Valuetainment - July 13, 2020


Episode 490: Classified Alien Encounters Revealed By Traumatologist


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Stephen Greer is a medical doctor and UFO researcher. He has been involved in the field of UFO research since the early 90's and has worked with some of the most senior members of the U.S. military and CIA. In this episode, Dr. Greer talks about his personal UFO encounters and what he thinks about the existence of aliens.

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00:00:01.800 Did you ever think you would make it?
00:00:04.200 I feel I'm so close I could take sweet victory.
00:00:07.620 I know this life meant for me.
00:00:10.740 Yeah, why would you bet on Goliath when we got Bet David?
00:00:14.580 Valuetainment, giving values contagious.
00:00:16.420 This world of entrepreneurs, we get no value to haters.
00:00:19.160 How they run, homie? 1.00
00:00:20.140 Look what I become.
00:00:21.400 I'm the one.
00:00:22.400 I'm Patrick with you, host of Valuetainment.
00:00:23.920 Listen, with the recent release from Pentagon,
00:00:26.600 Department of Defense showing a video
00:00:28.180 that looks like a possible UFO.
00:00:30.140 I decided to reach out to Stephen Greer
00:00:31.800 to talk about his personal alien encounters
00:00:34.620 and what he thinks about actual aliens,
00:00:37.680 the existence of aliens.
00:00:39.080 That's a lot of weird questions.
00:00:40.340 I think you're going to enjoy this one.
00:00:41.560 Dr. Greer, thanks for being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:00:43.560 Love it.
00:00:44.100 Thank you very much for having me.
00:00:45.720 So you have an interesting background
00:00:47.720 because some talk about when you read your background,
00:00:51.020 you see a lot of UFO stuff,
00:00:52.920 but you don't read a lot about you being a doctor
00:00:57.320 in the emergency room, 80,000 patients.
00:00:59.780 Can you kind of give us what you do for a living
00:01:02.000 and what led you to want to study UFOs?
00:01:05.000 Well, yes.
00:01:05.960 I mean, I'm a medical doctor,
00:01:07.920 but when I was younger, I had a sighting of a UFO
00:01:11.780 and it coincided with my uncle
00:01:15.160 designing what's called the lunar module,
00:01:18.500 which is the thing that put the first man on the moon.
00:01:22.440 Grumman, which is now Northrop Grumman,
00:01:24.100 had the contract to design the machine
00:01:26.660 that landed with Neil Armstrong.
00:01:28.660 So I had an interest in space
00:01:30.500 and then I had a sighting,
00:01:32.860 not unlike what the Pentagon recently released,
00:01:36.020 where I grew up in North Carolina.
00:01:38.400 And of course, I knew immediately what I had seen
00:01:40.660 was a very unusual object.
00:01:42.840 So it ignited a lifelong interest in this
00:01:45.600 and a whole lot of things evolved over time.
00:01:48.260 My uncle retired
00:01:49.080 and over a period of a few years in the 90s,
00:01:53.660 I began to do further research
00:01:56.720 and start an organization to go out
00:01:58.640 and do reconnaissance of these UFOs
00:02:01.680 and set up a set of protocols
00:02:03.500 to make some kind of interactive contact with them.
00:02:07.240 And we did.
00:02:08.340 And that was in 1992.
00:02:11.300 That got on the radar scope
00:02:12.860 of the intelligence community.
00:02:14.980 The head of army intelligence approached me
00:02:17.040 and basically said,
00:02:17.900 what the hell do you think you're doing?
00:02:20.140 Basically, we had cracked the Rosetta Stone
00:02:22.520 for communicating with these objects
00:02:24.780 and their occupants.
00:02:26.760 And it ended up on the front page
00:02:28.440 of the Pensacola paper
00:02:29.540 in March of 1992.
00:02:31.940 And that kind of hit some red line buttons
00:02:34.700 at the Pentagon and CIA.
00:02:37.000 So I got contacted by those folks.
00:02:39.980 Some of them were friendly
00:02:41.100 to what we were trying to do.
00:02:42.240 Some were hostile.
00:02:43.720 But the ones who were friendly
00:02:45.120 helped me build a network
00:02:46.400 that now is around 980
00:02:48.420 military, corporate, aerospace mainly,
00:02:53.340 and intelligence officials
00:02:54.880 who have information about these projects.
00:02:57.620 And that led to me in 1993
00:03:00.300 briefing Bill Clinton's CIA director,
00:03:03.560 R. James Woolsey,
00:03:04.980 and a few other people,
00:03:06.400 Senate Intelligence Committee members.
00:03:08.140 And I was doing this as a doctor,
00:03:09.820 sort of shuttling up from North Carolina,
00:03:12.060 where I was chairman of emergency medicine
00:03:13.880 at the hospital up to D.C.
00:03:16.800 So it sort of got organically,
00:03:19.740 sort of overtook my medical career,
00:03:21.920 but over a number of years.
00:03:23.860 So I'm retired from emergency medicine now.
00:03:26.740 I'm not in the ER.
00:03:27.840 I'm working now to try to bring this information
00:03:30.380 and more equally importantly,
00:03:32.940 the technologies that are behind these spacecraft
00:03:36.540 and things that are being reported on CNN now,
00:03:40.160 because what the public isn't being told
00:03:42.140 is that we have, in fact,
00:03:43.700 figured out how those objects operate.
00:03:47.160 And that would give us an entirely new
00:03:50.640 and advanced civilization
00:03:51.720 where we would not need fossil fuels,
00:03:54.300 oil or gas or coal or nuclear power.
00:03:56.880 So it's a very big story.
00:03:58.940 Most people think the secrecy around this
00:04:00.960 is because the government
00:04:02.860 has just been incompetent. 0.80
00:04:04.060 That's not true.
00:04:05.460 That narrative is a false narrative.
00:04:07.840 The true narrative is that,
00:04:09.620 I will quote from a top secret memo
00:04:12.460 released during the past few decades,
00:04:16.520 but it was dated 1951.
00:04:18.940 And it stated that the subject
00:04:20.480 was the most classified matter
00:04:22.720 in the U.S. government
00:04:23.980 exceeding the classification
00:04:26.300 of the development of the hydrogen bomb.
00:04:29.140 I'm quoting.
00:04:30.260 So that document, by the way,
00:04:32.340 it's up on our website,
00:04:34.260 SiriusDisclosure.com,
00:04:35.840 S-I-R-I-U-S Disclosure.com.
00:04:38.160 So that this entire investigation
00:04:40.640 that I started sort of as a interest
00:04:43.080 when I was a young doctor
00:04:44.620 eventually overtook my medical career.
00:04:47.500 And now I'm sort of working full time
00:04:51.100 trying to get this information
00:04:52.280 out to the public
00:04:53.100 because it's very critical.
00:04:54.280 In order for our civilization
00:04:56.220 to move forward significantly,
00:04:58.080 we're going to have to have something better
00:04:59.940 than solar panels and windmills.
00:05:02.120 And the good news is we have it.
00:05:05.480 The bad news is there are sociopaths
00:05:08.900 who are in super secret projects
00:05:11.360 that don't want us to have it.
00:05:13.640 And our civilization has been greatly harmed,
00:05:16.540 not to mention our environment and biosphere.
00:05:19.080 So a lot of people think this is about aliens.
00:05:21.800 I said, no, it's not about ETs.
00:05:23.760 It's about humans
00:05:25.360 and how are humans going to get out
00:05:26.940 of the conundrum we're in,
00:05:28.580 which is a very serious problem,
00:05:30.020 and move forward as a civilization
00:05:32.980 instead of sliding backwards.
00:05:34.720 So going back to,
00:05:35.780 you said a lot of different things.
00:05:36.740 I just want to kind of make it clear
00:05:38.240 what it means.
00:05:38.700 You said 980 military intelligent officials
00:05:41.440 that give you information,
00:05:43.060 aka whistleblower, right?
00:05:44.560 Is that a fair assessment to say?
00:05:45.920 Yes, and documents, for example,
00:05:47.740 a lot of top secret documents.
00:05:50.760 In 1998, my group,
00:05:53.520 working with constitutional attorney,
00:05:55.620 Daniel Sheehan,
00:05:56.980 that's in our new documentary,
00:05:58.380 Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind,
00:06:00.700 which is up on all the platforms now.
00:06:03.160 He and I looked at this issue,
00:06:06.200 and if you have a minute to hear me out,
00:06:08.980 what happened,
00:06:10.400 I don't know if you can imagine
00:06:11.540 the strange predicament a doctor is in
00:06:13.740 whose, of course, uncle
00:06:15.280 was one of the pioneers in aerospace
00:06:17.400 with Northrop Grumman
00:06:19.040 working on the Apollo mission,
00:06:21.540 to be asked to come up to Washington,
00:06:23.720 to brief the sitting CIA director
00:06:26.520 as a civilian on a subject
00:06:29.720 because the president and he
00:06:31.420 were being denied access.
00:06:33.560 Now, let me repeat this.
00:06:34.980 The president of the United States
00:06:36.500 and the director of the CIA
00:06:37.880 were being denied.
00:06:39.280 Now, I have a FedEx letter
00:06:41.000 from the person setting up this meeting
00:06:43.480 between me and the CIA director,
00:06:45.260 Woolsey,
00:06:46.000 that states that they had inquired
00:06:48.140 about this subject,
00:06:48.960 they knew there were programs going on,
00:06:51.320 highly classified,
00:06:52.840 and they were denied access to it.
00:06:55.280 I didn't believe that could be true.
00:06:57.360 I thought this is a bad John LeCart novel.
00:07:00.280 And when I got up to D.C.
00:07:02.400 and met with the director of the CIA,
00:07:05.300 I realized nobody was joking
00:07:08.080 that this is absolutely true.
00:07:10.240 And that's when I realized,
00:07:11.580 in December 1993,
00:07:12.780 that our country,
00:07:14.940 the Constitution,
00:07:16.580 the rule of law
00:07:18.200 had completely run off the rails,
00:07:20.180 at least in this specific area.
00:07:22.440 And it was pretty much
00:07:23.400 what Eisenhower,
00:07:24.300 if you looked at last speech
00:07:25.380 Eisenhower made 0.85
00:07:26.140 when he left office,
00:07:27.320 when he said,
00:07:28.100 beware the military-industrial complex
00:07:30.460 because it will become a threat
00:07:32.360 if we're not careful
00:07:33.700 to our democracy
00:07:34.680 and our way of life.
00:07:36.160 That was his farewell speech.
00:07:37.680 And this is a five-star general,
00:07:39.340 World War II hero, of course,
00:07:40.760 and a Republican.
00:07:43.560 And no one really understood
00:07:45.160 why he made that
00:07:46.360 as his last speech.
00:07:48.060 Well, it turns out
00:07:48.960 one of his military guys
00:07:51.060 who worked with him
00:07:51.960 the last couple years
00:07:53.000 of his administration
00:07:54.060 was an old guy
00:07:55.700 that I got to know
00:07:57.580 and was one of our
00:07:58.340 disclosure project whistleblowers
00:08:00.560 said, oh yeah,
00:08:01.360 I was at the White House
00:08:02.340 and Eisenhower
00:08:03.640 had been pushed aside
00:08:05.160 and had lost control
00:08:06.480 of those projects.
00:08:08.300 So I think this is the part
00:08:11.300 of the story
00:08:12.240 that people have a hard time
00:08:13.700 in a sense
00:08:14.720 getting their minds around
00:08:15.720 because we all grew up
00:08:16.700 with our history lessons
00:08:18.300 and our civics lessons
00:08:20.860 and the president
00:08:22.220 is the commander-in-chief
00:08:23.460 and blah, blah, blah.
00:08:24.860 In reality,
00:08:26.500 the emperor has no clothes
00:08:27.800 and there are classified projects
00:08:31.400 that go on,
00:08:33.440 unfortunately,
00:08:34.360 that are not supervised
00:08:35.500 by the president
00:08:36.380 or the Congress.
00:08:37.300 So that led me
00:08:39.060 with Daniel Sheehan
00:08:40.460 to conclude
00:08:41.220 that these projects
00:08:42.500 were illegal.
00:08:44.180 A priori,
00:08:45.300 they cannot claim
00:08:46.960 the rule of law
00:08:48.220 to suppress testimony
00:08:49.640 and disclosure
00:08:50.400 of the subject.
00:08:51.520 So we concluded
00:08:52.880 that we could go forward
00:08:54.120 with top secret documents
00:08:55.660 and witness testimony
00:08:57.240 and put it out
00:08:58.160 to the public
00:08:58.780 and that's what
00:09:00.420 we have been doing.
00:09:01.940 That's one part
00:09:02.980 of the story.
00:09:03.940 The more interesting
00:09:04.720 part of the story
00:09:05.560 actually isn't
00:09:06.600 the governmental part.
00:09:08.220 It's the fact
00:09:09.620 that our team
00:09:11.440 in the 90s
00:09:12.600 and up till now
00:09:13.400 had developed protocols
00:09:14.640 where we could
00:09:16.100 interact with
00:09:17.340 these civilizations
00:09:18.220 and vector them
00:09:20.300 into a site
00:09:21.100 like you would vector
00:09:21.980 a jet into JFK Airport.
00:09:24.480 And the movie
00:09:25.600 Close Encounters
00:09:26.340 of the Fifth Kind
00:09:27.300 is sort of a two-hour
00:09:28.360 tour
00:09:28.980 through what we've been doing
00:09:31.480 and what the results
00:09:32.580 have been.
00:09:33.000 And for people
00:09:34.160 who see it,
00:09:34.660 it's sort of shocking
00:09:35.460 when they realize this.
00:09:38.300 And what I tell people
00:09:40.240 is that when you're
00:09:41.940 dealing with civilizations
00:09:43.020 and actually
00:09:44.040 the CIA director's wife,
00:09:45.460 who at the time
00:09:46.040 was the chief operating
00:09:47.020 officer of the National
00:09:48.580 Academy of Sciences,
00:09:50.260 said to me
00:09:52.460 during our two-
00:09:53.580 or three-hour meeting
00:09:54.420 with the CIA director,
00:09:55.940 she turned to me,
00:09:56.540 she said,
00:09:56.960 how are these civilizations
00:09:58.560 communicating
00:10:00.000 across the vastness
00:10:01.600 of interstellar space?
00:10:03.500 Because the speed
00:10:04.300 of light is too slow.
00:10:06.380 And for people
00:10:06.980 who aren't scientists
00:10:07.660 on your viewership,
00:10:09.300 let me explain.
00:10:11.120 At the speed of light,
00:10:12.920 to go 1% of the way
00:10:14.720 across our own galaxy,
00:10:16.240 the Milky Way,
00:10:17.560 would take,
00:10:18.760 which is 1,000 light years,
00:10:20.800 which is the distance
00:10:21.780 light goes at 186,000 miles
00:10:25.040 every second for a year.
00:10:27.560 That's one light year.
00:10:28.760 1,000 light years
00:10:29.860 is 1% of the way
00:10:31.260 across our galaxy,
00:10:32.780 which is one galaxy
00:10:33.800 amongst trillions.
00:10:35.420 But at the speed of light,
00:10:37.480 for you to even communicate
00:10:38.640 and say,
00:10:39.060 hey, how are you doing?
00:10:40.380 And to answer back,
00:10:41.940 that would be the time
00:10:42.820 since the birth of Christ,
00:10:44.000 2,000 years,
00:10:45.040 for that transmission
00:10:46.080 to happen with what you
00:10:47.260 and I are using right now
00:10:48.580 on electromagnetic signals.
00:10:51.240 So we knew as scientists
00:10:53.520 that there had to be
00:10:56.600 something else
00:10:57.560 that these civilizations
00:10:59.020 were using.
00:11:00.420 And what we discovered
00:11:01.400 was that they have
00:11:02.480 very sophisticated electronics.
00:11:05.940 And this is, of course,
00:11:06.660 what Elon Musk
00:11:07.560 at Neuralink,
00:11:09.700 he has a company
00:11:10.360 called Neuralink,
00:11:11.060 is working on,
00:11:12.500 that interface
00:11:13.240 with directed thought.
00:11:15.560 Now, this is probably
00:11:16.260 where I've lost
00:11:16.760 half your audience.
00:11:17.840 And they're going,
00:11:18.260 what?
00:11:19.580 And the reality is
00:11:20.780 there's an area
00:11:21.660 of what's called
00:11:22.300 the science of consciousness,
00:11:24.440 field consciousness,
00:11:25.260 where at Princeton
00:11:27.020 with Dr. John,
00:11:28.660 who is an engineering professor,
00:11:30.880 discovered that
00:11:31.780 he could set up
00:11:32.700 a technology,
00:11:33.720 a random number generator
00:11:34.940 that spits out
00:11:36.220 random zeros and ones
00:11:37.840 and put someone in a room
00:11:39.420 and have that person
00:11:40.680 intend through their thought,
00:11:43.020 not touching it,
00:11:44.100 no wires,
00:11:45.020 for the random number generator
00:11:46.620 to spit out
00:11:47.340 more ones than zeros.
00:11:48.580 And it would.
00:11:49.920 And it did it consistently.
00:11:50.900 And so he began
00:11:53.140 to ask the question,
00:11:54.480 how can the consciousness
00:11:57.540 field and thought
00:11:58.600 affect a quantum
00:12:00.720 random number generator,
00:12:02.780 which is what he was using?
00:12:04.360 And so that unleashed
00:12:06.580 an entire area of physics,
00:12:08.200 which people think
00:12:09.060 sounds very obtuse
00:12:11.440 and sort of mystical,
00:12:14.660 but it isn't.
00:12:16.160 And what we had discovered
00:12:18.380 when I was younger
00:12:19.360 is that, in fact,
00:12:20.920 these civilizations
00:12:21.980 that are from various
00:12:22.960 star systems
00:12:23.760 have technologies
00:12:25.800 that Elon Musk
00:12:27.640 could only dream about.
00:12:29.120 In other words,
00:12:29.760 they very accurately
00:12:30.940 transmit
00:12:32.120 and send
00:12:33.540 and receive
00:12:34.540 directed
00:12:35.780 quanta
00:12:36.620 of thought
00:12:37.640 instead of an
00:12:38.480 electromagnetic signal
00:12:39.620 per se
00:12:40.160 through
00:12:41.120 what's called
00:12:42.000 field consciousness.
00:12:43.720 And conscious,
00:12:44.360 the consciousness field
00:12:45.580 is,
00:12:47.520 I mean,
00:12:47.680 it sounds very
00:12:48.200 Buddhist or Vedic,
00:12:49.580 but the consciousness field
00:12:51.040 is actually
00:12:51.920 not bound
00:12:53.200 by space-time,
00:12:55.080 space or time.
00:12:56.580 And because of that,
00:12:58.340 there's no
00:12:59.080 limit on the speed of it.
00:13:01.240 It's instantaneous
00:13:02.160 because of what's called
00:13:04.040 non-locality
00:13:05.060 in physics.
00:13:05.640 It's a bit
00:13:06.380 obtuse
00:13:07.460 and technical
00:13:09.300 to get into
00:13:09.900 probably here,
00:13:10.500 but what non-locality
00:13:12.220 means is that
00:13:13.180 it's not
00:13:14.120 based in the speed,
00:13:15.840 the linear speed
00:13:16.740 of light
00:13:17.280 or the linear speed
00:13:19.280 of sound
00:13:19.760 or what have you.
00:13:20.660 It's instantaneous
00:13:21.700 because of the nature
00:13:23.820 of conscious
00:13:24.820 field,
00:13:26.280 the field
00:13:26.960 of consciousness.
00:13:28.240 And this is,
00:13:29.560 to me,
00:13:30.060 the most interesting
00:13:31.040 stuff
00:13:31.560 because this whole
00:13:33.480 science of consciousness
00:13:34.440 is actually
00:13:35.100 the big science
00:13:36.020 for the next
00:13:36.520 1,000 years,
00:13:38.120 but we have to
00:13:38.900 catch up
00:13:39.380 to the last
00:13:40.080 70 to 100 years
00:13:41.620 of energy
00:13:42.880 and propulsion
00:13:43.660 technologies
00:13:44.380 that have been
00:13:44.820 hidden away
00:13:45.500 so we don't
00:13:46.660 destroy the biosphere.
00:13:48.740 But this is
00:13:49.700 what really led me
00:13:51.160 to leave my medical
00:13:52.280 career a few years ago
00:13:53.420 and say,
00:13:54.260 you know what,
00:13:55.180 this has got to
00:13:56.160 get addressed
00:13:56.680 in some sort
00:13:57.340 of a credible way.
00:13:58.920 So we started
00:13:59.600 this research project
00:14:00.800 to do that.
00:14:01.920 And
00:14:02.020 A Close Encounter
00:14:03.460 of the Fifth Kind,
00:14:04.420 this documentary,
00:14:05.660 what that is,
00:14:07.040 is when humans
00:14:08.500 initiate
00:14:09.220 the contact
00:14:09.880 with these
00:14:10.740 civilizations
00:14:11.280 and they respond.
00:14:13.160 That's what a
00:14:13.580 CE5 shorthand
00:14:15.340 is.
00:14:16.540 And so we've
00:14:17.160 also developed
00:14:17.900 an app,
00:14:18.420 it's called
00:14:18.840 the CE5
00:14:19.620 Contact App,
00:14:20.920 it's on all
00:14:21.240 the stores,
00:14:22.080 you know,
00:14:22.380 Google and
00:14:22.900 iTunes,
00:14:23.940 so that people
00:14:25.300 can learn
00:14:26.760 how to do
00:14:27.600 the techniques
00:14:29.340 to do this.
00:14:30.460 And now we have
00:14:31.160 100,000 people
00:14:32.340 around doing it,
00:14:33.140 having all these
00:14:33.720 amazing experiences
00:14:35.320 with these objects
00:14:36.180 going up.
00:14:37.200 Can we get a little
00:14:37.740 bit more deeper
00:14:38.200 into this?
00:14:38.580 Because here's
00:14:39.020 what I want,
00:14:39.320 I want the audience
00:14:40.660 that's watching this
00:14:41.580 that doesn't speak
00:14:42.600 your language.
00:14:43.140 So assume
00:14:43.940 none of us
00:14:44.560 are physicists,
00:14:45.360 none of us
00:14:45.660 are doctors,
00:14:46.700 we're regular
00:14:47.260 people that run
00:14:48.020 businesses,
00:14:48.680 companies,
00:14:49.160 investors,
00:14:49.800 founders,
00:14:50.640 we're trying to
00:14:51.060 get smarter,
00:14:51.700 so when you use
00:14:52.220 the bigger words,
00:14:52.960 you lose us
00:14:53.460 immediately.
00:14:54.640 But I learned
00:14:55.340 when you're saying
00:14:55.860 186 miles a
00:14:57.440 second for one
00:14:58.320 year is a light
00:14:58.940 year,
00:14:59.060 I didn't know
00:14:59.400 that before,
00:14:59.880 so I feel smarter
00:15:00.560 just hearing that
00:15:01.160 fact from you.
00:15:02.220 Let's go back
00:15:02.820 to the basics.
00:15:03.380 Let's go back
00:15:03.940 to the basics.
00:15:04.500 Sure.
00:15:05.100 You said something
00:15:05.900 very interesting
00:15:06.680 to go back to.
00:15:07.720 You said that
00:15:09.360 when Eisenhower
00:15:10.700 gave this speech
00:15:11.740 and you're talking
00:15:12.940 about a five-star
00:15:13.680 general in the past
00:15:14.820 or even the
00:15:15.920 Clinton situation
00:15:17.100 or even some
00:15:17.780 other presidents,
00:15:18.880 are you saying
00:15:19.560 some of these
00:15:20.140 projects that
00:15:20.800 they're working
00:15:21.280 on with UFOs
00:15:22.500 are unidentified,
00:15:23.840 you know,
00:15:24.360 let's just talk
00:15:25.220 about UFOs first
00:15:26.120 and aliens,
00:15:27.160 are you talking
00:15:27.800 about this is a
00:15:28.680 project that's
00:15:29.440 even bigger than
00:15:30.520 a president
00:15:31.640 of the United
00:15:32.200 States,
00:15:32.880 meaning it's not
00:15:33.540 even at that
00:15:34.100 level,
00:15:34.400 that some of
00:15:34.860 the stuff
00:15:35.140 they're not
00:15:35.460 even going to
00:15:35.820 know.
00:15:36.600 It's classified
00:15:37.460 beyond the
00:15:38.400 normal briefing
00:15:39.540 for the president,
00:15:40.880 yes.
00:15:41.820 And what does
00:15:43.020 that mean?
00:15:43.560 So you know
00:15:44.020 when Obama
00:15:45.900 became a
00:15:46.420 president first
00:15:47.200 and he went
00:15:47.760 on Jimmy
00:15:48.380 Kimmel and
00:15:49.620 he sat there
00:15:50.240 and they asked
00:15:50.660 him a question
00:15:51.240 and, you know,
00:15:52.380 Jimmy says,
00:15:52.860 look, if I was
00:15:53.400 a president first,
00:15:54.100 the first thing
00:15:54.480 I would do is,
00:15:55.020 okay, I'm
00:15:55.260 president, I'm
00:15:55.820 going to go
00:15:56.060 get checked
00:15:56.500 out to see
00:15:57.000 if there's
00:15:57.680 really aliens
00:15:58.340 and then Obama
00:15:59.160 says that's why
00:15:59.740 you're not a
00:16:00.380 president,
00:16:01.000 you know,
00:16:01.260 because,
00:16:02.180 and he says,
00:16:02.600 yeah, but tell
00:16:03.160 me, do aliens
00:16:03.960 exist?
00:16:05.020 And then,
00:16:05.380 because Bill
00:16:05.960 Clinton said
00:16:06.600 no, and then
00:16:07.740 Obama said,
00:16:08.440 well, that's
00:16:08.740 what we're
00:16:08.980 supposed to
00:16:09.600 tell you,
00:16:10.120 that's what
00:16:10.400 we're told
00:16:10.780 to tell you.
00:16:11.780 And then
00:16:12.000 recently they
00:16:12.660 asked Trump,
00:16:13.360 I think Tucker
00:16:13.880 Carlson asked
00:16:14.540 Trump about
00:16:16.360 the presidents,
00:16:17.740 I'm sure you
00:16:18.180 saw that,
00:16:19.080 when Tucker
00:16:19.540 asked Trump,
00:16:20.220 hey, so what
00:16:20.600 do you think
00:16:20.980 about UFOs?
00:16:22.200 And he says,
00:16:22.800 I'm not a
00:16:23.320 believer, but
00:16:23.840 anything is
00:16:24.500 possible.
00:16:25.420 He said that
00:16:26.240 on the
00:16:28.280 interview with
00:16:28.720 Tucker Carlson.
00:16:29.380 Are these,
00:16:30.660 are presidents,
00:16:31.620 you think like
00:16:32.240 the situation
00:16:33.100 where the
00:16:33.600 average citizen
00:16:34.240 is thinking
00:16:34.620 about, well,
00:16:34.980 they become a
00:16:35.440 president and
00:16:35.960 they take
00:16:36.340 him to Area
00:16:36.780 51, they
00:16:37.520 show him what
00:16:38.460 aliens look 0.97
00:16:39.100 like, they
00:16:39.460 show him what
00:16:39.920 kind of
00:16:40.200 spaceships we
00:16:40.840 have, and
00:16:41.640 then they're
00:16:41.940 supposed to
00:16:42.360 keep their
00:16:42.660 mouth shut and
00:16:43.240 they get all
00:16:43.660 that information.
00:16:44.400 Does that
00:16:44.780 happen or is
00:16:45.340 that just in
00:16:45.780 movies?
00:16:46.080 That's just
00:16:47.540 in movies, and
00:16:49.160 it depends on
00:16:49.800 the president.
00:16:50.480 Let me give
00:16:50.940 you an example.
00:16:52.240 In the case
00:16:52.740 of, we had a
00:16:53.540 president years
00:16:54.200 ago named
00:16:54.680 Ronald Reagan,
00:16:55.340 and he was
00:16:57.040 briefed in a
00:16:59.060 limited way on
00:17:00.360 the subject, but
00:17:01.700 with a
00:17:03.140 psychological
00:17:04.200 warfare objective
00:17:05.980 to get him to
00:17:07.360 support SDI,
00:17:09.440 space, you
00:17:10.220 know, the
00:17:10.420 so-called Star
00:17:11.220 Wars objects in
00:17:12.240 space.
00:17:13.340 And they're
00:17:15.060 in a bubble.
00:17:15.860 You know, I
00:17:16.140 mean, Truman
00:17:17.060 said, and then
00:17:17.780 Clinton repeated
00:17:18.520 that the White 0.90
00:17:19.200 House is the
00:17:19.820 crown jewel of
00:17:21.100 the federal
00:17:21.540 penitentiary
00:17:22.260 system, and
00:17:23.380 that really is
00:17:24.160 true.
00:17:24.940 So everyone
00:17:25.660 thinks that you
00:17:26.460 come out of
00:17:27.280 the, whether
00:17:27.880 you're a
00:17:28.480 businessman like
00:17:29.260 Trump or a
00:17:30.200 peanut farmer
00:17:30.760 like Jimmy
00:17:31.300 Carter, and you
00:17:32.560 become president
00:17:33.300 and you have
00:17:34.200 an absolute
00:17:34.940 all-access
00:17:35.760 pass.
00:17:36.620 And that is
00:17:37.340 true for
00:17:37.920 conventional
00:17:38.520 intelligence and
00:17:40.100 military operations.
00:17:41.740 But the
00:17:42.220 unconventional
00:17:42.980 ones, and the
00:17:44.040 proper name of
00:17:44.860 that is an
00:17:46.360 unacknowledged
00:17:47.340 special access
00:17:48.620 project, USAP.
00:17:50.800 In fact, there's
00:17:51.660 a documentary that
00:17:52.900 came out three
00:17:53.560 years ago that's
00:17:54.300 on Netflix, if
00:17:55.500 you have Netflix,
00:17:56.740 called Unacknowledged
00:17:58.120 that we did.
00:17:59.520 It's globally, it's
00:18:00.540 had over 600
00:18:01.220 million views that
00:18:02.820 you can see.
00:18:04.220 The new
00:18:05.060 documentary is a
00:18:06.680 follow-on to
00:18:07.640 that one.
00:18:08.660 But the
00:18:09.860 unacknowledged
00:18:10.520 special access
00:18:11.220 projects is the
00:18:12.080 proper military
00:18:13.120 term for
00:18:14.800 projects that
00:18:15.580 are off the
00:18:16.340 books, deep
00:18:17.460 black, and no 0.99
00:18:18.940 one is briefed
00:18:19.800 on them who
00:18:20.960 is not, doesn't
00:18:22.680 have a need to
00:18:23.260 know.
00:18:23.960 So you would
00:18:24.740 say, well, the
00:18:25.340 president has a
00:18:26.060 need to know
00:18:26.440 everything.
00:18:27.320 But those
00:18:27.840 projects have
00:18:29.540 irrigated to
00:18:30.360 themselves the
00:18:31.160 fact that, oh,
00:18:32.000 no, you don't.
00:18:33.380 And let me give
00:18:33.880 you an example.
00:18:34.720 I want to make
00:18:36.100 this less abstract
00:18:37.060 and more concrete
00:18:37.900 for people.
00:18:38.780 I was at the
00:18:40.200 Pentagon briefing
00:18:41.160 what's called
00:18:43.540 J2, the head
00:18:44.860 of intelligence
00:18:45.580 joint staff.
00:18:46.960 So you were in
00:18:47.660 the military.
00:18:48.320 So this is the
00:18:48.940 guy who is the
00:18:49.940 director of
00:18:51.080 intelligence for
00:18:52.300 the briefings for
00:18:53.220 the Joint Chiefs
00:18:53.900 of Staff of the
00:18:54.580 United States.
00:18:55.620 And he had
00:18:57.580 asked to have a
00:18:59.140 briefing by me and
00:19:00.460 some of the people
00:19:01.020 on my team because
00:19:02.940 one of my team
00:19:03.620 members knew him
00:19:04.640 and had reached
00:19:05.520 out.
00:19:05.880 Before I went
00:19:07.120 to the briefing,
00:19:08.420 I sent him a
00:19:09.300 document through
00:19:09.980 Courier that was
00:19:12.520 a briefing summary
00:19:14.080 and the top
00:19:15.300 document on it
00:19:16.420 was a document
00:19:17.680 that listed some
00:19:18.640 of the code
00:19:19.240 names and code
00:19:20.080 numbers for those
00:19:20.820 projects.
00:19:22.500 Based on that,
00:19:23.480 he recognized
00:19:24.180 one of them.
00:19:24.780 He wasn't sure
00:19:25.180 what they did and
00:19:25.760 he contacted them.
00:19:27.400 And basically,
00:19:28.100 he was threatened.
00:19:29.840 The first thing
00:19:31.040 they said to him
00:19:31.780 was, this is
00:19:32.660 Admiral Tom
00:19:33.360 Wilson, by the
00:19:34.080 way.
00:19:34.320 Admiral Wilson
00:19:35.920 was told, sir,
00:19:36.960 you don't have a
00:19:37.500 need to know.
00:19:38.960 And he said,
00:19:39.460 goddammit, how
00:19:40.180 can I not have a
00:19:40.940 need to know?
00:19:42.080 I'm the head of
00:19:43.100 intelligence for the
00:19:43.900 Joint Chiefs of
00:19:44.520 Staff.
00:19:45.260 And they said,
00:19:45.900 sir, we will not 0.89
00:19:46.560 discuss this with
00:19:47.520 you.
00:19:48.240 When he continued
00:19:49.080 to push on the
00:19:49.880 matter, he was
00:19:51.040 threatened with
00:19:51.820 being demoted and
00:19:53.520 having a star taken
00:19:54.500 off his lapel.
00:19:55.880 So you can imagine
00:19:57.000 by the time
00:19:57.600 astronaut Edgar
00:19:58.480 Mitchell, who was
00:19:59.300 the sixth man to
00:20:00.000 walk on the moon,
00:20:01.240 and I and some of
00:20:02.320 our people walked
00:20:03.120 into that office,
00:20:04.320 because this
00:20:05.060 happened before
00:20:05.640 my stand-up
00:20:06.640 briefing at the
00:20:07.620 Pentagon, he was
00:20:09.740 furious but
00:20:10.740 scared.
00:20:12.300 And so the
00:20:13.160 public thinks
00:20:14.320 that, you know,
00:20:15.800 God is in
00:20:17.100 heaven and
00:20:17.800 everything is in
00:20:18.780 orbit and
00:20:19.440 everything is,
00:20:20.320 we actually are
00:20:21.660 living in a
00:20:22.580 situation where
00:20:24.740 the extreme
00:20:26.000 secrecy, Eisenhower
00:20:27.200 warned us about,
00:20:28.480 the worst of that
00:20:29.500 has come to
00:20:30.020 fruition.
00:20:30.960 And frankly, no
00:20:32.220 one is reporting
00:20:32.940 that, certainly
00:20:33.880 not the
00:20:34.320 mainstream news
00:20:35.180 media.
00:20:36.340 So what has
00:20:37.160 happened and
00:20:37.800 what sort of
00:20:38.840 through the
00:20:39.420 looking glass
00:20:40.060 that happened
00:20:40.500 to me was
00:20:41.640 that from that
00:20:42.500 experience, I
00:20:43.580 then had a
00:20:44.160 briefing a couple
00:20:45.140 years later with
00:20:46.420 General Patrick
00:20:47.300 Hughes.
00:20:48.460 Now, for people
00:20:49.080 who don't know
00:20:49.420 who he was, he
00:20:50.100 was the three-star
00:20:50.960 general who is
00:20:52.300 the director of
00:20:53.160 the Defense
00:20:53.720 Intelligence Agency,
00:20:55.140 which is like the
00:20:55.920 CIA for the
00:20:56.860 Pentagon.
00:20:57.360 It's the big
00:20:57.820 clearing operation
00:20:59.520 for intelligence
00:21:00.920 gathering and
00:21:02.240 assessments and
00:21:03.080 analysts.
00:21:04.420 And the
00:21:04.960 director of the
00:21:05.900 Defense Intelligence
00:21:06.640 Agency, General
00:21:07.560 Hughes, had
00:21:08.780 made inquiries
00:21:10.700 through proper
00:21:11.420 channels onto
00:21:12.380 this subject, and
00:21:13.800 he was denied
00:21:14.600 access.
00:21:15.720 So I was asked
00:21:16.860 to come in with
00:21:17.780 my military advisor
00:21:18.960 and a couple
00:21:19.500 other people to
00:21:20.800 brief him, and
00:21:22.200 he told the
00:21:22.900 same story.
00:21:23.960 In fact, he
00:21:24.420 went over to his
00:21:25.240 bookshelf.
00:21:25.860 Now, imagine
00:21:26.420 this.
00:21:27.480 I'm at the
00:21:28.000 Pentagon, where
00:21:29.200 the generals and
00:21:29.880 admirals, that
00:21:30.420 part of the
00:21:30.900 Pentagon, he
00:21:32.020 goes over in
00:21:32.980 his conference
00:21:33.560 room, goes
00:21:35.340 over to his
00:21:36.140 bookshelf, picks
00:21:37.300 up a little
00:21:37.900 E.T.
00:21:38.480 doll like you'd
00:21:39.160 get at a
00:21:39.620 store, toy
00:21:40.300 store, and he
00:21:41.380 said, furiously,
00:21:43.160 he says, this
00:21:44.520 is all I've
00:21:45.880 ever gotten in
00:21:47.680 my inquiry about
00:21:48.640 this through
00:21:49.320 channels as the
00:21:50.620 director of the
00:21:51.460 Defense Intelligence
00:21:52.420 Agency.
00:21:53.840 So he was
00:21:55.300 furious, obviously,
00:21:56.860 and I said, look,
00:21:57.680 you're not the, he
00:21:58.180 says, well, who
00:21:58.680 else is in this
00:21:59.460 situation?
00:22:00.480 I said, well, the
00:22:01.340 president, the
00:22:02.220 director of the
00:22:02.820 CIA, J2, Admiral
00:22:05.380 Wilson, yourself, a
00:22:07.260 couple of the
00:22:07.760 members of the
00:22:08.320 Senate Intelligence
00:22:09.060 Committee I have
00:22:09.760 briefed, etc.
00:22:11.680 Ironically, one of
00:22:12.440 them was Senator
00:22:13.000 Dick Bryan, whose
00:22:14.400 territory was so
00:22:15.360 called Area 51,
00:22:16.620 Nellis Air Force
00:22:17.300 Base, and he had no
00:22:18.660 knowledge of this.
00:22:20.240 So, now, when I say
00:22:21.920 this, I want to
00:22:22.700 clarify something.
00:22:23.960 There have been
00:22:24.860 DCIs, directors of
00:22:27.060 central intelligence
00:22:27.840 who have been read
00:22:29.240 in or briefed.
00:22:30.220 There have been
00:22:31.140 DIA generals who
00:22:32.960 did know.
00:22:34.160 And people say, well,
00:22:34.780 why do some know and
00:22:35.740 some don't?
00:22:36.840 It's whether they've
00:22:37.940 come up with the
00:22:38.740 pedigree through these
00:22:40.720 USAP, unacknowledged
00:22:42.580 black, black, super
00:22:44.100 black projects, and are
00:22:46.340 trusted to keep the
00:22:47.440 secret.
00:22:48.420 So if they've come up
00:22:49.440 through that system,
00:22:50.780 they may know.
00:22:52.380 If they haven't come up
00:22:53.480 through that system,
00:22:54.220 which is an
00:22:54.680 alternative reality,
00:22:55.760 frankly, they're not
00:22:57.220 going to know because
00:22:58.060 they haven't been
00:22:59.100 cleared and read into
00:23:00.940 it, and it's not
00:23:02.220 known by the people
00:23:03.140 controlling those
00:23:03.820 projects that they
00:23:05.100 would, in fact,
00:23:05.940 maintain the strict
00:23:07.020 level of secrecy.
00:23:08.940 And this is not just
00:23:11.460 the United States, by
00:23:12.500 the way.
00:23:12.800 The same situation
00:23:13.800 exists in Great
00:23:15.060 Britain, Australia.
00:23:16.280 I've met with
00:23:17.320 ministers of defense
00:23:18.880 in most of the
00:23:20.720 Five Eyes
00:23:21.540 countries, which are,
00:23:22.900 of course, New
00:23:24.060 Zealand, Australia,
00:23:25.260 Canada, Great
00:23:26.080 Britain, US.
00:23:27.420 And in fact, except
00:23:28.420 for New Zealand, I've
00:23:29.400 met with MOD or
00:23:31.280 defense folks in all
00:23:33.360 those countries.
00:23:34.780 And it's an
00:23:36.120 enormous problem
00:23:37.160 because we're
00:23:38.640 talking about a
00:23:39.280 major dysfunction
00:23:40.360 of the Constitution
00:23:42.340 and rule of law
00:23:43.280 on arguably the
00:23:44.840 biggest secret in
00:23:45.960 the history of the
00:23:46.520 United States.
00:23:47.900 And when that
00:23:49.600 happens, a lot of
00:23:51.140 bad things.
00:23:51.820 things will
00:23:53.040 occur.
00:23:53.600 Things go wrong
00:23:54.560 when things are
00:23:56.140 not being overseen
00:23:57.920 properly and
00:23:58.760 controlled properly.
00:23:59.820 And that's the
00:24:00.420 situation we face.
00:24:02.000 So what I
00:24:02.420 concluded by the
00:24:03.820 year 2001,
00:24:06.020 which was, of
00:24:06.860 course, now 19
00:24:07.680 years ago,
00:24:09.220 in May,
00:24:10.280 this is almost
00:24:10.780 the 19th
00:24:11.700 anniversary,
00:24:12.700 on 2001,
00:24:14.060 May 9th, at the
00:24:15.080 National Press
00:24:15.720 Club, we held a
00:24:17.240 briefing for the
00:24:18.480 press.
00:24:18.840 press, and I
00:24:19.740 had 22 top
00:24:20.940 secret military
00:24:21.740 people there.
00:24:23.500 And it was
00:24:24.960 covered globally,
00:24:26.900 but as it began to
00:24:28.260 get covered by the
00:24:29.280 news media in the
00:24:30.140 United States, the
00:24:31.960 intelligence community
00:24:33.000 contacted those media
00:24:34.340 outlets and told them
00:24:35.700 to take it down, and
00:24:37.060 they did.
00:24:38.240 So the other myth
00:24:39.780 that people have is
00:24:41.040 that on the things
00:24:42.500 that are really
00:24:43.200 important, that we
00:24:44.620 have a free press.
00:24:46.100 We do not.
00:24:46.780 Actually, the
00:24:48.220 Soviet Union had a
00:24:49.400 freer press than we
00:24:50.200 do on this.
00:24:51.520 So, ironically,
00:24:53.520 there's a really
00:24:54.620 big problem with
00:24:56.320 the U.S.
00:24:57.380 function because
00:24:58.560 of this level of,
00:25:00.180 frankly, corruption.
00:25:01.540 There's nothing
00:25:01.900 else to call it
00:25:02.620 but corruption.
00:25:04.440 And it has really
00:25:05.580 hurt our democracy,
00:25:06.520 but it's also
00:25:07.220 hurting our
00:25:07.960 economy.
00:25:09.860 People often
00:25:10.700 say, you know,
00:25:11.280 why are we
00:25:12.960 still using
00:25:13.820 jet engines
00:25:14.940 from the
00:25:15.720 30s, 40s, 50s,
00:25:17.140 or rockets
00:25:18.500 from the
00:25:19.080 40s?
00:25:19.760 I'm saying
00:25:20.400 because the
00:25:21.000 alternative would
00:25:22.700 completely terminate
00:25:23.940 the petrodollar
00:25:25.220 system and oil
00:25:26.740 and gas
00:25:27.500 and coal
00:25:28.100 and nuclear
00:25:28.760 power
00:25:29.220 and public
00:25:30.040 utilities.
00:25:30.820 All of it is
00:25:31.680 redundant,
00:25:32.420 completely
00:25:32.840 unnecessary.
00:25:34.180 Now, people
00:25:35.220 say, well, then
00:25:36.020 the cure may be
00:25:36.740 worse than the
00:25:37.260 disease.
00:25:37.760 I said, no,
00:25:38.780 there's no
00:25:39.140 disease worse
00:25:39.960 than a terminal
00:25:40.900 event for the
00:25:41.720 biosphere.
00:25:42.800 So, going back
00:25:43.680 to when you were
00:25:44.240 talking about
00:25:44.700 those organizations
00:25:45.420 that are separate
00:25:46.220 than even the
00:25:47.800 director of CIA
00:25:48.960 or any of our
00:25:49.620 leaders knowing,
00:25:50.960 who are they
00:25:51.520 recruiting that's
00:25:52.380 different, that's
00:25:53.240 underground that we
00:25:53.960 don't know about?
00:25:54.480 Are they recruiting
00:25:55.240 military folks or
00:25:56.840 they're recruiting
00:25:57.420 different backgrounds?
00:25:59.360 Both.
00:25:59.800 I mean, I know
00:26:00.560 scientists who
00:26:01.400 work in SCIFs,
00:26:02.880 Secure Communication
00:26:03.980 Information Facilities,
00:26:05.560 it's got a SCIF,
00:26:06.880 who are civilian
00:26:08.100 who work on these
00:26:08.920 projects.
00:26:09.940 I know corporate
00:26:10.820 folks with
00:26:12.140 science applications,
00:26:13.120 International Corporation
00:26:14.440 or Lockheed Skunk
00:26:15.460 Works, my uncle's
00:26:16.640 old company,
00:26:17.340 Northrop Grumman.
00:26:18.740 There's a lot of
00:26:19.740 contracting, but it's
00:26:21.340 very, very highly
00:26:22.160 compartmented.
00:26:23.300 In the government,
00:26:24.320 it's similarly highly
00:26:25.460 compartmented.
00:26:27.420 And the proper name,
00:26:28.720 you know, people use
00:26:30.580 the term deep state.
00:26:32.180 It's an incorrect term.
00:26:33.520 The proper term is an
00:26:34.660 unacknowledged special
00:26:35.920 access project.
00:26:37.700 You know, it's a good
00:26:38.220 tutorial for the
00:26:39.120 president to learn the
00:26:40.020 proper lingo, frankly,
00:26:41.700 for this.
00:26:43.320 And this is the
00:26:44.080 world I've been
00:26:44.700 steeped in for 30
00:26:46.200 years now.
00:26:46.800 But I think we
00:26:48.200 have a situation
00:26:49.460 where the
00:26:50.680 corporate
00:26:51.620 classified
00:26:52.860 sector is
00:26:55.000 where the
00:26:56.020 research and
00:26:56.820 development and
00:26:57.680 technology
00:26:58.240 is mainly
00:27:00.380 happening,
00:27:01.120 but under the
00:27:02.040 aegis of
00:27:02.760 USAP,
00:27:03.740 unacknowledged
00:27:04.300 special access
00:27:04.920 projects from the
00:27:06.220 military and
00:27:07.120 intelligence community.
00:27:08.080 So it's sort of a
00:27:09.580 hybrid
00:27:10.000 operation between
00:27:12.180 a corporate
00:27:13.000 and a governmental
00:27:14.600 very top secret
00:27:15.580 program.
00:27:16.340 That's interesting to
00:27:17.300 know that because it's
00:27:18.000 even a whole different
00:27:18.560 level than a CIA or
00:27:20.100 a Delta Force.
00:27:22.140 You're talking about
00:27:22.980 a league of its own
00:27:24.200 is what it is.
00:27:24.760 So you mentioned
00:27:25.900 earlier that one of
00:27:27.260 the reasons why
00:27:28.160 maybe these
00:27:29.820 conversations are not
00:27:30.780 being had because
00:27:31.640 many industries would
00:27:32.840 take a big hit.
00:27:34.500 And so to control
00:27:35.660 it, I think it's a
00:27:36.720 quote you gave about
00:27:37.660 when Tesla was
00:27:39.220 able to build a
00:27:40.260 car without an
00:27:41.120 engine or without
00:27:41.880 a battery.
00:27:43.120 And I think he was
00:27:43.800 talking to an
00:27:44.680 entrepreneur at the
00:27:45.500 time.
00:27:45.680 I don't know if it
00:27:46.080 was Edison or
00:27:46.900 Ford.
00:27:48.380 Who was it he was
00:27:49.040 talking to?
00:27:49.200 He was talking to
00:27:49.960 JP Morgan.
00:27:50.920 He was talking to
00:27:51.420 JP Morgan.
00:27:52.280 Tesla actually had
00:27:55.100 a prototype car
00:27:57.440 that was pulling
00:27:58.760 energy out of the
00:28:00.060 environment.
00:28:02.440 And he didn't
00:28:03.280 really understand
00:28:03.920 what that was.
00:28:05.520 We do now.
00:28:06.340 It's called zero
00:28:07.040 point energy or
00:28:08.060 quantum vacuum
00:28:08.880 energy.
00:28:10.260 But basically,
00:28:11.980 just for people who
00:28:13.200 are non-scientific,
00:28:15.220 not scientists,
00:28:17.180 if you visualize a
00:28:19.220 coffee cup, the
00:28:20.180 amount of space
00:28:20.960 inside that cup has
00:28:22.740 enough energy to
00:28:24.080 boil off all the
00:28:25.260 oceans of the
00:28:26.100 planet and its
00:28:27.780 potential.
00:28:28.760 And it's called the
00:28:29.380 zero point energy
00:28:30.240 field.
00:28:30.600 It's been quantified.
00:28:31.680 It was in academic
00:28:33.560 papers in the
00:28:34.340 50s, so-called
00:28:35.580 Professor Casimir
00:28:36.780 effect.
00:28:38.400 But Tesla stumbled 0.93
00:28:39.340 across this way back
00:28:41.340 early 20s, I believe,
00:28:42.520 maybe before.
00:28:43.820 But JP Morgan said,
00:28:44.880 look, if we can't put a
00:28:45.880 meter on it, we don't
00:28:47.400 want it.
00:28:48.940 So Tesla died a very
00:28:50.960 bitter man.
00:28:52.000 I always joke that Elon
00:28:53.200 Musk doesn't have a 0.99
00:28:54.200 Tesla that he's
00:28:55.460 manufacturing.
00:28:56.340 He has a Musk.
00:28:57.140 And the reason I say
00:28:58.660 that sort of jokingly
00:28:59.880 is that a true Tesla
00:29:01.920 would never have to be
00:29:03.120 plugged into the grid.
00:29:04.600 It would be pulling
00:29:05.400 energy out of this
00:29:06.640 energy, this state of
00:29:07.920 energy that's around
00:29:09.520 us through very high
00:29:11.260 voltage systems.
00:29:12.720 They're called VHV,
00:29:14.180 very high voltage
00:29:14.980 systems that create
00:29:16.560 an opening into that
00:29:18.560 energy field.
00:29:19.840 And Tesla did enough 0.54
00:29:21.720 experimentation with
00:29:23.460 these sort of very
00:29:24.300 high voltage systems at
00:29:25.680 certain
00:29:26.180 resonant frequencies
00:29:28.060 cycles per second
00:29:29.240 hertz that he broke
00:29:31.500 that he broke into
00:29:32.240 that area of science.
00:29:33.540 But no one wanted it
00:29:34.960 to come out.
00:29:35.840 Now, you know, fast
00:29:36.700 forward 100 years
00:29:37.420 later, we're still
00:29:38.840 burning gasoline and
00:29:40.540 engines and rocket
00:29:41.800 fuel and jets.
00:29:43.120 And that's a tragedy
00:29:44.100 for the human race.
00:29:45.240 But it's a tragedy
00:29:46.080 for the planet.
00:29:47.280 And it's a tragedy
00:29:48.080 for our children and
00:29:49.620 my nine
00:29:51.220 grandchildren.
00:29:52.320 So my concern is,
00:29:54.560 you know, the
00:29:55.500 future.
00:29:56.540 The past is the 0.51
00:29:57.880 past.
00:29:58.920 But we have to
00:29:59.680 figure out how to
00:30:00.460 catch up sort of
00:30:02.020 back to the future.
00:30:03.000 We, you know, it's
00:30:04.340 like that cartoon
00:30:05.340 show, the Jetsons,
00:30:06.820 when they showed
00:30:07.260 people flying around
00:30:08.160 in these cars.
00:30:08.860 When that cartoon
00:30:09.640 was made, those
00:30:10.700 technologies were
00:30:11.540 already developed.
00:30:12.680 Going back to what
00:30:13.260 you said about free
00:30:13.880 press, you were
00:30:15.580 mentioning the fact
00:30:16.360 that we think we
00:30:16.940 have a free press,
00:30:17.960 but we don't.
00:30:18.500 Were you alluding
00:30:19.820 to Project
00:30:20.800 Mockingbird?
00:30:22.460 Yes.
00:30:23.060 Of course,
00:30:23.720 Project Mockingbird and
00:30:24.820 there are others
00:30:25.520 that existed where,
00:30:28.180 for example,
00:30:29.520 a constitutional
00:30:30.240 attorney, Daniel
00:30:31.540 Sheehan, that's in
00:30:32.560 this new documentary,
00:30:34.300 Close Encounters of
00:30:35.180 the Fifth Kind,
00:30:36.700 he states that when
00:30:38.060 he was representing
00:30:39.040 the New York Times
00:30:40.180 in the Pentagon
00:30:41.060 Papers scandal
00:30:43.580 back in the 70s
00:30:44.820 during the Vietnam
00:30:45.400 War, he saw a 0.57
00:30:47.820 document that
00:30:48.820 listed, it listed
00:30:51.120 42 different
00:30:52.940 people who were
00:30:54.740 senior national
00:30:55.660 security editors
00:30:56.720 at major media
00:30:57.960 who were also
00:30:59.480 dual-purposed on
00:31:00.540 the payroll of the
00:31:01.280 CIA.
00:31:02.500 And he thought
00:31:03.140 this was a very
00:31:03.840 significant thing in
00:31:05.220 terms of freedom
00:31:05.880 of the press
00:31:06.540 and independence
00:31:07.140 of the press.
00:31:08.860 But nobody would
00:31:11.080 let that story 0.96
00:31:11.800 get reported
00:31:12.440 because it's
00:31:14.240 scandalously corrupt
00:31:15.980 because the free
00:31:18.560 press and the
00:31:19.560 fourth estate is
00:31:20.520 one of the
00:31:20.960 pillars of a
00:31:22.260 democracy.
00:31:23.640 And that sort
00:31:24.340 of makes a
00:31:28.300 mock, Project
00:31:29.660 Mockingbird made
00:31:30.820 a mockery of
00:31:31.800 that.
00:31:32.900 And then, you
00:31:33.440 know, in my own
00:31:34.440 adventures back
00:31:35.760 in the 90s, I
00:31:36.660 was meeting with
00:31:37.240 Bob Schwartz in
00:31:38.240 New York, he
00:31:39.240 was on the
00:31:39.640 board of
00:31:40.160 Time Life, which
00:31:41.760 became AOL, Time
00:31:42.920 Warner, blah, blah,
00:31:43.740 blah.
00:31:44.800 And, you know, he
00:31:45.840 was an older
00:31:46.620 gentleman who
00:31:48.180 had, you know,
00:31:48.700 good friends with
00:31:49.340 Mike Wallace at
00:31:50.200 60 Minutes and
00:31:51.100 what have you.
00:31:52.100 And I was with
00:31:53.180 him at a
00:31:53.640 gathering in New
00:31:54.420 York.
00:31:54.640 I was doing a
00:31:55.260 briefing for a
00:31:55.940 lot of the New
00:31:57.320 York, I hate to
00:31:58.640 use the word
00:31:59.080 elites, but, you
00:32:00.140 know, leaders, the
00:32:01.900 so-called New
00:32:02.400 York 100.
00:32:02.940 And when I was
00:32:04.740 at this meeting, he
00:32:05.580 turned to me, he
00:32:06.100 says, you know, the
00:32:08.120 fourth estate is
00:32:08.900 dead.
00:32:09.700 I said, what do
00:32:10.100 you mean?
00:32:10.820 He says, we're
00:32:11.420 scribes taking
00:32:12.760 dictation from the
00:32:14.220 right hand of the
00:32:14.840 king.
00:32:15.480 He says, we don't
00:32:16.260 have a fourth
00:32:16.800 estate.
00:32:17.420 There is no free
00:32:18.140 press in the United
00:32:18.800 States on the
00:32:20.140 things that really
00:32:21.100 matter.
00:32:21.960 And then he told
00:32:22.400 me this story.
00:32:24.060 Mr. Schwartz told
00:32:24.840 me this story of, you
00:32:26.180 know, his friend Mike
00:32:26.940 Wallace of 60
00:32:28.280 Minutes was given
00:32:30.200 some documents about
00:32:31.460 these UFO covert
00:32:32.820 programs.
00:32:34.460 And Mike Wallace
00:32:35.280 wanted to do the
00:32:36.000 story.
00:32:36.540 And CBS in 60
00:32:38.460 Minutes say, you
00:32:39.080 will not do this
00:32:40.920 story.
00:32:42.480 And Mike Wallace
00:32:44.620 went into a very
00:32:46.020 deep depression over
00:32:47.080 this, that he later
00:32:47.940 admitted to the
00:32:49.460 public that he was
00:32:50.680 very depressed.
00:32:52.220 And he said on
00:32:53.060 Larry King, I'd
00:32:53.940 been on Larry King
00:32:54.720 around this time, and
00:32:56.240 he said on Larry
00:32:56.920 King Live, which was
00:32:58.200 a post on CNN back
00:32:59.420 in the old days, and
00:33:00.840 he said, I'm a
00:33:02.040 fraud.
00:33:02.820 And Larry said, what
00:33:03.780 do you mean you're a
00:33:04.320 fraud?
00:33:05.580 To Mike Wallace.
00:33:07.080 And he wouldn't go
00:33:07.980 into the details, but
00:33:08.980 this is the back
00:33:09.780 story.
00:33:10.220 Bob Schwartz told
00:33:10.940 me, look, you
00:33:11.980 know, he was
00:33:12.700 devastated that the
00:33:13.760 biggest story that
00:33:15.020 would have been ever
00:33:16.580 in investigative
00:33:17.640 journalism, CBS
00:33:19.520 jumped in and killed
00:33:22.600 it and wouldn't let
00:33:23.640 it be broadcast or
00:33:25.400 even pursued on 60
00:33:27.680 Minutes, which of
00:33:28.460 course, at that
00:33:29.800 time was the
00:33:30.700 blue chip
00:33:31.520 investigative
00:33:32.140 reporting, you
00:33:35.700 know, news
00:33:37.400 magazine on
00:33:38.200 network television.
00:33:40.080 So that's one of
00:33:40.980 the, this is
00:33:41.460 something that's
00:33:42.180 sort of a side
00:33:42.880 issue to what I'm
00:33:43.620 working on, but
00:33:44.840 it's a big part of
00:33:45.760 why when you turn
00:33:47.280 on your television
00:33:48.220 set, even if you
00:33:50.000 get these leaked
00:33:51.320 Pentagon videos that
00:33:52.700 came out, they
00:33:53.560 re-released them this
00:33:54.700 past week.
00:33:55.440 You probably saw
00:33:56.220 them on CNN and
00:33:57.200 elsewhere.
00:33:58.140 They're not going
00:33:58.820 to say, A, we
00:34:00.580 know what these
00:34:01.100 are, B, we
00:34:02.740 know where they
00:34:03.220 come from, C, we
00:34:05.020 figured out how
00:34:05.680 they work.
00:34:07.200 Let me give you a
00:34:07.880 date that's going
00:34:08.400 to probably curl
00:34:09.120 your toes.
00:34:11.180 October 1954.
00:34:13.940 That was the date
00:34:15.120 we mastered gravity
00:34:17.080 control.
00:34:18.400 Now, what do I
00:34:18.900 mean by gravity
00:34:19.540 control?
00:34:20.320 What I mean by
00:34:20.960 gravity control are
00:34:22.700 high voltage systems
00:34:24.100 that cause an
00:34:25.560 object to what
00:34:26.880 looks like levitate
00:34:27.980 or move the way
00:34:28.780 that vehicle that
00:34:30.180 you saw in that
00:34:30.880 video released by
00:34:31.860 the Pentagon this
00:34:32.700 week.
00:34:33.220 And they confirmed,
00:34:34.120 yes, this is real
00:34:34.760 footage, and they
00:34:35.880 released three
00:34:36.380 different videos.
00:34:37.560 What they didn't
00:34:38.620 say, because the
00:34:39.760 people releasing it
00:34:40.720 don't know this,
00:34:41.820 because of the
00:34:42.620 compartmentalization,
00:34:44.600 is that there is
00:34:46.580 an unacknowledged
00:34:47.680 compartmented program
00:34:48.820 that began studying
00:34:50.160 this in the 40s and
00:34:51.100 50s, and by 1954,
00:34:53.180 had figured out how
00:34:54.340 those things
00:34:55.120 operate.
00:34:56.540 So, not to
00:34:57.440 confuse your viewers
00:34:58.500 any more than I
00:34:59.500 probably already
00:35:00.160 have, but, so
00:35:02.960 when you see one of
00:35:03.660 these objects, you
00:35:04.440 have to ask a
00:35:05.060 question, is it a
00:35:06.440 classified aerospace
00:35:08.860 project from the
00:35:10.080 Lockheed Skunk Works,
00:35:11.380 or my uncle's
00:35:12.060 company, North
00:35:12.700 and Drummond, or is
00:35:14.040 it interstellar,
00:35:15.160 extraterrestrial?
00:35:16.300 And both are out
00:35:17.320 there, by the way,
00:35:18.640 but no one's asking
00:35:19.580 the question, is it A
00:35:20.740 or B, and that's a
00:35:22.600 very big fault of
00:35:23.980 the so-called
00:35:25.600 Why are they not
00:35:26.200 asking that?
00:35:27.040 What's the big deal
00:35:27.720 of asking that?
00:35:27.780 They're not asking
00:35:28.300 the right questions,
00:35:29.160 yes.
00:35:29.760 But why not ask that
00:35:30.940 question?
00:35:31.300 It doesn't seem like
00:35:32.020 it's a big deal of a
00:35:32.840 question.
00:35:34.160 Well, because the
00:35:35.700 reportage on this
00:35:36.860 never goes that deep.
00:35:38.240 It gets, it's just,
00:35:39.100 here's something that
00:35:39.860 got released, what is
00:35:40.860 it?
00:35:41.040 We don't know, on to
00:35:42.200 the next story.
00:35:43.760 But do you know why
00:35:44.640 they waited?
00:35:45.160 I mean, this happened
00:35:45.800 in 04, it's not like
00:35:46.880 this happened just
00:35:47.660 three months ago, and
00:35:49.600 even the Navy
00:35:50.780 pilot, I think it's
00:35:51.840 Underwood, Chad
00:35:52.920 Underwood, who was
00:35:54.420 flying it, he says,
00:35:55.860 you know, I saw this
00:35:56.620 thing, and you know,
00:35:57.340 you've seen this
00:35:57.920 before video when he's
00:35:58.760 explaining it, and
00:35:59.460 even ex-UFO program
00:36:01.020 chief Luis Elizondo
00:36:02.660 says, we may not be
00:36:04.020 alone here, you know,
00:36:05.820 why are they waiting
00:36:06.840 from 04 to now to
00:36:08.220 release these three
00:36:08.960 videos?
00:36:10.680 Well, my own
00:36:12.060 assessment of that
00:36:13.080 is about two and a
00:36:16.060 half years ago when
00:36:16.760 they first surfaced,
00:36:17.760 this documentary
00:36:19.520 called Unacknowledged
00:36:20.820 went viral, and
00:36:23.340 literally has had
00:36:24.300 over 600 million
00:36:25.120 people see it.
00:36:26.680 The counterintelligence
00:36:28.420 people at the
00:36:29.600 Pentagon, which
00:36:30.840 includes Luis
00:36:31.820 Elizondo, wanted
00:36:33.900 this footage to
00:36:34.960 come out, but with
00:36:35.880 the narrative that
00:36:37.420 it's a threat to our
00:36:38.860 national security.
00:36:40.020 If you look at the
00:36:41.200 sub-Rosa narrative,
00:36:43.160 most of the
00:36:43.720 narrative, excuse
00:36:44.560 me, there's a beam
00:36:45.680 of light coming
00:36:46.200 from the side.
00:36:47.740 If you look at
00:36:49.460 that narrative, what
00:36:51.840 they have been
00:36:52.620 saying is, yes, this
00:36:53.960 is real, but it's a
00:36:55.620 threat to our air
00:36:56.480 space, it's a threat
00:36:57.360 to our pilots.
00:36:58.160 Why?
00:36:59.120 Well, there's a man
00:37:00.320 named Werner von
00:37:01.220 Brown who invented 1.00
00:37:02.480 the rocket for
00:37:03.260 Adolf Hitler.
00:37:04.260 He became the 0.58
00:37:05.720 foundation of our
00:37:06.660 space program.
00:37:08.220 His spokesperson for
00:37:09.540 the last five years
00:37:10.380 of his life is on
00:37:11.220 my team, Carol
00:37:12.820 Rosen, and she
00:37:14.160 said, look, he
00:37:15.140 said, what they're
00:37:15.820 going to do, there's
00:37:17.060 going to be global,
00:37:18.000 there's going to be
00:37:18.540 the Cold War, then
00:37:19.760 global terrorism, then
00:37:21.580 other threats from
00:37:22.860 outer space, and the
00:37:24.620 final card they're
00:37:25.880 going to play is the
00:37:28.280 alien threat card, and
00:37:29.920 it's all a hoax.
00:37:31.160 It's all a lie.
00:37:32.800 And this gets into
00:37:34.400 how people who have
00:37:37.820 these sort of agendas
00:37:39.140 can exploit a subject
00:37:41.000 conflict and make a
00:37:42.700 disaster out of
00:37:44.540 something that
00:37:44.940 shouldn't be a
00:37:45.480 disaster.
00:37:46.860 You know, not unlike
00:37:47.800 us storming into
00:37:48.860 Iraq during the, after
00:37:51.900 9-11, when there was
00:37:53.440 a scintilla of
00:37:54.340 evidence that Iraq 0.92
00:37:55.860 had anything to do
00:37:56.660 with 9-11, which
00:37:58.160 now has destroyed
00:37:59.040 that entire region of
00:38:00.160 the Middle East, and
00:38:01.840 even Trump has said
00:38:02.820 that, you know, that
00:38:04.320 was a huge mistake,
00:38:06.300 but here we are, you
00:38:07.660 know, all these years
00:38:08.280 later.
00:38:08.600 What I'm concerned
00:38:09.800 about is that that
00:38:11.700 release was timed to
00:38:14.280 hijack the narrative
00:38:15.940 away from the fact
00:38:16.960 that we're not alone
00:38:19.360 in the universe.
00:38:20.520 We have these objects.
00:38:21.860 We understand how
00:38:22.920 they work.
00:38:23.900 That needs to be
00:38:24.720 disclosed, and we
00:38:26.480 need to make peaceful
00:38:27.420 contact with these
00:38:28.340 civilizations, not be 0.97
00:38:29.940 shooting them down
00:38:30.760 with lasers.
00:38:32.440 But the narrative that
00:38:34.880 the intelligence
00:38:35.480 community has begun to
00:38:38.500 create is, unfortunately,
00:38:41.800 one of a threat
00:38:43.180 matrix, where they're
00:38:44.680 adding to the threat
00:38:45.580 matrix this alien
00:38:47.360 threat, and I can
00:38:48.480 assure you, having
00:38:49.260 worked with everyone
00:38:50.600 in every compartment,
00:38:53.220 literally nearly a
00:38:54.920 thousand people
00:38:55.720 been in these
00:38:56.100 projects, there's not
00:38:57.120 a scintilla of
00:38:58.560 evidence that these
00:38:59.720 are a threat to our
00:39:01.040 national security or
00:39:02.100 to the human race.
00:39:03.380 Now, I will say that
00:39:05.000 they think that humans
00:39:05.980 are a threat.
00:39:06.660 They think that humans
00:39:08.660 are actually becoming
00:39:11.900 a threat because we're
00:39:14.400 dangerously destroying
00:39:16.200 this planet's biosphere.
00:39:17.720 We're beginning to go
00:39:19.000 out in space with killer
00:39:21.020 satellites, and we have
00:39:23.180 been targeting these E.T.
00:39:25.260 spacecraft for a number
00:39:26.920 of decades with
00:39:27.740 increasingly sophisticated
00:39:29.200 classified weapon
00:39:30.800 systems.
00:39:31.580 Doc, who's they?
00:39:32.560 You said they are
00:39:33.480 worried that we are a
00:39:34.720 threat.
00:39:34.900 Who's they?
00:39:36.060 The extraterrestrial
00:39:37.060 civilizations.
00:39:38.140 They think we're a
00:39:39.060 threat.
00:39:39.660 Yes, and to ourselves
00:39:41.580 and others.
00:39:42.480 You know, I want to laugh
00:39:43.580 as an emergency doctor
00:39:44.680 if somebody really crazy
00:39:47.520 comes into the emergency
00:39:48.580 department where they're
00:39:50.200 mentally ill and they're
00:39:51.120 a threat to themselves
00:39:52.040 or others, they're put
00:39:55.020 in an involuntary
00:39:56.220 commitment because you
00:39:57.920 don't want them to kill
00:39:58.580 themselves or kill an
00:39:59.540 innocent person.
00:40:00.960 I think that these
00:40:02.100 civilizations view humans
00:40:03.560 at this stage of
00:40:05.540 becoming extremely
00:40:07.660 technologically advanced
00:40:09.220 but not socially and
00:40:11.180 spiritually advanced
00:40:12.060 enough to handle it.
00:40:13.740 And we're, you know,
00:40:15.440 obviously have weapons
00:40:16.380 of mass destruction
00:40:17.220 that you know about.
00:40:18.800 What your audience
00:40:19.760 doesn't know about is
00:40:21.100 that there are multiple
00:40:22.560 generations of
00:40:23.860 electromagnetic weapons
00:40:25.380 that are much more
00:40:26.940 dangerous than a
00:40:28.300 hydrogen bomb that have
00:40:29.720 been developed.
00:40:30.260 And those have been
00:40:31.820 put on satellites that
00:40:33.520 have targeted these
00:40:34.720 ET spacecraft.
00:40:36.680 And this, when I, this
00:40:37.660 was the main reason, by
00:40:38.840 the way, I briefed the
00:40:40.580 head of the Defense
00:40:41.340 Intelligence Agency.
00:40:42.780 He had heard rumblings of
00:40:44.320 this and knew that it was
00:40:46.180 an existential threat to
00:40:48.320 the peace and security of
00:40:49.520 not just the United States
00:40:50.580 but of our civilization.
00:40:52.620 How do you know that the
00:40:53.560 extraterrestrial thinks
00:40:54.720 we are a threat?
00:40:56.020 How do you know that?
00:40:58.760 Well, a lot of it is
00:41:00.320 observational.
00:41:01.220 For example, when the
00:41:03.460 Minot, North Dakota
00:41:04.680 intercontinental ballistic
00:41:06.420 missile silos, where we
00:41:07.820 have our big nuclear
00:41:08.760 intercontinental weapons,
00:41:10.560 was breached by UFOs back
00:41:14.160 in the 60s, the men that
00:41:16.460 were in the silo, a number
00:41:18.240 of whom are on my team,
00:41:19.740 said that the message that
00:41:21.380 they were receiving from
00:41:24.160 the behavior, what they
00:41:26.400 did, what the ETs did, 0.86
00:41:27.800 they took at least 18 of
00:41:30.420 those multiple warhead
00:41:31.980 intercontinental ballistic
00:41:33.700 missiles offline.
00:41:35.120 They rendered them
00:41:35.960 unlaunchable.
00:41:37.060 But they did it only as a
00:41:38.760 way of saying, please don't
00:41:40.460 blow up this beautiful
00:41:41.360 planet, but if you do go
00:41:43.220 to a full launch, we can
00:41:45.200 minimize it.
00:41:47.420 And this has been one of
00:41:49.280 the things that I talked
00:41:50.340 to, if you look at the
00:41:51.160 disclosure project materials,
00:41:52.760 I have an interview with
00:41:54.360 Colonel Dietrich, who was
00:41:55.680 the head of the nuclear
00:42:00.980 supervisory group for the
00:42:04.860 Air Force, but also the old
00:42:06.980 Atomic Energy Commission.
00:42:09.000 And he said, every one of
00:42:10.680 our atomic weapons and space
00:42:13.240 facilities had been
00:42:14.860 surveyed by these ETs, and
00:42:18.080 they had all concluded that
00:42:20.380 they were not doing anything
00:42:21.540 to threaten us, but they
00:42:23.060 thought that we had become
00:42:24.400 a threat to ourselves and
00:42:26.340 could potentially in the
00:42:27.480 future be a threat,
00:42:29.640 existential threat, out in
00:42:30.920 space.
00:42:32.040 So humans being so
00:42:34.040 narcissistic, we always are
00:42:35.540 thinking, oh, I don't
00:42:37.080 understand what this is.
00:42:38.220 It's a threat to me.
00:42:39.580 The irony of this is that
00:42:41.100 we're actually the out-of-control
00:42:43.080 primates rampaging around the
00:42:45.860 planet with endless wars and
00:42:48.720 now covertly putting programs
00:42:51.180 up into space that are
00:42:53.480 extremely powerful technologies
00:42:55.520 on satellites that are a
00:42:57.700 threat.
00:42:58.580 So this is a very complex
00:43:00.500 issue that we've gotten into,
00:43:02.040 but this was also why when
00:43:04.080 Boutros Boutros-Ghali was the
00:43:05.640 UN Secretary General, I had a
00:43:07.740 meeting with his folks, with
00:43:08.900 him and his wife, and it was a
00:43:11.280 discussion about how do we
00:43:14.240 approach this issue in a way
00:43:16.960 that de-escalates it and where
00:43:20.200 we have some kind of rational
00:43:22.060 diplomatic outreach to whoever
00:43:26.180 are in these UFOs, the ones
00:43:29.880 that are not man-made.
00:43:32.260 And that's what the Close
00:43:33.700 Encounters of the Fifth Kind is.
00:43:35.680 The CE5 initiative is all about
00:43:37.560 doing that.
00:43:38.640 It reminds me a little bit of
00:43:39.840 what we did in the Cold War.
00:43:42.380 There was a group called
00:43:43.140 Physicians for Social 0.87
00:43:44.160 Responsibility that were
00:43:46.040 American physicians that went
00:43:47.460 over to the Soviet Union to
00:43:49.260 create some sort of dialogue to
00:43:51.320 try to diffuse this mutual
00:43:53.980 assured destruction, you know,
00:43:56.220 atomic clock getting too far
00:43:58.600 out of hand where we may go to
00:44:00.500 DEFCON 1 and launch all our
00:44:02.360 missiles.
00:44:03.380 And what we're doing with Close
00:44:05.220 Encounters of the Fifth Kind is
00:44:06.380 sort of a citizen's diplomacy
00:44:08.520 outreach to these civilizations
00:44:10.180 using some rather novel,
00:44:13.140 perhaps controversial protocols
00:44:15.200 and techniques, but that work.
00:44:18.320 And they're based on what I was
00:44:20.340 talking about earlier, non-locality
00:44:22.500 and consciousness and connection
00:44:24.420 to these objects.
00:44:26.000 They have very sophisticated
00:44:27.440 systems that can interface with
00:44:29.740 people who go into what some
00:44:32.960 people would call a deep
00:44:33.900 meditative state who then can
00:44:35.960 remote view.
00:44:37.220 Now, the remote viewing term is
00:44:38.820 from the CIA back in the 70s where
00:44:41.580 they trained people to basically
00:44:43.240 spy on the Soviet Union using
00:44:45.580 consciousness.
00:44:46.660 And it was a very successful
00:44:47.700 program.
00:44:48.180 If you look at Dr.
00:44:50.180 Russell Targ and others, he's a
00:44:51.980 physicist who was in that program
00:44:53.340 for 23 years.
00:44:55.060 They had enormous success using
00:44:57.160 that.
00:44:57.840 We're using that not to spy, but to
00:45:00.540 make contact and to create a
00:45:04.360 liaison between humans and those
00:45:07.320 civilizations because our government
00:45:09.620 has completely failed us.
00:45:10.920 And frankly, so is the United
00:45:12.140 Nations.
00:45:12.520 So that's why we're taking this
00:45:14.140 wide through doing this
00:45:16.040 documentary.
00:45:17.420 You know, the way you speak is
00:45:20.180 incredibly convincing.
00:45:21.920 And you obviously come across
00:45:23.720 extremely confident.
00:45:24.980 You have an incredible voice.
00:45:26.200 You have a track record, 80,000
00:45:28.540 patients, emergency doctor, MD.
00:45:31.600 You've briefed Pentagon, all these
00:45:33.860 other places you've been.
00:45:34.920 But the way you explain that the
00:45:37.020 extraterrestrial is concerned more
00:45:39.880 about us than we ought to be,
00:45:41.560 they're worried about them.
00:45:43.520 You say that in a way of certainty,
00:45:46.060 like you're 100% confident that
00:45:51.000 that's what it is.
00:45:51.960 You're not saying it with, I believe
00:45:54.480 that's what they're thinking.
00:45:56.200 You're saying that they are
00:45:57.400 concerned.
00:45:57.960 That's a definite answer you're
00:45:59.200 given.
00:45:59.900 How could you give a definite
00:46:01.180 answer and not saying this is what
00:46:02.780 my feelings are?
00:46:04.960 Because I've spent 30 years leading
00:46:07.220 a team that has made contact with
00:46:08.960 these civilizations.
00:46:11.060 You've spent, okay, so let me ask
00:46:14.280 you a question.
00:46:14.780 Have you, you talk about the five
00:46:16.240 different levels of encounters,
00:46:17.640 right?
00:46:17.900 If you don't mind explaining the
00:46:18.940 five different encounters.
00:46:20.140 Oh yeah, we can do that.
00:46:21.520 So a close encounter of the first
00:46:23.100 kind is when an object is seen
00:46:25.240 within a reasonable distance where
00:46:27.120 you can actually see the structure
00:46:28.240 of it.
00:46:28.780 A close encounter of the second kind
00:46:30.640 is when there's some physical
00:46:32.500 evidence that is left, like it
00:46:33.960 lands, it leaves evidence, like the
00:46:35.840 Bentwaters case in England, or a
00:46:38.360 radar where it's on radar, like you
00:46:40.340 saw there, where there's some clear
00:46:42.220 physical evidence that is resulting.
00:46:45.600 Everyone knows what close encounter
00:46:46.980 of the third kind is from the
00:46:48.260 Steven Spielberg movie is when there
00:46:50.400 is a encounter with an actual
00:46:52.740 extraterrestrial biological entity, an
00:46:55.820 EBE.
00:46:57.340 A close encounter of the fourth kind is
00:46:59.740 when someone has an experience where
00:47:01.040 they're taking on board one of these
00:47:03.540 craft.
00:47:04.260 And then a close encounter of the
00:47:05.320 fifth kind is when humans, instead
00:47:07.900 of these being, those other four
00:47:09.520 are passive events.
00:47:11.220 A close encounter of the fifth kind is
00:47:12.460 when humans initiate the
00:47:14.000 communication and contact under a
00:47:16.480 mutual conditions.
00:47:18.400 So that's what a close encounter of
00:47:19.840 the fifth kind is.
00:47:20.880 Which of the five have you
00:47:22.380 personally experienced?
00:47:23.920 All five.
00:47:25.120 You've personally experienced all
00:47:26.720 five?
00:47:27.200 Yes.
00:47:27.460 So you've personally had interaction
00:47:29.360 with extraterrestrial
00:47:30.460 aliens out there?
00:47:33.420 Yes.
00:47:34.100 Personally?
00:47:35.120 Yes.
00:47:35.780 And you're 100% about that?
00:47:37.820 Yes.
00:47:38.980 Has it been a face-to-face or it's
00:47:41.100 been through the energy?
00:47:43.040 Face-to-face.
00:47:44.280 You face-to-face met an alien before?
00:47:48.020 Yes.
00:47:48.760 And how old were you when this
00:47:50.300 happened?
00:47:51.000 First time that happened I was 18.
00:47:53.180 And it's a very interesting story.
00:47:56.780 I wrote a book some years ago called
00:47:58.380 Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge,
00:48:00.480 which is kind of a story about my life,
00:48:03.040 how I got involved with this.
00:48:05.120 And before I was in college, when I was
00:48:09.340 a senior in high school, I got very sick
00:48:12.320 and had a near-death experience.
00:48:14.520 And I was raised in a scientific family
00:48:19.820 where, you know, if it didn't fit into a
00:48:22.140 test tube or whatever, it didn't exist.
00:48:24.380 So I was raised in an atheist, scientific,
00:48:28.300 reductionist family.
00:48:31.020 So I didn't have any belief systems about
00:48:33.500 the pearly gates and the this and the that.
00:48:35.660 Nevertheless, the truth is what it is.
00:48:38.400 I got very sick.
00:48:40.340 I died.
00:48:41.240 I had a near-death experience.
00:48:42.660 Obviously came back to life.
00:48:45.080 But in that process, had this amazing
00:48:47.160 experience with what mystical literature
00:48:50.740 would call cosmic consciousness or that
00:48:53.260 state of oneness with the conscious being
00:48:56.280 of the cosmos.
00:48:57.960 And I was out in space when this happened
00:49:01.660 because I had a great love for the earth
00:49:03.680 and space.
00:49:04.520 I didn't really care about the religious 1.00
00:49:06.840 traditions because I wasn't raised that way.
00:49:10.040 And that experience taught me that I
00:49:12.960 really needed to understand what
00:49:14.460 consciousness was, what the light of
00:49:17.120 consciousness within us is.
00:49:19.680 So I began on my 18th birthday,
00:49:21.820 coincidentally, I learned meditation
00:49:24.260 and then went off to college.
00:49:27.880 So I'm up in North Carolina.
00:49:29.860 I'm up in the Blue Ridge Mountains.
00:49:31.320 I hike up this mountain and I'm
00:49:33.000 meditating a little before sunset.
00:49:35.880 But just before I close my eyes, I look out
00:49:38.300 and the same spacecraft that I saw when I
00:49:41.360 was a child, eight or nine years of age,
00:49:46.100 appeared again or it looked the same.
00:49:48.380 And it appeared, it materialized and
00:49:50.480 dematerialized.
00:49:51.200 It didn't just fly in and out like you see
00:49:52.660 an airplane.
00:49:53.700 And I went, oh, that's interesting.
00:49:55.040 They're back.
00:49:55.880 You know, I didn't think more about it.
00:49:57.500 I sat down and meditated.
00:49:59.000 And at the end of the meditation, it lasted
00:50:02.420 very long.
00:50:03.600 It had gotten quite dark and I'm up over
00:50:05.540 5,000 feet up in the Blue Ridge.
00:50:07.380 And it's very clear in October of 73.
00:50:10.420 And I look up in the beautiful Milky
00:50:12.740 Ways above and I then see that there's
00:50:15.520 this, to be honest with you, and I know
00:50:17.720 this sounds ridiculous, but you asked, I'll
00:50:20.380 tell you.
00:50:21.180 I thought it was a deer standing on its
00:50:23.520 hind legs, upright like a human, and had
00:50:26.960 these beautiful deer-like eyes.
00:50:29.020 And then I realized it wasn't a deer.
00:50:31.320 I was very disoriented.
00:50:32.520 I said, what the hell is this?
00:50:34.100 It came over and touched me on my right
00:50:35.940 shoulder.
00:50:36.740 And actually so much, I had a ski jacket
00:50:38.560 on, I could see it indent and it touched
00:50:41.580 me and there was this electromagnetic field
00:50:43.580 that went around me.
00:50:44.900 Bang.
00:50:45.820 I vanished off the mountain and I was on
00:50:47.940 this craft or I don't know, maybe I'm
00:50:50.740 going to guess around three or four hours.
00:50:53.680 And that's what happened to me when I was
00:50:56.260 18.
00:50:56.760 I know it sounds like an unbelievable
00:50:57.920 story, but that led me into really
00:51:01.200 wanting to pursue how these civilizations
00:51:04.620 travel, how they communicate.
00:51:06.740 So in that experience, when I was on this
00:51:10.260 object, I did this meditative process
00:51:14.160 with these beings and created these close
00:51:18.100 encounters of the fifth kind protocols.
00:51:20.840 And I didn't do anything with it publicly
00:51:24.580 for many, many years.
00:51:25.880 That was in 73.
00:51:27.020 I didn't emerge, do anything public with
00:51:29.300 this until the early 90s.
00:51:31.560 But what I did do is I began to experiment
00:51:35.320 with it.
00:51:36.040 And every time I'd experiment with it,
00:51:38.480 where I was up in the mountains of North
00:51:41.820 Carolina, one of these objects would appear.
00:51:44.100 And I kind of got a little bit, I said, you
00:51:48.000 know, I don't think I should be doing this
00:51:49.320 unless I have a better reason.
00:51:51.140 So I stopped.
00:51:52.960 And in the movie, Close Encounters of
00:51:55.320 Fifth Kind, you'll see a couple years
00:51:56.480 later, I'm becoming a teacher of meditation.
00:51:59.340 This is before I went to medical school.
00:52:01.840 And I'm up in the Alps, in the French
00:52:04.380 Alps, in the Maritime Alps.
00:52:06.460 And one morning, I decide to do this technique.
00:52:09.180 So I go into quiet meditation.
00:52:11.540 I remote view where these ET objects are.
00:52:14.940 And I show them, reverse the process,
00:52:17.440 and show them where I am up in the Alps,
00:52:19.520 near Isola, France.
00:52:21.040 And that's it.
00:52:23.960 I do it for maybe an hour during a meditation.
00:52:26.660 I go out with some friends after lunch.
00:52:29.320 And this massive tetrahedron appears in the
00:52:34.140 crystal blue sky.
00:52:36.220 And in the documentary that's out now, Close
00:52:38.720 Encounters of Fifth Kind, a friend of mine
00:52:40.980 who was with me then, we were 19 years old,
00:52:43.560 maybe had turned 20, very young.
00:52:46.960 And this object appears and descends towards us.
00:52:52.320 And she goes, Steve, what did you do?
00:52:55.120 Did you contact?
00:52:55.840 I said, yes.
00:52:56.960 And of course, she's now freaking out, frankly.
00:52:59.200 I go, marry and relax.
00:53:00.880 They're fine.
00:53:01.500 They're just, you know.
00:53:02.540 But so that happened.
00:53:04.620 And then a couple years later, I tried it one more time.
00:53:08.020 And that event led to that case that is in the movie
00:53:11.740 with the police helicopter and the airline pilots
00:53:16.920 in Charlotte, North Carolina, that saw these objects
00:53:19.340 after I engaged in that protocol again.
00:53:22.380 So I began, I experimented with it periodically,
00:53:25.360 but didn't formalize a project around it until 1990,
00:53:30.180 about 30 years ago.
00:53:31.380 So let me ask you, at that time,
00:53:33.520 were you at all using recreational drugs, LSD?
00:53:38.580 No, I've never, never, ever have done any of those things.
00:53:42.860 Never have used any of those things.
00:53:44.140 Okay, so then when you had that cosmic moment,
00:53:46.160 how do you know that wasn't a dream
00:53:48.440 and it was a real moment?
00:53:51.200 How do you, you're a pretty smart guy.
00:53:53.000 You're a well-read person.
00:53:54.280 You're not somebody that just jumps to,
00:53:56.560 how do you differentiate it?
00:53:58.100 But maybe it was just a dream that I had
00:53:59.720 because we've had some wild dreams in our lives.
00:54:01.960 Well, if you talk to neurosurgeons and other doctors
00:54:04.840 who've dealt with patients who've died
00:54:06.380 and they've been resuscitated,
00:54:08.040 it's an unmistakable experience
00:54:09.900 where you go above and out of your body and out
00:54:13.160 and can observe things.
00:54:15.640 You know, I mean, I guess if somebody is hellbent
00:54:18.440 on not believing this is possible,
00:54:20.440 you can explain it any way you wish.
00:54:22.800 But there's too much evidence around that.
00:54:25.220 And ultimately, I know what I experienced.
00:54:27.420 It was certainly not a dream.
00:54:29.240 Now, I have had lucid dreams
00:54:32.060 of the future and things like that.
00:54:34.660 I mean, you know, I think this is very common in society.
00:54:37.740 People have a dream and the next day
00:54:39.660 or a year later, it happens.
00:54:41.620 I met actually my wife that way,
00:54:43.360 a series of lucid dreams.
00:54:45.820 But I think that that it has the ability
00:54:49.000 with the development of consciousness and meditation.
00:54:51.960 The more people are in touch with the meditative state
00:54:55.880 and develop these conscious abilities,
00:54:58.880 the more those things spontaneously happen.
00:55:01.340 But the truth is,
00:55:04.620 every person who is sentient and conscious
00:55:08.100 has these abilities within them,
00:55:10.980 which is why when you do a poll of the public,
00:55:13.860 huge percentage of the public have had
00:55:16.220 precognitive dreams, lucid dreams of the future,
00:55:21.240 maybe episodic telepathic episodes.
00:55:24.440 And a large number of people have had
00:55:26.340 a near-death experience where they recount
00:55:28.260 a similar pattern of events that occur.
00:55:32.880 Do you believe in God?
00:55:35.280 Well, it's a freighted word, isn't it, God?
00:55:38.060 I believe in the great spirit,
00:55:41.460 the unbounded being, you call it God.
00:55:44.240 When you use the word God in our society,
00:55:46.800 it conjures up an angry man up on a cloud
00:55:49.740 throwing lightning bolts down on people.
00:55:51.640 Creator.
00:55:52.160 Do you believe in a creator?
00:55:53.540 Do you believe there is a creator?
00:55:54.520 Oh, absolutely, yes.
00:55:55.540 Oh, you absolutely believe in a creator, okay.
00:55:58.060 I didn't.
00:55:58.800 I didn't when I was younger
00:56:00.100 because we were, I mean,
00:56:01.460 we were very devout atheists.
00:56:03.940 When did that happen?
00:56:05.180 When did you come from?
00:56:05.980 Was that around the same time, 1819,
00:56:07.540 or was it past that?
00:56:09.280 When I had the near-death experience.
00:56:11.520 I mean, that-
00:56:12.060 That's when you believed in a creator.
00:56:13.920 Well, because I experienced that state, yeah.
00:56:16.680 So experiencing that state
00:56:18.340 is different from, you know,
00:56:21.540 the catechisms of reading a Bible or something.
00:56:24.780 I think, you know,
00:56:26.020 I always tell people,
00:56:27.240 the great teacher is experience.
00:56:29.680 And the foundation of science, by the way,
00:56:31.740 is empiricism, observation, experience.
00:56:35.160 So if you experience something like that,
00:56:38.100 that goes a lot further than having a priest dictate to you
00:56:41.700 what you should believe or not.
00:56:43.920 So I'm not diminished priests at all.
00:56:46.580 I'm just saying that ultimately,
00:56:48.140 it's what people can experience
00:56:49.760 and prove and know for themselves,
00:56:51.880 which is one of the reasons people say,
00:56:53.460 oh, what you're saying sounds unbelievable.
00:56:54.780 I said, well, go out and try this
00:56:56.860 and see if something happens.
00:56:59.000 I really am an empiricist.
00:57:01.100 I think people need to rely on their own ability
00:57:05.240 to discover what the truth is
00:57:07.240 and not rely on myself or any other expert
00:57:12.060 to tell them what they should or shouldn't believe.
00:57:15.800 I just think people should engage in self-discovery
00:57:19.220 and discovery in the world.
00:57:21.540 You speak in absolutes.
00:57:23.540 Are you more absolute that God exists
00:57:26.600 or more absolute that extraterrestrials exist?
00:57:30.600 I don't think it's an either or question.
00:57:32.560 I'm confident that both do.
00:57:35.900 You're confident that both do.
00:57:37.320 Okay.
00:57:38.960 That's good to know.
00:57:39.880 Is there any doubt that you may be wrong?
00:57:42.300 Do you have any doubt where...
00:57:43.540 Well, there are a lot of things I don't know,
00:57:47.900 but the things I do know I'll talk about
00:57:50.260 is because I know them.
00:57:51.560 You know, I talk about things
00:57:52.640 that I have personal knowledge of
00:57:54.260 as opposed to things that are second, third, fourth hand.
00:57:58.900 So if you look at this subject on the internet,
00:58:01.480 there's all kinds of wild theories
00:58:05.440 based on fourth hand conjectures.
00:58:08.440 I don't engage in that.
00:58:09.840 The things that my team and I have experienced directly,
00:58:13.920 we know we've experienced.
00:58:15.840 And if you look at this documentary,
00:58:18.400 there's this wonderful story,
00:58:19.880 you may recall it from the movie,
00:58:22.080 where this older gentleman
00:58:24.940 who had had a hearing loss since he was very young,
00:58:28.640 I think since middle school, high school.
00:58:30.360 And we were up in Arizona a couple years ago
00:58:33.200 doing the CE5 contact protocols.
00:58:36.920 And there was an ET that came in
00:58:40.540 faster than the speed of light zoom.
00:58:43.280 There've been these objects up above us
00:58:45.120 and we have photos and videos of,
00:58:48.320 and this suddenly we heard something behind us.
00:58:51.500 So a man who was on the team with me
00:58:54.140 named David Marconi,
00:58:55.500 who wrote the screenplay for Enemy of the State
00:58:58.480 that Will Smith was in.
00:59:00.080 So he had some great cameras.
00:59:02.260 So he swung it around
00:59:03.480 because I said,
00:59:04.480 look, there's something right over here.
00:59:06.120 Yeah.
00:59:06.920 And he took a photo as we heard this.
00:59:11.080 And there's this ET,
00:59:13.640 this extraterrestrial about five, six feet tall
00:59:16.420 between a medical student who's on our team
00:59:19.800 and this man who had lost his hearing.
00:59:22.960 And the man,
00:59:25.180 after this happened,
00:59:26.900 continue having a contact
00:59:28.640 with this ET throughout that evening.
00:59:31.300 And the next morning he woke up
00:59:33.040 and this 40 or 50 year long hearing loss
00:59:37.080 had been completely reversed
00:59:39.320 because he had asked that to happen.
00:59:41.980 Now, you know,
00:59:42.540 that story is,
00:59:43.640 you would say,
00:59:44.080 well, it's apocryphal,
00:59:45.360 but it's in the documentary.
00:59:48.320 The photograph is in the documentary.
00:59:50.700 of the experiences in there.
00:59:52.960 Now, there's a lot behind what happened
00:59:55.020 in terms of what we did
00:59:57.040 to set up the conditions for that event.
01:00:00.540 But I've been present
01:00:01.860 at several thousand events like that.
01:00:05.720 So this is what makes me say,
01:00:08.860 you know,
01:00:09.260 what I and other people with me have seen
01:00:12.740 and documented and photographed
01:00:14.620 that I am very confident about.
01:00:17.040 There's a lot of other things
01:00:18.260 that are out there
01:00:19.020 that are conjecture
01:00:20.660 that I try to steer away from.
01:00:23.220 Yeah.
01:00:23.660 And by the way,
01:00:24.220 you know,
01:00:25.400 you could tell the man
01:00:27.040 who was able to hear again
01:00:28.620 when he got emotional.
01:00:29.740 I mean,
01:00:30.360 either he's an incredible actor
01:00:31.620 and he belongs in Hollywood
01:00:32.540 or you just could feel
01:00:34.160 the level of sincerity he had.
01:00:35.820 You know,
01:00:36.400 Doc,
01:00:37.120 obviously you're not alone.
01:00:38.060 When you look at the stats,
01:00:38.980 33% of U.S. adults
01:00:40.520 believe that some UFO sightings
01:00:42.340 over the years
01:00:42.900 have in fact been alien spacecraft
01:00:45.220 visiting Earth
01:00:46.000 from other planets or galaxies.
01:00:47.620 33% is one third.
01:00:49.440 That's a pretty big number.
01:00:51.500 And then you have,
01:00:52.560 even as most Americans
01:00:53.900 are skeptical
01:00:54.460 that aliens have visited Earth,
01:00:55.980 the majority,
01:00:56.580 56% believe
01:00:57.640 that those who spot UFOs
01:00:59.200 are seeing something real,
01:01:00.900 not just imagining it.
01:01:02.460 So I'm a skeptic.
01:01:04.740 I'm not coming from a place of
01:01:06.400 I'm on one side or another side,
01:01:08.660 but for me,
01:01:09.320 I haven't had some
01:01:10.140 of the experiences
01:01:10.840 that you've had
01:01:11.620 and you're not somebody
01:01:13.200 that just all of a sudden,
01:01:14.940 you know,
01:01:15.960 you're a conspiracy person
01:01:19.160 that's just going out there
01:01:20.120 saying this.
01:01:20.680 You're somebody
01:01:21.080 that's a medical doctor.
01:01:22.140 You're somebody
01:01:22.600 that's briefed
01:01:23.860 and spoken at Pentagon.
01:01:25.260 You're somebody
01:01:25.720 that's gotten information
01:01:27.440 out there.
01:01:28.980 This kind of leads me
01:01:30.220 to the next part.
01:01:31.080 when you're thinking
01:01:32.720 about aliens to us,
01:01:35.600 we think about aliens
01:01:37.060 looking like the aliens
01:01:38.680 in movies, right?
01:01:40.080 We think about them
01:01:41.180 with the eyes
01:01:41.880 and how they look,
01:01:42.720 all that stuff.
01:01:44.060 From your experience,
01:01:45.300 you said looking like a deer,
01:01:47.520 six feet tall,
01:01:48.560 touched your right shoulder.
01:01:50.260 What?
01:01:50.500 If you've seen them,
01:01:51.420 what do aliens look like?
01:01:52.700 Well, before I answer that,
01:01:55.640 just remember this.
01:01:56.920 Every stable star system
01:01:58.580 has planets around it
01:02:02.360 and the number
01:02:04.160 of intelligent civilizations
01:02:07.120 that are estimated
01:02:08.780 to just be in our own galaxy
01:02:11.160 number in the millions.
01:02:13.660 Let me repeat that.
01:02:14.960 And we're one galaxy
01:02:16.040 out of trillions of galaxies.
01:02:19.040 So what I'm going to say then
01:02:21.500 is that in our experience,
01:02:23.680 and I'm just dealing with
01:02:24.740 the 30 years my team
01:02:26.080 has gone out doing this,
01:02:27.820 we have had sightings
01:02:29.740 and encounters
01:02:30.540 and with almost the full gamut
01:02:34.580 of types of life forms.
01:02:37.340 For example, in the movie,
01:02:38.560 there's this one image
01:02:39.800 of a being that's about
01:02:41.880 two feet tall
01:02:43.420 on a beach in Florida.
01:02:45.360 And it looks like,
01:02:47.160 almost like a hologram,
01:02:48.580 but it's this crystalline figure
01:02:50.280 that looks like it has
01:02:51.380 a halo.
01:02:52.100 It's actually a toroidal energy,
01:02:54.320 a donut-shaped energy field
01:02:55.760 around it.
01:02:57.100 And that being was standing
01:02:59.460 in front of us
01:03:00.260 as we were setting up
01:03:01.200 our team on the beach
01:03:02.200 at near Boca Grande
01:03:03.240 in Florida
01:03:04.060 on the West Coast,
01:03:06.140 the Gulf Coast.
01:03:07.880 But that being was
01:03:09.560 maybe at the most
01:03:11.500 two feet tall.
01:03:12.960 There are others
01:03:13.680 that we have documented
01:03:14.580 that are over
01:03:15.200 eight to ten feet tall.
01:03:17.180 There are different shapes.
01:03:18.140 So the caricature
01:03:19.520 you see in Hollywood movies
01:03:22.980 and in most UFO stuff,
01:03:25.000 that's just almost like
01:03:26.040 a racist caricature.
01:03:29.080 It's sort of a joke.
01:03:30.460 And nobody in the intelligence
01:03:31.940 community takes those seriously.
01:03:34.240 And this is part of the problem
01:03:35.820 because the mythology
01:03:37.520 on this subject
01:03:38.520 is the dominant database
01:03:40.400 that's out there.
01:03:41.380 And the facts about the subject
01:03:43.100 are the hardest to find.
01:03:44.400 So we're trying to get
01:03:46.200 some clarity on that.
01:03:48.020 But yes, you're quite correct.
01:03:49.540 There are the ones,
01:03:50.420 the image of the bug-eyed looking,
01:03:53.320 that's sort of your
01:03:54.340 kind of stereotypical being.
01:03:58.840 And there are a couple of species
01:04:00.700 that may look somewhat like that.
01:04:03.200 But it is by no means
01:04:04.960 what most or all of them do.
01:04:07.660 And my own understanding
01:04:09.800 from the experiences I've had
01:04:11.400 with these ETs
01:04:12.840 and with people
01:04:13.840 who are in the intelligence community
01:04:15.420 who work this subject
01:04:17.060 and classify programs
01:04:18.560 is that none of them are hostile,
01:04:21.820 and they all have different levels
01:04:24.040 of development.
01:04:26.720 But in order for them
01:04:28.600 to have gone interstellar
01:04:30.240 and have that kind
01:04:32.080 of technological capability
01:04:33.900 where you're moving
01:04:35.380 from point A to B
01:04:36.580 across thousands or millions
01:04:38.560 of light years of space,
01:04:39.880 that technological capability
01:04:42.480 means that your society
01:04:45.020 has evolved past where we are,
01:04:48.160 where our sciences
01:04:49.620 and technologies
01:04:50.580 could be our undoing
01:04:53.060 if we use them for war.
01:04:55.660 And I always mention to people
01:04:58.240 that this is one of the reasons
01:05:00.360 why civilizations
01:05:02.240 that can evolve
01:05:03.620 to that level of technology,
01:05:05.120 if they haven't gotten
01:05:06.520 their social
01:05:07.340 and not religious per se,
01:05:09.960 but spiritual inner development
01:05:11.720 high enough,
01:05:14.740 the technologies
01:05:15.680 are going to be used
01:05:16.420 to destroy their own society
01:05:18.020 like we almost have.
01:05:19.640 So these civilizations
01:05:21.140 are very advanced
01:05:23.040 intellectually,
01:05:24.900 socially,
01:05:26.000 spiritually,
01:05:26.860 and technologically.
01:05:29.260 But the technology
01:05:30.440 in and of itself
01:05:31.340 isn't the answer.
01:05:32.520 If you have very advanced technology,
01:05:34.160 but you're still running around
01:05:35.360 like a bunch of marauding chimpanzees,
01:05:37.840 you're going to kill yourself
01:05:39.120 and everyone on the planet
01:05:40.340 because you're not talking
01:05:41.700 about just technologies
01:05:43.940 as dangerous
01:05:44.920 as a hydrogen bomb.
01:05:46.180 You're talking about technologies
01:05:47.400 that are orders of magnitude
01:05:48.780 more powerful
01:05:49.580 to transfer a spacecraft
01:05:51.720 from point A to B
01:05:52.960 across space-time.
01:05:55.020 So when you look at that,
01:05:57.500 you kind of realize
01:05:58.700 that we're dealing with
01:05:59.800 extraordinarily advanced civilizations
01:06:03.460 that have both innate
01:06:05.960 mental abilities,
01:06:07.580 intellectual,
01:06:08.960 let's call it telepathic,
01:06:10.580 and other,
01:06:11.520 but their technologies
01:06:12.640 are also awesome, frankly,
01:06:16.300 when you observe these things
01:06:17.680 and how they move.
01:06:19.020 If you look at this documentary,
01:06:20.480 The Close Encounters
01:06:21.140 of the Fifth Kind,
01:06:22.140 you'll see the object
01:06:23.400 that will be here
01:06:24.200 and almost instantly
01:06:25.440 it instantly compares here.
01:06:28.020 And these are during
01:06:29.180 our CE5 events.
01:06:30.920 And people go,
01:06:31.580 what?
01:06:31.840 I'm going, yes,
01:06:33.120 they're not moving
01:06:33.840 in a straight line.
01:06:35.580 And I remind people,
01:06:36.640 one of our disclosure project
01:06:38.280 witnesses was the man,
01:06:40.840 the chief investigator
01:06:42.020 for the federal government,
01:06:44.300 the FAA,
01:06:46.080 John Callahan.
01:06:47.620 And there was a case
01:06:49.060 in the 80s
01:06:50.360 where a Japan airline
01:06:53.000 747 heavy cargo jet
01:06:55.380 was going from Paris
01:06:56.900 to Tokyo
01:06:57.820 over the Polar route.
01:06:59.280 And over Alaska,
01:07:01.500 there was a UFO
01:07:03.140 that appeared
01:07:03.760 the size of a battleship.
01:07:05.540 Huge.
01:07:06.460 And it would appear
01:07:07.380 at, you know,
01:07:08.180 nine o'clock
01:07:08.980 and then instantaneously
01:07:12.080 in less than one radar sweep
01:07:13.620 be hundreds of miles away
01:07:15.960 the opposite side.
01:07:17.620 And it moved non-linearly.
01:07:19.520 In other words,
01:07:19.960 not in a line.
01:07:20.540 It would be here
01:07:21.020 and then here.
01:07:21.660 We have,
01:07:23.300 I have in my archive,
01:07:25.080 the original FAA radar tape
01:07:28.380 of this
01:07:28.860 that John Callahan
01:07:30.440 handed off to me.
01:07:31.860 The CIA felt
01:07:33.020 they took it from his office.
01:07:34.940 He gave them a copy.
01:07:36.380 I have the original.
01:07:37.760 And we have
01:07:38.400 the pilot statement.
01:07:39.880 We have the account
01:07:41.560 of the jet fighters
01:07:42.580 that were scrambled.
01:07:43.680 And we have
01:07:44.260 the radar tracing.
01:07:46.080 So I tell people
01:07:47.060 the content
01:07:48.160 that we have
01:07:49.280 is orders of magnitude
01:07:51.400 more significant
01:07:52.300 than the footage
01:07:53.420 you're seeing on CNN.
01:07:55.180 And you have to ask the question,
01:07:56.580 why isn't CNN
01:07:57.960 and Fox News
01:07:58.920 doing that story?
01:08:00.160 That goes back
01:08:00.760 to Project Mockingbird
01:08:01.740 you were talking about.
01:08:02.780 But let me stay on this.
01:08:04.200 I'm a math guy.
01:08:05.060 So for me,
01:08:06.100 and by the way,
01:08:07.760 what's weird
01:08:08.640 is I grew up
01:08:09.260 as a Christian family
01:08:10.080 even though I was an atheist
01:08:10.800 for 25 years
01:08:11.620 and I'm a big skeptic.
01:08:12.640 So I'm somebody
01:08:13.540 that's when you live in Iran 1.00
01:08:15.420 and you see
01:08:15.820 what you see sometimes
01:08:16.740 it's hard to believe
01:08:17.440 there's a God,
01:08:19.120 a loving God
01:08:19.920 that wants everything
01:08:20.760 to be fine.
01:08:21.640 Yes, I understand that.
01:08:23.260 When I sit there
01:08:24.420 and I look at the math
01:08:26.320 and you look at galaxies,
01:08:27.900 how many are there?
01:08:28.640 And you look up,
01:08:29.640 you do a simple search,
01:08:31.560 200 billion
01:08:32.540 to 2 trillion
01:08:33.960 or more.
01:08:34.980 That's the number
01:08:35.600 that comes up.
01:08:36.360 200 billion
01:08:36.920 to 2 trillion
01:08:37.500 or more.
01:08:38.640 That we know of, yeah.
01:08:39.720 That we know of.
01:08:40.560 So it's naive to say,
01:08:42.200 oh, 100%
01:08:43.480 I know for,
01:08:44.060 there's no way
01:08:44.860 in the world
01:08:45.300 there's any aliens.
01:08:46.360 Well, what is an alien?
01:08:47.120 What is an extraterrestrial?
01:08:48.320 Is it the guy
01:08:48.700 that looks like in the movies?
01:08:50.120 We've only been around
01:08:50.960 for a few thousand years,
01:08:51.980 whether it's 6,000 years,
01:08:53.180 whatever number
01:08:53.700 you want to say
01:08:54.260 with humans
01:08:55.380 and mankind
01:08:56.000 and all these different numbers
01:08:57.180 that you read about.
01:08:58.160 It's kind of naive
01:08:59.220 to be arrogant
01:08:59.940 and to think
01:09:00.820 that somebody
01:09:01.600 in some civilization
01:09:03.280 may not be out there
01:09:04.360 or whatever
01:09:04.740 you want to talk about.
01:09:06.240 But the other part
01:09:07.620 is
01:09:08.080 with the link
01:09:09.880 between water
01:09:10.840 and sun,
01:09:12.100 the distance
01:09:12.760 for a galaxy
01:09:13.960 to be away
01:09:14.640 from the sun
01:09:15.240 and knowing the fact
01:09:16.560 that you're in this world.
01:09:17.400 I know I was reading
01:09:18.000 an article earlier
01:09:18.860 saying the fact
01:09:19.640 that NASA found
01:09:20.580 somewhere
01:09:22.980 a planet
01:09:23.900 that had water
01:09:25.520 4.5 billion years ago,
01:09:27.220 et cetera, et cetera.
01:09:27.840 I don't know
01:09:28.140 if you saw that article
01:09:28.960 or not.
01:09:29.880 So could there be
01:09:31.520 a possibility
01:09:32.520 or maybe you even know
01:09:34.120 this based on research
01:09:35.060 that there is
01:09:36.520 another planet
01:09:38.320 with people
01:09:39.400 that look like us humans
01:09:41.060 that, oh,
01:09:41.660 there's water,
01:09:42.980 there's people
01:09:43.680 that are building
01:09:44.320 similar stuff to us.
01:09:45.540 Is there any chance
01:09:46.460 that that could also exist?
01:09:48.500 Yes, I think it's very likely.
01:09:50.020 In fact,
01:09:50.360 one of the species
01:09:51.320 that we had a contact with
01:09:53.800 looked very similar
01:09:57.200 to humans.
01:09:59.240 And this is also
01:10:00.860 in the documentary.
01:10:02.040 It was an ET
01:10:03.120 that appeared
01:10:03.920 in the desert
01:10:06.040 at Joshua Tree National Park
01:10:07.800 with our team.
01:10:09.360 And a person
01:10:10.620 right beside me
01:10:11.640 took a photograph
01:10:12.960 of this being
01:10:15.640 and he actually looks
01:10:17.960 very similar
01:10:19.360 to a human
01:10:19.980 with a receding hairline.
01:10:22.280 And the information
01:10:25.080 we got from him
01:10:26.800 was that he was
01:10:27.480 from the Andromeda galaxy,
01:10:29.260 which is about
01:10:30.140 two and a half million
01:10:31.000 light years from Earth,
01:10:32.680 which is a twin galaxy
01:10:34.320 to the Milky Way.
01:10:35.320 It's a spiral galaxy.
01:10:37.260 How many miles away?
01:10:38.680 2.5 million light years.
01:10:41.160 So he has like
01:10:41.920 the ultimate Uber
01:10:42.780 to get on
01:10:44.260 and figure out
01:10:44.760 a way to get over here.
01:10:45.840 Yeah, but here's
01:10:46.900 the thing to remember.
01:10:47.900 If you're not dealing
01:10:48.780 with linear,
01:10:49.800 distance doesn't matter
01:10:50.880 if you're dealing
01:10:52.940 with a non-local
01:10:54.300 teleportation
01:10:56.380 and communication system.
01:10:57.680 So distance only matters
01:10:59.520 when you're locked
01:11:00.360 into the linear box
01:11:02.720 of space-time.
01:11:03.640 When your technologies
01:11:05.160 are advanced enough,
01:11:07.800 what happens is that
01:11:09.120 an entire spacecraft,
01:11:10.720 it would be enormous,
01:11:12.220 can actually resonantly
01:11:14.120 shift into what
01:11:15.480 some people call
01:11:16.240 another dimension,
01:11:17.660 another field of energy,
01:11:19.460 bypass linear space-time
01:11:21.180 and reappear
01:11:22.620 or rematerialize
01:11:24.020 in another point.
01:11:25.040 And that's actually
01:11:25.980 how they're happening.
01:11:27.280 Now, if you look
01:11:28.260 at the science behind,
01:11:30.140 there have been
01:11:30.720 particle teleportation
01:11:32.260 experiences of that
01:11:34.080 physicist and experiments.
01:11:36.200 But we're talking
01:11:37.500 doing this on a macro level
01:11:38.960 with an entire spacecraft
01:11:40.500 and everyone on board it.
01:11:42.240 But again,
01:11:43.020 we're dealing with
01:11:43.600 civilizations that are
01:11:45.100 10 to the 6th,
01:11:47.200 10 to the 9th years,
01:11:48.960 100,000 to millions
01:11:50.700 of years more developed
01:11:52.120 than we are.
01:11:53.280 And if you were to go back,
01:11:54.420 I think part of this
01:11:55.300 is human hubris
01:11:56.700 that we think that we're
01:11:58.240 at the apex of technology.
01:11:59.660 If you were to go back
01:12:00.960 down the road
01:12:01.780 from where I'm sitting here
01:12:02.960 is Thomas Jefferson's home.
01:12:05.280 So if I were to go back
01:12:06.720 in time and show
01:12:07.640 Thomas Jefferson
01:12:08.800 my smartphone,
01:12:10.620 well, you might be
01:12:11.680 burned at the stake
01:12:12.360 as a witch.
01:12:12.860 It would look like magic.
01:12:15.220 So almost anything
01:12:16.620 we have today,
01:12:18.260 if you show that
01:12:19.200 to someone from
01:12:19.980 2,000 years ago,
01:12:21.140 the time of the birth
01:12:21.960 of Christ,
01:12:23.380 you'd be lucky
01:12:24.100 if you weren't burned
01:12:25.300 as a witch
01:12:26.000 or a sorcerer.
01:12:26.900 It would look like magic.
01:12:28.280 Now, let's extrapolate
01:12:29.880 where we've come
01:12:31.340 just in the last
01:12:32.060 100 or 200 years
01:12:33.320 of the technological
01:12:34.700 industrial revolution.
01:12:36.340 Let's extrapolate out
01:12:37.860 100,000,
01:12:39.540 200,000,
01:12:40.660 a million,
01:12:41.800 10 million,
01:12:42.780 a billion years.
01:12:44.300 So in a universe
01:12:45.980 that's at least
01:12:46.620 13 to 15 billion years old,
01:12:50.120 it's a certainty
01:12:51.780 that there are civilizations
01:12:53.060 that are that many
01:12:54.520 orders of magnitude
01:12:55.560 more developed
01:12:56.300 than we are.
01:12:56.960 And so I think
01:12:58.200 this gets back
01:12:59.400 to this importance
01:13:00.920 of scientific empiricism,
01:13:03.660 observation of facts,
01:13:05.340 because what we have
01:13:06.940 happen,
01:13:07.900 it happens in society
01:13:09.340 all the time,
01:13:10.380 if someone observes
01:13:12.300 something that doesn't
01:13:13.660 conform with the paradigm,
01:13:15.760 they are pilloried
01:13:17.660 and they are thrown
01:13:18.880 out of society.
01:13:20.700 I'll give you an example.
01:13:21.880 Right here at the
01:13:22.380 University of Virginia
01:13:23.340 some years ago,
01:13:24.600 a brilliant doctor
01:13:25.720 discovered that
01:13:27.440 there was a type
01:13:28.200 of bacterium
01:13:29.040 that was responsible
01:13:30.920 for a lot of the worst
01:13:32.240 bleeding ulcers
01:13:33.380 in stomachs.
01:13:34.620 But because that ran
01:13:36.000 against the medical paradigm
01:13:37.500 of it all being
01:13:39.340 caused of acid
01:13:40.340 and this and that,
01:13:42.000 he had to leave America
01:13:43.160 and ended up in Australia.
01:13:45.460 Now,
01:13:46.040 if you don't test,
01:13:47.060 if you have a patient
01:13:47.800 with a bleeding ulcer
01:13:48.700 and you don't test
01:13:50.180 for this bacterium,
01:13:51.540 because if it's there,
01:13:52.400 it's easily treated
01:13:53.240 with doxycycline.
01:13:54.760 If you don't test
01:13:55.680 for that,
01:13:56.020 it's medical malpractice.
01:13:57.700 But his life
01:13:58.740 was ruined
01:13:59.320 and his reputation
01:14:00.800 was ruined
01:14:01.600 because he dare
01:14:02.980 speak the heresy
01:14:04.900 of an observed
01:14:06.680 fact
01:14:07.660 that ran against
01:14:09.000 scientific orthodoxy.
01:14:11.580 And what I'm saying
01:14:12.900 to the public is
01:14:13.820 the facts on this issue
01:14:15.660 are there.
01:14:17.120 They have to be
01:14:18.160 recognized as facts.
01:14:20.100 Maybe if you could come
01:14:22.340 to a different conclusion
01:14:23.260 than I have,
01:14:24.660 but as Senator
01:14:25.840 Daniel Patrick Moynihan said,
01:14:28.280 everyone's entitled
01:14:29.120 to their own opinion
01:14:30.180 but not their own
01:14:31.200 set of facts.
01:14:32.420 So the facts
01:14:33.700 that we need
01:14:34.260 to deal with
01:14:35.040 empirically
01:14:36.180 as observed
01:14:37.860 phenomenon
01:14:38.860 have to be
01:14:39.860 accounted for.
01:14:40.520 Now,
01:14:40.700 if our scientific
01:14:41.600 paradigm
01:14:43.040 doesn't quite account
01:14:44.300 for all the strange
01:14:45.700 things that are observed,
01:14:47.260 it doesn't mean
01:14:48.060 it's not legitimate.
01:14:49.160 It just means
01:14:49.780 our science
01:14:50.820 is very early.
01:14:52.200 We're only in
01:14:52.840 the first
01:14:53.420 couple hundred years
01:14:55.240 of any real level
01:14:56.620 of scientific
01:14:57.420 rigor.
01:14:59.520 And so
01:15:00.020 there needs to be
01:15:01.340 some degree
01:15:02.020 of humility
01:15:02.620 on the part
01:15:03.260 of humans
01:15:04.260 about the fact
01:15:06.040 that we are
01:15:06.540 sort of one half
01:15:07.820 of one step
01:15:08.480 out of the jungle
01:15:09.200 as a species,
01:15:11.120 but we're already
01:15:12.280 dealing with
01:15:13.200 advanced civilizations
01:15:14.460 that are several
01:15:15.720 orders of magnitude
01:15:17.000 past where we are.
01:15:18.420 And that's okay.
01:15:19.240 I mean,
01:15:19.580 this is how
01:15:20.020 civilizations evolved.
01:15:22.380 I think you make
01:15:23.900 a very good point
01:15:24.520 to say if we were
01:15:25.360 to go back
01:15:25.940 2,000 years ago
01:15:27.100 and show it an iPhone
01:15:27.880 what they would react
01:15:28.880 to and what happens
01:15:30.240 if we go 1,000 years,
01:15:31.560 100,000 years,
01:15:32.780 I don't even know
01:15:33.420 if we're going to
01:15:33.840 make it that long
01:15:34.580 out because of
01:15:35.460 the fact that we
01:15:36.760 may have too much
01:15:37.600 divisiveness
01:15:38.280 and going at each other.
01:15:39.300 But teleporting,
01:15:40.440 you said the fact
01:15:41.140 that, you know,
01:15:42.000 how they teleport.
01:15:42.840 Obviously,
01:15:43.160 you see that in movies
01:15:43.980 and you wonder,
01:15:46.000 can we one day
01:15:46.660 have that technology?
01:15:47.740 Who knows?
01:15:48.160 Maybe Warren Buffett
01:15:49.140 sold his shares
01:15:50.020 in airlines
01:15:50.540 because he thinks
01:15:51.380 teleporting is the
01:15:52.280 next phenomenon
01:15:53.380 that we haven't
01:15:53.940 experienced yet.
01:15:55.180 Actually,
01:15:55.820 classified projects
01:15:57.180 have already done
01:15:57.780 what you're suggesting.
01:15:59.300 Classified projects
01:16:00.200 have already done
01:16:00.820 teleporting?
01:16:01.800 Yes.
01:16:04.300 That's intense.
01:16:05.960 Do you know
01:16:06.780 if a human
01:16:08.520 has ever had sex
01:16:09.360 with an alien?
01:16:10.540 I do not know
01:16:11.600 and nor do I want to know.
01:16:13.520 I asked that question
01:16:14.500 for a different reason.
01:16:15.720 I asked that question
01:16:16.280 for a different reason.
01:16:17.140 I seriously doubt it.
01:16:18.600 Okay.
01:16:19.000 Yeah.
01:16:19.240 I asked that because
01:16:20.040 I wonder when you're saying,
01:16:22.100 you know,
01:16:22.780 the person that had
01:16:25.760 a hairline,
01:16:26.380 you know,
01:16:26.640 receding hairline
01:16:27.500 and he looked like,
01:16:30.200 even the topic
01:16:34.560 got me coughing here
01:16:35.640 with human seven six
01:16:37.160 with alien kids.
01:16:39.360 Almost reminded me
01:16:42.840 of the movie Avatar.
01:16:43.860 You know,
01:16:44.080 in Avatar,
01:16:44.580 how the guy falls in love
01:16:45.660 with the alien.
01:16:46.320 I don't know if you've seen
01:16:46.900 the movie Avatar.
01:16:49.560 But I wonder
01:16:50.680 if there was any stories there.
01:16:52.000 So what are your thoughts
01:16:53.120 about Area 51?
01:16:55.440 Well,
01:16:55.900 you know,
01:16:56.160 that's a grid name.
01:16:58.260 So the actual proper name
01:17:00.600 is the Nevada Test Range
01:17:02.460 and Nellis Air Force Base.
01:17:04.860 And to be specific,
01:17:06.520 in what the pop culture
01:17:08.560 calls Area 51,
01:17:10.140 nobody in my circle
01:17:11.500 calls it that.
01:17:12.540 The key names are
01:17:13.680 S3,
01:17:15.140 S4,
01:17:16.000 S9,
01:17:16.740 S12,
01:17:18.100 Groom Lake,
01:17:19.040 Pahut Mesa.
01:17:20.060 So there are two parts
01:17:22.320 of that operation.
01:17:24.140 The ones that,
01:17:25.840 there's part of it
01:17:26.820 that is the energy transfer part,
01:17:29.900 where they are studying
01:17:32.920 retrieved extraterrestrial vehicles
01:17:35.780 that we have,
01:17:36.860 when we have these,
01:17:38.460 and studying
01:17:39.540 how they operate,
01:17:41.560 all the different systems.
01:17:43.220 And then there's
01:17:43.940 another part of it
01:17:45.360 where they are building up
01:17:47.120 human,
01:17:48.820 let's call it
01:17:49.580 reverse engineered,
01:17:50.820 as close as we can get,
01:17:52.460 versions of those.
01:17:53.720 So there are two
01:17:54.880 sets of operations.
01:17:57.200 There are almost
01:17:58.000 no contact
01:17:59.680 between the people
01:18:00.980 in the DUM,
01:18:02.600 the deep underground
01:18:03.360 military base
01:18:04.440 where the ET craft
01:18:05.920 are held
01:18:06.700 that are working
01:18:07.760 on the other.
01:18:08.740 There's sort of
01:18:09.320 a firewall,
01:18:11.140 but things are transferred,
01:18:12.500 but the people
01:18:13.000 working on the one
01:18:13.860 are not just going
01:18:14.840 back and forth.
01:18:16.180 I know men
01:18:17.340 who've worked on both.
01:18:19.040 I also know
01:18:20.520 the Air Force Office
01:18:22.880 of Special Investigations
01:18:24.540 officer
01:18:25.980 who investigated
01:18:27.200 one of these
01:18:28.220 objects
01:18:29.160 we were test flying
01:18:30.240 that was actually
01:18:31.560 an ET object,
01:18:33.500 but we couldn't figure
01:18:34.200 out the energy system
01:18:35.320 properly,
01:18:35.840 so we put on
01:18:36.440 a portable
01:18:37.000 nuclear power plant
01:18:40.260 on it
01:18:40.720 that unfortunately
01:18:41.640 had a malfunction,
01:18:42.760 and it went down
01:18:43.500 over the outskirts
01:18:44.480 of Houston
01:18:45.080 and irradiated
01:18:46.600 a lot of civilians
01:18:47.540 there.
01:18:48.840 And this is called
01:18:50.260 the Cash Landrum case
01:18:51.680 if you want to Google it.
01:18:53.080 And this man
01:18:54.140 came forward
01:18:55.060 a couple years ago
01:18:56.620 and confirmed
01:18:58.280 that those were actually
01:19:00.040 four human pilots
01:19:01.960 trying to get
01:19:03.080 this ET object
01:19:04.480 to operate,
01:19:05.640 but they had
01:19:06.920 this power source
01:19:08.120 on it
01:19:08.540 that had a malfunction
01:19:09.660 that unfortunately
01:19:10.700 radiated the people 0.99
01:19:12.400 below.
01:19:12.880 And of course,
01:19:13.280 the military
01:19:13.720 denied knowledge
01:19:14.760 of it,
01:19:15.760 and in fact,
01:19:16.620 the people
01:19:17.040 who were approached
01:19:19.220 by both the media
01:19:20.780 and the public,
01:19:21.820 the injured parties
01:19:23.240 actually sued
01:19:24.020 the U.S. government,
01:19:25.160 and it got tossed out
01:19:26.240 because the government
01:19:26.700 said we have no knowledge
01:19:27.560 of that.
01:19:28.200 But the truth is
01:19:29.020 the ones who were being asked
01:19:30.440 did have no knowledge.
01:19:32.000 That's the nature
01:19:32.720 of a highly compartmented,
01:19:34.500 unacknowledged
01:19:35.260 special access project.
01:19:36.880 But that craft
01:19:38.040 that malfunctioned
01:19:39.360 over outside Houston,
01:19:41.340 I believe it was
01:19:42.040 in the early 80s,
01:19:43.260 that was from
01:19:44.280 the Nellis Range,
01:19:45.400 from the part
01:19:46.920 that had
01:19:47.400 the study group
01:19:49.300 that was working
01:19:50.080 on the ET object.
01:19:51.640 Now,
01:19:52.040 there are other facilities
01:19:52.980 that are actually
01:19:53.700 much more important
01:19:54.700 than that one
01:19:55.440 outside of Salt Lake City,
01:19:58.120 outside Provo.
01:19:58.900 There's something
01:19:59.400 called the Dugway
01:20:00.100 Proving Grounds,
01:20:01.380 and there's a very large
01:20:02.920 underground facility
01:20:03.880 there that my team
01:20:06.020 members have been to.
01:20:07.560 There's an underground
01:20:08.820 facility at Edwards
01:20:10.240 Air Force Base
01:20:11.160 and up in the
01:20:11.640 high desert of California
01:20:12.900 and near Palmdale
01:20:14.620 and Lancaster
01:20:15.420 and the Lockheed
01:20:16.900 Skunk Works,
01:20:17.940 and the really key
01:20:18.960 facilities there
01:20:19.940 are all also
01:20:21.420 underground.
01:20:21.900 underground.
01:20:23.020 And, you know,
01:20:23.760 so we know
01:20:24.440 where a number
01:20:25.560 of these facilities
01:20:26.620 are.
01:20:28.340 You know,
01:20:28.580 over the years
01:20:29.400 I've developed
01:20:30.360 relationships,
01:20:31.040 as I mentioned,
01:20:31.920 with hundreds
01:20:33.400 of people
01:20:34.140 who've worked
01:20:34.800 and are currently
01:20:35.720 working
01:20:36.200 in those facilities
01:20:37.500 who give us
01:20:38.120 information.
01:20:39.200 You're starting
01:20:39.860 to concern me
01:20:40.360 because I have
01:20:40.820 an office in Palmdale
01:20:41.740 and the people
01:20:42.200 that concern me
01:20:42.860 every once in a while
01:20:43.600 when I work with them.
01:20:45.180 But they're probably
01:20:46.120 going to see this.
01:20:46.660 But, you know,
01:20:49.400 talking about Area 51,
01:20:51.280 S3, S12,
01:20:52.740 you know,
01:20:52.960 the place you talk
01:20:53.680 about in Provo,
01:20:54.800 outside of Provo,
01:20:56.160 what is in there?
01:20:57.200 Like, are they
01:20:57.860 holding UFOs
01:21:00.480 or extraterrestrial
01:21:02.040 aliens maybe?
01:21:03.100 Are they holding
01:21:03.600 them hostage?
01:21:04.280 What is in there?
01:21:05.140 If somebody was able
01:21:05.840 to sneak in there,
01:21:06.640 what are we going
01:21:07.320 to see?
01:21:09.220 You have 980
01:21:10.480 whistleblowers.
01:21:11.280 I'm curious.
01:21:11.640 Somebody's probably
01:21:12.220 giving you information
01:21:12.940 on that.
01:21:14.260 Oh, yeah.
01:21:14.700 A lot.
01:21:15.220 The facilities
01:21:17.460 have ET craft
01:21:19.600 that are stored.
01:21:21.740 The bodies,
01:21:22.800 most of the folks
01:21:25.520 did not survive
01:21:26.440 the downing
01:21:27.940 of the object
01:21:28.520 and retrieval.
01:21:29.880 Those are stored.
01:21:31.340 They're autopsied
01:21:32.120 and then stored.
01:21:32.920 I know a man
01:21:33.540 at Fort Huachuca
01:21:34.500 in Arizona,
01:21:36.160 which is Army
01:21:36.620 Intelligence Headquarters,
01:21:38.100 and out from that
01:21:39.160 base underground
01:21:39.960 is a facility
01:21:40.860 where there are
01:21:42.100 nine different
01:21:43.060 ET craft
01:21:43.960 that over the years
01:21:44.720 have been retrieved
01:21:45.540 and a number
01:21:46.780 of bodies
01:21:47.580 that are stored
01:21:48.240 there.
01:21:49.720 Are they living?
01:21:50.800 Living aliens?
01:21:51.420 No, they're all dead.
01:21:52.400 No, they're all dead.
01:21:53.480 They're all dead.
01:21:54.640 So we don't have
01:21:55.860 any living aliens
01:21:57.140 at any of our locations
01:21:58.360 that you know of?
01:22:00.340 If there are any
01:22:01.300 currently,
01:22:02.020 I don't know about it.
01:22:03.160 I do know that
01:22:03.980 one that lived
01:22:05.640 and survived
01:22:06.380 after the so-called
01:22:08.300 Roswell event,
01:22:09.460 which actually did happen,
01:22:11.180 but it's not what you think.
01:22:12.380 It's not what you've been told.
01:22:13.260 But one of them
01:22:14.820 did live
01:22:15.460 at least
01:22:16.020 until 1951.
01:22:18.240 And I have
01:22:18.860 an Army
01:22:19.260 Intelligence Officer
01:22:20.440 who actually
01:22:21.200 saw that being
01:22:22.520 in a cage
01:22:24.260 near Camp Perry,
01:22:26.660 near Williamsburg,
01:22:27.520 Virginia,
01:22:28.340 not too far
01:22:29.060 from where I am.
01:22:30.580 I understand
01:22:31.820 that that
01:22:32.540 particular being
01:22:33.840 died not long
01:22:34.700 after that.
01:22:36.440 That's interesting.
01:22:37.020 By the way,
01:22:37.340 do you know
01:22:37.560 what they eat?
01:22:39.160 I really don't.
01:22:41.460 I mean,
01:22:41.640 there's no conjecture.
01:22:42.760 I personally
01:22:43.600 don't have
01:22:44.040 information about that.
01:22:45.200 I'm sure there are
01:22:45.760 different civilizations
01:22:46.640 and they eat
01:22:47.220 different things.
01:22:47.860 They eat them
01:22:48.280 something, right?
01:22:49.580 I mean,
01:22:50.380 I wonder what
01:22:50.860 they're going to say.
01:22:51.320 I want like
01:22:51.740 a medium rare hamburger,
01:22:52.960 you know,
01:22:53.140 a cheeseburger,
01:22:53.520 like American food,
01:22:55.020 Middle Eastern food.
01:22:55.940 That I don't know.
01:22:57.400 Yeah,
01:22:57.680 I'd be curious
01:22:58.360 because maybe
01:22:58.980 I bet they're probably
01:23:00.460 fun conversations
01:23:01.940 to have with them.
01:23:03.620 A few last items
01:23:05.160 here before we wrap up.
01:23:06.040 What are your biggest
01:23:07.380 concerns
01:23:08.360 with future threats?
01:23:11.460 You know,
01:23:11.620 we have a lot of people
01:23:12.500 right now
01:23:13.000 that are worried
01:23:13.580 about many different things.
01:23:14.700 They're worried about,
01:23:15.600 you know,
01:23:16.300 what's going to happen
01:23:16.820 with U.S. and China?
01:23:17.720 What's going to happen
01:23:18.220 with oil?
01:23:18.800 What's going to happen
01:23:19.360 with coronavirus,
01:23:20.720 pandemics,
01:23:22.100 biowarfare,
01:23:23.140 cyber war?
01:23:24.320 What do you think
01:23:26.140 is the biggest threat
01:23:27.400 in the future?
01:23:29.400 I think it may be
01:23:30.480 unfolding right now.
01:23:32.060 And as a medical doctor,
01:23:33.480 I'm appalled
01:23:34.160 and shocked
01:23:34.800 at how we have managed
01:23:36.180 and mismanaged
01:23:37.000 this COVID-19 crisis.
01:23:39.840 We don't have time
01:23:40.620 to go into all that,
01:23:41.840 but the folks I have
01:23:44.080 who worked at Fort Detrick
01:23:45.240 in the biowarfare army
01:23:47.140 have confirmed to me
01:23:48.780 that that was,
01:23:49.820 in fact,
01:23:50.100 a bioengineered virus,
01:23:53.980 that the response
01:23:56.340 that we're having to it
01:23:57.540 is likely to kill
01:23:59.460 many more people
01:24:00.340 than the virus could.
01:24:01.340 In other words,
01:24:02.000 because of the collapse
01:24:04.180 of the economy,
01:24:06.040 somewhere around
01:24:08.320 two to three million people
01:24:10.040 may die
01:24:11.640 from poverty,
01:24:13.620 unemployment,
01:24:14.820 not getting medical attention
01:24:16.680 early enough
01:24:17.280 for heart attacks
01:24:18.020 and strokes.
01:24:18.860 Many of my emergency
01:24:19.880 doctor friends
01:24:20.580 are telling me this
01:24:21.580 who are still in the ER.
01:24:23.120 I'm not in the ER
01:24:23.880 right now.
01:24:24.540 And if you add
01:24:26.620 all those deaths up,
01:24:28.700 there are about
01:24:29.160 three to four times
01:24:30.280 the number
01:24:30.820 of possible deaths
01:24:32.100 from COVID-19.
01:24:34.660 And so,
01:24:35.480 you know,
01:24:35.740 what a lot of countries did,
01:24:37.580 they did lockdown
01:24:38.580 and then they had
01:24:39.620 widespread testing
01:24:40.900 and then
01:24:42.060 they opened up society
01:24:44.000 so things could begin
01:24:45.380 to get back to normal.
01:24:47.000 Well,
01:24:47.540 we didn't do that
01:24:48.420 because there's no
01:24:49.240 widespread testing
01:24:50.300 of either antibodies
01:24:51.300 or the virus
01:24:53.300 enough to know
01:24:54.420 what we're doing.
01:24:56.020 But at the same time,
01:24:57.060 because of that,
01:24:58.060 people are wanting
01:24:58.680 to extend
01:24:59.340 into 2021.
01:25:01.220 Some people are saying
01:25:02.180 2022
01:25:02.840 aspects of this lockdown.
01:25:05.340 Well,
01:25:05.620 that will leave
01:25:06.200 our economy in ashes.
01:25:08.140 And if you're
01:25:08.480 a public health official,
01:25:10.220 you can't just look
01:25:11.280 at one metric,
01:25:12.260 i.e.
01:25:12.940 COVID-19 deaths.
01:25:14.300 You've also got to look
01:25:15.540 at all the people
01:25:16.440 who are going to die
01:25:17.540 from alcoholism,
01:25:19.000 suicide, 0.90
01:25:20.180 murder,
01:25:20.600 a wife beatings,
01:25:22.580 heart attacks,
01:25:23.760 strokes,
01:25:24.740 poverty,
01:25:25.740 not getting medical care,
01:25:27.540 on and on and on
01:25:28.820 and on and on.
01:25:29.900 And when you add
01:25:30.640 all those up,
01:25:32.120 you end up getting
01:25:33.160 a number
01:25:33.900 from what we're doing
01:25:35.840 to respond
01:25:36.600 to the virus
01:25:37.440 that far exceeds
01:25:39.180 the worst possible
01:25:40.400 estimates
01:25:41.120 of deaths
01:25:42.320 from the virus
01:25:43.020 if we even
01:25:43.720 let it run amok.
01:25:45.000 So,
01:25:45.680 it's probably
01:25:46.340 the most
01:25:47.100 poorly managed
01:25:48.500 crisis
01:25:49.560 that I've observed
01:25:50.960 in my lifetime.
01:25:52.120 And I was born
01:25:52.740 in 1955.
01:25:54.840 How would you have done it?
01:25:55.940 How would you have done it?
01:25:57.160 Would you have taken
01:25:57.780 a Sweden approach?
01:26:00.220 Yes,
01:26:00.700 a modified Sweden approach
01:26:02.120 where there would have been,
01:26:03.480 through the Defense Authorization Act,
01:26:05.600 massive standing up
01:26:07.060 of testing
01:26:07.760 for both the virus
01:26:09.180 and antibodies
01:26:10.020 so we would know
01:26:11.180 exactly where it is,
01:26:12.880 contain it,
01:26:13.960 but then let
01:26:14.460 the rest of society
01:26:16.300 function
01:26:17.000 as normally
01:26:17.680 as possible.
01:26:19.400 For example,
01:26:20.240 in Sweden,
01:26:20.880 it's against the law
01:26:21.560 not to send your children
01:26:22.460 to school.
01:26:23.300 And what I'm seeing
01:26:24.980 in ARCA,
01:26:25.640 I have nine grandchildren.
01:26:27.460 I have a tenth
01:26:27.960 on the way.
01:26:29.520 And what I'm seeing
01:26:30.840 is that
01:26:31.520 we're,
01:26:33.740 and even though
01:26:34.660 there,
01:26:35.280 you know,
01:26:35.540 in the flu season
01:26:36.700 a couple years ago,
01:26:37.920 172 children
01:26:39.240 died of the flu.
01:26:40.440 There have only been
01:26:40.940 three CDC-reported deaths
01:26:42.660 of children
01:26:43.060 from coronavirus.
01:26:44.020 So we have to figure
01:26:46.300 a way to do this
01:26:47.420 in a smart way,
01:26:48.820 but to do it
01:26:49.560 in a smart way,
01:26:51.060 we would have to
01:26:51.940 stand up competence
01:26:53.700 from federal
01:26:55.540 and state governments
01:26:56.580 to do ubiquitous
01:26:58.240 testing.
01:26:59.220 And we haven't done that.
01:27:00.140 We squandered
01:27:00.980 four months
01:27:01.900 since January.
01:27:02.720 And by the way,
01:27:03.800 the people I know
01:27:04.840 in the military,
01:27:07.000 the people with PhDs
01:27:09.000 in biological warfare,
01:27:10.940 this was on their radar
01:27:12.300 in December of 2019.
01:27:15.140 And it was known now,
01:27:16.820 it's been proven now
01:27:17.560 that the virus
01:27:18.180 was loose in our society
01:27:19.640 in December of 2019
01:27:22.140 in Europe
01:27:22.760 and the United States.
01:27:24.260 So we've lost
01:27:25.460 four months
01:27:26.300 where we should have
01:27:27.440 stood up that capability
01:27:28.740 and infrastructure.
01:27:30.100 But if we,
01:27:30.840 if we stay on the path
01:27:32.120 we're on
01:27:32.760 with this
01:27:33.600 is open-ended lockdown,
01:27:35.620 the number of deaths
01:27:37.120 from poverty
01:27:37.860 and unemployment,
01:27:39.260 and I think,
01:27:39.860 frankly,
01:27:40.100 we'll enter into
01:27:40.840 something worse
01:27:41.600 than the Great Depression
01:27:42.480 if we're not careful.
01:27:44.460 That,
01:27:44.780 that the,
01:27:45.480 my mother
01:27:46.100 grew up
01:27:47.000 during the Great Depression 0.99
01:27:47.880 and
01:27:48.940 the consequences
01:27:51.500 of that
01:27:52.360 and the death
01:27:53.620 from that
01:27:54.320 would be greater
01:27:55.820 than
01:27:56.940 from the virus itself.
01:27:59.140 So,
01:27:59.920 now,
01:28:00.440 the other concern
01:28:01.180 I have
01:28:01.880 as someone who's,
01:28:03.620 my mother's family
01:28:05.180 were
01:28:05.480 the unfortunate
01:28:07.100 early losers
01:28:08.220 in the Revolutionary War
01:28:10.420 with the British
01:28:11.140 and were the first
01:28:11.820 prisoner of war
01:28:12.640 with the British
01:28:13.300 in the Pennsylvania Dutch.
01:28:16.360 And what,
01:28:17.060 what,
01:28:17.600 what I'm looking at
01:28:19.100 is
01:28:19.460 what happens
01:28:20.800 when,
01:28:21.680 like,
01:28:21.780 I was at my home
01:28:22.460 in D.C.
01:28:23.460 recently.
01:28:24.380 At the Safeway
01:28:25.560 in a nice neighborhood,
01:28:26.640 there were
01:28:27.800 a cluster
01:28:28.780 of Army National Guard
01:28:30.280 people
01:28:30.760 and a phalanx
01:28:32.280 of police
01:28:32.960 at the,
01:28:35.000 to go buy
01:28:35.540 your bread.
01:28:36.980 So,
01:28:37.740 the concern
01:28:38.440 I have
01:28:39.140 is
01:28:39.480 this virus
01:28:41.300 being used
01:28:42.360 to engage
01:28:43.720 in excessive
01:28:44.560 police state
01:28:45.580 tactics
01:28:46.280 that suspend
01:28:47.780 freedom of assembly,
01:28:49.120 freedom of speech,
01:28:50.680 freedom,
01:28:51.180 all kinds of freedoms,
01:28:52.140 and freedom
01:28:52.640 to make a living
01:28:53.400 and freedom
01:28:54.300 to have
01:28:55.280 the pursuit
01:28:55.820 of happiness.
01:28:56.880 Now,
01:28:57.220 is there a balance
01:28:58.000 that needs to be struck?
01:28:58.920 Absolutely.
01:28:59.800 We need widespread,
01:29:01.240 ubiquitous testing,
01:29:03.660 contact tracing
01:29:04.640 while we open
01:29:06.180 society up
01:29:07.240 and that
01:29:08.240 is what should
01:29:09.480 have happened
01:29:10.120 beginning in January.
01:29:11.960 The ball got dropped
01:29:13.080 in January,
01:29:14.600 February,
01:29:15.820 March,
01:29:16.720 April.
01:29:17.140 We've still dropped
01:29:17.920 that ball.
01:29:18.620 I'm just being blunt
01:29:19.380 with you
01:29:19.900 as an emergency doctor
01:29:22.640 and there are other
01:29:23.120 emergency doctors
01:29:23.980 who have said
01:29:24.420 the same thing
01:29:25.200 but their videos
01:29:26.260 have been banned
01:29:26.800 off of YouTube.
01:29:27.640 Yeah,
01:29:27.940 plenty of them.
01:29:28.900 Do you believe
01:29:29.480 there's an element
01:29:30.000 of Project Mockingbird
01:29:30.920 taking place
01:29:31.520 or no?
01:29:32.720 100%.
01:29:33.200 Do you think
01:29:34.440 any commentators,
01:29:38.960 any of these
01:29:39.560 major anchors
01:29:41.440 that you see
01:29:41.920 on CNN,
01:29:42.560 MSNBC,
01:29:43.320 Fox,
01:29:43.960 ABC,
01:29:44.460 any of these guys,
01:29:45.500 do you think
01:29:45.960 any of them
01:29:46.860 could potentially
01:29:47.820 be also CIA agents
01:29:49.540 or no?
01:29:50.500 They don't know about it.
01:29:51.480 It's behind the scenes
01:29:52.160 executives.
01:29:53.760 Well,
01:29:53.920 the way that works
01:29:54.780 is that
01:29:55.340 you're talking
01:29:56.220 about the teleprompter
01:29:57.160 junkies,
01:29:58.020 monkeys.
01:29:59.460 I mean,
01:29:59.600 they're the ones
01:30:00.040 reading,
01:30:00.420 they're the ones
01:30:01.080 the editors,
01:30:03.540 the national security
01:30:04.480 and key editors
01:30:05.320 that decide
01:30:06.020 this story runs,
01:30:07.540 this story doesn't.
01:30:09.140 That's the control point,
01:30:10.700 not the people
01:30:11.440 who are,
01:30:12.420 the talent,
01:30:13.400 let's call it,
01:30:13.960 that's on the camera.
01:30:15.480 So,
01:30:16.200 it's the control system
01:30:18.280 behind the camera
01:30:19.320 and the editors
01:30:20.840 and who decides
01:30:21.640 what story is running,
01:30:22.660 what isn't.
01:30:23.040 Who writes that?
01:30:23.640 How much of what's said
01:30:24.620 is what the anchor
01:30:27.480 takes ownership with
01:30:28.420 and how much of it
01:30:29.020 is the editor
01:30:29.480 that wrote it
01:30:29.980 and he's simply
01:30:30.520 reading it
01:30:30.960 or she's reading it?
01:30:32.360 Well,
01:30:32.620 both is happening,
01:30:33.600 obviously,
01:30:34.460 but what's decided
01:30:37.020 to be on that program
01:30:38.420 goes through a filter
01:30:39.440 and that's where
01:30:40.660 you get into the problem.
01:30:41.640 Now,
01:30:41.780 I think there have been
01:30:43.100 on all the networks
01:30:44.260 some physicians
01:30:45.160 and others
01:30:45.700 that have surfaced
01:30:46.320 and said,
01:30:46.860 here's what we need
01:30:47.860 to be doing
01:30:48.400 and there are others
01:30:49.480 who have said,
01:30:50.040 look what's going on
01:30:50.800 in Sweden.
01:30:51.860 They may have
01:30:52.580 herd immunity
01:30:53.340 by June or July.
01:30:56.040 What I think
01:30:56.940 in the United States,
01:30:58.480 we have the worst
01:30:59.260 of both worlds
01:31:00.040 because we,
01:31:01.860 on the one hand,
01:31:02.600 we have a lockdown situation
01:31:05.040 and a suspension
01:31:06.120 of normal activities
01:31:07.300 that have suspended
01:31:09.100 basic individual
01:31:10.740 and civil rights
01:31:11.700 and business
01:31:12.700 and has had
01:31:13.720 massive economic damage.
01:31:16.020 But at the same time,
01:31:17.300 we haven't done
01:31:18.260 what,
01:31:19.400 let's say,
01:31:19.700 China and other,
01:31:21.200 like an authoritarian regime
01:31:23.240 like China 0.66
01:31:23.840 was able to lock
01:31:25.680 and then test
01:31:26.700 and trace everything.
01:31:27.940 But even democracies
01:31:29.020 like Germany
01:31:30.200 or Portugal
01:31:31.340 for that matter
01:31:32.760 or South Korea,
01:31:35.620 they were able
01:31:36.600 to do
01:31:37.200 very widespread testing.
01:31:39.380 And, you know,
01:31:39.560 here we have
01:31:40.020 the United States,
01:31:41.280 a medical superpower,
01:31:42.860 a technological superpower,
01:31:44.400 a financial superpower
01:31:45.540 fumbling around
01:31:47.340 incompetently.
01:31:49.900 For example,
01:31:50.860 a lot of people
01:31:51.440 don't know
01:31:51.840 that in nursing homes.
01:31:53.460 If someone starts
01:31:54.280 having symptoms
01:31:55.220 of COVID-19,
01:31:57.700 that test
01:31:58.800 that they will get
01:31:59.460 for that person
01:32:00.120 is considered
01:32:00.600 a priority too,
01:32:02.440 which means
01:32:03.160 it takes 8 to 10 days
01:32:04.360 to get the results back.
01:32:05.840 But that's where
01:32:06.500 most of the deaths
01:32:07.340 are happening.
01:32:08.440 It's sweeping through
01:32:09.760 elderly and sick populations.
01:32:12.480 So almost all
01:32:13.540 of the policies
01:32:14.320 that have been enforced
01:32:16.180 to manage this pandemic
01:32:18.260 have been upside down.
01:32:20.900 I'm just,
01:32:21.180 unfortunately,
01:32:22.660 I'm sorry to vent
01:32:23.540 on your show like this,
01:32:24.660 but I'm just outraged
01:32:25.840 by it, frankly,
01:32:27.000 as a doctor.
01:32:27.440 I mean,
01:32:27.980 I appreciate you sharing that.
01:32:29.120 I mean,
01:32:29.280 I'm curious to know
01:32:30.120 from somebody in your world.
01:32:31.100 By the way,
01:32:31.860 a quick rundown here
01:32:33.460 with alien movies.
01:32:34.300 How much of it is fiction?
01:32:35.360 How much of it is real?
01:32:36.740 And how much of it
01:32:37.440 has some truth behind it?
01:32:38.580 Men in Black.
01:32:41.580 99% fiction.
01:32:43.760 99% fiction.
01:32:45.060 Aliens, the movie.
01:32:46.720 100% fiction.
01:32:48.020 I never really see it.
01:32:49.960 Independence Day.
01:32:51.180 That's scripted
01:32:53.380 right out of
01:32:53.940 central casting at CIA
01:32:55.460 because they want everyone
01:32:56.500 to unite around
01:32:57.560 an alien threat 0.92
01:32:58.340 and that's a hoax.
01:33:00.720 Signs.
01:33:01.720 I never saw it.
01:33:03.220 Oh, really?
01:33:03.780 I think you ought to see it.
01:33:05.000 It has a lot to do
01:33:06.660 with one of the five
01:33:07.440 encounters.
01:33:09.680 It's interesting.
01:33:11.420 Cloverfield.
01:33:12.880 I don't know.
01:33:14.220 I can tell you
01:33:15.240 that Close Encounters
01:33:16.120 of the Third Kind
01:33:17.000 was a docudrama.
01:33:18.880 I have it on here as well.
01:33:20.140 Yeah.
01:33:21.340 What do you think
01:33:22.100 about the movie
01:33:22.600 Star Trek?
01:33:23.340 Are you a fan of it?
01:33:25.420 Oh, they're fun.
01:33:26.340 I mean, you know,
01:33:26.980 I mean, of course,
01:33:27.600 it's sort of
01:33:28.120 an anthropomorphic projection.
01:33:30.360 We're basically projecting
01:33:31.500 the human condition
01:33:32.400 out in space
01:33:33.200 with, you know,
01:33:34.460 cowboys and Indians
01:33:35.340 shooting at each other
01:33:36.280 and all that.
01:33:37.140 I think it's,
01:33:38.020 you know,
01:33:38.420 it's great fantasy.
01:33:39.480 I don't think
01:33:39.840 there's any legitimacy
01:33:41.240 to the way
01:33:42.500 things actually are.
01:33:43.640 Are you more
01:33:44.880 a Trekkie
01:33:45.380 or are you more
01:33:45.960 a Star Wars guy yourself?
01:33:48.160 Well,
01:33:48.500 they're all science fiction
01:33:49.660 and they all have
01:33:50.460 their pluses and minuses.
01:33:52.000 I kind of like
01:33:52.600 the whole Yoda.
01:33:54.080 If you look at
01:33:54.900 the Jedi mind trick,
01:33:56.240 I mean,
01:33:56.620 there's a lot of cool stuff
01:33:58.000 that George Lucas
01:33:58.780 worked into that.
01:34:00.180 Just like Close Encounters
01:34:01.180 of the Third Kind.
01:34:02.300 Well,
01:34:02.500 you did say
01:34:02.980 some of the aliens
01:34:03.720 you met
01:34:04.120 are two feet tall.
01:34:05.180 So,
01:34:05.320 I mean,
01:34:05.560 you know,
01:34:05.860 he kind of fits
01:34:06.700 the description.
01:34:08.040 Yes.
01:34:08.260 By the way,
01:34:11.220 you've done
01:34:11.640 these C5 events
01:34:13.220 that you do
01:34:13.820 and folks come
01:34:15.100 from all over the world.
01:34:16.140 Who are some
01:34:16.580 of the most mentionable
01:34:17.460 names that have
01:34:18.520 come through politicians,
01:34:20.000 wealthy folks,
01:34:21.400 celebrities,
01:34:22.120 you know,
01:34:22.640 that you can mention
01:34:23.500 their names?
01:34:24.160 Anybody that comes
01:34:24.980 to those events
01:34:25.480 with you?
01:34:26.200 Well,
01:34:26.800 I wouldn't want
01:34:27.620 to name folks
01:34:28.540 like that.
01:34:29.360 I mentioned
01:34:29.900 David Marconi
01:34:30.780 who's a renowned
01:34:31.580 writer.
01:34:33.680 You know,
01:34:34.160 the actor
01:34:37.180 that played
01:34:37.720 in Babe,
01:34:39.260 Jamie Cromwell,
01:34:40.540 he's been out
01:34:41.540 with us
01:34:41.900 and we had
01:34:42.280 a massive object
01:34:43.260 come over us
01:34:43.960 near Palm Springs
01:34:44.940 in California.
01:34:46.940 He actually
01:34:47.500 sort of played me
01:34:48.800 in the Star Trek
01:34:49.600 movie First Contact.
01:34:51.340 It's a little
01:34:51.720 funny story.
01:34:52.860 He was going
01:34:53.360 to do the opening
01:34:54.340 for that Star Trek
01:34:55.460 movie First Contact
01:34:56.600 where the human
01:34:57.260 first made contact
01:34:58.440 and he was sort
01:34:59.800 of used what
01:35:00.620 I had been doing
01:35:01.340 as an inspiration
01:35:02.140 for his role
01:35:02.940 and at the premiere
01:35:05.360 in London,
01:35:06.220 Prince Charles
01:35:07.300 was going
01:35:07.800 to come
01:35:08.240 and had
01:35:09.360 communicated
01:35:09.800 that he wanted
01:35:10.480 to get
01:35:10.820 the briefing
01:35:11.360 document I had
01:35:12.680 put together
01:35:13.160 for the president
01:35:14.320 so I gave it
01:35:15.480 to Jamie Cromwell
01:35:16.640 who in the
01:35:17.760 reception line
01:35:18.680 gave it to
01:35:19.560 Prince Charles
01:35:20.280 and I got a
01:35:20.900 lovely note
01:35:21.440 back from
01:35:21.960 Prince Charles
01:35:22.980 about it.
01:35:24.600 Prince Charles
01:35:25.360 and Prince Philip
01:35:25.920 were very interested
01:35:26.680 in all this.
01:35:28.200 Yeah,
01:35:28.340 there's some
01:35:28.680 big names.
01:35:29.680 I mean,
01:35:29.900 I have a list
01:35:30.960 here of
01:35:31.320 Churchill,
01:35:33.180 obviously Jimmy
01:35:34.660 Carter,
01:35:35.980 you know,
01:35:36.820 you got some
01:35:37.280 of the people
01:35:37.640 in Hollywood,
01:35:38.240 Katy Perry,
01:35:38.720 Megan Fox,
01:35:39.340 Shatner,
01:35:40.580 Stephen Hawking,
01:35:41.320 Ridley Scott,
01:35:42.560 there's a lot,
01:35:43.560 Bill Nye,
01:35:44.060 a lot of folks
01:35:44.680 that are
01:35:45.680 believers of it
01:35:47.460 so it's not like
01:35:48.380 it's a small
01:35:48.820 community here.
01:35:50.000 By the way,
01:35:50.520 for somebody
01:35:50.920 that's a doctor,
01:35:51.660 what are your
01:35:52.700 thoughts on vaccines?
01:35:53.700 Any opinions
01:35:54.380 on vaccines
01:35:54.940 yourself or no?
01:35:56.500 Well,
01:35:57.220 I think that
01:35:57.860 most people
01:35:58.840 have,
01:36:00.900 there have been
01:36:01.560 vaccines that have
01:36:02.220 problems,
01:36:02.820 I think a lot of
01:36:03.500 those have been
01:36:03.880 resolved,
01:36:04.520 I think it's
01:36:04.900 very dangerous
01:36:05.600 for our children
01:36:06.240 not to get
01:36:07.020 vaccinated for
01:36:08.160 the worst
01:36:08.760 communicable diseases
01:36:10.400 that are out
01:36:11.020 there.
01:36:11.860 I came up
01:36:12.640 in an era
01:36:13.160 when we
01:36:14.420 didn't have
01:36:14.840 a measles
01:36:15.280 vaccine,
01:36:16.180 we didn't
01:36:16.580 have a lot
01:36:17.960 of the ones
01:36:18.280 we take for
01:36:18.740 granted now,
01:36:19.400 there were a
01:36:19.780 lot of children
01:36:20.300 who were killed
01:36:21.440 and harmed.
01:36:22.700 I had the
01:36:23.280 worst case of
01:36:24.100 measles and
01:36:24.720 chickenpox
01:36:25.380 our pediatrician
01:36:26.720 had ever seen.
01:36:28.200 Yourself?
01:36:29.080 Myself,
01:36:29.620 yeah,
01:36:29.840 almost died.
01:36:31.160 So,
01:36:31.600 you know,
01:36:32.340 these are
01:36:33.320 fearsome
01:36:34.040 diseases.
01:36:36.180 So,
01:36:36.900 what happens
01:36:38.060 with this
01:36:38.540 is that
01:36:38.980 there are
01:36:39.740 some bad
01:36:40.140 outcomes
01:36:40.700 and,
01:36:41.960 but then
01:36:42.460 the whole
01:36:43.680 baby gets
01:36:44.660 thrown out
01:36:44.980 with the
01:36:45.180 bathwater.
01:36:46.120 And I think
01:36:46.500 we need to
01:36:46.800 be careful.
01:36:47.460 But we do
01:36:47.900 need transparency
01:36:48.880 about which
01:36:50.560 vaccines have
01:36:51.380 had what
01:36:51.820 side effects
01:36:52.480 and a lot
01:36:53.560 of times
01:36:53.940 big profit
01:36:55.220 centered
01:36:55.600 pharmaceutical
01:36:56.160 companies
01:36:56.840 will minimize
01:36:58.520 that.
01:36:59.120 And we
01:36:59.300 know the
01:36:59.600 FDA is
01:37:00.340 utterly
01:37:00.680 incompetent
01:37:01.620 to look
01:37:02.820 out after
01:37:03.280 these things,
01:37:03.980 frankly.
01:37:05.120 So,
01:37:05.500 and so
01:37:06.540 is the
01:37:06.840 CDC.
01:37:07.500 I mean,
01:37:07.660 look how
01:37:07.940 they've
01:37:08.160 managed
01:37:08.420 this crisis.
01:37:09.280 I mean,
01:37:09.460 I've never
01:37:09.700 seen such
01:37:10.180 incompetence.
01:37:11.740 But,
01:37:12.500 ouch,
01:37:13.740 but,
01:37:14.100 I mean,
01:37:14.760 you asked
01:37:15.100 my opinion,
01:37:15.820 I'm not
01:37:16.260 going to
01:37:16.520 I thought
01:37:17.800 I was
01:37:18.020 great.
01:37:18.580 And by
01:37:18.840 the way,
01:37:19.000 if they
01:37:19.180 come up
01:37:19.440 with a
01:37:19.660 coronavirus
01:37:19.980 vaccine,
01:37:20.620 would you
01:37:20.860 take it
01:37:21.160 yourself?
01:37:21.520 Actually,
01:37:23.480 I think
01:37:23.760 in January
01:37:24.340 I actually
01:37:24.920 had COVID-19.
01:37:26.360 I'm waiting
01:37:26.820 to see if I
01:37:27.280 can get an
01:37:27.580 antibody test,
01:37:28.440 but I had
01:37:28.900 every symptom
01:37:29.880 you would
01:37:30.200 expect.
01:37:31.500 And so,
01:37:32.420 I predict
01:37:33.220 that I have
01:37:33.680 a pretty
01:37:33.940 high titer.
01:37:34.980 You're June
01:37:35.420 28,
01:37:35.920 1955,
01:37:36.820 right?
01:37:37.240 Right.
01:37:37.900 Yeah,
01:37:38.200 I'll be 65
01:37:38.920 in June.
01:37:39.820 So,
01:37:40.140 so you're
01:37:40.700 in that age
01:37:41.800 range that
01:37:42.340 they're sometimes
01:37:42.920 concerned about.
01:37:43.720 They say 70
01:37:44.360 plus,
01:37:44.860 but I was
01:37:45.660 just wondering,
01:37:46.140 you don't seem
01:37:46.540 like you were
01:37:46.880 too concerned
01:37:47.340 about it.
01:37:48.520 Well,
01:37:49.100 I mean,
01:37:49.460 I mountain
01:37:49.880 bike 60
01:37:50.600 miles a
01:37:51.120 week,
01:37:51.400 and hike
01:37:51.780 20 miles
01:37:52.340 a week,
01:37:52.780 and bench
01:37:53.320 press 400
01:37:54.020 pounds,
01:37:54.660 and I'm
01:37:54.960 in the gym
01:37:55.560 when it's
01:37:56.040 open all
01:37:56.480 the time.
01:37:57.440 The guys
01:37:58.860 in their
01:37:59.280 20s have
01:37:59.940 a hard time
01:38:00.380 keeping up
01:38:00.880 with me,
01:38:01.200 so I'm
01:38:01.440 not your
01:38:02.220 classic 60
01:38:03.160 something.
01:38:03.660 I'm more
01:38:04.200 like a 40
01:38:04.840 year old
01:38:05.280 that's 60
01:38:05.840 something.
01:38:06.580 I'm impressed.
01:38:07.140 By the way,
01:38:07.520 you're also
01:38:07.820 a good
01:38:08.020 smack talker. 0.91
01:38:08.880 You know,
01:38:09.060 the way you
01:38:09.460 said it,
01:38:09.860 you were
01:38:10.060 like,
01:38:10.400 listen,
01:38:10.840 you know,
01:38:11.160 400 pounds.
01:38:11.760 Did you see
01:38:12.060 how he said
01:38:12.460 it?
01:38:12.640 Like,
01:38:12.820 I bench
01:38:13.160 400 pounds,
01:38:14.340 and I bet
01:38:16.500 not a lot
01:38:16.980 of people
01:38:17.320 want to
01:38:17.900 go against
01:38:19.240 a doctor
01:38:20.100 that's
01:38:20.380 mentioned
01:38:20.620 400 pounds.
01:38:21.860 Speed round.
01:38:22.700 I'll give you
01:38:23.100 a name
01:38:23.440 or a topic.
01:38:24.060 Just give me
01:38:24.420 one word
01:38:24.880 that comes
01:38:25.280 to mind.
01:38:25.680 Bob Lazar.
01:38:26.800 True.
01:38:27.920 Okay.
01:38:29.480 Storm Area 51.
01:38:31.540 Fantasy.
01:38:32.720 X-Files.
01:38:33.780 Fantasy.
01:38:35.060 David Fravor.
01:38:37.000 Honestly,
01:38:37.540 don't know.
01:38:38.300 Okay.
01:38:38.820 Steven Spielberg.
01:38:40.120 Brilliant.
01:38:41.700 Interstellar.
01:38:42.760 Excellent.
01:38:43.700 Frank Tipler.
01:38:45.220 Don't know.
01:38:45.800 Sarah Seeger.
01:38:49.100 I don't know.
01:38:50.300 Don't know.
01:38:51.040 Dr. Harold
01:38:51.840 Podhoff.
01:38:53.460 Oh,
01:38:53.660 Puthoff.
01:38:54.280 Puthoff.
01:38:56.260 Intelligence
01:38:56.860 operative.
01:38:58.360 Travis Walton.
01:39:01.220 Misrepresented
01:39:01.740 by Hollywood.
01:39:03.740 He had a real
01:39:04.640 experience,
01:39:05.160 but it was
01:39:05.380 misrepresented
01:39:05.940 by Hollywood.
01:39:07.220 Helen Sharma.
01:39:09.580 Don't know.
01:39:10.720 Don't know.
01:39:11.300 Trump.
01:39:13.080 Aspirational.
01:39:14.680 Aspirational.
01:39:15.200 Hillary Clinton.
01:39:16.900 Passed.
01:39:18.240 Passed.
01:39:18.780 Okay.
01:39:19.000 Fauci.
01:39:20.360 Misguided.
01:39:21.600 CDC.
01:39:23.000 Incompetent.
01:39:24.020 You've been amazing.
01:39:25.400 This has been an
01:39:26.020 incredible conversation.
01:39:27.560 Thank you.
01:39:27.900 And again,
01:39:28.400 Dr. Greer,
01:39:29.660 I appreciate you for
01:39:30.460 coming out and spending
01:39:31.180 a couple hours with us.
01:39:32.740 Thank you.
01:39:33.080 For having spent the last
01:39:35.340 two hours with you.
01:39:36.080 Once again,
01:39:36.480 thank you for being a guest
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