Valuetainment - July 03, 2020


Episode 484: Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 17 minutes

Words per Minute

151.65308

Word Count

20,779

Sentence Count

854

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

Robert Kennedy Jr. talks about big pharma, Fauci, and the pro-vaccine movement in this exclusive interview with Patrick Bredeby on Valuetainment. Robert Kennedy Jr is a former Supreme Court Justice who served as the Chief Justice of the United States from 1987-1993 and served as President of the Supreme Court from 1993-1993. Robert has been an environmental lawyer for over 30 years and has been involved in the fight against mercury in the past and present. He has been a vocal opponent of Big Pharma and supports the use of vaccines.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 30 seconds.
00:00:01.880 Did you ever think you would make it?
00:00:04.220 I feel I'm so close I could take sweet victory.
00:00:07.640 I know this life meant for me.
00:00:10.760 Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got Bet David?
00:00:14.580 Valuetainment, giving value is contagious.
00:00:16.440 This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters.
00:00:19.160 How they run, homie?
00:00:20.140 Look what I become.
00:00:21.400 I'm the one.
00:00:22.460 I'm Patrick Bredeby, host of Atom.
00:00:23.880 And today I want to share with you an exclusive interview I did with Robert Kennedy Jr.
00:00:26.960 talking about big pharma, Fauci, and pro-vaccine movement.
00:00:30.000 Robert, thank you for being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:00:32.320 Thank you for having me, David.
00:00:34.520 So, Robert, just out of curiosity, why did you want to do a long-form interview
00:00:39.720 and kind of share some of your thoughts and views with the current times,
00:00:44.180 with what's taking place with coronavirus, with Fauci, with vaccines,
00:00:48.740 with all these things being done?
00:00:50.000 Why did you agree to do a long-form interview?
00:00:52.300 Well, I'd love to talk to your audience.
00:00:54.260 And, you know, listen, Patrick, I've been working on this issue for 15 years.
00:01:04.260 The problem with this issue is that if most people understood it,
00:01:09.200 if most people heard me talk about it or heard me debate about it,
00:01:12.460 I think most people would agree with my positions, which are common-sense provisions.
00:01:18.100 The vaccine should be tested like every other drug.
00:01:22.300 The problem is we don't get to convey those thoughts to anybody because of its censorship.
00:01:30.020 I haven't been allowed to publish an editorial since 2008.
00:01:34.980 Newspapers will attack me and then will not allow me to rebut in any way.
00:01:40.880 I can't even write letters to the editor.
00:01:43.420 I cannot appear on television, social media, Facebook, Google, Instagram,
00:01:50.260 all censor what we're saying.
00:01:51.960 Oh, I can – I have an Instagram account.
00:01:56.400 I have, you know, a lot of followers on Instagram,
00:01:58.980 and that's where I mainly communicate.
00:02:02.460 They are severely restricted in being able to share my Instagrams with other people.
00:02:08.520 That's constricted, and I'm not allowed to boost it.
00:02:11.100 So my growth is much slower than it would have been if I was actually allowed to boost.
00:02:18.640 We can't do that on any of the social media sites.
00:02:22.480 Social media sites like Google are intertwined and entangled financially with the pharmaceutical industry.
00:02:31.420 Google has a $750 million deal with Glaxo.
00:02:36.920 It's working with all the pharmaceutical companies to harvest data to get people's medical data
00:02:44.640 through Alexis, through Siri, through your cell phones when they're left on
00:02:51.260 and the microphone is still working, and through your buying habits and monitoring those things.
00:02:57.040 So they are in a partnership.
00:02:58.880 Google actually is part of a larger company called Alphabet,
00:03:02.420 and there are other subsidiaries of that company that actually manufacture vaccines.
00:03:07.840 So Google actively censors it.
00:03:11.520 When you do a Google search, it edits those search to make sure that you do not find the things
00:03:18.900 that are the most common search subjects.
00:03:22.100 It will direct you towards things.
00:03:25.160 It will direct you away from anything that harms the pharmaceutical industry.
00:03:28.920 It will direct you away from vitamins.
00:03:31.860 It will direct you away from chiropractors.
00:03:34.560 It will direct you away from functional health or integrative medicine
00:03:39.560 or any kind of alternative to the allopathic, you know, pharmaceutical paradigm.
00:03:47.880 What are you saying that's so offensive where many of these social media platforms
00:03:53.820 or even mainstream media wants to censor you from?
00:03:56.680 I, you know, here's the story, Patrick.
00:04:00.440 I got dragged into the vaccine issue really kicking and screaming, very reluctantly.
00:04:07.540 I'm an environmental lawyer.
00:04:08.940 I ran the biggest water, and still do, the biggest water protection group
00:04:12.600 in the World Water Keeper Alliance.
00:04:14.900 I'll tell you how I got into this.
00:04:16.540 In the early 2000s, we have 350 water keepers in 46 countries around the world.
00:04:27.480 Each one has a patrol boat.
00:04:29.860 They patrol their local river, and they sue polluters who are degrading it or contaminating it.
00:04:35.620 In around 2002 to 2005, I was actively litigating against about 40 coal-burning power plants
00:04:45.740 and cement kilns for discharging mercury.
00:04:48.920 The mercury was coming out of their smokestacks, landing on the landscapes,
00:04:53.580 it was contaminating fish.
00:04:55.080 And at that time, FDA did a study in 2003 that said that every freshwater fish in America
00:05:01.900 now had dangerous levels of mercury in its flesh.
00:05:04.680 So we were specifically, a lot of people were suing coal-burning power plants.
00:05:09.420 We were specifically suing them on mercury.
00:05:13.160 And I was going around the country pushing legislation, talking about my lawsuits, raising money.
00:05:19.840 At almost every public appearance that I made, there would be groups of women who would show up,
00:05:26.320 and they would come up to me afterward.
00:05:28.760 And it turns out that all of those women were women who had children with intellectual disabilities.
00:05:36.380 And they believed that their children had been harmed by the vaccines.
00:05:41.240 And specifically, from the mercury that was then in, you know, many of the vaccines, still is in some of them today.
00:05:50.440 And they would say to me, if you're in kind of a mildly scolding but respectful way,
00:05:56.400 if you're genuinely interested in mercury contamination to children, you need to look at the vaccines.
00:06:01.840 It's not something that I wanted to do.
00:06:04.520 I was very content doing, you know, protecting rivers.
00:06:08.660 I had been raised in the spirit of the movement for rights for people with intellectual disabilities.
00:06:16.240 I worked in Camp Schreiber from when I was a little kid as a counselor, as a hugger.
00:06:23.020 It later became Special Olympics, the year my father was killed in 1968.
00:06:27.820 We turned that into Special Olympics.
00:06:30.760 And my family, I worked for hundreds of hours when I was in high school at Wausauka Home for the Retarded
00:06:36.380 because it was a central preoccupation of my family, children, particularly with intellectual disabilities.
00:06:42.720 It's not, I had a lot of exposure to it, but it's not where I wanted to spend my life, a lot of empathy.
00:06:49.360 I really was committed to spending my life trying to clean up rivers and clean energy and those issues.
00:06:56.280 One of these women came to my home in the summer of 2004 with a big pile of scientific studies,
00:07:06.640 about 18 inches thick, and she put it on my front porch.
00:07:09.860 She was a psychologist from Minnesota named Sarah Bridges.
00:07:12.880 She had a child who had gotten autism from vaccines, had actually gotten a $20 million award from the vaccine court,
00:07:21.080 which recognized that his autism had come from the vaccines.
00:07:25.000 She brought that.
00:07:26.100 She didn't want it to happen to any other kids.
00:07:28.840 She brought me this big pile of scientific studies, and she said,
00:07:31.900 I'm not leaving here until you read this.
00:07:35.560 Now, I'm very accustomed to reading science.
00:07:39.500 I've brought over 500 successful lawsuits in my career.
00:07:44.040 Almost all of them involve some kind of scientific controversy.
00:07:47.520 So I actually started, I'm not going to say I read all the studies cover to cover,
00:07:53.060 but I read the abstract for all of them, which is the summary at the beginning of the study.
00:07:57.700 And before I was six inches into that pile, I was already dumbstruck by the huge delta
00:08:04.960 between what the actual published peer-reviewed science was saying
00:08:09.800 and what the public health regulators were telling the public and doctors and everybody else
00:08:15.300 about the safety of vaccines.
00:08:17.700 And I realized that there was a real problem,
00:08:21.600 and that these vaccines in our country, unlike other medicines, are never safety tested.
00:08:28.980 People find that astonishing.
00:08:30.760 The reason for that is an artifact of CDC's legacy as the public health service.
00:08:38.980 That was the predecessor agency to CDC.
00:08:42.440 The public health service was a quasi-military agency,
00:08:46.460 which is why people at CDC still have military ranks, like surgeon general, etc.
00:08:52.800 And the vaccine program was initially launched as a national security defense
00:08:57.960 against a biological attack on our country.
00:09:00.300 So the regulators and the Pentagon wanted to make sure that if the Russians attacked us
00:09:06.460 with anthrax or some other biological agent, they could quickly fabricate and deploy
00:09:11.320 a vaccine to 200 million people without regulatory impediments.
00:09:17.580 And so they said, if we call it a medicine, we're going to have to safety test it,
00:09:21.600 and that usually takes two to five years.
00:09:24.020 Let's call it a biologic, and then we will exempt biologics from having to do safety testing.
00:09:34.300 So the industry, the four companies that make all 72 vaccines that are currently mandated
00:09:43.800 for our children, I've got another gift that has contributed to the lack of safety assessments
00:09:54.640 and lack of safety concerns with vaccines.
00:09:57.180 And that is, in 1986, there was a vaccine.
00:10:02.280 I got three vaccines when I was a kid.
00:10:04.440 But by 86, there was about 11 of them.
00:10:07.680 And one of them was called the diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis, or the DTP vaccine.
00:10:12.120 And it was killing lots and lots of children, and it was causing brain damage in a tremendous
00:10:17.340 number of children.
00:10:19.260 And the industry was getting sued.
00:10:22.160 Oh, Wyatt, which is now called Pfizer, went to Congress and said, we are getting out of
00:10:28.400 the vaccine industry because we're paying $20 in damages for every $1 we make from this
00:10:34.900 vaccine.
00:10:35.380 And you cannot make a vaccine safely.
00:10:40.740 You cannot, it is impossible to make a vaccine that's completely safe.
00:10:44.740 You are going to injure a certain amount of people, and the injuries are going to be grievous
00:10:49.980 enough that nobody will ever make any money on vaccines because they're going to have to
00:10:55.480 pay more on injuries, and we can't make them better.
00:10:58.740 And we're going to get out of the industry altogether and stop making vaccines unless you give us
00:11:05.040 complete blanket immunity from liability.
00:11:09.120 So Congress, the Democratic Congress, Republican President Reagan, all of them taking lots of
00:11:15.860 money from these pharmaceutical companies, the number one contributor, passed along in 1986
00:11:22.260 called the Vaccine Act, or VICA, which gave blanket immunity.
00:11:26.620 So no matter how grievous your injury or your child's injury, no matter how toxic the ingredient,
00:11:32.520 no matter how sloppy the line protocols, no matter how negligent that company, you cannot
00:11:38.080 sue them or redress.
00:11:40.900 So there's no discovery.
00:11:42.280 There's no depositions.
00:11:43.560 There's no medical malpractice.
00:11:45.080 There's no class actions.
00:11:47.280 There's zero consequence if they kill you or if they injure you from life.
00:11:51.340 And the vaccine companies, or the pharmaceutical companies, took a look then at the landscape
00:11:59.680 and they said, holy cow, now we have a product that there is no liability.
00:12:06.600 And for every medical product, the biggest cost is paying liability at the back end.
00:12:12.020 So they said, no, you know, that's scrubbed.
00:12:13.980 We don't have to worry about that.
00:12:15.360 Number two, we don't have to safety test them.
00:12:19.440 So there's no reason.
00:12:21.440 There's no, that's a huge cost also for every other medication that they're now avoided.
00:12:27.740 Third, there is no marketing cause and zero advertising costs because the government is
00:12:34.580 going to mandate this product to 78 million people.
00:12:37.280 So there's no market forces or legal forces to tell us to make this vaccine safe.
00:12:45.640 And there's no reason to make it safe because nobody can sue you.
00:12:49.440 Nobody can do discovery.
00:12:51.440 There's no consequence of giving you a really dangerous vaccine.
00:12:56.420 Oh, there was a goal.
00:12:57.600 And by the way, with all those costs waived and mandatory consumption of that product,
00:13:06.060 it's a goldmine.
00:13:08.640 Oh, if you can get a vaccine on the CDC schedule, it's worth a billion dollars a year typically
00:13:16.460 to your company.
00:13:18.440 So there was a gold rush and all of these companies rushed on CDC and captured the agency
00:13:23.980 and got them to mandate all these vaccines.
00:13:27.680 And we went from the three vaccines that I had when I was a kid to 72 doses of vaccines
00:13:34.000 that my children's generation is getting.
00:13:37.980 And what happened?
00:13:38.920 And that process began in 1989.
00:13:42.660 And if you look at what happened in 89, we suddenly had an epidemic of chronic disease.
00:13:50.340 So the allergic disease, peanut allergies, suddenly became epidemic.
00:13:58.280 Peanut allergies in my generation or in the generation in 1986 were about 1 in 1,200.
00:14:05.440 Today it's 1 in 12 kids.
00:14:08.580 The asthma exploded.
00:14:11.000 Another allergic disease, anaphylaxis, eczema, which I never heard of when I was a kid,
00:14:15.540 now is everywhere.
00:14:16.740 It's ubiquitous.
00:14:17.320 We know that all those injuries are caused by vaccines.
00:14:21.020 Those are the allergic illnesses, the neurodevelopmental disorders, ADD, ADHD, speech delay, tics,
00:14:28.920 narcolepsy, language delay, SIDS, and ASD and autism suddenly exploded.
00:14:38.040 Autism rates went from 1 in 10,000 in my generation to 1 in every 34 kids today, 1 in every 22 boys.
00:14:45.800 This is a crisis.
00:14:47.360 This is a crisis.
00:14:47.420 It's much worse than the coronavirus crisis.
00:14:50.700 1 in 22 boys debilitated for life will never write poetry, never vote.
00:14:58.980 Half of them will never use a toilet.
00:15:02.360 None of them, half of them will never utter a word.
00:15:06.820 They'll never go on a date.
00:15:08.780 They'll never pay tax.
00:15:10.500 They'll never serve in the army.
00:15:12.900 There's 1 in every 22 boys.
00:15:15.660 This is a huge, huge crisis that dwarfs coronavirus.
00:15:21.020 And the CDC, if there are 700 measles cases in this country,
00:15:26.600 they will put 1,200 forensic pathologists and virologists in moon suits,
00:15:31.380 and they'll go out and turn over every rock and find out where that came from,
00:15:37.040 what is causing it.
00:15:39.220 And if you ask CDC, which is the Center for Disease Control,
00:15:42.360 their job is to tell us where these diseases are coming from,
00:15:46.220 where's the peanut allergies coming from?
00:15:48.780 I don't know.
00:15:50.180 Where's the autism coming from?
00:15:52.200 Where's the ADD?
00:15:53.240 Where are all these autoimmune diseases?
00:15:54.920 Why are we exploding with juvenile diabetes,
00:15:58.980 with rheumatoid arthritis, with fibromyalgia?
00:16:02.560 The reason is because they know where it's coming from.
00:16:05.420 It's coming from the vaccines.
00:16:07.040 And it's not me saying this.
00:16:10.000 If you look, there's 420 diseases that are now epidemic since 1989.
00:16:16.700 And by the way, Congress told the EPA,
00:16:19.380 tell us what year the autism epidemic began.
00:16:23.180 And the EPA scientists came back and said,
00:16:26.980 we can draw a red line.
00:16:28.860 It happened in 89.
00:16:30.720 That's when everything changed.
00:16:32.300 Well, that's the year the vaccine schedule changed.
00:16:34.360 But those diseases that are now epidemic,
00:16:38.280 those 420 diseases,
00:16:40.560 they appear on two lists.
00:16:42.760 One is a list of diseases that have become epidemic since 1989.
00:16:47.060 And two, they are on the manufacturer's inserts listed as side effects from vaccination.
00:16:56.000 And the reason for that, Patrick,
00:16:57.480 is because if the one way that you can sue a vaccine company under VICA
00:17:04.860 is if they know of an injury that's caused by vaccines,
00:17:10.020 a side effect,
00:17:11.060 and they fail to list it on their manufacturer's inserts.
00:17:14.060 So that's the one place they're on it.
00:17:16.760 And if you look at the DTaP vaccine,
00:17:20.440 autism is listed as an insert on their insert.
00:17:23.640 So they'll deny it everywhere else.
00:17:26.780 They admit it on their inserts.
00:17:28.380 And that's where you can go to get the truth.
00:17:31.180 Let me say one other thing.
00:17:33.840 You know, my party, the Democratic Party,
00:17:37.340 is the worst on this issue.
00:17:40.560 And it's very odd to me that they're mandating these vaccines that are untested.
00:17:45.880 How can you mandate any medication for a human being?
00:17:48.620 How can you tell somebody we are going to force you to take a medication
00:17:53.340 that you don't want to take?
00:17:55.620 And, you know, we signed a treaty, the Nuremberg Charter,
00:17:58.940 after World War II because the Nazis were doing that.
00:18:01.580 They were testing vaccines on people and all these other medical treatments.
00:18:05.600 And we said that is a war crime.
00:18:09.260 We don't do that to people.
00:18:10.740 And we signed the Syracuse Protocols,
00:18:13.860 the UN Charter of Human Rights,
00:18:15.560 the Holinsky Accords, the Nuremberg Charter,
00:18:18.700 all of those saying to them,
00:18:19.900 you cannot give a medication to somebody against their will,
00:18:22.940 even if the life of the nation is at stake.
00:18:26.100 That's a quote.
00:18:27.980 And yet we're mandating these drugs
00:18:31.460 that not only are we forcing people to take them,
00:18:35.500 and we know they cause injury,
00:18:37.800 and the vaccine court has paid out $4 billion.
00:18:40.400 And they're severely limited, those judgments.
00:18:46.200 And even HHS admits at the vaccine court
00:18:49.980 that fewer than 1% of injuries ever gets reported or awarded.
00:18:55.920 So, you know, make that $400 billion.
00:18:59.120 We know they cause a lot of injuries.
00:19:01.040 Even if they cause one injury,
00:19:02.540 how can you force a human being to take it against their will?
00:19:05.500 Well, it makes no sense.
00:19:08.080 Oh, but the other thing is,
00:19:10.560 the Democrats will say,
00:19:13.320 if you ask them,
00:19:15.040 what is the most corrupt industry
00:19:17.720 that's corrupted our political system?
00:19:19.660 They'll all say the same thing.
00:19:21.180 You know, the oil industry is huge,
00:19:23.260 and that's a side injury,
00:19:25.100 but they'll say nobody has the influence
00:19:27.180 that the pharmaceutical industry has.
00:19:28.880 There are more pharmaceutical lobbyists on Capitol Hill
00:19:32.460 than there are congressmen, senators,
00:19:34.020 and Supreme Court justices combined,
00:19:36.040 and they put twice the money
00:19:37.680 of the next biggest lobbyist,
00:19:39.800 which is oil and gas.
00:19:41.700 They're notoriously corrupt.
00:19:43.160 The four companies
00:19:44.340 that make all 72 of the vaccines
00:19:48.180 that are now mandated for our children,
00:19:49.980 every one of them is a convicted felon.
00:19:52.680 In the last 10 years,
00:19:54.200 those four companies,
00:19:55.300 Sanofi, Merck, Pfizer, and Glaxo,
00:19:58.240 have paid $35 billion
00:20:00.200 in penalties and damages
00:20:02.540 and, you know,
00:20:03.820 the civil penalties
00:20:04.620 for falsifying science
00:20:06.300 or defrauding regulators
00:20:08.720 for lying to doctors
00:20:11.200 and manipulating
00:20:12.740 and bribing
00:20:13.640 and blackmailing,
00:20:14.420 et cetera,
00:20:14.880 and for killing
00:20:15.800 hundreds of thousands of people.
00:20:18.580 Vioxx alone,
00:20:19.480 which is Merck's product,
00:20:20.340 Merck is the biggest vaccine maker
00:20:21.900 in our country.
00:20:22.840 It had another flagship product.
00:20:24.840 Now it's the Gartasil vaccine,
00:20:26.200 but back then it was Vioxx.
00:20:29.320 Vioxx killed
00:20:30.800 between 120,000
00:20:32.780 and 500,000 Americans
00:20:34.340 in between 2002
00:20:36.580 and 2007,
00:20:37.980 2006.
00:20:40.080 And it was a pill
00:20:43.640 and Merck marketed it
00:20:45.660 as a headache pill
00:20:46.580 that Merck knew
00:20:47.820 caused heart attacks.
00:20:50.060 How did it know it?
00:20:50.940 It knew it from its clinical data
00:20:52.340 because it killed a lot of people
00:20:53.760 during the clinical trials
00:20:54.960 and Merck's,
00:20:56.760 when we sued Merck,
00:20:58.680 there,
00:20:59.220 we got documents
00:21:00.900 that were these flow charts
00:21:02.520 from their,
00:21:03.280 from their bean counters
00:21:06.180 that said,
00:21:07.160 we are going to kill
00:21:07.860 a certain amount,
00:21:08.660 number of people,
00:21:10.520 but we will still make more money
00:21:12.280 even if we have to pay damages
00:21:13.800 to all the people we kill.
00:21:15.360 So we should go ahead
00:21:16.220 and do this.
00:21:16.880 So, you know,
00:21:17.420 which is,
00:21:18.080 is justifiably more,
00:21:20.500 morally justifiably
00:21:21.760 if you tell the people
00:21:23.100 when you take this pill
00:21:25.440 or your headache
00:21:26.520 or your arthritis,
00:21:27.860 it may kill you
00:21:28.740 and you're okay
00:21:30.120 because you warned them.
00:21:32.060 Merck didn't warn them.
00:21:33.240 It hid that fact.
00:21:34.640 And most of the people
00:21:35.740 who die,
00:21:37.460 probably,
00:21:38.260 if they knew this
00:21:39.400 could have killed them
00:21:40.020 from a heart attack,
00:21:41.280 they probably would have
00:21:42.040 taken an aspirin.
00:21:43.620 Merck didn't give them
00:21:44.720 that choice.
00:21:45.680 It lied to them.
00:21:47.400 How are we,
00:21:48.340 doesn't it require
00:21:50.280 a kind of cognitive dissonance
00:21:52.120 to believe
00:21:54.760 that the company
00:21:55.540 that would kill
00:21:56.700 half a million people
00:21:58.000 to make a buck on Vioxx
00:22:00.680 suddenly has found Jesus
00:22:03.300 when it comes to vaccines,
00:22:04.820 which, by the way,
00:22:06.360 is the only place
00:22:07.220 they can never get caught
00:22:08.220 because, you know,
00:22:10.020 all of those other drugs
00:22:11.340 that they got caught for,
00:22:13.280 the way they got caught
00:22:14.740 was that private attorneys,
00:22:18.160 plaintiff's attorneys,
00:22:19.440 representing injured clients,
00:22:22.380 sued the company,
00:22:23.340 Merck or Sanofi
00:22:24.120 or Wyatt or whatever,
00:22:25.120 Pfizer or whatever,
00:22:26.480 and in the course of discovery,
00:22:29.720 came across documents
00:22:30.920 that showed criminal behavior.
00:22:34.720 They took those documents,
00:22:36.080 they brought them down
00:22:36.820 to the U.S. attorney's office
00:22:38.180 and they said to the U.S. attorney,
00:22:40.140 you need to prosecute
00:22:41.220 this company for criminal acts.
00:22:43.360 That's how they got busted.
00:22:45.520 Well, that will never happen
00:22:46.700 with vaccines
00:22:47.500 because there are no losses.
00:22:49.580 There is no liability.
00:22:50.980 They can do anything
00:22:51.860 they want to you
00:22:52.980 and there are no consequences.
00:22:56.140 And by the way,
00:22:56.980 it's not only that
00:22:57.820 there are no consequences,
00:23:00.200 there are good consequences
00:23:01.980 for them from injuring you
00:23:04.120 because this explosion
00:23:07.760 in chronic disease epidemics
00:23:10.120 has made those companies,
00:23:11.920 the richest companies
00:23:12.920 in the world.
00:23:15.160 Oh, the same companies
00:23:18.420 that are selling you
00:23:19.420 that measles drug
00:23:20.900 are now selling
00:23:21.940 and the hepatitis B
00:23:24.220 and the DTaP
00:23:25.040 and the HIP vaccines
00:23:26.080 and that vaccine
00:23:27.980 is giving you seizures
00:23:29.400 or epilepsy
00:23:30.420 or autism
00:23:31.740 or food allergies
00:23:33.560 or asthma.
00:23:35.680 That same company
00:23:37.060 is now selling your child
00:23:39.440 who is sick for life
00:23:40.900 the albuterol inhalers,
00:23:44.020 the COVID inhalers,
00:23:46.020 the Adderall,
00:23:48.220 the Ritalin,
00:23:49.240 the Concerta,
00:23:51.460 the anti-seizure medication,
00:23:54.340 the diabetes drugs,
00:23:55.740 the rheumatoid arthritis drugs.
00:23:57.680 These companies are making
00:23:59.840 $50 billion a year
00:24:01.620 selling vaccines,
00:24:02.700 mandatory vaccines,
00:24:04.260 and then they're making
00:24:05.660 $500 billion a year
00:24:07.800 selling the treatments
00:24:09.820 for the chronic diseases
00:24:11.040 that are being caused
00:24:12.080 by those vaccines.
00:24:13.240 There is not only
00:24:14.600 no incentive for them
00:24:15.680 to make it safe,
00:24:16.580 there's actually an incentive
00:24:18.200 for them to make those
00:24:19.560 vaccines as dangerous
00:24:21.380 as possible.
00:24:22.220 They have monopoly control,
00:24:23.460 there's no competition.
00:24:25.360 Everybody's told,
00:24:26.400 you take this
00:24:27.060 Merck's hepatitis B shot.
00:24:30.100 You take Merck's MMR,
00:24:31.600 there is no other MMR to take.
00:24:33.540 Let me ask you this,
00:24:34.460 you said your party,
00:24:35.700 just for full disclosure,
00:24:36.920 you're still a Democrat,
00:24:38.020 you haven't left the party.
00:24:39.300 No, I'm still a Democrat,
00:24:40.700 but I'm really angry about this.
00:24:42.800 Why?
00:24:43.580 The one party that has this wrong
00:24:45.580 is the Democratic Party.
00:24:47.220 Well, I'm not going to say
00:24:48.600 blame it completely
00:24:49.420 on the Democrats
00:24:50.080 because,
00:24:51.460 in fact,
00:24:52.060 the parties have gone
00:24:52.960 back and forth on this.
00:24:54.140 issue,
00:24:54.700 and when they,
00:24:56.380 we have,
00:24:56.860 you know,
00:24:57.160 Reagan signed the law
00:24:58.440 into effect,
00:25:00.560 and I'm not blaming Reagan,
00:25:02.660 you know,
00:25:03.080 because I think Reagan
00:25:05.180 was probably trying
00:25:05.980 to do something good,
00:25:07.220 and the Democrats
00:25:08.040 who voted for it
00:25:09.000 all believe
00:25:11.360 that this law
00:25:12.840 would somehow
00:25:13.920 make it easier
00:25:15.940 for people to recover
00:25:17.140 injuries,
00:25:18.900 from injuries quickly,
00:25:20.060 and that they would keep people,
00:25:21.600 you know,
00:25:21.820 from getting sick.
00:25:22.580 They didn't know
00:25:23.160 what I know today
00:25:24.440 about vaccines.
00:25:25.580 So,
00:25:26.500 but when we had
00:25:27.460 the Supreme Court case,
00:25:29.160 which,
00:25:29.820 you know,
00:25:30.180 extended the liability,
00:25:32.020 complete blanket immunity
00:25:33.340 for all product defect claims
00:25:35.760 to these companies,
00:25:37.900 it was the Republicans
00:25:39.400 on the Supreme Court
00:25:41.240 that voted to do that,
00:25:43.620 and it was the Democrats,
00:25:45.460 you know,
00:25:45.660 particularly Sotomayor
00:25:47.180 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
00:25:48.780 who wrote these,
00:25:50.240 you know,
00:25:50.740 infuriated dissents,
00:25:52.540 saying,
00:25:52.900 this is,
00:25:53.700 you are unleashing
00:25:54.800 the devil here,
00:25:56.320 and that's exactly
00:25:57.300 what happened.
00:25:57.960 And then,
00:25:59.240 what's happened
00:26:01.360 on Capitol Hill
00:26:03.880 and in Congress,
00:26:05.360 the Republicans
00:26:05.920 are as bad
00:26:06.620 as the Democrats.
00:26:07.560 Everybody's scared
00:26:08.300 of this issue.
00:26:09.800 On the state legislatures,
00:26:12.340 the Republicans
00:26:12.960 have been fantastic,
00:26:14.600 and they are the ones
00:26:15.720 that have stopped
00:26:16.640 the pharmaceutical companies,
00:26:18.320 but once they get up
00:26:19.360 into the higher office,
00:26:21.600 where pharma
00:26:22.200 has more control,
00:26:23.640 you know,
00:26:23.840 we can't get hearings
00:26:24.920 from them,
00:26:25.860 we can't get anything
00:26:26.720 out of either party.
00:26:28.480 The reason why I ask
00:26:29.500 this is the following reason.
00:26:30.480 So for me,
00:26:31.800 in my family,
00:26:32.800 I'm married,
00:26:33.400 I have three kids,
00:26:34.160 I was in the military,
00:26:35.060 so you know,
00:26:35.460 when you're in the military,
00:26:36.180 you take a bunch of shots.
00:26:37.300 I took 11 shots
00:26:38.300 when I joined the Army,
00:26:39.260 and they said,
00:26:39.680 you're government property.
00:26:40.680 Something may happen,
00:26:41.520 but we're testing.
00:26:43.520 I have offices nationwide,
00:26:44.900 and I talk to a lot
00:26:45.860 of my executives,
00:26:46.660 and a lot of them
00:26:47.200 are from California.
00:26:48.080 In California,
00:26:48.540 they're not comfortable
00:26:49.360 about vaccines,
00:26:49.960 so they'll say,
00:26:51.000 I'm anti-vaccine,
00:26:52.120 I'm pro-vaccine,
00:26:53.100 but there's a lot of people
00:26:54.220 that are in the middle.
00:26:56.040 And the people
00:26:56.820 I'd want to focus on
00:26:57.820 is the folks
00:26:58.400 that are willing
00:27:00.000 to be educated
00:27:03.360 to consider
00:27:04.120 different positions.
00:27:05.360 I'm speaking to my wife,
00:27:06.720 and my wife last night,
00:27:07.640 we stayed up last night late,
00:27:09.240 watching all these
00:27:10.300 different documentaries,
00:27:11.380 these articles,
00:27:12.320 and you know,
00:27:12.660 once you get into
00:27:13.220 this conversation
00:27:13.980 of anti-vaccine
00:27:14.700 and pro-vaccine,
00:27:15.280 there's a lot you can read.
00:27:16.340 There's enough content
00:27:17.660 to go through.
00:27:18.620 And she says,
00:27:19.140 well, babe,
00:27:19.520 this is starting to make sense,
00:27:20.600 and that's starting to make sense,
00:27:21.460 and what about this?
00:27:22.140 And it kept going and going.
00:27:23.820 You know,
00:27:24.480 to those who are in the middle,
00:27:26.220 when you talk about Democrats,
00:27:27.500 and I said,
00:27:28.120 you know,
00:27:28.440 why are Democrats not again?
00:27:29.760 I think a lot of people
00:27:30.980 do have an issue
00:27:32.180 with Big Pharma.
00:27:32.920 This is some stats
00:27:33.620 that I pulled up,
00:27:35.040 is Big Pharma
00:27:36.840 that's advertised
00:27:37.720 six billion dollars
00:27:39.140 of TV last year.
00:27:40.640 When it comes down
00:27:41.460 to lobby
00:27:41.920 and you were given
00:27:42.540 the data,
00:27:43.020 they're number one.
00:27:44.080 Number one was Big Pharma
00:27:45.120 by a mile
00:27:45.860 at 280 million.
00:27:48.560 Insurance was second,
00:27:50.200 then electronic manufacturing,
00:27:51.580 then business associations,
00:27:52.920 then oil and gas,
00:27:53.760 then electronic,
00:27:54.380 then real estate.
00:27:55.820 And then I went
00:27:56.560 a little bit deeper.
00:27:57.200 I said,
00:27:57.340 let me see what's happening
00:27:57.960 with cost.
00:27:59.080 And you see that
00:28:00.060 based on a study done
00:28:01.560 by an independent research group
00:28:03.600 funded by the fourth
00:28:04.460 health insurance companies,
00:28:05.580 four health insurance companies,
00:28:07.120 type 1 diabetes spent
00:28:08.380 on average
00:28:08.900 $5,700 per person
00:28:10.320 on insulin in 2016
00:28:11.640 versus 2841 in 2012.
00:28:14.640 That's nearly a 100% growth
00:28:16.960 in only four years.
00:28:17.960 And 3,400 drugs boosted
00:28:20.800 their pricing for the first
00:28:22.740 six months of 2019,
00:28:24.080 17% increase in the number
00:28:26.040 of drug hikes from a year earlier.
00:28:28.820 And the average price hike
00:28:30.420 is 10.5%.
00:28:31.460 That's five times inflation.
00:28:33.700 So when I watch debates,
00:28:35.500 you don't see the left
00:28:37.560 and the right being too off
00:28:38.880 when it comes down
00:28:39.560 to Big Pharma abusing them.
00:28:41.180 So who is holding them accountable
00:28:43.700 to be able to constantly bully?
00:28:45.080 You point out
00:28:46.560 the first thing you said
00:28:48.500 is really kind of
00:28:50.200 the root of the problem,
00:28:51.620 which is in,
00:28:52.680 I think it was 1996,
00:28:55.880 FDA adopted a new rule.
00:28:58.920 It was illegal in this country
00:29:00.700 for pharmaceutical companies
00:29:02.380 to advertise drugs
00:29:03.940 direct to consumer.
00:29:04.900 In other words,
00:29:05.360 to advertise on TV.
00:29:08.560 And then FDA changed that rule.
00:29:12.100 So there's only two countries
00:29:13.360 in the world
00:29:13.820 that allow pharmaceutical companies
00:29:16.540 to advertise on TV.
00:29:17.900 And New Zealand is one
00:29:18.940 and we're the others.
00:29:19.900 And we have,
00:29:20.940 as a result of that,
00:29:22.000 we have the highest drug prices
00:29:23.300 and we have the most drugs.
00:29:24.940 I think nine out of every $10
00:29:26.560 in the world
00:29:29.260 spent on pharmaceutical drugs
00:29:31.200 is spent in this country.
00:29:32.780 So we're, you know,
00:29:33.680 we, it's not a good thing
00:29:35.680 for public health.
00:29:36.480 And by the way,
00:29:37.820 the third leading cause
00:29:40.180 of death in this country
00:29:41.440 is pharmaceutical drugs.
00:29:44.400 So they're not making us healthier.
00:29:46.380 We have the most aggressive
00:29:48.900 vaccine schedule
00:29:50.560 in the world
00:29:51.200 in this country
00:29:52.040 and we have the worst health
00:29:53.700 in our children and adults.
00:29:56.420 Oh, we have the worst
00:29:57.820 infant mortality.
00:29:59.160 We have,
00:29:59.460 if you look at any
00:30:00.340 of the metrics,
00:30:01.260 the US,
00:30:02.020 I think it's 72
00:30:03.100 in infant mortality
00:30:04.840 in the world.
00:30:05.460 We're around Syria
00:30:06.360 and Costa Rica.
00:30:08.580 And when I was a kid,
00:30:09.940 we were number one
00:30:10.840 on all of those.
00:30:11.820 We were the best,
00:30:13.080 we were the healthiest people
00:30:13.940 in the world,
00:30:14.400 the best healthcare system.
00:30:16.440 Today we get,
00:30:17.700 you know,
00:30:17.960 we're paying the most money
00:30:19.060 for the worst outcomes
00:30:20.100 and a lot of that
00:30:20.880 is because
00:30:21.800 pharmaceutical advertisements
00:30:24.480 not only do they
00:30:26.140 advertise on TV,
00:30:27.320 but they control content.
00:30:29.880 Oh, you know,
00:30:32.000 Anderson Cooper
00:30:32.780 is sponsored by Pfizer.
00:30:34.060 Aaron Burnett
00:30:36.460 is sponsored by Pfizer.
00:30:38.980 The NBC Nightly News
00:30:40.860 is sponsored by Merck.
00:30:43.760 And Roger Ailes told me,
00:30:47.040 you know,
00:30:47.320 Roger Ailes,
00:30:48.460 who I knew very well,
00:30:50.440 and it was the founder
00:30:51.800 of Fox News.
00:30:53.520 I didn't agree
00:30:54.400 with him politically,
00:30:55.580 but we were friends.
00:30:57.040 We spent a couple months
00:30:58.240 together in a tent.
00:30:59.380 I was 18 years old
00:31:00.860 in Africa.
00:31:01.480 I had this,
00:31:02.800 you know,
00:31:03.080 good relationship with him.
00:31:05.660 And he understood
00:31:07.380 the issue of vaccine injury
00:31:09.240 from,
00:31:09.820 he had a personal experience
00:31:11.340 with vaccine injury
00:31:12.320 where a kid
00:31:14.180 who was close to him
00:31:15.360 was injured.
00:31:16.600 And so he knew
00:31:17.740 it was true.
00:31:18.840 And we,
00:31:19.400 I had made,
00:31:20.060 I helped make a film,
00:31:22.320 a documentary about it
00:31:23.820 a couple of years
00:31:24.920 before he died,
00:31:25.860 when he was still
00:31:26.320 at the height of his powers.
00:31:28.540 And I asked him,
00:31:30.040 you know,
00:31:30.320 can I come on,
00:31:31.600 I didn't want to play it
00:31:32.540 on Fox,
00:31:33.200 but I wanted to come on Fox
00:31:34.360 and talk about it.
00:31:36.180 And he said,
00:31:36.560 I can't let you do that.
00:31:37.740 And he said,
00:31:38.220 in fact,
00:31:38.680 if any of my hosts
00:31:40.020 allowed you on their show,
00:31:42.200 I'd have to fire them.
00:31:43.180 And if I didn't,
00:31:44.780 I would get a call
00:31:46.060 from Rupert
00:31:46.700 within 10 minutes.
00:31:48.600 Rupert Murdoch,
00:31:49.620 who owns Fox,
00:31:50.800 also owns
00:31:51.740 one of the biggest
00:31:52.340 vaccine companies
00:31:53.360 in the world
00:31:53.840 and has been
00:31:55.040 one of the big
00:31:55.700 promoters of it.
00:31:57.060 But what Roger told me
00:31:58.900 then,
00:31:59.240 he said,
00:31:59.820 he said,
00:32:00.500 during non-election years,
00:32:03.300 during certain parts
00:32:04.540 of the year,
00:32:05.580 70% of our advertising
00:32:07.980 revenue for evening news
00:32:09.440 shows
00:32:09.920 is coming from pharma.
00:32:12.200 And he said,
00:32:14.480 typically there's
00:32:15.180 about 22 ads
00:32:16.440 on an evening news
00:32:17.620 and 17 of those
00:32:18.820 are pharmaceutical ads.
00:32:20.640 That's why you see
00:32:21.860 these aggressive
00:32:23.020 promotions of vaccines
00:32:24.420 all the time.
00:32:25.280 You're constantly
00:32:26.160 being told,
00:32:28.100 it's flu season,
00:32:29.120 get your vaccine
00:32:29.920 because they're
00:32:30.360 selling the products
00:32:31.480 not just during
00:32:32.460 the advertising
00:32:33.000 section of the show,
00:32:34.240 but they're selling
00:32:34.880 the products
00:32:35.360 during the entire show.
00:32:37.580 And get your measles
00:32:38.800 and then,
00:32:39.420 you know,
00:32:39.660 this inflating,
00:32:40.880 the terror of flu,
00:32:42.820 the terror of measles,
00:32:44.240 the terror of,
00:32:45.140 you know,
00:32:45.480 coronavirus,
00:32:46.460 which are constant themes
00:32:47.900 which bring them
00:32:48.980 in viewers,
00:32:50.500 but also sell,
00:32:51.940 you know,
00:32:52.140 medical products
00:32:53.060 which is what
00:32:53.680 their advertiser
00:32:54.500 is trying to sell.
00:32:55.360 And those companies,
00:32:57.500 you know,
00:32:57.800 CNN and those other
00:33:00.380 companies
00:33:00.820 have been utterly
00:33:01.520 compromised.
00:33:02.420 They're not asking
00:33:03.400 the questions
00:33:04.040 of government officials
00:33:05.220 that they need
00:33:05.960 to be asking.
00:33:07.040 And they're giving,
00:33:07.800 you know,
00:33:08.020 they're bowing down
00:33:08.860 and genuflecting
00:33:09.780 to Anthony Fauci
00:33:10.880 who has a very
00:33:13.160 well-documented
00:33:14.300 and very checkerty
00:33:16.080 history of telling
00:33:17.900 the truth,
00:33:18.820 of not telling
00:33:19.420 the truth,
00:33:20.160 of abusing
00:33:21.420 his power
00:33:22.200 and of,
00:33:24.420 you know,
00:33:24.860 resulting
00:33:25.360 and of doing
00:33:26.380 really sinister
00:33:27.340 things like
00:33:28.100 hiding the
00:33:29.220 leukemia virus
00:33:30.240 that is known
00:33:31.380 to be in three
00:33:32.500 of our large
00:33:33.080 vaccines that we
00:33:34.000 know causes cancer.
00:33:35.020 And he's hidden
00:33:37.100 that from the
00:33:37.580 American people.
00:33:38.660 He fired the
00:33:40.440 number one
00:33:41.220 scientist at NIH
00:33:42.620 when her studies
00:33:43.740 showed that those
00:33:45.620 vaccines were
00:33:46.340 contaminated.
00:33:46.880 And he also,
00:33:51.280 he was,
00:33:52.160 Judy Mikovits,
00:33:53.020 who worked
00:33:53.600 for the agency,
00:33:55.320 was on the team
00:33:57.160 that identified
00:33:58.380 the HIV vaccine,
00:34:00.280 or HIV virus,
00:34:01.520 and connected it
00:34:02.180 to AIDS.
00:34:02.960 And he kept
00:34:03.660 that secret
00:34:04.340 for six months
00:34:05.240 that he could get
00:34:07.160 one of his cronies
00:34:08.120 to make the publication.
00:34:09.340 But that resulted
00:34:10.280 in many,
00:34:11.240 many people
00:34:11.800 getting AIDS
00:34:12.580 because the test
00:34:13.280 was delayed
00:34:14.100 by six months.
00:34:14.980 And those things
00:34:16.960 are, you know,
00:34:18.440 are really black spots
00:34:19.660 on Tony Fauci's record.
00:34:21.760 And to turn
00:34:22.600 our entire nation
00:34:23.840 over to Tony Fauci
00:34:26.740 with this unquestioned
00:34:28.260 reverence
00:34:28.980 and the constant,
00:34:30.300 you know,
00:34:30.780 genuflecting to him,
00:34:31.860 I think is something
00:34:32.740 that is not healthy
00:34:34.360 for our country.
00:34:35.300 And it's really
00:34:36.240 kind of sickening
00:34:37.280 to see,
00:34:38.880 to watch the news division.
00:34:40.560 These people
00:34:40.960 are supposed
00:34:41.380 to be reporters
00:34:42.200 doing the exact
00:34:43.400 same thing
00:34:43.960 that they did
00:34:44.480 during the Iraq war,
00:34:45.680 which is that,
00:34:46.700 you know,
00:34:46.940 what reporters
00:34:47.900 are not supposed
00:34:48.660 to take the word
00:34:50.540 of government officials.
00:34:51.960 My father told me
00:34:53.020 when I was a kid,
00:34:55.140 people in power lie.
00:34:57.240 The job of a reporter
00:34:58.180 is constant skepticism,
00:35:00.200 constant scrutiny,
00:35:01.680 and to ask
00:35:02.480 the difficult questions.
00:35:03.540 And that simply
00:35:04.200 is not happening.
00:35:05.880 Wow.
00:35:06.480 Wow.
00:35:06.820 Yeah,
00:35:06.960 I have the article
00:35:07.600 right here
00:35:07.980 where you said,
00:35:08.840 well,
00:35:09.600 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
00:35:11.380 warns Anthony Fauci
00:35:12.360 is a fraud
00:35:12.940 and has poisoned
00:35:13.620 an entire generation
00:35:14.520 of Americans.
00:35:15.040 This was just 10 days
00:35:15.900 ago,
00:35:16.080 April 20th.
00:35:17.040 So let's just say
00:35:18.240 you were a reporter.
00:35:19.320 Say Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
00:35:21.400 instead of wanting
00:35:22.180 to go into environmental law,
00:35:24.040 you have a conversation
00:35:24.820 and you decide,
00:35:26.360 you know,
00:35:26.860 I think I want
00:35:28.020 to go be a reporter.
00:35:29.100 If you're a reporter today,
00:35:30.960 if you're a reporter today,
00:35:32.180 and you're interviewing
00:35:33.180 Dr. Anthony Fauci,
00:35:34.780 what questions
00:35:35.620 would you be asking?
00:35:36.380 I would be saying,
00:35:39.280 I mean,
00:35:39.540 number one,
00:35:40.580 why are we skipping
00:35:42.680 animal studies
00:35:43.600 with these vaccines?
00:35:44.840 We know the history
00:35:45.640 of the coronavirus vaccine.
00:35:47.340 Coronavirus vaccines
00:35:48.600 in the past
00:35:49.840 have shown themselves
00:35:50.740 to be very,
00:35:51.480 very dangerous vaccines,
00:35:52.980 very volatile vaccines.
00:35:55.360 And I'll explain
00:35:56.460 to you why that's so.
00:35:59.300 In 2002,
00:36:01.600 beginning in 2002,
00:36:02.840 there were three SARS epidemics,
00:36:04.780 and these are,
00:36:07.300 SARS is a coronavirus.
00:36:10.200 And what the first of those
00:36:12.380 was a natural occurring coronavirus
00:36:15.220 that jumped from bats
00:36:17.180 in China to human beings.
00:36:20.800 The second two
00:36:21.940 were lab-created coronavirus
00:36:24.360 vaccines,
00:36:25.200 coronaviruses
00:36:26.480 that escaped from the lab
00:36:28.400 and caused these epidemics.
00:36:29.880 And that's non-controversial.
00:36:31.340 Everybody, you know,
00:36:32.600 agrees with that.
00:36:34.780 But there was deep concern
00:36:37.220 about the transmissibility
00:36:39.300 and the virulence
00:36:40.240 of coronavirus
00:36:40.900 and its capacity
00:36:42.060 to jump from animals
00:36:43.020 to human beings.
00:36:44.800 So all the major nations,
00:36:47.200 Western nations,
00:36:48.080 and China got together
00:36:49.240 in the,
00:36:50.780 between 2006 and 2012
00:36:53.780 to create coronavirus vaccines.
00:36:57.080 They created about 30 vaccines
00:36:58.920 and they chose
00:37:00.260 the four most promising ones.
00:37:01.940 This is a consortium
00:37:02.920 of the best scientists,
00:37:04.360 virologists,
00:37:05.160 and immunologists in the world.
00:37:07.440 They gave those four vaccines
00:37:09.520 to ferrets.
00:37:10.440 And ferrets are the closest analogy
00:37:12.120 when it comes to upper respiratory infections
00:37:14.160 to human beings.
00:37:15.120 They're heavily utilized
00:37:16.860 to study coronavirus.
00:37:17.920 Ferrets had an excellent
00:37:22.560 immune response
00:37:24.820 to the vaccines,
00:37:25.800 meaning they developed antibodies.
00:37:27.800 And that's the metric
00:37:29.000 that FDA uses
00:37:30.580 when it licenses a vaccine.
00:37:33.080 It just looks and says,
00:37:34.360 is it producing antibody?
00:37:35.480 Vaccines are never tested
00:37:36.620 in the field, Patrick.
00:37:37.760 Nobody ever gives
00:37:38.820 5,000 people a vaccine
00:37:41.580 and 5,000 people no vaccine
00:37:43.040 and then sends them out
00:37:44.220 and sees what happens.
00:37:45.500 That's not how
00:37:46.280 they get licensed.
00:37:47.940 They get licensed
00:37:49.020 by showing
00:37:49.880 that they can produce antibodies.
00:37:51.500 And the presumption is
00:37:52.540 that that antibody
00:37:53.440 will defend you
00:37:54.520 against future attacks
00:37:56.220 by that virus.
00:37:59.140 And so they,
00:38:00.420 the ferrets developed
00:38:02.580 a really good antibody response
00:38:04.400 and they thought
00:38:05.160 they had four winners here.
00:38:07.520 But,
00:38:08.680 and something really frightening
00:38:10.300 happened.
00:38:11.100 When those ferrets
00:38:12.120 were exposed
00:38:12.780 to the wild virus,
00:38:14.520 they had developed
00:38:16.320 horrible inflammation
00:38:19.120 throughout all the organs
00:38:20.260 on their bodies
00:38:21.020 and they died.
00:38:23.440 Particularly in their lungs
00:38:24.800 and they died.
00:38:27.080 And then those scientists
00:38:28.120 remembered
00:38:28.740 that the same thing
00:38:30.820 had happened
00:38:31.280 when they had tried
00:38:32.400 an RSV vaccine
00:38:34.040 in the 1960s
00:38:35.660 on children.
00:38:37.500 They had an RSV
00:38:38.320 that was very similar
00:38:39.080 to coronavirus,
00:38:40.100 upper respiratory infection
00:38:41.360 and they had given it
00:38:42.380 to about,
00:38:43.120 they skipped animal studies.
00:38:44.940 They gave it to
00:38:45.780 35 kids
00:38:48.040 and it was an excellent immune,
00:38:49.860 provoked excellent immune response.
00:38:51.920 But then when those kids
00:38:53.220 were exposed
00:38:53.720 to the wild virus,
00:38:54.980 they became horribly sick
00:38:56.520 and two of them died
00:38:57.860 and they immediately
00:38:58.980 discontinued that study
00:39:00.340 and it was a scandal.
00:39:01.980 Everybody remembered it
00:39:03.040 and they were in 2012
00:39:05.380 and they were testing
00:39:07.700 all of these vaccines.
00:39:09.420 They said to themselves
00:39:10.460 on ferrets,
00:39:11.380 they said,
00:39:11.840 this is what happened
00:39:12.880 to those children.
00:39:14.460 We tried it out
00:39:15.420 and they developed
00:39:16.120 antibody response
00:39:17.100 but then they had
00:39:17.900 what we call
00:39:18.440 paradoxical immune enhancement.
00:39:20.600 Now when they were exposed
00:39:21.580 to the real virus,
00:39:23.420 instead of protecting against it,
00:39:25.840 it actually enhanced it
00:39:27.200 and it made it much more deadly.
00:39:29.620 And then they connected it
00:39:30.920 in 2014
00:39:31.940 to the dengue vaccine,
00:39:33.920 which was one of
00:39:34.620 Tony Fauci's vaccines,
00:39:37.160 which had a lot
00:39:37.940 of those same red flags
00:39:39.840 during the clinical trials,
00:39:42.440 but they gave it
00:39:43.440 to the Filipinos anyway.
00:39:45.240 The Philippines gave it
00:39:46.740 to hundreds of thousands
00:39:47.620 of kids.
00:39:49.240 The kids were great,
00:39:50.740 great immune response
00:39:51.960 and then when they were
00:39:52.920 exposed to the wild virus,
00:39:54.480 they died,
00:39:54.980 600 of them died.
00:39:56.340 And the Philippine government
00:39:57.280 today is prosecuting criminally
00:39:59.200 and putting people
00:39:59.980 in jail for that
00:40:00.840 because they knew it.
00:40:02.400 They knew something bad
00:40:03.460 was going to happen
00:40:04.120 from the clinical trials.
00:40:06.540 And so this is something
00:40:10.620 that is a unique peculiarity
00:40:12.660 of coronavirus.
00:40:14.840 And it's puzzling
00:40:16.820 that Tony Fauci
00:40:17.860 on his own vaccine,
00:40:19.260 the Moderna vaccine,
00:40:20.240 which he, you know,
00:40:21.100 his agency owns 50%
00:40:23.020 of that vaccine,
00:40:23.900 and they went right
00:40:26.020 to human testing
00:40:26.900 without testing on animals.
00:40:28.540 And that just seems
00:40:29.420 almost criminally irresponsible.
00:40:32.040 And he's allowing
00:40:32.780 the same thing.
00:40:34.680 Oh, I would ask him,
00:40:36.120 knowing that history,
00:40:37.800 and by the way,
00:40:39.800 it's not just me saying this.
00:40:41.440 All the people
00:40:42.080 who have criticized me
00:40:43.220 for my stance on vaccines
00:40:44.540 for many years,
00:40:45.460 the leaders like Peter Hotez,
00:40:47.960 Paul Offit,
00:40:48.940 and Ian Lipkin
00:40:49.640 are all saying
00:40:50.320 the same thing
00:40:50.960 that I'm saying
00:40:51.600 to you right now.
00:40:52.420 You have to be really,
00:40:54.700 really careful
00:40:55.400 with the coronavirus vaccine.
00:40:57.800 The reason is
00:40:58.680 that vaccines develop
00:41:01.680 an immune response,
00:41:06.840 but they develop
00:41:09.180 different kinds.
00:41:09.980 There are two different
00:41:10.680 kinds of antibodies,
00:41:11.740 and this is what they found
00:41:12.520 out from this process.
00:41:14.640 There's neutralizing antibodies
00:41:16.240 which you want
00:41:17.220 your body to produce,
00:41:18.700 and that guards you
00:41:19.560 against the disease.
00:41:20.560 Those are good antibodies.
00:41:22.820 They also produce
00:41:24.060 a specific species
00:41:25.440 of antibodies
00:41:26.240 called blinding antibodies,
00:41:29.720 and those are the ones
00:41:30.880 that provoke
00:41:31.580 that enhanced immune response
00:41:34.180 once you're exposed
00:41:35.420 to the vaccine,
00:41:36.480 and you have to figure out
00:41:37.720 which one of those
00:41:39.600 you're actually producing.
00:41:41.200 And it's unclear
00:41:42.240 that the way you do that
00:41:44.920 is by testing it on animals.
00:41:46.120 And they're not doing that
00:41:48.680 in this case.
00:41:49.440 The other thing
00:41:50.040 that they're not doing
00:41:50.760 is they're not using
00:41:51.680 placebo testing,
00:41:53.240 which means nobody
00:41:54.840 will ever know
00:41:56.060 what the risk profile
00:41:57.520 is for those products.
00:41:59.580 If you don't test
00:42:00.780 against placebo,
00:42:02.520 you don't know
00:42:04.240 whether the people
00:42:05.140 who became ill
00:42:06.320 in that cohort
00:42:07.220 that received the vaccine
00:42:08.280 became ill
00:42:08.880 because of the vaccine,
00:42:10.760 or it's just coincidental.
00:42:12.840 There's no way to know,
00:42:14.280 and so they don't even record it.
00:42:16.460 And it immediately
00:42:20.080 creates opportunities
00:42:21.920 for bias,
00:42:23.040 for corruption,
00:42:23.920 and for cheating
00:42:24.420 if you do not use placebo.
00:42:26.260 And that's why
00:42:26.760 the World Health Organization,
00:42:28.120 CDC, FDA, NIH,
00:42:30.060 everybody says
00:42:30.960 if you don't use placebo,
00:42:33.880 it's not science,
00:42:35.280 it's marketing.
00:42:36.820 And that's what
00:42:37.420 they're doing.
00:42:37.940 They're doing all
00:42:38.780 of these tests
00:42:39.580 without using placebo.
00:42:41.940 And I would say
00:42:42.540 to Anthony Fauci,
00:42:44.400 well, why aren't you
00:42:45.380 using a placebo group?
00:42:46.800 Are you scared
00:42:47.700 about what is going
00:42:49.240 to be shown
00:42:49.880 about safety
00:42:50.740 if you actually
00:42:51.960 use a treatment
00:42:52.780 of placebo group?
00:42:53.460 It's completely
00:42:54.040 irresponsible.
00:42:55.420 When you look
00:42:56.540 at the data
00:42:57.080 and the media shows
00:42:58.320 approval rating
00:42:59.540 of Fauci against Trump,
00:43:01.040 and they constantly
00:43:01.580 show that,
00:43:02.100 that America trusts Fauci
00:43:04.340 more than Trump
00:43:05.980 right now,
00:43:06.960 behind closed doors,
00:43:08.320 what is the motivation
00:43:09.520 of Fauci?
00:43:12.040 You know,
00:43:12.500 you have a lot
00:43:13.640 of folks
00:43:14.060 who are watching
00:43:14.560 saying this man
00:43:15.240 seems like
00:43:15.620 a reasonable guy.
00:43:17.940 Fauci has a bias
00:43:19.260 towards vaccines,
00:43:20.560 and he owns
00:43:21.440 the vaccine.
00:43:22.240 So he has the patent.
00:43:23.420 He literally
00:43:24.040 owns vaccine patents.
00:43:25.440 Is it purely profit?
00:43:26.640 Motivation is purely profit?
00:43:27.960 Well, no,
00:43:28.240 I think it's power.
00:43:29.900 And I think the same
00:43:30.640 is true of the case.
00:43:31.440 Both of them
00:43:31.980 actually stand
00:43:33.060 to make huge amounts
00:43:34.040 of money,
00:43:34.820 you know,
00:43:35.340 potentially billions
00:43:36.380 to millions of dollars.
00:43:38.460 But I don't believe,
00:43:39.740 you know,
00:43:39.920 it's very hard
00:43:40.620 to look into
00:43:41.300 another man's brain,
00:43:42.480 and I try not to do that.
00:43:44.600 But just looking at them,
00:43:47.080 I really believe
00:43:48.200 that their motivation
00:43:49.800 is more about power,
00:43:51.640 and there is no
00:43:52.740 more powerful position
00:43:54.160 than being a health official
00:43:55.720 because you can
00:43:56.860 literally dictate.
00:43:58.000 I mean,
00:43:58.220 at this point,
00:43:59.840 Tony Fauci
00:44:00.840 has powers
00:44:02.240 that no American
00:44:03.140 president has ever had.
00:44:04.600 You know,
00:44:05.120 telling people
00:44:05.720 in California,
00:44:06.640 you can't go to the beach,
00:44:07.880 you can't go in the ocean,
00:44:09.620 you can't go shop,
00:44:11.620 your kids can't go to school,
00:44:13.800 you have to stay
00:44:14.640 in your house.
00:44:16.000 You're going to,
00:44:16.600 you know,
00:44:16.840 two days ago,
00:44:17.760 they were giving
00:44:18.360 $1,000 tickets
00:44:20.560 to people
00:44:21.040 who were swimming
00:44:21.600 in the ocean
00:44:22.220 and surfing.
00:44:23.600 No president's ever
00:44:24.760 had that kind
00:44:25.340 of power before,
00:44:26.060 but today,
00:44:27.000 Fauci,
00:44:27.720 who is very,
00:44:28.480 very close,
00:44:29.200 partners with Gates,
00:44:31.180 are telling America
00:44:31.960 and what they're saying,
00:44:33.140 if you listen carefully,
00:44:34.380 what they're saying is,
00:44:36.420 you all are going
00:44:38.180 to stay in the house
00:44:39.360 until we have a vaccine.
00:44:41.820 It's not going
00:44:42.300 to be safe to come out.
00:44:44.280 And that is
00:44:45.300 a tremendous power
00:44:46.140 to tell people
00:44:46.880 they have to wait
00:44:47.780 and do that
00:44:48.540 until you get the vaccine.
00:44:49.780 Now,
00:44:50.060 you know what,
00:44:50.520 I think
00:44:51.040 there is a struggle
00:44:53.300 between two different ways
00:44:55.040 to handle this quarantine.
00:44:57.880 And nobody,
00:44:59.320 everybody's saying
00:44:59.880 listen to the scientists.
00:45:02.040 But there's a flaw there,
00:45:04.480 which is the scientists
00:45:05.840 can tell you,
00:45:07.420 maybe,
00:45:08.000 can model,
00:45:09.060 they can model
00:45:09.700 how many people
00:45:11.380 are going to die
00:45:12.120 from coronavirus
00:45:13.080 using different scenarios.
00:45:16.700 You know,
00:45:17.440 if we all go back
00:45:19.160 to work tomorrow,
00:45:20.200 here's how many people die.
00:45:22.320 If we all stay
00:45:23.240 locked up for six months,
00:45:24.460 here's how many people.
00:45:25.400 And they can do that
00:45:26.140 probably pretty well.
00:45:28.160 Well,
00:45:28.300 people are saying,
00:45:28.900 listen to the scientists.
00:45:29.880 But there's something
00:45:30.580 that is not being modeled here,
00:45:32.880 which is something
00:45:34.640 that those scientists
00:45:35.740 have no expertise on,
00:45:37.700 which is how many people
00:45:38.940 are being killed
00:45:39.860 by the quarantine.
00:45:41.740 There's really good data
00:45:43.460 that is solid
00:45:45.840 from,
00:45:46.520 you know,
00:45:46.840 dozens and dozens
00:45:47.780 and some studies
00:45:48.560 that show
00:45:50.100 that,
00:45:52.200 number one,
00:45:53.100 isolation kills
00:45:54.340 lots of people.
00:45:56.440 It kills people
00:45:57.160 through depression,
00:45:58.160 it kills people
00:45:58.740 through mistakes,
00:45:59.840 it kills people
00:46:00.500 from not getting,
00:46:01.460 you know,
00:46:01.820 routine medical care.
00:46:04.120 It kills people
00:46:05.200 in a lot of different ways.
00:46:06.260 But also,
00:46:08.120 it,
00:46:08.780 unemployment kills people.
00:46:11.700 So there's a really good
00:46:13.040 1982 book
00:46:14.460 that's considered
00:46:15.180 authoritative.
00:46:17.000 And that book
00:46:17.920 did all of the modeling
00:46:19.140 on,
00:46:19.760 you know,
00:46:20.080 on historical
00:46:20.880 unemployment rates.
00:46:21.940 And this was a long time ago,
00:46:23.120 so our population
00:46:24.120 has almost doubled
00:46:25.380 since then.
00:46:27.060 But what they,
00:46:27.940 that book found
00:46:28.580 is that
00:46:29.060 for every point
00:46:30.520 in unemployment,
00:46:31.700 if there's
00:46:32.160 37,000 people die,
00:46:35.040 about 9,000 people
00:46:36.160 die from heart attacks,
00:46:37.680 about 900 people
00:46:38.660 die from suicides,
00:46:39.980 all these different reasons
00:46:41.200 that they die,
00:46:42.060 and then 3,300 people
00:46:45.480 go to prison
00:46:47.300 every one point,
00:46:48.920 and an extra 4,000 people
00:46:50.360 end up in mental institutions.
00:46:52.860 Oh, we're looking
00:46:53.620 at unemployment rates
00:46:54.660 from this quarantine
00:46:55.500 that are going
00:46:56.780 to exceed 35%.
00:46:58.920 In other words,
00:46:59.660 the increase
00:47:00.880 has gone from 3.5%
00:47:02.860 and it will go to 35%.
00:47:05.480 You multiply
00:47:07.320 37,000 by 30,
00:47:09.980 and you're looking
00:47:10.880 at over a million people,
00:47:12.160 about 1.1 million people
00:47:14.600 who could die
00:47:16.520 from the quarantine,
00:47:17.540 just from that metric.
00:47:19.280 And then there's
00:47:19.700 a lot of other metrics.
00:47:20.720 For example,
00:47:22.560 what do we,
00:47:23.000 you know,
00:47:23.220 we are hurting the,
00:47:25.560 we're disrupting
00:47:26.920 the food,
00:47:28.660 the supply chains
00:47:29.540 for foods
00:47:30.340 and medicines.
00:47:31.640 So people
00:47:32.260 are not going
00:47:32.920 to get their medicines,
00:47:33.860 people are not
00:47:34.320 going to get their foods.
00:47:35.320 this has nothing
00:47:36.560 to do with unemployment.
00:47:38.940 People are also,
00:47:40.280 today,
00:47:40.760 are not seeing doctors
00:47:42.160 for routine medication,
00:47:43.940 for routine treatment.
00:47:45.280 People who have cancer,
00:47:47.140 people who have diabetes,
00:47:49.140 people of hypertension,
00:47:50.540 who are skipping
00:47:51.300 doctor's appointments
00:47:52.300 because of the quarantine.
00:47:54.580 Those people
00:47:55.260 are also at risk.
00:47:56.320 And then there's
00:47:56.980 the impacts
00:47:57.820 on children
00:47:58.400 who aren't going
00:47:59.120 to school.
00:48:00.160 So there's
00:48:00.800 a tremendous amount
00:48:01.940 of impacts
00:48:02.880 that have not
00:48:03.680 been modeled.
00:48:04.600 And if we want
00:48:05.220 to have good public
00:48:06.200 policy in this country,
00:48:08.460 you need to actually
00:48:09.640 do a risk assessment
00:48:10.820 and say,
00:48:11.940 what are the full risks?
00:48:13.520 You know,
00:48:13.720 let's not just look
00:48:15.180 at the coronavirus deaths.
00:48:17.420 Let's look at that,
00:48:18.460 the deaths
00:48:18.860 on the alternative
00:48:19.920 coronavirus,
00:48:20.920 which is quarantine.
00:48:22.760 The Swedes did this
00:48:24.340 and they said,
00:48:26.180 it's not going to work.
00:48:28.320 And they looked at it
00:48:29.160 and they,
00:48:29.640 you know,
00:48:29.820 the chief epidemiologist
00:48:31.280 of Sweden said,
00:48:32.220 we're going to go
00:48:32.860 back to work
00:48:33.540 and we're not going
00:48:34.020 to have any
00:48:34.360 of these restrictions
00:48:35.160 on, you know,
00:48:37.380 social distancing,
00:48:38.420 et cetera.
00:48:38.880 We're going to protect
00:48:39.780 the elderly.
00:48:41.240 And this is what,
00:48:42.140 you know,
00:48:42.420 I think we all thought
00:48:43.540 was going to happen.
00:48:45.500 We would quarantine
00:48:46.520 for a couple of weeks
00:48:48.140 until the hospitals
00:48:49.280 could gear up,
00:48:50.380 until they could get
00:48:50.960 the beds,
00:48:51.700 they could get
00:48:52.180 the ventilators,
00:48:53.040 they could get
00:48:53.540 the testing kits,
00:48:56.820 they could get
00:48:57.440 the drugs,
00:48:59.140 you know,
00:49:00.000 the various therapeutics,
00:49:02.820 you know,
00:49:03.060 the IVs,
00:49:04.120 the vitamin C treatments,
00:49:05.380 the remsevere,
00:49:06.620 the chloroquine
00:49:07.880 or whatever.
00:49:09.400 And then we would
00:49:10.980 have an avalanche
00:49:12.160 where all the young people
00:49:14.020 who are in good condition
00:49:16.100 and who are not
00:49:16.880 very vulnerable to this
00:49:17.860 would come out
00:49:18.780 and resume life
00:49:19.740 as usual,
00:49:21.120 go to work,
00:49:21.800 go to play.
00:49:23.640 We would keep isolated
00:49:25.540 people who have
00:49:26.640 chronic health conditions
00:49:27.940 and the seniors
00:49:29.660 and elderly
00:49:30.260 because they're vulnerable.
00:49:32.320 And those people,
00:49:33.420 if you could show
00:49:34.040 that you have
00:49:34.440 a chronic health,
00:49:35.240 then we would pay
00:49:36.800 their paychecks
00:49:37.800 and take care of them
00:49:39.060 and keep them isolated
00:49:40.300 until the disease
00:49:42.500 runs through
00:49:43.100 the population
00:49:43.920 and we develop
00:49:45.420 a herd immunity
00:49:46.600 and then they're
00:49:47.580 protected by that.
00:49:49.500 And that,
00:49:50.220 and then also,
00:49:51.220 you know,
00:49:51.420 by that time
00:49:52.100 we have better therapeutics
00:49:53.500 that can really
00:49:54.140 treat this disease.
00:49:55.280 and that would be
00:49:57.180 a plan that would,
00:49:58.700 would not,
00:49:59.920 you know,
00:50:00.300 bankrupt generations
00:50:01.540 of Americans.
00:50:03.240 And,
00:50:03.760 and that's what
00:50:04.440 they're doing in Sweden.
00:50:05.800 And what they say
00:50:06.520 in Sweden is,
00:50:07.200 yes,
00:50:07.580 we do have a spike
00:50:08.900 in death rates
00:50:09.720 compared to Norway,
00:50:11.380 which is quarantine,
00:50:13.920 but a year from now,
00:50:15.720 we're going to have,
00:50:16.380 everybody's going to have
00:50:17.260 the same death rate.
00:50:18.560 Italy,
00:50:19.160 the U.S.,
00:50:20.000 you know,
00:50:20.500 Sweden,
00:50:21.260 everywhere's going to have
00:50:22.020 a year from now,
00:50:23.080 they're going to all
00:50:23.480 have the same death rate.
00:50:25.560 We will still have
00:50:26.360 an economy
00:50:26.880 and you will.
00:50:28.080 And I think
00:50:28.720 that's a risk,
00:50:29.580 you know,
00:50:29.880 that,
00:50:30.280 that is not being assessed.
00:50:32.320 And,
00:50:32.560 you know,
00:50:32.740 there's this
00:50:33.340 effort given to scientists
00:50:35.860 without actually
00:50:37.800 answering the question
00:50:39.260 is,
00:50:39.740 is this scientist
00:50:40.620 equipped to actually
00:50:41.920 give us advice
00:50:42.900 on this issue
00:50:43.660 or should we limit
00:50:45.360 his advice
00:50:46.060 to what his expertise is?
00:50:48.240 Tony Fauci
00:50:48.980 has zero
00:50:50.460 training
00:50:51.860 and zero capacity
00:50:53.700 and has probably
00:50:55.500 never read
00:50:56.160 a single study
00:50:57.340 about the cost
00:50:59.180 of unemployment
00:51:00.360 on public health.
00:51:02.880 He knows about
00:51:03.940 virology
00:51:04.700 and immunology.
00:51:06.940 He doesn't know
00:51:07.560 anything about
00:51:08.140 these other impacts.
00:51:09.200 Why is he calling
00:51:10.120 the shots?
00:51:11.820 Why is he calling
00:51:12.580 the shots?
00:51:13.440 Well,
00:51:13.900 you know,
00:51:14.640 I think that is
00:51:15.720 a combination
00:51:17.800 of things
00:51:18.620 and some of it,
00:51:19.780 a lot of it
00:51:20.360 has to do
00:51:21.060 with the,
00:51:21.740 the incapacity,
00:51:25.440 the,
00:51:25.740 the acquired incapacity
00:51:28.240 of Anderson Cooper
00:51:29.800 and CNN
00:51:32.160 to scrutinize
00:51:36.560 the orthodoxies
00:51:39.000 of the pharmaceutical
00:51:40.340 and medical cartels.
00:51:43.200 They will not ask
00:51:44.280 the questions.
00:51:44.940 And,
00:51:46.160 you know,
00:51:46.620 if they,
00:51:47.160 if Tony Fauci
00:51:47.900 tell them,
00:51:49.440 tell them,
00:51:49.880 a flu shot
00:51:50.660 is good for you,
00:51:51.920 it's proven to work,
00:51:53.280 they will believe that.
00:51:54.100 They won't actually
00:51:54.880 look at the science.
00:51:56.300 And,
00:51:56.520 you know,
00:51:56.700 the Cochran Collaboration,
00:51:59.160 which is the ultimate
00:51:59.940 arbiter on science,
00:52:01.720 the Cochran Collaboration
00:52:03.060 has looked at
00:52:04.140 every published flu study.
00:52:06.680 And what they've said
00:52:07.860 is the flu vaccine
00:52:10.280 does not work.
00:52:11.460 It does not prevent deaths
00:52:13.260 in the elderly.
00:52:14.860 It actually enhances,
00:52:17.520 it makes you more vulnerable
00:52:19.300 to non-flu infections.
00:52:22.100 CNN every year,
00:52:23.280 let me tell you this,
00:52:24.200 Patrick,
00:52:24.660 every year,
00:52:25.480 CNN releases
00:52:27.080 flu death data.
00:52:30.040 And that data
00:52:31.380 is not real data.
00:52:34.080 It's fake data.
00:52:35.540 So,
00:52:36.060 and I'll tell you
00:52:36.860 what they do.
00:52:37.440 the CDC
00:52:39.780 actually does
00:52:41.200 very good
00:52:42.240 data gathering.
00:52:43.600 And it assembles
00:52:44.360 the data
00:52:44.820 on American health
00:52:46.140 and death certificates
00:52:47.320 in an index
00:52:49.360 called the mortality
00:52:50.300 and morbidity data.
00:52:52.220 And if you go
00:52:52.920 to the mortality
00:52:53.540 and morbidity data,
00:52:54.940 you can see
00:52:55.680 how many flu deaths
00:52:56.800 actually happen
00:52:57.760 in America
00:52:58.540 every year.
00:52:59.480 But nobody does that.
00:53:01.520 And instead,
00:53:02.740 CNN reports
00:53:04.120 every year
00:53:04.960 that the flu deaths
00:53:06.220 in this country
00:53:06.840 were between
00:53:07.460 60,000 and 90,000.
00:53:09.560 And they'll say
00:53:10.200 it's worse than ever.
00:53:11.760 It could be
00:53:12.720 95,000 deaths
00:53:14.180 this year
00:53:14.660 from flu.
00:53:16.320 Take your flu shot.
00:53:17.400 And if you go around
00:53:18.380 and ask people,
00:53:19.160 do you actually know
00:53:19.920 anybody who's ever
00:53:20.660 died of a flu?
00:53:21.920 Most people will tell you
00:53:22.820 no.
00:53:23.700 If 95,000 people
00:53:25.160 were dying every year
00:53:26.160 of flu,
00:53:26.520 we'd all know
00:53:27.200 people who died
00:53:27.900 of the flu.
00:53:28.280 The truth is
00:53:30.200 at the year
00:53:31.600 they said 95,000,
00:53:32.920 which was two years ago,
00:53:33.940 there were 2,000 people
00:53:35.040 who died of the flu.
00:53:36.840 The average death rate
00:53:38.140 for the flu
00:53:38.740 over the past 20 years
00:53:40.160 is around 1,000 people a year.
00:53:42.940 And what they do
00:53:44.240 is they conflate
00:53:45.360 the mortality
00:53:47.900 and morbidity data
00:53:48.900 for pneumonia
00:53:49.860 with the flu.
00:53:51.960 And only 7%
00:53:53.460 of pneumonial cases
00:53:54.620 are actually caused
00:53:55.580 by the flu
00:53:56.160 of pneumonia deaths.
00:53:57.360 The rest of them
00:53:58.340 are non-flu
00:53:59.320 or respiratory infections.
00:54:03.600 So CNN
00:54:04.120 just lies about that
00:54:05.560 every year.
00:54:06.380 And I don't think
00:54:07.080 Sanjay Gupta
00:54:07.900 and Anderson Cooper
00:54:08.920 actually want to lie,
00:54:11.000 but it's part
00:54:11.800 of their gestalt.
00:54:14.640 They're, you know,
00:54:15.380 they're supposed
00:54:15.860 to push the flu vaccine.
00:54:17.400 They're supposed
00:54:17.800 to scare the hell
00:54:18.520 out of everybody
00:54:19.200 and make everybody
00:54:19.920 think they're going
00:54:20.480 to die
00:54:20.820 if they don't get it.
00:54:22.400 Well, they do that.
00:54:23.420 And the fact is
00:54:24.760 that the flu
00:54:25.420 does not kill
00:54:26.620 that many people
00:54:27.320 in this country.
00:54:27.980 It's not a dangerous disease.
00:54:30.100 And the flu vaccine
00:54:32.120 costs a lot more harm
00:54:34.080 than the flu does.
00:54:35.400 For somebody
00:54:36.280 that's watching
00:54:36.840 is saying,
00:54:38.000 Robert,
00:54:38.580 why is your data right
00:54:39.940 and not their data?
00:54:41.040 If you're saying
00:54:41.480 only 1,000 versus 60,
00:54:43.040 that's a big difference.
00:54:44.060 Listen,
00:54:44.800 nobody should trust me
00:54:46.060 and nobody should
00:54:48.060 trust Anderson Cooper
00:54:49.100 and nobody should
00:54:50.120 trust Tony Fauci.
00:54:51.540 They should trust
00:54:52.140 the science.
00:54:53.060 And what I'm using
00:54:54.260 is not my data.
00:54:55.640 It's their data.
00:54:57.380 And, you know,
00:54:58.040 I've written a letter
00:54:59.660 to Sanjay Gupta
00:55:00.700 outlining all
00:55:03.700 of the standard
00:55:04.520 in a very polite
00:55:05.980 civil letter,
00:55:06.860 but just saying,
00:55:07.640 you know,
00:55:07.820 Sanjay,
00:55:08.340 I admire you a lot
00:55:09.380 and I know you're
00:55:10.020 not deliberately
00:55:10.560 doing this,
00:55:11.340 but you say
00:55:12.280 these things
00:55:13.140 every year
00:55:13.960 and here's why
00:55:14.980 each of them
00:55:15.560 is wrong
00:55:16.000 according to CNN
00:55:18.180 and stated.
00:55:19.060 Now,
00:55:19.360 everything I say
00:55:21.260 on my Instagram page,
00:55:23.000 every single statement
00:55:24.400 is sourced
00:55:25.640 and cited.
00:55:27.720 You can't do it
00:55:28.920 on Instagram
00:55:29.560 because Instagram
00:55:30.420 doesn't let you link.
00:55:31.740 So I always publish it
00:55:32.920 first on Instagram
00:55:33.860 because that's kind of
00:55:34.840 my, you know,
00:55:35.840 best platform.
00:55:39.160 But I always,
00:55:40.940 you know,
00:55:41.280 usually within 24 hours,
00:55:42.880 reprint it
00:55:43.500 on Children's Health
00:55:44.540 Defense website
00:55:45.320 with all the sites
00:55:46.880 and with all the sourcing
00:55:48.020 there,
00:55:48.340 but we don't say
00:55:49.120 if I said something
00:55:51.180 that was untrue,
00:55:52.300 people would be
00:55:52.960 all over me.
00:55:54.060 If I,
00:55:54.500 you know,
00:55:54.920 my enemies
00:55:55.920 are watching everything
00:55:57.000 that I say,
00:55:57.780 the pharmaceutical industry
00:55:58.760 is watching everything
00:55:59.580 I say,
00:56:00.100 so I am very,
00:56:01.560 very careful
00:56:02.320 that any public statement
00:56:04.700 that I make
00:56:05.460 is sourced.
00:56:06.320 and, you know,
00:56:07.920 if I made a mistake,
00:56:10.680 which I'm sure
00:56:11.360 at some point
00:56:12.260 is possible
00:56:12.840 for me to do,
00:56:14.500 and somebody told me
00:56:15.420 I made a mistake,
00:56:16.220 I would immediately
00:56:17.040 go and correct it.
00:56:18.120 But we don't,
00:56:19.000 you know,
00:56:19.180 we have a whole staff
00:56:20.480 of doctors,
00:56:21.360 nurses,
00:56:21.720 and scientists
00:56:22.740 who review.
00:56:24.840 I submit all of my,
00:56:26.460 you know,
00:56:26.940 my Instagram postings
00:56:28.500 to them
00:56:29.000 before I put them up
00:56:30.080 and I say,
00:56:31.140 can you go through this
00:56:32.160 and source everything
00:56:33.440 and tell me
00:56:34.140 if I've made a mistake?
00:56:35.560 So, you know,
00:56:36.160 we really are careful
00:56:38.060 about making sure
00:56:39.020 everything is sourced
00:56:40.900 to peer review
00:56:41.680 or to a government database.
00:56:45.380 Who's on your side,
00:56:46.480 by the way?
00:56:46.800 Because your position,
00:56:47.860 I mean,
00:56:48.060 I saw the letter
00:56:49.540 your family wrote to you.
00:56:50.940 This was about a year ago.
00:56:52.780 And, you know,
00:56:53.700 RFK is our brother
00:56:54.840 and uncle.
00:56:55.420 He's tragically wrong
00:56:56.340 about vaccines.
00:56:57.080 We love RFK,
00:56:58.400 but he's part
00:56:59.140 of the misinformation
00:57:00.060 campaign that's heartbreaking
00:57:01.320 and deadly consequences.
00:57:03.180 Who's on you?
00:57:03.900 Because when you're talking,
00:57:05.160 if somebody's listening
00:57:06.120 that's in the middle,
00:57:07.100 not a person
00:57:08.220 that's on a big pharma side,
00:57:09.380 say they're CNN,
00:57:10.560 Cooper, Guptall,
00:57:11.300 or not somebody
00:57:11.960 that's on the other side,
00:57:12.800 but somebody that says,
00:57:13.980 a lot of the stuff
00:57:15.300 he's saying
00:57:15.740 makes a lot of sense.
00:57:17.280 Who else is on your side
00:57:18.740 that's a big name
00:57:20.340 and a credible source?
00:57:26.140 You know,
00:57:27.080 listen,
00:57:27.620 we have a lot of doctors
00:57:28.860 and nurses
00:57:29.800 and nurses
00:57:29.820 on our side
00:57:31.160 and scientists
00:57:32.180 who are on our side.
00:57:33.700 They're not household names.
00:57:36.360 There are people
00:57:37.040 who are known
00:57:38.100 in the,
00:57:39.020 you know,
00:57:39.260 in scientific fields.
00:57:40.480 For example,
00:57:41.500 you know,
00:57:41.760 the world's top scientist
00:57:43.880 on African vaccines,
00:57:46.120 a guy in Danish,
00:57:48.460 scientist called Peter Aavey.
00:57:50.520 He has hundreds upon hundreds
00:57:52.020 of peer-reviewed publications,
00:57:53.360 and he was always against us
00:57:55.860 until he recently did a study
00:57:58.100 on the DTP vaccine
00:57:59.540 in Africa
00:58:00.200 and showed
00:58:01.960 that it's killing more people
00:58:04.560 than diphtheria,
00:58:05.640 tetanus,
00:58:05.980 and pertussis,
00:58:07.080 and that girls
00:58:08.800 who get the vaccine
00:58:10.100 are 10 times more likely
00:58:12.680 to die
00:58:13.140 than people
00:58:13.640 who don't get the vaccine.
00:58:15.500 And so,
00:58:16.040 and that brought him,
00:58:16.860 the data brought him over.
00:58:18.260 So we have,
00:58:20.380 you know,
00:58:20.660 there are many,
00:58:21.220 many doctors,
00:58:22.020 but they don't,
00:58:22.860 they don't want to
00:58:23.640 put their heads up
00:58:24.600 because their careers
00:58:25.380 are destroyed.
00:58:26.120 Scientists get their careers destroyed.
00:58:27.980 Journalists lose their careers.
00:58:30.260 People,
00:58:30.680 this is,
00:58:31.260 you know,
00:58:31.720 this is a career killer.
00:58:33.860 The reason
00:58:34.600 that I'm,
00:58:36.840 you know,
00:58:37.020 my name is prominent
00:58:38.200 is because
00:58:40.040 I,
00:58:41.960 you know,
00:58:42.820 I have a track record
00:58:45.020 and I'm a litigator.
00:58:47.160 I argued all these
00:58:48.760 important cases.
00:58:50.060 I was on trial teams
00:58:51.460 in the Monsanto cases
00:58:53.000 and on the case,
00:58:55.560 you know,
00:58:55.800 Mark Ruffler just made a movie
00:58:57.360 about one of my cases,
00:58:59.200 which was the,
00:59:00.060 which was the DuPont case
00:59:02.260 in West Virginia.
00:59:05.360 And,
00:59:06.000 you know,
00:59:06.360 I've been involved
00:59:07.020 in hundreds of lawsuits.
00:59:08.440 I've helped start
00:59:09.220 hundreds of environmental groups
00:59:11.280 and I have a track record
00:59:12.600 and I have friends
00:59:13.640 and I have resilience
00:59:14.580 because of that
00:59:15.560 and because of my family name
00:59:17.140 also
00:59:17.660 and I have a high profile
00:59:18.600 and I have resilience.
00:59:20.140 But otherwise,
00:59:21.020 the industry
00:59:21.660 has spent 15 years,
00:59:23.560 you know,
00:59:23.860 battering me
00:59:24.620 and besieging me
00:59:25.480 and I've lost
00:59:26.120 a lot of friendships
00:59:27.860 and I've lost
00:59:28.720 a lot of business relationships
00:59:30.660 and other relationships
00:59:32.360 and credibility
00:59:33.740 with people
00:59:34.480 who just believe,
00:59:35.580 oh,
00:59:36.200 who never hear my arguments.
00:59:38.980 They never hear them.
00:59:40.620 All they hear is,
00:59:41.900 he's an anti-vaxxer
00:59:42.960 and they say,
00:59:43.940 well,
00:59:44.040 that's wrong.
00:59:44.700 You know,
00:59:45.120 my family,
00:59:47.360 even those three members
00:59:48.900 of my family
00:59:49.440 who wrote that article,
00:59:50.400 I have a big family
00:59:51.420 and I have supporters
00:59:52.360 in the family too,
00:59:53.700 but the three members
00:59:54.640 who wrote that article
00:59:55.800 accused me
00:59:57.380 of being an anti-vaxxer.
00:59:59.000 Oh,
00:59:59.240 and I'm not,
00:59:59.960 I've never said anything
01:00:01.460 anti-vaccine
01:00:02.420 and I'm not anti-vaccine.
01:00:05.540 What I've said is
01:00:06.600 a vaccine should be safe
01:00:09.100 and effective
01:00:09.740 and that they shouldn't
01:00:10.820 be mandated in any case.
01:00:13.100 But if you can make
01:00:14.020 a vaccine that is proven
01:00:15.560 to be safe
01:00:16.160 and proven to be effective,
01:00:17.360 I wouldn't be against it.
01:00:19.440 But let's do,
01:00:20.680 let's walk through the proof.
01:00:23.060 You know,
01:00:23.460 I've spent 37 years
01:00:25.780 trying to get mercury
01:00:28.300 out of fish.
01:00:29.880 Nobody calls me anti-fish.
01:00:32.540 I've spent 37 years
01:00:34.260 trying to get pesticides
01:00:35.200 out of food.
01:00:36.420 Nobody calls me anti-food.
01:00:37.860 I've spent 30 years
01:00:40.820 trying to get,
01:00:42.540 to improve fuel efficiency
01:00:44.780 or get carbon fuel
01:00:46.120 out of automobiles.
01:00:47.180 My, you know,
01:00:47.980 my partnership
01:00:48.820 was the biggest investor
01:00:50.200 in Tesla
01:00:50.860 and the first investor
01:00:53.840 in Tesla.
01:00:55.240 And, you know,
01:00:56.360 I was part of a partnership
01:00:57.760 that built the two biggest
01:00:59.300 solar plants in our country.
01:01:02.960 I want to get,
01:01:04.000 I want to get carbon
01:01:05.340 out of our energy system.
01:01:06.780 Nobody calls me
01:01:07.580 anti-energy.
01:01:09.180 I'm not anti-vaccine.
01:01:11.060 I just want,
01:01:12.380 say,
01:01:12.840 good science,
01:01:13.860 robust science,
01:01:15.540 independent regulators
01:01:16.740 and safety.
01:01:18.960 Oh, I've never said
01:01:20.000 I was anti-vaccine.
01:01:21.080 People call me that
01:01:21.920 because it's a way
01:01:22.480 of marginalizing me.
01:01:24.440 It's a way
01:01:25.180 of making people think
01:01:26.240 I'm a crackpot,
01:01:27.600 you know,
01:01:27.940 and keeping me silent
01:01:29.380 and censoring me
01:01:32.540 because, you know,
01:01:33.400 he's anti-vax,
01:01:34.280 he's dangerous,
01:01:35.020 don't let people hear him
01:01:35.900 because it will spread
01:01:36.580 like a virus.
01:01:38.540 And so,
01:01:39.240 they keep me off of TV,
01:01:40.520 they keep me off
01:01:41.120 of social media,
01:01:41.980 they keep me out
01:01:42.580 of the newspapers,
01:01:43.260 and it allows everybody,
01:01:45.120 including three members
01:01:46.320 of my family,
01:01:48.100 to say,
01:01:49.100 you know,
01:01:49.580 we don't like what he says
01:01:50.580 because he's anti-vax,
01:01:51.420 but they never heard
01:01:52.100 what I said.
01:01:54.100 Do you guys still do
01:01:55.900 family reunions
01:01:56.640 where everybody gets together?
01:01:57.520 You know what,
01:01:59.300 Patrick,
01:01:59.940 I had 11 brothers
01:02:01.080 and sisters.
01:02:02.760 My parents encouraged us
01:02:05.800 every night
01:02:06.560 to get in arguments,
01:02:08.540 and that's what we did.
01:02:09.680 We always had one discussion
01:02:11.200 at the dinner table,
01:02:13.200 and we,
01:02:13.760 you know,
01:02:14.280 there would be topics,
01:02:15.560 and we would argue about them.
01:02:17.460 Should,
01:02:17.800 should,
01:02:18.160 I remember my father
01:02:19.380 saying,
01:02:20.360 you know,
01:02:20.760 should we get out
01:02:21.460 of Vietnam?
01:02:22.860 Is it good to take LSD?
01:02:25.660 Does God exist?
01:02:27.860 You know,
01:02:28.100 all of these things,
01:02:29.020 they would throw them out,
01:02:30.120 and then we would argue about them,
01:02:31.840 and they would,
01:02:32.580 you know,
01:02:32.880 coach us on our arguments.
01:02:34.160 My grandfather
01:02:35.140 did the same thing
01:02:36.980 to his kids.
01:02:37.860 He'd say,
01:02:38.380 you know,
01:02:38.560 should we be in the,
01:02:40.280 should we join the war in Spain?
01:02:42.940 Is fascism good for Italy?
01:02:45.280 You know,
01:02:45.560 whatever,
01:02:46.960 and make us argue it,
01:02:49.060 and encourage us
01:02:50.300 to take extreme points of view
01:02:52.060 and talk about them.
01:02:53.240 So,
01:02:54.360 like,
01:02:54.640 if somebody in my family
01:02:56.240 argues,
01:02:57.340 against my position
01:02:58.560 is not troublesome to me,
01:03:00.780 and in no way
01:03:02.060 would that ever affect
01:03:03.280 my relationship with them.
01:03:04.900 I understand,
01:03:06.200 you know,
01:03:06.520 we need debate.
01:03:07.660 That's what we ought
01:03:08.260 to be doing.
01:03:09.440 We ought to be debating this stuff.
01:03:11.280 Everybody should,
01:03:12.180 and we should be able
01:03:13.220 to do it without,
01:03:14.720 you know,
01:03:15.800 without vitriol
01:03:17.180 and without anger,
01:03:18.900 and,
01:03:19.220 you know,
01:03:19.660 and that's what you want
01:03:21.160 in a civil society.
01:03:22.500 You want civil debate
01:03:24.440 and respect for other
01:03:25.600 people's positions.
01:03:26.820 I posted something
01:03:27.740 on Twitter earlier,
01:03:29.060 and this is the question
01:03:29.800 I asked.
01:03:30.380 I said,
01:03:31.340 what topic generally
01:03:33.360 creates the most
01:03:35.020 heated debate
01:03:35.920 between you and your family?
01:03:37.360 I'm just curious
01:03:37.900 to know what people
01:03:38.360 are going to say,
01:03:39.000 right?
01:03:39.240 And they said,
01:03:40.360 you know,
01:03:40.980 pro-life,
01:03:42.100 pro-choice,
01:03:43.140 you know,
01:03:43.560 who's the greatest
01:03:44.220 of all time,
01:03:44.840 Michael Jordan
01:03:45.400 or LeBron,
01:03:46.020 some of them
01:03:46.340 were sports,
01:03:47.100 but the most,
01:03:49.020 the most comment here,
01:03:50.900 the one that came up
01:03:51.700 the most was vaccine.
01:03:54.060 Vaccine is the one
01:03:55.160 that creates
01:03:55.780 the most heated debate
01:03:57.160 amongst people.
01:03:58.140 Why do you think
01:03:58.740 that is?
01:04:01.080 Well,
01:04:01.680 it's clear
01:04:02.520 why it is
01:04:03.600 because we're doing
01:04:04.680 something that we've
01:04:05.480 never done before.
01:04:06.500 We're telling people,
01:04:08.020 you have to take
01:04:09.880 this medication,
01:04:10.680 and we're taking
01:04:11.980 doctors who,
01:04:13.500 you know,
01:04:13.780 have this sacred
01:04:14.680 for 2,000 years
01:04:16.520 since Hippocrates,
01:04:18.960 had a sacred
01:04:20.220 relationship
01:04:21.760 with the patient
01:04:22.860 where that doctor
01:04:24.120 is treating you
01:04:25.380 and owes you
01:04:27.720 his complete allegiance,
01:04:29.100 his silence,
01:04:30.940 his confidentiality,
01:04:32.980 his best judgment
01:04:34.020 about your condition,
01:04:35.340 and is trying
01:04:36.080 to heal you.
01:04:38.420 We've now profoundly
01:04:40.000 and dramatically
01:04:41.040 changed the role
01:04:41.860 of the doctor.
01:04:42.940 The doctor is now
01:04:43.980 the agent
01:04:44.700 of state power
01:04:45.900 and state policy,
01:04:47.580 and he's saying,
01:04:49.140 even though you're
01:04:49.860 a completely healthy kid,
01:04:51.600 I'm going to give you
01:04:52.920 a risky medication
01:04:54.160 so that you can
01:04:55.080 protect somebody else,
01:04:56.640 allegedly,
01:04:58.100 you know,
01:04:58.360 which basically,
01:04:59.260 which, by the way,
01:05:01.260 that ain't true.
01:05:02.280 you're much more likely
01:05:03.320 to get chicken pox
01:05:04.560 from a vaccinated person
01:05:05.940 or measles
01:05:06.720 than you are
01:05:07.300 from an unvaccinated person.
01:05:09.240 Much more likely.
01:05:10.800 You're much more likely
01:05:11.640 to get polio
01:05:12.480 from a vaccinated person
01:05:13.880 than an unvaccinated.
01:05:14.720 70% of the polio
01:05:16.060 in the world
01:05:16.900 is vaccine strain.
01:05:19.060 That means you've got it
01:05:20.140 from a vaccinated person.
01:05:22.380 Oh, that is a mythology
01:05:23.860 that unvaccinated people
01:05:25.400 are dangerous.
01:05:27.140 It's the fact,
01:05:27.760 if you look at the,
01:05:29.020 the manufacturer's insert
01:05:31.460 for chicken pox,
01:05:33.180 it says on the manufacturer's insert,
01:05:35.600 after you receive this vaccine,
01:05:37.220 do not be in proximity
01:05:38.900 of pregnant women
01:05:39.840 or immunocompromised people
01:05:41.240 for six weeks.
01:05:43.440 Nobody ever does that.
01:05:44.680 They go back to school
01:05:45.480 the next day
01:05:46.120 and they spread the chicken pox.
01:05:48.680 And, you know,
01:05:49.400 pertussis,
01:05:50.160 you become an asymptomatic carrier.
01:05:52.500 You're spreading pertussis.
01:05:53.820 Whereas if you actually
01:05:55.280 were unvaccinated
01:05:56.160 and you got pertussis,
01:05:57.180 you wouldn't know it.
01:05:58.420 You get a whooping cough
01:05:59.360 and you'd stay home
01:06:00.220 and you wouldn't be spreading it.
01:06:02.040 When you're given
01:06:02.720 the pertussis vaccine,
01:06:04.000 you got it.
01:06:05.240 Well, you don't know you got it,
01:06:06.500 but you're spreading it
01:06:07.380 to other people.
01:06:08.800 And, you know,
01:06:09.580 and so the vaccines
01:06:10.860 are actually
01:06:11.660 more likely to spread disease
01:06:14.960 than if you're unvaccinated.
01:06:18.300 1961, your uncle,
01:06:20.240 President John F. Kennedy,
01:06:21.400 urged 80 million Americans,
01:06:22.860 including almost 5 million children
01:06:24.500 who had not been vaccinated
01:06:25.640 for polio
01:06:26.260 to receive the Salk vaccine,
01:06:27.740 which he called
01:06:28.280 the miraculous drug.
01:06:30.200 Do you think
01:06:30.940 he would have
01:06:31.440 the same position today
01:06:32.920 as he did in 1961?
01:06:34.840 You know,
01:06:35.480 I don't want to speak
01:06:36.160 to my uncle,
01:06:36.920 for my uncle.
01:06:38.880 Of course,
01:06:39.580 he was for that.
01:06:41.500 And we only had
01:06:42.800 two vaccines then.
01:06:44.400 You know,
01:06:44.680 I had the polio
01:06:45.720 Salk vaccine.
01:06:47.680 We didn't know
01:06:48.260 any of the problems
01:06:49.020 with vaccines then.
01:06:50.280 We didn't have,
01:06:51.220 you know,
01:06:51.420 most of the vaccines today,
01:06:54.460 only it was
01:06:54.980 a healthcare crisis.
01:06:56.360 Most of the vaccines,
01:06:57.360 when they put
01:06:57.760 all these vaccines
01:06:58.580 on a schedule,
01:07:00.140 almost none of them
01:07:01.160 were dangerous diseases,
01:07:02.740 casually contagious diseases
01:07:04.140 that were going to spread.
01:07:06.240 Why do we need
01:07:06.860 a hepatitis B vaccine?
01:07:08.520 Hepatitis B vaccine
01:07:09.700 is given
01:07:10.720 every child
01:07:11.540 the day they're born.
01:07:13.340 And the only way
01:07:14.820 you can get it
01:07:15.560 from your mom
01:07:16.080 if she has it
01:07:16.780 when you're being born,
01:07:17.840 but every mother
01:07:18.620 is tested
01:07:19.260 in every hospital
01:07:20.600 in every state
01:07:21.880 in this country.
01:07:23.980 So that's a very
01:07:24.740 small amount of kids
01:07:26.000 and they,
01:07:26.840 you can give them
01:07:27.460 the vaccine.
01:07:28.900 The only other way
01:07:29.780 you get that
01:07:30.380 hepatitis B
01:07:32.180 is from,
01:07:33.000 is from sex,
01:07:36.180 you know,
01:07:36.740 and,
01:07:37.400 or from hypodermic needle,
01:07:39.060 unprotected sex
01:07:39.880 or hypodermic needles.
01:07:40.740 That little child
01:07:41.800 is at zero risk.
01:07:44.020 Why are we giving
01:07:45.000 them that vaccine?
01:07:46.780 The hepatitis B vaccine
01:07:47.880 was manufactured
01:07:48.800 by Merck
01:07:49.520 for male homosexuals
01:07:52.500 who had,
01:07:53.220 who had a plague
01:07:53.980 of hepatitis B
01:07:54.880 because of the kind
01:07:56.120 of sex they were having.
01:07:58.100 And,
01:07:58.680 and for heroin addicts
01:08:01.320 and,
01:08:02.240 and for prostitutes
01:08:03.680 and that's it.
01:08:04.960 That's why they developed it
01:08:06.100 and guess what happened?
01:08:08.080 None of those people
01:08:09.460 used the vaccine.
01:08:11.420 They couldn't sell
01:08:12.260 any of them.
01:08:13.000 So they went back,
01:08:14.320 Merck went back
01:08:15.020 to CDC
01:08:15.580 and said,
01:08:17.500 we're not selling
01:08:18.100 this product.
01:08:18.920 It's a loss leader
01:08:19.800 for us.
01:08:22.080 Order it,
01:08:22.800 give it to children.
01:08:24.420 And CDC does
01:08:25.460 whatever Merck tells them.
01:08:27.360 They ordered it
01:08:28.240 for every child.
01:08:29.040 Now,
01:08:29.520 the vaccine only
01:08:30.280 lasts two years.
01:08:31.920 So that child
01:08:32.880 is not going to sleep
01:08:33.740 with a prostitute
01:08:34.680 between the day
01:08:36.580 they're born
01:08:37.040 and the day
01:08:37.480 they're two years old
01:08:38.380 or the day
01:08:39.480 they're 10
01:08:39.860 and they're given
01:08:40.340 five of those vaccines
01:08:41.580 because they only
01:08:42.140 last two years.
01:08:44.260 The only reason
01:08:45.640 for that vaccine,
01:08:46.760 the only reason
01:08:47.800 is to enrich
01:08:48.760 that company
01:08:49.420 and it kills
01:08:50.640 lots and lots
01:08:51.840 and lots of kids
01:08:52.820 every year.
01:08:54.400 That's one.
01:08:56.120 There's many other vaccines
01:08:57.660 that are clearly
01:08:58.580 killing today
01:08:59.860 more children
01:09:00.820 than they're saving.
01:09:01.780 Another one of those
01:09:02.920 would be
01:09:03.580 the rotavirus vaccine
01:09:04.760 which again
01:09:06.080 was got on the
01:09:07.120 you know,
01:09:08.480 did you grow up
01:09:10.040 with a great fear
01:09:11.000 of rotavirus?
01:09:12.580 No.
01:09:13.160 No,
01:09:13.660 of course not.
01:09:14.660 It wasn't a threatening
01:09:15.520 disease in our,
01:09:16.820 you know,
01:09:17.400 our generation
01:09:18.340 or any generation.
01:09:20.080 It's not a threatening,
01:09:21.240 there are more
01:09:22.200 rotavirus cases today
01:09:24.420 which is,
01:09:25.240 you know,
01:09:25.460 a couple hundred
01:09:26.160 deaths a year
01:09:26.980 than there were
01:09:28.640 before the rotavirus vaccine.
01:09:30.380 The rotavirus vaccine
01:09:32.180 contains a port virus,
01:09:37.040 a pig virus
01:09:37.660 because it's made
01:09:38.380 on pig tissue
01:09:39.440 that we know
01:09:41.420 causes cancer
01:09:43.040 and behavioral problems
01:09:44.640 in pigs.
01:09:46.280 Why would we give that,
01:09:47.580 why would we take the risk
01:09:48.700 and give that vaccine
01:09:49.900 to every American child?
01:09:53.120 They have no idea
01:09:53.880 whether it's causing
01:09:54.780 those cancers in kids.
01:09:57.500 And if you go through
01:09:58.660 these vaccines
01:09:59.480 one at a time
01:10:00.540 and you say,
01:10:01.740 do we really need
01:10:02.560 this vaccine?
01:10:03.240 Most of them is,
01:10:04.080 no, we don't.
01:10:05.040 And prior to 85,
01:10:07.040 almost none of them existed.
01:10:08.640 80% of the vaccines
01:10:09.780 we have
01:10:10.460 were after 85
01:10:12.760 and there weren't huge,
01:10:14.140 you know,
01:10:14.940 epidemics
01:10:15.580 of infectious diseases
01:10:16.820 killing Americans
01:10:17.880 at that time.
01:10:18.740 Even measles.
01:10:20.720 Measles mortalities
01:10:23.040 had 99% disappeared
01:10:28.000 prior to the introduction
01:10:29.680 of the vaccine.
01:10:31.560 In 63,
01:10:32.820 there were only 400 kids
01:10:34.260 who died of measles
01:10:35.200 out of a population
01:10:36.600 of 200 million Americans.
01:10:39.140 They were almost all
01:10:40.440 black children
01:10:41.300 from the Mississippi Delta
01:10:42.860 who were actually dying
01:10:44.260 of malnutrition
01:10:45.060 and this was before
01:10:45.900 the poverty programs.
01:10:48.080 And, you know,
01:10:48.680 the likelihood is
01:10:49.640 measles mortalities
01:10:50.700 would have disappeared
01:10:51.560 altogether.
01:10:52.320 And now measles
01:10:52.940 is going to come back
01:10:53.780 and cause us
01:10:54.360 a lot of problems
01:10:55.220 because the vaccine
01:10:56.680 is doing things.
01:10:59.880 It's forcing measles
01:11:02.080 to older populations
01:11:03.320 and much younger populations
01:11:04.700 who should not
01:11:05.440 be getting measles.
01:11:07.840 There's data saying
01:11:08.840 that measles
01:11:09.400 is back on increase.
01:11:11.140 110,000 people
01:11:12.180 are now dying
01:11:12.700 from measles every year.
01:11:13.520 Matter of fact,
01:11:13.780 that's in the same letter
01:11:14.520 that your family wrote.
01:11:15.700 But, you know,
01:11:16.200 this leads me
01:11:17.040 to something here right now
01:11:18.040 because World Health Organization
01:11:19.360 is...
01:11:19.400 By the way,
01:11:20.240 there's a lot of problems
01:11:21.260 with that data.
01:11:21.960 If you look
01:11:22.340 in the United States,
01:11:24.280 there's zero measles deaths.
01:11:26.320 Zero.
01:11:27.040 And the people
01:11:27.720 who are now getting measles
01:11:29.320 are older people.
01:11:31.200 The last epidemic
01:11:33.120 in California
01:11:33.840 is 79% of the people
01:11:35.340 who got measles
01:11:35.880 were adults.
01:11:37.100 And you're not...
01:11:38.420 Adults are not supposed
01:11:39.240 to get measles.
01:11:41.000 World Health Organization
01:11:42.020 and little babies
01:11:43.500 are now getting it
01:11:44.360 when they're, you know,
01:11:45.280 two weeks old.
01:11:46.120 And they used
01:11:46.640 to have maternal immunity,
01:11:47.840 but the vaccine
01:11:48.400 doesn't give you that.
01:11:49.360 And they're too young
01:11:50.260 to get the vaccine.
01:11:52.140 A lot of those kids
01:11:53.020 are going to end up dying.
01:11:55.020 The measles...
01:11:56.700 And the, you know,
01:11:57.340 the World Health data,
01:11:58.720 which you just read,
01:12:00.760 is there's a lot of scams
01:12:02.720 in collecting that data.
01:12:04.740 And the kids
01:12:05.540 who die of measles today
01:12:07.760 are severely malnourished kids
01:12:11.420 in Africa.
01:12:12.200 And, you know,
01:12:13.940 the problem is,
01:12:15.900 is nourishment.
01:12:17.600 Measles disappeared
01:12:18.360 in this country
01:12:19.080 when we started
01:12:20.320 having good sanitation
01:12:21.620 and good nutrition.
01:12:23.380 And, you know,
01:12:23.920 again,
01:12:24.260 that's not me saying it.
01:12:26.320 The CDC did a major study
01:12:28.480 on this mythology
01:12:31.060 that vaccines eradicated
01:12:33.460 all these mortalities
01:12:34.740 from infectious diseases.
01:12:37.040 Their conclusion from that,
01:12:38.420 which is on my Instagram,
01:12:39.440 anybody can read their study
01:12:41.140 with a quote
01:12:42.100 from Johns Hopkins and CDC,
01:12:45.340 thus vaccination
01:12:46.460 had almost nothing to do
01:12:48.460 with the disappearance
01:12:49.720 of disease mortalities
01:12:52.060 in the first half
01:12:53.740 of the 20th century.
01:12:55.520 Vaccines didn't do it.
01:12:56.840 It was nutrition.
01:12:58.580 It was sanitation.
01:12:59.600 It was good food,
01:13:01.120 electric refrigeration,
01:13:03.400 chlorinated water,
01:13:04.680 and electricity.
01:13:08.000 And that's what
01:13:08.820 eradicated disease.
01:13:10.300 That's why they still
01:13:11.080 have disease in Africa.
01:13:13.040 Now, you see
01:13:14.000 World Health Organization
01:13:15.340 also says that
01:13:16.160 because of vaccines,
01:13:17.100 it prevents 6 million
01:13:17.940 deaths per year.
01:13:18.880 So if they...
01:13:19.680 Yeah, I mean,
01:13:20.240 that's a...
01:13:22.160 There's no...
01:13:25.600 There's really no good way
01:13:27.740 to ascertain
01:13:31.340 or to judge that data.
01:13:32.760 You know, there's not...
01:13:35.300 They can't point
01:13:36.660 to a country, for example.
01:13:38.380 They'll say the DPT vaccine
01:13:40.480 saves millions of lives
01:13:42.780 and it is their most popular vaccine.
01:13:45.400 It's the most popular vaccine
01:13:46.580 in the world.
01:13:47.040 They're giving to every kid in Africa
01:13:48.560 and they gauge
01:13:50.260 national compliance
01:13:52.300 with vaccine mandates
01:13:56.600 by that vaccine.
01:13:58.720 A World Health Organization
01:14:00.180 funds most of the ministries
01:14:02.520 of health
01:14:03.000 for all these African countries
01:14:04.440 and it funds
01:14:05.280 their HIV programs.
01:14:06.800 So those countries
01:14:07.500 are very dependent
01:14:08.280 on World Health Organization
01:14:09.540 and World Health Organization
01:14:10.960 has a dictatorial control
01:14:12.560 over those countries.
01:14:14.260 It can tell them,
01:14:15.180 you must take this vaccine
01:14:16.340 and we're not going
01:14:16.920 to give you AIDS money.
01:14:19.300 And so they do it.
01:14:20.220 So they all take
01:14:20.880 the DPT vaccine
01:14:21.860 and nobody's ever
01:14:23.260 really looked
01:14:24.280 to see whether
01:14:25.760 the DPT vaccine
01:14:26.780 is actually saving lives.
01:14:28.540 Oh, in 2017,
01:14:31.400 the Danish government
01:14:32.400 got the best scientists
01:14:34.560 in the world
01:14:34.900 and one of the world's
01:14:36.380 biggest vaccine companies,
01:14:37.740 Staten Sarum Institute,
01:14:40.220 put together a study.
01:14:41.560 They brought together
01:14:42.320 the best scientists
01:14:43.140 in the world
01:14:43.660 and they looked at
01:14:45.220 populations
01:14:46.960 in the nation
01:14:47.760 of Guinea-Bissau
01:14:48.600 where half the kids
01:14:49.720 were vaccinated
01:14:50.360 between two and five months
01:14:51.960 of age
01:14:52.260 and half weren't.
01:14:53.300 So they had a perfect
01:14:54.180 natural experiment,
01:14:56.100 randomized populations,
01:14:57.560 half unvaccinated,
01:14:59.900 half vaccinated
01:15:00.660 and they looked
01:15:01.320 at the health impacts
01:15:02.180 and what they found
01:15:02.920 when they have
01:15:04.380 30 years of data.
01:15:07.020 They found that
01:15:08.000 the vaccine,
01:15:09.060 you were 10 times
01:15:10.760 more likely to die
01:15:11.920 if you got the vaccine
01:15:13.420 than if you didn't.
01:15:15.860 Oh, WHO,
01:15:18.340 the authors of that study
01:15:21.060 have been screaming
01:15:23.260 at the rooftops
01:15:24.220 at WHO,
01:15:24.900 you got to stop
01:15:27.060 using this vaccine,
01:15:28.480 you got to reassess this
01:15:29.820 and WHO is still
01:15:31.200 going around
01:15:31.700 claiming it saves lives
01:15:32.880 but it's a lie.
01:15:34.480 It's a provable lie.
01:15:37.140 That study,
01:15:38.440 by the way,
01:15:38.960 any of your listeners
01:15:39.980 can look it up
01:15:40.920 and I encourage you
01:15:41.660 to do so.
01:15:43.120 It's called
01:15:43.820 Morgensen,
01:15:44.800 M-O-R-G-E-N-S-E-N
01:15:47.840 et al,
01:15:48.980 in other words,
01:15:49.820 and the team,
01:15:50.940 2017
01:15:52.760 and the journal
01:15:54.020 is called
01:15:54.460 eBioPharma
01:15:55.600 and, you know,
01:15:57.560 so that,
01:15:58.440 the idea that
01:15:59.440 they're saving
01:16:00.060 six million lives
01:16:01.000 a year,
01:16:01.520 there's no data
01:16:02.200 that supports that.
01:16:04.080 Which one of those
01:16:04.900 organizations
01:16:05.480 do you give a,
01:16:06.900 do you give a lot
01:16:08.200 of credibility to?
01:16:09.160 Well,
01:16:09.380 here's the problem.
01:16:11.620 You know,
01:16:12.200 I'm not
01:16:12.740 against the agencies.
01:16:14.880 I, you know,
01:16:15.540 I'm,
01:16:16.640 my whole life
01:16:17.740 has been trying
01:16:18.300 to, you know,
01:16:19.260 to build agencies
01:16:20.280 and,
01:16:20.900 and,
01:16:21.360 and assure
01:16:23.320 integrity in them,
01:16:24.380 but all of those
01:16:26.260 agencies are
01:16:27.420 what we call
01:16:28.040 captive agencies.
01:16:28.980 They are run
01:16:29.980 by the industry.
01:16:31.400 WHO gets
01:16:32.620 half of its budget
01:16:33.900 from pharmaceutical
01:16:35.740 companies
01:16:36.420 and 10%
01:16:37.180 of its budget
01:16:37.760 from Bill Gates.
01:16:39.500 The European
01:16:40.800 Medical Agency
01:16:41.740 gets half of its budget
01:16:42.980 from pharmaceutical
01:16:43.740 companies.
01:16:44.660 The FDA
01:16:45.220 gets half of its budget
01:16:46.580 from pharmaceutical
01:16:47.340 companies.
01:16:48.200 The CDC
01:16:48.800 spends a 45%
01:16:52.660 of its budget
01:16:53.400 on vaccines.
01:16:56.620 And so,
01:16:57.560 you know,
01:16:58.000 if we shouldn't
01:16:59.440 have that situation,
01:17:00.720 those companies
01:17:01.300 should not be taking
01:17:02.220 any money
01:17:03.080 from the industries
01:17:04.740 they're supposed
01:17:05.240 to regulate.
01:17:06.520 And because of that,
01:17:08.020 they are owned
01:17:08.580 by those industries
01:17:09.440 and we're not getting
01:17:10.180 good science
01:17:10.880 and we're not getting
01:17:11.460 good policy
01:17:12.180 and we're not getting
01:17:12.840 good regulation.
01:17:14.640 Robert,
01:17:15.380 you know,
01:17:16.100 the topic of autism
01:17:17.240 obviously has a lot
01:17:18.060 to do with vaccine
01:17:18.740 and it's part
01:17:19.660 of this entire
01:17:20.160 conversation
01:17:20.680 that we're having.
01:17:21.880 Have scientists
01:17:23.320 and proper research
01:17:24.520 been able to prove
01:17:25.320 what causes autism?
01:17:28.320 Well,
01:17:29.440 listen,
01:17:30.960 the answer to that
01:17:34.580 is that
01:17:36.540 those studies
01:17:38.040 have not
01:17:38.860 systematically been done.
01:17:41.040 There are many,
01:17:41.860 many studies
01:17:42.540 studies that link
01:17:43.240 autism to vaccines.
01:17:45.940 We have listed
01:17:47.600 on our website
01:17:49.500 several hundred studies
01:17:52.060 saying,
01:17:53.580 suggesting in various ways
01:17:55.960 that not only
01:17:58.180 do vaccines
01:17:59.220 cause autism
01:17:59.960 but actually
01:18:00.900 looking at
01:18:01.900 the specific
01:18:02.460 mechanisms
01:18:03.260 by which
01:18:04.080 they cause autism.
01:18:05.100 So I don't think
01:18:06.080 there's any
01:18:06.840 scientific question
01:18:08.900 that vaccines
01:18:09.680 cause autism.
01:18:10.480 if you actually
01:18:11.180 read the science,
01:18:13.020 the problem
01:18:13.500 is CDC
01:18:14.520 has
01:18:15.840 ginned up
01:18:20.240 17 studies.
01:18:23.060 All of those studies
01:18:24.360 have flaws
01:18:26.080 and those studies
01:18:27.200 are all epidemiological
01:18:28.700 studies,
01:18:29.380 meaning their populations
01:18:30.340 and none of them
01:18:30.960 are animal studies,
01:18:32.080 none of them
01:18:32.400 are pharmacological studies,
01:18:33.900 none of them
01:18:34.240 are toxicity studies.
01:18:35.460 and those studies
01:18:37.940 are,
01:18:39.540 you know,
01:18:39.740 they looked at
01:18:40.340 big populations
01:18:41.200 and they said
01:18:41.900 we couldn't find
01:18:43.480 a link here
01:18:44.360 but
01:18:44.760 the problem is
01:18:46.480 they were all done
01:18:47.220 by pharmaceutical
01:18:48.020 industry scientists,
01:18:49.380 none of them did
01:18:50.400 and they all
01:18:51.880 either look at
01:18:53.080 one vaccine,
01:18:54.000 the MMR,
01:18:54.760 which is given
01:18:55.340 when the children
01:18:56.100 are quite old
01:18:56.920 and then two
01:18:59.340 find aerosol.
01:19:01.540 So that's the only
01:19:02.400 vaccine,
01:19:03.060 one vaccine
01:19:03.620 has ever been studied.
01:19:04.500 And it's not
01:19:06.160 the biggest suspect.
01:19:07.620 So the suspects
01:19:08.760 are the five vaccines
01:19:10.580 that are given
01:19:11.200 during the first
01:19:12.700 five months of life.
01:19:14.760 None of them
01:19:15.240 have ever been studied.
01:19:16.200 And the Institute
01:19:16.920 of Medicine,
01:19:17.880 which is the ultimate
01:19:18.960 arbiter of vaccine science,
01:19:20.900 you don't have to listen
01:19:21.780 to Bobby Kennedy.
01:19:23.740 The Institute of Medicine
01:19:24.920 looks over the shoulder
01:19:28.180 of the CDC
01:19:28.940 and HHS
01:19:30.080 and tells them
01:19:31.640 whether they actually
01:19:33.140 have done the studies
01:19:34.120 that are necessary.
01:19:36.340 The IOM looked
01:19:37.300 at all the vaccine
01:19:38.340 studies that have been
01:19:39.300 done in 91,
01:19:41.000 in 94,
01:19:42.220 in 2011,
01:19:43.380 and in 2014.
01:19:44.780 And what they said
01:19:45.660 in every one
01:19:46.540 of those findings
01:19:48.060 is they've said,
01:19:50.240 CDC has never done
01:19:51.520 the studies
01:19:52.060 that it needs to do.
01:19:53.060 And they've scolded,
01:19:54.260 they've chided,
01:19:55.120 they've begged,
01:19:55.860 they've pleaded,
01:19:56.740 and CDC has refused
01:19:58.100 to do those studies.
01:19:59.920 Oh, what I'm saying,
01:20:01.000 CDC does not have
01:20:02.580 those studies
01:20:03.300 that show the link.
01:20:04.960 Independent scientists
01:20:06.140 have done those studies.
01:20:07.560 If you want to see them,
01:20:08.960 come to our website,
01:20:10.240 Children's Health Defense,
01:20:11.380 and we have them
01:20:11.960 outlined there.
01:20:12.680 And you can read
01:20:13.380 the abstracts,
01:20:14.300 you can read
01:20:14.740 the whole study,
01:20:16.380 you can make up
01:20:16.980 your own mind.
01:20:17.780 But I've made up mine,
01:20:19.120 and it's very,
01:20:20.140 very clear.
01:20:21.580 What are...
01:20:22.140 There's a terrific book
01:20:23.440 by J.B. Hanley
01:20:25.520 called
01:20:25.820 How to End
01:20:26.440 the Autism Epidemic,
01:20:27.540 which is a really good
01:20:28.680 summary of the current science.
01:20:32.600 So what are pro-vaccine folks
01:20:35.280 saying causes autism?
01:20:36.480 What are anti-vaccine folks
01:20:38.420 saying causes autism?
01:20:39.700 Well, the pro-vaccine folks
01:20:41.580 are in a bad position.
01:20:44.580 Because what they have to say
01:20:46.940 is they can't really...
01:20:49.080 What they'll say is,
01:20:52.080 well, CDC has these studies
01:20:54.820 that show it doesn't
01:20:55.680 cause autism.
01:20:56.340 And that's the only studies
01:20:57.340 they look at.
01:20:57.940 They won't look at the
01:20:58.680 hundreds of studies
01:20:59.500 that show it does.
01:21:00.420 They just look at those
01:21:01.360 17 studies.
01:21:03.220 The Institute of Medicine
01:21:04.160 has said those studies
01:21:05.520 are no good.
01:21:07.880 So what they do is
01:21:09.760 they take the tact
01:21:11.060 of saying something
01:21:12.340 that's so absurd
01:21:13.580 that it's laughable.
01:21:15.840 They say there is
01:21:16.900 no autism epidemic.
01:21:19.400 That people are just
01:21:20.480 noticing autism more.
01:21:24.060 And, you know,
01:21:25.680 anybody...
01:21:26.440 I mean, I...
01:21:27.120 Listen, I grew up,
01:21:28.320 as I said,
01:21:28.900 on the spirit tip
01:21:29.700 of, you know,
01:21:31.280 intellectual disabilities.
01:21:32.640 I was around...
01:21:33.540 You know, I was working
01:21:34.580 in Special Olympics
01:21:35.220 when I was a kid.
01:21:37.360 We never saw kids
01:21:38.960 that were...
01:21:39.960 that had actually
01:21:40.660 full-blown autism
01:21:41.600 like what you see today.
01:21:42.780 But here's the real...
01:21:44.480 the real rebuttal
01:21:46.860 to that claim
01:21:48.220 that autism...
01:21:49.060 we're just doing
01:21:49.720 better diagnoses today.
01:21:52.140 If that were true,
01:21:55.000 then where are all
01:21:56.680 the 66-year-old men
01:21:58.280 with full-blown autism
01:22:00.380 in my entire life,
01:22:02.840 having worked
01:22:03.900 in Waseya,
01:22:04.640 I'm for the retarded,
01:22:05.800 having worked
01:22:07.060 in Special Olympics,
01:22:07.860 I have never seen
01:22:09.220 somebody my age
01:22:10.800 with full-blown autism.
01:22:12.320 A man walking
01:22:14.600 in the mall
01:22:15.320 wearing diapers,
01:22:17.900 wearing a helmet,
01:22:19.180 headbanging,
01:22:20.340 non-verbal,
01:22:21.540 non-toilet train,
01:22:23.360 stimming,
01:22:24.860 toe walking.
01:22:26.380 You don't see it.
01:22:27.540 I've never seen it
01:22:28.820 in my life.
01:22:30.440 And yet,
01:22:31.340 you know,
01:22:31.840 it's one in 34 kids
01:22:33.460 in my children's generation,
01:22:36.740 in the vaccine generation.
01:22:38.100 And so the question is,
01:22:40.160 you cannot credibly say
01:22:41.880 it's always been with us
01:22:43.400 because if it's always
01:22:44.400 been with us,
01:22:45.100 it would still be here
01:22:46.380 in my generation.
01:22:48.460 And they've been saying
01:22:49.860 that since 2004.
01:22:54.040 And yet,
01:22:54.640 even since 2004,
01:22:57.160 it's gone up
01:22:58.160 600 or 700 percent.
01:23:00.100 So it's still climbing.
01:23:01.880 And so it's completely
01:23:03.220 incredible.
01:23:04.300 And what they really
01:23:05.160 try to do is avoid
01:23:06.200 having the conversation.
01:23:08.420 Nobody's going to have
01:23:09.280 this debate with me.
01:23:10.880 Nobody's going to sit down
01:23:12.200 and argue to my face.
01:23:13.720 Also, there's a lot of science.
01:23:16.260 UC Davis did a study.
01:23:17.860 There's dozens of studies
01:23:19.420 that say,
01:23:20.000 no,
01:23:20.740 the autism epidemic
01:23:21.620 is real.
01:23:23.160 It's happening.
01:23:24.100 It's affecting kids.
01:23:25.420 It's not affecting adults.
01:23:27.220 And, you know,
01:23:28.160 we don't know
01:23:28.700 where it's coming from.
01:23:30.400 If a debate
01:23:31.380 could be set up,
01:23:32.380 who'd be the main
01:23:33.160 prominent voice
01:23:33.980 for you to debate against?
01:23:35.480 Well, the best people
01:23:36.360 for me to debate
01:23:37.420 would be Fauci.
01:23:39.240 But, you know,
01:23:41.300 if Fauci can say
01:23:42.160 I'm a government official,
01:23:43.140 I'm not going to
01:23:43.820 lower myself
01:23:44.600 into the debate to you.
01:23:46.160 There's a lot of academics,
01:23:48.280 people like Ian Lipkin
01:23:50.320 at Columbia,
01:23:51.820 Peter Hotez
01:23:53.120 at Baylor University
01:23:54.880 in Texas,
01:23:55.800 and these are people
01:23:56.720 who have thrust themselves
01:23:58.120 to the forefront
01:23:59.840 of defending vaccines.
01:24:01.720 Paul Offit,
01:24:03.100 Children's Hospital
01:24:04.280 of Philadelphia.
01:24:05.640 These are vaccine developers.
01:24:07.340 There are people
01:24:08.200 who are at the forefront.
01:24:09.380 There are people
01:24:09.900 who have deliberately
01:24:11.060 they're the ones
01:24:12.220 who go on TV,
01:24:13.400 go on CNN,
01:24:14.280 go on Fox,
01:24:15.060 go on, you know,
01:24:16.180 write articles
01:24:17.160 from the New York Times,
01:24:19.160 have thrust themselves
01:24:20.060 to the forefront of this.
01:24:21.700 None of them
01:24:22.300 will debate me.
01:24:23.620 They're all terrified.
01:24:25.340 They will not.
01:24:25.980 And it's not because
01:24:26.740 I'm a great debater.
01:24:28.640 It's because they know
01:24:29.800 that the science
01:24:30.480 speaks for itself
01:24:31.240 and I do know the science
01:24:32.700 and I know it
01:24:33.400 backward and forward.
01:24:34.400 I know it in many cases
01:24:35.660 better than they do
01:24:36.520 because I actually
01:24:37.500 am looking at it critically.
01:24:39.960 And I've seen the studies
01:24:41.080 they cite
01:24:41.740 and I know
01:24:42.500 what the flaws are in them
01:24:43.680 and they have not,
01:24:45.460 you know,
01:24:45.680 I've sent them
01:24:46.540 to the studies I cite
01:24:47.580 but I know
01:24:48.040 they don't read them
01:24:48.700 because they send me
01:24:49.480 back nonsense
01:24:50.440 or nothing at all.
01:24:52.540 And none of them
01:24:53.380 will debate me.
01:24:54.120 And in fact,
01:24:55.500 if anybody else
01:24:56.480 tries to debate me,
01:24:57.640 like for example,
01:24:59.480 several months ago,
01:25:00.680 the Connecticut
01:25:01.880 State Legislature
01:25:02.940 was considering
01:25:04.700 a bill
01:25:05.520 to repeal
01:25:06.480 vaccine exemptions
01:25:07.580 and they asked
01:25:09.720 me to come
01:25:10.380 to Connecticut
01:25:11.220 and debate,
01:25:12.620 do a debate.
01:25:13.580 And then they
01:25:14.100 tried to stack
01:25:14.940 the debate against me
01:25:15.920 so they put
01:25:16.560 five Yale
01:25:17.780 virologists
01:25:19.680 and immunologists
01:25:20.600 to come to that debate
01:25:21.880 and I was going
01:25:22.740 to have eight minutes
01:25:23.520 and each one of them
01:25:24.440 were going to have
01:25:24.980 eight minutes.
01:25:26.560 It was stacked against me
01:25:27.660 but I was okay
01:25:29.040 with those odds
01:25:29.860 because I know
01:25:30.360 I'm going to win
01:25:30.800 that debate anyway.
01:25:32.620 I flew across
01:25:33.620 the country
01:25:34.140 and got there
01:25:35.800 and nobody showed up.
01:25:37.240 And that's happened
01:25:37.960 to me dozens of times
01:25:39.500 where people agree
01:25:40.540 to debate me
01:25:41.200 but then they get
01:25:41.920 the memo.
01:25:42.700 People call them,
01:25:43.900 people contact them
01:25:44.900 and say,
01:25:45.400 you cannot debate him.
01:25:47.460 Nobody will debate me.
01:25:49.220 Well, if we can
01:25:49.880 coordinate it,
01:25:50.400 you're open to it.
01:25:51.440 Yes, if we...
01:25:51.780 Oh, yeah,
01:25:52.280 in a minute,
01:25:53.020 I'll debate it
01:25:53.600 anybody, anytime.
01:25:55.080 Okay, good.
01:25:55.660 On our end.
01:25:57.380 We'll see what we can do
01:25:58.180 if we can get creative there.
01:25:59.360 By the way,
01:25:59.760 just for education purposes,
01:26:01.220 what's the difference
01:26:01.940 between the 1986 Act
01:26:04.440 when they came out
01:26:05.040 with the National Childhood
01:26:06.080 Vaccine Injury Act
01:26:07.200 versus the 2011 Brusevitz
01:26:09.400 versus Wyatt?
01:26:12.520 The Brusevitz case
01:26:14.300 was interpreting the Act.
01:26:16.600 So what happened
01:26:18.340 is the Act said
01:26:19.700 you have to go...
01:26:21.700 The Act actually,
01:26:23.640 the Brusevitz case
01:26:24.700 really killed us
01:26:25.700 and killed people
01:26:26.540 for a vaccine engine
01:26:27.420 were 5,400 people
01:26:30.980 who said,
01:26:31.860 my kid got autism
01:26:32.760 from a vaccine
01:26:33.500 and they all descended
01:26:34.580 on the vaccine court
01:26:35.700 at once.
01:26:36.960 You know,
01:26:37.280 the Act,
01:26:38.340 the 1986 Act
01:26:39.980 set up
01:26:40.620 a vaccine court
01:26:42.660 where you're not
01:26:44.540 suing the company
01:26:45.380 that injured you.
01:26:46.400 You're suing...
01:26:47.180 You're petitioning
01:26:48.140 the United States
01:26:48.860 government
01:26:49.320 for redress
01:26:52.120 because the Vaccine Act
01:26:54.340 recognized vaccines
01:26:56.280 cannot be safely made.
01:26:57.560 They're unavoidably unsafe.
01:26:59.280 That's the quote.
01:27:01.100 And that we have to...
01:27:03.060 Therefore,
01:27:03.960 people who get injured
01:27:05.360 by vaccines,
01:27:06.480 by mandatory vaccines,
01:27:07.780 are making a sacrifice
01:27:10.900 for the nation.
01:27:11.760 and they should be
01:27:13.500 fairly compensated.
01:27:15.480 And so they set up
01:27:16.400 a vaccine court
01:27:17.320 that was supposed
01:27:18.300 to instantly pay them.
01:27:21.920 And the vaccine court
01:27:23.300 got overwhelmed.
01:27:24.720 It immediately got
01:27:25.780 5,400 people
01:27:27.020 coming in
01:27:27.540 and saying,
01:27:28.040 my child got autism
01:27:29.080 from the vaccine.
01:27:30.880 It would have bankrupted
01:27:31.860 the whole program
01:27:32.660 overnight.
01:27:33.380 So they had to get rid
01:27:34.320 of those cases.
01:27:35.380 And the government
01:27:36.000 fought them
01:27:36.600 and fought them
01:27:37.080 and fought them
01:27:37.580 for years.
01:27:37.980 It finally ended up
01:27:39.100 in the Supreme Court.
01:27:41.120 And the Supreme Court,
01:27:42.560 the way the act
01:27:43.580 was set up
01:27:44.240 is that you could
01:27:45.140 go to the vaccine court
01:27:46.140 and get your compensation.
01:27:47.260 But if you didn't
01:27:48.120 like the settlement,
01:27:50.340 you could withdraw
01:27:51.120 and you could go
01:27:51.660 to a regular court.
01:27:53.380 And so,
01:27:54.560 you know,
01:27:54.800 we weren't completely
01:27:55.600 foreclosed.
01:27:56.620 People who were injured
01:27:57.480 could still get redressed.
01:27:59.800 The Supreme Court
01:28:00.660 gave us this wacky decision
01:28:02.760 that said that
01:28:04.760 if you do leave
01:28:06.000 the vaccine court
01:28:06.900 and go to a regular court,
01:28:07.980 they cannot give you,
01:28:09.680 they cannot give you
01:28:11.160 an award for product liability.
01:28:14.000 In other words,
01:28:15.040 you can't sue them
01:28:15.940 like you can sue anybody else.
01:28:17.920 You know,
01:28:18.260 your product was dangerous.
01:28:20.580 I took it.
01:28:21.300 I got injured.
01:28:22.160 Give me the money.
01:28:23.320 You know,
01:28:23.600 give me redress.
01:28:24.500 Make me whole.
01:28:26.220 You can't do that.
01:28:27.620 So you can sue them
01:28:28.620 for fraud,
01:28:30.340 but you cannot sue them
01:28:32.060 for product liability.
01:28:33.060 So it basically
01:28:33.700 threw us out of court.
01:28:35.020 We have no jury trial,
01:28:36.940 you know,
01:28:37.160 and no trial.
01:28:38.600 Most people are injured.
01:28:40.400 The vaccine court
01:28:41.080 won't even hear their cases.
01:28:43.400 That's an interesting story.
01:28:44.660 It's the story
01:28:45.200 of the little girl,
01:28:47.300 Hannah, right?
01:28:47.800 I think it's a five-year-old.
01:28:50.440 Hannah was one of the stories
01:28:51.840 that was brought up.
01:28:53.420 Hannah Pauling
01:28:54.320 was an eight-year-old
01:28:55.600 who got autism
01:28:57.420 from a vaccine,
01:28:58.280 and the problem was
01:29:00.580 that her father
01:29:05.400 was a neurologist,
01:29:07.460 a famous neurologist
01:29:08.560 from Johns Hopkins,
01:29:10.200 and her mother
01:29:11.780 was a nurse
01:29:13.240 and a lawyer,
01:29:14.600 and this girl
01:29:15.700 was a very gifted girl.
01:29:18.700 She exceeded
01:29:19.340 all her milestones
01:29:20.240 when she was right,
01:29:21.180 and they had lots
01:29:22.180 of video
01:29:22.760 right up to the day
01:29:25.060 that she took
01:29:25.620 those vaccines.
01:29:27.400 She got it
01:29:27.820 at her 36-month
01:29:29.360 wellness visit.
01:29:31.340 We got a battery
01:29:32.000 of vaccines,
01:29:33.220 and she launched
01:29:34.600 her brain.
01:29:36.180 She went,
01:29:36.700 you know,
01:29:36.880 the lights went off
01:29:37.680 on her.
01:29:38.180 They had before
01:29:38.920 and after,
01:29:39.680 and they had
01:29:40.300 professional doctors
01:29:41.700 who had observed
01:29:42.540 everything that happened,
01:29:43.600 and they had
01:29:47.080 to get rid of it,
01:29:47.660 and that was
01:29:48.180 one of the bellwether cases.
01:29:50.000 So if she,
01:29:51.520 the way that they
01:29:52.280 decided this case
01:29:53.460 and these cases,
01:29:55.080 50 or 100 cases
01:29:56.160 in the vaccine court,
01:29:56.980 is they said,
01:29:58.720 we're not going to try them all.
01:29:59.880 We'll try six of them,
01:30:01.940 and if any of those six
01:30:03.700 wins,
01:30:05.240 then we'll try them all.
01:30:07.100 And so they really
01:30:08.100 were under pressure
01:30:08.820 to get rid of
01:30:09.960 all six of those.
01:30:11.980 And unfortunately for them,
01:30:13.420 Hannah Pauling's case
01:30:14.460 was won,
01:30:15.360 and there was no way
01:30:16.200 for them to win it.
01:30:17.240 So what they did was
01:30:18.480 they secretly
01:30:19.140 went into a back room,
01:30:21.540 paid $20 million
01:30:22.620 to her family,
01:30:24.640 and said,
01:30:25.360 keep your mouth shut.
01:30:26.380 We're going to seal this case.
01:30:27.780 We're going to drop it
01:30:28.520 from the bellwether cases
01:30:29.620 and substitute another one.
01:30:32.040 And that's how
01:30:32.740 they defrauded
01:30:33.420 all those people
01:30:34.280 out of their,
01:30:35.100 you know,
01:30:35.620 compensation and vaccine court.
01:30:37.460 Is that proven?
01:30:38.660 The parents,
01:30:39.320 oh yeah,
01:30:39.760 the parents are,
01:30:41.080 you know,
01:30:41.320 were very,
01:30:42.120 very troubled,
01:30:42.760 but they kind of
01:30:43.560 had to do
01:30:43.980 what was right
01:30:44.540 for their daughter
01:30:45.160 and their daughter
01:30:46.160 really needed
01:30:46.960 lifetime care.
01:30:48.920 And the parents
01:30:49.800 immediately took the deal
01:30:51.100 but then immediately
01:30:52.080 petitioned to the court
01:30:53.820 for a full disclosure.
01:30:58.280 They filed a motion
01:30:59.400 for full transparency
01:31:01.420 of that
01:31:02.280 because they thought
01:31:03.220 they'd get a chance
01:31:04.120 to,
01:31:05.500 even if they signed
01:31:06.340 the deal
01:31:06.680 and it got unsealed
01:31:07.520 and they made the agreement
01:31:08.460 they wouldn't talk about it,
01:31:09.960 that the court
01:31:10.840 wouldn't allow that.
01:31:13.100 In the end,
01:31:13.880 the court refused
01:31:14.800 to hear their petition
01:31:16.260 and they were stuck
01:31:17.600 keeping their mouths
01:31:18.380 shut for years.
01:31:19.320 And then it came out
01:31:20.440 and, you know,
01:31:21.260 I'm friends
01:31:23.800 and allies
01:31:24.620 with her parents
01:31:25.840 and her parents
01:31:26.480 have spent their lives,
01:31:27.840 you know,
01:31:28.260 fighting for these
01:31:28.960 other children.
01:31:29.620 Very interesting.
01:31:32.820 I didn't know
01:31:33.760 about the $20 million
01:31:34.560 and respect to the family
01:31:37.100 to wanting to make it public
01:31:38.160 so everybody knew.
01:31:39.260 By the way,
01:31:39.740 Bill Gates,
01:31:40.400 you know,
01:31:40.780 you had a post
01:31:42.020 that you put on Instagram.
01:31:43.960 It got a lot of comments.
01:31:45.620 There were a lot of things
01:31:46.580 you said about him.
01:31:47.320 When I bring up Bill Gates
01:31:48.700 in a lot of conversations,
01:31:50.600 most people will say,
01:31:53.580 good man,
01:31:54.380 doing good things.
01:31:55.460 Most of them will bring up
01:31:56.500 the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation
01:31:57.880 and, you know,
01:31:59.160 you hear Melinda Gates
01:32:00.140 talking about the fact
01:32:01.160 that we're getting closer
01:32:02.240 to wiping several deadly diseases
01:32:04.940 off the face of the planet,
01:32:06.060 but we couldn't,
01:32:07.520 we could easily blow it.
01:32:08.680 I think in an article
01:32:09.420 she talked about
01:32:10.120 how when they started
01:32:10.880 and in 2000
01:32:11.620 they put nearly $50 billion
01:32:12.940 of money into it
01:32:14.060 and polio has gone
01:32:15.740 from 350,000 cases
01:32:17.400 in ADA
01:32:17.860 to 2017
01:32:18.740 having only 22
01:32:19.800 and 2018
01:32:21.040 being only 29.
01:32:22.860 What is your opinion
01:32:24.020 of the global vaccine action plan
01:32:25.760 that Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
01:32:27.660 is financially backing
01:32:29.320 and again,
01:32:30.540 I don't want to read
01:32:31.180 the entire Instagram post,
01:32:32.320 but what is your thoughts
01:32:33.340 and opinions
01:32:33.840 on Bill and Melinda Gates?
01:32:35.140 Well, I mean,
01:32:35.920 you know,
01:32:36.900 the devil is in the details
01:32:39.100 and as it turns out
01:32:42.060 that polio vaccine,
01:32:43.360 which they said
01:32:44.500 was going to eradicate polio
01:32:45.780 has actually caused
01:32:47.080 polio epidemics
01:32:47.960 around the world
01:32:48.680 in places where
01:32:49.780 they haven't seen polio
01:32:50.940 in decades
01:32:51.580 like the Philippines,
01:32:52.700 like the Congo,
01:32:53.280 like Afghanistan
01:32:54.400 and in India
01:32:56.320 around 490,000 kids
01:33:00.880 have been paralyzed.
01:33:02.120 Oh, you know,
01:33:02.680 for them to say
01:33:03.440 that, you know,
01:33:04.680 we're almost there
01:33:05.720 and it's,
01:33:07.240 I'm sure what Bill
01:33:08.840 and Melinda Gates
01:33:09.760 will try to do
01:33:10.500 at one point
01:33:11.180 is to blame it
01:33:12.480 on anti-vaxxers,
01:33:13.620 but even WHO admits
01:33:16.180 that 70% of the polio
01:33:18.640 today on Earth
01:33:19.940 is coming from
01:33:20.820 Gates' vaccine.
01:33:23.220 It was a bad idea.
01:33:25.260 The vaccine
01:33:25.780 is badly flawed
01:33:27.400 and the way
01:33:29.460 that they used it
01:33:30.520 was hair brained.
01:33:33.100 You know,
01:33:33.240 they're giving kids
01:33:34.260 50 polio inoculations
01:33:36.860 or immunizations
01:33:39.640 before age five
01:33:41.420 and those kids
01:33:43.220 are,
01:33:44.880 you know,
01:33:45.100 the polio
01:33:45.580 is coming out
01:33:46.220 in their fecal material
01:33:47.340 so it spreads
01:33:48.540 the disease
01:33:49.320 and that's what
01:33:51.400 they did in the Congo
01:33:52.300 but you can,
01:33:53.240 you know,
01:33:53.500 when you look,
01:33:54.440 when people look
01:33:54.980 at polio
01:33:55.480 and public health
01:33:56.500 people look at polio
01:33:58.460 they can tell
01:33:59.080 whether that polio
01:33:59.920 is wild polio
01:34:00.920 or it's vaccine polio
01:34:02.040 and 70%
01:34:04.040 of the cases
01:34:04.680 now on Earth
01:34:05.760 at least
01:34:06.880 are vaccine polio
01:34:08.540 and that means
01:34:09.380 Gates' vaccine
01:34:10.420 you know,
01:34:13.280 you're asking me
01:34:14.340 kind of a broader
01:34:15.060 question about
01:34:15.960 what does Gates
01:34:17.480 have to do.
01:34:19.080 I think that Gates
01:34:20.700 is well intended
01:34:21.940 the way that,
01:34:22.800 you know,
01:34:23.220 missionaries
01:34:23.900 who brought
01:34:24.480 smallpox
01:34:25.340 to the Indians
01:34:26.540 were well intended.
01:34:28.640 I think he also,
01:34:30.620 he believes
01:34:31.640 that
01:34:32.200 he is somehow
01:34:34.780 ordained
01:34:35.720 by,
01:34:36.460 you know,
01:34:37.100 divinely
01:34:37.680 to bring salvation
01:34:40.660 to the world
01:34:41.280 through technology
01:34:42.240 and I think
01:34:43.200 that notion
01:34:44.400 is probably fortified
01:34:45.760 by his experience
01:34:47.740 with Microsoft
01:34:48.420 where he really
01:34:49.260 did change
01:34:50.160 humanity
01:34:51.000 and the planet
01:34:51.880 in the way
01:34:52.320 that we,
01:34:52.860 you know,
01:34:53.160 communicate with each other
01:34:54.340 and he really sees
01:34:57.360 a vaccine
01:34:58.380 or technology
01:34:59.900 in general
01:35:00.500 as salvation
01:35:01.540 and I think
01:35:02.520 that that
01:35:03.080 has given him
01:35:03.920 a blindness
01:35:04.520 and statisticians
01:35:07.800 call that,
01:35:08.560 have a name
01:35:09.000 for that blindness
01:35:09.800 and it's called
01:35:10.900 confirmation bias
01:35:12.260 where he will,
01:35:14.920 he will see
01:35:16.540 and incorporate
01:35:17.420 and integrate
01:35:18.100 data
01:35:18.680 that supports
01:35:20.140 his worldview
01:35:20.880 and he refused
01:35:21.960 to see data
01:35:22.880 that don't,
01:35:23.500 like the DTP study
01:35:25.100 I was telling you
01:35:25.840 about by Morgensen.
01:35:27.900 How can he continue
01:35:29.080 to insist
01:35:29.760 that African children
01:35:30.620 get that shot
01:35:31.460 when he knows
01:35:32.180 it's probably killing
01:35:32.860 millions of kids
01:35:33.860 and yet there's
01:35:35.720 a hard-headedness
01:35:36.820 that is,
01:35:37.600 I don't think
01:35:38.320 it's from,
01:35:39.020 you know,
01:35:39.520 saying,
01:35:41.000 I'm not going
01:35:42.180 admit it's mistaken
01:35:43.000 I'm going to kill
01:35:43.560 millions of African children
01:35:44.820 but I think it's that
01:35:46.020 I'm not going to look
01:35:47.520 at the possibility
01:35:48.940 that this could have
01:35:50.000 been an error
01:35:50.500 and I'm going to
01:35:52.240 dig my heels in it
01:35:53.140 and he died,
01:35:54.940 you know,
01:35:55.200 the same thing
01:35:55.940 happened in India.
01:35:57.460 He was thrown
01:35:58.220 out of India
01:35:58.920 because of an experiment
01:36:01.180 that he did
01:36:01.800 on 26,000
01:36:04.340 illiterate tribal girls
01:36:05.820 in the northern territories
01:36:07.340 where he tested
01:36:08.220 a very, very dangerous
01:36:09.440 HPV vaccine
01:36:10.540 on them
01:36:11.280 and I think
01:36:11.960 2,600
01:36:12.720 had either lost
01:36:15.140 their capacity
01:36:16.520 to have children
01:36:17.400 or have horrendous
01:36:18.880 autoimmune diseases
01:36:19.900 and when the Indian
01:36:22.040 government went in
01:36:23.000 they were horrified
01:36:23.900 to investigate
01:36:24.740 they found out
01:36:25.660 that Gates' operatives
01:36:26.980 had, you know,
01:36:28.140 had bullied
01:36:28.820 these families
01:36:30.360 into signing
01:36:31.500 you know,
01:36:35.260 confirmation agreements
01:36:36.720 and they were illiterate
01:36:38.700 that they didn't understand
01:36:39.920 consent agreements
01:36:41.660 that they didn't understand
01:36:43.180 etc.
01:36:43.760 and they treated
01:36:44.880 unethically
01:36:45.420 they weren't providing
01:36:46.220 medical care
01:36:47.900 to the kids
01:36:48.360 they injured
01:36:48.900 or anything like that
01:36:49.880 so
01:36:50.200 he had a similar
01:36:52.140 scandal
01:36:52.680 with a couple
01:36:53.580 of malaria vaccines
01:36:54.620 that they experimented
01:36:56.240 they did these
01:36:56.740 really horrendous
01:36:57.540 experiments
01:36:57.960 in Africa
01:36:58.680 I think he believes
01:37:00.900 it's okay
01:37:01.480 because he believes
01:37:02.680 so strongly
01:37:03.420 the vaccine
01:37:04.000 is going to save
01:37:04.660 people
01:37:05.100 that, you know,
01:37:05.860 the people
01:37:06.260 that he experiments
01:37:07.100 on are collateral
01:37:08.160 damage
01:37:08.860 and that, you know,
01:37:09.860 but it's kind of a
01:37:10.900 it's a worrying
01:37:13.020 posture
01:37:14.160 that, you know,
01:37:15.260 somebody with that
01:37:15.960 much power
01:37:16.760 also believes
01:37:18.340 that he is able
01:37:19.120 to play
01:37:20.860 with people's lives
01:37:21.880 and he's willing
01:37:23.220 to ignore data
01:37:24.400 so
01:37:25.660 in
01:37:27.700 his other
01:37:29.200 fixations
01:37:31.100 are GMO crops
01:37:32.620 and
01:37:33.100 this is another
01:37:34.080 problem with Gates
01:37:34.820 is he tends
01:37:35.800 in the nation
01:37:36.680 did an expose
01:37:37.620 on this
01:37:38.400 a couple of weeks ago
01:37:39.340 that
01:37:39.660 his personal investments
01:37:41.720 and his
01:37:43.840 Bill and Melinda Gates
01:37:45.460 Foundation investments
01:37:46.440 tend to be
01:37:47.320 in companies
01:37:48.100 that
01:37:48.960 benefit
01:37:50.360 from his
01:37:51.200 philanthropical
01:37:52.220 activities
01:37:52.680 so he's very
01:37:53.540 very
01:37:53.800 heavily
01:37:56.020 invested
01:37:56.660 in vaccine
01:37:57.260 companies
01:37:57.900 that are making
01:37:58.760 a killing
01:37:59.280 for the policies
01:38:00.140 that he is
01:38:00.880 pushing
01:38:02.140 or very
01:38:03.800 he's very invested
01:38:04.840 in Monsanto
01:38:05.760 he's pushing
01:38:07.340 GMO crops
01:38:08.260 and chemical
01:38:08.800 fertilizers
01:38:09.480 all over Africa
01:38:10.380 many places
01:38:11.140 where they're
01:38:11.500 clearly
01:38:11.880 inappropriate
01:38:12.600 and
01:38:14.300 he's very much
01:38:16.220 invested
01:38:16.700 in 5G
01:38:17.520 which is
01:38:19.060 kind of sinister
01:38:19.940 and he's
01:38:21.240 you know
01:38:21.500 putting a lot
01:38:22.040 of satellites
01:38:22.640 hundreds of
01:38:23.200 satellites
01:38:23.640 into orbit
01:38:24.320 he's putting
01:38:25.960 tens
01:38:26.420 of thousands
01:38:27.880 of ground
01:38:28.760 antenna
01:38:29.280 that are
01:38:30.280 not there
01:38:31.680 that
01:38:33.000 you know
01:38:34.000 what
01:38:34.240 one of his
01:38:34.960 companies
01:38:35.300 promising
01:38:35.960 is that
01:38:36.560 they will be
01:38:37.160 able to do
01:38:37.860 surveillance
01:38:38.560 with one second
01:38:39.800 delay
01:38:40.260 on every corner
01:38:41.240 of the earth
01:38:41.760 literally
01:38:42.280 every corner
01:38:43.180 of the earth
01:38:43.740 and he
01:38:45.400 also
01:38:45.940 so
01:38:46.520 and 5G
01:38:48.180 is not
01:38:48.940 about
01:38:49.400 helping you
01:38:50.420 download
01:38:51.220 your video
01:38:52.260 game quickly
01:38:53.060 you know
01:38:53.620 that's what
01:38:54.100 they're telling
01:38:54.620 you on these
01:38:55.180 glossy ads
01:38:55.960 on TV
01:38:56.460 but that
01:38:56.980 has nothing
01:38:57.420 to do
01:38:57.700 you care
01:38:58.600 if it takes
01:39:00.300 you 20 seconds
01:39:01.040 or 10 seconds
01:39:01.920 to download
01:39:03.100 a video game
01:39:03.860 it's not
01:39:04.260 going to really
01:39:04.680 change your
01:39:05.180 life
01:39:05.520 5G has
01:39:06.920 nothing to do
01:39:07.460 with that
01:39:07.760 5G is about
01:39:09.000 surveillance
01:39:10.340 and it's about
01:39:11.400 data harvesting
01:39:12.640 the biggest
01:39:13.520 repository of wealth
01:39:15.220 in the world
01:39:15.720 right now
01:39:16.300 it's not gold
01:39:17.040 it's not oil
01:39:17.840 it's data
01:39:18.620 and we now
01:39:20.420 have a capacity
01:39:21.360 by connecting
01:39:23.300 all these devices
01:39:24.300 it's called
01:39:24.780 the connectedness
01:39:25.600 of things
01:39:26.240 you connect
01:39:27.880 your Apple watch
01:39:29.540 to the
01:39:31.880 to the internet
01:39:32.780 you connect
01:39:33.660 your microwave
01:39:34.340 oven
01:39:34.680 you know
01:39:35.100 it's a smart
01:39:35.740 microwave
01:39:36.400 you connect
01:39:37.980 your Alexis
01:39:38.740 which is
01:39:39.500 listening to your
01:39:40.500 conversations
01:39:41.080 all day
01:39:41.780 your Siri
01:39:42.620 which is listening
01:39:43.400 to your cell phone
01:39:44.260 which is listening
01:39:44.780 to your conversations
01:39:45.640 you can
01:39:46.600 you know
01:39:47.060 what your buying
01:39:47.760 habits are
01:39:48.400 you know
01:39:48.760 your heart rate
01:39:49.800 you know
01:39:51.180 everything about you
01:39:52.420 and all that
01:39:53.500 information is data
01:39:55.440 that if it is
01:39:56.360 characterized
01:39:56.860 in an archive
01:39:57.580 is useful
01:39:58.880 and saleable
01:39:59.820 because it's telling
01:40:01.040 these companies
01:40:02.580 the behaviors
01:40:03.460 that will trigger
01:40:04.340 buying
01:40:05.080 reactions by you
01:40:08.280 you know
01:40:09.860 specifically
01:40:10.340 how to target you
01:40:11.600 where to target you
01:40:12.780 what time of the day
01:40:13.840 what kind of music
01:40:14.740 that you like
01:40:15.700 what kind of
01:40:16.380 what is going to
01:40:17.220 appeal to you
01:40:17.800 and get your attention
01:40:18.620 and get you
01:40:19.040 to buy stuff
01:40:19.800 and those
01:40:21.480 algorithms
01:40:22.180 are so powerful
01:40:23.120 that they're almost
01:40:23.860 irresistible
01:40:24.600 and that's what
01:40:25.640 he's harvesting
01:40:26.320 so he
01:40:27.000 you know
01:40:27.540 he's going to be
01:40:28.780 able to look at
01:40:29.900 through facial
01:40:31.420 recognition
01:40:32.020 have complete
01:40:32.880 control of our
01:40:33.660 society
01:40:34.200 you know
01:40:34.720 the other day
01:40:35.560 there were
01:40:37.040 surfers
01:40:38.080 who were
01:40:40.100 um
01:40:40.660 the police
01:40:42.120 were down
01:40:42.480 at Point Dome
01:40:43.080 which is near
01:40:43.640 where I live
01:40:44.300 and they were
01:40:44.880 giving surfers
01:40:46.180 thousand dollar
01:40:47.220 tickets
01:40:47.760 right
01:40:48.640 and so that's
01:40:49.800 pretty offensive
01:40:50.760 but you can say
01:40:51.340 well that was just
01:40:52.120 overreaction
01:40:53.060 just an appalling
01:40:54.000 judgment
01:40:54.480 by these
01:40:55.120 police
01:40:55.860 ticketing people
01:40:57.520 from going in the ocean
01:40:58.480 the sunshine
01:40:59.140 where you're supposed
01:40:59.840 to be
01:41:00.400 you know
01:41:00.780 to boost your
01:41:02.080 immune system
01:41:02.660 and um
01:41:04.760 but
01:41:05.420 imagine if you
01:41:06.760 don't need the police
01:41:07.680 imagine if we live
01:41:09.640 in a world
01:41:10.220 where
01:41:11.580 your movements
01:41:12.780 are being tracked
01:41:13.540 by satellites
01:41:14.420 and by facial
01:41:15.700 recognition
01:41:16.240 and by GPS
01:41:17.480 and by
01:41:18.340 on your car
01:41:19.560 on your cell phone
01:41:20.600 so that every
01:41:21.500 moment of the day
01:41:22.300 the authorities
01:41:24.500 know where you are
01:41:25.460 and corporations
01:41:26.280 know where you are
01:41:27.140 so when you go
01:41:27.840 to the beach
01:41:28.460 they don't have
01:41:30.120 to arrest you
01:41:31.100 they just send you
01:41:31.920 a thousand dollar
01:41:32.600 bill
01:41:32.780 but not
01:41:33.220 they don't even
01:41:33.740 send it to you
01:41:34.340 they just take it
01:41:35.560 directly out of
01:41:36.500 your
01:41:36.840 cryptocurrency
01:41:38.280 you know
01:41:39.240 paycheck account
01:41:40.100 and we're all
01:41:40.920 being you know
01:41:41.680 by this
01:41:42.080 particularly this
01:41:42.740 pandemic
01:41:43.220 is training us
01:41:45.580 with new kinds
01:41:46.280 of behavior
01:41:46.800 to do what we're
01:41:48.020 told
01:41:48.380 to accept this
01:41:49.460 kind of surveillance
01:41:50.280 to accept these
01:41:51.360 constraints
01:41:51.900 on our
01:41:52.680 on our
01:41:54.060 civil rights
01:41:55.080 to allow
01:41:56.300 the government
01:41:57.020 to come in
01:41:57.840 and tell us
01:41:58.460 you stay at home
01:41:59.340 you don't go to
01:41:59.920 the beach
01:42:00.340 you don't send
01:42:01.300 your kids to
01:42:01.920 school
01:42:02.600 you don't leave
01:42:03.800 your house
01:42:04.340 and actually
01:42:05.120 accept those
01:42:06.080 kind of orders
01:42:06.740 one of the
01:42:08.120 companies
01:42:08.580 he's got
01:42:09.380 many companies
01:42:10.320 that are
01:42:11.060 installing chips
01:42:13.100 that will carry
01:42:15.120 around your
01:42:15.540 medical records
01:42:16.240 but they'll also
01:42:16.840 be capable of
01:42:17.620 carrying around
01:42:18.440 your other data
01:42:19.280 so that if a cop
01:42:20.520 pulls you over
01:42:21.640 for speeding
01:42:22.300 he can scan you
01:42:23.280 and look
01:42:24.980 and look at your
01:42:25.220 criminal record
01:42:25.980 look at your
01:42:27.080 buying history
01:42:27.940 see if you've
01:42:29.200 been to a liquor
01:42:29.720 store recently
01:42:30.660 and you know
01:42:32.520 do we really
01:42:33.540 and then
01:42:34.120 he's got another
01:42:35.100 Microsoft
01:42:35.700 just patented
01:42:37.800 a chip system
01:42:38.680 that is a
01:42:40.500 biometric
01:42:41.220 subdermal
01:42:42.420 sensor system
01:42:43.900 so it will
01:42:44.960 actually be able
01:42:45.900 to sense
01:42:46.300 brain waves
01:42:47.220 and body
01:42:49.460 signals
01:42:51.900 like heart rate
01:42:52.880 etc
01:42:53.240 and it will
01:42:55.500 assign you
01:42:57.320 tasks
01:42:58.060 in other words
01:43:00.280 you will get a
01:43:01.500 message on your
01:43:02.460 phone
01:43:02.860 to do
01:43:04.580 certain tasks
01:43:05.700 and your
01:43:06.760 tasks
01:43:07.240 will be
01:43:07.860 look at a
01:43:08.920 certain ad
01:43:09.560 when it appears
01:43:10.120 on TV
01:43:10.640 in 30 seconds
01:43:11.660 listen to this
01:43:13.580 music
01:43:14.060 walk down this
01:43:15.240 aisle
01:43:15.780 in this grocery
01:43:16.780 store
01:43:17.260 and then it
01:43:18.800 will monitor
01:43:19.440 your
01:43:20.100 your monitor
01:43:21.400 your EEG
01:43:22.140 your brain waves
01:43:23.200 your heart rate
01:43:24.460 your adrenaline
01:43:25.280 all this kind
01:43:26.360 of stuff
01:43:26.900 and it feeds
01:43:28.620 that information
01:43:29.440 to marketing
01:43:30.300 companies
01:43:31.140 and you
01:43:33.300 then get paid
01:43:34.180 for doing
01:43:34.700 that task
01:43:35.460 with crypto
01:43:36.000 currency
01:43:36.500 that goes
01:43:36.940 directly
01:43:37.300 into your
01:43:37.740 account
01:43:38.140 so you
01:43:39.880 know
01:43:40.040 these
01:43:40.520 companies
01:43:41.020 like
01:43:41.560 Elon Musk
01:43:42.960 who also
01:43:43.480 controls
01:43:43.980 all the
01:43:44.320 satellites
01:43:44.780 and Gates
01:43:46.020 you know
01:43:46.360 are going
01:43:46.660 to be
01:43:46.840 putting us
01:43:47.260 all out
01:43:47.720 of business
01:43:48.060 half the
01:43:48.600 people in
01:43:48.900 this country
01:43:49.320 make some
01:43:49.960 of their
01:43:50.180 living
01:43:50.460 driving a
01:43:51.040 car
01:43:51.320 well now
01:43:52.000 they're going
01:43:52.300 to give
01:43:52.560 us
01:43:52.860 you know
01:43:53.220 these
01:43:53.720 driverless
01:43:55.740 cars
01:43:56.080 and you're
01:43:56.420 going to
01:43:56.580 have a lot
01:43:57.100 of Americans
01:43:57.600 who are
01:43:57.880 permanently
01:43:58.260 unemployed
01:43:58.740 and they're
01:43:59.580 going to
01:44:00.080 want these
01:44:01.040 chips
01:44:01.420 because you
01:44:02.380 can make
01:44:02.740 money
01:44:03.140 by doing
01:44:03.820 these tasks
01:44:04.440 by playing
01:44:04.940 a video game
01:44:05.680 or whatever
01:44:06.260 and it's
01:44:07.800 going to
01:44:08.220 it's basically
01:44:09.280 a process
01:44:09.880 of turning
01:44:10.460 us all
01:44:11.080 into production
01:44:11.880 units
01:44:12.420 all into
01:44:13.440 enslaved
01:44:14.480 consumers
01:44:15.680 and you
01:44:18.420 know
01:44:18.600 with total
01:44:19.180 surveillance
01:44:19.680 all the time
01:44:20.280 is another
01:44:21.620 chip
01:44:22.040 which will
01:44:23.480 turn off
01:44:23.940 your ovaries
01:44:24.700 and you
01:44:26.360 know
01:44:26.580 wirelessly
01:44:27.860 I'm not
01:44:29.280 making
01:44:29.600 this up
01:44:30.260 in fact
01:44:30.820 I'm going
01:44:31.120 to publish
01:44:31.880 on it
01:44:32.260 in two
01:44:32.600 days
01:44:33.060 and you
01:44:33.420 know
01:44:33.540 all
01:44:33.880 source
01:44:34.420 and everything
01:44:34.920 else
01:44:35.380 and so
01:44:37.080 you can
01:44:37.720 look for it
01:44:38.260 on children's
01:44:38.800 health defense
01:44:39.480 and on my
01:44:40.640 Instagram
01:44:41.060 and you'll
01:44:42.520 see that
01:44:42.880 these things
01:44:43.400 are real
01:44:43.820 they're not
01:44:44.340 just from
01:44:44.740 some horrible
01:44:45.520 nightmare
01:44:45.980 they're real
01:44:46.620 and they're
01:44:47.060 happening now
01:44:47.720 and this
01:44:48.160 pandemic
01:44:48.640 is allowing
01:44:49.540 them
01:44:50.020 to change
01:44:52.020 our lives
01:44:52.700 and change
01:44:53.160 our country
01:44:53.720 and put
01:44:55.060 us under
01:44:55.780 you know
01:44:56.260 into a
01:44:56.680 permanent
01:44:57.000 surveillance
01:44:57.620 state
01:44:58.020 what would
01:45:00.000 you rank
01:45:00.420 him as
01:45:00.780 the most
01:45:01.040 powerful
01:45:01.360 man in
01:45:01.720 the world
01:45:02.120 well
01:45:03.780 he's
01:45:04.340 he's the
01:45:05.880 most powerful
01:45:06.380 man in
01:45:06.800 public health
01:45:07.380 because he
01:45:08.420 owns the
01:45:09.260 WHO
01:45:09.940 he gives
01:45:10.680 10% of
01:45:11.360 their budget
01:45:11.860 and that
01:45:12.340 you know
01:45:12.700 but that
01:45:13.380 10%
01:45:13.940 that marginal
01:45:14.600 10%
01:45:15.420 is the
01:45:16.920 10%
01:45:17.380 that they'll
01:45:17.840 beg and
01:45:18.280 roll over
01:45:18.760 for
01:45:19.100 you know
01:45:20.060 and so
01:45:20.820 he has
01:45:22.020 changed
01:45:22.560 WHO
01:45:23.140 used to
01:45:23.940 do
01:45:24.160 something
01:45:24.540 that was
01:45:24.900 really
01:45:25.140 good
01:45:25.580 which is
01:45:27.020 they understood
01:45:27.800 that
01:45:28.120 disease
01:45:29.460 is a
01:45:31.340 symptom
01:45:34.060 of
01:45:34.800 poverty
01:45:36.180 and that
01:45:37.220 if you
01:45:37.500 want to
01:45:38.120 stop
01:45:39.120 disease
01:45:40.700 you
01:45:41.640 do
01:45:42.420 development
01:45:43.040 you do
01:45:43.540 nutrition
01:45:44.060 you do
01:45:44.540 clean water
01:45:45.260 you do
01:45:45.620 sanitation
01:45:46.260 that's what
01:45:47.840 they were
01:45:48.080 doing
01:45:48.400 and Gates
01:45:49.060 came in
01:45:49.560 there and
01:45:49.980 said
01:45:50.220 we don't
01:45:51.320 want to
01:45:51.560 do that
01:45:52.000 you know
01:45:53.000 we're going
01:45:53.280 to do
01:45:53.400 a little
01:45:53.660 of that
01:45:54.100 we're going
01:45:55.760 to shift
01:45:56.160 everything
01:45:56.880 toward
01:45:57.260 vaccines
01:45:57.880 and so
01:45:59.000 you know
01:45:59.380 because he
01:45:59.880 doesn't
01:46:00.220 understand
01:46:00.940 that good
01:46:01.420 health
01:46:01.780 comes from
01:46:02.580 good
01:46:03.660 immune
01:46:03.980 system
01:46:04.280 good
01:46:04.520 nutrition
01:46:04.980 good
01:46:05.240 water
01:46:05.720 clean
01:46:06.200 water
01:46:06.460 exercise
01:46:07.120 you know
01:46:08.440 wholesome
01:46:08.980 lives
01:46:09.460 he believes
01:46:11.000 the only
01:46:11.600 path to
01:46:12.140 good health
01:46:12.660 is inside
01:46:13.580 syringe
01:46:14.240 and so
01:46:15.220 now half
01:46:16.980 the
01:46:17.300 WHO's
01:46:18.720 budget
01:46:19.080 goes to
01:46:20.000 his
01:46:20.220 pet
01:46:21.300 polio
01:46:22.000 eradication
01:46:22.800 program
01:46:23.220 which is
01:46:23.840 spreading
01:46:24.160 polio
01:46:24.640 that's not
01:46:26.080 a good
01:46:26.340 thing for
01:46:26.860 anybody
01:46:27.460 have you
01:46:28.300 had a
01:46:28.520 conversation
01:46:29.020 with him
01:46:29.480 have you
01:46:29.900 and him
01:46:30.140 ever
01:46:30.300 never
01:46:31.820 respond
01:46:34.340 never
01:46:34.640 gone back
01:46:35.120 have you
01:46:36.520 have you
01:46:36.960 I know
01:46:37.520 you went
01:46:37.840 to the
01:46:38.080 White House
01:46:38.560 and you
01:46:39.100 were getting
01:46:39.500 ready to be
01:46:40.040 part of
01:46:40.400 some kind
01:46:40.780 of a
01:46:41.220 President
01:46:42.200 Trump's
01:46:42.620 committee
01:46:42.800 have you
01:46:43.560 been
01:46:43.740 communicating
01:46:44.240 with
01:46:44.460 President
01:46:44.800 Trump
01:46:45.400 or Mike
01:46:45.900 Pence
01:46:46.140 recently
01:46:46.520 about any
01:46:46.920 of this
01:46:47.140 stuff
01:46:47.340 or no
01:46:47.720 not recently
01:46:48.620 during their
01:46:49.580 first
01:46:51.580 I'd say
01:46:53.540 four or five
01:46:54.320 months
01:46:54.760 we had a lot
01:46:55.680 of meetings
01:46:56.160 with them
01:46:57.360 but then
01:46:57.940 they took
01:46:59.000 a different
01:46:59.300 direction
01:46:59.760 you know
01:47:00.240 they gave
01:47:00.720 after
01:47:01.380 President
01:47:02.900 Trump
01:47:03.240 it was
01:47:03.720 at that
01:47:04.180 time
01:47:04.600 the
01:47:06.160 President
01:47:06.480 Elect
01:47:06.980 called me
01:47:08.760 over Christmas
01:47:09.360 and he
01:47:10.020 asked
01:47:10.380 me
01:47:10.640 to come
01:47:11.000 to
01:47:11.140 New York
01:47:12.040 and meet
01:47:12.360 with him
01:47:12.600 at Trump
01:47:12.920 Tower
01:47:13.320 and I
01:47:13.920 went
01:47:14.360 and met
01:47:15.840 with him
01:47:16.340 and Pence
01:47:17.020 and Steve
01:47:17.520 Bannon
01:47:17.960 and Rance
01:47:18.540 Priebus
01:47:19.120 and Hope
01:47:19.560 Hill
01:47:19.900 and you
01:47:21.440 know
01:47:21.620 his
01:47:22.140 sons
01:47:23.040 and Kellyanne
01:47:24.440 Conway
01:47:24.920 and we
01:47:26.660 had a
01:47:27.000 meeting
01:47:27.260 and he
01:47:27.600 asked me
01:47:28.140 to be
01:47:28.640 to run
01:47:29.660 a vaccine
01:47:30.100 safety
01:47:30.480 commission
01:47:31.020 and that
01:47:32.460 got
01:47:32.940 announced
01:47:33.460 he asked
01:47:34.520 me actually
01:47:35.000 to go
01:47:35.280 to a
01:47:35.640 press
01:47:35.880 conference
01:47:36.200 that day
01:47:36.700 and announce
01:47:37.220 it
01:47:37.460 and
01:47:39.060 it
01:47:40.360 got
01:47:40.560 announced
01:47:41.060 and
01:47:41.420 then
01:47:41.780 immediately
01:47:43.100 after that
01:47:43.940 announcement
01:47:44.460 it was
01:47:44.940 a huge
01:47:45.600 blowback
01:47:46.240 but one
01:47:47.000 of the things
01:47:47.340 that happened
01:47:47.780 is Pfizer
01:47:48.580 immediately
01:47:50.460 made a million
01:47:51.160 dollar donation
01:47:52.040 to the
01:47:52.500 inaugural
01:47:52.960 party
01:47:53.840 and then
01:47:55.840 President
01:47:56.440 Trump
01:47:57.000 put
01:47:58.320 Alex
01:47:58.840 Azar
01:47:59.380 who was
01:47:59.800 a hand
01:48:00.240 picked
01:48:00.580 Pfizer
01:48:01.300 lobbyist
01:48:02.540 in charge
01:48:03.780 of HHS
01:48:04.400 he put
01:48:04.780 Gottlieb
01:48:05.500 who was also
01:48:06.160 handpicked
01:48:06.620 by Pfizer
01:48:07.360 as head
01:48:07.860 of CDC
01:48:08.340 and we
01:48:10.240 had these
01:48:10.700 really good
01:48:11.280 meetings
01:48:11.740 during the
01:48:12.200 first part
01:48:12.620 of the
01:48:12.780 administration
01:48:13.280 but as
01:48:13.700 soon as
01:48:14.020 those guys
01:48:14.460 came in
01:48:14.920 they shut
01:48:15.320 us down
01:48:15.800 and they
01:48:16.500 said we're
01:48:17.080 not going
01:48:17.340 to talk
01:48:17.660 to you
01:48:17.820 anymore
01:48:18.180 may not
01:48:19.100 be a bad
01:48:19.440 time for
01:48:19.700 an open
01:48:19.960 letter
01:48:20.220 may not
01:48:22.100 be a bad
01:48:22.640 time for
01:48:23.060 an open
01:48:23.420 letter
01:48:23.720 from you
01:48:24.200 this may
01:48:24.720 not be a
01:48:25.100 bad time
01:48:25.440 for an
01:48:25.660 open letter
01:48:26.020 from you
01:48:27.080 the problem
01:48:28.700 with an open
01:48:29.160 letter
01:48:29.500 is that
01:48:30.080 you have to
01:48:31.040 go to the
01:48:31.380 CHD's
01:48:31.980 website
01:48:32.320 to read
01:48:32.780 it
01:48:32.920 because no
01:48:33.560 newspaper
01:48:34.420 will print
01:48:34.960 anything
01:48:35.460 that we
01:48:36.180 write
01:48:36.460 you know
01:48:37.220 what's crazy
01:48:37.840 is you
01:48:38.200 sound like
01:48:38.680 a libertarian
01:48:39.380 you don't
01:48:39.920 sound like
01:48:40.400 a democrat
01:48:40.860 I mean
01:48:41.400 you know
01:48:41.900 I definitely
01:48:43.980 I've always
01:48:45.120 been a free
01:48:45.620 market
01:48:46.060 you know
01:48:46.600 my whole
01:48:47.280 environmental
01:48:49.240 I'm really
01:48:51.420 for personal
01:48:52.040 freedoms
01:48:52.540 that's what
01:48:53.080 I'm for
01:48:53.580 I'm not
01:48:54.460 a libertarian
01:48:55.340 because I
01:48:57.120 don't believe
01:48:57.680 in the
01:48:58.180 commons
01:48:58.800 that you
01:48:59.900 do need
01:49:00.660 government
01:49:00.960 regulation
01:49:01.620 in the
01:49:01.900 commons
01:49:02.240 in other
01:49:02.800 words
01:49:03.000 nobody
01:49:04.440 ever
01:49:04.700 builds
01:49:04.960 sewage
01:49:05.380 treatment
01:49:05.720 plants
01:49:06.300 you know
01:49:07.660 because
01:49:08.740 they
01:49:08.940 wanted
01:49:09.240 to
01:49:09.560 there's
01:49:10.360 no
01:49:10.540 money
01:49:10.840 in
01:49:11.020 building
01:49:11.280 that
01:49:11.480 sewage
01:49:11.780 treatment
01:49:12.080 plant
01:49:12.340 there
01:49:12.520 never
01:49:12.740 will
01:49:12.980 be
01:49:13.240 and
01:49:13.520 so
01:49:13.740 you
01:49:14.020 if
01:49:14.380 you're
01:49:14.620 going to
01:49:14.900 pollute
01:49:15.560 the publicly
01:49:16.460 owned
01:49:16.940 resources
01:49:17.660 air
01:49:18.180 water
01:49:18.600 wildlife
01:49:19.340 public land
01:49:21.380 you need
01:49:22.200 regulation
01:49:23.240 in the
01:49:23.540 commons
01:49:23.900 there's
01:49:24.160 actually
01:49:24.580 an economic
01:49:25.140 law
01:49:25.580 called
01:49:25.920 the
01:49:26.060 tragedy
01:49:26.480 of
01:49:26.640 the
01:49:26.720 commons
01:49:27.140 that
01:49:27.460 you know
01:49:28.060 that
01:49:28.320 lays
01:49:28.900 that
01:49:29.140 out
01:49:29.480 it's
01:49:30.140 all of
01:49:30.740 our
01:49:30.900 economic
01:49:31.380 interest
01:49:31.880 to catch
01:49:32.280 the last
01:49:32.720 fish
01:49:32.960 in the
01:49:33.220 ocean
01:49:33.540 it's
01:49:34.700 not in
01:49:35.060 society's
01:49:35.700 interest
01:49:36.060 and the
01:49:36.500 role of
01:49:36.820 government
01:49:37.220 is to
01:49:37.740 make sure
01:49:38.160 that that
01:49:38.520 doesn't happen
01:49:39.100 to regulate
01:49:39.600 the fishery
01:49:41.060 but why don't you
01:49:41.840 talk about
01:49:42.300 private property
01:49:43.220 I am a
01:49:44.360 libertarian
01:49:44.900 I believe
01:49:45.600 in free market
01:49:46.600 capitalism
01:49:47.220 I believe
01:49:47.900 that the
01:49:48.340 market
01:49:48.800 is
01:49:49.520 the best
01:49:51.620 way
01:49:52.180 to end
01:49:53.740 environmental
01:49:54.260 pollution
01:49:54.840 and all
01:49:55.700 pollution
01:49:56.160 is about
01:49:56.720 subsidies
01:49:57.280 and that
01:49:58.540 you know
01:49:59.160 and about
01:50:00.640 large
01:50:01.360 powerful
01:50:01.940 entities
01:50:02.340 using
01:50:02.780 political
01:50:03.300 clout
01:50:03.800 to escape
01:50:05.340 the discipline
01:50:05.940 of the free
01:50:06.460 market
01:50:06.840 and force
01:50:07.360 the public
01:50:07.820 to pay
01:50:08.180 their
01:50:08.460 cost of
01:50:09.040 production
01:50:09.400 so
01:50:09.840 I
01:50:10.280 you know
01:50:10.900 when I
01:50:11.600 speak about
01:50:13.540 the environment
01:50:14.220 to a group
01:50:14.960 republicans
01:50:15.860 I almost
01:50:16.500 always
01:50:17.060 get standing
01:50:17.840 ovations
01:50:18.420 you know
01:50:18.960 because
01:50:19.540 I'm so aligned
01:50:21.300 with
01:50:21.720 you know
01:50:22.700 I think
01:50:23.420 mainstream
01:50:24.140 classic
01:50:25.080 historical
01:50:25.740 American
01:50:26.240 thinking
01:50:26.720 about
01:50:27.200 how markets
01:50:29.020 work
01:50:29.480 I think
01:50:29.940 I would
01:50:30.480 you know
01:50:31.100 I think
01:50:31.860 Milton Freeman
01:50:32.560 would be
01:50:33.080 very
01:50:33.620 happy
01:50:35.680 with the way
01:50:36.220 that I talk
01:50:36.800 about those
01:50:37.360 things
01:50:37.740 yeah
01:50:38.800 no
01:50:39.060 and I'm a product
01:50:40.500 of Milton Freeman
01:50:41.160 obviously you see him
01:50:41.920 back here in the
01:50:42.400 painting
01:50:42.700 you sound like
01:50:44.540 a lot of that
01:50:45.020 by the way
01:50:45.580 last couple
01:50:46.340 minutes here
01:50:46.740 before we wrap up
01:50:47.460 I'd like to
01:50:47.980 you said something
01:50:49.120 here about your
01:50:49.680 family rituals
01:50:50.460 one of the things
01:50:51.120 you said every night
01:50:51.920 we were encouraged
01:50:53.260 to argue
01:50:54.100 and debate
01:50:54.900 and constantly do that
01:50:55.800 what were some
01:50:56.860 of the Kennedy
01:50:57.380 family rituals
01:50:58.320 that you guys had
01:50:59.280 well we
01:51:02.420 I mean
01:51:02.760 you know
01:51:03.460 our family
01:51:04.380 was really
01:51:04.960 Catholic family
01:51:05.740 we went to church
01:51:06.620 when I was a kid
01:51:07.540 I went to church
01:51:08.680 at least
01:51:09.340 I mean
01:51:10.000 I went to church
01:51:10.900 oftentimes
01:51:12.160 once or twice a day
01:51:13.760 we said
01:51:14.880 prayers before
01:51:16.000 and after every meal
01:51:17.020 we said
01:51:17.660 a rosary
01:51:18.460 sometimes three rosaries
01:51:19.740 a day
01:51:20.160 we read the Bible
01:51:21.020 every night
01:51:21.760 and you know
01:51:24.580 then we played
01:51:25.680 a lot of sports
01:51:26.620 a lot of outdoor
01:51:28.900 activities
01:51:30.020 and you know
01:51:33.300 and my father
01:51:34.060 loved the wilderness
01:51:34.820 and he took us
01:51:35.840 mountain climbing
01:51:36.660 he taught us all
01:51:37.680 how to whitewater
01:51:38.540 kayak
01:51:39.140 you know
01:51:40.260 we were all
01:51:41.020 scuba diving
01:51:43.500 and doing
01:51:44.320 whitewater
01:51:45.420 from
01:51:45.820 you know
01:51:46.260 at a time
01:51:47.020 when not many people
01:51:47.880 were doing those things
01:51:49.100 and my
01:51:49.600 you know
01:51:50.100 my father was
01:51:51.080 and all of my family
01:51:52.500 I think were really
01:51:53.320 interested in
01:51:54.280 the wilderness
01:51:55.080 and the outdoors
01:51:55.980 and
01:51:57.740 you know
01:51:59.080 I mean
01:51:59.500 I had a wonderful
01:52:00.400 wonderful magical life
01:52:01.980 and
01:52:02.440 you know
01:52:02.960 I'm really
01:52:03.520 grateful to God
01:52:04.760 that I
01:52:05.200 you know
01:52:05.600 I got to do
01:52:06.220 all these things
01:52:07.060 did you spend a lot of time
01:52:08.620 with your grandfather
01:52:09.360 yeah I did
01:52:11.160 what do you remember
01:52:12.660 about him
01:52:13.080 because he's
01:52:13.740 he's one of the most
01:52:14.420 interesting characters
01:52:15.460 when I was getting
01:52:16.520 my series 7
01:52:17.400 with Morgan Stanley
01:52:18.340 Dean Witter
01:52:18.860 and I took a
01:52:20.120 Dearborn class
01:52:21.260 to take my series 7
01:52:22.540 they started teaching
01:52:23.260 about SEC
01:52:23.960 and then your
01:52:24.600 his name came up
01:52:26.020 Joseph
01:52:26.300 I mean
01:52:26.620 so I'm curious
01:52:27.780 about his character
01:52:28.560 how was he
01:52:29.180 what do you remember
01:52:29.700 about him
01:52:30.040 you know
01:52:30.640 he was
01:52:31.220 I think the best thing
01:52:33.400 you can say
01:52:34.080 first of all
01:52:34.620 a lot of people
01:52:35.320 there's a lot of
01:52:36.260 garbage
01:52:36.920 about my grandfather
01:52:38.340 out there
01:52:38.960 people say
01:52:39.580 he was a bootlegger
01:52:40.740 which is laughable
01:52:42.220 you know
01:52:42.680 there's never
01:52:43.560 nobody even made
01:52:45.900 that claim
01:52:46.660 during
01:52:47.640 until after
01:52:48.740 1964
01:52:50.060 but my grandfather
01:52:51.260 as you know
01:52:52.600 he had been through
01:52:54.260 three separate
01:52:55.080 Senate confirmations
01:52:56.240 he was the first
01:52:57.340 head of the SEC
01:52:58.220 he was the
01:52:59.860 and you know
01:53:01.120 really
01:53:01.420 with Roosevelt
01:53:02.560 saved Wall Street
01:53:03.780 he was
01:53:05.360 the ambassador
01:53:06.120 to Great Britain
01:53:07.620 during World War II
01:53:08.740 he was
01:53:09.640 the head of
01:53:10.800 the Maritime Commission
01:53:12.680 and these were
01:53:14.900 when he was a young man
01:53:16.220 he was the youngest
01:53:17.280 bank president
01:53:18.100 in our country
01:53:18.840 after he graduated
01:53:19.700 from Harvard
01:53:20.280 he was
01:53:21.720 he worked as
01:53:22.540 a bank examiner
01:53:24.700 for a couple of years
01:53:25.660 and then he
01:53:26.420 he took over
01:53:28.320 a bank
01:53:29.700 that was
01:53:30.320 the target
01:53:30.920 of a hostile takeover
01:53:32.100 by a big national
01:53:33.340 conglomerate
01:53:34.040 that it was a local
01:53:34.740 bank in Boston
01:53:35.680 that his father
01:53:37.660 had been involved in
01:53:38.600 and he went
01:53:39.120 and he took it over
01:53:40.260 and he made it
01:53:40.800 a success story
01:53:41.540 and then he went out
01:53:42.180 to Hollywood
01:53:42.680 and he made
01:53:43.380 hundreds of films
01:53:44.780 out here
01:53:45.280 he started one
01:53:45.840 of the biggest studios
01:53:46.820 he helped start
01:53:48.240 RKO
01:53:48.820 after my uncle died
01:53:51.000 there was
01:53:52.400 you know
01:53:52.680 the CIA
01:53:53.100 I've written a book
01:53:54.080 about the CIA's
01:53:55.320 relationship
01:53:56.060 with my family
01:53:56.860 about its 70 year
01:53:58.180 battle with my family
01:53:59.240 and there was
01:54:00.880 a guy
01:54:01.340 in the CIA
01:54:02.280 called Sam
01:54:03.000 Albert
01:54:03.420 whose job
01:54:04.300 was to tar
01:54:05.440 the Kennedy names
01:54:06.440 a lot of the bad
01:54:08.100 things that you hear
01:54:09.000 about my family
01:54:09.840 including this
01:54:10.820 this rumor
01:54:12.920 that my uncle
01:54:14.240 was
01:54:14.500 my grandfather
01:54:15.320 was a bootlegger
01:54:16.120 came from Sam
01:54:16.860 Albert
01:54:17.080 it's absurd
01:54:18.200 to think he was
01:54:18.840 my grandfather
01:54:20.260 had so many enemies
01:54:21.620 including
01:54:22.480 you know
01:54:22.780 he was despised
01:54:24.040 because
01:54:24.720 he was the only
01:54:25.740 guy from Wall Street
01:54:26.600 who had supported
01:54:27.240 Roosevelt
01:54:27.740 and if he'd had
01:54:29.520 anything like that
01:54:30.700 in his past
01:54:31.480 if his past
01:54:32.180 had not been
01:54:32.860 squeaky clean
01:54:33.820 he would have been
01:54:35.280 completely obliterated
01:54:36.900 in those Senate
01:54:37.480 confirmation hearings
01:54:38.500 which were at least
01:54:39.540 as vicious
01:54:40.040 as they are today
01:54:41.100 and he would never
01:54:43.160 have gotten the
01:54:43.680 appointment to
01:54:44.300 Great Britain
01:54:44.880 if he'd been a
01:54:45.580 bootlegger
01:54:46.260 the head of the SEC
01:54:47.340 he couldn't have
01:54:48.100 done that
01:54:48.440 and Roosevelt
01:54:48.980 asked him
01:54:49.860 is there anything
01:54:50.860 in your past
01:54:51.700 that you know
01:54:52.780 would come back
01:54:53.620 on us
01:54:54.320 because I'm terrified
01:54:55.120 about these hearings
01:54:56.100 and my grandfather
01:54:58.440 said I have never
01:54:59.300 done anything
01:55:00.100 that would
01:55:00.960 that would
01:55:02.160 that would
01:55:03.420 tar the name
01:55:04.480 or injure my reputation
01:55:05.880 because of my children
01:55:07.040 and but
01:55:08.660 his
01:55:09.540 you know
01:55:09.880 the best part
01:55:10.500 I used to go
01:55:11.400 horseback riding
01:55:12.440 with him every morning
01:55:13.420 he would take us
01:55:14.140 he was
01:55:14.480 he was extremely
01:55:15.500 punctual
01:55:16.140 if you were
01:55:17.800 one minute late
01:55:18.720 he would be gone
01:55:20.280 he would never
01:55:21.800 wait for anybody
01:55:22.520 and he would never
01:55:23.080 keep anybody waiting
01:55:24.040 and he would
01:55:26.120 when we went
01:55:27.220 to dinner
01:55:27.560 at his house
01:55:28.060 the families
01:55:28.960 all took turns
01:55:29.920 going to dinner
01:55:30.540 at his house
01:55:31.060 we all lived
01:55:31.760 in one compound
01:55:32.620 and he would
01:55:34.840 question us
01:55:35.640 he and my grandmother
01:55:36.380 would question us
01:55:37.320 on
01:55:37.660 they would
01:55:40.500 make us look
01:55:41.680 they had maps
01:55:42.460 of the whole world
01:55:43.180 on their wall
01:55:44.020 and they'd say
01:55:44.620 find Karachi
01:55:45.500 tell us
01:55:46.260 for Xantabar
01:55:46.940 they'd tell us
01:55:48.680 they'd ask us
01:55:50.100 about the roots
01:55:51.360 of words
01:55:52.080 they were Latin
01:55:53.320 or Greek
01:55:53.920 they would
01:55:55.120 ask us
01:55:56.580 to speak
01:55:57.460 Spanish
01:55:58.240 or French
01:55:58.740 my grandmother
01:56:00.380 would cut out
01:56:01.260 would write down
01:56:02.680 quotes
01:56:03.100 or take clippings
01:56:04.260 out of the newspaper
01:56:05.020 and she would
01:56:06.080 pin them to her
01:56:07.180 sweater
01:56:07.520 and then she would
01:56:08.360 take these long
01:56:09.060 walks with us
01:56:09.840 and pull the
01:56:10.500 pins off the sweater
01:56:11.540 and ask us
01:56:12.200 questions about it
01:56:13.200 and we were
01:56:14.720 constantly being
01:56:15.600 quizzed by them
01:56:17.000 and they were
01:56:17.400 constantly asking
01:56:18.380 us to argue
01:56:19.220 to make arguments
01:56:20.220 to take
01:56:21.760 positions
01:56:22.260 on issues
01:56:22.940 and it was
01:56:23.560 really
01:56:23.800 it was a magical
01:56:24.660 way to grow up
01:56:25.520 I love that
01:56:26.280 I love
01:56:26.660 is it true
01:56:27.500 the fact that
01:56:28.040 your grandfather
01:56:28.580 sat down
01:56:29.140 his son
01:56:29.500 and said
01:56:29.820 which one of you
01:56:30.440 guys are going
01:56:30.720 to be a president
01:56:31.220 first
01:56:31.620 was
01:56:32.000 no
01:56:32.360 of course not
01:56:34.220 and was it
01:56:35.520 encouraged
01:56:36.440 that's not the way
01:56:37.660 that he talked
01:56:38.280 to them
01:56:38.500 what he
01:56:39.100 what he tried
01:56:40.100 to do
01:56:40.560 is really
01:56:41.120 instill in them
01:56:42.400 a love
01:56:44.940 for public affairs
01:56:45.920 and a knowledge
01:56:46.680 about it
01:56:47.080 and he
01:56:47.420 he sent
01:56:48.080 he hated
01:56:50.180 Harold Lasky
01:56:51.880 who was
01:56:52.780 a very famous
01:56:54.220 communist
01:56:54.800 professor
01:56:56.040 at the London
01:56:57.000 School of Economics
01:56:57.920 and he
01:56:58.300 my uncle
01:56:59.100 I mean my grandfather
01:57:00.420 despised communism
01:57:01.620 but he sent
01:57:03.300 all of his kids
01:57:04.280 to study under Lasky
01:57:05.720 because he wanted
01:57:07.680 them to be able
01:57:08.760 to make up
01:57:09.200 their own minds
01:57:09.940 about life
01:57:10.620 and then he
01:57:11.420 you know
01:57:11.960 and he made sure
01:57:12.980 that they visited
01:57:13.820 that they became
01:57:15.820 they all became
01:57:16.480 journalists first
01:57:17.420 and so that they
01:57:18.520 could tour the world
01:57:19.400 that they could
01:57:19.920 speak to people
01:57:20.660 wherever he was
01:57:22.180 whether he was
01:57:23.620 in a cab
01:57:24.180 or whatever
01:57:24.640 he would always
01:57:25.620 be talking to people
01:57:26.640 and asking them
01:57:27.360 about their lives
01:57:28.240 and all of my
01:57:29.180 you know
01:57:30.180 that generation
01:57:31.060 was constantly
01:57:32.240 interrogating people
01:57:33.440 whether they were
01:57:34.120 fishmongers
01:57:35.060 or commercial fishmen
01:57:36.300 or cab drivers
01:57:38.700 you know
01:57:39.280 they
01:57:39.500 as soon as
01:57:40.460 they sat down
01:57:41.140 with somebody
01:57:41.640 they would be
01:57:42.140 asking questions
01:57:43.040 about him
01:57:43.460 so
01:57:43.760 my grandfather
01:57:45.680 you know
01:57:47.020 certainly
01:57:47.420 he grew up
01:57:48.360 in a political
01:57:48.920 family
01:57:49.440 his
01:57:50.880 his father
01:57:52.200 was
01:57:53.940 a state
01:57:55.360 senator
01:57:55.820 and he was
01:57:57.560 a political
01:57:58.160 leader
01:57:58.620 very respected
01:57:59.560 political leader
01:58:00.260 in Boston
01:58:00.700 very honest
01:58:01.620 honest man
01:58:02.460 P.J. Kennedy
01:58:03.240 whose grandparents
01:58:05.280 had come over
01:58:06.100 from Ireland
01:58:06.720 and the famine
01:58:07.360 and you know
01:58:09.300 the Irish
01:58:10.640 were just
01:58:11.120 breaking into
01:58:11.720 politics
01:58:12.260 in Boston
01:58:12.760 at that time
01:58:13.400 his father-in-law
01:58:14.380 my grandmother's
01:58:15.400 father
01:58:15.840 Honeyfist
01:58:16.540 was really
01:58:18.180 the first
01:58:18.840 Irish Catholic
01:58:19.620 mayor of Boston
01:58:20.620 his name was
01:58:21.560 Honeyfist
01:58:22.260 and he had
01:58:22.880 beautiful
01:58:23.400 he was called
01:58:24.240 Honeyfist
01:58:24.860 Fitzgerald
01:58:25.720 Honeyfist
01:58:26.940 because he had
01:58:27.460 a beautiful
01:58:27.940 Irish tenor
01:58:28.900 and he would
01:58:29.620 sing
01:58:30.100 at the crowds
01:58:30.980 he would
01:58:31.620 do these
01:58:33.280 torchlight parades
01:58:34.500 where they would
01:58:35.400 go out on a
01:58:36.040 flatbed truck
01:58:36.920 that was
01:58:37.360 hauled by mules
01:58:38.360 or by a truck
01:58:39.280 and there
01:58:40.520 would be
01:58:40.940 a piano
01:58:41.620 on it
01:58:42.140 and my
01:58:42.520 grandmother
01:58:43.020 you know
01:58:43.960 who was
01:58:44.660 a beautiful
01:58:45.240 pianist
01:58:45.880 when she was
01:58:46.580 a teen
01:58:47.000 would play
01:58:47.420 the piano
01:58:47.900 and he
01:58:48.320 would
01:58:48.500 sing
01:58:49.340 Sweet Adeline
01:58:50.060 to the crowds
01:58:50.980 and he
01:58:51.260 would gather
01:58:51.720 a big crowd
01:58:52.280 and they
01:58:52.680 would give
01:58:54.200 these speeches
01:58:54.880 but they
01:58:55.340 were
01:58:55.580 you know
01:58:56.000 so they
01:58:56.320 grew up
01:58:56.820 in a
01:58:57.100 political
01:58:57.500 milieu
01:58:57.940 and it
01:58:58.460 was at
01:58:58.740 a time
01:58:59.320 when
01:58:59.680 the Irish
01:59:01.360 when they
01:59:01.760 arrived
01:59:02.220 here
01:59:02.580 had been
01:59:03.100 forbidden
01:59:03.720 for 800
01:59:04.540 years
01:59:05.060 from
01:59:05.420 participating
01:59:06.100 in politics
01:59:06.960 and so
01:59:08.000 when they
01:59:08.340 arrived
01:59:08.880 on these
01:59:09.500 shores
01:59:09.840 they took
01:59:10.540 to politics
01:59:11.420 the way
01:59:11.900 that a
01:59:12.240 starving
01:59:12.740 man
01:59:13.620 takes
01:59:14.000 to food
01:59:14.520 and you
01:59:15.460 know
01:59:15.720 and that's
01:59:16.400 where they
01:59:17.680 they were
01:59:18.080 denied wealth
01:59:18.920 they were
01:59:19.220 denied entrance
01:59:20.200 into the big
01:59:20.720 clubs
01:59:21.180 and the one
01:59:21.800 thing that
01:59:22.280 they could
01:59:22.660 compete in
01:59:23.320 was their
01:59:24.080 religion
01:59:24.520 and their
01:59:24.980 politics
01:59:25.540 and that's
01:59:26.020 what they
01:59:26.320 did
01:59:26.580 you know
01:59:27.760 you seem
01:59:28.720 like the
01:59:29.020 type of
01:59:29.320 person that
01:59:29.760 does a lot
01:59:30.180 of due
01:59:30.400 diligence
01:59:30.740 and research
01:59:31.420 I was
01:59:31.920 I've always
01:59:32.440 been fascinated
01:59:33.100 with the
01:59:34.420 story of JFK
01:59:35.220 assassination
01:59:36.100 I've interviewed
01:59:36.960 Jim Jenkins
01:59:37.720 who was
01:59:38.300 one of the
01:59:38.780 autopsy folks
01:59:39.780 who was in
01:59:40.760 the room
01:59:41.100 I've sat
01:59:41.520 with Clint
01:59:42.040 Hill
01:59:42.320 which Clint
01:59:42.900 Hill
01:59:43.220 you obviously
01:59:44.360 know who
01:59:44.680 Clint Hill
01:59:45.120 is
01:59:45.400 and his
01:59:46.380 interview
01:59:46.880 with us
01:59:47.360 has around
01:59:47.740 4 million
01:59:48.260 views
01:59:48.700 sat down
01:59:49.960 with Abraham
01:59:50.500 Bolden
01:59:51.020 sat down
01:59:51.460 with several
01:59:52.140 different people
01:59:52.720 to talk about
01:59:53.420 that
01:59:53.700 over the
01:59:54.920 years
01:59:55.280 whether it's
01:59:56.140 you know
01:59:56.440 1968
01:59:57.240 with your
01:59:58.020 father
01:59:58.420 or your
01:59:58.880 uncle
01:59:59.260 I can only
02:00:01.180 imagine
02:00:01.740 you reading
02:00:02.540 pretty much
02:00:03.060 anything and
02:00:03.760 everything that
02:00:04.360 comes up
02:00:04.960 about that
02:00:05.480 topic
02:00:05.760 you know
02:00:06.080 it's one of
02:00:06.420 the most
02:00:06.580 talked about
02:00:07.060 topics around
02:00:07.640 the world
02:00:08.040 what conclusion
02:00:10.300 do you have
02:00:11.240 so far today
02:00:12.440 with what
02:00:13.460 happened both
02:00:14.100 with your
02:00:14.440 father and
02:00:15.000 your uncle
02:00:15.500 I have
02:00:17.600 spent a lot
02:00:18.620 of time
02:00:18.960 researching
02:00:19.460 and I
02:00:19.780 actually
02:00:20.320 got deep
02:00:21.540 into the
02:00:21.840 research
02:00:22.180 and actually
02:00:22.600 started
02:00:23.000 interviewing
02:00:23.600 people
02:00:24.280 for when
02:00:26.740 I wrote
02:00:27.080 my latest
02:00:28.100 book
02:00:28.420 American Values
02:00:29.380 I did
02:00:30.460 two chapters
02:00:31.120 on the
02:00:31.460 assassinations
02:00:32.520 and the last
02:00:33.160 minute I
02:00:33.540 left them out
02:00:34.140 but if
02:00:34.400 you read
02:00:34.760 the book
02:00:35.080 you can
02:00:35.380 see where
02:00:35.880 it's
02:00:36.080 going
02:00:36.460 and I
02:00:37.880 interviewed
02:00:38.220 people
02:00:38.880 who were
02:00:39.640 you know
02:00:40.360 who were
02:00:42.500 part of
02:00:43.080 a Cuban
02:00:43.960 CIA group
02:00:45.580 which is
02:00:46.500 clearly the
02:00:47.100 group
02:00:47.380 that was
02:00:48.060 that you
02:00:49.260 know
02:00:49.440 was involved
02:00:50.720 in my
02:00:51.240 uncle's
02:00:51.620 assassination
02:00:52.140 I interviewed
02:00:54.340 CIA officials
02:00:56.400 I interviewed
02:00:57.360 twice
02:00:58.320 I spent
02:01:00.340 time with
02:01:01.260 Fido Castro
02:01:02.040 talking about
02:01:02.980 him
02:01:03.260 and talking
02:01:04.640 because the
02:01:05.080 Cubans were
02:01:05.560 so deeply
02:01:06.180 involved
02:01:06.800 in
02:01:07.260 you know
02:01:09.180 the CIA
02:01:09.740 Cubans
02:01:10.400 the same
02:01:10.880 ones who
02:01:11.160 were trying
02:01:11.440 to kill
02:01:11.720 Castro
02:01:12.200 were the
02:01:13.660 ones
02:01:14.040 that division
02:01:15.080 that was
02:01:15.580 led by
02:01:16.020 David Atlee
02:01:16.660 Phillips
02:01:17.100 and Phillips
02:01:18.700 was a
02:01:20.120 CIA propagandist
02:01:23.440 he had been
02:01:24.020 involved in
02:01:24.860 the 1953
02:01:25.760 coup in
02:01:26.880 Guatemala
02:01:27.300 against Jacob
02:01:28.240 R.
02:01:28.500 Benz
02:01:28.840 he was
02:01:29.140 at the
02:01:29.420 Bay of
02:01:29.700 Pigs
02:01:30.040 he was
02:01:31.420 doing
02:01:31.620 propaganda
02:01:32.060 there
02:01:32.520 and then
02:01:32.860 he ran
02:01:33.520 the Cuban
02:01:34.620 sabotage
02:01:35.300 program
02:01:35.900 Alpha 66
02:01:36.840 these
02:01:37.620 you know
02:01:37.980 raiding
02:01:38.340 groups
02:01:38.740 and it
02:01:40.060 was people
02:01:40.460 from that
02:01:40.960 those teams
02:01:42.300 that you
02:01:43.020 know
02:01:43.140 were the
02:01:43.600 team
02:01:44.160 that was
02:01:45.200 involved
02:01:45.560 in the
02:01:45.800 assassination
02:01:46.320 Lee Harvey
02:01:47.220 Oswald
02:01:47.800 he was
02:01:48.660 also
02:01:49.340 Lee Harvey
02:01:50.940 Oswald's
02:01:51.600 case
02:01:51.900 officer
02:01:52.560 David
02:01:53.600 Atlee
02:01:53.940 Phillips
02:01:54.300 originally
02:01:54.860 Lee Harvey
02:01:55.440 Oswald
02:01:56.100 had worked
02:01:56.660 directly
02:01:57.180 for
02:01:57.700 James
02:01:58.180 Jesus
02:01:58.580 Angleton
02:01:59.140 who was
02:01:59.600 the
02:01:59.740 counter
02:01:59.980 intelligent
02:02:00.460 so
02:02:00.880 Lee Harvey
02:02:02.380 Oswald
02:02:02.920 had been
02:02:03.400 a
02:02:03.820 radar
02:02:05.380 operator
02:02:06.120 at
02:02:06.700 the
02:02:06.920 Atsui
02:02:07.420 Air Force
02:02:08.460 base
02:02:08.980 in
02:02:09.420 Japan
02:02:11.000 and that's
02:02:12.000 where the
02:02:12.460 U-2 flights
02:02:13.440 had taken
02:02:13.820 off
02:02:14.080 so he had
02:02:14.540 very high
02:02:15.380 security
02:02:16.060 post
02:02:17.380 top secret
02:02:18.080 he
02:02:20.080 defected
02:02:21.880 to the
02:02:22.120 Soviet
02:02:22.380 unit
02:02:22.740 in 1957
02:02:23.620 and
02:02:25.060 and then
02:02:26.260 but his
02:02:26.940 defection
02:02:27.460 was what
02:02:28.420 they called
02:02:29.020 a dangle
02:02:30.120 it wasn't
02:02:30.900 a real
02:02:31.220 defection
02:02:31.760 he was
02:02:32.320 actually
02:02:32.740 a CIA
02:02:33.380 asset
02:02:33.940 from that
02:02:34.560 time
02:02:34.960 and he
02:02:36.420 was working
02:02:36.900 for Angleton
02:02:37.560 and the
02:02:38.040 reason for
02:02:39.040 his defection
02:02:39.740 was that
02:02:40.420 Angleton
02:02:41.080 that there
02:02:41.620 was a mole
02:02:42.300 in Langley
02:02:43.120 that they
02:02:43.580 never found
02:02:44.420 and it's
02:02:44.780 the reason
02:02:45.280 they never
02:02:45.780 had a good
02:02:46.260 spy in
02:02:46.840 Russia
02:02:47.160 because as
02:02:48.400 soon as
02:02:48.800 they got
02:02:49.280 somebody who
02:02:49.860 defected
02:02:50.460 he'd
02:02:50.680 immediately
02:02:51.040 get killed
02:02:51.660 because there
02:02:52.080 was somebody
02:02:52.500 in Langley
02:02:53.160 telling
02:02:53.760 Angleton
02:02:54.580 who ran
02:02:55.260 that division
02:02:56.020 counterintelligence
02:02:56.860 which was
02:02:57.240 supposed to
02:02:58.300 trap
02:02:58.740 Russian spies
02:02:59.660 recruited
02:03:01.560 Oswald
02:03:02.400 to make
02:03:04.540 a fake
02:03:04.960 defection
02:03:05.440 to Russia
02:03:05.940 because he
02:03:06.680 believed
02:03:07.140 he had
02:03:08.140 his file
02:03:08.860 on a trigger
02:03:09.840 at Langley
02:03:10.780 and they
02:03:12.300 assumed
02:03:12.740 that the KGB
02:03:13.600 would be
02:03:14.080 wondering
02:03:14.400 who is
02:03:15.000 this guy
02:03:15.520 is he
02:03:16.040 real
02:03:16.400 and that
02:03:16.960 they would
02:03:17.340 contact
02:03:17.840 the mole
02:03:18.200 at Langley
02:03:18.800 and say
02:03:19.220 go pull
02:03:19.820 his file
02:03:20.460 and tell
02:03:20.880 us what
02:03:21.180 it says
02:03:21.660 so he
02:03:22.340 had a
02:03:22.940 trigger
02:03:23.240 system
02:03:23.660 and eyes
02:03:24.340 on that
02:03:24.760 file
02:03:25.140 so that
02:03:25.540 he would
02:03:25.860 know
02:03:26.260 if somebody
02:03:27.620 pulled it
02:03:28.000 and he'd
02:03:28.220 know that
02:03:28.540 that was
02:03:28.900 the mole
02:03:29.360 it never
02:03:30.860 happened
02:03:31.280 and so
02:03:32.440 Oswald
02:03:33.660 was recalled
02:03:34.400 from Moscow
02:03:36.140 three years
02:03:36.720 later
02:03:36.920 by then
02:03:37.420 he'd already
02:03:38.040 married
02:03:38.640 the daughter
02:03:39.700 of a KGB
02:03:40.560 colonel
02:03:41.200 and you know
02:03:41.820 he came back
02:03:42.340 here with
02:03:42.680 Marina
02:03:43.040 he was
02:03:43.640 met at the
02:03:44.360 airport
02:03:44.700 never interrogated
02:03:46.140 by the
02:03:46.420 he was
02:03:46.800 given money
02:03:47.480 to return
02:03:47.980 by the
02:03:48.400 state department
02:03:48.940 six hundred
02:03:49.540 dollars
02:03:50.000 he flew to
02:03:51.800 Dallas
02:03:52.120 he was met
02:03:53.020 by CIA
02:03:53.880 agents
02:03:54.860 or assets
02:03:55.680 in Dallas
02:03:56.180 who then
02:03:56.780 took care of
02:03:57.500 him
02:03:57.740 who ended up
02:03:58.620 getting him
02:03:59.040 the job
02:03:59.400 at the
02:03:59.640 book depository
02:04:00.640 who took care
02:04:02.520 of him
02:04:02.740 through all
02:04:03.120 of his
02:04:03.400 sojourns
02:04:04.720 but the whole
02:04:05.720 time he was
02:04:06.460 reporting to
02:04:07.080 two men
02:04:07.580 David Johanides
02:04:08.580 who was
02:04:10.740 who ended up
02:04:11.500 being the
02:04:11.800 liaison
02:04:12.260 with the
02:04:12.880 Warren
02:04:13.120 Commission
02:04:13.540 and his
02:04:15.120 job was
02:04:15.560 just to
02:04:15.880 hide
02:04:16.160 stuff
02:04:16.560 and of
02:04:17.240 course
02:04:17.560 Alan
02:04:18.400 Dulles
02:04:18.880 who was
02:04:19.320 the head
02:04:19.600 of the CIA
02:04:20.160 that my
02:04:20.660 uncle had
02:04:21.220 fired
02:04:21.700 and who
02:04:22.580 was the
02:04:22.880 chief
02:04:23.060 suspect
02:04:23.560 of the
02:04:23.920 assassination
02:04:24.600 ran the
02:04:25.960 Warren
02:04:26.180 Commission
02:04:26.600 got himself
02:04:27.280 appointed
02:04:27.700 to it
02:04:28.160 and ran
02:04:28.660 to hide
02:04:29.400 the CIA's
02:04:30.180 involvement
02:04:30.620 but Oswald
02:04:33.000 was
02:04:33.780 you know
02:04:34.660 was a
02:04:35.080 pro-Kennedy
02:04:35.820 guy
02:04:36.300 loved my
02:04:36.980 uncle
02:04:37.440 and you
02:04:38.180 know
02:04:38.360 was really
02:04:39.460 kind of
02:04:40.040 misused
02:04:41.680 by David
02:04:42.640 Athley Phillips
02:04:43.360 and the CIA
02:04:43.940 and I
02:04:45.380 spoke to
02:04:46.360 Cubans
02:04:47.400 who met
02:04:47.880 Oswald
02:04:48.660 and met
02:04:51.100 him with
02:04:51.600 David Athley
02:04:52.200 Phillips
02:04:52.520 and you
02:04:53.560 know
02:04:53.720 I think
02:04:54.600 it's
02:04:54.840 you know
02:04:55.640 at the
02:04:56.040 time
02:04:56.280 the
02:04:56.440 Warren
02:04:56.740 Commission
02:04:57.240 they were
02:04:58.880 able to
02:04:59.300 hide
02:04:59.540 the CIA
02:05:00.040 involvement
02:05:00.620 but by
02:05:01.180 75
02:05:02.640 when they
02:05:03.840 you know
02:05:04.240 Hart's
02:05:04.640 committee
02:05:04.900 met
02:05:05.260 they
02:05:05.680 made the
02:05:06.220 conclusion
02:05:06.740 that yeah
02:05:07.320 it was a
02:05:08.100 conspiracy
02:05:08.700 and the
02:05:10.200 actually
02:05:10.860 the
02:05:11.400 staff
02:05:13.220 for
02:05:14.540 that
02:05:15.160 committee
02:05:15.620 all
02:05:16.220 concluded
02:05:17.260 that it
02:05:17.600 was the
02:05:17.900 CIA
02:05:18.260 that had
02:05:18.960 done
02:05:19.260 and I
02:05:19.640 think
02:05:19.860 now
02:05:20.440 we have
02:05:21.100 so much
02:05:21.760 evidence
02:05:22.200 and so
02:05:22.560 much
02:05:22.820 documentation
02:05:23.760 that it
02:05:24.360 really
02:05:25.120 would be
02:05:26.140 almost
02:05:26.800 crazy
02:05:27.320 to think
02:05:28.100 that they
02:05:28.500 were not
02:05:29.080 you know
02:05:30.040 behind it
02:05:30.900 in terms
02:05:31.680 of my
02:05:31.920 dad
02:05:32.220 I never
02:05:32.660 believed
02:05:33.060 that there
02:05:33.420 was
02:05:33.600 conspiracy
02:05:34.300 I always
02:05:34.960 believed
02:05:35.420 that Sir
02:05:37.160 Anne
02:05:37.400 had acted
02:05:37.840 alone
02:05:38.260 there was
02:05:39.420 so much
02:05:39.820 evidence
02:05:40.300 against him
02:05:41.040 his diaries
02:05:41.920 and
02:05:42.460 everything
02:05:43.500 else
02:05:44.060 and
02:05:45.460 there were
02:05:46.240 77
02:05:46.700 eyewitnesses
02:05:48.100 to him
02:05:49.280 shooting
02:05:49.760 my dad
02:05:50.180 but then
02:05:50.740 you know
02:05:51.060 when I
02:05:51.340 started
02:05:51.560 talking
02:05:51.980 to
02:05:52.120 people
02:05:52.440 I
02:05:52.700 realized
02:05:53.140 there
02:05:53.500 was
02:05:53.680 a lot
02:05:54.180 of
02:05:54.940 there
02:05:56.540 were
02:05:56.620 a lot
02:05:56.820 of
02:05:56.920 problems
02:05:57.320 with
02:05:57.480 the
02:05:57.600 story
02:05:57.880 Oswald
02:05:58.500 could not
02:06:00.160 have shot
02:06:00.500 my father
02:06:01.100 Oswald
02:06:01.780 we know
02:06:02.400 what happened
02:06:02.760 to all
02:06:02.980 of his
02:06:03.220 bullets
02:06:03.620 Oswald
02:06:04.380 was
02:06:05.860 at the
02:06:07.360 closest
02:06:07.760 of five
02:06:08.540 feet
02:06:08.760 from my
02:06:09.120 father
02:06:09.520 his hand
02:06:10.420 his body
02:06:11.600 was
02:06:12.080 eight feet
02:06:13.200 that's the
02:06:14.600 closest
02:06:14.980 and he
02:06:15.620 fired
02:06:16.160 two shots
02:06:16.980 Sirhan
02:06:17.640 Sirhan
02:06:18.300 sorry
02:06:18.580 Sirhan met
02:06:19.900 my father
02:06:20.480 in the
02:06:20.780 ambassador
02:06:21.160 hotel
02:06:21.520 kitchen
02:06:21.940 and he
02:06:22.200 was
02:06:22.360 standing
02:06:22.660 on the
02:06:22.880 other
02:06:23.100 side
02:06:23.560 of a
02:06:24.520 steam
02:06:25.100 table
02:06:25.460 my father
02:06:27.200 walked
02:06:27.500 toward him
02:06:27.980 he fired
02:06:29.340 two shots
02:06:30.160 at my
02:06:30.700 father
02:06:31.020 one of
02:06:31.460 those shots
02:06:32.120 hit
02:06:32.460 Paul Schrade
02:06:33.200 who was
02:06:33.640 a labor
02:06:33.960 organizer
02:06:34.540 for my
02:06:34.960 father
02:06:35.280 in the
02:06:35.580 head
02:06:35.860 all is
02:06:37.220 alive
02:06:37.540 today
02:06:37.880 and very
02:06:38.280 close
02:06:38.620 friends
02:06:39.020 and has
02:06:39.300 been
02:06:39.480 trying
02:06:40.020 for 20
02:06:40.980 years
02:06:41.260 to get
02:06:41.600 Sirhan
02:06:42.160 out of
02:06:42.420 jail
02:06:42.700 because
02:06:42.920 he knows
02:06:43.300 he's
02:06:43.520 innocent
02:06:43.800 and he
02:06:45.040 is the
02:06:45.360 one
02:06:45.580 who
02:06:45.760 forced
02:06:46.420 me
02:06:46.700 to sit
02:06:47.120 down
02:06:47.420 and look
02:06:47.720 at the
02:06:47.940 evidence
02:06:48.320 of the
02:06:48.740 autopsy
02:06:49.320 report
02:06:49.700 etc
02:06:50.000 the other
02:06:52.200 bullet
02:06:52.460 that he
02:06:52.760 fired
02:06:53.100 toward
02:06:53.380 my
02:06:53.800 father
02:06:54.180 went
02:06:54.460 past
02:06:55.460 my
02:06:55.680 father's
02:06:56.140 ear
02:06:56.460 and landed
02:06:57.140 in the
02:06:57.460 doorjamb
02:06:58.020 and was
02:06:58.380 extracted
02:06:58.980 from the
02:06:59.520 doorjamb
02:07:00.020 so we
02:07:00.420 know what
02:07:00.700 happened
02:07:00.900 to those
02:07:01.140 two bullets
02:07:01.540 as soon
02:07:01.980 as he
02:07:02.240 fired
02:07:02.560 those
02:07:02.960 there was
02:07:04.220 a dog
02:07:04.600 pile on
02:07:05.520 by Rosie
02:07:06.560 Greer
02:07:06.980 and
02:07:07.220 Rayford
02:07:08.540 Johnson
02:07:09.060 and
02:07:09.600 the
02:07:10.980 concierge
02:07:14.600 for the
02:07:14.880 hotel
02:07:15.360 a whole
02:07:17.040 bunch
02:07:17.240 of people
02:07:17.520 grabbed
02:07:17.980 him
02:07:18.120 and the
02:07:18.340 first
02:07:18.580 thing
02:07:18.740 they did
02:07:19.080 this point
02:07:19.700 hit
02:07:19.900 was
02:07:20.000 getting
02:07:20.180 away
02:07:20.580 from
02:07:20.800 my
02:07:21.000 father
02:07:21.360 in the
02:07:22.100 opposite
02:07:22.400 direction
02:07:23.000 but they
02:07:23.780 couldn't
02:07:24.120 get it
02:07:24.360 away
02:07:24.600 from him
02:07:25.280 and
02:07:26.500 Sirhan
02:07:26.860 fired
02:07:27.340 six
02:07:28.020 other
02:07:28.600 shots
02:07:29.060 and
02:07:29.360 emptied
02:07:29.700 the
02:07:29.860 chamber
02:07:30.120 it
02:07:30.340 was
02:07:30.380 an
02:07:30.920 eight
02:07:31.100 shot
02:07:31.300 revolver
02:07:31.960 and
02:07:33.460 every
02:07:34.240 one
02:07:34.420 of those
02:07:34.660 shots
02:07:35.000 hit
02:07:35.240 somebody
02:07:35.640 so we
02:07:36.180 know
02:07:36.340 what
02:07:36.480 happened
02:07:36.760 to
02:07:36.880 all
02:07:37.020 of them
02:07:37.760 there's
02:07:38.840 two
02:07:39.040 shots
02:07:39.360 that
02:07:39.600 way
02:07:39.780 we
02:07:39.940 know
02:07:40.120 what
02:07:40.280 happened
02:07:40.600 and
02:07:40.940 there
02:07:41.040 were
02:07:41.160 six
02:07:41.380 shots
02:07:41.620 the
02:07:41.740 other
02:07:41.880 way
02:07:42.100 my
02:07:42.640 father
02:07:43.160 was
02:07:44.540 killed
02:07:44.860 by
02:07:45.100 four
02:07:45.380 shots
02:07:45.780 from
02:07:46.600 behind
02:07:47.100 and
02:07:48.560 all
02:07:48.960 according
02:07:49.420 to
02:07:49.640 Thomas
02:07:49.960 Noguchi's
02:07:50.520 autopsy
02:07:51.160 Thomas
02:07:51.480 Noguchi
02:07:51.820 never
02:07:52.120 believes
02:07:52.520 Sirhan
02:07:52.900 killed
02:07:53.180 and
02:07:53.420 he's
02:07:53.640 the
02:07:53.760 greatest
02:07:54.280 coroner
02:07:55.580 in
02:07:55.960 history
02:07:56.800 he
02:07:58.920 said
02:08:00.520 every
02:08:00.960 one
02:08:01.180 of
02:08:01.260 those
02:08:01.440 shots
02:08:01.860 left
02:08:02.760 tattoo
02:08:03.680 on
02:08:04.820 my
02:08:04.980 dad
02:08:05.280 so
02:08:05.480 they
02:08:05.680 were
02:08:05.840 all
02:08:06.160 contact
02:08:06.540 shots
02:08:06.860 the
02:08:07.060 barrel
02:08:07.400 of
02:08:07.520 the
02:08:07.600 gun
02:08:07.780 was
02:08:07.940 actually
02:08:08.340 touching
02:08:08.820 my
02:08:09.080 father
02:08:09.520 when
02:08:11.000 the
02:08:11.320 killer
02:08:11.780 killed
02:08:12.380 him
02:08:12.540 and
02:08:12.880 so
02:08:13.300 what
02:08:13.860 clearly
02:08:14.300 happening
02:08:14.760 is
02:08:15.200 Sirhan
02:08:15.760 was
02:08:16.120 a
02:08:16.360 distractor
02:08:17.080 he
02:08:18.680 was
02:08:18.880 firing
02:08:19.300 the
02:08:19.540 shots
02:08:19.800 he
02:08:20.000 had
02:08:20.280 no
02:08:20.500 memory
02:08:20.820 of
02:08:21.040 it
02:08:21.540 virtually
02:08:22.760 everybody
02:08:23.300 who's
02:08:23.540 interviewed
02:08:23.820 him
02:08:24.060 believed
02:08:24.340 that
02:08:24.580 he
02:08:24.860 was
02:08:25.300 under
02:08:25.700 some
02:08:26.060 kind
02:08:26.360 of
02:08:26.500 hypnosis
02:08:27.080 he
02:08:28.760 fired
02:08:29.100 the
02:08:29.300 shots
02:08:29.780 and
02:08:30.360 while
02:08:30.840 people
02:08:31.120 were
02:08:31.280 looking
02:08:31.720 focused
02:08:32.160 on
02:08:32.400 him
02:08:32.680 another
02:08:34.380 person
02:08:35.000 fired
02:08:35.740 four
02:08:36.040 shots
02:08:36.300 from
02:08:36.480 behind
02:08:36.800 one
02:08:37.140 went
02:08:37.420 through
02:08:37.740 harmlessly
02:08:38.380 through
02:08:38.760 the
02:08:39.040 shoulder
02:08:39.700 pad
02:08:40.100 of
02:08:40.360 his
02:08:40.560 suit
02:08:40.820 and
02:08:41.040 the
02:08:41.220 two
02:08:41.620 went
02:08:41.840 to
02:08:41.980 his
02:08:42.120 back
02:08:42.400 and
02:08:42.700 one
02:08:42.720 went
02:08:43.180 into
02:08:43.340 his
02:08:43.600 head
02:08:43.880 and
02:08:44.800 in
02:08:44.900 every
02:08:45.220 case
02:08:45.660 the
02:08:45.900 gun
02:08:46.060 was
02:08:46.260 touching
02:08:46.540 him
02:08:46.700 now
02:08:46.920 the
02:08:47.920 person
02:08:49.500 who
02:08:49.760 almost
02:08:50.320 certainly
02:08:50.760 fired
02:08:51.180 those
02:08:51.440 shots
02:08:51.820 was
02:08:52.180 a man
02:08:52.500 called
02:08:52.760 Eugene
02:08:53.120 Cesar
02:08:53.840 who
02:08:55.620 was
02:08:56.000 a
02:08:56.540 he
02:08:57.340 worked
02:08:57.660 at
02:08:57.860 Lockheed
02:08:58.540 he
02:08:58.720 had
02:08:58.860 gotten
02:08:59.160 the
02:08:59.540 job
02:08:59.900 to be
02:09:02.180 a
02:09:02.340 security
02:09:02.640 guard
02:09:02.960 three
02:09:03.760 days
02:09:04.060 before
02:09:04.520 he
02:09:05.060 worked
02:09:05.400 at
02:09:05.560 Lockheed
02:09:06.380 as
02:09:07.080 a
02:09:07.700 high
02:09:08.160 security
02:09:08.600 job
02:09:09.080 he
02:09:09.520 was
02:09:09.840 as it
02:09:10.200 turns
02:09:10.440 out
02:09:10.740 a
02:09:10.940 CIA
02:09:11.320 agent
02:09:12.560 and
02:09:14.660 he
02:09:16.300 admitted
02:09:20.320 he
02:09:20.640 was
02:09:20.820 seeing
02:09:21.280 my
02:09:21.980 father
02:09:22.320 when he
02:09:22.720 fell
02:09:23.040 onto
02:09:23.980 Cesar
02:09:24.440 and
02:09:26.100 as
02:09:26.560 he
02:09:26.680 was
02:09:26.820 falling
02:09:27.120 he
02:09:27.320 turned
02:09:27.620 around
02:09:27.920 and he
02:09:28.200 tore
02:09:28.420 off
02:09:28.680 Cesar's
02:09:29.160 clip
02:09:29.380 on
02:09:29.640 tie
02:09:29.960 so
02:09:30.520 if
02:09:30.660 you
02:09:30.760 see
02:09:31.040 pictures
02:09:31.540 of
02:09:31.660 my
02:09:31.800 father
02:09:32.120 lying
02:09:32.460 on
02:09:32.600 the
02:09:32.720 ground
02:09:33.000 he
02:09:33.240 has
02:09:33.480 that
02:09:33.660 clip
02:09:33.880 on
02:09:34.080 tie
02:09:34.340 in
02:09:34.500 his
02:09:34.660 hand
02:09:34.980 and
02:09:36.920 Cesar
02:09:37.560 says
02:09:38.800 that
02:09:39.320 my
02:09:40.380 father
02:09:40.640 fell
02:09:40.960 on
02:09:41.240 him
02:09:41.460 he
02:09:41.840 drew
02:09:42.060 his
02:09:42.280 gun
02:09:42.640 he
02:09:43.840 said
02:09:44.080 he
02:09:44.200 drew
02:09:44.380 his
02:09:44.580 gun
02:09:44.860 when
02:09:45.280 he
02:09:46.600 saw
02:09:46.960 he
02:09:47.500 changed
02:09:47.920 the
02:09:48.100 story
02:09:48.300 many
02:09:48.620 times
02:09:49.000 about
02:09:49.240 when
02:09:49.460 he
02:09:49.580 drew
02:09:49.740 his
02:09:49.900 gun
02:09:50.100 but
02:09:50.320 when
02:09:50.580 he
02:09:50.780 stood
02:09:51.140 up
02:09:51.620 he
02:09:53.220 had
02:09:53.480 the
02:09:53.620 gun
02:09:53.820 out
02:09:54.220 the
02:09:54.880 police
02:09:55.220 never
02:09:55.540 questioned
02:09:56.000 him
02:09:56.280 at
02:09:56.440 that
02:09:56.640 time
02:09:56.900 and
02:09:57.020 they
02:09:57.140 never
02:09:57.360 took
02:09:57.600 his
02:09:57.760 gun
02:09:57.960 away
02:09:58.220 he
02:09:58.480 later
02:09:58.940 sold
02:10:01.020 the
02:10:01.180 gun
02:10:01.460 to
02:10:02.580 another
02:10:02.860 guy
02:10:03.380 at
02:10:03.540 Lockheed
02:10:04.180 and
02:10:04.500 that
02:10:04.660 gun
02:10:04.920 has
02:10:05.760 been
02:10:05.920 tracked
02:10:06.200 down
02:10:06.520 since
02:10:06.900 the
02:10:07.280 bullets
02:10:08.020 that
02:10:08.760 came
02:10:10.040 from
02:10:10.260 Sirhan's
02:10:10.880 gun
02:10:11.180 none
02:10:11.660 of them
02:10:11.960 matched
02:10:12.260 the
02:10:12.480 bullets
02:10:12.800 that
02:10:13.040 were
02:10:13.180 in
02:10:13.320 my
02:10:13.520 father
02:10:13.880 oh
02:10:15.300 you
02:10:15.660 know
02:10:15.820 it's
02:10:16.180 impossible
02:10:16.760 that
02:10:17.040 Sirhan
02:10:17.480 told
02:10:17.720 my
02:10:17.920 father
02:10:18.260 and
02:10:18.820 Eugene
02:10:21.140 Thames
02:10:21.540 Cesar
02:10:21.900 I was
02:10:22.400 in
02:10:22.580 negotiations
02:10:23.300 with
02:10:23.720 him
02:10:24.080 you
02:10:25.620 know
02:10:25.800 three
02:10:26.240 months
02:10:26.620 ago
02:10:26.960 to
02:10:27.240 go
02:10:27.400 over
02:10:27.600 to
02:10:27.680 the
02:10:27.780 Philippines
02:10:28.160 to
02:10:28.480 meet
02:10:28.700 with
02:10:28.900 him
02:10:29.040 but
02:10:29.180 he
02:10:29.300 wanted
02:10:29.540 to
02:10:29.740 charge
02:10:29.980 me
02:10:30.160 $20,000
02:10:30.940 for
02:10:32.020 that
02:10:32.400 interview
02:10:33.000 and
02:10:34.080 he
02:10:34.700 died
02:10:35.200 at
02:10:36.480 time
02:10:37.340 the
02:10:40.820 motivation
02:10:41.720 Robert
02:10:42.720 was the
02:10:43.140 motivation
02:10:43.600 you think
02:10:44.200 what I
02:10:45.340 hear is
02:10:45.700 the fact
02:10:46.060 that your
02:10:46.500 grandfather
02:10:47.060 was so
02:10:47.620 furious
02:10:47.920 what happened
02:10:48.380 to John
02:10:48.640 F.
02:10:48.860 Kennedy
02:10:49.040 he wanted
02:10:49.560 your father
02:10:50.220 to become
02:10:50.660 a president
02:10:51.120 so they
02:10:51.460 can investigate
02:10:52.100 the CIA
02:10:52.820 is there
02:10:53.780 any truth
02:10:54.360 behind that
02:10:54.980 because
02:10:55.900 that's
02:10:56.400 ridiculous
02:10:57.360 because
02:10:59.700 first of
02:11:02.260 all
02:11:02.620 my
02:11:03.060 grandfather
02:11:05.340 was
02:11:07.060 had a
02:11:09.880 stroke
02:11:10.460 in 1963
02:11:13.020 and he
02:11:15.760 was
02:11:16.040 essentially
02:11:16.680 non-communicative
02:11:18.120 so he
02:11:20.360 even when
02:11:22.320 my uncle
02:11:22.900 was killed
02:11:23.500 he was
02:11:24.160 my grandfather
02:11:24.980 was already
02:11:25.840 in a wheelchair
02:11:27.200 unable to speak
02:11:28.340 oh no
02:11:29.380 my father
02:11:30.740 you know
02:11:33.200 when he ran
02:11:33.840 for president
02:11:34.260 I'm sure
02:11:34.760 that
02:11:35.020 listen
02:11:35.940 my father
02:11:36.520 was
02:11:36.900 the best
02:11:39.200 investigator
02:11:39.940 of his age
02:11:41.600 he had brought
02:11:43.660 down the mafia
02:11:44.320 when he was
02:11:45.020 on the senate
02:11:45.740 he was the chief
02:11:46.420 counsel of the
02:11:47.040 senate rackets
02:11:47.600 committee
02:11:47.780 he was the
02:11:48.560 Robert Mueller
02:11:49.520 of his time
02:11:50.260 times ten
02:11:50.980 he had brought
02:11:52.900 down
02:11:53.400 you know
02:11:53.900 the
02:11:54.300 teamsters
02:11:55.680 union
02:11:56.080 and the
02:11:56.560 bakers union
02:11:57.180 and all
02:11:57.620 of these
02:11:57.960 for corruption
02:11:58.680 he had
02:11:59.460 you know
02:11:59.860 he was the
02:12:00.340 first person
02:12:00.980 to seriously
02:12:01.580 prosecute
02:12:02.300 the mafia
02:12:03.960 and then
02:12:04.660 he had become
02:12:05.300 the attorney
02:12:05.760 general
02:12:06.220 and he was
02:12:06.900 at that time
02:12:07.920 in a
02:12:08.660 day-to-day
02:12:09.360 battle
02:12:09.740 with the CIA
02:12:10.420 you can read
02:12:11.180 all about
02:12:11.600 this in my
02:12:12.120 book
02:12:12.380 American Values
02:12:13.220 because the
02:12:13.580 CIA
02:12:13.900 headquarters
02:12:15.800 in Langley
02:12:16.420 was only
02:12:17.180 a half a mile
02:12:17.880 from my house
02:12:18.620 and so
02:12:19.120 we had
02:12:19.920 all the
02:12:20.500 Cubans
02:12:21.040 in our
02:12:22.160 house
02:12:22.460 constantly
02:12:23.040 CIA agents
02:12:24.240 I grew up
02:12:25.860 surrounded by
02:12:26.560 KGB agents
02:12:27.600 CIA agents
02:12:28.600 Cubans
02:12:29.200 special forces
02:12:30.720 repelling off
02:12:31.540 the roof
02:12:31.840 of our house
02:12:32.360 and my
02:12:33.720 father would
02:12:34.340 stop at the
02:12:35.080 CIA
02:12:35.440 every morning
02:12:36.940 and they
02:12:37.280 hated him
02:12:37.820 there
02:12:38.120 on his way
02:12:39.780 to work
02:12:40.120 at the
02:12:40.340 Justice
02:12:40.600 Department
02:12:41.120 and you
02:12:41.860 know
02:12:41.940 the last
02:12:42.440 thing
02:12:42.700 I think
02:12:43.080 they probably
02:12:43.580 wanted
02:12:43.980 was for him
02:12:44.680 to be
02:12:44.900 President
02:12:45.160 of the
02:12:45.300 United
02:12:45.520 States
02:12:45.800 about
02:12:46.140 two weeks
02:12:48.100 before
02:12:48.580 he died
02:12:49.280 when he
02:12:50.280 realized
02:12:50.780 it became
02:12:51.720 clear that
02:12:52.140 he was
02:12:52.360 going to
02:12:52.580 win in
02:12:52.940 California
02:12:53.500 and if
02:12:54.780 he won
02:12:55.060 in California
02:12:55.680 he would
02:12:56.520 win
02:12:56.940 he had
02:12:58.280 a clear
02:12:58.620 view
02:12:58.920 he had
02:12:59.220 already
02:12:59.480 beaten
02:12:59.840 Humphrey
02:13:00.420 in 60
02:13:01.040 he ran
02:13:01.640 my uncle's
02:13:02.240 campaign
02:13:02.540 he had
02:13:02.860 already
02:13:03.040 beaten
02:13:03.320 Nixon
02:13:03.660 he knew
02:13:04.060 how to
02:13:04.280 beat
02:13:04.420 those
02:13:04.680 guys
02:13:04.980 and
02:13:05.140 those
02:13:05.320 would
02:13:05.400 be
02:13:05.540 the
02:13:05.580 only
02:13:05.780 two
02:13:06.020 guys
02:13:06.340 who
02:13:06.500 stood
02:13:06.700 in
02:13:06.980 the
02:13:07.400 lighthouse
02:13:07.680 oh
02:13:09.400 and
02:13:09.720 you know
02:13:10.260 the country
02:13:10.740 wanted him
02:13:11.300 he was
02:13:11.520 enormous
02:13:11.960 and popular
02:13:12.560 his brother
02:13:13.200 was a
02:13:13.780 martyr
02:13:14.200 and beloved
02:13:15.140 and you
02:13:16.040 know
02:13:16.240 he would
02:13:17.400 have won
02:13:17.760 he was
02:13:19.680 asked at
02:13:20.420 that point
02:13:21.060 he had been
02:13:21.680 asked many
02:13:22.300 times
02:13:22.900 what he thought
02:13:23.840 of the
02:13:24.060 Warren Commission
02:13:24.740 whether he
02:13:25.400 would reopen
02:13:25.940 it
02:13:26.220 and he
02:13:26.480 had always
02:13:27.020 dodged
02:13:27.620 the question
02:13:28.180 and although
02:13:29.880 he privately
02:13:30.900 believed
02:13:31.360 the CIA
02:13:32.080 had killed
02:13:32.880 his brother
02:13:33.380 he publicly
02:13:35.460 would never
02:13:36.040 say there was
02:13:36.680 anything wrong
02:13:37.320 with the
02:13:37.580 Warren Commission
02:13:38.200 but two weeks
02:13:39.360 before
02:13:39.900 he was
02:13:40.400 at
02:13:40.720 I think
02:13:41.240 Los Angeles
02:13:44.420 Community
02:13:44.940 College
02:13:45.460 there's a
02:13:47.120 tape of him
02:13:47.740 where a
02:13:48.480 student
02:13:48.880 asked him
02:13:49.740 if you're
02:13:50.700 elected
02:13:51.060 president
02:13:51.500 will you
02:13:52.080 reopen
02:13:52.580 the Warren
02:13:53.000 Commission
02:13:53.420 and there
02:13:54.080 was a
02:13:54.380 long
02:13:54.780 pause
02:13:55.360 and then
02:13:57.160 he quietly
02:13:57.720 says yes
02:13:58.560 and I
02:13:59.780 think that
02:14:00.380 would have
02:14:01.160 scared the
02:14:01.720 hell out
02:14:02.300 of a
02:14:03.340 lot of
02:14:03.600 people
02:14:03.880 wow
02:14:05.820 I wish
02:14:07.640 we had
02:14:07.880 another hour
02:14:08.300 together
02:14:08.740 but look
02:14:09.740 we're at
02:14:10.040 the end
02:14:10.300 of it
02:14:10.480 and I
02:14:10.700 appreciate
02:14:10.980 you sharing
02:14:11.420 with us
02:14:11.920 the tail
02:14:12.500 end of it
02:14:12.900 the last
02:14:13.540 part of
02:14:13.860 speed run
02:14:14.320 I'll give
02:14:14.680 you a name
02:14:15.120 just tell
02:14:15.480 me the
02:14:15.720 first thing
02:14:16.080 that comes
02:14:16.420 to your
02:14:16.680 mind
02:14:16.940 okay
02:14:18.000 Dr. Judy
02:14:20.060 Mikevitz
02:14:20.740 she's a
02:14:22.260 hero
02:14:22.540 hero
02:14:24.620 yeah
02:14:25.720 Bill Gates
02:14:26.580 I would
02:14:29.000 say the
02:14:29.560 word
02:14:29.800 dangerous
02:14:30.440 Anthony
02:14:31.860 Fauci
02:14:32.360 hubris
02:14:33.180 I would
02:14:33.540 say hubris
02:14:34.400 with Bill
02:14:35.260 Gates
02:14:35.680 Anthony
02:14:37.940 Fauci
02:14:38.580 is honest
02:14:40.920 Trump
02:14:42.260 I would
02:14:45.760 say
02:14:46.380 I don't
02:14:51.880 want to
02:14:52.140 say anything
02:14:52.680 I don't
02:14:53.340 want to
02:14:54.160 be political
02:14:54.780 Robert
02:14:56.200 De Niro
02:14:56.720 I love
02:14:59.420 Robert
02:14:59.740 De Niro
02:15:00.120 I do too
02:15:01.260 Lyndon
02:15:02.180 Johnson
02:15:02.700 you know
02:15:09.480 Lyndon
02:15:09.820 Johnson
02:15:10.280 was
02:15:10.960 I
02:15:15.080 liked
02:15:17.600 Johnson
02:15:18.160 okay
02:15:18.900 I didn't
02:15:19.360 like him
02:15:19.820 when
02:15:20.080 he was
02:15:20.840 was
02:15:21.960 Vietnam
02:15:22.840 he wrote
02:15:24.820 me a
02:15:25.080 very sweet
02:15:25.740 letter
02:15:26.020 when I
02:15:26.380 was a
02:15:26.720 kid
02:15:26.900 when I
02:15:27.200 injured
02:15:27.560 myself
02:15:28.160 and he
02:15:29.840 actually
02:15:30.260 people don't
02:15:30.780 know this
02:15:31.220 but he
02:15:31.520 was very
02:15:32.280 kind
02:15:33.220 to my
02:15:33.580 father
02:15:34.000 at a
02:15:34.440 time
02:15:34.660 when my
02:15:34.960 father
02:15:35.300 was
02:15:35.540 shattered
02:15:35.980 he
02:15:36.500 really
02:15:37.840 made
02:15:38.180 an effort
02:15:38.500 that he
02:15:38.860 didn't
02:15:39.060 need
02:15:39.300 to make
02:15:39.800 to get
02:15:40.580 my
02:15:40.780 father
02:15:41.140 re-involved
02:15:42.040 in public
02:15:42.840 life
02:15:43.200 but then
02:15:43.640 you know
02:15:43.940 he got
02:15:44.300 very jealous
02:15:44.980 and their
02:15:45.660 relationship
02:15:48.340 deteriorated
02:15:49.200 but I
02:15:49.540 think
02:15:49.860 he
02:15:51.120 from
02:15:51.440 the
02:15:52.380 he
02:15:52.900 had
02:15:53.280 a
02:15:54.280 kindness
02:15:54.700 to him
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02:15:57.220 time
02:15:57.700 for my
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02:15:58.540 J. Edgar
02:16:00.320 Hoover
02:16:00.660 he was
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02:16:11.620 a racist
02:16:12.380 terrible
02:16:14.580 terrible
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02:16:16.760 grows
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02:16:18.000 who
02:16:19.080 Tedros
02:16:20.380 he's
02:16:21.480 a
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02:16:21.840 criminal
02:16:22.140 that's
02:16:24.240 my
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02:16:24.780 Robert
02:16:25.620 thank you
02:16:26.440 for
02:16:26.860 agreeing
02:16:27.420 to do
02:16:27.880 this
02:16:28.100 long
02:16:28.460 form
02:16:28.780 interview
02:16:29.160 I
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02:16:31.760 on
02:16:32.080 many
02:16:32.400 different
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02:16:33.240 thank you
02:16:33.940 so much
02:16:34.220 for your
02:16:34.440 time
02:16:34.640 take care
02:16:35.060 bye
02:16:35.320 bye
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02:16:36.060 everybody
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02:17:00.240 everybody
02:17:00.580 bye
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