Valuetainment - Episode 490： Classified Alien Encounters Revealed By Traumatologist

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00:00:01.800 Did you ever think you would make it?

00:00:04.200 I feel I'm so close I could take sweet victory.

00:00:07.620 I know this life meant for me.

00:00:10.740 Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got Bet David?

00:00:14.580 Valuetainment, giving values contagious.

00:00:16.420 This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters.

00:00:19.160 How they run, homie?

00:00:20.140 Look what I become.

00:00:21.400 I'm the one.

00:00:22.400 I'm Patrick with you, host of Valuetainment.

00:00:23.920 Listen, with the recent release from Pentagon,

00:00:26.600 Department of Defense showing a video

00:00:28.180 that looks like a possible UFO.

00:00:30.140 I decided to reach out to Stephen Greer

00:00:31.800 to talk about his personal alien encounters

00:00:34.620 and what he thinks about actual aliens,

00:00:37.680 the existence of aliens.

00:00:39.080 That's a lot of weird questions.

00:00:40.340 I think you're going to enjoy this one.

00:00:41.560 Dr. Greer, thanks for being a guest on Valuetainment.

00:00:43.560 Love it.

00:00:44.100 Thank you very much for having me.

00:00:45.720 So you have an interesting background

00:00:47.720 because some talk about when you read your background,

00:00:51.020 you see a lot of UFO stuff,

00:00:52.920 but you don't read a lot about you being a doctor

00:00:57.320 in the emergency room, 80,000 patients.

00:00:59.780 Can you kind of give us what you do for a living

00:01:02.000 and what led you to want to study UFOs?

00:01:05.000 Well, yes.

00:01:05.960 I mean, I'm a medical doctor,

00:01:07.920 but when I was younger, I had a sighting of a UFO

00:01:11.780 and it coincided with my uncle

00:01:15.160 designing what's called the lunar module,

00:01:18.500 which is the thing that put the first man on the moon.

00:01:22.440 Grumman, which is now Northrop Grumman,

00:01:24.100 had the contract to design the machine

00:01:26.660 that landed with Neil Armstrong.

00:01:28.660 So I had an interest in space

00:01:30.500 and then I had a sighting,

00:01:32.860 not unlike what the Pentagon recently released,

00:01:36.020 where I grew up in North Carolina.

00:01:38.400 And of course, I knew immediately what I had seen

00:01:40.660 was a very unusual object.

00:01:42.840 So it ignited a lifelong interest in this

00:01:45.600 and a whole lot of things evolved over time.

00:01:48.260 My uncle retired

00:01:49.080 and over a period of a few years in the 90s,

00:01:53.660 I began to do further research

00:01:56.720 and start an organization to go out

00:01:58.640 and do reconnaissance of these UFOs

00:02:01.680 and set up a set of protocols

00:02:03.500 to make some kind of interactive contact with them.

00:02:07.240 And we did.

00:02:08.340 And that was in 1992.

00:02:11.300 That got on the radar scope

00:02:12.860 of the intelligence community.

00:02:14.980 The head of army intelligence approached me

00:02:17.040 and basically said,

00:02:17.900 what the hell do you think you're doing?

00:02:20.140 Basically, we had cracked the Rosetta Stone

00:02:22.520 for communicating with these objects

00:02:24.780 and their occupants.

00:02:26.760 And it ended up on the front page

00:02:28.440 of the Pensacola paper

00:02:29.540 in March of 1992.

00:02:31.940 And that kind of hit some red line buttons

00:02:34.700 at the Pentagon and CIA.

00:02:37.000 So I got contacted by those folks.

00:02:39.980 Some of them were friendly

00:02:41.100 to what we were trying to do.

00:02:42.240 Some were hostile.

00:02:43.720 But the ones who were friendly

00:02:45.120 helped me build a network

00:02:46.400 that now is around 980

00:02:48.420 military, corporate, aerospace mainly,

00:02:53.340 and intelligence officials

00:02:54.880 who have information about these projects.

00:02:57.620 And that led to me in 1993

00:03:00.300 briefing Bill Clinton's CIA director,

00:03:03.560 R. James Woolsey,

00:03:04.980 and a few other people,

00:03:06.400 Senate Intelligence Committee members.

00:03:08.140 And I was doing this as a doctor,

00:03:09.820 sort of shuttling up from North Carolina,

00:03:12.060 where I was chairman of emergency medicine

00:03:13.880 at the hospital up to D.C.

00:03:16.800 So it sort of got organically,

00:03:19.740 sort of overtook my medical career,

00:03:21.920 but over a number of years.

00:03:23.860 So I'm retired from emergency medicine now.

00:03:26.740 I'm not in the ER.

00:03:27.840 I'm working now to try to bring this information

00:03:30.380 and more equally importantly,

00:03:32.940 the technologies that are behind these spacecraft

00:03:36.540 and things that are being reported on CNN now,

00:03:40.160 because what the public isn't being told

00:03:42.140 is that we have, in fact,

00:03:43.700 figured out how those objects operate.

00:03:47.160 And that would give us an entirely new

00:03:50.640 and advanced civilization

00:03:51.720 where we would not need fossil fuels,

00:03:54.300 oil or gas or coal or nuclear power.

00:03:56.880 So it's a very big story.

00:03:58.940 Most people think the secrecy around this

00:04:00.960 is because the government

00:04:02.860 has just been incompetent.

00:04:04.060 That's not true.

00:04:05.460 That narrative is a false narrative.

00:04:07.840 The true narrative is that,

00:04:09.620 I will quote from a top secret memo

00:04:12.460 released during the past few decades,

00:04:16.520 but it was dated 1951.

00:04:18.940 And it stated that the subject

00:04:20.480 was the most classified matter

00:04:22.720 in the U.S. government

00:04:23.980 exceeding the classification

00:04:26.300 of the development of the hydrogen bomb.

00:04:29.140 I'm quoting.

00:04:30.260 So that document, by the way,

00:04:32.340 it's up on our website,

00:04:34.260 SiriusDisclosure.com,

00:04:35.840 S-I-R-I-U-S Disclosure.com.

00:04:38.160 So that this entire investigation

00:04:40.640 that I started sort of as a interest

00:04:43.080 when I was a young doctor

00:04:44.620 eventually overtook my medical career.

00:04:47.500 And now I'm sort of working full time

00:04:51.100 trying to get this information

00:04:52.280 out to the public

00:04:53.100 because it's very critical.

00:04:54.280 In order for our civilization

00:04:56.220 to move forward significantly,

00:04:58.080 we're going to have to have something better

00:04:59.940 than solar panels and windmills.

00:05:02.120 And the good news is we have it.

00:05:05.480 The bad news is there are sociopaths

00:05:08.900 who are in super secret projects

00:05:11.360 that don't want us to have it.

00:05:13.640 And our civilization has been greatly harmed,

00:05:16.540 not to mention our environment and biosphere.

00:05:19.080 So a lot of people think this is about aliens.

00:05:21.800 I said, no, it's not about ETs.

00:05:23.760 It's about humans

00:05:25.360 and how are humans going to get out

00:05:26.940 of the conundrum we're in,

00:05:28.580 which is a very serious problem,

00:05:30.020 and move forward as a civilization

00:05:32.980 instead of sliding backwards.

00:05:34.720 So going back to,

00:05:35.780 you said a lot of different things.

00:05:36.740 I just want to kind of make it clear

00:05:38.240 what it means.

00:05:38.700 You said 980 military intelligent officials

00:05:41.440 that give you information,

00:05:43.060 aka whistleblower, right?

00:05:44.560 Is that a fair assessment to say?

00:05:45.920 Yes, and documents, for example,

00:05:47.740 a lot of top secret documents.

00:05:50.760 In 1998, my group,

00:05:53.520 working with constitutional attorney,

00:05:55.620 Daniel Sheehan,

00:05:56.980 that's in our new documentary,

00:05:58.380 Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind,

00:06:00.700 which is up on all the platforms now.

00:06:03.160 He and I looked at this issue,

00:06:06.200 and if you have a minute to hear me out,

00:06:08.980 what happened,

00:06:10.400 I don't know if you can imagine

00:06:11.540 the strange predicament a doctor is in

00:06:13.740 whose, of course, uncle

00:06:15.280 was one of the pioneers in aerospace

00:06:17.400 with Northrop Grumman

00:06:19.040 working on the Apollo mission,

00:06:21.540 to be asked to come up to Washington,

00:06:23.720 to brief the sitting CIA director

00:06:26.520 as a civilian on a subject

00:06:29.720 because the president and he

00:06:31.420 were being denied access.

00:06:33.560 Now, let me repeat this.

00:06:34.980 The president of the United States

00:06:36.500 and the director of the CIA

00:06:37.880 were being denied.

00:06:39.280 Now, I have a FedEx letter

00:06:41.000 from the person setting up this meeting

00:06:43.480 between me and the CIA director,

00:06:45.260 Woolsey,

00:06:46.000 that states that they had inquired

00:06:48.140 about this subject,

00:06:48.960 they knew there were programs going on,

00:06:51.320 highly classified,

00:06:52.840 and they were denied access to it.

00:06:55.280 I didn't believe that could be true.

00:06:57.360 I thought this is a bad John LeCart novel.

00:07:00.280 And when I got up to D.C.

00:07:02.400 and met with the director of the CIA,

00:07:05.300 I realized nobody was joking

00:07:08.080 that this is absolutely true.

00:07:10.240 And that's when I realized,

00:07:11.580 in December 1993,

00:07:12.780 that our country,

00:07:14.940 the Constitution,

00:07:16.580 the rule of law

00:07:18.200 had completely run off the rails,

00:07:20.180 at least in this specific area.

00:07:22.440 And it was pretty much

00:07:23.400 what Eisenhower,

00:07:24.300 if you looked at last speech

00:07:25.380 Eisenhower made

00:07:26.140 when he left office,

00:07:27.320 when he said,

00:07:28.100 beware the military-industrial complex

00:07:30.460 because it will become a threat

00:07:32.360 if we're not careful

00:07:33.700 to our democracy

00:07:34.680 and our way of life.

00:07:36.160 That was his farewell speech.

00:07:37.680 And this is a five-star general,

00:07:39.340 World War II hero, of course,

00:07:40.760 and a Republican.

00:07:43.560 And no one really understood

00:07:45.160 why he made that

00:07:46.360 as his last speech.

00:07:48.060 Well, it turns out

00:07:48.960 one of his military guys

00:07:51.060 who worked with him

00:07:51.960 the last couple years

00:07:53.000 of his administration

00:07:54.060 was an old guy

00:07:55.700 that I got to know

00:07:57.580 and was one of our

00:07:58.340 disclosure project whistleblowers

00:08:00.560 said, oh yeah,

00:08:01.360 I was at the White House

00:08:02.340 and Eisenhower

00:08:03.640 had been pushed aside

00:08:05.160 and had lost control

00:08:06.480 of those projects.

00:08:08.300 So I think this is the part

00:08:11.300 of the story

00:08:12.240 that people have a hard time

00:08:13.700 in a sense

00:08:14.720 getting their minds around

00:08:15.720 because we all grew up

00:08:16.700 with our history lessons

00:08:18.300 and our civics lessons

00:08:20.860 and the president

00:08:22.220 is the commander-in-chief

00:08:23.460 and blah, blah, blah.

00:08:24.860 In reality,

00:08:26.500 the emperor has no clothes

00:08:27.800 and there are classified projects

00:08:31.400 that go on,

00:08:33.440 unfortunately,

00:08:34.360 that are not supervised

00:08:35.500 by the president

00:08:36.380 or the Congress.

00:08:37.300 So that led me

00:08:39.060 with Daniel Sheehan

00:08:40.460 to conclude

00:08:41.220 that these projects

00:08:42.500 were illegal.

00:08:44.180 A priori,

00:08:45.300 they cannot claim

00:08:46.960 the rule of law

00:08:48.220 to suppress testimony

00:08:49.640 and disclosure

00:08:50.400 of the subject.

00:08:51.520 So we concluded

00:08:52.880 that we could go forward

00:08:54.120 with top secret documents

00:08:55.660 and witness testimony

00:08:57.240 and put it out

00:08:58.160 to the public

00:08:58.780 and that's what

00:09:00.420 we have been doing.

00:09:01.940 That's one part

00:09:02.980 of the story.

00:09:03.940 The more interesting

00:09:04.720 part of the story

00:09:05.560 actually isn't

00:09:06.600 the governmental part.

00:09:08.220 It's the fact

00:09:09.620 that our team

00:09:11.440 in the 90s

00:09:12.600 and up till now

00:09:13.400 had developed protocols

00:09:14.640 where we could

00:09:16.100 interact with

00:09:17.340 these civilizations

00:09:18.220 and vector them

00:09:20.300 into a site

00:09:21.100 like you would vector

00:09:21.980 a jet into JFK Airport.

00:09:24.480 And the movie

00:09:25.600 Close Encounters

00:09:26.340 of the Fifth Kind

00:09:27.300 is sort of a two-hour

00:09:28.360 tour

00:09:28.980 through what we've been doing

00:09:31.480 and what the results

00:09:32.580 have been.

00:09:33.000 And for people

00:09:34.160 who see it,

00:09:34.660 it's sort of shocking

00:09:35.460 when they realize this.

00:09:38.300 And what I tell people

00:09:40.240 is that when you're

00:09:41.940 dealing with civilizations

00:09:43.020 and actually

00:09:44.040 the CIA director's wife,

00:09:45.460 who at the time

00:09:46.040 was the chief operating

00:09:47.020 officer of the National

00:09:48.580 Academy of Sciences,

00:09:50.260 said to me

00:09:52.460 during our two-

00:09:53.580 or three-hour meeting

00:09:54.420 with the CIA director,

00:09:55.940 she turned to me,

00:09:56.540 she said,

00:09:56.960 how are these civilizations

00:09:58.560 communicating

00:10:00.000 across the vastness

00:10:01.600 of interstellar space?

00:10:03.500 Because the speed

00:10:04.300 of light is too slow.

00:10:06.380 And for people

00:10:06.980 who aren't scientists

00:10:07.660 on your viewership,

00:10:09.300 let me explain.

00:10:11.120 At the speed of light,

00:10:12.920 to go 1% of the way

00:10:14.720 across our own galaxy,

00:10:16.240 the Milky Way,

00:10:17.560 would take,

00:10:18.760 which is 1,000 light years,

00:10:20.800 which is the distance

00:10:21.780 light goes at 186,000 miles

00:10:25.040 every second for a year.

00:10:27.560 That's one light year.

00:10:28.760 1,000 light years

00:10:29.860 is 1% of the way

00:10:31.260 across our galaxy,

00:10:32.780 which is one galaxy

00:10:33.800 amongst trillions.

00:10:35.420 But at the speed of light,

00:10:37.480 for you to even communicate

00:10:38.640 and say,

00:10:39.060 hey, how are you doing?

00:10:40.380 And to answer back,

00:10:41.940 that would be the time

00:10:42.820 since the birth of Christ,

00:10:44.000 2,000 years,

00:10:45.040 for that transmission

00:10:46.080 to happen with what you

00:10:47.260 and I are using right now

00:10:48.580 on electromagnetic signals.

00:10:51.240 So we knew as scientists

00:10:53.520 that there had to be

00:10:56.600 something else

00:10:57.560 that these civilizations

00:10:59.020 were using.

00:11:00.420 And what we discovered

00:11:01.400 was that they have

00:11:02.480 very sophisticated electronics.

00:11:05.940 And this is, of course,

00:11:06.660 what Elon Musk

00:11:07.560 at Neuralink,

00:11:09.700 he has a company

00:11:10.360 called Neuralink,

00:11:11.060 is working on,

00:11:12.500 that interface

00:11:13.240 with directed thought.

00:11:15.560 Now, this is probably

00:11:16.260 where I've lost

00:11:16.760 half your audience.

00:11:17.840 And they're going,

00:11:18.260 what?

00:11:19.580 And the reality is

00:11:20.780 there's an area

00:11:21.660 of what's called

00:11:22.300 the science of consciousness,

00:11:24.440 field consciousness,

00:11:25.260 where at Princeton

00:11:27.020 with Dr. John,

00:11:28.660 who is an engineering professor,

00:11:30.880 discovered that

00:11:31.780 he could set up

00:11:32.700 a technology,

00:11:33.720 a random number generator

00:11:34.940 that spits out

00:11:36.220 random zeros and ones

00:11:37.840 and put someone in a room

00:11:39.420 and have that person

00:11:40.680 intend through their thought,

00:11:43.020 not touching it,

00:11:44.100 no wires,

00:11:45.020 for the random number generator

00:11:46.620 to spit out

00:11:47.340 more ones than zeros.

00:11:48.580 And it would.

00:11:49.920 And it did it consistently.

00:11:50.900 And so he began

00:11:53.140 to ask the question,

00:11:54.480 how can the consciousness

00:11:57.540 field and thought

00:11:58.600 affect a quantum

00:12:00.720 random number generator,

00:12:02.780 which is what he was using?

00:12:04.360 And so that unleashed

00:12:06.580 an entire area of physics,

00:12:08.200 which people think

00:12:09.060 sounds very obtuse

00:12:11.440 and sort of mystical,

00:12:14.660 but it isn't.

00:12:16.160 And what we had discovered

00:12:18.380 when I was younger

00:12:19.360 is that, in fact,

00:12:20.920 these civilizations

00:12:21.980 that are from various

00:12:22.960 star systems

00:12:23.760 have technologies

00:12:25.800 that Elon Musk

00:12:27.640 could only dream about.

00:12:29.120 In other words,

00:12:29.760 they very accurately

00:12:30.940 transmit

00:12:32.120 and send

00:12:33.540 and receive

00:12:34.540 directed

00:12:35.780 quanta

00:12:36.620 of thought

00:12:37.640 instead of an

00:12:38.480 electromagnetic signal

00:12:39.620 per se

00:12:40.160 through

00:12:41.120 what's called

00:12:42.000 field consciousness.

00:12:43.720 And conscious,

00:12:44.360 the consciousness field

00:12:45.580 is,

00:12:47.520 I mean,

00:12:47.680 it sounds very

00:12:48.200 Buddhist or Vedic,

00:12:49.580 but the consciousness field

00:12:51.040 is actually

00:12:51.920 not bound

00:12:53.200 by space-time,

00:12:55.080 space or time.

00:12:56.580 And because of that,

00:12:58.340 there's no

00:12:59.080 limit on the speed of it.

00:13:01.240 It's instantaneous

00:13:02.160 because of what's called

00:13:04.040 non-locality

00:13:05.060 in physics.

00:13:05.640 It's a bit

00:13:06.380 obtuse

00:13:07.460 and technical

00:13:09.300 to get into

00:13:09.900 probably here,

00:13:10.500 but what non-locality

00:13:12.220 means is that

00:13:13.180 it's not

00:13:14.120 based in the speed,

00:13:15.840 the linear speed

00:13:16.740 of light

00:13:17.280 or the linear speed

00:13:19.280 of sound

00:13:19.760 or what have you.

00:13:20.660 It's instantaneous

00:13:21.700 because of the nature

00:13:23.820 of conscious

00:13:24.820 field,

00:13:26.280 the field

00:13:26.960 of consciousness.

00:13:28.240 And this is,

00:13:29.560 to me,

00:13:30.060 the most interesting

00:13:31.040 stuff

00:13:31.560 because this whole

00:13:33.480 science of consciousness

00:13:34.440 is actually

00:13:35.100 the big science

00:13:36.020 for the next

00:13:36.520 1,000 years,

00:13:38.120 but we have to

00:13:38.900 catch up

00:13:39.380 to the last

00:13:40.080 70 to 100 years

00:13:41.620 of energy

00:13:42.880 and propulsion

00:13:43.660 technologies

00:13:44.380 that have been

00:13:44.820 hidden away

00:13:45.500 so we don't

00:13:46.660 destroy the biosphere.

00:13:48.740 But this is

00:13:49.700 what really led me

00:13:51.160 to leave my medical

00:13:52.280 career a few years ago

00:13:53.420 and say,

00:13:54.260 you know what,

00:13:55.180 this has got to

00:13:56.160 get addressed

00:13:56.680 in some sort

00:13:57.340 of a credible way.

00:13:58.920 So we started

00:13:59.600 this research project

00:14:00.800 to do that.

00:14:01.920 And

00:14:02.020 A Close Encounter

00:14:03.460 of the Fifth Kind,

00:14:04.420 this documentary,

00:14:05.660 what that is,

00:14:07.040 is when humans

00:14:08.500 initiate

00:14:09.220 the contact

00:14:09.880 with these

00:14:10.740 civilizations

00:14:11.280 and they respond.

00:14:13.160 That's what a

00:14:13.580 CE5 shorthand

00:14:15.340 is.

00:14:16.540 And so we've

00:14:17.160 also developed

00:14:17.900 an app,

00:14:18.420 it's called

00:14:18.840 the CE5

00:14:19.620 Contact App,

00:14:20.920 it's on all

00:14:21.240 the stores,

00:14:22.080 you know,

00:14:22.380 Google and

00:14:22.900 iTunes,

00:14:23.940 so that people

00:14:25.300 can learn

00:14:26.760 how to do

00:14:27.600 the techniques

00:14:29.340 to do this.

00:14:30.460 And now we have

00:14:31.160 100,000 people

00:14:32.340 around doing it,

00:14:33.140 having all these

00:14:33.720 amazing experiences

00:14:35.320 with these objects

00:14:36.180 going up.

00:14:37.200 Can we get a little

00:14:37.740 bit more deeper

00:14:38.200 into this?

00:14:38.580 Because here's

00:14:39.020 what I want,

00:14:39.320 I want the audience

00:14:40.660 that's watching this

00:14:41.580 that doesn't speak

00:14:42.600 your language.

00:14:43.140 So assume

00:14:43.940 none of us

00:14:44.560 are physicists,

00:14:45.360 none of us

00:14:45.660 are doctors,

00:14:46.700 we're regular

00:14:47.260 people that run

00:14:48.020 businesses,

00:14:48.680 companies,

00:14:49.160 investors,

00:14:49.800 founders,

00:14:50.640 we're trying to

00:14:51.060 get smarter,

00:14:51.700 so when you use

00:14:52.220 the bigger words,

00:14:52.960 you lose us

00:14:53.460 immediately.

00:14:54.640 But I learned

00:14:55.340 when you're saying

00:14:55.860 186 miles a

00:14:57.440 second for one

00:14:58.320 year is a light

00:14:58.940 year,

00:14:59.060 I didn't know

00:14:59.400 that before,

00:14:59.880 so I feel smarter

00:15:00.560 just hearing that

00:15:01.160 fact from you.

00:15:02.220 Let's go back

00:15:02.820 to the basics.

00:15:03.380 Let's go back

00:15:03.940 to the basics.

00:15:04.500 Sure.

00:15:05.100 You said something

00:15:05.900 very interesting

00:15:06.680 to go back to.

00:15:07.720 You said that

00:15:09.360 when Eisenhower

00:15:10.700 gave this speech

00:15:11.740 and you're talking

00:15:12.940 about a five-star

00:15:13.680 general in the past

00:15:14.820 or even the

00:15:15.920 Clinton situation

00:15:17.100 or even some

00:15:17.780 other presidents,

00:15:18.880 are you saying

00:15:19.560 some of these

00:15:20.140 projects that

00:15:20.800 they're working

00:15:21.280 on with UFOs

00:15:22.500 are unidentified,

00:15:23.840 you know,

00:15:24.360 let's just talk

00:15:25.220 about UFOs first

00:15:26.120 and aliens,

00:15:27.160 are you talking

00:15:27.800 about this is a

00:15:28.680 project that's

00:15:29.440 even bigger than

00:15:30.520 a president

00:15:31.640 of the United

00:15:32.200 States,

00:15:32.880 meaning it's not

00:15:33.540 even at that

00:15:34.100 level,

00:15:34.400 that some of

00:15:34.860 the stuff

00:15:35.140 they're not

00:15:35.460 even going to

00:15:35.820 know.

00:15:36.600 It's classified

00:15:37.460 beyond the

00:15:38.400 normal briefing

00:15:39.540 for the president,

00:15:40.880 yes.

00:15:41.820 And what does

00:15:43.020 that mean?

00:15:43.560 So you know

00:15:44.020 when Obama

00:15:45.900 became a

00:15:46.420 president first

00:15:47.200 and he went

00:15:47.760 on Jimmy

00:15:48.380 Kimmel and

00:15:49.620 he sat there

00:15:50.240 and they asked

00:15:50.660 him a question

00:15:51.240 and, you know,

00:15:52.380 Jimmy says,

00:15:52.860 look, if I was

00:15:53.400 a president first,

00:15:54.100 the first thing

00:15:54.480 I would do is,

00:15:55.020 okay, I'm

00:15:55.260 president, I'm

00:15:55.820 going to go

00:15:56.060 get checked

00:15:56.500 out to see

00:15:57.000 if there's

00:15:57.680 really aliens

00:15:58.340 and then Obama

00:15:59.160 says that's why

00:15:59.740 you're not a

00:16:00.380 president,

00:16:01.000 you know,

00:16:01.260 because,

00:16:02.180 and he says,

00:16:02.600 yeah, but tell

00:16:03.160 me, do aliens

00:16:03.960 exist?

00:16:05.020 And then,

00:16:05.380 because Bill

00:16:05.960 Clinton said

00:16:06.600 no, and then

00:16:07.740 Obama said,

00:16:08.440 well, that's

00:16:08.740 what we're

00:16:08.980 supposed to

00:16:09.600 tell you,

00:16:10.120 that's what

00:16:10.400 we're told

00:16:10.780 to tell you.

00:16:11.780 And then

00:16:12.000 recently they

00:16:12.660 asked Trump,

00:16:13.360 I think Tucker

00:16:13.880 Carlson asked

00:16:14.540 Trump about

00:16:16.360 the presidents,

00:16:17.740 I'm sure you

00:16:18.180 saw that,

00:16:19.080 when Tucker

00:16:19.540 asked Trump,

00:16:20.220 hey, so what

00:16:20.600 do you think

00:16:20.980 about UFOs?

00:16:22.200 And he says,

00:16:22.800 I'm not a

00:16:23.320 believer, but

00:16:23.840 anything is

00:16:24.500 possible.

00:16:25.420 He said that

00:16:26.240 on the

00:16:28.280 interview with

00:16:28.720 Tucker Carlson.

00:16:29.380 Are these,

00:16:30.660 are presidents,

00:16:31.620 you think like

00:16:32.240 the situation

00:16:33.100 where the

00:16:33.600 average citizen

00:16:34.240 is thinking

00:16:34.620 about, well,

00:16:34.980 they become a

00:16:35.440 president and

00:16:35.960 they take

00:16:36.340 him to Area

00:16:36.780 51, they

00:16:37.520 show him what

00:16:38.460 aliens look

00:16:39.100 like, they

00:16:39.460 show him what

00:16:39.920 kind of

00:16:40.200 spaceships we

00:16:40.840 have, and

00:16:41.640 then they're

00:16:41.940 supposed to

00:16:42.360 keep their

00:16:42.660 mouth shut and

00:16:43.240 they get all

00:16:43.660 that information.

00:16:44.400 Does that

00:16:44.780 happen or is

00:16:45.340 that just in

00:16:45.780 movies?

00:16:46.080 That's just

00:16:47.540 in movies, and

00:16:49.160 it depends on

00:16:49.800 the president.

00:16:50.480 Let me give

00:16:50.940 you an example.

00:16:52.240 In the case

00:16:52.740 of, we had a

00:16:53.540 president years

00:16:54.200 ago named

00:16:54.680 Ronald Reagan,

00:16:55.340 and he was

00:16:57.040 briefed in a

00:16:59.060 limited way on

00:17:00.360 the subject, but

00:17:01.700 with a

00:17:03.140 psychological

00:17:04.200 warfare objective

00:17:05.980 to get him to

00:17:07.360 support SDI,

00:17:09.440 space, you

00:17:10.220 know, the

00:17:10.420 so-called Star

00:17:11.220 Wars objects in

00:17:12.240 space.

00:17:13.340 And they're

00:17:15.060 in a bubble.

00:17:15.860 You know, I

00:17:16.140 mean, Truman

00:17:17.060 said, and then

00:17:17.780 Clinton repeated

00:17:18.520 that the White

00:17:19.200 House is the

00:17:19.820 crown jewel of

00:17:21.100 the federal

00:17:21.540 penitentiary

00:17:22.260 system, and

00:17:23.380 that really is

00:17:24.160 true.

00:17:24.940 So everyone

00:17:25.660 thinks that you

00:17:26.460 come out of

00:17:27.280 the, whether

00:17:27.880 you're a

00:17:28.480 businessman like

00:17:29.260 Trump or a

00:17:30.200 peanut farmer

00:17:30.760 like Jimmy

00:17:31.300 Carter, and you

00:17:32.560 become president

00:17:33.300 and you have

00:17:34.200 an absolute

00:17:34.940 all-access

00:17:35.760 pass.

00:17:36.620 And that is

00:17:37.340 true for

00:17:37.920 conventional

00:17:38.520 intelligence and

00:17:40.100 military operations.

00:17:41.740 But the

00:17:42.220 unconventional

00:17:42.980 ones, and the

00:17:44.040 proper name of

00:17:44.860 that is an

00:17:46.360 unacknowledged

00:17:47.340 special access

00:17:48.620 project, USAP.

00:17:50.800 In fact, there's

00:17:51.660 a documentary that

00:17:52.900 came out three

00:17:53.560 years ago that's

00:17:54.300 on Netflix, if

00:17:55.500 you have Netflix,

00:17:56.740 called Unacknowledged

00:17:58.120 that we did.

00:17:59.520 It's globally, it's

00:18:00.540 had over 600

00:18:01.220 million views that

00:18:02.820 you can see.

00:18:04.220 The new

00:18:05.060 documentary is a

00:18:06.680 follow-on to

00:18:07.640 that one.

00:18:08.660 But the

00:18:09.860 unacknowledged

00:18:10.520 special access

00:18:11.220 projects is the

00:18:12.080 proper military

00:18:13.120 term for

00:18:14.800 projects that

00:18:15.580 are off the

00:18:16.340 books, deep

00:18:17.460 black, and no

00:18:18.940 one is briefed

00:18:19.800 on them who

00:18:20.960 is not, doesn't

00:18:22.680 have a need to

00:18:23.260 know.

00:18:23.960 So you would

00:18:24.740 say, well, the

00:18:25.340 president has a

00:18:26.060 need to know

00:18:26.440 everything.

00:18:27.320 But those

00:18:27.840 projects have

00:18:29.540 irrigated to

00:18:30.360 themselves the

00:18:31.160 fact that, oh,

00:18:32.000 no, you don't.

00:18:33.380 And let me give

00:18:33.880 you an example.

00:18:34.720 I want to make

00:18:36.100 this less abstract

00:18:37.060 and more concrete

00:18:37.900 for people.

00:18:38.780 I was at the

00:18:40.200 Pentagon briefing

00:18:41.160 what's called

00:18:43.540 J2, the head

00:18:44.860 of intelligence

00:18:45.580 joint staff.

00:18:46.960 So you were in

00:18:47.660 the military.

00:18:48.320 So this is the

00:18:48.940 guy who is the

00:18:49.940 director of

00:18:51.080 intelligence for

00:18:52.300 the briefings for

00:18:53.220 the Joint Chiefs

00:18:53.900 of Staff of the

00:18:54.580 United States.

00:18:55.620 And he had

00:18:57.580 asked to have a

00:18:59.140 briefing by me and

00:19:00.460 some of the people

00:19:01.020 on my team because

00:19:02.940 one of my team

00:19:03.620 members knew him

00:19:04.640 and had reached

00:19:05.520 out.

00:19:05.880 Before I went

00:19:07.120 to the briefing,

00:19:08.420 I sent him a

00:19:09.300 document through

00:19:09.980 Courier that was

00:19:12.520 a briefing summary

00:19:14.080 and the top

00:19:15.300 document on it

00:19:16.420 was a document

00:19:17.680 that listed some

00:19:18.640 of the code

00:19:19.240 names and code

00:19:20.080 numbers for those

00:19:20.820 projects.

00:19:22.500 Based on that,

00:19:23.480 he recognized

00:19:24.180 one of them.

00:19:24.780 He wasn't sure

00:19:25.180 what they did and

00:19:25.760 he contacted them.

00:19:27.400 And basically,

00:19:28.100 he was threatened.

00:19:29.840 The first thing

00:19:31.040 they said to him

00:19:31.780 was, this is

00:19:32.660 Admiral Tom

00:19:33.360 Wilson, by the

00:19:34.080 way.

00:19:34.320 Admiral Wilson

00:19:35.920 was told, sir,

00:19:36.960 you don't have a

00:19:37.500 need to know.

00:19:38.960 And he said,

00:19:39.460 goddammit, how

00:19:40.180 can I not have a

00:19:40.940 need to know?

00:19:42.080 I'm the head of

00:19:43.100 intelligence for the

00:19:43.900 Joint Chiefs of

00:19:44.520 Staff.

00:19:45.260 And they said,

00:19:45.900 sir, we will not

00:19:46.560 discuss this with

00:19:47.520 you.

00:19:48.240 When he continued

00:19:49.080 to push on the

00:19:49.880 matter, he was

00:19:51.040 threatened with

00:19:51.820 being demoted and

00:19:53.520 having a star taken

00:19:54.500 off his lapel.

00:19:55.880 So you can imagine

00:19:57.000 by the time

00:19:57.600 astronaut Edgar

00:19:58.480 Mitchell, who was

00:19:59.300 the sixth man to

00:20:00.000 walk on the moon,

00:20:01.240 and I and some of

00:20:02.320 our people walked

00:20:03.120 into that office,

00:20:04.320 because this

00:20:05.060 happened before

00:20:05.640 my stand-up

00:20:06.640 briefing at the

00:20:07.620 Pentagon, he was

00:20:09.740 furious but

00:20:10.740 scared.

00:20:12.300 And so the

00:20:13.160 public thinks

00:20:14.320 that, you know,

00:20:15.800 God is in

00:20:17.100 heaven and

00:20:17.800 everything is in

00:20:18.780 orbit and

00:20:19.440 everything is,

00:20:20.320 we actually are

00:20:21.660 living in a

00:20:22.580 situation where

00:20:24.740 the extreme

00:20:26.000 secrecy, Eisenhower

00:20:27.200 warned us about,

00:20:28.480 the worst of that

00:20:29.500 has come to

00:20:30.020 fruition.

00:20:30.960 And frankly, no

00:20:32.220 one is reporting

00:20:32.940 that, certainly

00:20:33.880 not the

00:20:34.320 mainstream news

00:20:35.180 media.

00:20:36.340 So what has

00:20:37.160 happened and

00:20:37.800 what sort of

00:20:38.840 through the

00:20:39.420 looking glass

00:20:40.060 that happened

00:20:40.500 to me was

00:20:41.640 that from that

00:20:42.500 experience, I

00:20:43.580 then had a

00:20:44.160 briefing a couple

00:20:45.140 years later with

00:20:46.420 General Patrick

00:20:47.300 Hughes.

00:20:48.460 Now, for people

00:20:49.080 who don't know

00:20:49.420 who he was, he

00:20:50.100 was the three-star

00:20:50.960 general who is

00:20:52.300 the director of

00:20:53.160 the Defense

00:20:53.720 Intelligence Agency,

00:20:55.140 which is like the

00:20:55.920 CIA for the

00:20:56.860 Pentagon.

00:20:57.360 It's the big

00:20:57.820 clearing operation

00:20:59.520 for intelligence

00:21:00.920 gathering and

00:21:02.240 assessments and

00:21:03.080 analysts.

00:21:04.420 And the

00:21:04.960 director of the

00:21:05.900 Defense Intelligence

00:21:06.640 Agency, General

00:21:07.560 Hughes, had

00:21:08.780 made inquiries

00:21:10.700 through proper

00:21:11.420 channels onto

00:21:12.380 this subject, and

00:21:13.800 he was denied

00:21:14.600 access.

00:21:15.720 So I was asked

00:21:16.860 to come in with

00:21:17.780 my military advisor

00:21:18.960 and a couple

00:21:19.500 other people to

00:21:20.800 brief him, and

00:21:22.200 he told the

00:21:22.900 same story.

00:21:23.960 In fact, he

00:21:24.420 went over to his

00:21:25.240 bookshelf.

00:21:25.860 Now, imagine

00:21:26.420 this.

00:21:27.480 I'm at the

00:21:28.000 Pentagon, where

00:21:29.200 the generals and

00:21:29.880 admirals, that

00:21:30.420 part of the

00:21:30.900 Pentagon, he

00:21:32.020 goes over in

00:21:32.980 his conference

00:21:33.560 room, goes

00:21:35.340 over to his

00:21:36.140 bookshelf, picks

00:21:37.300 up a little

00:21:37.900 E.T.

00:21:38.480 doll like you'd

00:21:39.160 get at a

00:21:39.620 store, toy

00:21:40.300 store, and he

00:21:41.380 said, furiously,

00:21:43.160 he says, this

00:21:44.520 is all I've

00:21:45.880 ever gotten in

00:21:47.680 my inquiry about

00:21:48.640 this through

00:21:49.320 channels as the

00:21:50.620 director of the

00:21:51.460 Defense Intelligence

00:21:52.420 Agency.

00:21:53.840 So he was

00:21:55.300 furious, obviously,

00:21:56.860 and I said, look,

00:21:57.680 you're not the, he

00:21:58.180 says, well, who

00:21:58.680 else is in this

00:21:59.460 situation?

00:22:00.480 I said, well, the

00:22:01.340 president, the

00:22:02.220 director of the

00:22:02.820 CIA, J2, Admiral

00:22:05.380 Wilson, yourself, a

00:22:07.260 couple of the

00:22:07.760 members of the

00:22:08.320 Senate Intelligence

00:22:09.060 Committee I have

00:22:09.760 briefed, etc.

00:22:11.680 Ironically, one of

00:22:12.440 them was Senator

00:22:13.000 Dick Bryan, whose

00:22:14.400 territory was so

00:22:15.360 called Area 51,

00:22:16.620 Nellis Air Force

00:22:17.300 Base, and he had no

00:22:18.660 knowledge of this.

00:22:20.240 So, now, when I say

00:22:21.920 this, I want to

00:22:22.700 clarify something.

00:22:23.960 There have been

00:22:24.860 DCIs, directors of

00:22:27.060 central intelligence

00:22:27.840 who have been read

00:22:29.240 in or briefed.

00:22:30.220 There have been

00:22:31.140 DIA generals who

00:22:32.960 did know.

00:22:34.160 And people say, well,

00:22:34.780 why do some know and

00:22:35.740 some don't?

00:22:36.840 It's whether they've

00:22:37.940 come up with the

00:22:38.740 pedigree through these

00:22:40.720 USAP, unacknowledged

00:22:42.580 black, black, super

00:22:44.100 black projects, and are

00:22:46.340 trusted to keep the

00:22:47.440 secret.

00:22:48.420 So if they've come up

00:22:49.440 through that system,

00:22:50.780 they may know.

00:22:52.380 If they haven't come up

00:22:53.480 through that system,

00:22:54.220 which is an

00:22:54.680 alternative reality,

00:22:55.760 frankly, they're not

00:22:57.220 going to know because

00:22:58.060 they haven't been

00:22:59.100 cleared and read into

00:23:00.940 it, and it's not

00:23:02.220 known by the people

00:23:03.140 controlling those

00:23:03.820 projects that they

00:23:05.100 would, in fact,

00:23:05.940 maintain the strict

00:23:07.020 level of secrecy.

00:23:08.940 And this is not just

00:23:11.460 the United States, by

00:23:12.500 the way.

00:23:12.800 The same situation

00:23:13.800 exists in Great

00:23:15.060 Britain, Australia.

00:23:16.280 I've met with

00:23:17.320 ministers of defense

00:23:18.880 in most of the

00:23:20.720 Five Eyes

00:23:21.540 countries, which are,

00:23:22.900 of course, New

00:23:24.060 Zealand, Australia,

00:23:25.260 Canada, Great

00:23:26.080 Britain, US.

00:23:27.420 And in fact, except

00:23:28.420 for New Zealand, I've

00:23:29.400 met with MOD or

00:23:31.280 defense folks in all

00:23:33.360 those countries.

00:23:34.780 And it's an

00:23:36.120 enormous problem

00:23:37.160 because we're

00:23:38.640 talking about a

00:23:39.280 major dysfunction

00:23:40.360 of the Constitution

00:23:42.340 and rule of law

00:23:43.280 on arguably the

00:23:44.840 biggest secret in

00:23:45.960 the history of the

00:23:46.520 United States.

00:23:47.900 And when that

00:23:49.600 happens, a lot of

00:23:51.140 bad things.

00:23:51.820 things will

00:23:53.040 occur.

00:23:53.600 Things go wrong

00:23:54.560 when things are

00:23:56.140 not being overseen

00:23:57.920 properly and

00:23:58.760 controlled properly.

00:23:59.820 And that's the

00:24:00.420 situation we face.

00:24:02.000 So what I

00:24:02.420 concluded by the

00:24:03.820 year 2001,

00:24:06.020 which was, of

00:24:06.860 course, now 19

00:24:07.680 years ago,

00:24:09.220 in May,

00:24:10.280 this is almost

00:24:10.780 the 19th

00:24:11.700 anniversary,

00:24:12.700 on 2001,

00:24:14.060 May 9th, at the

00:24:15.080 National Press

00:24:15.720 Club, we held a

00:24:17.240 briefing for the

00:24:18.480 press.

00:24:18.840 press, and I

00:24:19.740 had 22 top

00:24:20.940 secret military

00:24:21.740 people there.

00:24:23.500 And it was

00:24:24.960 covered globally,

00:24:26.900 but as it began to

00:24:28.260 get covered by the

00:24:29.280 news media in the

00:24:30.140 United States, the

00:24:31.960 intelligence community

00:24:33.000 contacted those media

00:24:34.340 outlets and told them

00:24:35.700 to take it down, and

00:24:37.060 they did.

00:24:38.240 So the other myth

00:24:39.780 that people have is

00:24:41.040 that on the things

00:24:42.500 that are really

00:24:43.200 important, that we

00:24:44.620 have a free press.

00:24:46.100 We do not.

00:24:46.780 Actually, the

00:24:48.220 Soviet Union had a

00:24:49.400 freer press than we

00:24:50.200 do on this.

00:24:51.520 So, ironically,

00:24:53.520 there's a really

00:24:54.620 big problem with

00:24:56.320 the U.S.

00:24:57.380 function because

00:24:58.560 of this level of,

00:25:00.180 frankly, corruption.

00:25:01.540 There's nothing

00:25:01.900 else to call it

00:25:02.620 but corruption.

00:25:04.440 And it has really

00:25:05.580 hurt our democracy,

00:25:06.520 but it's also

00:25:07.220 hurting our

00:25:07.960 economy.

00:25:09.860 People often

00:25:10.700 say, you know,

00:25:11.280 why are we

00:25:12.960 still using

00:25:13.820 jet engines

00:25:14.940 from the

00:25:15.720 30s, 40s, 50s,

00:25:17.140 or rockets

00:25:18.500 from the

00:25:19.080 40s?

00:25:19.760 I'm saying

00:25:20.400 because the

00:25:21.000 alternative would

00:25:22.700 completely terminate

00:25:23.940 the petrodollar

00:25:25.220 system and oil

00:25:26.740 and gas

00:25:27.500 and coal

00:25:28.100 and nuclear

00:25:28.760 power

00:25:29.220 and public

00:25:30.040 utilities.

00:25:30.820 All of it is

00:25:31.680 redundant,

00:25:32.420 completely

00:25:32.840 unnecessary.

00:25:34.180 Now, people

00:25:35.220 say, well, then

00:25:36.020 the cure may be

00:25:36.740 worse than the

00:25:37.260 disease.

00:25:37.760 I said, no,

00:25:38.780 there's no

00:25:39.140 disease worse

00:25:39.960 than a terminal

00:25:40.900 event for the

00:25:41.720 biosphere.

00:25:42.800 So, going back

00:25:43.680 to when you were

00:25:44.240 talking about

00:25:44.700 those organizations

00:25:45.420 that are separate

00:25:46.220 than even the

00:25:47.800 director of CIA

00:25:48.960 or any of our

00:25:49.620 leaders knowing,

00:25:50.960 who are they

00:25:51.520 recruiting that's

00:25:52.380 different, that's

00:25:53.240 underground that we

00:25:53.960 don't know about?

00:25:54.480 Are they recruiting

00:25:55.240 military folks or

00:25:56.840 they're recruiting

00:25:57.420 different backgrounds?

00:25:59.360 Both.

00:25:59.800 I mean, I know

00:26:00.560 scientists who

00:26:01.400 work in SCIFs,

00:26:02.880 Secure Communication

00:26:03.980 Information Facilities,

00:26:05.560 it's got a SCIF,

00:26:06.880 who are civilian

00:26:08.100 who work on these

00:26:08.920 projects.

00:26:09.940 I know corporate

00:26:10.820 folks with

00:26:12.140 science applications,

00:26:13.120 International Corporation

00:26:14.440 or Lockheed Skunk

00:26:15.460 Works, my uncle's

00:26:16.640 old company,

00:26:17.340 Northrop Grumman.

00:26:18.740 There's a lot of

00:26:19.740 contracting, but it's

00:26:21.340 very, very highly

00:26:22.160 compartmented.

00:26:23.300 In the government,

00:26:24.320 it's similarly highly

00:26:25.460 compartmented.

00:26:27.420 And the proper name,

00:26:28.720 you know, people use

00:26:30.580 the term deep state.

00:26:32.180 It's an incorrect term.

00:26:33.520 The proper term is an

00:26:34.660 unacknowledged special

00:26:35.920 access project.

00:26:37.700 You know, it's a good

00:26:38.220 tutorial for the

00:26:39.120 president to learn the

00:26:40.020 proper lingo, frankly,

00:26:41.700 for this.

00:26:43.320 And this is the

00:26:44.080 world I've been

00:26:44.700 steeped in for 30

00:26:46.200 years now.

00:26:46.800 But I think we

00:26:48.200 have a situation

00:26:49.460 where the

00:26:50.680 corporate

00:26:51.620 classified

00:26:52.860 sector is

00:26:55.000 where the

00:26:56.020 research and

00:26:56.820 development and

00:26:57.680 technology

00:26:58.240 is mainly

00:27:00.380 happening,

00:27:01.120 but under the

00:27:02.040 aegis of

00:27:02.760 USAP,

00:27:03.740 unacknowledged

00:27:04.300 special access

00:27:04.920 projects from the

00:27:06.220 military and

00:27:07.120 intelligence community.

00:27:08.080 So it's sort of a

00:27:09.580 hybrid

00:27:10.000 operation between

00:27:12.180 a corporate

00:27:13.000 and a governmental

00:27:14.600 very top secret

00:27:15.580 program.

00:27:16.340 That's interesting to

00:27:17.300 know that because it's

00:27:18.000 even a whole different

00:27:18.560 level than a CIA or

00:27:20.100 a Delta Force.

00:27:22.140 You're talking about

00:27:22.980 a league of its own

00:27:24.200 is what it is.

00:27:24.760 So you mentioned

00:27:25.900 earlier that one of

00:27:27.260 the reasons why

00:27:28.160 maybe these

00:27:29.820 conversations are not

00:27:30.780 being had because

00:27:31.640 many industries would

00:27:32.840 take a big hit.

00:27:34.500 And so to control

00:27:35.660 it, I think it's a

00:27:36.720 quote you gave about

00:27:37.660 when Tesla was

00:27:39.220 able to build a

00:27:40.260 car without an

00:27:41.120 engine or without

00:27:41.880 a battery.

00:27:43.120 And I think he was

00:27:43.800 talking to an

00:27:44.680 entrepreneur at the

00:27:45.500 time.

00:27:45.680 I don't know if it

00:27:46.080 was Edison or

00:27:46.900 Ford.

00:27:48.380 Who was it he was

00:27:49.040 talking to?

00:27:49.200 He was talking to

00:27:49.960 JP Morgan.

00:27:50.920 He was talking to

00:27:51.420 JP Morgan.

00:27:52.280 Tesla actually had

00:27:55.100 a prototype car

00:27:57.440 that was pulling

00:27:58.760 energy out of the

00:28:00.060 environment.

00:28:02.440 And he didn't

00:28:03.280 really understand

00:28:03.920 what that was.

00:28:05.520 We do now.

00:28:06.340 It's called zero

00:28:07.040 point energy or

00:28:08.060 quantum vacuum

00:28:08.880 energy.

00:28:10.260 But basically,

00:28:11.980 just for people who

00:28:13.200 are non-scientific,

00:28:15.220 not scientists,

00:28:17.180 if you visualize a

00:28:19.220 coffee cup, the

00:28:20.180 amount of space

00:28:20.960 inside that cup has

00:28:22.740 enough energy to

00:28:24.080 boil off all the

00:28:25.260 oceans of the

00:28:26.100 planet and its

00:28:27.780 potential.

00:28:28.760 And it's called the

00:28:29.380 zero point energy

00:28:30.240 field.

00:28:30.600 It's been quantified.

00:28:31.680 It was in academic

00:28:33.560 papers in the

00:28:34.340 50s, so-called

00:28:35.580 Professor Casimir

00:28:36.780 effect.

00:28:38.400 But Tesla stumbled

00:28:39.340 across this way back

00:28:41.340 early 20s, I believe,

00:28:42.520 maybe before.

00:28:43.820 But JP Morgan said,

00:28:44.880 look, if we can't put a

00:28:45.880 meter on it, we don't

00:28:47.400 want it.

00:28:48.940 So Tesla died a very

00:28:50.960 bitter man.

00:28:52.000 I always joke that Elon

00:28:53.200 Musk doesn't have a

00:28:54.200 Tesla that he's

00:28:55.460 manufacturing.

00:28:56.340 He has a Musk.

00:28:57.140 And the reason I say

00:28:58.660 that sort of jokingly

00:28:59.880 is that a true Tesla

00:29:01.920 would never have to be

00:29:03.120 plugged into the grid.

00:29:04.600 It would be pulling

00:29:05.400 energy out of this

00:29:06.640 energy, this state of

00:29:07.920 energy that's around

00:29:09.520 us through very high

00:29:11.260 voltage systems.

00:29:12.720 They're called VHV,

00:29:14.180 very high voltage

00:29:14.980 systems that create

00:29:16.560 an opening into that

00:29:18.560 energy field.

00:29:19.840 And Tesla did enough

00:29:21.720 experimentation with

00:29:23.460 these sort of very

00:29:24.300 high voltage systems at

00:29:25.680 certain

00:29:26.180 resonant frequencies

00:29:28.060 cycles per second

00:29:29.240 hertz that he broke

00:29:31.500 that he broke into

00:29:32.240 that area of science.

00:29:33.540 But no one wanted it

00:29:34.960 to come out.

00:29:35.840 Now, you know, fast

00:29:36.700 forward 100 years

00:29:37.420 later, we're still

00:29:38.840 burning gasoline and

00:29:40.540 engines and rocket

00:29:41.800 fuel and jets.

00:29:43.120 And that's a tragedy

00:29:44.100 for the human race.

00:29:45.240 But it's a tragedy

00:29:46.080 for the planet.

00:29:47.280 And it's a tragedy

00:29:48.080 for our children and

00:29:49.620 my nine

00:29:51.220 grandchildren.

00:29:52.320 So my concern is,

00:29:54.560 you know, the

00:29:55.500 future.

00:29:56.540 The past is the

00:29:57.880 past.

00:29:58.920 But we have to

00:29:59.680 figure out how to

00:30:00.460 catch up sort of

00:30:02.020 back to the future.

00:30:03.000 We, you know, it's

00:30:04.340 like that cartoon

00:30:05.340 show, the Jetsons,

00:30:06.820 when they showed

00:30:07.260 people flying around

00:30:08.160 in these cars.

00:30:08.860 When that cartoon

00:30:09.640 was made, those

00:30:10.700 technologies were

00:30:11.540 already developed.

00:30:12.680 Going back to what

00:30:13.260 you said about free

00:30:13.880 press, you were

00:30:15.580 mentioning the fact

00:30:16.360 that we think we

00:30:16.940 have a free press,

00:30:17.960 but we don't.

00:30:18.500 Were you alluding

00:30:19.820 to Project

00:30:20.800 Mockingbird?

00:30:22.460 Yes.

00:30:23.060 Of course,

00:30:23.720 Project Mockingbird and

00:30:24.820 there are others

00:30:25.520 that existed where,

00:30:28.180 for example,

00:30:29.520 a constitutional

00:30:30.240 attorney, Daniel

00:30:31.540 Sheehan, that's in

00:30:32.560 this new documentary,

00:30:34.300 Close Encounters of

00:30:35.180 the Fifth Kind,

00:30:36.700 he states that when

00:30:38.060 he was representing

00:30:39.040 the New York Times

00:30:40.180 in the Pentagon

00:30:41.060 Papers scandal

00:30:43.580 back in the 70s

00:30:44.820 during the Vietnam

00:30:45.400 War, he saw a

00:30:47.820 document that

00:30:48.820 listed, it listed

00:30:51.120 42 different

00:30:52.940 people who were

00:30:54.740 senior national

00:30:55.660 security editors

00:30:56.720 at major media

00:30:57.960 who were also

00:30:59.480 dual-purposed on

00:31:00.540 the payroll of the

00:31:01.280 CIA.

00:31:02.500 And he thought

00:31:03.140 this was a very

00:31:03.840 significant thing in

00:31:05.220 terms of freedom

00:31:05.880 of the press

00:31:06.540 and independence

00:31:07.140 of the press.

00:31:08.860 But nobody would

00:31:11.080 let that story

00:31:11.800 get reported

00:31:12.440 because it's

00:31:14.240 scandalously corrupt

00:31:15.980 because the free

00:31:18.560 press and the

00:31:19.560 fourth estate is

00:31:20.520 one of the

00:31:20.960 pillars of a

00:31:22.260 democracy.

00:31:23.640 And that sort

00:31:24.340 of makes a

00:31:28.300 mock, Project

00:31:29.660 Mockingbird made

00:31:30.820 a mockery of

00:31:31.800 that.

00:31:32.900 And then, you

00:31:33.440 know, in my own

00:31:34.440 adventures back

00:31:35.760 in the 90s, I

00:31:36.660 was meeting with

00:31:37.240 Bob Schwartz in

00:31:38.240 New York, he

00:31:39.240 was on the

00:31:39.640 board of

00:31:40.160 Time Life, which

00:31:41.760 became AOL, Time

00:31:42.920 Warner, blah, blah,

00:31:43.740 blah.

00:31:44.800 And, you know, he

00:31:45.840 was an older

00:31:46.620 gentleman who

00:31:48.180 had, you know,

00:31:48.700 good friends with

00:31:49.340 Mike Wallace at

00:31:50.200 60 Minutes and

00:31:51.100 what have you.

00:31:52.100 And I was with

00:31:53.180 him at a

00:31:53.640 gathering in New

00:31:54.420 York.

00:31:54.640 I was doing a

00:31:55.260 briefing for a

00:31:55.940 lot of the New

00:31:57.320 York, I hate to

00:31:58.640 use the word

00:31:59.080 elites, but, you

00:32:00.140 know, leaders, the

00:32:01.900 so-called New

00:32:02.400 York 100.

00:32:02.940 And when I was

00:32:04.740 at this meeting, he

00:32:05.580 turned to me, he

00:32:06.100 says, you know, the

00:32:08.120 fourth estate is

00:32:08.900 dead.

00:32:09.700 I said, what do

00:32:10.100 you mean?

00:32:10.820 He says, we're

00:32:11.420 scribes taking

00:32:12.760 dictation from the

00:32:14.220 right hand of the

00:32:14.840 king.

00:32:15.480 He says, we don't

00:32:16.260 have a fourth

00:32:16.800 estate.

00:32:17.420 There is no free

00:32:18.140 press in the United

00:32:18.800 States on the

00:32:20.140 things that really

00:32:21.100 matter.

00:32:21.960 And then he told

00:32:22.400 me this story.

00:32:24.060 Mr. Schwartz told

00:32:24.840 me this story of, you

00:32:26.180 know, his friend Mike

00:32:26.940 Wallace of 60

00:32:28.280 Minutes was given

00:32:30.200 some documents about

00:32:31.460 these UFO covert

00:32:32.820 programs.

00:32:34.460 And Mike Wallace

00:32:35.280 wanted to do the

00:32:36.000 story.

00:32:36.540 And CBS in 60

00:32:38.460 Minutes say, you

00:32:39.080 will not do this

00:32:40.920 story.

00:32:42.480 And Mike Wallace

00:32:44.620 went into a very

00:32:46.020 deep depression over

00:32:47.080 this, that he later

00:32:47.940 admitted to the

00:32:49.460 public that he was

00:32:50.680 very depressed.

00:32:52.220 And he said on

00:32:53.060 Larry King, I'd

00:32:53.940 been on Larry King

00:32:54.720 around this time, and

00:32:56.240 he said on Larry

00:32:56.920 King Live, which was

00:32:58.200 a post on CNN back

00:32:59.420 in the old days, and

00:33:00.840 he said, I'm a

00:33:02.040 fraud.

00:33:02.820 And Larry said, what

00:33:03.780 do you mean you're a

00:33:04.320 fraud?

00:33:05.580 To Mike Wallace.

00:33:07.080 And he wouldn't go

00:33:07.980 into the details, but

00:33:08.980 this is the back

00:33:09.780 story.

00:33:10.220 Bob Schwartz told

00:33:10.940 me, look, you

00:33:11.980 know, he was

00:33:12.700 devastated that the

00:33:13.760 biggest story that

00:33:15.020 would have been ever

00:33:16.580 in investigative

00:33:17.640 journalism, CBS

00:33:19.520 jumped in and killed

00:33:22.600 it and wouldn't let

00:33:23.640 it be broadcast or

00:33:25.400 even pursued on 60

00:33:27.680 Minutes, which of

00:33:28.460 course, at that

00:33:29.800 time was the

00:33:30.700 blue chip

00:33:31.520 investigative

00:33:32.140 reporting, you

00:33:35.700 know, news

00:33:37.400 magazine on

00:33:38.200 network television.

00:33:40.080 So that's one of

00:33:40.980 the, this is

00:33:41.460 something that's

00:33:42.180 sort of a side

00:33:42.880 issue to what I'm

00:33:43.620 working on, but

00:33:44.840 it's a big part of

00:33:45.760 why when you turn

00:33:47.280 on your television

00:33:48.220 set, even if you

00:33:50.000 get these leaked

00:33:51.320 Pentagon videos that

00:33:52.700 came out, they

00:33:53.560 re-released them this

00:33:54.700 past week.

00:33:55.440 You probably saw

00:33:56.220 them on CNN and

00:33:57.200 elsewhere.

00:33:58.140 They're not going

00:33:58.820 to say, A, we

00:34:00.580 know what these

00:34:01.100 are, B, we

00:34:02.740 know where they

00:34:03.220 come from, C, we

00:34:05.020 figured out how

00:34:05.680 they work.

00:34:07.200 Let me give you a

00:34:07.880 date that's going

00:34:08.400 to probably curl

00:34:09.120 your toes.

00:34:11.180 October 1954.

00:34:13.940 That was the date

00:34:15.120 we mastered gravity

00:34:17.080 control.

00:34:18.400 Now, what do I

00:34:18.900 mean by gravity

00:34:19.540 control?

00:34:20.320 What I mean by

00:34:20.960 gravity control are

00:34:22.700 high voltage systems

00:34:24.100 that cause an

00:34:25.560 object to what

00:34:26.880 looks like levitate

00:34:27.980 or move the way

00:34:28.780 that vehicle that

00:34:30.180 you saw in that

00:34:30.880 video released by

00:34:31.860 the Pentagon this

00:34:32.700 week.

00:34:33.220 And they confirmed,

00:34:34.120 yes, this is real

00:34:34.760 footage, and they

00:34:35.880 released three

00:34:36.380 different videos.

00:34:37.560 What they didn't

00:34:38.620 say, because the

00:34:39.760 people releasing it

00:34:40.720 don't know this,

00:34:41.820 because of the

00:34:42.620 compartmentalization,

00:34:44.600 is that there is

00:34:46.580 an unacknowledged

00:34:47.680 compartmented program

00:34:48.820 that began studying

00:34:50.160 this in the 40s and

00:34:51.100 50s, and by 1954,

00:34:53.180 had figured out how

00:34:54.340 those things

00:34:55.120 operate.

00:34:56.540 So, not to

00:34:57.440 confuse your viewers

00:34:58.500 any more than I

00:34:59.500 probably already

00:35:00.160 have, but, so

00:35:02.960 when you see one of

00:35:03.660 these objects, you

00:35:04.440 have to ask a

00:35:05.060 question, is it a

00:35:06.440 classified aerospace

00:35:08.860 project from the

00:35:10.080 Lockheed Skunk Works,

00:35:11.380 or my uncle's

00:35:12.060 company, North

00:35:12.700 and Drummond, or is

00:35:14.040 it interstellar,

00:35:15.160 extraterrestrial?

00:35:16.300 And both are out

00:35:17.320 there, by the way,

00:35:18.640 but no one's asking

00:35:19.580 the question, is it A

00:35:20.740 or B, and that's a

00:35:22.600 very big fault of

00:35:23.980 the so-called

00:35:25.600 Why are they not

00:35:26.200 asking that?

00:35:27.040 What's the big deal

00:35:27.720 of asking that?

00:35:27.780 They're not asking

00:35:28.300 the right questions,

00:35:29.160 yes.

00:35:29.760 But why not ask that

00:35:30.940 question?

00:35:31.300 It doesn't seem like

00:35:32.020 it's a big deal of a

00:35:32.840 question.

00:35:34.160 Well, because the

00:35:35.700 reportage on this

00:35:36.860 never goes that deep.

00:35:38.240 It gets, it's just,

00:35:39.100 here's something that

00:35:39.860 got released, what is

00:35:40.860 it?

00:35:41.040 We don't know, on to

00:35:42.200 the next story.

00:35:43.760 But do you know why

00:35:44.640 they waited?

00:35:45.160 I mean, this happened

00:35:45.800 in 04, it's not like

00:35:46.880 this happened just

00:35:47.660 three months ago, and

00:35:49.600 even the Navy

00:35:50.780 pilot, I think it's

00:35:51.840 Underwood, Chad

00:35:52.920 Underwood, who was

00:35:54.420 flying it, he says,

00:35:55.860 you know, I saw this

00:35:56.620 thing, and you know,

00:35:57.340 you've seen this

00:35:57.920 before video when he's

00:35:58.760 explaining it, and

00:35:59.460 even ex-UFO program

00:36:01.020 chief Luis Elizondo

00:36:02.660 says, we may not be

00:36:04.020 alone here, you know,

00:36:05.820 why are they waiting

00:36:06.840 from 04 to now to

00:36:08.220 release these three

00:36:08.960 videos?

00:36:10.680 Well, my own

00:36:12.060 assessment of that

00:36:13.080 is about two and a

00:36:16.060 half years ago when

00:36:16.760 they first surfaced,

00:36:17.760 this documentary

00:36:19.520 called Unacknowledged

00:36:20.820 went viral, and

00:36:23.340 literally has had

00:36:24.300 over 600 million

00:36:25.120 people see it.

00:36:26.680 The counterintelligence

00:36:28.420 people at the

00:36:29.600 Pentagon, which

00:36:30.840 includes Luis

00:36:31.820 Elizondo, wanted

00:36:33.900 this footage to

00:36:34.960 come out, but with

00:36:35.880 the narrative that

00:36:37.420 it's a threat to our

00:36:38.860 national security.

00:36:40.020 If you look at the

00:36:41.200 sub-Rosa narrative,

00:36:43.160 most of the

00:36:43.720 narrative, excuse

00:36:44.560 me, there's a beam

00:36:45.680 of light coming

00:36:46.200 from the side.

00:36:47.740 If you look at

00:36:49.460 that narrative, what

00:36:51.840 they have been

00:36:52.620 saying is, yes, this

00:36:53.960 is real, but it's a

00:36:55.620 threat to our air

00:36:56.480 space, it's a threat

00:36:57.360 to our pilots.

00:36:58.160 Why?

00:36:59.120 Well, there's a man

00:37:00.320 named Werner von

00:37:01.220 Brown who invented

00:37:02.480 the rocket for

00:37:03.260 Adolf Hitler.

00:37:04.260 He became the

00:37:05.720 foundation of our

00:37:06.660 space program.

00:37:08.220 His spokesperson for

00:37:09.540 the last five years

00:37:10.380 of his life is on

00:37:11.220 my team, Carol

00:37:12.820 Rosen, and she

00:37:14.160 said, look, he

00:37:15.140 said, what they're

00:37:15.820 going to do, there's

00:37:17.060 going to be global,

00:37:18.000 there's going to be

00:37:18.540 the Cold War, then

00:37:19.760 global terrorism, then

00:37:21.580 other threats from

00:37:22.860 outer space, and the

00:37:24.620 final card they're

00:37:25.880 going to play is the

00:37:28.280 alien threat card, and

00:37:29.920 it's all a hoax.

00:37:31.160 It's all a lie.

00:37:32.800 And this gets into

00:37:34.400 how people who have

00:37:37.820 these sort of agendas

00:37:39.140 can exploit a subject

00:37:41.000 conflict and make a

00:37:42.700 disaster out of

00:37:44.540 something that

00:37:44.940 shouldn't be a

00:37:45.480 disaster.

00:37:46.860 You know, not unlike

00:37:47.800 us storming into

00:37:48.860 Iraq during the, after

00:37:51.900 9-11, when there was

00:37:53.440 a scintilla of

00:37:54.340 evidence that Iraq

00:37:55.860 had anything to do

00:37:56.660 with 9-11, which

00:37:58.160 now has destroyed

00:37:59.040 that entire region of

00:38:00.160 the Middle East, and

00:38:01.840 even Trump has said

00:38:02.820 that, you know, that

00:38:04.320 was a huge mistake,

00:38:06.300 but here we are, you

00:38:07.660 know, all these years

00:38:08.280 later.

00:38:08.600 What I'm concerned

00:38:09.800 about is that that

00:38:11.700 release was timed to

00:38:14.280 hijack the narrative

00:38:15.940 away from the fact

00:38:16.960 that we're not alone

00:38:19.360 in the universe.

00:38:20.520 We have these objects.

00:38:21.860 We understand how

00:38:22.920 they work.

00:38:23.900 That needs to be

00:38:24.720 disclosed, and we

00:38:26.480 need to make peaceful

00:38:27.420 contact with these

00:38:28.340 civilizations, not be

00:38:29.940 shooting them down

00:38:30.760 with lasers.

00:38:32.440 But the narrative that

00:38:34.880 the intelligence

00:38:35.480 community has begun to

00:38:38.500 create is, unfortunately,

00:38:41.800 one of a threat

00:38:43.180 matrix, where they're

00:38:44.680 adding to the threat

00:38:45.580 matrix this alien

00:38:47.360 threat, and I can

00:38:48.480 assure you, having

00:38:49.260 worked with everyone

00:38:50.600 in every compartment,

00:38:53.220 literally nearly a

00:38:54.920 thousand people

00:38:55.720 been in these

00:38:56.100 projects, there's not

00:38:57.120 a scintilla of

00:38:58.560 evidence that these

00:38:59.720 are a threat to our

00:39:01.040 national security or

00:39:02.100 to the human race.

00:39:03.380 Now, I will say that

00:39:05.000 they think that humans

00:39:05.980 are a threat.

00:39:06.660 They think that humans

00:39:08.660 are actually becoming

00:39:11.900 a threat because we're

00:39:14.400 dangerously destroying

00:39:16.200 this planet's biosphere.

00:39:17.720 We're beginning to go

00:39:19.000 out in space with killer

00:39:21.020 satellites, and we have

00:39:23.180 been targeting these E.T.

00:39:25.260 spacecraft for a number

00:39:26.920 of decades with

00:39:27.740 increasingly sophisticated

00:39:29.200 classified weapon

00:39:30.800 systems.

00:39:31.580 Doc, who's they?

00:39:32.560 You said they are

00:39:33.480 worried that we are a

00:39:34.720 threat.

00:39:34.900 Who's they?

00:39:36.060 The extraterrestrial

00:39:37.060 civilizations.

00:39:38.140 They think we're a

00:39:39.060 threat.

00:39:39.660 Yes, and to ourselves

00:39:41.580 and others.

00:39:42.480 You know, I want to laugh

00:39:43.580 as an emergency doctor

00:39:44.680 if somebody really crazy

00:39:47.520 comes into the emergency

00:39:48.580 department where they're

00:39:50.200 mentally ill and they're

00:39:51.120 a threat to themselves

00:39:52.040 or others, they're put

00:39:55.020 in an involuntary

00:39:56.220 commitment because you

00:39:57.920 don't want them to kill

00:39:58.580 themselves or kill an

00:39:59.540 innocent person.

00:40:00.960 I think that these

00:40:02.100 civilizations view humans

00:40:03.560 at this stage of

00:40:05.540 becoming extremely

00:40:07.660 technologically advanced

00:40:09.220 but not socially and

00:40:11.180 spiritually advanced

00:40:12.060 enough to handle it.

00:40:13.740 And we're, you know,

00:40:15.440 obviously have weapons

00:40:16.380 of mass destruction

00:40:17.220 that you know about.

00:40:18.800 What your audience

00:40:19.760 doesn't know about is

00:40:21.100 that there are multiple

00:40:22.560 generations of

00:40:23.860 electromagnetic weapons

00:40:25.380 that are much more

00:40:26.940 dangerous than a

00:40:28.300 hydrogen bomb that have

00:40:29.720 been developed.

00:40:30.260 And those have been

00:40:31.820 put on satellites that

00:40:33.520 have targeted these

00:40:34.720 ET spacecraft.

00:40:36.680 And this, when I, this

00:40:37.660 was the main reason, by

00:40:38.840 the way, I briefed the

00:40:40.580 head of the Defense

00:40:41.340 Intelligence Agency.

00:40:42.780 He had heard rumblings of

00:40:44.320 this and knew that it was

00:40:46.180 an existential threat to

00:40:48.320 the peace and security of

00:40:49.520 not just the United States

00:40:50.580 but of our civilization.

00:40:52.620 How do you know that the

00:40:53.560 extraterrestrial thinks

00:40:54.720 we are a threat?

00:40:56.020 How do you know that?

00:40:58.760 Well, a lot of it is

00:41:00.320 observational.

00:41:01.220 For example, when the

00:41:03.460 Minot, North Dakota

00:41:04.680 intercontinental ballistic

00:41:06.420 missile silos, where we

00:41:07.820 have our big nuclear

00:41:08.760 intercontinental weapons,

00:41:10.560 was breached by UFOs back

00:41:14.160 in the 60s, the men that

00:41:16.460 were in the silo, a number

00:41:18.240 of whom are on my team,

00:41:19.740 said that the message that

00:41:21.380 they were receiving from

00:41:24.160 the behavior, what they

00:41:26.400 did, what the ETs did,

00:41:27.800 they took at least 18 of

00:41:30.420 those multiple warhead

00:41:31.980 intercontinental ballistic

00:41:33.700 missiles offline.

00:41:35.120 They rendered them

00:41:35.960 unlaunchable.

00:41:37.060 But they did it only as a

00:41:38.760 way of saying, please don't

00:41:40.460 blow up this beautiful

00:41:41.360 planet, but if you do go

00:41:43.220 to a full launch, we can

00:41:45.200 minimize it.

00:41:47.420 And this has been one of

00:41:49.280 the things that I talked

00:41:50.340 to, if you look at the

00:41:51.160 disclosure project materials,

00:41:52.760 I have an interview with

00:41:54.360 Colonel Dietrich, who was

00:41:55.680 the head of the nuclear

00:42:00.980 supervisory group for the

00:42:04.860 Air Force, but also the old

00:42:06.980 Atomic Energy Commission.

00:42:09.000 And he said, every one of

00:42:10.680 our atomic weapons and space

00:42:13.240 facilities had been

00:42:14.860 surveyed by these ETs, and

00:42:18.080 they had all concluded that

00:42:20.380 they were not doing anything

00:42:21.540 to threaten us, but they

00:42:23.060 thought that we had become

00:42:24.400 a threat to ourselves and

00:42:26.340 could potentially in the

00:42:27.480 future be a threat,

00:42:29.640 existential threat, out in

00:42:30.920 space.

00:42:32.040 So humans being so

00:42:34.040 narcissistic, we always are

00:42:35.540 thinking, oh, I don't

00:42:37.080 understand what this is.

00:42:38.220 It's a threat to me.

00:42:39.580 The irony of this is that

00:42:41.100 we're actually the out-of-control

00:42:43.080 primates rampaging around the

00:42:45.860 planet with endless wars and

00:42:48.720 now covertly putting programs

00:42:51.180 up into space that are

00:42:53.480 extremely powerful technologies

00:42:55.520 on satellites that are a

00:42:57.700 threat.

00:42:58.580 So this is a very complex

00:43:00.500 issue that we've gotten into,

00:43:02.040 but this was also why when

00:43:04.080 Boutros Boutros-Ghali was the

00:43:05.640 UN Secretary General, I had a

00:43:07.740 meeting with his folks, with

00:43:08.900 him and his wife, and it was a

00:43:11.280 discussion about how do we

00:43:14.240 approach this issue in a way

00:43:16.960 that de-escalates it and where

00:43:20.200 we have some kind of rational

00:43:22.060 diplomatic outreach to whoever

00:43:26.180 are in these UFOs, the ones

00:43:29.880 that are not man-made.

00:43:32.260 And that's what the Close

00:43:33.700 Encounters of the Fifth Kind is.

00:43:35.680 The CE5 initiative is all about

00:43:37.560 doing that.

00:43:38.640 It reminds me a little bit of

00:43:39.840 what we did in the Cold War.

00:43:42.380 There was a group called

00:43:43.140 Physicians for Social

00:43:44.160 Responsibility that were

00:43:46.040 American physicians that went

00:43:47.460 over to the Soviet Union to

00:43:49.260 create some sort of dialogue to

00:43:51.320 try to diffuse this mutual

00:43:53.980 assured destruction, you know,

00:43:56.220 atomic clock getting too far

00:43:58.600 out of hand where we may go to

00:44:00.500 DEFCON 1 and launch all our

00:44:02.360 missiles.

00:44:03.380 And what we're doing with Close

00:44:05.220 Encounters of the Fifth Kind is

00:44:06.380 sort of a citizen's diplomacy

00:44:08.520 outreach to these civilizations

00:44:10.180 using some rather novel,

00:44:13.140 perhaps controversial protocols

00:44:15.200 and techniques, but that work.

00:44:18.320 And they're based on what I was

00:44:20.340 talking about earlier, non-locality

00:44:22.500 and consciousness and connection

00:44:24.420 to these objects.

00:44:26.000 They have very sophisticated

00:44:27.440 systems that can interface with

00:44:29.740 people who go into what some

00:44:32.960 people would call a deep

00:44:33.900 meditative state who then can

00:44:35.960 remote view.

00:44:37.220 Now, the remote viewing term is

00:44:38.820 from the CIA back in the 70s where

00:44:41.580 they trained people to basically

00:44:43.240 spy on the Soviet Union using

00:44:45.580 consciousness.

00:44:46.660 And it was a very successful

00:44:47.700 program.

00:44:48.180 If you look at Dr.

00:44:50.180 Russell Targ and others, he's a

00:44:51.980 physicist who was in that program

00:44:53.340 for 23 years.

00:44:55.060 They had enormous success using

00:44:57.160 that.

00:44:57.840 We're using that not to spy, but to

00:45:00.540 make contact and to create a

00:45:04.360 liaison between humans and those

00:45:07.320 civilizations because our government

00:45:09.620 has completely failed us.

00:45:10.920 And frankly, so is the United

00:45:12.140 Nations.

00:45:12.520 So that's why we're taking this

00:45:14.140 wide through doing this

00:45:16.040 documentary.

00:45:17.420 You know, the way you speak is

00:45:20.180 incredibly convincing.

00:45:21.920 And you obviously come across

00:45:23.720 extremely confident.

00:45:24.980 You have an incredible voice.

00:45:26.200 You have a track record, 80,000

00:45:28.540 patients, emergency doctor, MD.

00:45:31.600 You've briefed Pentagon, all these

00:45:33.860 other places you've been.

00:45:34.920 But the way you explain that the

00:45:37.020 extraterrestrial is concerned more

00:45:39.880 about us than we ought to be,

00:45:41.560 they're worried about them.

00:45:43.520 You say that in a way of certainty,

00:45:46.060 like you're 100% confident that

00:45:51.000 that's what it is.

00:45:51.960 You're not saying it with, I believe

00:45:54.480 that's what they're thinking.

00:45:56.200 You're saying that they are

00:45:57.400 concerned.

00:45:57.960 That's a definite answer you're

00:45:59.200 given.

00:45:59.900 How could you give a definite

00:46:01.180 answer and not saying this is what

00:46:02.780 my feelings are?

00:46:04.960 Because I've spent 30 years leading

00:46:07.220 a team that has made contact with

00:46:08.960 these civilizations.

00:46:11.060 You've spent, okay, so let me ask

00:46:14.280 you a question.

00:46:14.780 Have you, you talk about the five

00:46:16.240 different levels of encounters,

00:46:17.640 right?

00:46:17.900 If you don't mind explaining the

00:46:18.940 five different encounters.

00:46:20.140 Oh yeah, we can do that.

00:46:21.520 So a close encounter of the first

00:46:23.100 kind is when an object is seen

00:46:25.240 within a reasonable distance where

00:46:27.120 you can actually see the structure

00:46:28.240 of it.

00:46:28.780 A close encounter of the second kind

00:46:30.640 is when there's some physical

00:46:32.500 evidence that is left, like it

00:46:33.960 lands, it leaves evidence, like the

00:46:35.840 Bentwaters case in England, or a

00:46:38.360 radar where it's on radar, like you

00:46:40.340 saw there, where there's some clear

00:46:42.220 physical evidence that is resulting.

00:46:45.600 Everyone knows what close encounter

00:46:46.980 of the third kind is from the

00:46:48.260 Steven Spielberg movie is when there

00:46:50.400 is a encounter with an actual

00:46:52.740 extraterrestrial biological entity, an

00:46:55.820 EBE.

00:46:57.340 A close encounter of the fourth kind is

00:46:59.740 when someone has an experience where

00:47:01.040 they're taking on board one of these

00:47:03.540 craft.

00:47:04.260 And then a close encounter of the

00:47:05.320 fifth kind is when humans, instead

00:47:07.900 of these being, those other four

00:47:09.520 are passive events.

00:47:11.220 A close encounter of the fifth kind is

00:47:12.460 when humans initiate the

00:47:14.000 communication and contact under a

00:47:16.480 mutual conditions.

00:47:18.400 So that's what a close encounter of

00:47:19.840 the fifth kind is.

00:47:20.880 Which of the five have you

00:47:22.380 personally experienced?

00:47:23.920 All five.

00:47:25.120 You've personally experienced all

00:47:26.720 five?

00:47:27.200 Yes.

00:47:27.460 So you've personally had interaction

00:47:29.360 with extraterrestrial

00:47:30.460 aliens out there?

00:47:33.420 Yes.

00:47:34.100 Personally?

00:47:35.120 Yes.

00:47:35.780 And you're 100% about that?

00:47:37.820 Yes.

00:47:38.980 Has it been a face-to-face or it's

00:47:41.100 been through the energy?

00:47:43.040 Face-to-face.

00:47:44.280 You face-to-face met an alien before?

00:47:48.020 Yes.

00:47:48.760 And how old were you when this

00:47:50.300 happened?

00:47:51.000 First time that happened I was 18.

00:47:53.180 And it's a very interesting story.

00:47:56.780 I wrote a book some years ago called

00:47:58.380 Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge,

00:48:00.480 which is kind of a story about my life,

00:48:03.040 how I got involved with this.

00:48:05.120 And before I was in college, when I was

00:48:09.340 a senior in high school, I got very sick

00:48:12.320 and had a near-death experience.

00:48:14.520 And I was raised in a scientific family

00:48:19.820 where, you know, if it didn't fit into a

00:48:22.140 test tube or whatever, it didn't exist.

00:48:24.380 So I was raised in an atheist, scientific,

00:48:28.300 reductionist family.

00:48:31.020 So I didn't have any belief systems about

00:48:33.500 the pearly gates and the this and the that.

00:48:35.660 Nevertheless, the truth is what it is.

00:48:38.400 I got very sick.

00:48:40.340 I died.

00:48:41.240 I had a near-death experience.

00:48:42.660 Obviously came back to life.

00:48:45.080 But in that process, had this amazing

00:48:47.160 experience with what mystical literature

00:48:50.740 would call cosmic consciousness or that

00:48:53.260 state of oneness with the conscious being

00:48:56.280 of the cosmos.

00:48:57.960 And I was out in space when this happened

00:49:01.660 because I had a great love for the earth

00:49:03.680 and space.

00:49:04.520 I didn't really care about the religious

00:49:06.840 traditions because I wasn't raised that way.

00:49:10.040 And that experience taught me that I

00:49:12.960 really needed to understand what

00:49:14.460 consciousness was, what the light of

00:49:17.120 consciousness within us is.

00:49:19.680 So I began on my 18th birthday,

00:49:21.820 coincidentally, I learned meditation

00:49:24.260 and then went off to college.

00:49:27.880 So I'm up in North Carolina.

00:49:29.860 I'm up in the Blue Ridge Mountains.

00:49:31.320 I hike up this mountain and I'm

00:49:33.000 meditating a little before sunset.

00:49:35.880 But just before I close my eyes, I look out

00:49:38.300 and the same spacecraft that I saw when I

00:49:41.360 was a child, eight or nine years of age,

00:49:46.100 appeared again or it looked the same.

00:49:48.380 And it appeared, it materialized and

00:49:50.480 dematerialized.

00:49:51.200 It didn't just fly in and out like you see

00:49:52.660 an airplane.

00:49:53.700 And I went, oh, that's interesting.

00:49:55.040 They're back.

00:49:55.880 You know, I didn't think more about it.

00:49:57.500 I sat down and meditated.

00:49:59.000 And at the end of the meditation, it lasted

00:50:02.420 very long.

00:50:03.600 It had gotten quite dark and I'm up over

00:50:05.540 5,000 feet up in the Blue Ridge.

00:50:07.380 And it's very clear in October of 73.

00:50:10.420 And I look up in the beautiful Milky

00:50:12.740 Ways above and I then see that there's

00:50:15.520 this, to be honest with you, and I know

00:50:17.720 this sounds ridiculous, but you asked, I'll

00:50:20.380 tell you.

00:50:21.180 I thought it was a deer standing on its

00:50:23.520 hind legs, upright like a human, and had

00:50:26.960 these beautiful deer-like eyes.

00:50:29.020 And then I realized it wasn't a deer.

00:50:31.320 I was very disoriented.

00:50:32.520 I said, what the hell is this?

00:50:34.100 It came over and touched me on my right

00:50:35.940 shoulder.

00:50:36.740 And actually so much, I had a ski jacket

00:50:38.560 on, I could see it indent and it touched

00:50:41.580 me and there was this electromagnetic field

00:50:43.580 that went around me.

00:50:44.900 Bang.

00:50:45.820 I vanished off the mountain and I was on

00:50:47.940 this craft or I don't know, maybe I'm

00:50:50.740 going to guess around three or four hours.

00:50:53.680 And that's what happened to me when I was

00:50:56.260 18.

00:50:56.760 I know it sounds like an unbelievable

00:50:57.920 story, but that led me into really

00:51:01.200 wanting to pursue how these civilizations

00:51:04.620 travel, how they communicate.

00:51:06.740 So in that experience, when I was on this

00:51:10.260 object, I did this meditative process

00:51:14.160 with these beings and created these close

00:51:18.100 encounters of the fifth kind protocols.

00:51:20.840 And I didn't do anything with it publicly

00:51:24.580 for many, many years.

00:51:25.880 That was in 73.

00:51:27.020 I didn't emerge, do anything public with

00:51:29.300 this until the early 90s.

00:51:31.560 But what I did do is I began to experiment

00:51:35.320 with it.

00:51:36.040 And every time I'd experiment with it,

00:51:38.480 where I was up in the mountains of North

00:51:41.820 Carolina, one of these objects would appear.

00:51:44.100 And I kind of got a little bit, I said, you

00:51:48.000 know, I don't think I should be doing this

00:51:49.320 unless I have a better reason.

00:51:51.140 So I stopped.

00:51:52.960 And in the movie, Close Encounters of

00:51:55.320 Fifth Kind, you'll see a couple years

00:51:56.480 later, I'm becoming a teacher of meditation.

00:51:59.340 This is before I went to medical school.

00:52:01.840 And I'm up in the Alps, in the French

00:52:04.380 Alps, in the Maritime Alps.

00:52:06.460 And one morning, I decide to do this technique.

00:52:09.180 So I go into quiet meditation.

00:52:11.540 I remote view where these ET objects are.

00:52:14.940 And I show them, reverse the process,

00:52:17.440 and show them where I am up in the Alps,

00:52:19.520 near Isola, France.

00:52:21.040 And that's it.

00:52:23.960 I do it for maybe an hour during a meditation.

00:52:26.660 I go out with some friends after lunch.

00:52:29.320 And this massive tetrahedron appears in the

00:52:34.140 crystal blue sky.

00:52:36.220 And in the documentary that's out now, Close

00:52:38.720 Encounters of Fifth Kind, a friend of mine

00:52:40.980 who was with me then, we were 19 years old,

00:52:43.560 maybe had turned 20, very young.

00:52:46.960 And this object appears and descends towards us.

00:52:52.320 And she goes, Steve, what did you do?

00:52:55.120 Did you contact?

00:52:55.840 I said, yes.

00:52:56.960 And of course, she's now freaking out, frankly.

00:52:59.200 I go, marry and relax.

00:53:00.880 They're fine.

00:53:01.500 They're just, you know.

00:53:02.540 But so that happened.

00:53:04.620 And then a couple years later, I tried it one more time.

00:53:08.020 And that event led to that case that is in the movie

00:53:11.740 with the police helicopter and the airline pilots

00:53:16.920 in Charlotte, North Carolina, that saw these objects

00:53:19.340 after I engaged in that protocol again.

00:53:22.380 So I began, I experimented with it periodically,

00:53:25.360 but didn't formalize a project around it until 1990,

00:53:30.180 about 30 years ago.

00:53:31.380 So let me ask you, at that time,

00:53:33.520 were you at all using recreational drugs, LSD?

00:53:38.580 No, I've never, never, ever have done any of those things.

00:53:42.860 Never have used any of those things.

00:53:44.140 Okay, so then when you had that cosmic moment,

00:53:46.160 how do you know that wasn't a dream

00:53:48.440 and it was a real moment?

00:53:51.200 How do you, you're a pretty smart guy.

00:53:53.000 You're a well-read person.

00:53:54.280 You're not somebody that just jumps to,

00:53:56.560 how do you differentiate it?

00:53:58.100 But maybe it was just a dream that I had

00:53:59.720 because we've had some wild dreams in our lives.

00:54:01.960 Well, if you talk to neurosurgeons and other doctors

00:54:04.840 who've dealt with patients who've died

00:54:06.380 and they've been resuscitated,

00:54:08.040 it's an unmistakable experience

00:54:09.900 where you go above and out of your body and out

00:54:13.160 and can observe things.

00:54:15.640 You know, I mean, I guess if somebody is hellbent

00:54:18.440 on not believing this is possible,

00:54:20.440 you can explain it any way you wish.

00:54:22.800 But there's too much evidence around that.

00:54:25.220 And ultimately, I know what I experienced.

00:54:27.420 It was certainly not a dream.

00:54:29.240 Now, I have had lucid dreams

00:54:32.060 of the future and things like that.

00:54:34.660 I mean, you know, I think this is very common in society.

00:54:37.740 People have a dream and the next day

00:54:39.660 or a year later, it happens.

00:54:41.620 I met actually my wife that way,

00:54:43.360 a series of lucid dreams.

00:54:45.820 But I think that that it has the ability

00:54:49.000 with the development of consciousness and meditation.

00:54:51.960 The more people are in touch with the meditative state

00:54:55.880 and develop these conscious abilities,

00:54:58.880 the more those things spontaneously happen.

00:55:01.340 But the truth is,

00:55:04.620 every person who is sentient and conscious

00:55:08.100 has these abilities within them,

00:55:10.980 which is why when you do a poll of the public,

00:55:13.860 huge percentage of the public have had

00:55:16.220 precognitive dreams, lucid dreams of the future,

00:55:21.240 maybe episodic telepathic episodes.

00:55:24.440 And a large number of people have had

00:55:26.340 a near-death experience where they recount

00:55:28.260 a similar pattern of events that occur.

00:55:32.880 Do you believe in God?

00:55:35.280 Well, it's a freighted word, isn't it, God?

00:55:38.060 I believe in the great spirit,

00:55:41.460 the unbounded being, you call it God.

00:55:44.240 When you use the word God in our society,

00:55:46.800 it conjures up an angry man up on a cloud

00:55:49.740 throwing lightning bolts down on people.

00:55:51.640 Creator.

00:55:52.160 Do you believe in a creator?

00:55:53.540 Do you believe there is a creator?

00:55:54.520 Oh, absolutely, yes.

00:55:55.540 Oh, you absolutely believe in a creator, okay.

00:55:58.060 I didn't.

00:55:58.800 I didn't when I was younger

00:56:00.100 because we were, I mean,

00:56:01.460 we were very devout atheists.

00:56:03.940 When did that happen?

00:56:05.180 When did you come from?

00:56:05.980 Was that around the same time, 1819,

00:56:07.540 or was it past that?

00:56:09.280 When I had the near-death experience.

00:56:11.520 I mean, that-

00:56:12.060 That's when you believed in a creator.

00:56:13.920 Well, because I experienced that state, yeah.

00:56:16.680 So experiencing that state

00:56:18.340 is different from, you know,

00:56:21.540 the catechisms of reading a Bible or something.

00:56:24.780 I think, you know,

00:56:26.020 I always tell people,

00:56:27.240 the great teacher is experience.

00:56:29.680 And the foundation of science, by the way,

00:56:31.740 is empiricism, observation, experience.

00:56:35.160 So if you experience something like that,

00:56:38.100 that goes a lot further than having a priest dictate to you

00:56:41.700 what you should believe or not.

00:56:43.920 So I'm not diminished priests at all.

00:56:46.580 I'm just saying that ultimately,

00:56:48.140 it's what people can experience

00:56:49.760 and prove and know for themselves,

00:56:51.880 which is one of the reasons people say,

00:56:53.460 oh, what you're saying sounds unbelievable.

00:56:54.780 I said, well, go out and try this

00:56:56.860 and see if something happens.

00:56:59.000 I really am an empiricist.

00:57:01.100 I think people need to rely on their own ability

00:57:05.240 to discover what the truth is

00:57:07.240 and not rely on myself or any other expert

00:57:12.060 to tell them what they should or shouldn't believe.

00:57:15.800 I just think people should engage in self-discovery

00:57:19.220 and discovery in the world.

00:57:21.540 You speak in absolutes.

00:57:23.540 Are you more absolute that God exists

00:57:26.600 or more absolute that extraterrestrials exist?

00:57:30.600 I don't think it's an either or question.

00:57:32.560 I'm confident that both do.

00:57:35.900 You're confident that both do.

00:57:37.320 Okay.

00:57:38.960 That's good to know.

00:57:39.880 Is there any doubt that you may be wrong?

00:57:42.300 Do you have any doubt where...

00:57:43.540 Well, there are a lot of things I don't know,

00:57:47.900 but the things I do know I'll talk about

00:57:50.260 is because I know them.

00:57:51.560 You know, I talk about things

00:57:52.640 that I have personal knowledge of

00:57:54.260 as opposed to things that are second, third, fourth hand.

00:57:58.900 So if you look at this subject on the internet,

00:58:01.480 there's all kinds of wild theories

00:58:05.440 based on fourth hand conjectures.

00:58:08.440 I don't engage in that.

00:58:09.840 The things that my team and I have experienced directly,

00:58:13.920 we know we've experienced.

00:58:15.840 And if you look at this documentary,

00:58:18.400 there's this wonderful story,

00:58:19.880 you may recall it from the movie,

00:58:22.080 where this older gentleman

00:58:24.940 who had had a hearing loss since he was very young,

00:58:28.640 I think since middle school, high school.

00:58:30.360 And we were up in Arizona a couple years ago

00:58:33.200 doing the CE5 contact protocols.

00:58:36.920 And there was an ET that came in

00:58:40.540 faster than the speed of light zoom.

00:58:43.280 There've been these objects up above us

00:58:45.120 and we have photos and videos of,

00:58:48.320 and this suddenly we heard something behind us.

00:58:51.500 So a man who was on the team with me

00:58:54.140 named David Marconi,

00:58:55.500 who wrote the screenplay for Enemy of the State

00:58:58.480 that Will Smith was in.

00:59:00.080 So he had some great cameras.

00:59:02.260 So he swung it around

00:59:03.480 because I said,

00:59:04.480 look, there's something right over here.

00:59:06.120 Yeah.

00:59:06.920 And he took a photo as we heard this.

00:59:11.080 And there's this ET,

00:59:13.640 this extraterrestrial about five, six feet tall

00:59:16.420 between a medical student who's on our team

00:59:19.800 and this man who had lost his hearing.

00:59:22.960 And the man,

00:59:25.180 after this happened,

00:59:26.900 continue having a contact

00:59:28.640 with this ET throughout that evening.

00:59:31.300 And the next morning he woke up

00:59:33.040 and this 40 or 50 year long hearing loss

00:59:37.080 had been completely reversed

00:59:39.320 because he had asked that to happen.

00:59:41.980 Now, you know,

00:59:42.540 that story is,

00:59:43.640 you would say,

00:59:44.080 well, it's apocryphal,

00:59:45.360 but it's in the documentary.

00:59:48.320 The photograph is in the documentary.

00:59:50.700 of the experiences in there.

00:59:52.960 Now, there's a lot behind what happened

00:59:55.020 in terms of what we did

00:59:57.040 to set up the conditions for that event.

01:00:00.540 But I've been present

01:00:01.860 at several thousand events like that.

01:00:05.720 So this is what makes me say,

01:00:08.860 you know,

01:00:09.260 what I and other people with me have seen

01:00:12.740 and documented and photographed

01:00:14.620 that I am very confident about.

01:00:17.040 There's a lot of other things

01:00:18.260 that are out there

01:00:19.020 that are conjecture

01:00:20.660 that I try to steer away from.

01:00:23.220 Yeah.

01:00:23.660 And by the way,

01:00:24.220 you know,

01:00:25.400 you could tell the man

01:00:27.040 who was able to hear again

01:00:28.620 when he got emotional.

01:00:29.740 I mean,

01:00:30.360 either he's an incredible actor

01:00:31.620 and he belongs in Hollywood

01:00:32.540 or you just could feel

01:00:34.160 the level of sincerity he had.

01:00:35.820 You know,

01:00:36.400 Doc,

01:00:37.120 obviously you're not alone.

01:00:38.060 When you look at the stats,

01:00:38.980 33% of U.S. adults

01:00:40.520 believe that some UFO sightings

01:00:42.340 over the years

01:00:42.900 have in fact been alien spacecraft

01:00:45.220 visiting Earth

01:00:46.000 from other planets or galaxies.

01:00:47.620 33% is one third.

01:00:49.440 That's a pretty big number.

01:00:51.500 And then you have,

01:00:52.560 even as most Americans

01:00:53.900 are skeptical

01:00:54.460 that aliens have visited Earth,

01:00:55.980 the majority,

01:00:56.580 56% believe

01:00:57.640 that those who spot UFOs

01:00:59.200 are seeing something real,

01:01:00.900 not just imagining it.

01:01:02.460 So I'm a skeptic.

01:01:04.740 I'm not coming from a place of

01:01:06.400 I'm on one side or another side,

01:01:08.660 but for me,

01:01:09.320 I haven't had some

01:01:10.140 of the experiences

01:01:10.840 that you've had

01:01:11.620 and you're not somebody

01:01:13.200 that just all of a sudden,

01:01:14.940 you know,

01:01:15.960 you're a conspiracy person

01:01:19.160 that's just going out there

01:01:20.120 saying this.

01:01:20.680 You're somebody

01:01:21.080 that's a medical doctor.

01:01:22.140 You're somebody

01:01:22.600 that's briefed

01:01:23.860 and spoken at Pentagon.

01:01:25.260 You're somebody

01:01:25.720 that's gotten information

01:01:27.440 out there.

01:01:28.980 This kind of leads me

01:01:30.220 to the next part.

01:01:31.080 when you're thinking

01:01:32.720 about aliens to us,

01:01:35.600 we think about aliens

01:01:37.060 looking like the aliens

01:01:38.680 in movies, right?

01:01:40.080 We think about them

01:01:41.180 with the eyes

01:01:41.880 and how they look,

01:01:42.720 all that stuff.

01:01:44.060 From your experience,

01:01:45.300 you said looking like a deer,

01:01:47.520 six feet tall,

01:01:48.560 touched your right shoulder.

01:01:50.260 What?

01:01:50.500 If you've seen them,

01:01:51.420 what do aliens look like?

01:01:52.700 Well, before I answer that,

01:01:55.640 just remember this.

01:01:56.920 Every stable star system

01:01:58.580 has planets around it

01:02:02.360 and the number

01:02:04.160 of intelligent civilizations

01:02:07.120 that are estimated

01:02:08.780 to just be in our own galaxy

01:02:11.160 number in the millions.

01:02:13.660 Let me repeat that.

01:02:14.960 And we're one galaxy

01:02:16.040 out of trillions of galaxies.

01:02:19.040 So what I'm going to say then

01:02:21.500 is that in our experience,

01:02:23.680 and I'm just dealing with

01:02:24.740 the 30 years my team

01:02:26.080 has gone out doing this,

01:02:27.820 we have had sightings

01:02:29.740 and encounters

01:02:30.540 and with almost the full gamut

01:02:34.580 of types of life forms.

01:02:37.340 For example, in the movie,

01:02:38.560 there's this one image

01:02:39.800 of a being that's about

01:02:41.880 two feet tall

01:02:43.420 on a beach in Florida.

01:02:45.360 And it looks like,

01:02:47.160 almost like a hologram,

01:02:48.580 but it's this crystalline figure

01:02:50.280 that looks like it has

01:02:51.380 a halo.

01:02:52.100 It's actually a toroidal energy,

01:02:54.320 a donut-shaped energy field

01:02:55.760 around it.

01:02:57.100 And that being was standing

01:02:59.460 in front of us

01:03:00.260 as we were setting up

01:03:01.200 our team on the beach

01:03:02.200 at near Boca Grande

01:03:03.240 in Florida

01:03:04.060 on the West Coast,

01:03:06.140 the Gulf Coast.

01:03:07.880 But that being was

01:03:09.560 maybe at the most

01:03:11.500 two feet tall.

01:03:12.960 There are others

01:03:13.680 that we have documented

01:03:14.580 that are over

01:03:15.200 eight to ten feet tall.

01:03:17.180 There are different shapes.

01:03:18.140 So the caricature

01:03:19.520 you see in Hollywood movies

01:03:22.980 and in most UFO stuff,

01:03:25.000 that's just almost like

01:03:26.040 a racist caricature.

01:03:29.080 It's sort of a joke.

01:03:30.460 And nobody in the intelligence

01:03:31.940 community takes those seriously.

01:03:34.240 And this is part of the problem

01:03:35.820 because the mythology

01:03:37.520 on this subject

01:03:38.520 is the dominant database

01:03:40.400 that's out there.

01:03:41.380 And the facts about the subject

01:03:43.100 are the hardest to find.

01:03:44.400 So we're trying to get

01:03:46.200 some clarity on that.

01:03:48.020 But yes, you're quite correct.

01:03:49.540 There are the ones,

01:03:50.420 the image of the bug-eyed looking,

01:03:53.320 that's sort of your

01:03:54.340 kind of stereotypical being.

01:03:58.840 And there are a couple of species

01:04:00.700 that may look somewhat like that.

01:04:03.200 But it is by no means

01:04:04.960 what most or all of them do.

01:04:07.660 And my own understanding

01:04:09.800 from the experiences I've had

01:04:11.400 with these ETs

01:04:12.840 and with people

01:04:13.840 who are in the intelligence community

01:04:15.420 who work this subject

01:04:17.060 and classify programs

01:04:18.560 is that none of them are hostile,

01:04:21.820 and they all have different levels

01:04:24.040 of development.

01:04:26.720 But in order for them

01:04:28.600 to have gone interstellar

01:04:30.240 and have that kind

01:04:32.080 of technological capability

01:04:33.900 where you're moving

01:04:35.380 from point A to B

01:04:36.580 across thousands or millions

01:04:38.560 of light years of space,

01:04:39.880 that technological capability

01:04:42.480 means that your society

01:04:45.020 has evolved past where we are,

01:04:48.160 where our sciences

01:04:49.620 and technologies

01:04:50.580 could be our undoing

01:04:53.060 if we use them for war.

01:04:55.660 And I always mention to people

01:04:58.240 that this is one of the reasons

01:05:00.360 why civilizations

01:05:02.240 that can evolve

01:05:03.620 to that level of technology,

01:05:05.120 if they haven't gotten

01:05:06.520 their social

01:05:07.340 and not religious per se,

01:05:09.960 but spiritual inner development

01:05:11.720 high enough,

01:05:14.740 the technologies

01:05:15.680 are going to be used

01:05:16.420 to destroy their own society

01:05:18.020 like we almost have.

01:05:19.640 So these civilizations

01:05:21.140 are very advanced

01:05:23.040 intellectually,

01:05:24.900 socially,

01:05:26.000 spiritually,

01:05:26.860 and technologically.

01:05:29.260 But the technology

01:05:30.440 in and of itself

01:05:31.340 isn't the answer.

01:05:32.520 If you have very advanced technology,

01:05:34.160 but you're still running around

01:05:35.360 like a bunch of marauding chimpanzees,

01:05:37.840 you're going to kill yourself

01:05:39.120 and everyone on the planet

01:05:40.340 because you're not talking

01:05:41.700 about just technologies

01:05:43.940 as dangerous

01:05:44.920 as a hydrogen bomb.

01:05:46.180 You're talking about technologies

01:05:47.400 that are orders of magnitude

01:05:48.780 more powerful

01:05:49.580 to transfer a spacecraft

01:05:51.720 from point A to B

01:05:52.960 across space-time.

01:05:55.020 So when you look at that,

01:05:57.500 you kind of realize

01:05:58.700 that we're dealing with

01:05:59.800 extraordinarily advanced civilizations

01:06:03.460 that have both innate

01:06:05.960 mental abilities,

01:06:07.580 intellectual,

01:06:08.960 let's call it telepathic,

01:06:10.580 and other,

01:06:11.520 but their technologies

01:06:12.640 are also awesome, frankly,

01:06:16.300 when you observe these things

01:06:17.680 and how they move.

01:06:19.020 If you look at this documentary,

01:06:20.480 The Close Encounters

01:06:21.140 of the Fifth Kind,

01:06:22.140 you'll see the object

01:06:23.400 that will be here

01:06:24.200 and almost instantly

01:06:25.440 it instantly compares here.

01:06:28.020 And these are during

01:06:29.180 our CE5 events.

01:06:30.920 And people go,

01:06:31.580 what?

01:06:31.840 I'm going, yes,

01:06:33.120 they're not moving

01:06:33.840 in a straight line.

01:06:35.580 And I remind people,

01:06:36.640 one of our disclosure project

01:06:38.280 witnesses was the man,

01:06:40.840 the chief investigator

01:06:42.020 for the federal government,

01:06:44.300 the FAA,

01:06:46.080 John Callahan.

01:06:47.620 And there was a case

01:06:49.060 in the 80s

01:06:50.360 where a Japan airline

01:06:53.000 747 heavy cargo jet

01:06:55.380 was going from Paris

01:06:56.900 to Tokyo

01:06:57.820 over the Polar route.

01:06:59.280 And over Alaska,

01:07:01.500 there was a UFO

01:07:03.140 that appeared

01:07:03.760 the size of a battleship.

01:07:05.540 Huge.

01:07:06.460 And it would appear

01:07:07.380 at, you know,

01:07:08.180 nine o'clock

01:07:08.980 and then instantaneously

01:07:12.080 in less than one radar sweep

01:07:13.620 be hundreds of miles away

01:07:15.960 the opposite side.

01:07:17.620 And it moved non-linearly.

01:07:19.520 In other words,

01:07:19.960 not in a line.

01:07:20.540 It would be here

01:07:21.020 and then here.

01:07:21.660 We have,

01:07:23.300 I have in my archive,

01:07:25.080 the original FAA radar tape

01:07:28.380 of this

01:07:28.860 that John Callahan

01:07:30.440 handed off to me.

01:07:31.860 The CIA felt

01:07:33.020 they took it from his office.

01:07:34.940 He gave them a copy.

01:07:36.380 I have the original.

01:07:37.760 And we have

01:07:38.400 the pilot statement.

01:07:39.880 We have the account

01:07:41.560 of the jet fighters

01:07:42.580 that were scrambled.

01:07:43.680 And we have

01:07:44.260 the radar tracing.

01:07:46.080 So I tell people

01:07:47.060 the content

01:07:48.160 that we have

01:07:49.280 is orders of magnitude

01:07:51.400 more significant

01:07:52.300 than the footage

01:07:53.420 you're seeing on CNN.

01:07:55.180 And you have to ask the question,

01:07:56.580 why isn't CNN

01:07:57.960 and Fox News

01:07:58.920 doing that story?

01:08:00.160 That goes back

01:08:00.760 to Project Mockingbird

01:08:01.740 you were talking about.

01:08:02.780 But let me stay on this.

01:08:04.200 I'm a math guy.

01:08:05.060 So for me,

01:08:06.100 and by the way,

01:08:07.760 what's weird

01:08:08.640 is I grew up

01:08:09.260 as a Christian family

01:08:10.080 even though I was an atheist

01:08:10.800 for 25 years

01:08:11.620 and I'm a big skeptic.

01:08:12.640 So I'm somebody

01:08:13.540 that's when you live in Iran

01:08:15.420 and you see

01:08:15.820 what you see sometimes

01:08:16.740 it's hard to believe

01:08:17.440 there's a God,

01:08:19.120 a loving God

01:08:19.920 that wants everything

01:08:20.760 to be fine.

01:08:21.640 Yes, I understand that.

01:08:23.260 When I sit there

01:08:24.420 and I look at the math

01:08:26.320 and you look at galaxies,

01:08:27.900 how many are there?

01:08:28.640 And you look up,

01:08:29.640 you do a simple search,

01:08:31.560 200 billion

01:08:32.540 to 2 trillion

01:08:33.960 or more.

01:08:34.980 That's the number

01:08:35.600 that comes up.

01:08:36.360 200 billion

01:08:36.920 to 2 trillion

01:08:37.500 or more.

01:08:38.640 That we know of, yeah.

01:08:39.720 That we know of.

01:08:40.560 So it's naive to say,

01:08:42.200 oh, 100%

01:08:43.480 I know for,

01:08:44.060 there's no way

01:08:44.860 in the world

01:08:45.300 there's any aliens.

01:08:46.360 Well, what is an alien?

01:08:47.120 What is an extraterrestrial?

01:08:48.320 Is it the guy

01:08:48.700 that looks like in the movies?

01:08:50.120 We've only been around

01:08:50.960 for a few thousand years,

01:08:51.980 whether it's 6,000 years,

01:08:53.180 whatever number

01:08:53.700 you want to say

01:08:54.260 with humans

01:08:55.380 and mankind

01:08:56.000 and all these different numbers

01:08:57.180 that you read about.

01:08:58.160 It's kind of naive

01:08:59.220 to be arrogant

01:08:59.940 and to think

01:09:00.820 that somebody

01:09:01.600 in some civilization

01:09:03.280 may not be out there

01:09:04.360 or whatever

01:09:04.740 you want to talk about.

01:09:06.240 But the other part

01:09:07.620 is

01:09:08.080 with the link

01:09:09.880 between water

01:09:10.840 and sun,

01:09:12.100 the distance

01:09:12.760 for a galaxy

01:09:13.960 to be away

01:09:14.640 from the sun

01:09:15.240 and knowing the fact

01:09:16.560 that you're in this world.

01:09:17.400 I know I was reading

01:09:18.000 an article earlier

01:09:18.860 saying the fact

01:09:19.640 that NASA found

01:09:20.580 somewhere

01:09:22.980 a planet

01:09:23.900 that had water

01:09:25.520 4.5 billion years ago,

01:09:27.220 et cetera, et cetera.

01:09:27.840 I don't know

01:09:28.140 if you saw that article

01:09:28.960 or not.

01:09:29.880 So could there be

01:09:31.520 a possibility

01:09:32.520 or maybe you even know

01:09:34.120 this based on research

01:09:35.060 that there is

01:09:36.520 another planet

01:09:38.320 with people

01:09:39.400 that look like us humans

01:09:41.060 that, oh,

01:09:41.660 there's water,

01:09:42.980 there's people

01:09:43.680 that are building

01:09:44.320 similar stuff to us.

01:09:45.540 Is there any chance

01:09:46.460 that that could also exist?

01:09:48.500 Yes, I think it's very likely.

01:09:50.020 In fact,

01:09:50.360 one of the species

01:09:51.320 that we had a contact with

01:09:53.800 looked very similar

01:09:57.200 to humans.

01:09:59.240 And this is also

01:10:00.860 in the documentary.

01:10:02.040 It was an ET

01:10:03.120 that appeared

01:10:03.920 in the desert

01:10:06.040 at Joshua Tree National Park

01:10:07.800 with our team.

01:10:09.360 And a person

01:10:10.620 right beside me

01:10:11.640 took a photograph

01:10:12.960 of this being

01:10:15.640 and he actually looks

01:10:17.960 very similar

01:10:19.360 to a human

01:10:19.980 with a receding hairline.

01:10:22.280 And the information

01:10:25.080 we got from him

01:10:26.800 was that he was

01:10:27.480 from the Andromeda galaxy,

01:10:29.260 which is about

01:10:30.140 two and a half million

01:10:31.000 light years from Earth,

01:10:32.680 which is a twin galaxy

01:10:34.320 to the Milky Way.

01:10:35.320 It's a spiral galaxy.

01:10:37.260 How many miles away?

01:10:38.680 2.5 million light years.

01:10:41.160 So he has like

01:10:41.920 the ultimate Uber

01:10:42.780 to get on

01:10:44.260 and figure out

01:10:44.760 a way to get over here.

01:10:45.840 Yeah, but here's

01:10:46.900 the thing to remember.

01:10:47.900 If you're not dealing

01:10:48.780 with linear,

01:10:49.800 distance doesn't matter

01:10:50.880 if you're dealing

01:10:52.940 with a non-local

01:10:54.300 teleportation

01:10:56.380 and communication system.

01:10:57.680 So distance only matters

01:10:59.520 when you're locked

01:11:00.360 into the linear box

01:11:02.720 of space-time.

01:11:03.640 When your technologies

01:11:05.160 are advanced enough,

01:11:07.800 what happens is that

01:11:09.120 an entire spacecraft,

01:11:10.720 it would be enormous,

01:11:12.220 can actually resonantly

01:11:14.120 shift into what

01:11:15.480 some people call

01:11:16.240 another dimension,

01:11:17.660 another field of energy,

01:11:19.460 bypass linear space-time

01:11:21.180 and reappear

01:11:22.620 or rematerialize

01:11:24.020 in another point.

01:11:25.040 And that's actually

01:11:25.980 how they're happening.

01:11:27.280 Now, if you look

01:11:28.260 at the science behind,

01:11:30.140 there have been

01:11:30.720 particle teleportation

01:11:32.260 experiences of that

01:11:34.080 physicist and experiments.

01:11:36.200 But we're talking

01:11:37.500 doing this on a macro level

01:11:38.960 with an entire spacecraft

01:11:40.500 and everyone on board it.

01:11:42.240 But again,

01:11:43.020 we're dealing with

01:11:43.600 civilizations that are

01:11:45.100 10 to the 6th,

01:11:47.200 10 to the 9th years,

01:11:48.960 100,000 to millions

01:11:50.700 of years more developed

01:11:52.120 than we are.

01:11:53.280 And if you were to go back,

01:11:54.420 I think part of this

01:11:55.300 is human hubris

01:11:56.700 that we think that we're

01:11:58.240 at the apex of technology.

01:11:59.660 If you were to go back

01:12:00.960 down the road

01:12:01.780 from where I'm sitting here

01:12:02.960 is Thomas Jefferson's home.

01:12:05.280 So if I were to go back

01:12:06.720 in time and show

01:12:07.640 Thomas Jefferson

01:12:08.800 my smartphone,

01:12:10.620 well, you might be

01:12:11.680 burned at the stake

01:12:12.360 as a witch.

01:12:12.860 It would look like magic.

01:12:15.220 So almost anything

01:12:16.620 we have today,

01:12:18.260 if you show that

01:12:19.200 to someone from

01:12:19.980 2,000 years ago,

01:12:21.140 the time of the birth

01:12:21.960 of Christ,

01:12:23.380 you'd be lucky

01:12:24.100 if you weren't burned

01:12:25.300 as a witch

01:12:26.000 or a sorcerer.

01:12:26.900 It would look like magic.

01:12:28.280 Now, let's extrapolate

01:12:29.880 where we've come

01:12:31.340 just in the last

01:12:32.060 100 or 200 years

01:12:33.320 of the technological

01:12:34.700 industrial revolution.

01:12:36.340 Let's extrapolate out

01:12:37.860 100,000,

01:12:39.540 200,000,

01:12:40.660 a million,

01:12:41.800 10 million,

01:12:42.780 a billion years.

01:12:44.300 So in a universe

01:12:45.980 that's at least

01:12:46.620 13 to 15 billion years old,

01:12:50.120 it's a certainty

01:12:51.780 that there are civilizations

01:12:53.060 that are that many

01:12:54.520 orders of magnitude

01:12:55.560 more developed

01:12:56.300 than we are.

01:12:56.960 And so I think

01:12:58.200 this gets back

01:12:59.400 to this importance

01:13:00.920 of scientific empiricism,

01:13:03.660 observation of facts,

01:13:05.340 because what we have

01:13:06.940 happen,

01:13:07.900 it happens in society

01:13:09.340 all the time,

01:13:10.380 if someone observes

01:13:12.300 something that doesn't

01:13:13.660 conform with the paradigm,

01:13:15.760 they are pilloried

01:13:17.660 and they are thrown

01:13:18.880 out of society.

01:13:20.700 I'll give you an example.

01:13:21.880 Right here at the

01:13:22.380 University of Virginia

01:13:23.340 some years ago,

01:13:24.600 a brilliant doctor

01:13:25.720 discovered that

01:13:27.440 there was a type

01:13:28.200 of bacterium

01:13:29.040 that was responsible

01:13:30.920 for a lot of the worst

01:13:32.240 bleeding ulcers

01:13:33.380 in stomachs.

01:13:34.620 But because that ran

01:13:36.000 against the medical paradigm

01:13:37.500 of it all being

01:13:39.340 caused of acid

01:13:40.340 and this and that,

01:13:42.000 he had to leave America

01:13:43.160 and ended up in Australia.

01:13:45.460 Now,

01:13:46.040 if you don't test,

01:13:47.060 if you have a patient

01:13:47.800 with a bleeding ulcer

01:13:48.700 and you don't test

01:13:50.180 for this bacterium,

01:13:51.540 because if it's there,

01:13:52.400 it's easily treated

01:13:53.240 with doxycycline.

01:13:54.760 If you don't test

01:13:55.680 for that,

01:13:56.020 it's medical malpractice.

01:13:57.700 But his life

01:13:58.740 was ruined

01:13:59.320 and his reputation

01:14:00.800 was ruined

01:14:01.600 because he dare

01:14:02.980 speak the heresy

01:14:04.900 of an observed

01:14:06.680 fact

01:14:07.660 that ran against

01:14:09.000 scientific orthodoxy.

01:14:11.580 And what I'm saying

01:14:12.900 to the public is

01:14:13.820 the facts on this issue

01:14:15.660 are there.

01:14:17.120 They have to be

01:14:18.160 recognized as facts.

01:14:20.100 Maybe if you could come

01:14:22.340 to a different conclusion

01:14:23.260 than I have,

01:14:24.660 but as Senator

01:14:25.840 Daniel Patrick Moynihan said,

01:14:28.280 everyone's entitled

01:14:29.120 to their own opinion

01:14:30.180 but not their own

01:14:31.200 set of facts.

01:14:32.420 So the facts

01:14:33.700 that we need

01:14:34.260 to deal with

01:14:35.040 empirically

01:14:36.180 as observed

01:14:37.860 phenomenon

01:14:38.860 have to be

01:14:39.860 accounted for.

01:14:40.520 Now,

01:14:40.700 if our scientific

01:14:41.600 paradigm

01:14:43.040 doesn't quite account

01:14:44.300 for all the strange

01:14:45.700 things that are observed,

01:14:47.260 it doesn't mean

01:14:48.060 it's not legitimate.

01:14:49.160 It just means

01:14:49.780 our science

01:14:50.820 is very early.

01:14:52.200 We're only in

01:14:52.840 the first

01:14:53.420 couple hundred years

01:14:55.240 of any real level

01:14:56.620 of scientific

01:14:57.420 rigor.

01:14:59.520 And so

01:15:00.020 there needs to be

01:15:01.340 some degree

01:15:02.020 of humility

01:15:02.620 on the part

01:15:03.260 of humans

01:15:04.260 about the fact

01:15:06.040 that we are

01:15:06.540 sort of one half

01:15:07.820 of one step

01:15:08.480 out of the jungle

01:15:09.200 as a species,

01:15:11.120 but we're already

01:15:12.280 dealing with

01:15:13.200 advanced civilizations

01:15:14.460 that are several

01:15:15.720 orders of magnitude

01:15:17.000 past where we are.

01:15:18.420 And that's okay.

01:15:19.240 I mean,

01:15:19.580 this is how

01:15:20.020 civilizations evolved.

01:15:22.380 I think you make

01:15:23.900 a very good point

01:15:24.520 to say if we were

01:15:25.360 to go back

01:15:25.940 2,000 years ago

01:15:27.100 and show it an iPhone

01:15:27.880 what they would react

01:15:28.880 to and what happens

01:15:30.240 if we go 1,000 years,

01:15:31.560 100,000 years,

01:15:32.780 I don't even know

01:15:33.420 if we're going to

01:15:33.840 make it that long

01:15:34.580 out because of

01:15:35.460 the fact that we

01:15:36.760 may have too much

01:15:37.600 divisiveness

01:15:38.280 and going at each other.

01:15:39.300 But teleporting,

01:15:40.440 you said the fact

01:15:41.140 that, you know,

01:15:42.000 how they teleport.

01:15:42.840 Obviously,

01:15:43.160 you see that in movies

01:15:43.980 and you wonder,

01:15:46.000 can we one day

01:15:46.660 have that technology?

01:15:47.740 Who knows?

01:15:48.160 Maybe Warren Buffett

01:15:49.140 sold his shares

01:15:50.020 in airlines

01:15:50.540 because he thinks

01:15:51.380 teleporting is the

01:15:52.280 next phenomenon

01:15:53.380 that we haven't

01:15:53.940 experienced yet.

01:15:55.180 Actually,

01:15:55.820 classified projects

01:15:57.180 have already done

01:15:57.780 what you're suggesting.

01:15:59.300 Classified projects

01:16:00.200 have already done

01:16:00.820 teleporting?

01:16:01.800 Yes.

01:16:04.300 That's intense.

01:16:05.960 Do you know

01:16:06.780 if a human

01:16:08.520 has ever had sex

01:16:09.360 with an alien?

01:16:10.540 I do not know

01:16:11.600 and nor do I want to know.

01:16:13.520 I asked that question

01:16:14.500 for a different reason.

01:16:15.720 I asked that question

01:16:16.280 for a different reason.

01:16:17.140 I seriously doubt it.

01:16:18.600 Okay.

01:16:19.000 Yeah.

01:16:19.240 I asked that because

01:16:20.040 I wonder when you're saying,

01:16:22.100 you know,

01:16:22.780 the person that had

01:16:25.760 a hairline,

01:16:26.380 you know,

01:16:26.640 receding hairline

01:16:27.500 and he looked like,

01:16:30.200 even the topic

01:16:34.560 got me coughing here

01:16:35.640 with human seven six

01:16:37.160 with alien kids.

01:16:39.360 Almost reminded me

01:16:42.840 of the movie Avatar.

01:16:43.860 You know,

01:16:44.080 in Avatar,

01:16:44.580 how the guy falls in love

01:16:45.660 with the alien.

01:16:46.320 I don't know if you've seen

01:16:46.900 the movie Avatar.

01:16:49.560 But I wonder

01:16:50.680 if there was any stories there.

01:16:52.000 So what are your thoughts

01:16:53.120 about Area 51?

01:16:55.440 Well,

01:16:55.900 you know,

01:16:56.160 that's a grid name.

01:16:58.260 So the actual proper name

01:17:00.600 is the Nevada Test Range

01:17:02.460 and Nellis Air Force Base.

01:17:04.860 And to be specific,

01:17:06.520 in what the pop culture

01:17:08.560 calls Area 51,

01:17:10.140 nobody in my circle

01:17:11.500 calls it that.

01:17:12.540 The key names are

01:17:13.680 S3,

01:17:15.140 S4,

01:17:16.000 S9,

01:17:16.740 S12,

01:17:18.100 Groom Lake,

01:17:19.040 Pahut Mesa.

01:17:20.060 So there are two parts

01:17:22.320 of that operation.

01:17:24.140 The ones that,

01:17:25.840 there's part of it

01:17:26.820 that is the energy transfer part,

01:17:29.900 where they are studying

01:17:32.920 retrieved extraterrestrial vehicles

01:17:35.780 that we have,

01:17:36.860 when we have these,

01:17:38.460 and studying

01:17:39.540 how they operate,

01:17:41.560 all the different systems.

01:17:43.220 And then there's

01:17:43.940 another part of it

01:17:45.360 where they are building up

01:17:47.120 human,

01:17:48.820 let's call it

01:17:49.580 reverse engineered,

01:17:50.820 as close as we can get,

01:17:52.460 versions of those.

01:17:53.720 So there are two

01:17:54.880 sets of operations.

01:17:57.200 There are almost

01:17:58.000 no contact

01:17:59.680 between the people

01:18:00.980 in the DUM,

01:18:02.600 the deep underground

01:18:03.360 military base

01:18:04.440 where the ET craft

01:18:05.920 are held

01:18:06.700 that are working

01:18:07.760 on the other.

01:18:08.740 There's sort of

01:18:09.320 a firewall,

01:18:11.140 but things are transferred,

01:18:12.500 but the people

01:18:13.000 working on the one

01:18:13.860 are not just going

01:18:14.840 back and forth.

01:18:16.180 I know men

01:18:17.340 who've worked on both.

01:18:19.040 I also know

01:18:20.520 the Air Force Office

01:18:22.880 of Special Investigations

01:18:24.540 officer

01:18:25.980 who investigated

01:18:27.200 one of these

01:18:28.220 objects

01:18:29.160 we were test flying

01:18:30.240 that was actually

01:18:31.560 an ET object,

01:18:33.500 but we couldn't figure

01:18:34.200 out the energy system

01:18:35.320 properly,

01:18:35.840 so we put on

01:18:36.440 a portable

01:18:37.000 nuclear power plant

01:18:40.260 on it

01:18:40.720 that unfortunately

01:18:41.640 had a malfunction,

01:18:42.760 and it went down

01:18:43.500 over the outskirts

01:18:44.480 of Houston

01:18:45.080 and irradiated

01:18:46.600 a lot of civilians

01:18:47.540 there.

01:18:48.840 And this is called

01:18:50.260 the Cash Landrum case

01:18:51.680 if you want to Google it.

01:18:53.080 And this man

01:18:54.140 came forward

01:18:55.060 a couple years ago

01:18:56.620 and confirmed

01:18:58.280 that those were actually

01:19:00.040 four human pilots

01:19:01.960 trying to get

01:19:03.080 this ET object

01:19:04.480 to operate,

01:19:05.640 but they had

01:19:06.920 this power source

01:19:08.120 on it

01:19:08.540 that had a malfunction

01:19:09.660 that unfortunately

01:19:10.700 radiated the people

01:19:12.400 below.

01:19:12.880 And of course,

01:19:13.280 the military

01:19:13.720 denied knowledge

01:19:14.760 of it,

01:19:15.760 and in fact,

01:19:16.620 the people

01:19:17.040 who were approached

01:19:19.220 by both the media

01:19:20.780 and the public,

01:19:21.820 the injured parties

01:19:23.240 actually sued

01:19:24.020 the U.S. government,

01:19:25.160 and it got tossed out

01:19:26.240 because the government

01:19:26.700 said we have no knowledge

01:19:27.560 of that.

01:19:28.200 But the truth is

01:19:29.020 the ones who were being asked

01:19:30.440 did have no knowledge.

01:19:32.000 That's the nature

01:19:32.720 of a highly compartmented,

01:19:34.500 unacknowledged

01:19:35.260 special access project.

01:19:36.880 But that craft

01:19:38.040 that malfunctioned

01:19:39.360 over outside Houston,

01:19:41.340 I believe it was

01:19:42.040 in the early 80s,

01:19:43.260 that was from

01:19:44.280 the Nellis Range,

01:19:45.400 from the part

01:19:46.920 that had

01:19:47.400 the study group

01:19:49.300 that was working

01:19:50.080 on the ET object.

01:19:51.640 Now,

01:19:52.040 there are other facilities

01:19:52.980 that are actually

01:19:53.700 much more important

01:19:54.700 than that one

01:19:55.440 outside of Salt Lake City,

01:19:58.120 outside Provo.

01:19:58.900 There's something

01:19:59.400 called the Dugway

01:20:00.100 Proving Grounds,

01:20:01.380 and there's a very large

01:20:02.920 underground facility

01:20:03.880 there that my team

01:20:06.020 members have been to.

01:20:07.560 There's an underground

01:20:08.820 facility at Edwards

01:20:10.240 Air Force Base

01:20:11.160 and up in the

01:20:11.640 high desert of California

01:20:12.900 and near Palmdale

01:20:14.620 and Lancaster

01:20:15.420 and the Lockheed

01:20:16.900 Skunk Works,

01:20:17.940 and the really key

01:20:18.960 facilities there

01:20:19.940 are all also

01:20:21.420 underground.

01:20:21.900 underground.

01:20:23.020 And, you know,

01:20:23.760 so we know

01:20:24.440 where a number

01:20:25.560 of these facilities

01:20:26.620 are.

01:20:28.340 You know,

01:20:28.580 over the years

01:20:29.400 I've developed

01:20:30.360 relationships,

01:20:31.040 as I mentioned,

01:20:31.920 with hundreds

01:20:33.400 of people

01:20:34.140 who've worked

01:20:34.800 and are currently

01:20:35.720 working

01:20:36.200 in those facilities

01:20:37.500 who give us

01:20:38.120 information.

01:20:39.200 You're starting

01:20:39.860 to concern me

01:20:40.360 because I have

01:20:40.820 an office in Palmdale

01:20:41.740 and the people

01:20:42.200 that concern me

01:20:42.860 every once in a while

01:20:43.600 when I work with them.

01:20:45.180 But they're probably

01:20:46.120 going to see this.

01:20:46.660 But, you know,

01:20:49.400 talking about Area 51,

01:20:51.280 S3, S12,

01:20:52.740 you know,

01:20:52.960 the place you talk

01:20:53.680 about in Provo,

01:20:54.800 outside of Provo,

01:20:56.160 what is in there?

01:20:57.200 Like, are they

01:20:57.860 holding UFOs

01:21:00.480 or extraterrestrial

01:21:02.040 aliens maybe?

01:21:03.100 Are they holding

01:21:03.600 them hostage?

01:21:04.280 What is in there?

01:21:05.140 If somebody was able

01:21:05.840 to sneak in there,

01:21:06.640 what are we going

01:21:07.320 to see?

01:21:09.220 You have 980

01:21:10.480 whistleblowers.

01:21:11.280 I'm curious.

01:21:11.640 Somebody's probably

01:21:12.220 giving you information

01:21:12.940 on that.

01:21:14.260 Oh, yeah.

01:21:14.700 A lot.

01:21:15.220 The facilities

01:21:17.460 have ET craft

01:21:19.600 that are stored.

01:21:21.740 The bodies,

01:21:22.800 most of the folks

01:21:25.520 did not survive

01:21:26.440 the downing

01:21:27.940 of the object

01:21:28.520 and retrieval.

01:21:29.880 Those are stored.

01:21:31.340 They're autopsied

01:21:32.120 and then stored.

01:21:32.920 I know a man

01:21:33.540 at Fort Huachuca

01:21:34.500 in Arizona,

01:21:36.160 which is Army

01:21:36.620 Intelligence Headquarters,

01:21:38.100 and out from that

01:21:39.160 base underground

01:21:39.960 is a facility

01:21:40.860 where there are

01:21:42.100 nine different

01:21:43.060 ET craft

01:21:43.960 that over the years

01:21:44.720 have been retrieved

01:21:45.540 and a number

01:21:46.780 of bodies

01:21:47.580 that are stored

01:21:48.240 there.

01:21:49.720 Are they living?

01:21:50.800 Living aliens?

01:21:51.420 No, they're all dead.

01:21:52.400 No, they're all dead.

01:21:53.480 They're all dead.

01:21:54.640 So we don't have

01:21:55.860 any living aliens

01:21:57.140 at any of our locations

01:21:58.360 that you know of?

01:22:00.340 If there are any

01:22:01.300 currently,

01:22:02.020 I don't know about it.

01:22:03.160 I do know that

01:22:03.980 one that lived

01:22:05.640 and survived

01:22:06.380 after the so-called

01:22:08.300 Roswell event,

01:22:09.460 which actually did happen,

01:22:11.180 but it's not what you think.

01:22:12.380 It's not what you've been told.

01:22:13.260 But one of them

01:22:14.820 did live

01:22:15.460 at least

01:22:16.020 until 1951.

01:22:18.240 And I have

01:22:18.860 an Army

01:22:19.260 Intelligence Officer

01:22:20.440 who actually

01:22:21.200 saw that being

01:22:22.520 in a cage

01:22:24.260 near Camp Perry,

01:22:26.660 near Williamsburg,

01:22:27.520 Virginia,

01:22:28.340 not too far

01:22:29.060 from where I am.

01:22:30.580 I understand

01:22:31.820 that that

01:22:32.540 particular being

01:22:33.840 died not long

01:22:34.700 after that.

01:22:36.440 That's interesting.

01:22:37.020 By the way,

01:22:37.340 do you know

01:22:37.560 what they eat?

01:22:39.160 I really don't.

01:22:41.460 I mean,

01:22:41.640 there's no conjecture.

01:22:42.760 I personally

01:22:43.600 don't have

01:22:44.040 information about that.

01:22:45.200 I'm sure there are

01:22:45.760 different civilizations

01:22:46.640 and they eat

01:22:47.220 different things.

01:22:47.860 They eat them

01:22:48.280 something, right?

01:22:49.580 I mean,

01:22:50.380 I wonder what

01:22:50.860 they're going to say.

01:22:51.320 I want like

01:22:51.740 a medium rare hamburger,

01:22:52.960 you know,

01:22:53.140 a cheeseburger,

01:22:53.520 like American food,

01:22:55.020 Middle Eastern food.

01:22:55.940 That I don't know.

01:22:57.400 Yeah,

01:22:57.680 I'd be curious

01:22:58.360 because maybe

01:22:58.980 I bet they're probably

01:23:00.460 fun conversations

01:23:01.940 to have with them.

01:23:03.620 A few last items

01:23:05.160 here before we wrap up.

01:23:06.040 What are your biggest

01:23:07.380 concerns

01:23:08.360 with future threats?

01:23:11.460 You know,

01:23:11.620 we have a lot of people

01:23:12.500 right now

01:23:13.000 that are worried

01:23:13.580 about many different things.

01:23:14.700 They're worried about,

01:23:15.600 you know,

01:23:16.300 what's going to happen

01:23:16.820 with U.S. and China?

01:23:17.720 What's going to happen

01:23:18.220 with oil?

01:23:18.800 What's going to happen

01:23:19.360 with coronavirus,

01:23:20.720 pandemics,

01:23:22.100 biowarfare,

01:23:23.140 cyber war?

01:23:24.320 What do you think

01:23:26.140 is the biggest threat

01:23:27.400 in the future?

01:23:29.400 I think it may be

01:23:30.480 unfolding right now.

01:23:32.060 And as a medical doctor,

01:23:33.480 I'm appalled

01:23:34.160 and shocked

01:23:34.800 at how we have managed

01:23:36.180 and mismanaged

01:23:37.000 this COVID-19 crisis.

01:23:39.840 We don't have time

01:23:40.620 to go into all that,

01:23:41.840 but the folks I have

01:23:44.080 who worked at Fort Detrick

01:23:45.240 in the biowarfare army

01:23:47.140 have confirmed to me

01:23:48.780 that that was,

01:23:49.820 in fact,

01:23:50.100 a bioengineered virus,

01:23:53.980 that the response

01:23:56.340 that we're having to it

01:23:57.540 is likely to kill

01:23:59.460 many more people

01:24:00.340 than the virus could.

01:24:01.340 In other words,

01:24:02.000 because of the collapse

01:24:04.180 of the economy,

01:24:06.040 somewhere around

01:24:08.320 two to three million people

01:24:10.040 may die

01:24:11.640 from poverty,

01:24:13.620 unemployment,

01:24:14.820 not getting medical attention

01:24:16.680 early enough

01:24:17.280 for heart attacks

01:24:18.020 and strokes.

01:24:18.860 Many of my emergency

01:24:19.880 doctor friends

01:24:20.580 are telling me this

01:24:21.580 who are still in the ER.

01:24:23.120 I'm not in the ER

01:24:23.880 right now.

01:24:24.540 And if you add

01:24:26.620 all those deaths up,

01:24:28.700 there are about

01:24:29.160 three to four times

01:24:30.280 the number

01:24:30.820 of possible deaths

01:24:32.100 from COVID-19.

01:24:34.660 And so,

01:24:35.480 you know,

01:24:35.740 what a lot of countries did,

01:24:37.580 they did lockdown

01:24:38.580 and then they had

01:24:39.620 widespread testing

01:24:40.900 and then

01:24:42.060 they opened up society

01:24:44.000 so things could begin

01:24:45.380 to get back to normal.

01:24:47.000 Well,

01:24:47.540 we didn't do that

01:24:48.420 because there's no

01:24:49.240 widespread testing

01:24:50.300 of either antibodies

01:24:51.300 or the virus

01:24:53.300 enough to know

01:24:54.420 what we're doing.

01:24:56.020 But at the same time,

01:24:57.060 because of that,

01:24:58.060 people are wanting

01:24:58.680 to extend

01:24:59.340 into 2021.

01:25:01.220 Some people are saying

01:25:02.180 2022

01:25:02.840 aspects of this lockdown.

01:25:05.340 Well,

01:25:05.620 that will leave

01:25:06.200 our economy in ashes.

01:25:08.140 And if you're

01:25:08.480 a public health official,

01:25:10.220 you can't just look

01:25:11.280 at one metric,

01:25:12.260 i.e.

01:25:12.940 COVID-19 deaths.

01:25:14.300 You've also got to look

01:25:15.540 at all the people

01:25:16.440 who are going to die

01:25:17.540 from alcoholism,

01:25:19.000 suicide,

01:25:20.180 murder,

01:25:20.600 a wife beatings,

01:25:22.580 heart attacks,

01:25:23.760 strokes,

01:25:24.740 poverty,

01:25:25.740 not getting medical care,

01:25:27.540 on and on and on

01:25:28.820 and on and on.

01:25:29.900 And when you add

01:25:30.640 all those up,

01:25:32.120 you end up getting

01:25:33.160 a number

01:25:33.900 from what we're doing

01:25:35.840 to respond

01:25:36.600 to the virus

01:25:37.440 that far exceeds

01:25:39.180 the worst possible

01:25:40.400 estimates

01:25:41.120 of deaths

01:25:42.320 from the virus

01:25:43.020 if we even

01:25:43.720 let it run amok.

01:25:45.000 So,

01:25:45.680 it's probably

01:25:46.340 the most

01:25:47.100 poorly managed

01:25:48.500 crisis

01:25:49.560 that I've observed

01:25:50.960 in my lifetime.

01:25:52.120 And I was born

01:25:52.740 in 1955.

01:25:54.840 How would you have done it?

01:25:55.940 How would you have done it?

01:25:57.160 Would you have taken

01:25:57.780 a Sweden approach?

01:26:00.220 Yes,

01:26:00.700 a modified Sweden approach

01:26:02.120 where there would have been,

01:26:03.480 through the Defense Authorization Act,

01:26:05.600 massive standing up

01:26:07.060 of testing

01:26:07.760 for both the virus

01:26:09.180 and antibodies

01:26:10.020 so we would know

01:26:11.180 exactly where it is,

01:26:12.880 contain it,

01:26:13.960 but then let

01:26:14.460 the rest of society

01:26:16.300 function

01:26:17.000 as normally

01:26:17.680 as possible.

01:26:19.400 For example,

01:26:20.240 in Sweden,

01:26:20.880 it's against the law

01:26:21.560 not to send your children

01:26:22.460 to school.

01:26:23.300 And what I'm seeing

01:26:24.980 in ARCA,

01:26:25.640 I have nine grandchildren.

01:26:27.460 I have a tenth

01:26:27.960 on the way.

01:26:29.520 And what I'm seeing

01:26:30.840 is that

01:26:31.520 we're,

01:26:33.740 and even though

01:26:34.660 there,

01:26:35.280 you know,

01:26:35.540 in the flu season

01:26:36.700 a couple years ago,

01:26:37.920 172 children

01:26:39.240 died of the flu.

01:26:40.440 There have only been

01:26:40.940 three CDC-reported deaths

01:26:42.660 of children

01:26:43.060 from coronavirus.

01:26:44.020 So we have to figure

01:26:46.300 a way to do this

01:26:47.420 in a smart way,

01:26:48.820 but to do it

01:26:49.560 in a smart way,

01:26:51.060 we would have to

01:26:51.940 stand up competence

01:26:53.700 from federal

01:26:55.540 and state governments

01:26:56.580 to do ubiquitous

01:26:58.240 testing.

01:26:59.220 And we haven't done that.

01:27:00.140 We squandered

01:27:00.980 four months

01:27:01.900 since January.

01:27:02.720 And by the way,

01:27:03.800 the people I know

01:27:04.840 in the military,

01:27:07.000 the people with PhDs

01:27:09.000 in biological warfare,

01:27:10.940 this was on their radar

01:27:12.300 in December of 2019.

01:27:15.140 And it was known now,

01:27:16.820 it's been proven now

01:27:17.560 that the virus

01:27:18.180 was loose in our society

01:27:19.640 in December of 2019

01:27:22.140 in Europe

01:27:22.760 and the United States.

01:27:24.260 So we've lost

01:27:25.460 four months

01:27:26.300 where we should have

01:27:27.440 stood up that capability

01:27:28.740 and infrastructure.

01:27:30.100 But if we,

01:27:30.840 if we stay on the path

01:27:32.120 we're on

01:27:32.760 with this

01:27:33.600 is open-ended lockdown,

01:27:35.620 the number of deaths

01:27:37.120 from poverty

01:27:37.860 and unemployment,

01:27:39.260 and I think,

01:27:39.860 frankly,

01:27:40.100 we'll enter into

01:27:40.840 something worse

01:27:41.600 than the Great Depression

01:27:42.480 if we're not careful.

01:27:44.460 That,

01:27:44.780 that the,

01:27:45.480 my mother

01:27:46.100 grew up

01:27:47.000 during the Great Depression

01:27:47.880 and

01:27:48.940 the consequences

01:27:51.500 of that

01:27:52.360 and the death

01:27:53.620 from that

01:27:54.320 would be greater

01:27:55.820 than

01:27:56.940 from the virus itself.

01:27:59.140 So,

01:27:59.920 now,

01:28:00.440 the other concern

01:28:01.180 I have

01:28:01.880 as someone who's,

01:28:03.620 my mother's family

01:28:05.180 were

01:28:05.480 the unfortunate

01:28:07.100 early losers

01:28:08.220 in the Revolutionary War

01:28:10.420 with the British

01:28:11.140 and were the first

01:28:11.820 prisoner of war

01:28:12.640 with the British

01:28:13.300 in the Pennsylvania Dutch.

01:28:16.360 And what,

01:28:17.060 what,

01:28:17.600 what I'm looking at

01:28:19.100 is

01:28:19.460 what happens

01:28:20.800 when,

01:28:21.680 like,

01:28:21.780 I was at my home

01:28:22.460 in D.C.

01:28:23.460 recently.

01:28:24.380 At the Safeway

01:28:25.560 in a nice neighborhood,

01:28:26.640 there were

01:28:27.800 a cluster

01:28:28.780 of Army National Guard

01:28:30.280 people

01:28:30.760 and a phalanx

01:28:32.280 of police

01:28:32.960 at the,

01:28:35.000 to go buy

01:28:35.540 your bread.

01:28:36.980 So,

01:28:37.740 the concern

01:28:38.440 I have

01:28:39.140 is

01:28:39.480 this virus

01:28:41.300 being used

01:28:42.360 to engage

01:28:43.720 in excessive

01:28:44.560 police state

01:28:45.580 tactics

01:28:46.280 that suspend

01:28:47.780 freedom of assembly,

01:28:49.120 freedom of speech,

01:28:50.680 freedom,

01:28:51.180 all kinds of freedoms,

01:28:52.140 and freedom

01:28:52.640 to make a living

01:28:53.400 and freedom

01:28:54.300 to have

01:28:55.280 the pursuit

01:28:55.820 of happiness.

01:28:56.880 Now,

01:28:57.220 is there a balance

01:28:58.000 that needs to be struck?

01:28:58.920 Absolutely.

01:28:59.800 We need widespread,

01:29:01.240 ubiquitous testing,

01:29:03.660 contact tracing

01:29:04.640 while we open

01:29:06.180 society up

01:29:07.240 and that

01:29:08.240 is what should

01:29:09.480 have happened

01:29:10.120 beginning in January.

01:29:11.960 The ball got dropped

01:29:13.080 in January,

01:29:14.600 February,

01:29:15.820 March,

01:29:16.720 April.

01:29:17.140 We've still dropped

01:29:17.920 that ball.

01:29:18.620 I'm just being blunt

01:29:19.380 with you

01:29:19.900 as an emergency doctor

01:29:22.640 and there are other

01:29:23.120 emergency doctors

01:29:23.980 who have said

01:29:24.420 the same thing

01:29:25.200 but their videos

01:29:26.260 have been banned

01:29:26.800 off of YouTube.

01:29:27.640 Yeah,

01:29:27.940 plenty of them.

01:29:28.900 Do you believe

01:29:29.480 there's an element

01:29:30.000 of Project Mockingbird

01:29:30.920 taking place

01:29:31.520 or no?

01:29:32.720 100%.

01:29:33.200 Do you think

01:29:34.440 any commentators,

01:29:38.960 any of these

01:29:39.560 major anchors

01:29:41.440 that you see

01:29:41.920 on CNN,

01:29:42.560 MSNBC,

01:29:43.320 Fox,

01:29:43.960 ABC,

01:29:44.460 any of these guys,

01:29:45.500 do you think

01:29:45.960 any of them

01:29:46.860 could potentially

01:29:47.820 be also CIA agents

01:29:49.540 or no?

01:29:50.500 They don't know about it.

01:29:51.480 It's behind the scenes

01:29:52.160 executives.

01:29:53.760 Well,

01:29:53.920 the way that works

01:29:54.780 is that

01:29:55.340 you're talking

01:29:56.220 about the teleprompter

01:29:57.160 junkies,

01:29:58.020 monkeys.

01:29:59.460 I mean,

01:29:59.600 they're the ones

01:30:00.040 reading,

01:30:00.420 they're the ones

01:30:01.080 the editors,

01:30:03.540 the national security

01:30:04.480 and key editors

01:30:05.320 that decide

01:30:06.020 this story runs,

01:30:07.540 this story doesn't.

01:30:09.140 That's the control point,

01:30:10.700 not the people

01:30:11.440 who are,

01:30:12.420 the talent,

01:30:13.400 let's call it,

01:30:13.960 that's on the camera.

01:30:15.480 So,

01:30:16.200 it's the control system

01:30:18.280 behind the camera

01:30:19.320 and the editors

01:30:20.840 and who decides

01:30:21.640 what story is running,

01:30:22.660 what isn't.

01:30:23.040 Who writes that?

01:30:23.640 How much of what's said

01:30:24.620 is what the anchor

01:30:27.480 takes ownership with

01:30:28.420 and how much of it

01:30:29.020 is the editor

01:30:29.480 that wrote it

01:30:29.980 and he's simply

01:30:30.520 reading it

01:30:30.960 or she's reading it?

01:30:32.360 Well,

01:30:32.620 both is happening,

01:30:33.600 obviously,

01:30:34.460 but what's decided

01:30:37.020 to be on that program

01:30:38.420 goes through a filter

01:30:39.440 and that's where

01:30:40.660 you get into the problem.

01:30:41.640 Now,

01:30:41.780 I think there have been

01:30:43.100 on all the networks

01:30:44.260 some physicians

01:30:45.160 and others

01:30:45.700 that have surfaced

01:30:46.320 and said,

01:30:46.860 here's what we need

01:30:47.860 to be doing

01:30:48.400 and there are others

01:30:49.480 who have said,

01:30:50.040 look what's going on

01:30:50.800 in Sweden.

01:30:51.860 They may have

01:30:52.580 herd immunity

01:30:53.340 by June or July.

01:30:56.040 What I think

01:30:56.940 in the United States,

01:30:58.480 we have the worst

01:30:59.260 of both worlds

01:31:00.040 because we,

01:31:01.860 on the one hand,

01:31:02.600 we have a lockdown situation

01:31:05.040 and a suspension

01:31:06.120 of normal activities

01:31:07.300 that have suspended

01:31:09.100 basic individual

01:31:10.740 and civil rights

01:31:11.700 and business

01:31:12.700 and has had

01:31:13.720 massive economic damage.

01:31:16.020 But at the same time,

01:31:17.300 we haven't done

01:31:18.260 what,

01:31:19.400 let's say,

01:31:19.700 China and other,

01:31:21.200 like an authoritarian regime

01:31:23.240 like China

01:31:23.840 was able to lock

01:31:25.680 and then test

01:31:26.700 and trace everything.

01:31:27.940 But even democracies

01:31:29.020 like Germany

01:31:30.200 or Portugal

01:31:31.340 for that matter

01:31:32.760 or South Korea,

01:31:35.620 they were able

01:31:36.600 to do

01:31:37.200 very widespread testing.

01:31:39.380 And, you know,

01:31:39.560 here we have

01:31:40.020 the United States,

01:31:41.280 a medical superpower,

01:31:42.860 a technological superpower,

01:31:44.400 a financial superpower

01:31:45.540 fumbling around

01:31:47.340 incompetently.

01:31:49.900 For example,

01:31:50.860 a lot of people

01:31:51.440 don't know

01:31:51.840 that in nursing homes.

01:31:53.460 If someone starts

01:31:54.280 having symptoms

01:31:55.220 of COVID-19,

01:31:57.700 that test

01:31:58.800 that they will get

01:31:59.460 for that person

01:32:00.120 is considered

01:32:00.600 a priority too,

01:32:02.440 which means

01:32:03.160 it takes 8 to 10 days

01:32:04.360 to get the results back.

01:32:05.840 But that's where

01:32:06.500 most of the deaths

01:32:07.340 are happening.

01:32:08.440 It's sweeping through

01:32:09.760 elderly and sick populations.

01:32:12.480 So almost all

01:32:13.540 of the policies

01:32:14.320 that have been enforced

01:32:16.180 to manage this pandemic

01:32:18.260 have been upside down.

01:32:20.900 I'm just,

01:32:21.180 unfortunately,

01:32:22.660 I'm sorry to vent

01:32:23.540 on your show like this,

01:32:24.660 but I'm just outraged

01:32:25.840 by it, frankly,

01:32:27.000 as a doctor.

01:32:27.440 I mean,

01:32:27.980 I appreciate you sharing that.

01:32:29.120 I mean,

01:32:29.280 I'm curious to know

01:32:30.120 from somebody in your world.

01:32:31.100 By the way,

01:32:31.860 a quick rundown here

01:32:33.460 with alien movies.

01:32:34.300 How much of it is fiction?

01:32:35.360 How much of it is real?

01:32:36.740 And how much of it

01:32:37.440 has some truth behind it?

01:32:38.580 Men in Black.

01:32:41.580 99% fiction.

01:32:43.760 99% fiction.

01:32:45.060 Aliens, the movie.

01:32:46.720 100% fiction.

01:32:48.020 I never really see it.

01:32:49.960 Independence Day.

01:32:51.180 That's scripted

01:32:53.380 right out of

01:32:53.940 central casting at CIA

01:32:55.460 because they want everyone

01:32:56.500 to unite around

01:32:57.560 an alien threat

01:32:58.340 and that's a hoax.

01:33:00.720 Signs.

01:33:01.720 I never saw it.

01:33:03.220 Oh, really?

01:33:03.780 I think you ought to see it.

01:33:05.000 It has a lot to do

01:33:06.660 with one of the five

01:33:07.440 encounters.

01:33:09.680 It's interesting.

01:33:11.420 Cloverfield.

01:33:12.880 I don't know.

01:33:14.220 I can tell you

01:33:15.240 that Close Encounters

01:33:16.120 of the Third Kind

01:33:17.000 was a docudrama.

01:33:18.880 I have it on here as well.

01:33:20.140 Yeah.

01:33:21.340 What do you think

01:33:22.100 about the movie

01:33:22.600 Star Trek?

01:33:23.340 Are you a fan of it?

01:33:25.420 Oh, they're fun.

01:33:26.340 I mean, you know,

01:33:26.980 I mean, of course,

01:33:27.600 it's sort of

01:33:28.120 an anthropomorphic projection.

01:33:30.360 We're basically projecting

01:33:31.500 the human condition

01:33:32.400 out in space

01:33:33.200 with, you know,

01:33:34.460 cowboys and Indians

01:33:35.340 shooting at each other

01:33:36.280 and all that.

01:33:37.140 I think it's,

01:33:38.020 you know,

01:33:38.420 it's great fantasy.

01:33:39.480 I don't think

01:33:39.840 there's any legitimacy

01:33:41.240 to the way

01:33:42.500 things actually are.

01:33:43.640 Are you more

01:33:44.880 a Trekkie

01:33:45.380 or are you more

01:33:45.960 a Star Wars guy yourself?

01:33:48.160 Well,

01:33:48.500 they're all science fiction

01:33:49.660 and they all have

01:33:50.460 their pluses and minuses.

01:33:52.000 I kind of like

01:33:52.600 the whole Yoda.

01:33:54.080 If you look at

01:33:54.900 the Jedi mind trick,

01:33:56.240 I mean,

01:33:56.620 there's a lot of cool stuff

01:33:58.000 that George Lucas

01:33:58.780 worked into that.

01:34:00.180 Just like Close Encounters

01:34:01.180 of the Third Kind.

01:34:02.300 Well,

01:34:02.500 you did say

01:34:02.980 some of the aliens

01:34:03.720 you met

01:34:04.120 are two feet tall.

01:34:05.180 So,

01:34:05.320 I mean,

01:34:05.560 you know,

01:34:05.860 he kind of fits

01:34:06.700 the description.

01:34:08.040 Yes.

01:34:08.260 By the way,

01:34:11.220 you've done

01:34:11.640 these C5 events

01:34:13.220 that you do

01:34:13.820 and folks come

01:34:15.100 from all over the world.

01:34:16.140 Who are some

01:34:16.580 of the most mentionable

01:34:17.460 names that have

01:34:18.520 come through politicians,

01:34:20.000 wealthy folks,

01:34:21.400 celebrities,

01:34:22.120 you know,

01:34:22.640 that you can mention

01:34:23.500 their names?

01:34:24.160 Anybody that comes

01:34:24.980 to those events

01:34:25.480 with you?

01:34:26.200 Well,

01:34:26.800 I wouldn't want

01:34:27.620 to name folks

01:34:28.540 like that.

01:34:29.360 I mentioned

01:34:29.900 David Marconi

01:34:30.780 who's a renowned

01:34:31.580 writer.

01:34:33.680 You know,

01:34:34.160 the actor

01:34:37.180 that played

01:34:37.720 in Babe,

01:34:39.260 Jamie Cromwell,

01:34:40.540 he's been out

01:34:41.540 with us

01:34:41.900 and we had

01:34:42.280 a massive object

01:34:43.260 come over us

01:34:43.960 near Palm Springs

01:34:44.940 in California.

01:34:46.940 He actually

01:34:47.500 sort of played me

01:34:48.800 in the Star Trek

01:34:49.600 movie First Contact.

01:34:51.340 It's a little

01:34:51.720 funny story.

01:34:52.860 He was going

01:34:53.360 to do the opening

01:34:54.340 for that Star Trek

01:34:55.460 movie First Contact

01:34:56.600 where the human

01:34:57.260 first made contact

01:34:58.440 and he was sort

01:34:59.800 of used what

01:35:00.620 I had been doing

01:35:01.340 as an inspiration

01:35:02.140 for his role

01:35:02.940 and at the premiere

01:35:05.360 in London,

01:35:06.220 Prince Charles

01:35:07.300 was going

01:35:07.800 to come

01:35:08.240 and had

01:35:09.360 communicated

01:35:09.800 that he wanted

01:35:10.480 to get

01:35:10.820 the briefing

01:35:11.360 document I had

01:35:12.680 put together

01:35:13.160 for the president

01:35:14.320 so I gave it

01:35:15.480 to Jamie Cromwell

01:35:16.640 who in the

01:35:17.760 reception line

01:35:18.680 gave it to

01:35:19.560 Prince Charles

01:35:20.280 and I got a

01:35:20.900 lovely note

01:35:21.440 back from

01:35:21.960 Prince Charles

01:35:22.980 about it.

01:35:24.600 Prince Charles

01:35:25.360 and Prince Philip

01:35:25.920 were very interested

01:35:26.680 in all this.

01:35:28.200 Yeah,

01:35:28.340 there's some

01:35:28.680 big names.

01:35:29.680 I mean,

01:35:29.900 I have a list

01:35:30.960 here of

01:35:31.320 Churchill,

01:35:33.180 obviously Jimmy

01:35:34.660 Carter,

01:35:35.980 you know,

01:35:36.820 you got some

01:35:37.280 of the people

01:35:37.640 in Hollywood,

01:35:38.240 Katy Perry,

01:35:38.720 Megan Fox,

01:35:39.340 Shatner,

01:35:40.580 Stephen Hawking,

01:35:41.320 Ridley Scott,

01:35:42.560 there's a lot,

01:35:43.560 Bill Nye,

01:35:44.060 a lot of folks

01:35:44.680 that are

01:35:45.680 believers of it

01:35:47.460 so it's not like

01:35:48.380 it's a small

01:35:48.820 community here.

01:35:50.000 By the way,

01:35:50.520 for somebody

01:35:50.920 that's a doctor,

01:35:51.660 what are your

01:35:52.700 thoughts on vaccines?

01:35:53.700 Any opinions

01:35:54.380 on vaccines

01:35:54.940 yourself or no?

01:35:56.500 Well,

01:35:57.220 I think that

01:35:57.860 most people

01:35:58.840 have,

01:36:00.900 there have been

01:36:01.560 vaccines that have

01:36:02.220 problems,

01:36:02.820 I think a lot of

01:36:03.500 those have been

01:36:03.880 resolved,

01:36:04.520 I think it's

01:36:04.900 very dangerous

01:36:05.600 for our children

01:36:06.240 not to get

01:36:07.020 vaccinated for

01:36:08.160 the worst

01:36:08.760 communicable diseases

01:36:10.400 that are out

01:36:11.020 there.

01:36:11.860 I came up

01:36:12.640 in an era

01:36:13.160 when we

01:36:14.420 didn't have

01:36:14.840 a measles

01:36:15.280 vaccine,

01:36:16.180 we didn't

01:36:16.580 have a lot

01:36:17.960 of the ones

01:36:18.280 we take for

01:36:18.740 granted now,

01:36:19.400 there were a

01:36:19.780 lot of children

01:36:20.300 who were killed

01:36:21.440 and harmed.

01:36:22.700 I had the

01:36:23.280 worst case of

01:36:24.100 measles and

01:36:24.720 chickenpox

01:36:25.380 our pediatrician

01:36:26.720 had ever seen.

01:36:28.200 Yourself?

01:36:29.080 Myself,

01:36:29.620 yeah,

01:36:29.840 almost died.

01:36:31.160 So,

01:36:31.600 you know,

01:36:32.340 these are

01:36:33.320 fearsome

01:36:34.040 diseases.

01:36:36.180 So,

01:36:36.900 what happens

01:36:38.060 with this

01:36:38.540 is that

01:36:38.980 there are

01:36:39.740 some bad

01:36:40.140 outcomes

01:36:40.700 and,

01:36:41.960 but then

01:36:42.460 the whole

01:36:43.680 baby gets

01:36:44.660 thrown out

01:36:44.980 with the

01:36:45.180 bathwater.

01:36:46.120 And I think

01:36:46.500 we need to

01:36:46.800 be careful.

01:36:47.460 But we do

01:36:47.900 need transparency

01:36:48.880 about which

01:36:50.560 vaccines have

01:36:51.380 had what

01:36:51.820 side effects

01:36:52.480 and a lot

01:36:53.560 of times

01:36:53.940 big profit

01:36:55.220 centered

01:36:55.600 pharmaceutical

01:36:56.160 companies

01:36:56.840 will minimize

01:36:58.520 that.

01:36:59.120 And we

01:36:59.300 know the

01:36:59.600 FDA is

01:37:00.340 utterly

01:37:00.680 incompetent

01:37:01.620 to look

01:37:02.820 out after

01:37:03.280 these things,

01:37:03.980 frankly.

01:37:05.120 So,

01:37:05.500 and so

01:37:06.540 is the

01:37:06.840 CDC.

01:37:07.500 I mean,

01:37:07.660 look how

01:37:07.940 they've

01:37:08.160 managed

01:37:08.420 this crisis.

01:37:09.280 I mean,

01:37:09.460 I've never

01:37:09.700 seen such

01:37:10.180 incompetence.

01:37:11.740 But,

01:37:12.500 ouch,

01:37:13.740 but,

01:37:14.100 I mean,

01:37:14.760 you asked

01:37:15.100 my opinion,

01:37:15.820 I'm not

01:37:16.260 going to

01:37:16.520 I thought

01:37:17.800 I was

01:37:18.020 great.

01:37:18.580 And by

01:37:18.840 the way,

01:37:19.000 if they

01:37:19.180 come up

01:37:19.440 with a

01:37:19.660 coronavirus

01:37:19.980 vaccine,

01:37:20.620 would you

01:37:20.860 take it

01:37:21.160 yourself?

01:37:21.520 Actually,

01:37:23.480 I think

01:37:23.760 in January

01:37:24.340 I actually

01:37:24.920 had COVID-19.

01:37:26.360 I'm waiting

01:37:26.820 to see if I

01:37:27.280 can get an

01:37:27.580 antibody test,

01:37:28.440 but I had

01:37:28.900 every symptom

01:37:29.880 you would

01:37:30.200 expect.

01:37:31.500 And so,

01:37:32.420 I predict

01:37:33.220 that I have

01:37:33.680 a pretty

01:37:33.940 high titer.

01:37:34.980 You're June

01:37:35.420 28,

01:37:35.920 1955,

01:37:36.820 right?

01:37:37.240 Right.

01:37:37.900 Yeah,

01:37:38.200 I'll be 65

01:37:38.920 in June.

01:37:39.820 So,

01:37:40.140 so you're

01:37:40.700 in that age

01:37:41.800 range that

01:37:42.340 they're sometimes

01:37:42.920 concerned about.

01:37:43.720 They say 70

01:37:44.360 plus,

01:37:44.860 but I was

01:37:45.660 just wondering,

01:37:46.140 you don't seem

01:37:46.540 like you were

01:37:46.880 too concerned

01:37:47.340 about it.

01:37:48.520 Well,

01:37:49.100 I mean,

01:37:49.460 I mountain

01:37:49.880 bike 60

01:37:50.600 miles a

01:37:51.120 week,

01:37:51.400 and hike

01:37:51.780 20 miles

01:37:52.340 a week,

01:37:52.780 and bench

01:37:53.320 press 400

01:37:54.020 pounds,

01:37:54.660 and I'm

01:37:54.960 in the gym

01:37:55.560 when it's

01:37:56.040 open all

01:37:56.480 the time.

01:37:57.440 The guys

01:37:58.860 in their

01:37:59.280 20s have

01:37:59.940 a hard time

01:38:00.380 keeping up

01:38:00.880 with me,

01:38:01.200 so I'm

01:38:01.440 not your

01:38:02.220 classic 60

01:38:03.160 something.

01:38:03.660 I'm more

01:38:04.200 like a 40

01:38:04.840 year old

01:38:05.280 that's 60

01:38:05.840 something.

01:38:06.580 I'm impressed.

01:38:07.140 By the way,

01:38:07.520 you're also

01:38:07.820 a good

01:38:08.020 smack talker.

01:38:08.880 You know,

01:38:09.060 the way you

01:38:09.460 said it,

01:38:09.860 you were

01:38:10.060 like,

01:38:10.400 listen,

01:38:10.840 you know,

01:38:11.160 400 pounds.

01:38:11.760 Did you see

01:38:12.060 how he said

01:38:12.460 it?

01:38:12.640 Like,

01:38:12.820 I bench

01:38:13.160 400 pounds,

01:38:14.340 and I bet

01:38:16.500 not a lot

01:38:16.980 of people

01:38:17.320 want to

01:38:17.900 go against

01:38:19.240 a doctor

01:38:20.100 that's

01:38:20.380 mentioned

01:38:20.620 400 pounds.

01:38:21.860 Speed round.

01:38:22.700 I'll give you

01:38:23.100 a name

01:38:23.440 or a topic.

01:38:24.060 Just give me

01:38:24.420 one word

01:38:24.880 that comes

01:38:25.280 to mind.

01:38:25.680 Bob Lazar.

01:38:26.800 True.

01:38:27.920 Okay.

01:38:29.480 Storm Area 51.

01:38:31.540 Fantasy.

01:38:32.720 X-Files.

01:38:33.780 Fantasy.

01:38:35.060 David Fravor.

01:38:37.000 Honestly,

01:38:37.540 don't know.

01:38:38.300 Okay.

01:38:38.820 Steven Spielberg.

01:38:40.120 Brilliant.

01:38:41.700 Interstellar.

01:38:42.760 Excellent.

01:38:43.700 Frank Tipler.

01:38:45.220 Don't know.

01:38:45.800 Sarah Seeger.

01:38:49.100 I don't know.

01:38:50.300 Don't know.

01:38:51.040 Dr. Harold

01:38:51.840 Podhoff.

01:38:53.460 Oh,

01:38:53.660 Puthoff.

01:38:54.280 Puthoff.

01:38:56.260 Intelligence

01:38:56.860 operative.

01:38:58.360 Travis Walton.

01:39:01.220 Misrepresented

01:39:01.740 by Hollywood.

01:39:03.740 He had a real

01:39:04.640 experience,

01:39:05.160 but it was

01:39:05.380 misrepresented

01:39:05.940 by Hollywood.

01:39:07.220 Helen Sharma.

01:39:09.580 Don't know.

01:39:10.720 Don't know.

01:39:11.300 Trump.

01:39:13.080 Aspirational.

01:39:14.680 Aspirational.

01:39:15.200 Hillary Clinton.

01:39:16.900 Passed.

01:39:18.240 Passed.

01:39:18.780 Okay.

01:39:19.000 Fauci.

01:39:20.360 Misguided.

01:39:21.600 CDC.

01:39:23.000 Incompetent.

01:39:24.020 You've been amazing.

01:39:25.400 This has been an

01:39:26.020 incredible conversation.

01:39:27.560 Thank you.

01:39:27.900 And again,

01:39:28.400 Dr. Greer,

01:39:29.660 I appreciate you for

01:39:30.460 coming out and spending

01:39:31.180 a couple hours with us.

01:39:32.740 Thank you.

01:39:33.080 For having spent the last

01:39:35.340 two hours with you.

01:39:36.080 Once again,

01:39:36.480 thank you for being a guest

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Valuetainment - July 13, 2020

Episode 490： Classified Alien Encounters Revealed By Traumatologist

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