Valuetainment - July 06, 2020


Episode 485： 23 Lessons From The Last Dance - Michael Jordan’s Killer Instinct


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In this episode of Value Team, Patrick Bedevi shares 23 lessons he learned from the documentary, "The Last Dance: Michael Jordan's Killer Instinct" and why the argument of who's the greatest of all time is over.

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00:00:00.000 I'm Patrick Bedevi, your host of Value Team, and today I'm going to share with you my 23
00:00:25.400 lessons I learned from the documentary The Last Dance, Michael Jordan's Killer Instinct.
00:00:31.120 Point number one that I took away, if you're a LeBron James fan, or if the argument of who's
00:00:37.060 the greatest of all time, if there was ever a time that was the worst time for any anti-MJ
00:00:44.120 fans, I'm talking LeBron, any other type of player fans, if there was ever a time that
00:00:48.760 you didn't want The Last Dance to come out, it was this time.
00:00:51.420 Let me explain to you why.
00:00:52.220 It was almost as if it was perfect.
00:00:53.960 Wait, you got a pandemic happens, everybody's forced to stay home, there's no sports, no
00:00:59.220 football, no basketball, no MLB, the only sport conversation is The Last Dance, and it lasts
00:01:05.420 for five weeks.
00:01:06.780 All the LeBron James fans were sitting there watching, I'm a LeBron fan now because he's
00:01:10.980 a Laker himself, I'm a Laker fan, right?
00:01:13.500 If you don't think MJ's the GOAT, you're either delusional, you're a troll, you're in your 20s
00:01:20.120 or you're a teenager, or your team lost to him, or number five, you simply didn't watch
00:01:25.160 The Last Dance.
00:01:25.840 Because lesson number one is Michael is the greatest of all time.
00:01:30.080 No one comes close to him.
00:01:31.900 His DNA, killer instinct, what he did.
00:01:35.080 I was doing a math the other day.
00:01:36.260 If you look at the Pistons games they lost, they should have beaten Pistons in one of the
00:01:41.120 series, which they would have gone to the finals and won.
00:01:43.720 The game number seven that Pippen didn't come well, he was having anxiety attacks, panic
00:01:48.360 attacks.
00:01:48.760 If Pippen plays to his best, they, when they go to championships, that's two additional
00:01:52.800 championships.
00:01:53.880 If Mike doesn't retire, those two additional ones, they would have beaten the Rockets,
00:01:57.800 that two other right there.
00:01:59.500 And if they would have come back one more season, that would have been 11 championships.
00:02:04.780 He would have probably had 43,000 career points if he wouldn't have had any of those things
00:02:10.880 taking place and played a couple more seasons.
00:02:13.100 43,000 points, 42,000 points, all-time scorer, all-time everything.
00:02:17.180 That's Michael.
00:02:18.040 So my point number one is, the argument for who's the greatest of all time in the history
00:02:22.140 of NBA, the game of NBA, it's over with.
00:02:24.800 At least for 20 more years, the argument's over with.
00:02:27.560 That's my point number one.
00:02:28.940 Point number two, just as much as the argument was made that he's the greatest of all time,
00:02:34.040 Michael Jordan, here's the challenge why that's not going to last for a long time.
00:02:37.880 Why do you say that, Pat?
00:02:38.880 Here's why.
00:02:39.420 Forget about all the players that watched The Last Dance.
00:02:42.580 Oh my gosh, all the tweets.
00:02:43.800 Did you see Mike?
00:02:44.660 My favorite episode is number seven.
00:02:46.100 Oh, did you see one?
00:02:46.780 Oh, da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:02:47.940 Forget about all the players that are playing today.
00:02:50.240 Forget about them because the level of improvement in their game cannot be dramatic.
00:02:54.720 Here's what's scary about it.
00:02:57.540 Millions, millions of young kids, 8-year-old kid, 12-year-old kid, 11-year-old kid, watched
00:03:06.260 The Last Dance, these kids got a clinic on what it is to have a killer instinct for free.
00:03:14.600 They just watched these episodes on ESPN.
00:03:18.060 There are going to be thousands of kids that are outside in the backyard shooting basket with their mom screaming, 0.99
00:03:24.840 It's late, it's dark, get inside.
00:03:27.780 No, mom.
00:03:28.560 20 more shots.
00:03:29.780 Get inside right now.
00:03:31.220 20 more shots, mom. 0.76
00:03:32.740 Get inside.
00:03:34.480 Thousands.
00:03:35.580 Those are the kids I'm excited about.
00:03:37.060 The NBA is going to be so exciting 13, 14, 15 years from now.
00:03:42.120 Oh, my gosh.
00:03:43.500 I can't wait to see what the NBA is going to look like there.
00:03:45.920 You think Michael never had a last dance to watch?
00:03:50.320 Let me say this one more time.
00:03:51.760 Michael never had a last dance to watch.
00:03:54.900 Take the last dance.
00:03:56.820 Give it to a Michael who was a young kid.
00:03:59.120 Imagine who Michael would have been today.
00:04:00.860 The odds are the game, the sport of the NBA, the brand, the NBA, it just got better.
00:04:09.540 15 years from now, I just can't wait for a 2035 NBA draft pick.
00:04:14.060 I can't wait for that.
00:04:15.100 I can't wait for that day because it's going to be crazy.
00:04:18.760 Number three.
00:04:19.720 My favorite quote of all time is,
00:04:21.580 If a lion could speak, we could not understand them.
00:04:25.560 If there is a quote to describe Michael the best, it's this quote.
00:04:30.640 Why?
00:04:31.820 Everybody wants to criticize Michael.
00:04:34.300 Oh, he was a bully.
00:04:35.680 Oh, he was an asshole.
00:04:37.160 Oh, he was a jerk.
00:04:38.500 That's not the way.
00:04:39.400 Did you see the words he used?
00:04:40.880 Did you see what he said to Burrell?
00:04:42.640 Did you see how he punked this guy?
00:04:43.880 Did you see what he did to Kerr?
00:04:45.500 Oh, my gosh.
00:04:46.620 I can't believe what a bully he is.
00:04:48.940 You know, we're talking about here with Mario and Kai about if he was a bully.
00:04:52.100 Mario said he was a bully.
00:04:53.580 Kai said, I don't think he was a bully.
00:04:55.540 They were both right by the time it was over with.
00:04:57.820 Of course he's a bully.
00:04:59.640 Kai's point was,
00:05:00.640 he was not a bully because he didn't bully to belittle you without any outcome.
00:05:07.100 He bullied you to get the best out of you because if you could handle him, you could handle anybody.
00:05:12.120 The part when he fights Steve Kerr and Kerr punches him in the chest after he fouled him hard and then he punches him in the face, in the eye, right there.
00:05:21.680 He told Phil, you keep calling these ticky-tack fouls when I'm fouling them.
00:05:26.340 What are you going to do when this guy faces off in the Knicks?
00:05:28.580 How is he going to handle it?
00:05:29.620 That's Michael.
00:05:30.600 Michael is a lion and if you don't understand him, you are not a lion.
00:05:37.480 Point number four, every great organization has an asshole in it.
00:05:40.880 Now this asshole here was Jerry Krause.
00:05:44.340 Hated.
00:05:45.180 You know, just made fun of.
00:05:48.100 Hey, don't smoke cigars because it could stunt your growth.
00:05:51.180 Hey, you know, no wonder you're so sure.
00:05:54.200 All of these, Scotty, everybody that bullied Jerry.
00:05:58.740 Did you see how the end took place when Phil got up and they knew it was the last dance and still gave respect to the GM?
00:06:06.420 And even Scotty Pippen, who bullied him, said the following.
00:06:11.280 He says, can you imagine what it was like to be part of the greatest organization?
00:06:15.140 Scotty's words.
00:06:16.480 To play with the greatest player of all time, the greatest coach of all time.
00:06:21.260 And you know what else he said?
00:06:22.720 The greatest general manager of all time.
00:06:25.220 The guy he hated the most.
00:06:26.420 He brought Tex, Phil, got rid of Collins, Rodman, Horace, replaced Paxson, brought Kerr.
00:06:35.480 Are you kidding me?
00:06:36.960 Every great organization has an asshole like Jerry Krause, who's a great recruiter.
00:06:42.500 Point number five, MJ had a long F.U. list.
00:06:46.460 And by the way, he always found ways to add new names to the list.
00:06:51.100 George Carl, you come to the restaurant, I'm eating.
00:06:54.060 You see me, you walk out, you don't say bye to me, no problem.
00:06:59.060 Isaiah Thomas, we play against you, two years in a row, you punk us in the playoffs, you kick us out.
00:07:05.320 I still come and shake your hand.
00:07:06.780 We beat you the next year.
00:07:08.320 Lambier tells you don't shake hands and you walk out, no problem when it comes into the dream team.
00:07:13.280 LeBranford Smith, 37 points.
00:07:15.740 Hey, good game, Mike.
00:07:16.900 Whether he said it or not, no problem.
00:07:19.160 Media, Chicago media, they're going to go to Cleveland, they're not going to win.
00:07:23.640 No problem.
00:07:25.560 Magic, bird, it doesn't matter.
00:07:28.940 This man constantly added names to his list.
00:07:33.580 And it drove him.
00:07:35.580 Sometimes you may want to create your own F.U. list and help it drive you.
00:07:41.480 Point number six, don't chase money too early.
00:07:44.100 Let me say this one more time.
00:07:45.420 Don't chase money too early.
00:07:46.940 Michael was never the highest paid guy in the NBA until his last year with the Bulls when he got paid $33 million.
00:07:52.780 Never.
00:07:53.540 You know what Michael chased?
00:07:55.120 Michael chased greatness.
00:07:56.900 When he chased greatness, everything came to him.
00:08:01.180 Endorsements, money, opportunity, movies, everything.
00:08:05.840 Because he chased greatness more than he chased money.
00:08:09.600 You chase greatness, guaranteed money is coming early.
00:08:12.600 You over-negotiate your value in the marketplace prior to earning greatness, you're a short-term thinker.
00:08:21.380 Point seven, capitalism works.
00:08:23.580 When MJ first got in the league and he was getting a shoe deal, Converse was number one.
00:08:28.320 They had Magic, they had Bird.
00:08:29.900 When his team went to Converse, they said, we can't make him the face.
00:08:34.380 Why?
00:08:34.920 Because we have Magic and Bird.
00:08:36.120 You haven't earned the right yet.
00:08:37.220 He liked Adidas.
00:08:39.300 Adidas didn't have the money to pay him the quarter-million-dollar check.
00:08:42.140 Falk goes to Nike.
00:08:44.300 Michael wasn't a Nike fan.
00:08:46.540 Mom and dad call and say, go meet with Nike and just listen to them.
00:08:51.280 He goes and meets with them.
00:08:53.260 The company that wasn't first, wasn't second, it was third on the list, went and competed for Mike as a talent.
00:09:00.480 They got him.
00:09:01.820 What happened to Mike?
00:09:03.420 Greatest of all time.
00:09:04.900 What happened to Nike?
00:09:06.280 The best sporting shoe brand, athletic brand in the world.
00:09:11.200 Capitalism works.
00:09:12.860 Point number eight, leadership matters.
00:09:14.780 And you have to know who's going to get the best out of your people.
00:09:17.480 When Michael was playing for Doug Collins, there was a scene when Michael was playing and Doug, they asked him in the interview,
00:09:25.080 so Doug, what play did you call for Michael in timeout?
00:09:29.800 He said, I just told everybody, get the ball to Michael and get the hell out of his way.
00:09:33.560 Now, obviously, he dropped the F-bomb, but he says, get out of his way.
00:09:36.880 And oh, so funny.
00:09:41.260 Hilarious.
00:09:42.140 No problem.
00:09:43.620 Jerry Krause realizes you ain't going to win a championship running the ball through one person.
00:09:48.120 He brings a guy named Tex Winner.
00:09:49.800 Tex Winner brings his triangle offense.
00:09:52.060 He brings it to the team.
00:09:53.420 Doug Collins and Tex start having fights together to the point where Doug doesn't even let him sit on the bench.
00:09:59.140 He tells the guy, you don't need to be here.
00:10:01.240 Then Jerry goes, gets Phil, who was a coach in Puerto Rico, who was coaching a whole different league in Albany, New York.
00:10:08.820 Tough guy, former New York player, who won a couple championships in 1972, I believe.
00:10:13.860 He brings him on board as the assistant.
00:10:16.260 The assistant starts having more credibility than Doug.
00:10:19.900 They decided to get rid of Doug.
00:10:21.720 Jerry noticed Doug cannot get the best out of the team.
00:10:24.700 They bring Phil in.
00:10:25.800 Phil comes in.
00:10:27.140 Phil says, Mike, the ball's not going through you every single time.
00:10:30.060 Mike says, what are you talking about?
00:10:31.320 Mike loved Doug at that time because the ball always went through him.
00:10:34.380 Phil said, it's not going to go through you.
00:10:35.880 You can be the greatest scorer of all time and never win a championship, or you can be maybe top two, top three scorer and win championships.
00:10:43.940 Which one do you want?
00:10:44.760 Mike bought in to the stronger leader, Phil Jackson.
00:10:47.940 Listen, Phil came in.
00:10:49.480 Phil got the best out of Mike.
00:10:51.040 Mike trusted.
00:10:52.120 Game over.
00:10:53.280 Sometimes a better leader is going to get more out of your people.
00:10:57.560 Point number nine.
00:10:58.180 If you decide to be big in your industry, whatever you're doing, I want to be one of the best of all time.
00:11:01.900 I want to be big.
00:11:02.540 I want to be a millionaire.
00:11:03.120 I want to be a billionaire.
00:11:03.920 No problem.
00:11:05.060 In the road of going and becoming a millionaire, being successful, being the best in your industry, you're going to get the attention of the media.
00:11:11.340 Media loves stories like that.
00:11:13.260 You know why?
00:11:13.640 Because media looks at the great American success story and they say, there's got to be something.
00:11:18.300 Maybe this person's an alcoholic.
00:11:20.020 Maybe he's a druggie.
00:11:21.220 Maybe he's a cocaine.
00:11:22.100 Maybe he's a womanizer.
00:11:23.180 Maybe he's a gambler.
00:11:23.940 Maybe he's got some family issues.
00:11:25.500 Maybe he's a narcissistic.
00:11:28.440 They're going to come after you.
00:11:29.540 And you can either go head on with media or you can build a relationship with them.
00:11:35.300 Mike chose to develop a relationship with the media.
00:11:38.460 And he managed expectation and it ended up actually being a great relationship where the media loved him and he loved the media.
00:11:44.040 Point number ten.
00:11:44.820 There's a scene in one of the episodes where Reggie Miller from the Pacers is talking about what it was like to shoot Space Jam and they build a basketball court for him.
00:11:52.180 And Michael brought all the players.
00:11:53.840 And summertime everybody was playing against each other.
00:11:55.680 And he said, he would come, he would play with us for three hours.
00:11:59.100 After three hours he would go work out.
00:12:00.740 After work out he had, then he would do this.
00:12:03.000 Then he had a six o'clock.
00:12:04.380 Then he said, this guy was a vampire.
00:12:06.560 When did he ever sleep?
00:12:07.640 By the way, so many stories.
00:12:10.280 Michael played poker all night.
00:12:11.860 Michael did this all night.
00:12:13.040 Michael.
00:12:15.180 For a person like Michael to do what they do, they have a certain level of energy that's indescribable.
00:12:22.800 They don't need coffee.
00:12:24.080 They don't need all the other stuff.
00:12:26.100 Their determination is so flipping big and laser beam focused to make their vision a reality where they typically can go with less sleep than others do.
00:12:38.200 And some may call them vampire.
00:12:40.380 Point number eleven.
00:12:41.020 You're one new teammate, one new employee, one new player, one new client, one new salesperson.
00:12:47.180 One new person away from taking your company to a whole different level.
00:12:52.660 From taking your team to a whole different level.
00:12:54.280 One player changed a franchise from 4,000 people coming to the game to sellout since the day Michael got drafted.
00:13:04.440 The Bulls have been a sellout.
00:13:05.740 One guy comes to the city of Chicago, changes the game.
00:13:09.780 Economically.
00:13:10.840 Fame.
00:13:11.480 Party in nightlife.
00:13:12.760 Restaurants.
00:13:13.200 Party in every possible way.
00:13:16.160 Find that one person.
00:13:17.860 Change the life of your business forever to come.
00:13:21.060 Point number twelve.
00:13:21.860 There's a scene where he is doing the commercial with Spike Lee and Spike Lee says,
00:13:25.540 It's got to be the shoes.
00:13:27.020 No, it's not the shoes.
00:13:28.620 It's got to be this.
00:13:29.520 No, it's not.
00:13:30.500 It's got.
00:13:31.180 And finally Mike's like, look, here's what I was trying to say.
00:13:33.380 It's not the shoes.
00:13:34.320 It's not.
00:13:34.780 It's my work ethic.
00:13:36.060 He says, I guarantee you if I average two points a game, nobody would have paid me the
00:13:39.240 kind of money they paid me.
00:13:40.280 Nobody would have come to watch me.
00:13:41.840 Mike said this.
00:13:43.160 Mike said this.
00:13:43.740 By the way, you know the Big Baller brand?
00:13:47.580 Great idea.
00:13:48.940 But Zoe didn't show up.
00:13:50.940 If Zoe was Mike, let's take that same idea, Big Baller brand. 0.99
00:13:55.200 And let's make Zoe MJ. 0.97
00:13:57.820 Big Baller brand, but it's MJ who is Big Baller brand. 0.91
00:14:02.380 You know what would have happened to Big Baller brand?
00:14:04.300 It probably would have been a multi-billion dollar empire. 0.89
00:14:06.720 Because it's the player you bank on.
00:14:09.600 You might have a great idea.
00:14:11.060 It's the player you bank on.
00:14:12.660 Mike said, I work so hard to get good at my craft.
00:14:17.460 It ain't the shoes.
00:14:18.580 It's my work ethic and my game that got me to where I'm at today.
00:14:23.360 Point number thirteen.
00:14:24.040 Eventually, for an empire, for a company, for an organization to flourish, there's got
00:14:29.840 to be trust.
00:14:30.660 You have to trust the coach.
00:14:32.640 Mike finally trusted Phil.
00:14:35.020 And Mike learned the hard work.
00:14:36.800 He didn't trust any of his teammates.
00:14:38.380 He learned to trust Pippen.
00:14:40.100 He learned to trust BJ Armstrong.
00:14:42.340 He learned to trust Paxson.
00:14:44.060 He learned to trust Kukoc. 0.69
00:14:45.680 He learned to trust Steve Kerr.
00:14:47.600 And eventually he won six championships.
00:14:49.120 But winning at the highest level, trust is very critical.
00:14:54.340 Point number fourteen.
00:14:54.820 Sometimes to bring back a client, to bring back a recruit, to bring back a talent, to bring
00:15:00.800 back somebody that maybe stepped away or stepped away for a couple years or is retired or there
00:15:06.240 was a falling out.
00:15:07.400 Sometimes a person to do that isn't the number one person in the company or number two or number
00:15:11.560 three or number four or anything.
00:15:13.580 It's just somebody that the other guy had a relationship with.
00:15:16.500 And in this case, BJ Armstrong had a relationship with Michael.
00:15:20.440 And so when Michael was in Chicago and BJ said, hey man, let's play.
00:15:23.820 I don't think you can beat me one-on-one.
00:15:25.140 They play.
00:15:26.280 Michael trusted BJ.
00:15:28.060 BJ encouraged him to come back.
00:15:29.900 BJ indirectly recruited Michael back.
00:15:32.780 Just because Michael trusted BJ because BJ was harmless.
00:15:37.080 And the rest is history.
00:15:38.760 Point number fifteen.
00:15:39.560 Sometimes when you win at something, and I mean at the highest, highest level.
00:15:43.200 Everybody tells you how amazing you are.
00:15:45.380 You start believing you can be amazing at everything you do.
00:15:49.040 And it's just not true.
00:15:50.280 And it's very, very hard for hyper-competitive people.
00:15:54.500 Very.
00:15:55.100 Michael goes, does the basketball thing, becomes the greatest, goes, plays baseball, then leaves.
00:16:00.940 And I know some people said if he had 1,500 more at-bats, he would have ended up being
00:16:04.220 a baseball player professional.
00:16:06.060 But he would have never been the greatest baseball player of all time.
00:16:09.320 Although he became the greatest basketball player of all time.
00:16:11.440 But know your limits and be comfortable with what you can and cannot do.
00:16:18.000 I understand if he did the baseball thing to get it out of his system.
00:16:21.240 Fully get it.
00:16:22.340 Fully understand why that decision was made.
00:16:24.220 Father, all that stuff.
00:16:25.360 Fully get that part.
00:16:26.360 But you won't be great at everything, just because you were great at one thing.
00:16:32.580 Point number 16.
00:16:33.260 There's a scene where they're sitting there and says, well, that's what they did to Shaq.
00:16:36.300 And, you know, that's what's going on with Shaq.
00:16:38.100 And, you know, here's what, he says, I'm not Shaq.
00:16:40.060 And they say it again.
00:16:40.800 He says, I'm not Shaq.
00:16:41.860 They say it again.
00:16:42.500 He says, I'm not Shaq.
00:16:44.340 Now, what was he saying?
00:16:45.800 There's a lot of different ways you can interpret that.
00:16:47.500 Guys at that level hate to be compared.
00:16:53.660 I mean, hate to be compared to anybody.
00:16:57.600 Don't compare me to anybody.
00:16:59.440 I'm one of a kind.
00:17:00.740 Do not compare me to anybody.
00:17:02.640 Michael wanted to prove a point that don't ever compare anyone else to me.
00:17:08.700 I'm one of a kind.
00:17:09.880 If you think you're one of a kind, you can say, don't compare me to anybody.
00:17:13.900 But every time he was called and compared to somebody else, he went and proved everybody wrong that he's one of a kind.
00:17:20.360 If you don't want to be compared to anybody, go make the argument.
00:17:23.740 That part's on you.
00:17:25.040 Point number 17.
00:17:25.820 Look, just because you hate an opponent doesn't mean you can't respect them.
00:17:29.700 You know, when they asked him about Isaiah, you could tell he cannot stand Isaiah as a person.
00:17:35.120 You could tell.
00:17:35.900 I mean, it was oozing out of him how he can't stand Isaiah as a person.
00:17:40.400 But he said, to me, he is the second greatest point guard of all time behind Magic Johnson.
00:17:46.460 And that's a lot of respect because you're talking about Stockton.
00:17:49.580 You're talking about all these modern day point guards.
00:17:52.220 He put him second greatest of all time, Isaiah Thomas.
00:17:55.840 So just because you don't like an opponent doesn't mean you can't respect their game.
00:18:00.140 Point number 18.
00:18:00.760 You see, the more you compete in your field and you beat people, right?
00:18:04.240 Oh, you know, I'm beating people at YMCA.
00:18:06.200 I'm beating people at Venice Beach.
00:18:07.700 So real estate.
00:18:08.940 Oh, I'm beating people in my own office.
00:18:10.320 Oh, it's great.
00:18:11.060 Oh, I'm beating people in my region.
00:18:12.620 Oh, that's great.
00:18:13.640 And then when it gets to nationally, then you face real competitors.
00:18:18.480 Okay?
00:18:18.900 So you may be the alpha of your small little office.
00:18:23.040 You may be the alpha of your region.
00:18:25.700 But as it gets bigger, you realize who the real alpha is.
00:18:29.580 They're playing in the dream team.
00:18:30.740 They're playing that pickup game where Magic's talking trash.
00:18:34.360 Bird's on the sidelines.
00:18:35.860 They're going back and forth.
00:18:37.840 And Magic may have been a better trash talker.
00:18:40.060 Even Gary Payton may have been a better trash talker.
00:18:43.040 A lot of players may have been better trash talkers.
00:18:46.720 But eventually, nobody was a bigger alpha than Michael Jordan.
00:18:51.660 Not because he was a bigger alpha.
00:18:53.740 Because there's this misconception that alpha is about personality.
00:18:57.440 Alpha is not personality.
00:18:58.360 Alpha is results in the field you've chosen to compete in.
00:19:04.420 If you're an alpha, that means you beat all the other alphas.
00:19:09.200 And that's exactly what Michael did.
00:19:11.000 Once Michael beat all the other alphas, he didn't have to say nothing.
00:19:16.260 Magic came out and says, we just realized.
00:19:18.800 When Bird came up and says, listen, there's a new sheriff in town, Magic.
00:19:21.340 We just have to accept it.
00:19:22.420 This guy's just better than us.
00:19:23.680 And it was game over.
00:19:24.740 So don't bank your alpha thing on personality.
00:19:27.280 Bank it on your game.
00:19:28.360 Point number 19, don't be afraid of challenging your people.
00:19:30.680 And don't apologize for it.
00:19:31.660 You know, one of my favorite personalities in the history of football was Mike Ditka.
00:19:36.200 I love Ditka.
00:19:36.960 Here's a guy that ended up becoming, creating a new position, tight end.
00:19:39.920 Then he goes and becomes a player, you know, wins a championship.
00:19:43.380 Coaching wins a championship.
00:19:45.000 And then later on in life, when I interviewed him, he was apologetic about how hard he was with people.
00:19:49.740 How much he pushed them.
00:19:50.580 And it was almost like, well, maybe I shouldn't have done this.
00:19:52.860 I'm like, I didn't want to see that.
00:19:54.980 It was almost like, I wish I would have never done the interview.
00:19:57.640 Because I want to take that out of my mind.
00:19:59.400 What I liked about Mike Ditka in the interview saying, here's a quarter.
00:20:02.660 Go call someone who cares.
00:20:04.240 And it's like, you know what?
00:20:04.880 The way the guy was, it's just, if you ever want to watch highlights of Mike Ditka as a coach, go watch him.
00:20:10.020 The 84 Bears documentary, Mario, we watched that work.
00:20:12.680 We took like 50 people and we watched it at Oheka Castle in New York.
00:20:16.580 We rented out the entire property, 32 rooms.
00:20:18.900 And I had everybody watch that documentary.
00:20:20.940 Why?
00:20:22.360 Don't apologize for driving the hell out of your people. 0.85
00:20:26.080 But be aware to have a cushion above you.
00:20:29.380 What do I mean by this?
00:20:30.240 If you are the highest level of cushion, and you drive the hell out of everybody, and they can't go somewhere else, you're in trouble.
00:20:37.680 Meaning, let me explain.
00:20:39.360 Michael is driving everybody.
00:20:41.840 Burrell, Kerr, Pippen, Horace.
00:20:45.320 He's driving everybody.
00:20:47.020 That if he crosses the line, Phil will say, get out of the game.
00:20:51.000 Go home.
00:20:51.500 Which he told him, Phil told him.
00:20:52.940 And then Phil calls Jordan saying, call to Kerr and apologize.
00:20:55.920 Then Jordan called Kerr and apologized.
00:20:57.920 Because Kerr spoke to Phil and he was furious.
00:21:00.520 There's a cushion.
00:21:01.700 Drive, but make sure you're good with the person above you.
00:21:04.880 Because that cushion is needed for you to be able to drive harder.
00:21:07.680 I don't know if this part makes sense or not.
00:21:09.340 In some environments, it may not be possible.
00:21:12.140 But you've got to make sure you drive people to a level with having a cushion.
00:21:15.520 That people say things like, for instance, I drive my sons.
00:21:19.580 They go to the mob.
00:21:21.280 I can't believe how dad, dad is so, but he loves you.
00:21:25.420 No, he doesn't.
00:21:26.260 You know he loves you.
00:21:27.420 Yeah, he does.
00:21:28.260 So go back.
00:21:29.160 He wants the best.
00:21:30.520 You need that.
00:21:31.860 Don't apologize, but find a cushion.
00:21:34.500 With the cushion, you can drive even harder.
00:21:36.680 Without it, you can't.
00:21:37.980 Point number 20 is, sometimes you are not going to want to show up.
00:21:41.160 You're just not going to want to show up.
00:21:42.480 For valid reasons.
00:21:44.400 He's in Utah, Salt Lake City.
00:21:45.720 Tim Grover orders a pizza.
00:21:47.540 Michael eats it by himself.
00:21:48.540 Five people show up.
00:21:49.540 And they kind of worry.
00:21:50.240 Hey, Mike, I don't have a good feeling about this.
00:21:52.320 Tim is telling this to Mike, and Mike eats the pizza by himself.
00:21:55.340 2.30 in the morning, he calls Tim.
00:21:56.560 Tim comes up, throwing up all over the place.
00:21:59.200 Doctors, all this stuff, goes to the game.
00:22:01.740 Tim gave him great advice, saying, one of the things I'm telling you right now is, when
00:22:05.260 you're this sick, you've got to play the entire game.
00:22:08.020 You can't take a break, because your body, you've got to play the whole game.
00:22:11.260 Tim just posted something, I think yesterday.
00:22:13.020 He said, 44 minutes, 38 points.
00:22:15.640 That's what he posted about that game.
00:22:17.520 And Mike comes, scored 38 points, 44 minutes.
00:22:21.980 They win that game.
00:22:23.240 He fully didn't feel like playing.
00:22:25.080 And he had all the right reasons to not play.
00:22:27.580 Sometimes you've got to play and show up.
00:22:29.500 Even though you have valid reasons, valid reasons to not show up, you've still got to
00:22:35.640 show up.
00:22:36.360 21's a little painful, because I'm a big Scottie Pippen fan, but 21 to me is, sometimes when
00:22:41.900 you quit, some things will never leave you.
00:22:46.040 You can lose.
00:22:47.300 It's fine.
00:22:48.480 You'll be forgiven.
00:22:49.680 You can get knocked out.
00:22:51.320 No problem.
00:22:52.460 You'll be forgiven.
00:22:53.860 You can't quit.
00:22:55.380 You can't quit and show an example of uncoachability in a public scene.
00:23:05.120 That's going to stay with you for a long time.
00:23:07.080 When I saw that myself, I said, I hope they weren't going to go there, but they did.
00:23:10.860 And I know Scottie said, if I had to do it all over again, I would have done the same
00:23:14.140 thing again.
00:23:14.580 Of course you wouldn't have, because there are millions of decisions that people go through
00:23:19.340 that they would have done differently.
00:23:20.620 It just means you don't have wisdom to make the better decision.
00:23:24.140 And I'm a diehard Scottie fan.
00:23:26.020 I'm a Scottie fan myself.
00:23:28.080 I just think sometimes, when everything makes sense for you to quit, and certain decisions
00:23:35.980 are being made that's unfair, coach says, cool coach is going to take the last shot
00:23:40.620 instead of you, and Michael's not playing, and you're the number one player, your name
00:23:43.720 is Pippen, and you're offended by that, you can still be coachable after the game, privately
00:23:49.980 bring it up to your coach, not publicly.
00:23:52.080 It'll leave a mark on your reputation for a long time.
00:23:56.300 Point number 22 is what I call the flat carrier mentality, is Michael fought for Phil.
00:24:04.460 If Jerry brings Phil back, Michael comes back, right?
00:24:08.520 And he said that many times.
00:24:10.740 Michael defended Phil to the very end.
00:24:13.820 Very, very end.
00:24:15.420 Says a lot about his character.
00:24:16.760 Like, you know, it's crazy, even when I talked to Kobe, when I interviewed Kobe, and I said,
00:24:20.760 Kobe, what do you see about all this stuff people are saying about the Knicks, and what
00:24:24.200 Phil did as a general manager, and all, he's being trashed right now, the last two or three
00:24:27.500 years.
00:24:28.340 He says, listen, to me, Phil is like a father figure.
00:24:33.000 He's one of the greatest mentors I ever had in my life.
00:24:35.760 And you see how Mike talks about Phil.
00:24:39.180 When you find a Phil in your life, man, it's not easy to find a person like that.
00:24:44.160 Protect him, keep him, maintain the relationship.
00:24:47.800 Don't let anybody ever say anything to the Phil of your life.
00:24:52.380 Point number 23, this is the last one.
00:24:54.260 And partly, I love this, but I also don't.
00:24:57.120 And let me explain to you why.
00:24:58.600 When it ended, the last dance, episode number 10, where they say, Jerry comes out, the owner.
00:25:06.480 He says, well, yeah, you know, we would have offered Phil to come back, but Phil said he
00:25:10.680 thinks it's best to step away.
00:25:12.020 And because Phil didn't want to step on the toes of Jerry Krause, the owner said, no, Phil,
00:25:16.960 you ought to come back.
00:25:17.700 He's like, but Jerry wants to go a different direction.
00:25:20.400 And he's asking a question about Michael.
00:25:22.420 And so, Mike, what do you think about what Jerry said?
00:25:24.320 He says, since that day, 1998, we've never had a conversation about it.
00:25:27.720 Why didn't we come back?
00:25:29.340 Why didn't we come back?
00:25:30.380 Why don't we do this?
00:25:31.100 Why don't we go one more?
00:25:31.860 Why doesn't everybody take a one-year contract?
00:25:34.000 And he watches it and sees what is being said, by the way, just so you know.
00:25:38.880 He watches it and sees what's being said, and they had to cut it.
00:25:44.620 I don't know if you caught that.
00:25:45.780 He was speechless.
00:25:46.900 And I bet he said something, and then he told the camera guy, let me say a different thing
00:25:51.480 here to finish up my thoughts.
00:25:53.200 Because he was speechless.
00:25:54.860 22 years that's been on his mind, never been brought up and talked about.
00:25:57.980 Why don't we come back one more season?
00:25:59.800 Let's defend what's ours.
00:26:01.700 Somebody's got to dethrone us.
00:26:03.600 You can't go like this.
00:26:04.380 So the guy says, are you happy with the way your career ended, being at the top?
00:26:09.120 Everyone's expecting for him to say what?
00:26:10.880 The typical answer, which is yes, very happy.
00:26:15.340 He says, no, not at all.
00:26:18.580 He says, what if we go one more time?
00:26:20.420 What if we win seven?
00:26:22.320 What if we win seven?
00:26:23.360 Can you imagine?
00:26:24.680 This guy's in his mid-50s.
00:26:26.240 He has three kids that are older, two sons and a daughter, and he's got twins with his
00:26:32.800 new marriage.
00:26:33.420 I believe he's got twins with his new marriage.
00:26:35.340 He's worth a couple billion dollars.
00:26:37.480 He's at dinner and partied with any name in the world.
00:26:42.120 Any name in the world.
00:26:44.320 Presidents, billionaires, models, celebrities, ace, it doesn't matter.
00:26:49.740 He's experienced royalty at the highest, stayed at the best hotel rooms in the world.
00:26:56.640 50-some years old, and his stomach is still not full.
00:27:00.180 Man, that says a lot about this guy.
00:27:02.120 His stomach is still not full.
00:27:04.740 The average guy will be like, no, you know, sometimes you just have to kind of go and da-da-da-da.
00:27:08.980 No, no, no.
00:27:10.000 He says, no.
00:27:10.920 The guy still wants to do that.
00:27:12.420 I could add my seven.
00:27:14.220 I mean, if a lion could speak, you could not understand him.
00:27:19.400 One of a kind.
00:27:21.140 One of a kind type of a player.
00:27:23.080 One of a kind.
00:27:23.500 Listen, two times I cried as a kid, growing up.
00:27:25.820 When we came to the States.
00:27:28.000 One, and I told this to Magic.
00:27:29.840 One was when Magic came out and announced HIV positive.
00:27:33.820 Cry like a little baby.
00:27:35.020 Oh my gosh.
00:27:35.900 I was 12, 13 years old.
00:27:37.200 I mean, I was devastated when he came out and said that.
00:27:40.100 You know what the second time was?
00:27:41.260 When Michael retired the first time.
00:27:43.260 I was not cool with that.
00:27:46.360 Why?
00:27:46.720 Because, you know, when you love a game and you love to compete and you have a guy like him that's a once in a lifetime.
00:27:57.080 We may not see another Michael.
00:27:58.280 We may not see during my lifetime.
00:28:00.680 Michael's one of a kind.
00:28:01.800 When you get a person like that, that changes the game, you have to respect the game.
00:28:07.340 And when this man, after all these years, after all these accolades, after all the money, after everything he's experienced, he still says,
00:28:14.340 No, I'm not satisfied, that tells you, this is a dude, that even if he would have won a 7th, I guarantee you, if you reshoot him, let's just say they would have come back and won 7th, and they would have gone for 8th, he would have still said, I'm not satisfied.
00:28:29.460 I'm not satisfied.
00:28:30.880 Because it's not enough for a strange, weird, wired-looking guy like this.
00:28:36.680 This guy.
00:28:38.040 That's what you call a lion.
00:28:39.900 So my final thoughts on him for point number 23 is, no matter how much he won, he wanted more.
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