19:55.120 they've begged,
01:19:55.860 they've pleaded,
01:19:56.740 and CDC has refused
01:19:58.100 to do those studies.
01:19:59.920 Oh, what I'm saying,
01:20:01.000 CDC does not have
01:20:02.580 those studies
01:20:03.300 that show the link.
01:20:04.960 Independent scientists
01:20:06.140 have done those studies.
01:20:07.560 If you want to see them,
01:20:08.960 come to our website,
01:20:10.240 Children's Health Defense,
01:20:11.380 and we have them
01:20:11.960 outlined there.
01:20:12.680 And you can read
01:20:13.380 the abstracts,
01:20:14.300 you can read
01:20:14.740 the whole study,
01:20:16.380 you can make up
01:20:16.980 your own mind.
01:20:17.780 But I've made up mine,
01:20:19.120 and it's very,
01:20:20.140 very clear.
01:20:21.580 What are...
01:20:22.140 There's a terrific book
01:20:23.440 by J.B. Hanley
01:20:25.520 called
01:20:25.820 How to End
01:20:26.440 the Autism Epidemic, 0.77
01:20:27.540 which is a really good
01:20:28.680 summary of the current science.
01:20:32.600 So what are pro-vaccine folks
01:20:35.280 saying causes autism?
01:20:36.480 What are anti-vaccine folks
01:20:38.420 saying causes autism?
01:20:39.700 Well, the pro-vaccine folks 0.94
01:20:41.580 are in a bad position.
01:20:44.580 Because what they have to say
01:20:46.940 is they can't really...
01:20:49.080 What they'll say is,
01:20:52.080 well, CDC has these studies
01:20:54.820 that show it doesn't
01:20:55.680 cause autism.
01:20:56.340 And that's the only studies
01:20:57.340 they look at.
01:20:57.940 They won't look at the
01:20:58.680 hundreds of studies
01:20:59.500 that show it does.
01:21:00.420 They just look at those
01:21:01.360 17 studies.
01:21:03.220 The Institute of Medicine
01:21:04.160 has said those studies
01:21:05.520 are no good.
01:21:07.880 So what they do is
01:21:09.760 they take the tact
01:21:11.060 of saying something
01:21:12.340 that's so absurd
01:21:13.580 that it's laughable.
01:21:15.840 They say there is
01:21:16.900 no autism epidemic.
01:21:19.400 That people are just
01:21:20.480 noticing autism more.
01:21:24.060 And, you know,
01:21:25.680 anybody...
01:21:26.440 I mean, I...
01:21:27.120 Listen, I grew up,
01:21:28.320 as I said,
01:21:28.900 on the spirit tip
01:21:29.700 of, you know,
01:21:31.280 intellectual disabilities.
01:21:32.640 I was around...
01:21:33.540 You know, I was working
01:21:34.580 in Special Olympics
01:21:35.220 when I was a kid.
01:21:37.360 We never saw kids
01:21:38.960 that were...
01:21:39.960 that had actually
01:21:40.660 full-blown autism
01:21:41.600 like what you see today.
01:21:42.780 But here's the real...
01:21:44.480 the real rebuttal
01:21:46.860 to that claim
01:21:48.220 that autism...
01:21:49.060 we're just doing
01:21:49.720 better diagnoses today.
01:21:52.140 If that were true,
01:21:55.000 then where are all
01:21:56.680 the 66-year-old men
01:21:58.280 with full-blown autism
01:22:00.380 in my entire life,
01:22:02.840 having worked
01:22:03.900 in Waseya,
01:22:04.640 I'm for the retarded,
01:22:05.800 having worked
01:22:07.060 in Special Olympics,
01:22:07.860 I have never seen
01:22:09.220 somebody my age
01:22:10.800 with full-blown autism.
01:22:12.320 A man walking
01:22:14.600 in the mall
01:22:15.320 wearing diapers,
01:22:17.900 wearing a helmet,
01:22:19.180 headbanging,
01:22:20.340 non-verbal,
01:22:21.540 non-toilet train,
01:22:23.360 stimming,
01:22:24.860 toe walking.
01:22:26.380 You don't see it.
01:22:27.540 I've never seen it
01:22:28.820 in my life.
01:22:30.440 And yet,
01:22:31.340 you know,
01:22:31.840 it's one in 34 kids
01:22:33.460 in my children's generation,
01:22:36.740 in the vaccine generation.
01:22:38.100 And so the question is,
01:22:40.160 you cannot credibly say
01:22:41.880 it's always been with us
01:22:43.400 because if it's always
01:22:44.400 been with us,
01:22:45.100 it would still be here
01:22:46.380 in my generation.
01:22:48.460 And they've been saying
01:22:49.860 that since 2004.
01:22:54.040 And yet,
01:22:54.640 even since 2004,
01:22:57.160 it's gone up
01:22:58.160 600 or 700 percent.
01:23:00.100 So it's still climbing.
01:23:01.880 And so it's completely
01:23:03.220 incredible.
01:23:04.300 And what they really
01:23:05.160 try to do is avoid
01:23:06.200 having the conversation.
01:23:08.420 Nobody's going to have
01:23:09.280 this debate with me.
01:23:10.880 Nobody's going to sit down
01:23:12.200 and argue to my face.
01:23:13.720 Also, there's a lot of science.
01:23:16.260 UC Davis did a study.
01:23:17.860 There's dozens of studies
01:23:19.420 that say,
01:23:20.000 no,
01:23:20.740 the autism epidemic
01:23:21.620 is real.
01:23:23.160 It's happening.
01:23:24.100 It's affecting kids.
01:23:25.420 It's not affecting adults.
01:23:27.220 And, you know,
01:23:28.160 we don't know
01:23:28.700 where it's coming from.
01:23:30.400 If a debate
01:23:31.380 could be set up,
01:23:32.380 who'd be the main
01:23:33.160 prominent voice
01:23:33.980 for you to debate against?
01:23:35.480 Well, the best people
01:23:36.360 for me to debate
01:23:37.420 would be Fauci.
01:23:39.240 But, you know,
01:23:41.300 if Fauci can say
01:23:42.160 I'm a government official,
01:23:43.140 I'm not going to
01:23:43.820 lower myself
01:23:44.600 into the debate to you.
01:23:46.160 There's a lot of academics,
01:23:48.280 people like Ian Lipkin
01:23:50.320 at Columbia,
01:23:51.820 Peter Hotez
01:23:53.120 at Baylor University
01:23:54.880 in Texas,
01:23:55.800 and these are people
01:23:56.720 who have thrust themselves
01:23:58.120 to the forefront
01:23:59.840 of defending vaccines.
01:24:01.720 Paul Offit,
01:24:03.100 Children's Hospital
01:24:04.280 of Philadelphia.
01:24:05.640 These are vaccine developers.
01:24:07.340 There are people
01:24:08.200 who are at the forefront.
01:24:09.380 There are people
01:24:09.900 who have deliberately
01:24:11.060 they're the ones
01:24:12.220 who go on TV,
01:24:13.400 go on CNN,
01:24:14.280 go on Fox,
01:24:15.060 go on, you know,
01:24:16.180 write articles
01:24:17.160 from the New York Times,
01:24:19.160 have thrust themselves
01:24:20.060 to the forefront of this.
01:24:21.700 None of them
01:24:22.300 will debate me.
01:24:23.620 They're all terrified.
01:24:25.340 They will not.
01:24:25.980 And it's not because
01:24:26.740 I'm a great debater.
01:24:28.640 It's because they know
01:24:29.800 that the science
01:24:30.480 speaks for itself
01:24:31.240 and I do know the science
01:24:32.700 and I know it
01:24:33.400 backward and forward.
01:24:34.400 I know it in many cases
01:24:35.660 better than they do
01:24:36.520 because I actually
01:24:37.500 am looking at it critically.
01:24:39.960 And I've seen the studies
01:24:41.080 they cite
01:24:41.740 and I know
01:24:42.500 what the flaws are in them
01:24:43.680 and they have not,
01:24:45.460 you know,
01:24:45.680 I've sent them
01:24:46.540 to the studies I cite
01:24:47.580 but I know
01:24:48.040 they don't read them
01:24:48.700 because they send me
01:24:49.480 back nonsense
01:24:50.440 or nothing at all.
01:24:52.540 And none of them
01:24:53.380 will debate me.
01:24:54.120 And in fact,
01:24:55.500 if anybody else
01:24:56.480 tries to debate me,
01:24:57.640 like for example,
01:24:59.480 several months ago,
01:25:00.680 the Connecticut
01:25:01.880 State Legislature
01:25:02.940 was considering
01:25:04.700 a bill
01:25:05.520 to repeal
01:25:06.480 vaccine exemptions
01:25:07.580 and they asked
01:25:09.720 me to come
01:25:10.380 to Connecticut
01:25:11.220 and debate,
01:25:12.620 do a debate.
01:25:13.580 And then they
01:25:14.100 tried to stack
01:25:14.940 the debate against me
01:25:15.920 so they put
01:25:16.560 five Yale
01:25:17.780 virologists
01:25:19.680 and immunologists
01:25:20.600 to come to that debate
01:25:21.880 and I was going
01:25:22.740 to have eight minutes
01:25:23.520 and each one of them
01:25:24.440 were going to have
01:25:24.980 eight minutes.
01:25:26.560 It was stacked against me
01:25:27.660 but I was okay
01:25:29.040 with those odds
01:25:29.860 because I know
01:25:30.360 I'm going to win
01:25:30.800 that debate anyway.
01:25:32.620 I flew across
01:25:33.620 the country
01:25:34.140 and got there
01:25:35.800 and nobody showed up.
01:25:37.240 And that's happened
01:25:37.960 to me dozens of times
01:25:39.500 where people agree
01:25:40.540 to debate me
01:25:41.200 but then they get
01:25:41.920 the memo.
01:25:42.700 People call them,
01:25:43.900 people contact them
01:25:44.900 and say,
01:25:45.400 you cannot debate him.
01:25:47.460 Nobody will debate me.
01:25:49.220 Well, if we can
01:25:49.880 coordinate it,
01:25:50.400 you're open to it.
01:25:51.440 Yes, if we...
01:25:51.780 Oh, yeah,
01:25:52.280 in a minute,
01:25:53.020 I'll debate it
01:25:53.600 anybody, anytime.
01:25:55.080 Okay, good.
01:25:55.660 On our end.
01:25:57.380 We'll see what we can do
01:25:58.180 if we can get creative there.
01:25:59.360 By the way,
01:25:59.760 just for education purposes,
01:26:01.220 what's the difference
01:26:01.940 between the 1986 Act
01:26:04.440 when they came out
01:26:05.040 with the National Childhood
01:26:06.080 Vaccine Injury Act
01:26:07.200 versus the 2011 Brusevitz
01:26:09.400 versus Wyatt?
01:26:12.520 The Brusevitz case
01:26:14.300 was interpreting the Act.
01:26:16.600 So what happened
01:26:18.340 is the Act said
01:26:19.700 you have to go...
01:26:21.700 The Act actually,
01:26:23.640 the Brusevitz case
01:26:24.700 really killed us
01:26:25.700 and killed people
01:26:26.540 for a vaccine engine
01:26:27.420 were 5,400 people
01:26:30.980 who said,
01:26:31.860 my kid got autism
01:26:32.760 from a vaccine
01:26:33.500 and they all descended
01:26:34.580 on the vaccine court
01:26:35.700 at once.
01:26:36.960 You know,
01:26:37.280 the Act,
01:26:38.340 the 1986 Act
01:26:39.980 set up
01:26:40.620 a vaccine court
01:26:42.660 where you're not
01:26:44.540 suing the company
01:26:45.380 that injured you.
01:26:46.400 You're suing...
01:26:47.180 You're petitioning
01:26:48.140 the United States
01:26:48.860 government
01:26:49.320 for redress
01:26:52.120 because the Vaccine Act
01:26:54.340 recognized vaccines
01:26:56.280 cannot be safely made.
01:26:57.560 They're unavoidably unsafe.
01:26:59.280 That's the quote.
01:27:01.100 And that we have to...
01:27:03.060 Therefore,
01:27:03.960 people who get injured
01:27:05.360 by vaccines,
01:27:06.480 by mandatory vaccines,
01:27:07.780 are making a sacrifice
01:27:10.900 for the nation.
01:27:11.760 and they should be
01:27:13.500 fairly compensated.
01:27:15.480 And so they set up
01:27:16.400 a vaccine court
01:27:17.320 that was supposed
01:27:18.300 to instantly pay them.
01:27:21.920 And the vaccine court
01:27:23.300 got overwhelmed.
01:27:24.720 It immediately got
01:27:25.780 5,400 people
01:27:27.020 coming in
01:27:27.540 and saying,
01:27:28.040 my child got autism
01:27:29.080 from the vaccine.
01:27:30.880 It would have bankrupted
01:27:31.860 the whole program
01:27:32.660 overnight.
01:27:33.380 So they had to get rid
01:27:34.320 of those cases.
01:27:35.380 And the government
01:27:36.000 fought them
01:27:36.600 and fought them
01:27:37.080 and fought them
01:27:37.580 for years.
01:27:37.980 It finally ended up
01:27:39.100 in the Supreme Court.
01:27:41.120 And the Supreme Court,
01:27:42.560 the way the act
01:27:43.580 was set up
01:27:44.240 is that you could
01:27:45.140 go to the vaccine court
01:27:46.140 and get your compensation.
01:27:47.260 But if you didn't
01:27:48.120 like the settlement,
01:27:50.340 you could withdraw
01:27:51.120 and you could go
01:27:51.660 to a regular court.
01:27:53.380 And so,
01:27:54.560 you know,
01:27:54.800 we weren't completely
01:27:55.600 foreclosed.
01:27:56.620 People who were injured
01:27:57.480 could still get redressed.
01:27:59.800 The Supreme Court
01:28:00.660 gave us this wacky decision
01:28:02.760 that said that
01:28:04.760 if you do leave
01:28:06.000 the vaccine court
01:28:06.900 and go to a regular court,
01:28:07.980 they cannot give you,
01:28:09.680 they cannot give you
01:28:11.160 an award for product liability.
01:28:14.000 In other words,
01:28:15.040 you can't sue them
01:28:15.940 like you can sue anybody else.
01:28:17.920 You know,
01:28:18.260 your product was dangerous.
01:28:20.580 I took it.
01:28:21.300 I got injured.
01:28:22.160 Give me the money.
01:28:23.320 You know,
01:28:23.600 give me redress.
01:28:24.500 Make me whole.
01:28:26.220 You can't do that.
01:28:27.620 So you can sue them
01:28:28.620 for fraud,
01:28:30.340 but you cannot sue them
01:28:32.060 for product liability.
01:28:33.060 So it basically
01:28:33.700 threw us out of court.
01:28:35.020 We have no jury trial,
01:28:36.940 you know,
01:28:37.160 and no trial.
01:28:38.600 Most people are injured.
01:28:40.400 The vaccine court
01:28:41.080 won't even hear their cases.
01:28:43.400 That's an interesting story.
01:28:44.660 It's the story
01:28:45.200 of the little girl,
01:28:47.300 Hannah, right?
01:28:47.800 I think it's a five-year-old.
01:28:50.440 Hannah was one of the stories
01:28:51.840 that was brought up.
01:28:53.420 Hannah Pauling
01:28:54.320 was an eight-year-old
01:28:55.600 who got autism
01:28:57.420 from a vaccine,
01:28:58.280 and the problem was
01:29:00.580 that her father
01:29:05.400 was a neurologist,
01:29:07.460 a famous neurologist
01:29:08.560 from Johns Hopkins,
01:29:10.200 and her mother 0.91
01:29:11.780 was a nurse
01:29:13.240 and a lawyer,
01:29:14.600 and this girl
01:29:15.700 was a very gifted girl.
01:29:18.700 She exceeded
01:29:19.340 all her milestones
01:29:20.240 when she was right,
01:29:21.180 and they had lots
01:29:22.180 of video
01:29:22.760 right up to the day
01:29:25.060 that she took
01:29:25.620 those vaccines.
01:29:27.400 She got it
01:29:27.820 at her 36-month
01:29:29.360 wellness visit.
01:29:31.340 We got a battery
01:29:32.000 of vaccines,
01:29:33.220 and she launched 0.99
01:29:34.600 her brain.
01:29:36.180 She went,
01:29:36.700 you know,
01:29:36.880 the lights went off
01:29:37.680 on her.
01:29:38.180 They had before
01:29:38.920 and after,
01:29:39.680 and they had
01:29:40.300 professional doctors
01:29:41.700 who had observed
01:29:42.540 everything that happened,
01:29:43.600 and they had
01:29:47.080 to get rid of it,
01:29:47.660 and that was
01:29:48.180 one of the bellwether cases.
01:29:50.000 So if she,
01:29:51.520 the way that they
01:29:52.280 decided this case
01:29:53.460 and these cases,
01:29:55.080 50 or 100 cases
01:29:56.160 in the vaccine court,
01:29:56.980 is they said,
01:29:58.720 we're not going to try them all.
01:29:59.880 We'll try six of them,
01:30:01.940 and if any of those six
01:30:03.700 wins,
01:30:05.240 then we'll try them all.
01:30:07.100 And so they really
01:30:08.100 were under pressure
01:30:08.820 to get rid of
01:30:09.960 all six of those.
01:30:11.980 And unfortunately for them,
01:30:13.420 Hannah Pauling's case
01:30:14.460 was won,
01:30:15.360 and there was no way
01:30:16.200 for them to win it.
01:30:17.240 So what they did was
01:30:18.480 they secretly
01:30:19.140 went into a back room,
01:30:21.540 paid $20 million
01:30:22.620 to her family,
01:30:24.640 and said,
01:30:25.360 keep your mouth shut. 0.65
01:30:26.380 We're going to seal this case.
01:30:27.780 We're going to drop it
01:30:28.520 from the bellwether cases
01:30:29.620 and substitute another one.
01:30:32.040 And that's how
01:30:32.740 they defrauded
01:30:33.420 all those people
01:30:34.280 out of their,
01:30:35.100 you know,
01:30:35.620 compensation and vaccine court.
01:30:37.460 Is that proven?
01:30:38.660 The parents,
01:30:39.320 oh yeah,
01:30:39.760 the parents are,
01:30:41.080 you know,
01:30:41.320 were very,
01:30:42.120 very troubled,
01:30:42.760 but they kind of
01:30:43.560 had to do
01:30:43.980 what was right
01:30:44.540 for their daughter
01:30:45.160 and their daughter
01:30:46.160 really needed
01:30:46.960 lifetime care.
01:30:48.920 And the parents
01:30:49.800 immediately took the deal
01:30:51.100 but then immediately
01:30:52.080 petitioned to the court
01:30:53.820 for a full disclosure.
01:30:58.280 They filed a motion
01:30:59.400 for full transparency
01:31:01.420 of that
01:31:02.280 because they thought
01:31:03.220 they'd get a chance
01:31:04.120 to,
01:31:05.500 even if they signed
01:31:06.340 the deal
01:31:06.680 and it got unsealed
01:31:07.520 and they made the agreement
01:31:08.460 they wouldn't talk about it,
01:31:09.960 that the court
01:31:10.840 wouldn't allow that.
01:31:13.100 In the end,
01:31:13.880 the court refused
01:31:14.800 to hear their petition
01:31:16.260 and they were stuck
01:31:17.600 keeping their mouths
01:31:18.380 shut for years.
01:31:19.320 And then it came out
01:31:20.440 and, you know,
01:31:21.260 I'm friends
01:31:23.800 and allies
01:31:24.620 with her parents
01:31:25.840 and her parents
01:31:26.480 have spent their lives,
01:31:27.840 you know,
01:31:28.260 fighting for these
01:31:28.960 other children.
01:31:29.620 Very interesting.
01:31:32.820 I didn't know
01:31:33.760 about the $20 million
01:31:34.560 and respect to the family
01:31:37.100 to wanting to make it public
01:31:38.160 so everybody knew.
01:31:39.260 By the way,
01:31:39.740 Bill Gates,
01:31:40.400 you know,
01:31:40.780 you had a post
01:31:42.020 that you put on Instagram.
01:31:43.960 It got a lot of comments.
01:31:45.620 There were a lot of things
01:31:46.580 you said about him.
01:31:47.320 When I bring up Bill Gates
01:31:48.700 in a lot of conversations,
01:31:50.600 most people will say,
01:31:53.580 good man,
01:31:54.380 doing good things.
01:31:55.460 Most of them will bring up
01:31:56.500 the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation
01:31:57.880 and, you know,
01:31:59.160 you hear Melinda Gates
01:32:00.140 talking about the fact
01:32:01.160 that we're getting closer
01:32:02.240 to wiping several deadly diseases
01:32:04.940 off the face of the planet,
01:32:06.060 but we couldn't,
01:32:07.520 we could easily blow it.
01:32:08.680 I think in an article
01:32:09.420 she talked about
01:32:10.120 how when they started
01:32:10.880 and in 2000
01:32:11.620 they put nearly $50 billion
01:32:12.940 of money into it
01:32:14.060 and polio has gone
01:32:15.740 from 350,000 cases
01:32:17.400 in ADA
01:32:17.860 to 2017
01:32:18.740 having only 22
01:32:19.800 and 2018
01:32:21.040 being only 29.
01:32:22.860 What is your opinion
01:32:24.020 of the global vaccine action plan
01:32:25.760 that Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
01:32:27.660 is financially backing
01:32:29.320 and again,
01:32:30.540 I don't want to read
01:32:31.180 the entire Instagram post,
01:32:32.320 but what is your thoughts
01:32:33.340 and opinions
01:32:33.840 on Bill and Melinda Gates?
01:32:35.140 Well, I mean,
01:32:35.920 you know,
01:32:36.900 the devil is in the details
01:32:39.100 and as it turns out
01:32:42.060 that polio vaccine,
01:32:43.360 which they said
01:32:44.500 was going to eradicate polio
01:32:45.780 has actually caused
01:32:47.080 polio epidemics
01:32:47.960 around the world
01:32:48.680 in places where
01:32:49.780 they haven't seen polio
01:32:50.940 in decades
01:32:51.580 like the Philippines,
01:32:52.700 like the Congo,
01:32:53.280 like Afghanistan 0.93
01:32:54.400 and in India
01:32:56.320 around 490,000 kids
01:33:00.880 have been paralyzed.
01:33:02.120 Oh, you know,
01:33:02.680 for them to say
01:33:03.440 that, you know,
01:33:04.680 we're almost there
01:33:05.720 and it's,
01:33:07.240 I'm sure what Bill
01:33:08.840 and Melinda Gates
01:33:09.760 will try to do
01:33:10.500 at one point
01:33:11.180 is to blame it
01:33:12.480 on anti-vaxxers,
01:33:13.620 but even WHO admits
01:33:16.180 that 70% of the polio
01:33:18.640 today on Earth
01:33:19.940 is coming from
01:33:20.820 Gates' vaccine.
01:33:23.220 It was a bad idea.
01:33:25.260 The vaccine
01:33:25.780 is badly flawed
01:33:27.400 and the way
01:33:29.460 that they used it
01:33:30.520 was hair brained.
01:33:33.100 You know,
01:33:33.240 they're giving kids
01:33:34.260 50 polio inoculations
01:33:36.860 or immunizations
01:33:39.640 before age five
01:33:41.420 and those kids
01:33:43.220 are,
01:33:44.880 you know,
01:33:45.100 the polio
01:33:45.580 is coming out
01:33:46.220 in their fecal material
01:33:47.340 so it spreads
01:33:48.540 the disease
01:33:49.320 and that's what
01:33:51.400 they did in the Congo
01:33:52.300 but you can,
01:33:53.240 you know,
01:33:53.500 when you look,
01:33:54.440 when people look
01:33:54.980 at polio
01:33:55.480 and public health
01:33:56.500 people look at polio
01:33:58.460 they can tell
01:33:59.080 whether that polio
01:33:59.920 is wild polio
01:34:00.920 or it's vaccine polio
01:34:02.040 and 70%
01:34:04.040 of the cases
01:34:04.680 now on Earth
01:34:05.760 at least
01:34:06.880 are vaccine polio
01:34:08.540 and that means
01:34:09.380 Gates' vaccine
01:34:10.420 you know,
01:34:13.280 you're asking me
01:34:14.340 kind of a broader
01:34:15.060 question about
01:34:15.960 what does Gates
01:34:17.480 have to do.
01:34:19.080 I think that Gates
01:34:20.700 is well intended
01:34:21.940 the way that,
01:34:22.800 you know,
01:34:23.220 missionaries
01:34:23.900 who brought
01:34:24.480 smallpox
01:34:25.340 to the Indians
01:34:26.540 were well intended.
01:34:28.640 I think he also,
01:34:30.620 he believes
01:34:31.640 that
01:34:32.200 he is somehow
01:34:34.780 ordained
01:34:35.720 by,
01:34:36.460 you know,
01:34:37.100 divinely
01:34:37.680 to bring salvation
01:34:40.660 to the world
01:34:41.280 through technology
01:34:42.240 and I think
01:34:43.200 that notion
01:34:44.400 is probably fortified
01:34:45.760 by his experience
01:34:47.740 with Microsoft
01:34:48.420 where he really
01:34:49.260 did change
01:34:50.160 humanity
01:34:51.000 and the planet
01:34:51.880 in the way
01:34:52.320 that we,
01:34:52.860 you know,
01:34:53.160 communicate with each other
01:34:54.340 and he really sees
01:34:57.360 a vaccine
01:34:58.380 or technology
01:34:59.900 in general
01:35:00.500 as salvation
01:35:01.540 and I think
01:35:02.520 that that
01:35:03.080 has given him
01:35:03.920 a blindness
01:35:04.520 and statisticians
01:35:07.800 call that,
01:35:08.560 have a name
01:35:09.000 for that blindness
01:35:09.800 and it's called
01:35:10.900 confirmation bias
01:35:12.260 where he will,
01:35:14.920 he will see
01:35:16.540 and incorporate
01:35:17.420 and integrate
01:35:18.100 data
01:35:18.680 that supports
01:35:20.140 his worldview
01:35:20.880 and he refused
01:35:21.960 to see data
01:35:22.880 that don't,
01:35:23.500 like the DTP study
01:35:25.100 I was telling you
01:35:25.840 about by Morgensen.
01:35:27.900 How can he continue
01:35:29.080 to insist
01:35:29.760 that African children
01:35:30.620 get that shot
01:35:31.460 when he knows
01:35:32.180 it's probably killing
01:35:32.860 millions of kids
01:35:33.860 and yet there's
01:35:35.720 a hard-headedness
01:35:36.820 that is,
01:35:37.600 I don't think
01:35:38.320 it's from,
01:35:39.020 you know,
01:35:39.520 saying,
01:35:41.000 I'm not going
01:35:42.180 admit it's mistaken
01:35:43.000 I'm going to kill
01:35:43.560 millions of African children
01:35:44.820 but I think it's that
01:35:46.020 I'm not going to look
01:35:47.520 at the possibility
01:35:48.940 that this could have
01:35:50.000 been an error
01:35:50.500 and I'm going to
01:35:52.240 dig my heels in it
01:35:53.140 and he died,
01:35:54.940 you know,
01:35:55.200 the same thing
01:35:55.940 happened in India.
01:35:57.460 He was thrown
01:35:58.220 out of India
01:35:58.920 because of an experiment
01:36:01.180 that he did
01:36:01.800 on 26,000
01:36:04.340 illiterate tribal girls 0.76
01:36:05.820 in the northern territories
01:36:07.340 where he tested
01:36:08.220 a very, very dangerous
01:36:09.440 HPV vaccine
01:36:10.540 on them
01:36:11.280 and I think
01:36:11.960 2,600
01:36:12.720 had either lost
01:36:15.140 their capacity
01:36:16.520 to have children
01:36:17.400 or have horrendous
01:36:18.880 autoimmune diseases
01:36:19.900 and when the Indian
01:36:22.040 government went in
01:36:23.000 they were horrified
01:36:23.900 to investigate
01:36:24.740 they found out
01:36:25.660 that Gates' operatives
01:36:26.980 had, you know,
01:36:28.140 had bullied
01:36:28.820 these families
01:36:30.360 into signing
01:36:31.500 you know,
01:36:35.260 confirmation agreements
01:36:36.720 and they were illiterate 0.84
01:36:38.700 that they didn't understand
01:36:39.920 consent agreements
01:36:41.660 that they didn't understand
01:36:43.180 etc.
01:36:43.760 and they treated
01:36:44.880 unethically
01:36:45.420 they weren't providing
01:36:46.220 medical care
01:36:47.900 to the kids
01:36:48.360 they injured
01:36:48.900 or anything like that
01:36:49.880 so
01:36:50.200 he had a similar
01:36:52.140 scandal
01:36:52.680 with a couple
01:36:53.580 of malaria vaccines
01:36:54.620 that they experimented
01:36:56.240 they did these
01:36:56.740 really horrendous
01:36:57.540 experiments
01:36:57.960 in Africa
01:36:58.680 I think he believes
01:37:00.900 it's okay
01:37:01.480 because he believes
01:37:02.680 so strongly
01:37:03.420 the vaccine
01:37:04.000 is going to save
01:37:04.660 people
01:37:05.100 that, you know,
01:37:05.860 the people
01:37:06.260 that he experiments
01:37:07.100 on are collateral
01:37:08.160 damage
01:37:08.860 and that, you know,
01:37:09.860 but it's kind of a
01:37:10.900 it's a worrying
01:37:13.020 posture
01:37:14.160 that, you know,
01:37:15.260 somebody with that
01:37:15.960 much power
01:37:16.760 also believes
01:37:18.340 that he is able
01:37:19.120 to play
01:37:20.860 with people's lives
01:37:21.880 and he's willing
01:37:23.220 to ignore data
01:37:24.400 so
01:37:25.660 in
01:37:27.700 his other
01:37:29.200 fixations
01:37:31.100 are GMO crops
01:37:32.620 and
01:37:33.100 this is another
01:37:34.080 problem with Gates
01:37:34.820 is he tends
01:37:35.800 in the nation
01:37:36.680 did an expose
01:37:37.620 on this
01:37:38.400 a couple of weeks ago
01:37:39.340 that
01:37:39.660 his personal investments
01:37:41.720 and his
01:37:43.840 Bill and Melinda Gates
01:37:45.460 Foundation investments
01:37:46.440 tend to be
01:37:47.320 in companies
01:37:48.100 that
01:37:48.960 benefit
01:37:50.360 from his
01:37:51.200 philanthropical
01:37:52.220 activities
01:37:52.680 so he's very
01:37:53.540 very
01:37:53.800 heavily
01:37:56.020 invested
01:37:56.660 in vaccine
01:37:57.260 companies
01:37:57.900 that are making
01:37:58.760 a killing
01:37:59.280 for the policies
01:38:00.140 that he is
01:38:00.880 pushing
01:38:02.140 or very
01:38:03.800 he's very invested
01:38:04.840 in Monsanto
01:38:05.760 he's pushing
01:38:07.340 GMO crops
01:38:08.260 and chemical
01:38:08.800 fertilizers
01:38:09.480 all over Africa
01:38:10.380 many places
01:38:11.140 where they're
01:38:11.500 clearly
01:38:11.880 inappropriate
01:38:12.600 and
01:38:14.300 he's very much
01:38:16.220 invested
01:38:16.700 in 5G
01:38:17.520 which is
01:38:19.060 kind of sinister
01:38:19.940 and he's
01:38:21.240 you know
01:38:21.500 putting a lot
01:38:22.040 of satellites
01:38:22.640 hundreds of
01:38:23.200 satellites
01:38:23.640 into orbit
01:38:24.320 he's putting
01:38:25.960 tens
01:38:26.420 of thousands
01:38:27.880 of ground
01:38:28.760 antenna
01:38:29.280 that are
01:38:30.280 not there
01:38:31.680 that
01:38:33.000 you know
01:38:34.000 what
01:38:34.240 one of his
01:38:34.960 companies
01:38:35.300 promising
01:38:35.960 is that
01:38:36.560 they will be
01:38:37.160 able to do
01:38:37.860 surveillance
01:38:38.560 with one second
01:38:39.800 delay
01:38:40.260 on every corner
01:38:41.240 of the earth
01:38:41.760 literally
01:38:42.280 every corner
01:38:43.180 of the earth
01:38:43.740 and he
01:38:45.400 also
01:38:45.940 so
01:38:46.520 and 5G
01:38:48.180 is not
01:38:48.940 about
01:38:49.400 helping you
01:38:50.420 download
01:38:51.220 your video
01:38:52.260 game quickly
01:38:53.060 you know
01:38:53.620 that's what
01:38:54.100 they're telling
01:38:54.620 you on these
01:38:55.180 glossy ads
01:38:55.960 on TV
01:38:56.460 but that
01:38:56.980 has nothing
01:38:57.420 to do
01:38:57.700 you care
01:38:58.600 if it takes
01:39:00.300 you 20 seconds
01:39:01.040 or 10 seconds
01:39:01.920 to download
01:39:03.100 a video game
01:39:03.860 it's not
01:39:04.260 going to really
01:39:04.680 change your
01:39:05.180 life
01:39:05.520 5G has
01:39:06.920 nothing to do
01:39:07.460 with that
01:39:07.760 5G is about
01:39:09.000 surveillance
01:39:10.340 and it's about
01:39:11.400 data harvesting
01:39:12.640 the biggest
01:39:13.520 repository of wealth
01:39:15.220 in the world
01:39:15.720 right now
01:39:16.300 it's not gold
01:39:17.040 it's not oil
01:39:17.840 it's data
01:39:18.620 and we now
01:39:20.420 have a capacity
01:39:21.360 by connecting
01:39:23.300 all these devices
01:39:24.300 it's called
01:39:24.780 the connectedness
01:39:25.600 of things
01:39:26.240 you connect
01:39:27.880 your Apple watch
01:39:29.540 to the
01:39:31.880 to the internet
01:39:32.780 you connect
01:39:33.660 your microwave
01:39:34.340 oven
01:39:34.680 you know
01:39:35.100 it's a smart
01:39:35.740 microwave
01:39:36.400 you connect
01:39:37.980 your Alexis
01:39:38.740 which is
01:39:39.500 listening to your
01:39:40.500 conversations
01:39:41.080 all day
01:39:41.780 your Siri
01:39:42.620 which is listening
01:39:43.400 to your cell phone
01:39:44.260 which is listening
01:39:44.780 to your conversations
01:39:45.640 you can
01:39:46.600 you know
01:39:47.060 what your buying
01:39:47.760 habits are
01:39:48.400 you know
01:39:48.760 your heart rate
01:39:49.800 you know
01:39:51.180 everything about you
01:39:52.420 and all that
01:39:53.500 information is data
01:39:55.440 that if it is
01:39:56.360 characterized
01:39:56.860 in an archive
01:39:57.580 is useful
01:39:58.880 and saleable
01:39:59.820 because it's telling
01:40:01.040 these companies
01:40:02.580 the behaviors
01:40:03.460 that will trigger
01:40:04.340 buying
01:40:05.080 reactions by you
01:40:08.280 you know
01:40:09.860 specifically
01:40:10.340 how to target you
01:40:11.600 where to target you
01:40:12.780 what time of the day
01:40:13.840 what kind of music
01:40:14.740 that you like
01:40:15.700 what kind of
01:40:16.380 what is going to
01:40:17.220 appeal to you
01:40:17.800 and get your attention
01:40:18.620 and get you
01:40:19.040 to buy stuff
01:40:19.800 and those
01:40:21.480 algorithms
01:40:22.180 are so powerful
01:40:23.120 that they're almost
01:40:23.860 irresistible
01:40:24.600 and that's what
01:40:25.640 he's harvesting
01:40:26.320 so he
01:40:27.000 you know
01:40:27.540 he's going to be
01:40:28.780 able to look at
01:40:29.900 through facial
01:40:31.420 recognition
01:40:32.020 have complete
01:40:32.880 control of our
01:40:33.660 society
01:40:34.200 you know
01:40:34.720 the other day
01:40:35.560 there were
01:40:37.040 surfers
01:40:38.080 who were
01:40:40.100 um
01:40:40.660 the police
01:40:42.120 were down
01:40:42.480 at Point Dome
01:40:43.080 which is near
01:40:43.640 where I live
01:40:44.300 and they were
01:40:44.880 giving surfers
01:40:46.180 thousand dollar
01:40:47.220 tickets
01:40:47.760 right
01:40:48.640 and so that's
01:40:49.800 pretty offensive
01:40:50.760 but you can say
01:40:51.340 well that was just
01:40:52.120 overreaction
01:40:53.060 just an appalling
01:40:54.000 judgment
01:40:54.480 by these
01:40:55.120 police
01:40:55.860 ticketing people
01:40:57.520 from going in the ocean
01:40:58.480 the sunshine
01:40:59.140 where you're supposed
01:40:59.840 to be
01:41:00.400 you know
01:41:00.780 to boost your
01:41:02.080 immune system
01:41:02.660 and um
01:41:04.760 but
01:41:05.420 imagine if you
01:41:06.760 don't need the police
01:41:07.680 imagine if we live
01:41:09.640 in a world
01:41:10.220 where
01:41:11.580 your movements
01:41:12.780 are being tracked
01:41:13.540 by satellites
01:41:14.420 and by facial
01:41:15.700 recognition
01:41:16.240 and by GPS
01:41:17.480 and by
01:41:18.340 on your car
01:41:19.560 on your cell phone
01:41:20.600 so that every
01:41:21.500 moment of the day
01:41:22.300 the authorities
01:41:24.500 know where you are
01:41:25.460 and corporations
01:41:26.280 know where you are
01:41:27.140 so when you go
01:41:27.840 to the beach
01:41:28.460 they don't have
01:41:30.120 to arrest you
01:41:31.100 they just send you
01:41:31.920 a thousand dollar
01:41:32.600 bill
01:41:32.780 but not
01:41:33.220 they don't even
01:41:33.740 send it to you
01:41:34.340 they just take it
01:41:35.560 directly out of
01:41:36.500 your
01:41:36.840 cryptocurrency
01:41:38.280 you know
01:41:39.240 paycheck account
01:41:40.100 and we're all
01:41:40.920 being you know
01:41:41.680 by this
01:41:42.080 particularly this
01:41:42.740 pandemic
01:41:43.220 is training us
01:41:45.580 with new kinds
01:41:46.280 of behavior
01:41:46.800 to do what we're
01:41:48.020 told
01:41:48.380 to accept this
01:41:49.460 kind of surveillance
01:41:50.280 to accept these
01:41:51.360 constraints
01:41:51.900 on our
01:41:52.680 on our
01:41:54.060 civil rights
01:41:55.080 to allow
01:41:56.300 the government
01:41:57.020 to come in
01:41:57.840 and tell us
01:41:58.460 you stay at home
01:41:59.340 you don't go to
01:41:59.920 the beach
01:42:00.340 you don't send
01:42:01.300 your kids to
01:42:01.920 school
01:42:02.600 you don't leave
01:42:03.800 your house
01:42:04.340 and actually
01:42:05.120 accept those
01:42:06.080 kind of orders
01:42:06.740 one of the
01:42:08.120 companies
01:42:08.580 he's got
01:42:09.380 many companies
01:42:10.320 that are
01:42:11.060 installing chips
01:42:13.100 that will carry
01:42:15.120 around your
01:42:15.540 medical records
01:42:16.240 but they'll also
01:42:16.840 be capable of
01:42:17.620 carrying around
01:42:18.440 your other data
01:42:19.280 so that if a cop
01:42:20.520 pulls you over
01:42:21.640 for speeding
01:42:22.300 he can scan you
01:42:23.280 and look
01:42:24.980 and look at your
01:42:25.220 criminal record
01:42:25.980 look at your
01:42:27.080 buying history
01:42:27.940 see if you've
01:42:29.200 been to a liquor
01:42:29.720 store recently
01:42:30.660 and you know
01:42:32.520 do we really
01:42:33.540 and then
01:42:34.120 he's got another
01:42:35.100 Microsoft
01:42:35.700 just patented
01:42:37.800 a chip system
01:42:38.680 that is a
01:42:40.500 biometric
01:42:41.220 subdermal
01:42:42.420 sensor system
01:42:43.900 so it will
01:42:44.960 actually be able
01:42:45.900 to sense
01:42:46.300 brain waves
01:42:47.220 and body
01:42:49.460 signals
01:42:51.900 like heart rate
01:42:52.880 etc
01:42:53.240 and it will
01:42:55.500 assign you
01:42:57.320 tasks
01:42:58.060 in other words
01:43:00.280 you will get a
01:43:01.500 message on your
01:43:02.460 phone
01:43:02.860 to do
01:43:04.580 certain tasks
01:43:05.700 and your
01:43:06.760 tasks
01:43:07.240 will be
01:43:07.860 look at a
01:43:08.920 certain ad
01:43:09.560 when it appears
01:43:10.120 on TV
01:43:10.640 in 30 seconds
01:43:11.660 listen to this
01:43:13.580 music
01:43:14.060 walk down this
01:43:15.240 aisle
01:43:15.780 in this grocery
01:43:16.780 store
01:43:17.260 and then it
01:43:18.800 will monitor
01:43:19.440 your
01:43:20.100 your monitor
01:43:21.400 your EEG
01:43:22.140 your brain waves
01:43:23.200 your heart rate
01:43:24.460 your adrenaline
01:43:25.280 all this kind
01:43:26.360 of stuff
01:43:26.900 and it feeds
01:43:28.620 that information
01:43:29.440 to marketing
01:43:30.300 companies
01:43:31.140 and you
01:43:33.300 then get paid
01:43:34.180 for doing
01:43:34.700 that task
01:43:35.460 with crypto
01:43:36.000 currency
01:43:36.500 that goes
01:43:36.940 directly
01:43:37.300 into your
01:43:37.740 account
01:43:38.140 so you
01:43:39.880 know
01:43:40.040 these
01:43:40.520 companies
01:43:41.020 like
01:43:41.560 Elon Musk
01:43:42.960 who also
01:43:43.480 controls
01:43:43.980 all the
01:43:44.320 satellites
01:43:44.780 and Gates
01:43:46.020 you know
01:43:46.360 are going
01:43:46.660 to be
01:43:46.840 putting us
01:43:47.260 all out
01:43:47.720 of business
01:43:48.060 half the
01:43:48.600 people in
01:43:48.900 this country
01:43:49.320 make some
01:43:49.960 of their
01:43:50.180 living
01:43:50.460 driving a
01:43:51.040 car
01:43:51.320 well now
01:43:52.000 they're going
01:43:52.300 to give
01:43:52.560 us
01:43:52.860 you know
01:43:53.220 these
01:43:53.720 driverless
01:43:55.740 cars
01:43:56.080 and you're
01:43:56.420 going to
01:43:56.580 have a lot
01:43:57.100 of Americans
01:43:57.600 who are
01:43:57.880 permanently
01:43:58.260 unemployed
01:43:58.740 and they're
01:43:59.580 going to
01:44:00.080 want these
01:44:01.040 chips
01:44:01.420 because you
01:44:02.380 can make
01:44:02.740 money
01:44:03.140 by doing
01:44:03.820 these tasks
01:44:04.440 by playing
01:44:04.940 a video game
01:44:05.680 or whatever
01:44:06.260 and it's
01:44:07.800 going to
01:44:08.220 it's basically
01:44:09.280 a process
01:44:09.880 of turning
01:44:10.460 us all
01:44:11.080 into production
01:44:11.880 units
01:44:12.420 all into
01:44:13.440 enslaved
01:44:14.480 consumers
01:44:15.680 and you
01:44:18.420 know
01:44:18.600 with total
01:44:19.180 surveillance
01:44:19.680 all the time
01:44:20.280 is another
01:44:21.620 chip
01:44:22.040 which will
01:44:23.480 turn off
01:44:23.940 your ovaries
01:44:24.700 and you
01:44:26.360 know
01:44:26.580 wirelessly
01:44:27.860 I'm not
01:44:29.280 making
01:44:29.600 this up
01:44:30.260 in fact
01:44:30.820 I'm going
01:44:31.120 to publish
01:44:31.880 on it
01:44:32.260 in two
01:44:32.600 days
01:44:33.060 and you
01:44:33.420 know
01:44:33.540 all
01:44:33.880 source
01:44:34.420 and everything
01:44:34.920 else
01:44:35.380 and so
01:44:37.080 you can
01:44:37.720 look for it
01:44:38.260 on children's
01:44:38.800 health defense
01:44:39.480 and on my
01:44:40.640 Instagram
01:44:41.060 and you'll
01:44:42.520 see that
01:44:42.880 these things
01:44:43.400 are real
01:44:43.820 they're not
01:44:44.340 just from
01:44:44.740 some horrible
01:44:45.520 nightmare
01:44:45.980 they're real
01:44:46.620 and they're
01:44:47.060 happening now
01:44:47.720 and this
01:44:48.160 pandemic
01:44:48.640 is allowing
01:44:49.540 them
01:44:50.020 to change
01:44:52.020 our lives
01:44:52.700 and change
01:44:53.160 our country
01:44:53.720 and put
01:44:55.060 us under
01:44:55.780 you know
01:44:56.260 into a
01:44:56.680 permanent
01:44:57.000 surveillance
01:44:57.620 state
01:44:58.020 what would
01:45:00.000 you rank
01:45:00.420 him as
01:45:00.780 the most
01:45:01.040 powerful
01:45:01.360 man in
01:45:01.720 the world
01:45:02.120 well
01:45:03.780 he's
01:45:04.340 he's the
01:45:05.880 most powerful
01:45:06.380 man in
01:45:06.800 public health
01:45:07.380 because he
01:45:08.420 owns the
01:45:09.260 WHO
01:45:09.940 he gives
01:45:10.680 10% of
01:45:11.360 their budget
01:45:11.860 and that
01:45:12.340 you know
01:45:12.700 but that
01:45:13.380 10%
01:45:13.940 that marginal
01:45:14.600 10%
01:45:15.420 is the
01:45:16.920 10%
01:45:17.380 that they'll
01:45:17.840 beg and
01:45:18.280 roll over
01:45:18.760 for
01:45:19.100 you know
01:45:20.060 and so
01:45:20.820 he has
01:45:22.020 changed
01:45:22.560 WHO
01:45:23.140 used to
01:45:23.940 do
01:45:24.160 something
01:45:24.540 that was
01:45:24.900 really
01:45:25.140 good
01:45:25.580 which is
01:45:27.020 they understood
01:45:27.800 that
01:45:28.120 disease
01:45:29.460 is a
01:45:31.340 symptom
01:45:34.060 of
01:45:34.800 poverty
01:45:36.180 and that
01:45:37.220 if you
01:45:37.500 want to
01:45:38.120 stop
01:45:39.120 disease
01:45:40.700 you
01:45:41.640 do
01:45:42.420 development
01:45:43.040 you do
01:45:43.540 nutrition
01:45:44.060 you do
01:45:44.540 clean water
01:45:45.260 you do
01:45:45.620 sanitation
01:45:46.260 that's what
01:45:47.840 they were
01:45:48.080 doing
01:45:48.400 and Gates
01:45:49.060 came in
01:45:49.560 there and
01:45:49.980 said
01:45:50.220 we don't
01:45:51.320 want to
01:45:51.560 do that
01:45:52.000 you know
01:45:53.000 we're going
01:45:53.280 to do
01:45:53.400 a little
01:45:53.660 of that
01:45:54.100 we're going
01:45:55.760 to shift
01:45:56.160 everything
01:45:56.880 toward
01:45:57.260 vaccines
01:45:57.880 and so
01:45:59.000 you know
01:45:59.380 because he
01:45:59.880 doesn't
01:46:00.220 understand
01:46:00.940 that good
01:46:01.420 health
01:46:01.780 comes from
01:46:02.580 good
01:46:03.660 immune
01:46:03.980 system
01:46:04.280 good
01:46:04.520 nutrition
01:46:04.980 good
01:46:05.240 water
01:46:05.720 clean
01:46:06.200 water
01:46:06.460 exercise
01:46:07.120 you know
01:46:08.440 wholesome
01:46:08.980 lives
01:46:09.460 he believes
01:46:11.000 the only
01:46:11.600 path to
01:46:12.140 good health
01:46:12.660 is inside
01:46:13.580 syringe
01:46:14.240 and so
01:46:15.220 now half
01:46:16.980 the
01:46:17.300 WHO's
01:46:18.720 budget
01:46:19.080 goes to
01:46:20.000 his
01:46:20.220 pet
01:46:21.300 polio
01:46:22.000 eradication
01:46:22.800 program
01:46:23.220 which is
01:46:23.840 spreading
01:46:24.160 polio
01:46:24.640 that's not
01:46:26.080 a good
01:46:26.340 thing for
01:46:26.860 anybody
01:46:27.460 have you
01:46:28.300 had a
01:46:28.520 conversation
01:46:29.020 with him
01:46:29.480 have you
01:46:29.900 and him
01:46:30.140 ever
01:46:30.300 never
01:46:31.820 respond
01:46:34.340 never
01:46:34.640 gone back
01:46:35.120 have you
01:46:36.520 have you
01:46:36.960 I know
01:46:37.520 you went
01:46:37.840 to the
01:46:38.080 White House
01:46:38.560 and you
01:46:39.100 were getting
01:46:39.500 ready to be
01:46:40.040 part of
01:46:40.400 some kind
01:46:40.780 of a
01:46:41.220 President
01:46:42.200 Trump's
01:46:42.620 committee
01:46:42.800 have you
01:46:43.560 been
01:46:43.740 communicating
01:46:44.240 with
01:46:44.460 President
01:46:44.800 Trump
01:46:45.400 or Mike
01:46:45.900 Pence
01:46:46.140 recently
01:46:46.520 about any
01:46:46.920 of this
01:46:47.140 stuff
01:46:47.340 or no
01:46:47.720 not recently
01:46:48.620 during their
01:46:49.580 first
01:46:51.580 I'd say
01:46:53.540 four or five
01:46:54.320 months
01:46:54.760 we had a lot
01:46:55.680 of meetings
01:46:56.160 with them
01:46:57.360 but then
01:46:57.940 they took
01:46:59.000 a different
01:46:59.300 direction
01:46:59.760 you know
01:47:00.240 they gave
01:47:00.720 after
01:47:01.380 President
01:47:02.900 Trump
01:47:03.240 it was
01:47:03.720 at that
01:47:04.180 time
01:47:04.600 the
01:47:06.160 President
01:47:06.480 Elect
01:47:06.980 called me
01:47:08.760 over Christmas
01:47:09.360 and he
01:47:10.020 asked
01:47:10.380 me
01:47:10.640 to come
01:47:11.000 to
01:47:11.140 New York
01:47:12.040 and meet
01:47:12.360 with him
01:47:12.600 at Trump
01:47:12.920 Tower
01:47:13.320 and I
01:47:13.920 went
01:47:14.360 and met
01:47:15.840 with him
01:47:16.340 and Pence
01:47:17.020 and Steve
01:47:17.520 Bannon
01:47:17.960 and Rance
01:47:18.540 Priebus
01:47:19.120 and Hope
01:47:19.560 Hill
01:47:19.900 and you
01:47:21.440 know
01:47:21.620 his
01:47:22.140 sons
01:47:23.040 and Kellyanne
01:47:24.440 Conway
01:47:24.920 and we
01:47:26.660 had a
01:47:27.000 meeting
01:47:27.260 and he
01:47:27.600 asked me
01:47:28.140 to be
01:47:28.640 to run
01:47:29.660 a vaccine
01:47:30.100 safety
01:47:30.480 commission
01:47:31.020 and that
01:47:32.460 got
01:47:32.940 announced
01:47:33.460 he asked
01:47:34.520 me actually
01:47:35.000 to go
01:47:35.280 to a
01:47:35.640 press
01:47:35.880 conference
01:47:36.200 that day
01:47:36.700 and announce
01:47:37.220 it
01:47:37.460 and
01:47:39.060 it
01:47:40.360 got
01:47:40.560 announced
01:47:41.060 and
01:47:41.420 then
01:47:41.780 immediately
01:47:43.100 after that
01:47:43.940 announcement
01:47:44.460 it was
01:47:44.940 a huge
01:47:45.600 blowback
01:47:46.240 but one
01:47:47.000 of the things
01:47:47.340 that happened
01:47:47.780 is Pfizer
01:47:48.580 immediately
01:47:50.460 made a million
01:47:51.160 dollar donation
01:47:52.040 to the
01:47:52.500 inaugural
01:47:52.960 party
01:47:53.840 and then
01:47:55.840 President
01:47:56.440 Trump
01:47:57.000 put
01:47:58.320 Alex
01:47:58.840 Azar
01:47:59.380 who was
01:47:59.800 a hand
01:48:00.240 picked
01:48:00.580 Pfizer
01:48:01.300 lobbyist
01:48:02.540 in charge
01:48:03.780 of HHS
01:48:04.400 he put
01:48:04.780 Gottlieb
01:48:05.500 who was also
01:48:06.160 handpicked
01:48:06.620 by Pfizer
01:48:07.360 as head
01:48:07.860 of CDC
01:48:08.340 and we
01:48:10.240 had these
01:48:10.700 really good
01:48:11.280 meetings
01:48:11.740 during the
01:48:12.200 first part
01:48:12.620 of the
01:48:12.780 administration
01:48:13.280 but as
01:48:13.700 soon as
01:48:14.020 those guys
01:48:14.460 came in
01:48:14.920 they shut
01:48:15.320 us down
01:48:15.800 and they
01:48:16.500 said we're
01:48:17.080 not going
01:48:17.340 to talk
01:48:17.660 to you
01:48:17.820 anymore
01:48:18.180 may not
01:48:19.100 be a bad
01:48:19.440 time for
01:48:19.700 an open
01:48:19.960 letter
01:48:20.220 may not
01:48:22.100 be a bad
01:48:22.640 time for
01:48:23.060 an open
01:48:23.420 letter
01:48:23.720 from you
01:48:24.200 this may
01:48:24.720 not be a
01:48:25.100 bad time
01:48:25.440 for an
01:48:25.660 open letter
01:48:26.020 from you
01:48:27.080 the problem
01:48:28.700 with an open
01:48:29.160 letter
01:48:29.500 is that
01:48:30.080 you have to
01:48:31.040 go to the
01:48:31.380 CHD's
01:48:31.980 website
01:48:32.320 to read
01:48:32.780 it
01:48:32.920 because no
01:48:33.560 newspaper
01:48:34.420 will print
01:48:34.960 anything
01:48:35.460 that we
01:48:36.180 write
01:48:36.460 you know
01:48:37.220 what's crazy
01:48:37.840 is you
01:48:38.200 sound like
01:48:38.680 a libertarian
01:48:39.380 you don't
01:48:39.920 sound like
01:48:40.400 a democrat
01:48:40.860 I mean
01:48:41.400 you know
01:48:41.900 I definitely
01:48:43.980 I've always
01:48:45.120 been a free
01:48:45.620 market
01:48:46.060 you know
01:48:46.600 my whole
01:48:47.280 environmental
01:48:49.240 I'm really
01:48:51.420 for personal
01:48:52.040 freedoms
01:48:52.540 that's what
01:48:53.080 I'm for
01:48:53.580 I'm not
01:48:54.460 a libertarian
01:48:55.340 because I
01:48:57.120 don't believe
01:48:57.680 in the
01:48:58.180 commons
01:48:58.800 that you
01:48:59.900 do need
01:49:00.660 government
01:49:00.960 regulation
01:49:01.620 in the
01:49:01.900 commons
01:49:02.240 in other
01:49:02.800 words
01:49:03.000 nobody
01:49:04.440 ever
01:49:04.700 builds
01:49:04.960 sewage
01:49:05.380 treatment
01:49:05.720 plants
01:49:06.300 you know
01:49:07.660 because
01:49:08.740 they
01:49:08.940 wanted
01:49:09.240 to
01:49:09.560 there's
01:49:10.360 no
01:49:10.540 money
01:49:10.840 in
01:49:11.020 building
01:49:11.280 that
01:49:11.480 sewage
01:49:11.780 treatment
01:49:12.080 plant
01:49:12.340 there
01:49:12.520 never
01:49:12.740 will
01:49:12.980 be
01:49:13.240 and
01:49:13.520 so
01:49:13.740 you
01:49:14.020 if
01:49:14.380 you're
01:49:14.620 going to
01:49:14.900 pollute
01:49:15.560 the publicly
01:49:16.460 owned
01:49:16.940 resources
01:49:17.660 air
01:49:18.180 water
01:49:18.600 wildlife
01:49:19.340 public land
01:49:21.380 you need
01:49:22.200 regulation
01:49:23.240 in the
01:49:23.540 commons
01:49:23.900 there's
01:49:24.160 actually
01:49:24.580 an economic
01:49:25.140 law
01:49:25.580 called
01:49:25.920 the
01:49:26.060 tragedy
01:49:26.480 of
01:49:26.640 the
01:49:26.720 commons
01:49:27.140 that
01:49:27.460 you know
01:49:28.060 that
01:49:28.320 lays
01:49:28.900 that
01:49:29.140 out
01:49:29.480 it's
01:49:30.140 all of
01:49:30.740 our
01:49:30.900 economic
01:49:31.380 interest
01:49:31.880 to catch
01:49:32.280 the last
01:49:32.720 fish
01:49:32.960 in the
01:49:33.220 ocean
01:49:33.540 it's
01:49:34.700 not in
01:49:35.060 society's
01:49:35.700 interest
01:49:36.060 and the
01:49:36.500 role of
01:49:36.820 government
01:49:37.220 is to
01:49:37.740 make sure
01:49:38.160 that that
01:49:38.520 doesn't happen
01:49:39.100 to regulate
01:49:39.600 the fishery
01:49:41.060 but why don't you
01:49:41.840 talk about
01:49:42.300 private property
01:49:43.220 I am a
01:49:44.360 libertarian
01:49:44.900 I believe
01:49:45.600 in free market
01:49:46.600 capitalism
01:49:47.220 I believe
01:49:47.900 that the
01:49:48.340 market
01:49:48.800 is
01:49:49.520 the best
01:49:51.620 way
01:49:52.180 to end
01:49:53.740 environmental
01:49:54.260 pollution
01:49:54.840 and all
01:49:55.700 pollution
01:49:56.160 is about
01:49:56.720 subsidies
01:49:57.280 and that
01:49:58.540 you know
01:49:59.160 and about
01:50:00.640 large
01:50:01.360 powerful
01:50:01.940 entities
01:50:02.340 using
01:50:02.780 political
01:50:03.300 clout
01:50:03.800 to escape
01:50:05.340 the discipline
01:50:05.940 of the free
01:50:06.460 market
01:50:06.840 and force
01:50:07.360 the public
01:50:07.820 to pay
01:50:08.180 their
01:50:08.460 cost of
01:50:09.040 production
01:50:09.400 so
01:50:09.840 I
01:50:10.280 you know
01:50:10.900 when I
01:50:11.600 speak about
01:50:13.540 the environment
01:50:14.220 to a group
01:50:14.960 republicans
01:50:15.860 I almost
01:50:16.500 always
01:50:17.060 get standing
01:50:17.840 ovations
01:50:18.420 you know
01:50:18.960 because
01:50:19.540 I'm so aligned
01:50:21.300 with
01:50:21.720 you know
01:50:22.700 I think
01:50:23.420 mainstream
01:50:24.140 classic
01:50:25.080 historical
01:50:25.740 American
01:50:26.240 thinking
01:50:26.720 about
01:50:27.200 how markets
01:50:29.020 work
01:50:29.480 I think
01:50:29.940 I would
01:50:30.480 you know
01:50:31.100 I think
01:50:31.860 Milton Freeman
01:50:32.560 would be
01:50:33.080 very
01:50:33.620 happy
01:50:35.680 with the way
01:50:36.220 that I talk
01:50:36.800 about those
01:50:37.360 things
01:50:37.740 yeah
01:50:38.800 no
01:50:39.060 and I'm a product
01:50:40.500 of Milton Freeman
01:50:41.160 obviously you see him
01:50:41.920 back here in the
01:50:42.400 painting
01:50:42.700 you sound like
01:50:44.540 a lot of that
01:50:45.020 by the way
01:50:45.580 last couple
01:50:46.340 minutes here
01:50:46.740 before we wrap up
01:50:47.460 I'd like to
01:50:47.980 you said something
01:50:49.120 here about your
01:50:49.680 family rituals
01:50:50.460 one of the things
01:50:51.120 you said every night
01:50:51.920 we were encouraged
01:50:53.260 to argue
01:50:54.100 and debate
01:50:54.900 and constantly do that
01:50:55.800 what were some
01:50:56.860 of the Kennedy
01:50:57.380 family rituals
01:50:58.320 that you guys had
01:50:59.280 well we
01:51:02.420 I mean
01:51:02.760 you know
01:51:03.460 our family
01:51:04.380 was really
01:51:04.960 Catholic family
01:51:05.740 we went to church
01:51:06.620 when I was a kid
01:51:07.540 I went to church
01:51:08.680 at least
01:51:09.340 I mean
01:51:10.000 I went to church
01:51:10.900 oftentimes
01:51:12.160 once or twice a day
01:51:13.760 we said
01:51:14.880 prayers before
01:51:16.000 and after every meal
01:51:17.020 we said
01:51:17.660 a rosary
01:51:18.460 sometimes three rosaries
01:51:19.740 a day
01:51:20.160 we read the Bible
01:51:21.020 every night
01:51:21.760 and you know
01:51:24.580 then we played
01:51:25.680 a lot of sports
01:51:26.620 a lot of outdoor
01:51:28.900 activities
01:51:30.020 and you know
01:51:33.300 and my father
01:51:34.060 loved the wilderness
01:51:34.820 and he took us
01:51:35.840 mountain climbing
01:51:36.660 he taught us all
01:51:37.680 how to whitewater
01:51:38.540 kayak
01:51:39.140 you know
01:51:40.260 we were all
01:51:41.020 scuba diving
01:51:43.500 and doing
01:51:44.320 whitewater
01:51:45.420 from
01:51:45.820 you know
01:51:46.260 at a time
01:51:47.020 when not many people
01:51:47.880 were doing those things
01:51:49.100 and my
01:51:49.600 you know
01:51:50.100 my father was
01:51:51.080 and all of my family
01:51:52.500 I think were really
01:51:53.320 interested in
01:51:54.280 the wilderness
01:51:55.080 and the outdoors
01:51:55.980 and
01:51:57.740 you know
01:51:59.080 I mean
01:51:59.500 I had a wonderful
01:52:00.400 wonderful magical life
01:52:01.980 and
01:52:02.440 you know
01:52:02.960 I'm really
01:52:03.520 grateful to God
01:52:04.760 that I
01:52:05.200 you know
01:52:05.600 I got to do
01:52:06.220 all these things
01:52:07.060 did you spend a lot of time
01:52:08.620 with your grandfather
01:52:09.360 yeah I did
01:52:11.160 what do you remember
01:52:12.660 about him
01:52:13.080 because he's
01:52:13.740 he's one of the most
01:52:14.420 interesting characters
01:52:15.460 when I was getting
01:52:16.520 my series 7
01:52:17.400 with Morgan Stanley
01:52:18.340 Dean Witter
01:52:18.860 and I took a
01:52:20.120 Dearborn class
01:52:21.260 to take my series 7
01:52:22.540 they started teaching
01:52:23.260 about SEC
01:52:23.960 and then your
01:52:24.600 his name came up
01:52:26.020 Joseph
01:52:26.300 I mean
01:52:26.620 so I'm curious
01:52:27.780 about his character
01:52:28.560 how was he
01:52:29.180 what do you remember
01:52:29.700 about him
01:52:30.040 you know
01:52:30.640 he was
01:52:31.220 I think the best thing
01:52:33.400 you can say
01:52:34.080 first of all
01:52:34.620 a lot of people
01:52:35.320 there's a lot of
01:52:36.260 garbage
01:52:36.920 about my grandfather
01:52:38.340 out there
01:52:38.960 people say
01:52:39.580 he was a bootlegger
01:52:40.740 which is laughable
01:52:42.220 you know
01:52:42.680 there's never
01:52:43.560 nobody even made
01:52:45.900 that claim
01:52:46.660 during
01:52:47.640 until after
01:52:48.740 1964
01:52:50.060 but my grandfather
01:52:51.260 as you know
01:52:52.600 he had been through
01:52:54.260 three separate
01:52:55.080 Senate confirmations
01:52:56.240 he was the first
01:52:57.340 head of the SEC
01:52:58.220 he was the
01:52:59.860 and you know
01:53:01.120 really
01:53:01.420 with Roosevelt
01:53:02.560 saved Wall Street
01:53:03.780 he was
01:53:05.360 the ambassador
01:53:06.120 to Great Britain
01:53:07.620 during World War II
01:53:08.740 he was
01:53:09.640 the head of
01:53:10.800 the Maritime Commission
01:53:12.680 and these were
01:53:14.900 when he was a young man
01:53:16.220 he was the youngest
01:53:17.280 bank president
01:53:18.100 in our country
01:53:18.840 after he graduated
01:53:19.700 from Harvard
01:53:20.280 he was
01:53:21.720 he worked as
01:53:22.540 a bank examiner
01:53:24.700 for a couple of years
01:53:25.660 and then he
01:53:26.420 he took over
01:53:28.320 a bank
01:53:29.700 that was
01:53:30.320 the target
01:53:30.920 of a hostile takeover
01:53:32.100 by a big national
01:53:33.340 conglomerate
01:53:34.040 that it was a local
01:53:34.740 bank in Boston
01:53:35.680 that his father
01:53:37.660 had been involved in
01:53:38.600 and he went
01:53:39.120 and he took it over
01:53:40.260 and he made it
01:53:40.800 a success story
01:53:41.540 and then he went out
01:53:42.180 to Hollywood
01:53:42.680 and he made
01:53:43.380 hundreds of films
01:53:44.780 out here
01:53:45.280 he started one
01:53:45.840 of the biggest studios
01:53:46.820 he helped start
01:53:48.240 RKO
01:53:48.820 after my uncle died
01:53:51.000 there was
01:53:52.400 you know
01:53:52.680 the CIA
01:53:53.100 I've written a book
01:53:54.080 about the CIA's
01:53:55.320 relationship
01:53:56.060 with my family
01:53:56.860 about its 70 year
01:53:58.180 battle with my family
01:53:59.240 and there was
01:54:00.880 a guy
01:54:01.340 in the CIA
01:54:02.280 called Sam
01:54:03.000 Albert
01:54:03.420 whose job
01:54:04.300 was to tar
01:54:05.440 the Kennedy names
01:54:06.440 a lot of the bad
01:54:08.100 things that you hear
01:54:09.000 about my family
01:54:09.840 including this
01:54:10.820 this rumor
01:54:12.920 that my uncle
01:54:14.240 was
01:54:14.500 my grandfather
01:54:15.320 was a bootlegger
01:54:16.120 came from Sam
01:54:16.860 Albert
01:54:17.080 it's absurd
01:54:18.200 to think he was
01:54:18.840 my grandfather
01:54:20.260 had so many enemies
01:54:21.620 including
01:54:22.480 you know
01:54:22.780 he was despised
01:54:24.040 because
01:54:24.720 he was the only
01:54:25.740 guy from Wall Street
01:54:26.600 who had supported
01:54:27.240 Roosevelt
01:54:27.740 and if he'd had
01:54:29.520 anything like that
01:54:30.700 in his past
01:54:31.480 if his past
01:54:32.180 had not been
01:54:32.860 squeaky clean
01:54:33.820 he would have been
01:54:35.280 completely obliterated
01:54:36.900 in those Senate
01:54:37.480 confirmation hearings
01:54:38.500 which were at least
01:54:39.540 as vicious
01:54:40.040 as they are today
01:54:41.100 and he would never
01:54:43.160 have gotten the
01:54:43.680 appointment to
01:54:44.300 Great Britain
01:54:44.880 if he'd been a
01:54:45.580 bootlegger
01:54:46.260 the head of the SEC
01:54:47.340 he couldn't have
01:54:48.100 done that
01:54:48.440 and Roosevelt
01:54:48.980 asked him
01:54:49.860 is there anything
01:54:50.860 in your past
01:54:51.700 that you know
01:54:52.780 would come back
01:54:53.620 on us
01:54:54.320 because I'm terrified
01:54:55.120 about these hearings
01:54:56.100 and my grandfather
01:54:58.440 said I have never
01:54:59.300 done anything
01:55:00.100 that would
01:55:00.960 that would
01:55:02.160 that would
01:55:03.420 tar the name
01:55:04.480 or injure my reputation
01:55:05.880 because of my children
01:55:07.040 and but
01:55:08.660 his
01:55:09.540 you know
01:55:09.880 the best part
01:55:10.500 I used to go
01:55:11.400 horseback riding
01:55:12.440 with him every morning
01:55:13.420 he would take us
01:55:14.140 he was
01:55:14.480 he was extremely
01:55:15.500 punctual
01:55:16.140 if you were
01:55:17.800 one minute late
01:55:18.720 he would be gone
01:55:20.280 he would never
01:55:21.800 wait for anybody
01:55:22.520 and he would never
01:55:23.080 keep anybody waiting
01:55:24.040 and he would
01:55:26.120 when we went
01:55:27.220 to dinner
01:55:27.560 at his house
01:55:28.060 the families
01:55:28.960 all took turns
01:55:29.920 going to dinner
01:55:30.540 at his house
01:55:31.060 we all lived
01:55:31.760 in one compound
01:55:32.620 and he would
01:55:34.840 question us
01:55:35.640 he and my grandmother
01:55:36.380 would question us
01:55:37.320 on
01:55:37.660 they would
01:55:40.500 make us look
01:55:41.680 they had maps
01:55:42.460 of the whole world
01:55:43.180 on their wall
01:55:44.020 and they'd say
01:55:44.620 find Karachi
01:55:45.500 tell us
01:55:46.260 for Xantabar
01:55:46.940 they'd tell us
01:55:48.680 they'd ask us
01:55:50.100 about the roots
01:55:51.360 of words
01:55:52.080 they were Latin
01:55:53.320 or Greek
01:55:53.920 they would
01:55:55.120 ask us
01:55:56.580 to speak
01:55:57.460 Spanish
01:55:58.240 or French
01:55:58.740 my grandmother
01:56:00.380 would cut out
01:56:01.260 would write down
01:56:02.680 quotes
01:56:03.100 or take clippings
01:56:04.260 out of the newspaper
01:56:05.020 and she would
01:56:06.080 pin them to her 0.89
01:56:07.180 sweater
01:56:07.520 and then she would
01:56:08.360 take these long
01:56:09.060 walks with us
01:56:09.840 and pull the
01:56:10.500 pins off the sweater
01:56:11.540 and ask us
01:56:12.200 questions about it
01:56:13.200 and we were
01:56:14.720 constantly being
01:56:15.600 quizzed by them
01:56:17.000 and they were
01:56:17.400 constantly asking
01:56:18.380 us to argue
01:56:19.220 to make arguments
01:56:20.220 to take
01:56:21.760 positions
01:56:22.260 on issues
01:56:22.940 and it was
01:56:23.560 really
01:56:23.800 it was a magical
01:56:24.660 way to grow up
01:56:25.520 I love that
01:56:26.280 I love
01:56:26.660 is it true
01:56:27.500 the fact that
01:56:28.040 your grandfather
01:56:28.580 sat down
01:56:29.140 his son
01:56:29.500 and said
01:56:29.820 which one of you
01:56:30.440 guys are going
01:56:30.720 to be a president
01:56:31.220 first
01:56:31.620 was
01:56:32.000 no
01:56:32.360 of course not
01:56:34.220 and was it
01:56:35.520 encouraged
01:56:36.440 that's not the way
01:56:37.660 that he talked
01:56:38.280 to them
01:56:38.500 what he
01:56:39.100 what he tried
01:56:40.100 to do
01:56:40.560 is really
01:56:41.120 instill in them
01:56:42.400 a love
01:56:44.940 for public affairs
01:56:45.920 and a knowledge
01:56:46.680 about it
01:56:47.080 and he
01:56:47.420 he sent
01:56:48.080 he hated
01:56:50.180 Harold Lasky
01:56:51.880 who was
01:56:52.780 a very famous
01:56:54.220 communist
01:56:54.800 professor
01:56:56.040 at the London
01:56:57.000 School of Economics
01:56:57.920 and he
01:56:58.300 my uncle
01:56:59.100 I mean my grandfather
01:57:00.420 despised communism
01:57:01.620 but he sent
01:57:03.300 all of his kids
01:57:04.280 to study under Lasky
01:57:05.720 because he wanted
01:57:07.680 them to be able
01:57:08.760 to make up
01:57:09.200 their own minds
01:57:09.940 about life
01:57:10.620 and then he
01:57:11.420 you know
01:57:11.960 and he made sure
01:57:12.980 that they visited
01:57:13.820 that they became
01:57:15.820 they all became
01:57:16.480 journalists first
01:57:17.420 and so that they
01:57:18.520 could tour the world
01:57:19.400 that they could
01:57:19.920 speak to people
01:57:20.660 wherever he was
01:57:22.180 whether he was
01:57:23.620 in a cab
01:57:24.180 or whatever
01:57:24.640 he would always
01:57:25.620 be talking to people
01:57:26.640 and asking them
01:57:27.360 about their lives
01:57:28.240 and all of my
01:57:29.180 you know
01:57:30.180 that generation 0.76
01:57:31.060 was constantly
01:57:32.240 interrogating people
01:57:33.440 whether they were
01:57:34.120 fishmongers
01:57:35.060 or commercial fishmen
01:57:36.300 or cab drivers
01:57:38.700 you know
01:57:39.280 they
01:57:39.500 as soon as
01:57:40.460 they sat down
01:57:41.140 with somebody
01:57:41.640 they would be
01:57:42.140 asking questions
01:57:43.040 about him
01:57:43.460 so
01:57:43.760 my grandfather
01:57:45.680 you know
01:57:47.020 certainly
01:57:47.420 he grew up
01:57:48.360 in a political
01:57:48.920 family
01:57:49.440 his
01:57:50.880 his father
01:57:52.200 was
01:57:53.940 a state
01:57:55.360 senator
01:57:55.820 and he was
01:57:57.560 a political
01:57:58.160 leader
01:57:58.620 very respected
01:57:59.560 political leader
01:58:00.260 in Boston
01:58:00.700 very honest
01:58:01.620 honest man
01:58:02.460 P.J. Kennedy
01:58:03.240 whose grandparents
01:58:05.280 had come over
01:58:06.100 from Ireland
01:58:06.720 and the famine
01:58:07.360 and you know
01:58:09.300 the Irish
01:58:10.640 were just
01:58:11.120 breaking into
01:58:11.720 politics
01:58:12.260 in Boston
01:58:12.760 at that time
01:58:13.400 his father-in-law
01:58:14.380 my grandmother's
01:58:15.400 father
01:58:15.840 Honeyfist
01:58:16.540 was really
01:58:18.180 the first
01:58:18.840 Irish Catholic
01:58:19.620 mayor of Boston
01:58:20.620 his name was
01:58:21.560 Honeyfist
01:58:22.260 and he had
01:58:22.880 beautiful
01:58:23.400 he was called
01:58:24.240 Honeyfist
01:58:24.860 Fitzgerald
01:58:25.720 Honeyfist
01:58:26.940 because he had
01:58:27.460 a beautiful
01:58:27.940 Irish tenor
01:58:28.900 and he would
01:58:29.620 sing
01:58:30.100 at the crowds
01:58:30.980 he would
01:58:31.620 do these
01:58:33.280 torchlight parades
01:58:34.500 where they would
01:58:35.400 go out on a
01:58:36.040 flatbed truck
01:58:36.920 that was
01:58:37.360 hauled by mules
01:58:38.360 or by a truck
01:58:39.280 and there
01:58:40.520 would be
01:58:40.940 a piano
01:58:41.620 on it
01:58:42.140 and my
01:58:42.520 grandmother
01:58:43.020 you know
01:58:43.960 who was
01:58:44.660 a beautiful
01:58:45.240 pianist
01:58:45.880 when she was
01:58:46.580 a teen
01:58:47.000 would play
01:58:47.420 the piano
01:58:47.900 and he
01:58:48.320 would
01:58:48.500 sing
01:58:49.340 Sweet Adeline
01:58:50.060 to the crowds
01:58:50.980 and he
01:58:51.260 would gather
01:58:51.720 a big crowd
01:58:52.280 and they
01:58:52.680 would give
01:58:54.200 these speeches
01:58:54.880 but they
01:58:55.340 were
01:58:55.580 you know
01:58:56.000 so they
01:58:56.320 grew up
01:58:56.820 in a
01:58:57.100 political
01:58:57.500 milieu
01:58:57.940 and it
01:58:58.460 was at
01:58:58.740 a time
01:58:59.320 when
01:58:59.680 the Irish
01:59:01.360 when they
01:59:01.760 arrived
01:59:02.220 here
01:59:02.580 had been
01:59:03.100 forbidden
01:59:03.720 for 800
01:59:04.540 years
01:59:05.060 from
01:59:05.420 participating
01:59:06.100 in politics
01:59:06.960 and so
01:59:08.000 when they
01:59:08.340 arrived
01:59:08.880 on these
01:59:09.500 shores 0.53
01:59:09.840 they took
01:59:10.540 to politics
01:59:11.420 the way
01:59:11.900 that a
01:59:12.240 starving
01:59:12.740 man
01:59:13.620 takes
01:59:14.000 to food
01:59:14.520 and you
01:59:15.460 know
01:59:15.720 and that's
01:59:16.400 where they
01:59:17.680 they were
01:59:18.080 denied wealth
01:59:18.920 they were
01:59:19.220 denied entrance
01:59:20.200 into the big
01:59:20.720 clubs
01:59:21.180 and the one
01:59:21.800 thing that
01:59:22.280 they could
01:59:22.660 compete in
01:59:23.320 was their
01:59:24.080 religion
01:59:24.520 and their
01:59:24.980 politics
01:59:25.540 and that's
01:59:26.020 what they
01:59:26.320 did
01:59:26.580 you know
01:59:27.760 you seem
01:59:28.720 like the
01:59:29.020 type of
01:59:29.320 person that
01:59:29.760 does a lot
01:59:30.180 of due
01:59:30.400 diligence
01:59:30.740 and research
01:59:31.420 I was
01:59:31.920 I've always
01:59:32.440 been fascinated
01:59:33.100 with the
01:59:34.420 story of JFK
01:59:35.220 assassination
01:59:36.100 I've interviewed
01:59:36.960 Jim Jenkins
01:59:37.720 who was
01:59:38.300 one of the
01:59:38.780 autopsy folks
01:59:39.780 who was in
01:59:40.760 the room
01:59:41.100 I've sat
01:59:41.520 with Clint
01:59:42.040 Hill
01:59:42.320 which Clint
01:59:42.900 Hill
01:59:43.220 you obviously
01:59:44.360 know who
01:59:44.680 Clint Hill
01:59:45.120 is
01:59:45.400 and his
01:59:46.380 interview
01:59:46.880 with us
01:59:47.360 has around
01:59:47.740 4 million
01:59:48.260 views
01:59:48.700 sat down
01:59:49.960 with Abraham
01:59:50.500 Bolden
01:59:51.020 sat down
01:59:51.460 with several
01:59:52.140 different people
01:59:52.720 to talk about
01:59:53.420 that
01:59:53.700 over the
01:59:54.920 years
01:59:55.280 whether it's
01:59:56.140 you know
01:59:56.440 1968
01:59:57.240 with your
01:59:58.020 father
01:59:58.420 or your
01:59:58.880 uncle
01:59:59.260 I can only
02:00:01.180 imagine
02:00:01.740 you reading
02:00:02.540 pretty much
02:00:03.060 anything and
02:00:03.760 everything that
02:00:04.360 comes up
02:00:04.960 about that
02:00:05.480 topic
02:00:05.760 you know
02:00:06.080 it's one of
02:00:06.420 the most
02:00:06.580 talked about
02:00:07.060 topics around
02:00:07.640 the world
02:00:08.040 what conclusion
02:00:10.300 do you have
02:00:11.240 so far today
02:00:12.440 with what
02:00:13.460 happened both
02:00:14.100 with your
02:00:14.440 father and
02:00:15.000 your uncle
02:00:15.500 I have
02:00:17.600 spent a lot
02:00:18.620 of time
02:00:18.960 researching
02:00:19.460 and I
02:00:19.780 actually
02:00:20.320 got deep
02:00:21.540 into the
02:00:21.840 research
02:00:22.180 and actually
02:00:22.600 started
02:00:23.000 interviewing
02:00:23.600 people
02:00:24.280 for when
02:00:26.740 I wrote
02:00:27.080 my latest
02:00:28.100 book
02:00:28.420 American Values
02:00:29.380 I did
02:00:30.460 two chapters
02:00:31.120 on the
02:00:31.460 assassinations
02:00:32.520 and the last
02:00:33.160 minute I
02:00:33.540 left them out
02:00:34.140 but if
02:00:34.400 you read
02:00:34.760 the book
02:00:35.080 you can
02:00:35.380 see where
02:00:35.880 it's
02:00:36.080 going
02:00:36.460 and I
02:00:37.880 interviewed
02:00:38.220 people
02:00:38.880 who were
02:00:39.640 you know
02:00:40.360 who were
02:00:42.500 part of
02:00:43.080 a Cuban
02:00:43.960 CIA group
02:00:45.580 which is
02:00:46.500 clearly the
02:00:47.100 group
02:00:47.380 that was
02:00:48.060 that you
02:00:49.260 know
02:00:49.440 was involved
02:00:50.720 in my
02:00:51.240 uncle's
02:00:51.620 assassination
02:00:52.140 I interviewed
02:00:54.340 CIA officials
02:00:56.400 I interviewed
02:00:57.360 twice
02:00:58.320 I spent
02:01:00.340 time with
02:01:01.260 Fido Castro
02:01:02.040 talking about
02:01:02.980 him
02:01:03.260 and talking
02:01:04.640 because the
02:01:05.080 Cubans were 0.97
02:01:05.560 so deeply
02:01:06.180 involved
02:01:06.800 in
02:01:07.260 you know
02:01:09.180 the CIA
02:01:09.740 Cubans
02:01:10.400 the same
02:01:10.880 ones who
02:01:11.160 were trying
02:01:11.440 to kill
02:01:11.720 Castro
02:01:12.200 were the
02:01:13.660 ones
02:01:14.040 that division
02:01:15.080 that was
02:01:15.580 led by
02:01:16.020 David Atlee
02:01:16.660 Phillips
02:01:17.100 and Phillips
02:01:18.700 was a
02:01:20.120 CIA propagandist
02:01:23.440 he had been
02:01:24.020 involved in
02:01:24.860 the 1953
02:01:25.760 coup in
02:01:26.880 Guatemala
02:01:27.300 against Jacob
02:01:28.240 R.
02:01:28.500 Benz
02:01:28.840 he was
02:01:29.140 at the
02:01:29.420 Bay of
02:01:29.700 Pigs
02:01:30.040 he was
02:01:31.420 doing
02:01:31.620 propaganda
02:01:32.060 there
02:01:32.520 and then
02:01:32.860 he ran
02:01:33.520 the Cuban
02:01:34.620 sabotage
02:01:35.300 program
02:01:35.900 Alpha 66
02:01:36.840 these
02:01:37.620 you know
02:01:37.980 raiding
02:01:38.340 groups
02:01:38.740 and it
02:01:40.060 was people
02:01:40.460 from that
02:01:40.960 those teams
02:01:42.300 that you
02:01:43.020 know
02:01:43.140 were the
02:01:43.600 team
02:01:44.160 that was
02:01:45.200 involved
02:01:45.560 in the
02:01:45.800 assassination
02:01:46.320 Lee Harvey
02:01:47.220 Oswald
02:01:47.800 he was
02:01:48.660 also
02:01:49.340 Lee Harvey
02:01:50.940 Oswald's
02:01:51.600 case
02:01:51.900 officer
02:01:52.560 David
02:01:53.600 Atlee
02:01:53.940 Phillips
02:01:54.300 originally
02:01:54.860 Lee Harvey
02:01:55.440 Oswald
02:01:56.100 had worked
02:01:56.660 directly
02:01:57.180 for
02:01:57.700 James
02:01:58.180 Jesus
02:01:58.580 Angleton
02:01:59.140 who was
02:01:59.600 the
02:01:59.740 counter
02:01:59.980 intelligent
02:02:00.460 so
02:02:00.880 Lee Harvey
02:02:02.380 Oswald
02:02:02.920 had been
02:02:03.400 a
02:02:03.820 radar
02:02:05.380 operator
02:02:06.120 at
02:02:06.700 the
02:02:06.920 Atsui
02:02:07.420 Air Force
02:02:08.460 base
02:02:08.980 in
02:02:09.420 Japan
02:02:11.000 and that's
02:02:12.000 where the
02:02:12.460 U-2 flights
02:02:13.440 had taken
02:02:13.820 off
02:02:14.080 so he had
02:02:14.540 very high
02:02:15.380 security
02:02:16.060 post
02:02:17.380 top secret
02:02:18.080 he
02:02:20.080 defected
02:02:21.880 to the
02:02:22.120 Soviet
02:02:22.380 unit
02:02:22.740 in 1957
02:02:23.620 and
02:02:25.060 and then
02:02:26.260 but his
02:02:26.940 defection
02:02:27.460 was what
02:02:28.420 they called
02:02:29.020 a dangle
02:02:30.120 it wasn't
02:02:30.900 a real
02:02:31.220 defection
02:02:31.760 he was
02:02:32.320 actually
02:02:32.740 a CIA
02:02:33.380 asset
02:02:33.940 from that
02:02:34.560 time
02:02:34.960 and he
02:02:36.420 was working
02:02:36.900 for Angleton
02:02:37.560 and the
02:02:38.040 reason for
02:02:39.040 his defection
02:02:39.740 was that
02:02:40.420 Angleton
02:02:41.080 that there
02:02:41.620 was a mole
02:02:42.300 in Langley
02:02:43.120 that they
02:02:43.580 never found
02:02:44.420 and it's
02:02:44.780 the reason
02:02:45.280 they never
02:02:45.780 had a good
02:02:46.260 spy in
02:02:46.840 Russia
02:02:47.160 because as
02:02:48.400 soon as
02:02:48.800 they got
02:02:49.280 somebody who
02:02:49.860 defected
02:02:50.460 he'd
02:02:50.680 immediately
02:02:51.040 get killed 0.81
02:02:51.660 because there
02:02:52.080 was somebody
02:02:52.500 in Langley
02:02:53.160 telling
02:02:53.760 Angleton
02:02:54.580 who ran
02:02:55.260 that division
02:02:56.020 counterintelligence
02:02:56.860 which was
02:02:57.240 supposed to
02:02:58.300 trap
02:02:58.740 Russian spies
02:02:59.660 recruited
02:03:01.560 Oswald
02:03:02.400 to make
02:03:04.540 a fake
02:03:04.960 defection
02:03:05.440 to Russia
02:03:05.940 because he
02:03:06.680 believed
02:03:07.140 he had
02:03:08.140 his file
02:03:08.860 on a trigger
02:03:09.840 at Langley
02:03:10.780 and they
02:03:12.300 assumed
02:03:12.740 that the KGB
02:03:13.600 would be
02:03:14.080 wondering
02:03:14.400 who is
02:03:15.000 this guy
02:03:15.520 is he
02:03:16.040 real
02:03:16.400 and that
02:03:16.960 they would
02:03:17.340 contact
02:03:17.840 the mole
02:03:18.200 at Langley
02:03:18.800 and say
02:03:19.220 go pull
02:03:19.820 his file
02:03:20.460 and tell
02:03:20.880 us what
02:03:21.180 it says
02:03:21.660 so he
02:03:22.340 had a
02:03:22.940 trigger
02:03:23.240 system
02:03:23.660 and eyes
02:03:24.340 on that
02:03:24.760 file
02:03:25.140 so that
02:03:25.540 he would
02:03:25.860 know
02:03:26.260 if somebody
02:03:27.620 pulled it
02:03:28.000 and he'd
02:03:28.220 know that
02:03:28.540 that was
02:03:28.900 the mole
02:03:29.360 it never
02:03:30.860 happened
02:03:31.280 and so
02:03:32.440 Oswald
02:03:33.660 was recalled
02:03:34.400 from Moscow
02:03:36.140 three years
02:03:36.720 later
02:03:36.920 by then
02:03:37.420 he'd already
02:03:38.040 married
02:03:38.640 the daughter
02:03:39.700 of a KGB 0.51
02:03:40.560 colonel
02:03:41.200 and you know
02:03:41.820 he came back
02:03:42.340 here with
02:03:42.680 Marina
02:03:43.040 he was
02:03:43.640 met at the
02:03:44.360 airport
02:03:44.700 never interrogated
02:03:46.140 by the
02:03:46.420 he was
02:03:46.800 given money
02:03:47.480 to return
02:03:47.980 by the
02:03:48.400 state department
02:03:48.940 six hundred
02:03:49.540 dollars
02:03:50.000 he flew to
02:03:51.800 Dallas
02:03:52.120 he was met
02:03:53.020 by CIA
02:03:53.880 agents
02:03:54.860 or assets
02:03:55.680 in Dallas
02:03:56.180 who then
02:03:56.780 took care of
02:03:57.500 him
02:03:57.740 who ended up
02:03:58.620 getting him
02:03:59.040 the job
02:03:59.400 at the
02:03:59.640 book depository
02:04:00.640 who took care
02:04:02.520 of him
02:04:02.740 through all
02:04:03.120 of his
02:04:03.400 sojourns
02:04:04.720 but the whole
02:04:05.720 time he was
02:04:06.460 reporting to
02:04:07.080 two men
02:04:07.580 David Johanides
02:04:08.580 who was
02:04:10.740 who ended up
02:04:11.500 being the
02:04:11.800 liaison
02:04:12.260 with the
02:04:12.880 Warren
02:04:13.120 Commission
02:04:13.540 and his
02:04:15.120 job was
02:04:15.560 just to
02:04:15.880 hide
02:04:16.160 stuff
02:04:16.560 and of
02:04:17.240 course
02:04:17.560 Alan
02:04:18.400 Dulles
02:04:18.880 who was
02:04:19.320 the head
02:04:19.600 of the CIA
02:04:20.160 that my
02:04:20.660 uncle had
02:04:21.220 fired
02:04:21.700 and who
02:04:22.580 was the
02:04:22.880 chief
02:04:23.060 suspect
02:04:23.560 of the
02:04:23.920 assassination
02:04:24.600 ran the
02:04:25.960 Warren
02:04:26.180 Commission
02:04:26.600 got himself
02:04:27.280 appointed
02:04:27.700 to it
02:04:28.160 and ran
02:04:28.660 to hide
02:04:29.400 the CIA's
02:04:30.180 involvement
02:04:30.620 but Oswald
02:04:33.000 was
02:04:33.780 you know
02:04:34.660 was a
02:04:35.080 pro-Kennedy
02:04:35.820 guy
02:04:36.300 loved my
02:04:36.980 uncle
02:04:37.440 and you
02:04:38.180 know
02:04:38.360 was really
02:04:39.460 kind of
02:04:40.040 misused
02:04:41.680 by David
02:04:42.640 Athley Phillips
02:04:43.360 and the CIA
02:04:43.940 and I
02:04:45.380 spoke to
02:04:46.360 Cubans
02:04:47.400 who met
02:04:47.880 Oswald
02:04:48.660 and met
02:04:51.100 him with
02:04:51.600 David Athley
02:04:52.200 Phillips
02:04:52.520 and you
02:04:53.560 know
02:04:53.720 I think
02:04:54.600 it's
02:04:54.840 you know
02:04:55.640 at the
02:04:56.040 time
02:04:56.280 the
02:04:56.440 Warren
02:04:56.740 Commission
02:04:57.240 they were
02:04:58.880 able to
02:04:59.300 hide
02:04:59.540 the CIA
02:05:00.040 involvement
02:05:00.620 but by
02:05:01.180 75
02:05:02.640 when they
02:05:03.840 you know
02:05:04.240 Hart's
02:05:04.640 committee
02:05:04.900 met
02:05:05.260 they
02:05:05.680 made the
02:05:06.220 conclusion
02:05:06.740 that yeah
02:05:07.320 it was a
02:05:08.100 conspiracy
02:05:08.700 and the
02:05:10.200 actually
02:05:10.860 the
02:05:11.400 staff
02:05:13.220 for
02:05:14.540 that
02:05:15.160 committee
02:05:15.620 all
02:05:16.220 concluded
02:05:17.260 that it
02:05:17.600 was the
02:05:17.900 CIA
02:05:18.260 that had
02:05:18.960 done
02:05:19.260 and I
02:05:19.640 think
02:05:19.860 now
02:05:20.440 we have
02:05:21.100 so much
02:05:21.760 evidence
02:05:22.200 and so
02:05:22.560 much
02:05:22.820 documentation
02:05:23.760 that it
02:05:24.360 really
02:05:25.120 would be
02:05:26.140 almost
02:05:26.800 crazy
02:05:27.320 to think
02:05:28.100 that they
02:05:28.500 were not
02:05:29.080 you know
02:05:30.040 behind it
02:05:30.900 in terms
02:05:31.680 of my
02:05:31.920 dad
02:05:32.220 I never
02:05:32.660 believed
02:05:33.060 that there
02:05:33.420 was
02:05:33.600 conspiracy
02:05:34.300 I always
02:05:34.960 believed
02:05:35.420 that Sir
02:05:37.160 Anne
02:05:37.400 had acted
02:05:37.840 alone
02:05:38.260 there was
02:05:39.420 so much
02:05:39.820 evidence
02:05:40.300 against him
02:05:41.040 his diaries
02:05:41.920 and
02:05:42.460 everything
02:05:43.500 else
02:05:44.060 and
02:05:45.460 there were
02:05:46.240 77
02:05:46.700 eyewitnesses
02:05:48.100 to him
02:05:49.280 shooting
02:05:49.760 my dad
02:05:50.180 but then
02:05:50.740 you know
02:05:51.060 when I
02:05:51.340 started
02:05:51.560 talking
02:05:51.980 to
02:05:52.120 people
02:05:52.440 I
02:05:52.700 realized
02:05:53.140 there
02:05:53.500 was
02:05:53.680 a lot
02:05:54.180 of
02:05:54.940 there
02:05:56.540 were
02:05:56.620 a lot
02:05:56.820 of
02:05:56.920 problems
02:05:57.320 with
02:05:57.480 the
02:05:57.600 story
02:05:57.880 Oswald
02:05:58.500 could not
02:06:00.160 have shot
02:06:00.500 my father
02:06:01.100 Oswald
02:06:01.780 we know
02:06:02.400 what happened
02:06:02.760 to all
02:06:02.980 of his
02:06:03.220 bullets
02:06:03.620 Oswald
02:06:04.380 was
02:06:05.860 at the
02:06:07.360 closest
02:06:07.760 of five
02:06:08.540 feet
02:06:08.760 from my
02:06:09.120 father
02:06:09.520 his hand
02:06:10.420 his body
02:06:11.600 was
02:06:12.080 eight feet
02:06:13.200 that's the
02:06:14.600 closest
02:06:14.980 and he
02:06:15.620 fired
02:06:16.160 two shots
02:06:16.980 Sirhan
02:06:17.640 Sirhan
02:06:18.300 sorry
02:06:18.580 Sirhan met
02:06:19.900 my father
02:06:20.480 in the
02:06:20.780 ambassador
02:06:21.160 hotel
02:06:21.520 kitchen
02:06:21.940 and he
02:06:22.200 was
02:06:22.360 standing
02:06:22.660 on the
02:06:22.880 other
02:06:23.100 side
02:06:23.560 of a
02:06:24.520 steam
02:06:25.100 table
02:06:25.460 my father
02:06:27.200 walked
02:06:27.500 toward him
02:06:27.980 he fired
02:06:29.340 two shots
02:06:30.160 at my
02:06:30.700 father
02:06:31.020 one of
02:06:31.460 those shots
02:06:32.120 hit
02:06:32.460 Paul Schrade
02:06:33.200 who was
02:06:33.640 a labor
02:06:33.960 organizer
02:06:34.540 for my
02:06:34.960 father
02:06:35.280 in the
02:06:35.580 head
02:06:35.860 all is
02:06:37.220 alive
02:06:37.540 today
02:06:37.880 and very
02:06:38.280 close
02:06:38.620 friends
02:06:39.020 and has
02:06:39.300 been
02:06:39.480 trying
02:06:40.020 for 20
02:06:40.980 years
02:06:41.260 to get
02:06:41.600 Sirhan
02:06:42.160 out of
02:06:42.420 jail
02:06:42.700 because
02:06:42.920 he knows
02:06:43.300 he's
02:06:43.520 innocent
02:06:43.800 and he
02:06:45.040 is the
02:06:45.360 one
02:06:45.580 who
02:06:45.760 forced
02:06:46.420 me
02:06:46.700 to sit
02:06:47.120 down
02:06:47.420 and look
02:06:47.720 at the
02:06:47.940 evidence
02:06:48.320 of the
02:06:48.740 autopsy
02:06:49.320 report
02:06:49.700 etc
02:06:50.000 the other
02:06:52.200 bullet
02:06:52.460 that he
02:06:52.760 fired
02:06:53.100 toward
02:06:53.380 my
02:06:53.800 father
02:06:54.180 went
02:06:54.460 past
02:06:55.460 my
02:06:55.680 father's
02:06:56.140 ear
02:06:56.460 and landed
02:06:57.140 in the
02:06:57.460 doorjamb
02:06:58.020 and was
02:06:58.380 extracted
02:06:58.980 from the
02:06:59.520 doorjamb
02:07:00.020 so we
02:07:00.420 know what
02:07:00.700 happened
02:07:00.900 to those
02:07:01.140 two bullets
02:07:01.540 as soon
02:07:01.980 as he
02:07:02.240 fired
02:07:02.560 those
02:07:02.960 there was
02:07:04.220 a dog
02:07:04.600 pile on
02:07:05.520 by Rosie
02:07:06.560 Greer
02:07:06.980 and
02:07:07.220 Rayford
02:07:08.540 Johnson
02:07:09.060 and
02:07:09.600 the
02:07:10.980 concierge
02:07:14.600 for the
02:07:14.880 hotel
02:07:15.360 a whole
02:07:17.040 bunch
02:07:17.240 of people
02:07:17.520 grabbed
02:07:17.980 him
02:07:18.120 and the
02:07:18.340 first
02:07:18.580 thing
02:07:18.740 they did
02:07:19.080 this point
02:07:19.700 hit
02:07:19.900 was
02:07:20.000 getting
02:07:20.180 away
02:07:20.580 from
02:07:20.800 my
02:07:21.000 father
02:07:21.360 in the
02:07:22.100 opposite
02:07:22.400 direction
02:07:23.000 but they
02:07:23.780 couldn't
02:07:24.120 get it
02:07:24.360 away
02:07:24.600 from him
02:07:25.280 and
02:07:26.500 Sirhan
02:07:26.860 fired
02:07:27.340 six
02:07:28.020 other
02:07:28.600 shots
02:07:29.060 and
02:07:29.360 emptied
02:07:29.700 the
02:07:29.860 chamber
02:07:30.120 it
02:07:30.340 was
02:07:30.380 an
02:07:30.920 eight
02:07:31.100 shot
02:07:31.300 revolver
02:07:31.960 and
02:07:33.460 every
02:07:34.240 one
02:07:34.420 of those
02:07:34.660 shots
02:07:35.000 hit
02:07:35.240 somebody
02:07:35.640 so we
02:07:36.180 know
02:07:36.340 what
02:07:36.480 happened
02:07:36.760 to
02:07:36.880 all
02:07:37.020 of them
02:07:37.760 there's
02:07:38.840 two
02:07:39.040 shots
02:07:39.360 that
02:07:39.600 way
02:07:39.780 we
02:07:39.940 know
02:07:40.120 what
02:07:40.280 happened
02:07:40.600 and
02:07:40.940 there
02:07:41.040 were
02:07:41.160 six
02:07:41.380 shots
02:07:41.620 the
02:07:41.740 other
02:07:41.880 way
02:07:42.100 my
02:07:42.640 father
02:07:43.160 was
02:07:44.540 killed
02:07:44.860 by
02:07:45.100 four
02:07:45.380 shots
02:07:45.780 from
02:07:46.600 behind
02:07:47.100 and
02:07:48.560 all
02:07:48.960 according
02:07:49.420 to
02:07:49.640 Thomas
02:07:49.960 Noguchi's
02:07:50.520 autopsy
02:07:51.160 Thomas
02:07:51.480 Noguchi
02:07:51.820 never
02:07:52.120 believes
02:07:52.520 Sirhan
02:07:52.900 killed
02:07:53.180 and
02:07:53.420 he's
02:07:53.640 the
02:07:53.760 greatest
02:07:54.280 coroner
02:07:55.580 in
02:07:55.960 history
02:07:56.800 he
02:07:58.920 said
02:08:00.520 every
02:08:00.960 one
02:08:01.180 of
02:08:01.260 those
02:08:01.440 shots
02:08:01.860 left
02:08:02.760 tattoo
02:08:03.680 on
02:08:04.820 my
02:08:04.980 dad
02:08:05.280 so
02:08:05.480 they
02:08:05.680 were
02:08:05.840 all
02:08:06.160 contact
02:08:06.540 shots
02:08:06.860 the
02:08:07.060 barrel
02:08:07.400 of
02:08:07.520 the
02:08:07.600 gun
02:08:07.780 was
02:08:07.940 actually
02:08:08.340 touching
02:08:08.820 my
02:08:09.080 father
02:08:09.520 when
02:08:11.000 the
02:08:11.320 killer
02:08:11.780 killed
02:08:12.380 him
02:08:12.540 and
02:08:12.880 so
02:08:13.300 what
02:08:13.860 clearly
02:08:14.300 happening
02:08:14.760 is
02:08:15.200 Sirhan
02:08:15.760 was
02:08:16.120 a
02:08:16.360 distractor
02:08:17.080 he
02:08:18.680 was
02:08:18.880 firing
02:08:19.300 the
02:08:19.540 shots
02:08:19.800 he
02:08:20.000 had
02:08:20.280 no
02:08:20.500 memory
02:08:20.820 of
02:08:21.040 it
02:08:21.540 virtually
02:08:22.760 everybody
02:08:23.300 who's
02:08:23.540 interviewed
02:08:23.820 him
02:08:24.060 believed
02:08:24.340 that
02:08:24.580 he
02:08:24.860 was
02:08:25.300 under
02:08:25.700 some
02:08:26.060 kind
02:08:26.360 of
02:08:26.500 hypnosis
02:08:27.080 he
02:08:28.760 fired
02:08:29.100 the
02:08:29.300 shots
02:08:29.780 and
02:08:30.360 while
02:08:30.840 people
02:08:31.120 were
02:08:31.280 looking
02:08:31.720 focused
02:08:32.160 on
02:08:32.400 him
02:08:32.680 another
02:08:34.380 person
02:08:35.000 fired
02:08:35.740 four
02:08:36.040 shots
02:08:36.300 from
02:08:36.480 behind
02:08:36.800 one
02:08:37.140 went
02:08:37.420 through
02:08:37.740 harmlessly
02:08:38.380 through
02:08:38.760 the
02:08:39.040 shoulder
02:08:39.700 pad
02:08:40.100 of
02:08:40.360 his
02:08:40.560 suit
02:08:40.820 and
02:08:41.040 the
02:08:41.220 two
02:08:41.620 went
02:08:41.840 to
02:08:41.980 his
02:08:42.120 back
02:08:42.400 and
02:08:42.700 one
02:08:42.720 went
02:08:43.180 into
02:08:43.340 his
02:08:43.600 head
02:08:43.880 and
02:08:44.800 in
02:08:44.900 every
02:08:45.220 case
02:08:45.660 the
02:08:45.900 gun
02:08:46.060 was
02:08:46.260 touching
02:08:46.540 him
02:08:46.700 now
02:08:46.920 the
02:08:47.920 person
02:08:49.500 who
02:08:49.760 almost
02:08:50.320 certainly
02:08:50.760 fired
02:08:51.180 those
02:08:51.440 shots
02:08:51.820 was
02:08:52.180 a man
02:08:52.500 called
02:08:52.760 Eugene
02:08:53.120 Cesar
02:08:53.840 who
02:08:55.620 was
02:08:56.000 a
02:08:56.540 he
02:08:57.340 worked
02:08:57.660 at
02:08:57.860 Lockheed
02:08:58.540 he
02:08:58.720 had
02:08:58.860 gotten
02:08:59.160 the
02:08:59.540 job
02:08:59.900 to be
02:09:02.180 a
02:09:02.340 security
02:09:02.640 guard
02:09:02.960 three
02:09:03.760 days
02:09:04.060 before
02:09:04.520 he
02:09:05.060 worked
02:09:05.400 at
02:09:05.560 Lockheed
02:09:06.380 as
02:09:07.080 a
02:09:07.700 high
02:09:08.160 security
02:09:08.600 job
02:09:09.080 he
02:09:09.520 was
02:09:09.840 as it
02:09:10.200 turns
02:09:10.440 out
02:09:10.740 a
02:09:10.940 CIA
02:09:11.320 agent
02:09:12.560 and
02:09:14.660 he
02:09:16.300 admitted
02:09:20.320 he
02:09:20.640 was
02:09:20.820 seeing
02:09:21.280 my
02:09:21.980 father
02:09:22.320 when he
02:09:22.720 fell
02:09:23.040 onto
02:09:23.980 Cesar
02:09:24.440 and
02:09:26.100 as
02:09:26.560 he
02:09:26.680 was
02:09:26.820 falling
02:09:27.120 he
02:09:27.320 turned
02:09:27.620 around
02:09:27.920 and he
02:09:28.200 tore
02:09:28.420 off
02:09:28.680 Cesar's
02:09:29.160 clip
02:09:29.380 on
02:09:29.640 tie
02:09:29.960 so
02:09:30.520 if
02:09:30.660 you
02:09:30.760 see
02:09:31.040 pictures
02:09:31.540 of
02:09:31.660 my
02:09:31.800 father
02:09:32.120 lying
02:09:32.460 on
02:09:32.600 the
02:09:32.720 ground
02:09:33.000 he
02:09:33.240 has
02:09:33.480 that
02:09:33.660 clip
02:09:33.880 on
02:09:34.080 tie
02:09:34.340 in
02:09:34.500 his
02:09:34.660 hand
02:09:34.980 and
02:09:36.920 Cesar
02:09:37.560 says
02:09:38.800 that
02:09:39.320 my
02:09:40.380 father
02:09:40.640 fell
02:09:40.960 on
02:09:41.240 him
02:09:41.460 he
02:09:41.840 drew
02:09:42.060 his
02:09:42.280 gun
02:09:42.640 he
02:09:43.840 said
02:09:44.080 he
02:09:44.200 drew
02:09:44.380 his
02:09:44.580 gun
02:09:44.860 when
02:09:45.280 he
02:09:46.600 saw
02:09:46.960 he
02:09:47.500 changed
02:09:47.920 the
02:09:48.100 story
02:09:48.300 many
02:09:48.620 times
02:09:49.000 about
02:09:49.240 when
02:09:49.460 he
02:09:49.580 drew
02:09:49.740 his
02:09:49.900 gun
02:09:50.100 but
02:09:50.320 when
02:09:50.580 he
02:09:50.780 stood
02:09:51.140 up
02:09:51.620 he
02:09:53.220 had
02:09:53.480 the
02:09:53.620 gun
02:09:53.820 out
02:09:54.220 the
02:09:54.880 police
02:09:55.220 never
02:09:55.540 questioned
02:09:56.000 him
02:09:56.280 at
02:09:56.440 that
02:09:56.640 time
02:09:56.900 and
02:09:57.020 they
02:09:57.140 never
02:09:57.360 took
02:09:57.600 his
02:09:57.760 gun
02:09:57.960 away
02:09:58.220 he
02:09:58.480 later
02:09:58.940 sold
02:10:01.020 the
02:10:01.180 gun
02:10:01.460 to
02:10:02.580 another
02:10:02.860 guy
02:10:03.380 at
02:10:03.540 Lockheed
02:10:04.180 and
02:10:04.500 that
02:10:04.660 gun
02:10:04.920 has
02:10:05.760 been
02:10:05.920 tracked
02:10:06.200 down
02:10:06.520 since
02:10:06.900 the
02:10:07.280 bullets
02:10:08.020 that
02:10:08.760 came
02:10:10.040 from
02:10:10.260 Sirhan's
02:10:10.880 gun
02:10:11.180 none
02:10:11.660 of them
02:10:11.960 matched
02:10:12.260 the
02:10:12.480 bullets
02:10:12.800 that
02:10:13.040 were
02:10:13.180 in
02:10:13.320 my
02:10:13.520 father
02:10:13.880 oh
02:10:15.300 you
02:10:15.660 know
02:10:15.820 it's
02:10:16.180 impossible
02:10:16.760 that
02:10:17.040 Sirhan
02:10:17.480 told
02:10:17.720 my
02:10:17.920 father
02:10:18.260 and
02:10:18.820 Eugene
02:10:21.140 Thames
02:10:21.540 Cesar
02:10:21.900 I was
02:10:22.400 in
02:10:22.580 negotiations
02:10:23.300 with
02:10:23.720 him
02:10:24.080 you
02:10:25.620 know
02:10:25.800 three
02:10:26.240 months
02:10:26.620 ago
02:10:26.960 to
02:10:27.240 go
02:10:27.400 over
02:10:27.600 to
02:10:27.680 the
02:10:27.780 Philippines
02:10:28.160 to
02:10:28.480 meet
02:10:28.700 with
02:10:28.900 him
02:10:29.040 but
02:10:29.180 he
02:10:29.300 wanted
02:10:29.540 to
02:10:29.740 charge
02:10:29.980 me
02:10:30.160 $20,000
02:10:30.940 for
02:10:32.020 that
02:10:32.400 interview
02:10:33.000 and
02:10:34.080 he
02:10:34.700 died
02:10:35.200 at
02:10:36.480 time
02:10:37.340 the
02:10:40.820 motivation
02:10:41.720 Robert
02:10:42.720 was the
02:10:43.140 motivation
02:10:43.600 you think
02:10:44.200 what I
02:10:45.340 hear is
02:10:45.700 the fact
02:10:46.060 that your
02:10:46.500 grandfather
02:10:47.060 was so
02:10:47.620 furious
02:10:47.920 what happened
02:10:48.380 to John
02:10:48.640 F.
02:10:48.860 Kennedy
02:10:49.040 he wanted
02:10:49.560 your father
02:10:50.220 to become
02:10:50.660 a president
02:10:51.120 so they
02:10:51.460 can investigate
02:10:52.100 the CIA
02:10:52.820 is there
02:10:53.780 any truth
02:10:54.360 behind that
02:10:54.980 because
02:10:55.900 that's
02:10:56.400 ridiculous
02:10:57.360 because
02:10:59.700 first of
02:11:02.260 all
02:11:02.620 my
02:11:03.060 grandfather
02:11:05.340 was
02:11:07.060 had a
02:11:09.880 stroke
02:11:10.460 in 1963
02:11:13.020 and he
02:11:15.760 was
02:11:16.040 essentially
02:11:16.680 non-communicative
02:11:18.120 so he
02:11:20.360 even when
02:11:22.320 my uncle
02:11:22.900 was killed
02:11:23.500 he was
02:11:24.160 my grandfather
02:11:24.980 was already
02:11:25.840 in a wheelchair
02:11:27.200 unable to speak
02:11:28.340 oh no
02:11:29.380 my father
02:11:30.740 you know
02:11:33.200 when he ran
02:11:33.840 for president
02:11:34.260 I'm sure
02:11:34.760 that
02:11:35.020 listen
02:11:35.940 my father
02:11:36.520 was
02:11:36.900 the best
02:11:39.200 investigator
02:11:39.940 of his age
02:11:41.600 he had brought
02:11:43.660 down the mafia
02:11:44.320 when he was
02:11:45.020 on the senate
02:11:45.740 he was the chief
02:11:46.420 counsel of the
02:11:47.040 senate rackets
02:11:47.600 committee
02:11:47.780 he was the
02:11:48.560 Robert Mueller
02:11:49.520 of his time
02:11:50.260 times ten
02:11:50.980 he had brought
02:11:52.900 down
02:11:53.400 you know
02:11:53.900 the
02:11:54.300 teamsters
02:11:55.680 union
02:11:56.080 and the
02:11:56.560 bakers union
02:11:57.180 and all
02:11:57.620 of these
02:11:57.960 for corruption
02:11:58.680 he had
02:11:59.460 you know
02:11:59.860 he was the
02:12:00.340 first person
02:12:00.980 to seriously
02:12:01.580 prosecute
02:12:02.300 the mafia
02:12:03.960 and then
02:12:04.660 he had become
02:12:05.300 the attorney
02:12:05.760 general
02:12:06.220 and he was
02:12:06.900 at that time
02:12:07.920 in a
02:12:08.660 day-to-day
02:12:09.360 battle
02:12:09.740 with the CIA
02:12:10.420 you can read
02:12:11.180 all about
02:12:11.600 this in my
02:12:12.120 book
02:12:12.380 American Values
02:12:13.220 because the
02:12:13.580 CIA
02:12:13.900 headquarters
02:12:15.800 in Langley
02:12:16.420 was only
02:12:17.180 a half a mile
02:12:17.880 from my house
02:12:18.620 and so
02:12:19.120 we had
02:12:19.920 all the
02:12:20.500 Cubans
02:12:21.040 in our
02:12:22.160 house
02:12:22.460 constantly
02:12:23.040 CIA agents
02:12:24.240 I grew up
02:12:25.860 surrounded by
02:12:26.560 KGB agents
02:12:27.600 CIA agents
02:12:28.600 Cubans
02:12:29.200 special forces
02:12:30.720 repelling off
02:12:31.540 the roof
02:12:31.840 of our house
02:12:32.360 and my
02:12:33.720 father would
02:12:34.340 stop at the
02:12:35.080 CIA
02:12:35.440 every morning
02:12:36.940 and they
02:12:37.280 hated him
02:12:37.820 there
02:12:38.120 on his way
02:12:39.780 to work
02:12:40.120 at the
02:12:40.340 Justice
02:12:40.600 Department
02:12:41.120 and you
02:12:41.860 know
02:12:41.940 the last
02:12:42.440 thing
02:12:42.700 I think
02:12:43.080 they probably
02:12:43.580 wanted
02:12:43.980 was for him
02:12:44.680 to be
02:12:44.900 President
02:12:45.160 of the
02:12:45.300 United
02:12:45.520 States
02:12:45.800 about
02:12:46.140 two weeks
02:12:48.100 before
02:12:48.580 he died
02:12:49.280 when he
02:12:50.280 realized
02:12:50.780 it became
02:12:51.720 clear that
02:12:52.140 he was
02:12:52.360 going to
02:12:52.580 win in
02:12:52.940 California
02:12:53.500 and if
02:12:54.780 he won
02:12:55.060 in California
02:12:55.680 he would
02:12:56.520 win
02:12:56.940 he had
02:12:58.280 a clear
02:12:58.620 view
02:12:58.920 he had
02:12:59.220 already
02:12:59.480 beaten
02:12:59.840 Humphrey
02:13:00.420 in 60
02:13:01.040 he ran
02:13:01.640 my uncle's
02:13:02.240 campaign
02:13:02.540 he had
02:13:02.860 already
02:13:03.040 beaten
02:13:03.320 Nixon
02:13:03.660 he knew
02:13:04.060 how to
02:13:04.280 beat
02:13:04.420 those
02:13:04.680 guys
02:13:04.980 and
02:13:05.140 those
02:13:05.320 would
02:13:05.400 be
02:13:05.540 the
02:13:05.580 only
02:13:05.780 two
02:13:06.020 guys
02:13:06.340 who
02:13:06.500 stood
02:13:06.700 in
02:13:06.980 the
02:13:07.400 lighthouse
02:13:07.680 oh
02:13:09.400 and
02:13:09.720 you know
02:13:10.260 the country
02:13:10.740 wanted him
02:13:11.300 he was
02:13:11.520 enormous
02:13:11.960 and popular
02:13:12.560 his brother
02:13:13.200 was a
02:13:13.780 martyr
02:13:14.200 and beloved
02:13:15.140 and you
02:13:16.040 know
02:13:16.240 he would
02:13:17.400 have won
02:13:17.760 he was
02:13:19.680 asked at
02:13:20.420 that point
02:13:21.060 he had been
02:13:21.680 asked many
02:13:22.300 times
02:13:22.900 what he thought
02:13:23.840 of the
02:13:24.060 Warren Commission
02:13:24.740 whether he
02:13:25.400 would reopen
02:13:25.940 it
02:13:26.220 and he
02:13:26.480 had always
02:13:27.020 dodged
02:13:27.620 the question
02:13:28.180 and although
02:13:29.880 he privately
02:13:30.900 believed
02:13:31.360 the CIA
02:13:32.080 had killed
02:13:32.880 his brother
02:13:33.380 he publicly
02:13:35.460 would never
02:13:36.040 say there was
02:13:36.680 anything wrong
02:13:37.320 with the
02:13:37.580 Warren Commission
02:13:38.200 but two weeks
02:13:39.360 before
02:13:39.900 he was
02:13:40.400 at
02:13:40.720 I think
02:13:41.240 Los Angeles
02:13:44.420 Community
02:13:44.940 College
02:13:45.460 there's a
02:13:47.120 tape of him
02:13:47.740 where a
02:13:48.480 student
02:13:48.880 asked him
02:13:49.740 if you're
02:13:50.700 elected
02:13:51.060 president
02:13:51.500 will you
02:13:52.080 reopen
02:13:52.580 the Warren
02:13:53.000 Commission
02:13:53.420 and there
02:13:54.080 was a
02:13:54.380 long
02:13:54.780 pause
02:13:55.360 and then
02:13:57.160 he quietly
02:13:57.720 says yes
02:13:58.560 and I
02:13:59.780 think that
02:14:00.380 would have
02:14:01.160 scared the
02:14:01.720 hell out
02:14:02.300 of a
02:14:03.340 lot of
02:14:03.600 people
02:14:03.880 wow
02:14:05.820 I wish
02:14:07.640 we had
02:14:07.880 another hour
02:14:08.300 together
02:14:08.740 but look
02:14:09.740 we're at
02:14:10.040 the end
02:14:10.300 of it
02:14:10.480 and I
02:14:10.700 appreciate
02:14:10.980 you sharing
02:14:11.420 with us
02:14:11.920 the tail
02:14:12.500 end of it
02:14:12.900 the last
02:14:13.540 part of
02:14:13.860 speed run
02:14:14.320 I'll give
02:14:14.680 you a name
02:14:15.120 just tell
02:14:15.480 me the
02:14:15.720 first thing
02:14:16.080 that comes
02:14:16.420 to your
02:14:16.680 mind
02:14:16.940 okay
02:14:18.000 Dr. Judy
02:14:20.060 Mikevitz
02:14:20.740 she's a
02:14:22.260 hero
02:14:22.540 hero
02:14:24.620 yeah
02:14:25.720 Bill Gates
02:14:26.580 I would
02:14:29.000 say the
02:14:29.560 word
02:14:29.800 dangerous
02:14:30.440 Anthony
02:14:31.860 Fauci
02:14:32.360 hubris
02:14:33.180 I would
02:14:33.540 say hubris
02:14:34.400 with Bill
02:14:35.260 Gates
02:14:35.680 Anthony
02:14:37.940 Fauci
02:14:38.580 is honest
02:14:40.920 Trump
02:14:42.260 I would
02:14:45.760 say
02:14:46.380 I don't
02:14:51.880 want to
02:14:52.140 say anything
02:14:52.680 I don't
02:14:53.340 want to
02:14:54.160 be political
02:14:54.780 Robert
02:14:56.200 De Niro
02:14:56.720 I love
02:14:59.420 Robert
02:14:59.740 De Niro
02:15:00.120 I do too
02:15:01.260 Lyndon
02:15:02.180 Johnson
02:15:02.700 you know
02:15:09.480 Lyndon
02:15:09.820 Johnson
02:15:10.280 was
02:15:10.960 I
02:15:15.080 liked
02:15:17.600 Johnson
02:15:18.160 okay
02:15:18.900 I didn't
02:15:19.360 like him
02:15:19.820 when
02:15:20.080 he was
02:15:20.840 was
02:15:21.960 Vietnam
02:15:22.840 he wrote
02:15:24.820 me a
02:15:25.080 very sweet
02:15:25.740 letter
02:15:26.020 when I
02:15:26.380 was a
02:15:26.720 kid
02:15:26.900 when I
02:15:27.200 injured
02:15:27.560 myself
02:15:28.160 and he
02:15:29.840 actually
02:15:30.260 people don't
02:15:30.780 know this
02:15:31.220 but he
02:15:31.520 was very
02:15:32.280 kind
02:15:33.220 to my
02:15:33.580 father
02:15:34.000 at a
02:15:34.440 time
02:15:34.660 when my
02:15:34.960 father
02:15:35.300 was
02:15:35.540 shattered
02:15:35.980 he
02:15:36.500 really
02:15:37.840 made
02:15:38.180 an effort
02:15:38.500 that he
02:15:38.860 didn't
02:15:39.060 need
02:15:39.300 to make
02:15:39.800 to get
02:15:40.580 my
02:15:40.780 father
02:15:41.140 re-involved
02:15:42.040 in public
02:15:42.840 life
02:15:43.200 but then
02:15:43.640 you know
02:15:43.940 he got
02:15:44.300 very jealous
02:15:44.980 and their
02:15:45.660 relationship
02:15:48.340 deteriorated
02:15:49.200 but I
02:15:49.540 think
02:15:49.860 he
02:15:51.120 from
02:15:51.440 the
02:15:52.380 he
02:15:52.900 had
02:15:53.280 a
02:15:54.280 kindness
02:15:54.700 to him
02:15:55.240 that came
02:15:55.680 out
02:15:56.040 in a
02:15:56.740 critical
02:15:57.220 time
02:15:57.700 for my
02:15:58.140 dad
02:15:58.540 J. Edgar
02:16:00.320 Hoover
02:16:00.660 he was
02:16:02.140 a
02:16:02.640 catastrophe
02:16:05.280 for
02:16:06.000 democracy
02:16:06.960 and for
02:16:07.580 law
02:16:09.700 enforcement
02:16:10.300 and
02:16:10.780 you know
02:16:11.300 he was
02:16:11.620 a racist
02:16:12.380 terrible
02:16:14.580 terrible
02:16:15.100 man
02:16:15.600 he
02:16:16.760 grows
02:16:17.320 from
02:16:17.520 CDC
02:16:18.000 who
02:16:19.080 Tedros
02:16:20.380 he's
02:16:21.480 a
02:16:21.600 work
02:16:21.840 criminal
02:16:22.140 that's
02:16:24.240 my
02:16:24.420 list
02:16:24.780 Robert
02:16:25.620 thank you
02:16:26.440 for
02:16:26.860 agreeing
02:16:27.420 to do
02:16:27.880 this
02:16:28.100 long
02:16:28.460 form
02:16:28.780 interview
02:16:29.160 I
02:16:29.400 think
02:16:29.600 we've
02:16:29.800 been
02:16:29.920 talking
02:16:30.240 for
02:16:30.520 a good
02:16:30.740 two
02:16:30.920 and a
02:16:31.120 half
02:16:31.280 hours
02:16:31.760 on
02:16:32.080 many
02:16:32.400 different
02:16:32.720 topics
02:16:33.240 thank you
02:16:33.940 so much
02:16:34.220 for your
02:16:34.440 time
02:16:34.640 take care
02:16:35.060 bye
02:16:35.320 bye
02:16:35.640 thanks
02:16:36.060 everybody
02:16:37.180 for listening
02:16:37.840 and by
02:16:38.160 the way
02:16:38.360 if you
02:16:38.520 haven't
02:16:38.740 already
02:16:39.000 subscribed
02:16:39.460 to
02:16:39.700 value
02:16:39.940 tamed
02:16:40.200 on
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02:16:41.080 please
02:16:41.640 do
02:16:41.940 so
02:16:42.300 give
02:16:42.740 us
02:16:42.900 a
02:16:43.040 five
02:16:43.300 star
02:16:43.640 write
02:16:44.180 a
02:16:44.300 review
02:16:44.520 if
02:16:44.680 you
02:16:44.760 haven't
02:16:44.940 already
02:16:45.340 and
02:16:45.540 if
02:16:45.680 you
02:16:45.740 have
02:16:45.840 any
02:16:45.980 questions
02:16:46.460 for
02:16:46.780 me
02:16:46.920 that
02:16:47.040 you
02:16:47.140 may
02:16:47.260 have
02:16:47.460 you
02:16:47.740 can
02:16:47.900 always
02:16:48.200 find
02:16:48.420 me
02:16:48.540 on
02:16:48.680 snapchat
02:16:49.260 instagram
02:16:50.000 facebook
02:16:50.620 or
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02:16:51.280 just
02:16:51.580 search
02:16:51.860 my name
02:16:52.220 patrick
02:16:52.720 middavid
02:16:53.220 and I
02:16:53.660 actually
02:16:54.060 do
02:16:54.440 respond
02:16:54.960 back
02:16:55.300 when you
02:16:55.580 snap
02:16:55.900 me
02:16:56.160 or send
02:16:56.680 me
02:16:56.800 a
02:16:56.900 message
02:16:57.220 on
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02:16:58.000 with
02:16:58.280 that
02:16:58.460 being
02:16:58.640 said
02:16:58.840 have
02:16:59.000 a
02:16:59.120 great
02:16:59.420 day
02:16:59.640 today
02:16:59.880 take
02:17:00.140 care
02:17:00.240 everybody
02:17:00.580 bye
02:17:00.840 bye