Valuetainment - September 22, 2025


＂Erika Kirk Was INCREDIBLE＂ - Charlie Kirk's Widow FORGIVES His Assassin In Tearful Memorial Moment


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Pastor Frank Currie and his team had one of the most incredible revivals I've ever been a part of, and I'm here to talk about it. Listen in as Pastor Frank talks about what it was like to be there, and why it was the most amazing experience of his life.

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00:00:00.000 Let's talk about yesterday's event and how magical it was.
00:00:03.380 By the way, I've been to a lot of church revivals in my lifetime.
00:00:06.960 I've been to many.
00:00:08.540 And Tom, how do you define a revival?
00:00:10.660 They bring a lot of speakers.
00:00:11.980 Messages are being given.
00:00:13.040 Maybe you're recommitting, right?
00:00:14.820 You're making new decisions.
00:00:16.260 What would you say revival is?
00:00:17.640 A revival is where churches used to take a couple days out and say,
00:00:21.800 hey, we're going to invite some other pastors here,
00:00:23.740 and we're also going to talk about things that really matter here in the community
00:00:26.940 and specifically why your faith is so important.
00:00:31.200 And it's not just the one-hour sermon with some praise.
00:00:34.220 It's like an eight, ten-hour deal, right?
00:00:36.140 Yes.
00:00:36.660 Sometimes they're all day.
00:00:37.700 Old-fashioned revivals used to be like all day on Saturday
00:00:41.280 and then baptizing people at the end of the day and everything that goes with it.
00:00:45.760 But it was more conversion-focused.
00:00:48.760 So yesterday, this place, Rob, if you just show one of the clips of what the place looked like,
00:00:53.580 this place was jam-packed.
00:00:56.020 Please welcome to the stage, Frank Currie.
00:00:58.260 He crushed it, by the way.
00:00:59.100 It was great.
00:01:00.140 He crushed it.
00:01:00.960 Oh, this guy was just...
00:01:02.180 I believe he was the gentleman that was standing behind Charlie Kirk when he got shot.
00:01:06.680 He was one of the five guys that turned him into the car.
00:01:08.840 So I had the boys over there.
00:01:10.940 While we're there with the whole family, they're sitting down.
00:01:17.140 Vinny's doing his thing.
00:01:18.880 And then all of a sudden, we go to the front.
00:01:21.300 So we're saying hi to a bunch of people.
00:01:22.380 Oh, my God.
00:01:22.940 Guys, if you were there, it was so great seeing everybody.
00:01:26.760 It was so great seeing everybody.
00:01:29.540 Walk in.
00:01:30.720 Emotions high.
00:01:32.060 Matt Sapala puts the camera on my face.
00:01:34.620 I'm not expecting to be recorded at that time.
00:01:37.140 I'm just soaking everything in.
00:01:38.600 And Rob, I don't know if you have this one or not.
00:01:40.620 And he just asked me, what are you thinking about right now?
00:01:43.340 Right?
00:01:44.000 I haven't thought about an answer.
00:01:45.720 He literally is to my right.
00:01:47.240 I'm walking.
00:01:47.940 I'm not trying to talk.
00:01:49.180 I'm just trying to see what's going on.
00:01:50.920 And then all of a sudden, he says, Pat, what's on your mind?
00:01:54.140 I walk in, Rob, if you can share this clip here.
00:01:58.140 I walk in.
00:01:59.600 You're hearing the music.
00:02:01.020 You're hearing everything.
00:02:02.000 This is the greatest revival I've ever been to in my life.
00:02:06.200 And I've been to many.
00:02:07.900 It is the greatest revival I've been to in my life.
00:02:10.420 Watch this one here, Rob.
00:02:11.380 Go ahead and play.
00:02:11.880 This is one kid, one of the United America, one kid, 31 years old, I have to take him away. 0.99
00:02:22.780 Millions of people will be inspired by this one guy named Charlie Cook.
00:02:26.660 We're going to celebrate his life today.
00:02:29.380 Let me tell you, emotions.
00:02:33.340 Emotions high.
00:02:34.040 We go, we sit.
00:02:34.820 And then all of a sudden, Mateo says, hey, you know, we all had floor seats.
00:02:38.860 We just showed up late because traffic was high.
00:02:40.380 By the way, we're going through security, secret service.
00:02:42.840 Guy opens up the door.
00:02:45.220 He says, PBD, we're trying to get in.
00:02:47.500 I said, where are you from?
00:02:48.160 He says, Toronto.
00:02:49.140 I said, wait.
00:02:49.680 Oh, yeah.
00:02:50.200 You came in from Toronto?
00:02:51.540 He said, we did, him and his wife.
00:02:52.660 Good-looking couple.
00:02:54.060 I said, so what happened?
00:02:55.120 They send us out.
00:02:55.960 I said, what do you mean they send us out?
00:02:57.340 There is no room in the stadium.
00:02:58.920 You're kidding me.
00:02:59.880 No.
00:03:00.480 What do you mean there is no room?
00:03:01.440 There is no room in the stadium.
00:03:02.880 How about the overflow room?
00:03:03.940 The overflow room is packed.
00:03:05.440 What are you talking about?
00:03:07.140 He's saying, can we get in with you?
00:03:08.360 I said, I can't get you right now.
00:03:09.280 I'm right with secret service trying to get through.
00:03:11.380 But it was such an incredible place to be.
00:03:14.540 And then all of a sudden, we get in.
00:03:16.400 Mateo takes us.
00:03:17.180 He says, hey, Elon Musk is not going to be there.
00:03:19.900 His seats are available because we were just going to be two-on-two.
00:03:22.000 And I wanted the boys to sit together.
00:03:23.740 We go and we sit down.
00:03:25.060 It's me, Vinny, Tico, and Dylan.
00:03:27.840 And then literally five minutes later, they say, well, Elon is here.
00:03:30.960 He's right there.
00:03:31.620 Yeah.
00:03:31.780 So Elon walks up.
00:03:33.300 Vinny gets up.
00:03:34.380 Elon comes and sits right next to Tico.
00:03:36.700 That was my seat.
00:03:37.340 And you see the hand up?
00:03:39.440 You see the left hand up?
00:03:40.520 Someone's hand up?
00:03:41.160 That's Dilly. 0.99
00:03:41.500 That's Dylan's hand.
00:03:43.580 So you can't see Dilly.
00:03:45.400 You can see Dylan's hand.
00:03:46.600 But you can see Tico's profile.
00:03:48.940 And it was just a great event.
00:03:50.520 It was a great event.
00:03:51.400 But Vinny, for you, what was it like being in the room?
00:03:55.680 Without trying to put fluff or whatever people call it, when you walked into that stadium,
00:04:00.600 you felt the presence of the Holy Spirit.
00:04:04.120 People were singing.
00:04:04.980 Think about it.
00:04:05.780 One of our guys was just 11 days ago assassinated in cold blood in front of the world.
00:04:12.200 And guess what this room was?
00:04:13.700 Nobody was fighting.
00:04:15.160 Nobody was rioting.
00:04:16.500 Nobody was burning down.
00:04:17.860 Nobody was killing cops.
00:04:19.440 Everybody just came together.
00:04:22.220 And it was, by the way, hugging.
00:04:24.400 People were in tears.
00:04:25.760 People were getting emotional.
00:04:26.680 People that were like, I've never, I haven't been to church.
00:04:28.740 But this sparked something.
00:04:31.340 And somebody said something about, they attempted to extinguish his light.
00:04:35.740 Every time you try to extinguish somebody's light like this, like Charlie, it only makes
00:04:40.280 the fire brighter.
00:04:41.720 It makes it more.
00:04:43.140 And I was, and again, Pat, Adam, thank you.
00:04:45.820 Thank you for giving us this opportunity just to be, because you would think people would
00:04:49.560 be furious.
00:04:50.580 People would be angry and upset.
00:04:52.620 Pat, it brought us together.
00:04:54.520 And evil, remember when you said in the green room at the vault, you go, and it was that
00:04:58.360 moment where you're like, we're going to win.
00:05:01.120 There's no way.
00:05:02.140 And this is it, man.
00:05:02.880 This was such a beautiful moment.
00:05:05.320 And I asked that question to you about the other side, because who, if you had to compare
00:05:10.160 anybody from the other side that was at Charlie, who on the other, they don't have nobody.
00:05:14.720 They don't have nobody at Charlie's level.
00:05:15.640 This is it.
00:05:16.380 This is it.
00:05:16.980 Love.
00:05:17.280 They don't have anybody at Charlie's level.
00:05:20.120 Nope.
00:05:20.300 Nobody.
00:05:20.740 Let's go through a couple of the talks that was given.
00:05:22.880 Okay.
00:05:23.000 Let's go through a couple of them.
00:05:24.000 Rob, if you can pull up Don Jr., because Don Jr. broke the ice.
00:05:30.680 And if you guys weren't there, Don gave a phenomenal speech.
00:05:34.340 I texted him afterwards.
00:05:35.900 Phenomenal speech.
00:05:37.180 But Don was the guy that actually made the place a little bit.
00:05:40.840 He brought the temperature down.
00:05:42.200 He got people to laugh by impersonating his dad.
00:05:45.320 Here's Don Jr. impersonating his dad right after his dad is in the arena.
00:05:50.180 He points at him, and then he does this.
00:05:51.700 Go ahead.
00:05:53.440 Social media knows I'm far more likely to crack a joke or get myself in trouble for posting
00:05:59.760 some grossly inappropriate memes than I am to shed a tear.
00:06:03.440 I know this, because I've even gotten the call from that guy a couple of times.
00:06:09.200 You know, Don, Don, you're getting a little aggressive on social media, Don.
00:06:17.400 Relax.
00:06:20.300 Clowning him in front of the world.
00:06:22.660 Look at Dana.
00:06:26.200 He's like, hi, everybody.
00:06:27.440 Excuse me.
00:06:31.060 Dana, White, and Jared.
00:06:32.320 Can you actually picture that call happening?
00:06:35.520 Can you actually picture that call happening?
00:06:37.480 Meaning, his father called and said, listen, tone down that Michelle Obama type of stuff. 0.96
00:06:42.080 Relax with that, right?
00:06:43.220 Can you picture that happening?
00:06:44.240 Yeah, and him going, who are you to talk to me?
00:06:46.880 You're the main guy.
00:06:49.740 It's you.
00:06:50.180 I learned it from you, yeah.
00:06:51.980 But it was such a great moment when that happened, right?
00:06:55.120 When Don said what he said about it.
00:06:57.440 And another one, Rob, if you can pull up.
00:07:00.540 I actually really like Tucker's message.
00:07:05.820 Tucker's message when he gave the message about, Rob, which part, which story is this?
00:07:10.940 Is this the actual story?
00:07:12.980 The opening?
00:07:13.700 The opening?
00:07:14.380 Is this the one?
00:07:15.180 No, this is when the comment that Vinny had mentioned.
00:07:18.740 But the martyr one.
00:07:19.260 But I think the opening.
00:07:20.220 Oh, you know, this is the one where he says, when he dies, he says, I have an idea.
00:07:24.220 Let's just kill him.
00:07:24.880 Is this it?
00:07:25.500 Oh, no, that's the beginning, Rob.
00:07:26.420 That's the opening when he talked about Jesus.
00:07:28.620 That's the one.
00:07:29.180 It is unbelievable how this guy opened it up.
00:07:33.700 And he does the laugh.
00:07:34.460 I think that's the one where he laughs.
00:07:35.320 Oh, it is unbelievable what story, the story Tucker told.
00:07:40.660 Is this the one, Rob?
00:07:42.100 Yes, right there.
00:07:42.880 Yeah, watch this one, folks.
00:07:44.060 Listen to this one.
00:07:45.620 Ultimately, he was a Christian evangelist.
00:07:48.340 And it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever.
00:07:52.400 So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem.
00:07:54.980 And Jesus shows up, and he starts talking about the people in power.
00:08:01.260 And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people.
00:08:06.500 And they hate it.
00:08:07.620 And they just go bonkers.
00:08:09.040 They hate it.
00:08:09.720 And they become obsessed with making him stop.
00:08:11.920 This guy's got to stop talking.
00:08:13.760 We've got to shut this guy up.
00:08:15.180 And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp-lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus,
00:08:21.140 thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us.
00:08:25.720 We must make him stop talking.
00:08:27.700 And there's always one guy with the bright idea, and I can just hear him say,
00:08:32.200 I've got an idea.
00:08:32.760 Why don't we just kill him?
00:08:34.740 That'll shut him up.
00:08:36.700 That'll fix the problem.
00:08:43.460 It doesn't work that way.
00:08:46.420 It doesn't work that way.
00:08:47.840 Everything is inverted.
00:08:49.240 Tom, what did you think about that message?
00:08:51.020 The message that Tucker gave immediately was getting heat.
00:08:53.920 As people were connecting dots and saying, oh, he's bringing up Israel.
00:08:58.800 No, he wasn't.
00:08:59.420 He's bringing up the historical fact that there were Jewish people at that time waiting for the Messiah.
00:09:06.060 And are you the Messiah?
00:09:07.360 Are you him?
00:09:08.320 And he was ministering to people, healing people.
00:09:11.060 But the leaders of the synagogue who were corrupt, they wanted to keep power.
00:09:16.600 And so that's exactly what happened.
00:09:18.480 And we all know the Easter story and the Passover week and what they did.
00:09:22.620 And trumped up charges on him and did it.
00:09:25.740 And so Tucker's talking about that.
00:09:28.220 And he was recounting that biblically very authentically.
00:09:32.320 And then people were giving him heat for that.
00:09:34.220 But his bigger point that he made really touched me because I felt the Holy Spirit was front and center.
00:09:40.400 Faith was foregrounded.
00:09:42.620 But it wasn't like a political rally where you talk about faith, but you spin it.
00:09:48.820 You're really careful how you say it because you don't offend these people over here, over here.
00:09:53.980 And there was no spin of it.
00:09:56.420 And Tucker was just telling the historical story of that's what happened to Christ.
00:10:00.320 And that's how Christ became the savior of the world.
00:10:02.960 And I thought Tucker's recounting of that was fine.
00:10:06.180 And people were saying, oh, you know, he's.
00:10:08.320 What did you think about it?
00:10:09.740 What did you think about his message?
00:10:12.360 I thought Tucker's I thought overall Tucker's message was was well crafted.
00:10:17.580 It wasn't over long.
00:10:18.920 And I thought he was kind of on point to the moment.
00:10:22.300 I kind of felt that way.
00:10:23.660 I thought so as well.
00:10:24.280 I thought he crushed it.
00:10:25.200 I thought I thought he was I thought he was phenomenal.
00:10:27.700 I thought the great thing about a panel of speakers is if everybody hits the different tone and not everybody hits the same.
00:10:37.340 Yes.
00:10:37.440 You know, sometimes everyone's like, you know, when a ruler dies, when a tyrant dies, his rule is over.
00:10:43.720 When a martyr dies, his rule begins.
00:10:46.800 Three people use the same quote, but they were not in the room to hear that.
00:10:50.060 So the first person that said it, the reaction was massive.
00:10:52.820 It was Benny Johnson.
00:10:53.840 The place was lit up.
00:10:55.340 And then afterwards, it was like, well, that's why you need to be there to hear what the audience is saying.
00:10:59.080 So you're not saying the same thing twice.
00:11:00.680 But I thought Tucker's message was spot on.
00:11:03.140 Adam, your thoughts?
00:11:04.060 Well, let me just say Tucker.
00:11:05.080 Then I'll give you my thoughts on the thing.
00:11:06.320 I thought Tucker did a great job.
00:11:08.960 You know, I don't you're saying that people took his message the wrong way.
00:11:12.440 Some people some people immediately are like, oh, he's look.
00:11:16.540 Read the underlying thing.
00:11:17.580 He's going after, you know, Israel. 0.81
00:11:19.500 Well, I don't shut up.
00:11:21.160 Adam, it appeared to be people online that didn't understand that he was properly recounting the story of Christ.
00:11:27.880 And they were saying, oh, he was telling this tale, trying to insinuate, you know, Israel responsibility.
00:11:35.240 I think that's a massive stretch.
00:11:39.300 I think he was talking about the elites and the establishment of the time, whether that was the Pharisees and maybe even the Romans.
00:11:48.220 And the Sadducees. 0.66
00:11:49.020 So because he certainly wasn't talking about the Hebrews or the Israelites, because those were literally his followers.
00:11:56.820 Every single one of them was all Jewish.
00:11:59.080 So anyone that's extrapolating and being like, he's anti-Israel in this speech.
00:12:03.040 Now, he's talking about the elites and the establishment.
00:12:05.020 Yeah, because every single one of the apostles, every single one of his followers were Jewish Hebrews at the time pivoting. 0.67
00:12:11.960 And Erica Kirk crushed the event. 1.00
00:12:16.100 Oh, I mean, absolutely incredible.
00:12:19.020 Sometimes, you know, people are anointed while she's the wife. 0.64
00:12:22.120 It's the natural.
00:12:23.180 She deserves every second of this.
00:12:25.240 Her speech was incredible.
00:12:27.380 The forgiveness.
00:12:28.980 She forgives the killer 11 days after his assassination.
00:12:33.840 I would be filled with rage.
00:12:36.760 Way to calm the flames.
00:12:38.580 Way to calm, if she came up there and gave a message like, we need to attack them. 0.80
00:12:42.700 What do you think would be happening right now?
00:12:44.460 Message of unity.
00:12:45.880 Unbelievable.
00:12:46.720 They say that it was a revival, not a memorial.
00:12:50.220 So full disclosure, this is my first time ever at a revival like this.
00:12:54.020 I've been to church.
00:12:55.500 This wasn't church.
00:12:56.520 This was a revival.
00:12:57.720 This was unity.
00:12:58.700 This was love.
00:13:00.000 This was respect.
00:13:01.820 Because you don't have to be Christian to show respect.
00:13:05.640 You know, at one point, Trump got on stage.
00:13:07.980 He's like, you know, Charlie Kirk's, his Lord and Savior.
00:13:12.260 He didn't say our Lord and Savior.
00:13:14.020 He said Charlie's Lord and Savior.
00:13:15.700 Did he not?
00:13:16.260 Yes.
00:13:16.780 Okay.
00:13:17.140 So I don't know if Trump is the most religious person.
00:13:20.220 I'll let you guys speculate.
00:13:21.420 He's not.
00:13:21.900 But he has enough respect.
00:13:23.660 Yep.
00:13:23.940 And we should all have enough respect to say, this is where we're at at this point.
00:13:27.340 You don't have to be a follower of Jesus Christ to have respect.
00:13:31.080 And certainly, in America, don't be anti-God.
00:13:35.060 Don't be anti-Christianity.
00:13:37.000 Don't be anti-Jesus, Moses, Abraham.
00:13:40.640 That's not going to be a good look.
00:13:42.000 Yeah.
00:13:42.340 So by the way, maybe go to that, Rob.
00:13:44.360 Play the clip of Erica when she went.
00:13:48.300 So imagine it's been 11 days.
00:13:50.360 They have to put an event together.
00:13:52.300 The event goes flawless.
00:13:54.200 I'm sitting there.
00:13:54.760 I'm looking at the name tags.
00:13:56.240 The name tags quality wasn't paper.
00:13:58.700 They had to flip it to create that.
00:14:01.600 The name tag alone, that's going to take you a minute to get.
00:14:04.820 In seven days, they nailed AV.
00:14:07.140 In seven days, they nailed VIPs getting in Secret Service Security.
00:14:11.520 In seven days, they nailed Overflow Room.
00:14:14.020 In seven days, they put their speeches together.
00:14:16.460 In seven days, they got everybody around the world that agreed to come.
00:14:20.220 Who was the person that was their performance on, the singers, the band?
00:14:24.700 Was it Blake?
00:14:25.560 Which was the one that you said?
00:14:26.640 You said the one with the.
00:14:27.620 The one I was listening to on the way.
00:14:28.580 They were wonderful.
00:14:29.860 They were wonderful.
00:14:30.700 Oh, my gosh.
00:14:32.360 I can only imagine.
00:14:33.500 It says here, Brandon Lake, Chris Tomlin, Phil Wickham, Cody Carnes, and Kerry Jobe.
00:14:38.640 Brandon Lake is a phenomenal Christian singer.
00:14:42.140 And Lee Greenwood.
00:14:42.880 Lee Greenwood sang for the president for three minutes before Wally said.
00:14:46.420 So they did all this stuff.
00:14:49.420 And Erica has to sit there to do makeup. 1.00
00:14:52.380 And she has to make her makeup because she knows all the cameras are going to be on her. 0.97
00:14:55.540 And she has to get her speech.
00:14:56.860 And she has to get in front of everybody with a big poster in the stadium. 1.00
00:15:02.700 65,000 people of her husband right in front of her that she has to stare at while she's giving that speech. 1.00
00:15:08.540 The emotions high.
00:15:10.460 And this is one of the moments of her message here.
00:15:12.800 Go ahead, Rob.
00:15:13.260 That young man.
00:15:19.400 That young man.
00:15:21.580 On the cross, our Savior said,
00:15:24.260 Father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
00:15:33.500 That man.
00:15:39.060 That young man.
00:15:43.520 I forgive him.
00:15:53.540 Everybody's done.
00:15:54.500 That was the most powerful part of the entire day.
00:15:59.180 What a strong woman. 0.99
00:16:06.120 What an incredible woman. 1.00
00:16:07.440 That's so not easy to do.
00:16:10.900 And didn't ruin her makeup.
00:16:12.460 Looked great.
00:16:12.920 You know how hard that is to do.
00:16:30.220 You know how hard that is to do.
00:16:32.060 The man that kills your husband,
00:16:34.980 you forgive him 11 days later after it happens.
00:16:39.020 Can you go to power versus force,
00:16:41.620 which is something we keep talking about.
00:16:43.460 But it's so relevant.
00:16:44.600 It's so relevant in these situations.
00:16:46.200 That's right.
00:16:46.700 Every day I'm going,
00:16:47.840 when I wake up,
00:16:48.800 where am I at?
00:16:49.440 Yeah, watch this.
00:16:50.520 Yeah.
00:16:50.860 Where is her love?
00:16:52.740 Where is it?
00:16:53.180 Absolute love.
00:16:54.040 Low level 500.
00:16:55.280 I would go.
00:16:55.660 It's all.
00:16:56.300 It is so hard to get there.
00:16:58.240 Oh, man.
00:16:58.680 You forgive him publicly.
00:17:02.780 That's love.
00:17:04.080 That's reverence.
00:17:05.980 That's very hard to be there.
00:17:08.400 Very hard.
00:17:09.320 It's above reason.
00:17:10.480 Because a person could say,
00:17:12.460 listen, let me reason with you.
00:17:13.660 I understand why you're upset.
00:17:15.240 You just lost your husband in front of everybody.
00:17:17.880 No.
00:17:18.560 It's faith.
00:17:19.780 It's love.
00:17:20.600 And I respect it.
00:17:21.380 It's not easy.
00:17:22.140 The average person cannot do it.
00:17:23.360 Because even the other day when,
00:17:24.960 what's his name, was here,
00:17:25.840 Eric was here.
00:17:26.480 He says, I'm angry.
00:17:27.580 I'm angry.
00:17:28.260 I'm angry.
00:17:28.880 Right?
00:17:29.120 I'm angry.
00:17:29.620 I totally get it.
00:17:31.460 The person that was hit by this more than anybody else
00:17:34.760 is given the example of love.
00:17:36.400 What do you think the rest of the world should be doing?
00:17:38.400 I thought it was a great moment of what she did
00:17:40.080 in the entire event.
00:17:41.500 And I thought that was her way 0.94
00:17:43.300 of almost letting everybody, you know,
00:17:49.640 say, hey, if I'm coming from this place,
00:17:52.340 guys, you know,
00:17:53.900 let's not increase the temperature
00:17:56.460 more than what it is right now.
00:17:57.960 I was very impressed by it.
00:17:59.040 Even in Charlie's death,
00:18:02.160 we're seeing the legacy of his decision-making.
00:18:04.940 What kind of decision-making do you think it took
00:18:07.820 for him to say, that's my wife?
00:18:10.000 If I'm gone, she could carry the torch.
00:18:12.780 We're just starting to learn about Erica Kirk,
00:18:14.860 the new CEO of Turning Point.
00:18:16.660 But for what we're seeing about her in the last 11 days,
00:18:20.320 wow, what a great decision Charlie made.
00:18:23.040 A lot of people are acting in anger or desire
00:18:25.880 at this point for her to show this outpouring of love
00:18:28.420 for the person that just killed her husband
00:18:30.660 is setting the tone for the rest of the country.
00:18:32.900 God bless.
00:18:33.260 You know who I, Pat, like on the opposite side,
00:18:37.300 but Stephen Miller,
00:18:38.460 who has been on a, just a mission,
00:18:42.020 when he said,
00:18:43.160 those trying to ferment hatred against us,
00:18:45.420 what do you have?
00:18:46.160 You have nothing.
00:18:47.200 You are nothing.
00:18:48.380 You are wickedness.
00:18:49.260 He's calling out, he's calling out evil.
00:18:51.560 He's like, you are jealousy.
00:18:52.760 You are envy.
00:18:53.680 You are hatred.
00:18:54.400 You are nothing.
00:18:55.120 You can build nothing.
00:18:55.960 You can produce nothing.
00:18:57.420 You cannot defeat us.
00:18:58.700 You cannot slow us down.
00:19:00.000 You cannot stop us.
00:19:00.840 You cannot deter.
00:19:01.480 We will carry Charlie and Erica in our hearts
00:19:03.520 every single day and fight that much harder.
00:19:06.420 He goes, you have no idea how determined
00:19:07.860 we will be to save the civilization.
00:19:10.040 Outside of Erica, who was your favorite speaker?
00:19:11.720 Outside of Erica?
00:19:12.820 Yeah, Erica was number one.
00:19:16.560 Miller?
00:19:17.160 I think Tucker.
00:19:18.980 Tucker, because he opened with Christ
00:19:20.560 and he ended with Christ.
00:19:21.960 And I do love, I do love,
00:19:23.900 I would put Stephen Miller, Pat,
00:19:25.260 because at the end of the day,
00:19:26.320 he's not saying kill,
00:19:27.660 and he was talking to evil
00:19:29.660 and evil's face and going,
00:19:31.500 if you think, by the way,
00:19:32.800 if you think we're going to stop,
00:19:34.860 you're crazy. 0.94
00:19:35.940 And I love that he called out back
00:19:37.200 because think about the other side.
00:19:38.740 They were still on TV.
00:19:40.360 They were still out there.
00:19:41.560 Again, I have a bunch of clips,
00:19:42.920 all of them saying Hitler, fascists,
00:19:45.920 hate, Jasmine Crockett,
00:19:47.540 all these people, Steve Bunnell.
00:19:49.140 It's like, you're not going to stop.
00:19:51.280 We're not going to stop.
00:19:52.560 We have to keep going.
00:19:53.580 It had to be Erica.
00:19:56.660 And there were some people on social media
00:19:58.500 that didn't understand what she meant
00:19:59.720 by forgiveness.
00:20:00.740 She's not giving him a pardon.
00:20:02.160 She's saying,
00:20:02.800 in my heart,
00:20:05.380 I have to forgive
00:20:09.060 so I'm not the one
00:20:10.240 that's eternally bitter.
00:20:11.960 But the Bible will tell you
00:20:13.520 that in your forgiveness,
00:20:15.960 you know,
00:20:16.380 there are earthly consequences.
00:20:17.980 There are consequences.
00:20:19.240 And the consequences
00:20:20.020 is this young man
00:20:21.240 is going to stand trial.
00:20:22.660 And whatever happens there
00:20:24.540 is going to happen there.
00:20:25.940 And so Erica was my number one.
00:20:28.080 Number two was Turek,
00:20:30.420 the security
00:20:31.840 and the associate of Charlie
00:20:35.160 who was in the SUV with him
00:20:37.320 when they put him in there.
00:20:40.640 And he talked about how
00:20:42.260 Charlie's eyes were still open.
00:20:44.940 And he says he was looking at me,
00:20:46.460 but he wasn't
00:20:47.000 because he was gone.
00:20:47.580 They're trying to administer,
00:20:49.600 you know,
00:20:50.060 now we know.
00:20:51.020 They're trying to administer
00:20:51.900 first aid
00:20:54.280 and there was no hope
00:20:56.460 in getting to the hospital.
00:20:58.880 Third was Tucker
00:20:59.920 and then was Susie Wells.
00:21:03.400 Those are mine.
00:21:04.680 Erica, Turek, Tucker, Susie.
00:21:07.160 I thought Frank Turek
00:21:08.420 was incredible.
00:21:09.140 I shook his hand afterwards.
00:21:11.360 You're asking who you thought
00:21:12.700 the best speaker was
00:21:13.620 after Erica Kirk.
00:21:14.860 Who resonated the most with you?
00:21:15.560 I think we're all in agreement
00:21:16.360 that Erica Kirk crushed it.
00:21:17.580 For me,
00:21:19.300 it was number one
00:21:19.980 and number two
00:21:20.420 after Erica was
00:21:21.900 Don Jr.
00:21:23.840 and Trump himself
00:21:25.160 because of two reasons.
00:21:28.760 Trump shut down the show.
00:21:30.440 I think humbly,
00:21:32.060 Mr. President,
00:21:33.200 Erica should have gone last, 0.92
00:21:34.540 my opinion.
00:21:35.540 But what Don Jr. did
00:21:36.840 was a message of,
00:21:39.720 I know I'm usually angry.
00:21:41.560 I know I'm usually sarcastic,
00:21:42.580 sarcastic,
00:21:43.440 but let me actually lighten
00:21:44.720 the mood for a second.
00:21:45.580 Let me give a little brevity
00:21:46.400 to this.
00:21:47.180 And I thought he did
00:21:47.880 with his impression.
00:21:49.040 He also,
00:21:49.820 also,
00:21:50.220 and this is the biggest message here,
00:21:52.160 showed a little bit,
00:21:53.480 a little bit of being a synergist.
00:21:55.180 We know Trump is not a synergist.
00:21:56.700 He literally said,
00:21:57.680 I hate my enemies.
00:21:59.260 Charlie,
00:21:59.840 you did it.
00:22:00.900 Charlie loved
00:22:01.580 his perceived enemies.
00:22:03.520 Don Jr.,
00:22:04.260 at one point,
00:22:05.060 I was talking with Matt Cipolla,
00:22:06.440 he showed a little bit
00:22:07.500 signs of being a synergist.
00:22:08.600 I don't know if we're there.
00:22:09.680 Stephen Miller,
00:22:10.660 not a synergist.
00:22:11.980 No.
00:22:12.120 So,
00:22:12.500 I think we need a lot more unity
00:22:13.840 in this country.
00:22:14.760 What I was most upset about,
00:22:16.200 you tell me,
00:22:16.880 guys,
00:22:17.100 I could be wrong.
00:22:18.260 I didn't see one Democrat politician there.
00:22:20.420 Not one.
00:22:21.440 Not one.
00:22:23.020 You're telling me,
00:22:24.060 as a brand,
00:22:25.780 as an establishment,
00:22:27.300 you're half the country.
00:22:28.900 You see the other half of the country
00:22:30.660 distraught,
00:22:32.660 angry,
00:22:33.200 sad,
00:22:33.540 just filled with rage,
00:22:35.220 love,
00:22:35.700 affection.
00:22:36.620 None of you show up,
00:22:37.720 bro?
00:22:38.140 Not one?
00:22:39.500 Imagine the power
00:22:40.400 if AOC shows up.
00:22:42.260 Imagine.
00:22:42.840 Adam,
00:22:43.100 they would never.
00:22:43.440 But we're at such a place
00:22:44.360 in our country
00:22:45.000 where you can't even show up.
00:22:46.520 Adam,
00:22:46.880 that to me is what we're lacking.
00:22:48.380 Adam,
00:22:48.660 these are the same people
00:22:49.520 that couldn't stand up
00:22:50.700 during Trump's
00:22:51.420 State of the Union
00:22:52.840 when a black kid
00:22:54.240 that has cancer
00:22:55.120 that wants to be a secret,
00:22:56.160 they couldn't stand up
00:22:57.920 and applaud him.
00:22:58.980 You think they're going to fly
00:23:00.080 to Arizona on faith
00:23:01.780 and just walk around
00:23:02.660 and hope,
00:23:03.040 no.
00:23:03.520 They kind of stood up
00:23:04.880 during the week
00:23:05.400 and made their opinions known
00:23:06.560 and not all of those were good.
00:23:07.840 But there is one...
00:23:09.840 Go ahead.
00:23:10.720 Van Jones.
00:23:11.460 There is one Van Jones.
00:23:12.580 I'm going to come to Van Jones.
00:23:13.460 He's not a politician.
00:23:14.460 I'm going to do this.
00:23:15.280 So,
00:23:15.640 can you do me a favor?
00:23:16.720 Play the clip of what
00:23:17.740 Adam said about Trump,
00:23:19.800 you know,
00:23:20.300 where he says,
00:23:21.120 you guys like it,
00:23:21.880 I don't like it,
00:23:22.460 that's not me,
00:23:23.140 that's not me,
00:23:23.580 you just had it up,
00:23:24.320 Rob,
00:23:24.480 I think.
00:23:24.820 That's the one.
00:23:25.280 Go ahead.
00:23:25.540 He wanted
00:23:27.500 the best for them.
00:23:30.220 That's where I disagreed
00:23:31.180 with Charlie.
00:23:32.680 I hate my opponent
00:23:34.200 and I don't want
00:23:36.320 the best for them.
00:23:37.200 I'm sorry.
00:23:38.000 I am sorry, Erica.
00:23:40.300 But now Erica
00:23:41.360 can talk to me
00:23:42.320 and the whole group
00:23:43.020 and maybe they can
00:23:43.860 convince me
00:23:44.480 that that's not right,
00:23:45.440 but I can't stand
00:23:46.460 my opponent.
00:23:47.560 I like that comment.
00:23:48.880 I'll talk to her.
00:23:49.180 Maybe she can convince me.
00:23:50.600 I'm willing to.
00:23:51.260 Charlie's angry.
00:23:52.160 Looking down,
00:23:52.640 he's angry at me now.
00:23:53.720 He wasn't interested
00:23:56.120 in demonizing anyone.
00:23:57.460 He was interested in...
00:23:58.800 Yeah, I mean,
00:23:59.340 I'll tell you
00:24:00.460 a couple things for me
00:24:01.200 on what I liked.
00:24:02.120 Okay.
00:24:02.620 I took notes
00:24:03.680 when they were talking
00:24:04.660 and here's what I got.
00:24:07.160 I like what Frank Turk said.
00:24:08.940 He said,
00:24:09.440 make heaven crowded.
00:24:11.540 Okay.
00:24:12.000 Our job is to make
00:24:13.060 heaven crowded.
00:24:13.900 Great message.
00:24:14.680 And I talked to him afterwards.
00:24:16.240 He said,
00:24:16.520 it was great seeing
00:24:17.080 your sons here.
00:24:17.700 I said,
00:24:18.040 I appreciate it,
00:24:18.700 but it was him
00:24:19.820 giving that message.
00:24:21.600 The Sergio Gore,
00:24:23.480 I don't know who he is.
00:24:25.160 Who is Sergio Gore?
00:24:26.460 I want to give you credit
00:24:27.320 because...
00:24:27.760 He's very much into
00:24:27.820 the Trump orbit.
00:24:29.120 You can find his exact title.
00:24:30.640 What does he do?
00:24:31.480 He said something...
00:24:32.300 He's an ambassador
00:24:32.340 director of the White House
00:24:33.640 Presidential Personnel Office.
00:24:35.840 So he's somebody.
00:24:37.160 And by the way,
00:24:37.820 it doesn't mean anything.
00:24:38.640 I don't know who he is.
00:24:39.760 I don't want to...
00:24:40.380 He's also the ambassador
00:24:41.700 to India.
00:24:42.500 Okay, fantastic.
00:24:43.460 You know what he said,
00:24:44.760 which was very interesting
00:24:45.840 because I think
00:24:46.820 that that applies
00:24:47.600 to every business,
00:24:48.360 but specifically he said,
00:24:49.720 he said,
00:24:50.160 the world of politics
00:24:51.140 is filled with
00:24:51.920 transactional people.
00:24:53.160 And he was making a point
00:24:55.860 that Charlie wasn't
00:24:56.980 a transactional person,
00:24:58.480 which means they come in,
00:24:59.980 they get what they want next.
00:25:01.160 They come in, 0.84
00:25:01.680 they get what they want next.
00:25:02.800 They come in, 0.84
00:25:03.460 they get what they want next.
00:25:04.640 You ever seen the movie Vice
00:25:06.300 where there is a scene
00:25:08.340 where Carol,
00:25:10.220 Steve Carell,
00:25:11.280 whatever it was.
00:25:11.880 Steve Carell.
00:25:12.280 Yeah, Steve Carell.
00:25:12.640 He's the one where he says
00:25:13.740 to Christian Bale
00:25:15.600 who's playing...
00:25:16.600 Dick Cheney, I believe.
00:25:17.260 Dick Cheney.
00:25:17.740 Yes.
00:25:18.220 And he says,
00:25:19.220 man,
00:25:19.920 is it possible
00:25:20.860 that you're even more evil
00:25:22.500 than you were
00:25:23.660 when I first met you?
00:25:24.640 True.
00:25:25.240 This is when
00:25:25.880 Dick Cheney is firing him.
00:25:28.600 Yeah.
00:25:29.600 Can it even be possible?
00:25:31.260 This scene,
00:25:31.720 I don't know if you know this scene.
00:25:32.600 I don't know.
00:25:33.020 Have you seen this movie?
00:25:33.800 Remember I told you
00:25:34.280 I was going to know what to watch?
00:25:34.560 I have to watch this with you.
00:25:36.020 Okay, Vice?
00:25:36.460 There's a scene,
00:25:37.180 do you know what scene
00:25:37.580 I'm talking about?
00:25:38.120 It's kind of an accurate movie,
00:25:39.440 but I know the scene.
00:25:40.700 Yeah, he says,
00:25:41.620 can you get any more evil
00:25:43.180 than you used to be?
00:25:44.220 I cannot believe that.
00:25:45.520 So, in politics,
00:25:47.140 transactional,
00:25:47.820 I got what I wanted from you,
00:25:49.000 boom, next.
00:25:49.380 I got what I wanted from you, next.
00:25:50.640 So, I like that point being made,
00:25:52.560 the fact that Charlie wasn't,
00:25:53.680 he was a guy that was a builder.
00:25:55.180 Trump called him a master builder.
00:25:57.000 Okay?
00:25:57.480 Master builder.
00:25:59.700 Tucker's message was on fire.
00:26:02.400 Hexed said,
00:26:03.040 Charlie had big plans,
00:26:05.260 but God had even bigger plans.
00:26:07.160 I actually like Hexed's message.
00:26:09.780 He came and he delivered,
00:26:10.720 he left,
00:26:11.200 gave a salute at the end.
00:26:12.520 He is.
00:26:12.900 Then Hexed told a story
00:26:16.300 about what his pastor told him.
00:26:17.840 He said,
00:26:18.320 the devil overplayed his hand.
00:26:21.460 He started,
00:26:22.020 he said,
00:26:22.280 Charlie started Turning Point USA,
00:26:24.200 but he said,
00:26:25.320 this event will end up
00:26:26.560 becoming the turning point of USA.
00:26:28.800 Wow.
00:26:29.380 Did you understand that messaging?
00:26:31.040 Like,
00:26:31.460 pastor's telling him that,
00:26:32.880 and Hexed's sharing that
00:26:33.840 with the audience.
00:26:35.100 I texted Bobby,
00:26:36.160 and I said to Bobby,
00:26:37.540 I said,
00:26:37.700 listen,
00:26:37.960 that one message,
00:26:39.380 it was,
00:26:39.920 you could tell,
00:26:40.640 and Bobby was having a hard time.
00:26:42.320 Some was going on with Bobby.
00:26:43.520 I think this could have been
00:26:44.180 an emotional moment from,
00:26:45.120 probably more than anybody else,
00:26:46.140 because there's only one person
00:26:47.620 in that room
00:26:48.120 that has the experience
00:26:48.860 of your relatives being a Sansa.
00:26:50.080 That's right.
00:26:50.780 It's him.
00:26:51.480 So that's why I told him,
00:26:52.500 I said,
00:26:52.640 listen,
00:26:52.900 man,
00:26:53.040 I mean,
00:26:53.380 you know,
00:26:53.740 this has got to be,
00:26:54.380 and he sends me,
00:26:55.320 so I said,
00:26:56.740 he says,
00:26:57.540 one day I go to my mom,
00:26:58.920 and I ask,
00:26:59.460 do you have this rap?
00:27:00.220 He says,
00:27:00.360 one day I go to my mom.
00:27:01.360 Is this it?
00:27:02.240 The longer version is right here.
00:27:04.860 It is so amazing when he says,
00:27:06.620 I go to my mom,
00:27:07.300 and I ask her about,
00:27:08.340 mom,
00:27:09.560 what do you do with the whole,
00:27:11.700 the pain of losing someone?
00:27:14.220 What do you do with that?
00:27:14.800 After his brother,
00:27:15.280 David,
00:27:15.820 another son of.
00:27:17.440 What do you do with that?
00:27:18.420 What do you do when you have that whole,
00:27:20.860 how do you deal with it?
00:27:22.620 And this is what he was told.
00:27:24.040 Go ahead,
00:27:24.340 Rob.
00:27:24.480 When my brother David died,
00:27:34.080 I had a conversation with my mother,
00:27:36.980 who had been through more than her share of loss and tragedy.
00:27:41.720 And I said,
00:27:42.520 I asked her,
00:27:43.280 I said,
00:27:43.680 does the hole they leave in you when they die,
00:27:46.540 does it ever get any smaller?
00:27:48.500 And she said,
00:27:50.060 no,
00:27:50.380 it never gets any smaller.
00:27:51.680 But our job is to build ourselves bigger around the hole.
00:27:57.000 We do that.
00:28:04.160 We do that by taking the best virtues and character traits of the person that we lost
00:28:09.760 and using discipline and restraint and practice,
00:28:14.660 integrating those character traits into our own character.
00:28:18.020 And in doing that,
00:28:20.460 we make ourselves larger and the hole gets proportionally smaller.
00:28:25.780 And we also give that person a kind of immortality because they are now living on,
00:28:31.460 the best parts of them are now living on us.
00:28:35.240 Holy moly.
00:28:36.280 Can you imagine how powerful that is,
00:28:38.340 what he's talking about?
00:28:39.520 But,
00:28:39.760 you know,
00:28:40.300 before we,
00:28:40.820 before we go to the other side,
00:28:42.740 what the other side was saying about this,
00:28:44.140 I,
00:28:46.840 while we're sitting there yesterday,
00:28:48.240 I remember I interviewed Charlie in 2017,
00:28:52.860 eight years ago when he was,
00:28:55.120 because at Matt's Apollo's in the car,
00:28:56.600 he's like,
00:28:57.220 I remember he used to always talk about Charlie Kirk,
00:28:59.200 pay attention to this guy.
00:29:00.080 He's going to be a president.
00:29:00.780 So you were saying that seven,
00:29:01.780 eight years ago.
00:29:02.660 I'm like,
00:29:03.160 who is this Charlie Kirk guy?
00:29:04.440 I don't know who this Charlie Kirk guy is.
00:29:06.240 He says,
00:29:06.780 and then I finally,
00:29:08.180 the more and more and more I followed,
00:29:09.680 I realized how big he was,
00:29:11.720 how big of a deal he was becoming.
00:29:13.060 And then obviously at this point,
00:29:14.360 Charlie being where he's at.
00:29:15.620 And I'm like,
00:29:16.300 wait a minute.
00:29:17.000 Oh,
00:29:17.140 right there.
00:29:17.620 When is the interview rock?
00:29:18.620 June 21st of 2017.
00:29:20.780 That's when I uploaded it.
00:29:21.680 Can you,
00:29:22.040 can you pull up?
00:29:22.860 So pull,
00:29:24.380 pull up.
00:29:26.000 That's six months after Trump took office.
00:29:28.660 Do you have the one,
00:29:29.700 which is the whole interview?
00:29:31.120 What,
00:29:31.400 which channel are you on?
00:29:32.640 VT Maine.
00:29:34.640 Yeah.
00:29:35.040 I mean,
00:29:35.300 that's the interview.
00:29:36.560 I found it somewhere.
00:29:37.920 Apparently you don't have it there.
00:29:39.000 I think I found it somewhere here,
00:29:40.540 Rob.
00:29:41.080 Look at how young he is.
00:29:42.300 Can we see like how,
00:29:43.060 how young you show a clip?
00:29:44.640 Oh man,
00:29:44.940 that conversation was,
00:29:45.560 that conversation was,
00:29:47.700 but I want you to see the opening.
00:29:49.560 And I don't think that's the opening.
00:29:51.020 No,
00:29:51.360 it's not.
00:29:53.440 No,
00:29:53.880 it's not.
00:29:54.420 Can we just see what he looks like?
00:29:55.560 Look at how young.
00:29:57.000 Yeah.
00:29:57.200 That's the first time Charlie and I spoke.
00:29:58.960 And I,
00:29:59.160 and I,
00:30:00.180 you know,
00:30:00.540 in my business,
00:30:02.180 the business,
00:30:02.960 the business I'm in,
00:30:05.220 I,
00:30:05.640 my job is to identify who's going to be a player in three,
00:30:10.120 five,
00:30:10.360 10 years.
00:30:11.000 That's the business I'm in.
00:30:12.660 That's what I've done the last however many years.
00:30:15.160 So I just look at someone.
00:30:16.260 I say,
00:30:16.560 there's something very different and unique about this guy.
00:30:19.520 I just found it.
00:30:20.040 I just want to send you the intro to this.
00:30:22.860 The first time that he and I spoke,
00:30:24.460 Rob,
00:30:24.680 he had a thousand people at this event.
00:30:29.580 We're in Dallas.
00:30:31.140 Okay.
00:30:32.300 Rob,
00:30:32.820 I just sent you the link.
00:30:33.760 If you can just put the intro,
00:30:35.500 we're in Dallas.
00:30:36.760 And I see this guy.
00:30:39.140 And I said,
00:30:40.260 this guy,
00:30:41.620 this guy's different.
00:30:42.940 There's something very special about this guy.
00:30:45.280 You know,
00:30:46.420 you,
00:30:46.640 you felt the energy.
00:30:48.580 You,
00:30:49.140 you felt the fact that he was not just talking just to talk.
00:30:54.400 He was really selling a vision into something he believed in.
00:30:59.140 Can you,
00:30:59.420 can you open it up,
00:31:00.320 Rob audio?
00:31:01.340 Yes.
00:31:01.740 Go ahead.
00:31:02.320 So one of the things I love doing is I love meeting young cats who love capitalism.
00:31:10.600 And today we're going to meet Charlie Kirk,
00:31:13.380 who I think was a capitalist from the day he was born.
00:31:16.600 And he's been on politics from the day probably he was born.
00:31:19.240 So I'm really curious to hear your story.
00:31:20.800 How you went from it.
00:31:21.360 You can pause it right there.
00:31:22.580 Yeah.
00:31:23.060 And,
00:31:23.340 and it,
00:31:24.200 I leave.
00:31:25.060 I said,
00:31:25.220 this guy's going to be president one day.
00:31:26.700 Okay.
00:31:27.220 So here's the point.
00:31:28.240 I wrote one thing from my whole thing of Charlie Kirk.
00:31:31.040 This is,
00:31:31.400 this is the part.
00:31:33.260 In life,
00:31:34.380 every once in a while,
00:31:36.260 you will meet somebody that is much younger than you,
00:31:41.740 but you'll know immediately this person calibrates at a much more mature level than you.
00:31:53.640 This is what you,
00:31:54.720 when you say age doesn't matter,
00:31:56.720 you feel maturity,
00:31:58.820 you feel wisdom,
00:32:00.580 you feel leadership,
00:32:01.560 you feel a certain level of determination and seriousness that gets you to look past the person being 23.
00:32:12.940 And he said,
00:32:13.340 I don't really care about the age.
00:32:14.560 The way the,
00:32:14.840 the way the guy carries himself is unbelievable.
00:32:17.740 How many people,
00:32:18.740 one of the pastors gets up on stage and he says,
00:32:21.320 one day,
00:32:21.720 Charlie Kirk calls me and he says,
00:32:22.940 I want you to mentor me.
00:32:24.380 And I want you to teach me everything you know about the Bible.
00:32:28.540 And he says,
00:32:29.920 I said,
00:32:31.360 how is that even possible?
00:32:32.600 The smartest guy I know is telling me that I'm going to teach you.
00:32:35.000 What am I going to be able to teach you?
00:32:36.060 Right?
00:32:36.280 I don't know.
00:32:36.640 Whatever the,
00:32:37.580 I think it was Frank.
00:32:38.720 I think it was Frank.
00:32:39.700 Yeah.
00:32:39.820 We said that.
00:32:40.380 Right.
00:32:42.060 And then,
00:32:42.660 uh,
00:32:43.280 uh,
00:32:43.580 J.D.
00:32:43.900 Vance,
00:32:44.740 the vice president,
00:32:45.520 which by the way,
00:32:46.240 for a split second,
00:32:47.140 he held it.
00:32:47.820 He paused for five seconds.
00:32:48.820 He was about to break down.
00:32:50.380 And he says,
00:32:51.240 you know,
00:32:52.100 Charlie last week calls me and he's coming back from Korea.
00:32:54.320 And he says,
00:32:54.660 there's some things I want to talk to you about that.
00:32:56.100 We have to improve what our relationship in Korea.
00:32:59.320 And he says,
00:33:00.140 the one phone call of a guy I would call to ask him for advice.
00:33:05.440 I can no longer make that phone call.
00:33:07.720 And that's Charlie Kirk.
00:33:09.000 This is the vice president talking about calling a 31 year old to get his advice.
00:33:17.500 Charlie was that guy.
00:33:19.460 Charlie was not 31 years old.
00:33:21.220 Physically,
00:33:22.100 he may have been 31 years old,
00:33:24.400 but the way he knew history,
00:33:27.720 the way where his heart was,
00:33:29.620 his faith was,
00:33:30.860 the guy was a real life philosopher,
00:33:34.420 pastor,
00:33:35.380 all combined in one person that we got a chance to witness.
00:33:39.760 Something special happened last week.
00:33:41.840 Before we went to the memorial,
00:33:44.900 Vinny had a new collection.
00:33:46.520 And we just got a report from Leo how successful that collection was.
00:33:50.400 I'm going to have Vinny say a few thoughts and a few words about the faith over fear.
00:33:55.440 Vinny,
00:33:56.160 share with them why you're excited about this shirt.
00:33:58.160 I mean,
00:33:59.060 I think we rarely do back to back.
00:34:01.140 I don't think we ever have done back to back.
00:34:03.160 But it's such a big hit,
00:34:04.280 especially with the timing of it.
00:34:05.540 But so,
00:34:06.000 so as you guys can tell,
00:34:07.260 you know,
00:34:07.660 cross on the front,
00:34:09.060 faith on the fear in the back.
00:34:10.020 I wore this on Sunday and I went to a diner and I'm sitting there.
00:34:14.520 Guys,
00:34:14.780 a guy pats me on the back,
00:34:16.520 sits down next to me,
00:34:17.420 starts telling a story about his faith and his family,
00:34:19.860 starts crying.
00:34:20.780 A waitress comes and she's just sitting there.
00:34:22.400 Her name is Mary.
00:34:23.320 Sitting there,
00:34:24.000 staring at me.
00:34:24.640 I'm at Lester's Diner.
00:34:26.000 I had five people around me talking about faith and what,
00:34:29.440 you know,
00:34:29.740 what this move,
00:34:30.980 something,
00:34:31.740 something is happening,
00:34:32.640 Pat.
00:34:32.720 I got emotional walking in here today with you and crying.
00:34:34.940 And guys,
00:34:35.480 just having faith.
00:34:37.440 Okay.
00:34:38.060 Matt Zapala,
00:34:39.160 you mind if I say?
00:34:39.680 Crazy.
00:34:40.080 Guys,
00:34:40.660 Matt Zapala is a,
00:34:41.660 is a huge big time,
00:34:43.320 loyal,
00:34:43.740 amazing,
00:34:44.300 amazing guy and friend with his wife,
00:34:47.040 Sheena.
00:34:47.540 Dude,
00:34:48.140 he just got on a plane,
00:34:50.020 literally flew to Arizona.
00:34:52.680 No joke.
00:34:53.260 I think Pat,
00:34:53.620 you're going to send it to Rob.
00:34:54.660 Guys,
00:34:55.260 he flies to Arizona.
00:34:56.940 No,
00:34:57.300 nothing,
00:34:57.880 no ticket.
00:34:58.640 He has no way to get in.
00:34:59.980 He has no way to get in.
00:35:01.420 He texts,
00:35:01.720 Pat goes,
00:35:02.020 I'm here guys.
00:35:03.560 And Rob,
00:35:03.860 how many people were walking around outside?
00:35:05.580 Well,
00:35:05.760 they said that there were around a hundred thousand in the area.
00:35:08.360 There were 60,000 inside the stadium.
00:35:10.180 So 40,000 walking around trying to find a way to get in.
00:35:13.260 We're driving in circles.
00:35:14.640 We don't know where we're going.
00:35:15.980 And out of nowhere,
00:35:16.960 out of nowhere,
00:35:17.560 we see Matt Zapala.
00:35:19.540 Now Pat goes,
00:35:20.160 Hey,
00:35:20.300 there's Matt right there.
00:35:20.960 There he is.
00:35:21.580 And by long story short,
00:35:22.640 we get him in the vehicle and he goes,
00:35:24.680 and Pat goes,
00:35:25.460 Pat goes,
00:35:25.980 what are you,
00:35:26.660 what are you doing here?
00:35:27.520 No wife? 0.95
00:35:28.080 No,
00:35:28.220 he's like,
00:35:28.580 he said faith over fear.
00:35:29.980 No,
00:35:30.260 he goes,
00:35:30.560 I just had faith that I got.
00:35:32.800 Something told me,
00:35:33.480 just get on an airplane and go.
00:35:35.660 And he goes,
00:35:36.300 here I am.
00:35:37.260 And he got it,
00:35:37.980 our van and we got him in.
00:35:39.240 And the word faith jumped out.
00:35:41.320 I go,
00:35:41.500 I go,
00:35:41.800 see how,
00:35:42.400 see how God works.
00:35:43.560 Security the whole night.
00:35:44.300 So I tell,
00:35:44.880 so guys,
00:35:45.220 so the thing behind it is just having faith over fear.
00:35:47.680 We don't like,
00:35:48.380 we don't know.
00:35:49.080 None of us saw Jesus Christ,
00:35:50.660 but I have faith because I've heard the stories and I believe,
00:35:53.740 I believe in my heart of hearts and never guys,
00:35:56.240 all this stuff,
00:35:57.220 everything that happened with Charlie,
00:35:58.740 zero fear,
00:35:59.740 zero fear.
00:36:00.420 And we found out that Charlie,
00:36:01.700 God rest his soul died instantly.
00:36:03.540 And I have faith that in that instant second,
00:36:06.620 he was with Jesus and he was with God in heaven.
00:36:10.460 So that's it guys.
00:36:11.180 So faith over fear,
00:36:11.980 let people know that I'm not scared.
00:36:14.200 We're not scared about nothing.
00:36:15.700 Zero.
00:36:16.180 Cause we have faith.
00:36:17.020 Period.
00:36:17.660 Go to vtmerch.com,
00:36:18.680 place your order.
00:36:19.860 Faith over fear.
00:36:20.480 Rob,
00:36:20.660 can we make sure we sit,
00:36:21.560 we put the,
00:36:22.160 if you can go to the website so I can show exactly where it's at and they can
00:36:26.640 find it.
00:36:27.080 You literally go to vtmerch.com and it's the first thing we have there.
00:36:31.700 Go on the collection.
00:36:32.940 There's multiple colors.
00:36:34.180 The white.
00:36:34.680 Apparently the red is doing really good.
00:36:36.180 Yeah.
00:36:36.600 Go whichever color you want.
00:36:38.020 You pick and choose gray.
00:36:39.460 Get your shirt represent.
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