Valuetainment - October 25, 2021


Ex-Sniper With 80 Confirmed Kills Reveals His World Record Kill Shot


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00:00:00.000 You can cope with situations much better for being a loner.
00:00:03.560 I did that shot the first three weeks of my tour,
00:00:06.320 which I didn't know I built the world record.
00:00:10.640 You don't look at them as human beings.
00:00:14.020 You just look them at it as the job.
00:00:16.140 Ten days you're just laying there.
00:00:18.480 You end up peeing yourself.
00:00:22.200 They wanted to cut my head off and kidnap me.
00:00:26.360 You become a robot.
00:00:27.320 You become, they program you because you know no different.
00:00:30.660 People that have lost, friends that have lost through suicide and also through serving.
00:00:37.100 Was there any one of them where you relive quite a lot in your own mind?
00:00:40.440 One that you constantly think about?
00:00:42.320 Yeah, yeah.
00:00:43.880 It's hard to talk about.
00:00:47.040 So one person said, my father is here because of this man.
00:00:50.380 So my guest today is a former sniper, Sergeant Craig Harrison, who at the time, he had the
00:01:00.080 longest shot, ranged 2,475 meters, using a Lapua Magnum 338, which anybody that's broken
00:01:08.640 his record since then has used a .50 cal.
00:01:10.980 And he's got a fascinating story.
00:01:12.440 Here's a man that is an expert at taking people out, 80 plus confirms.
00:01:17.780 But at the same time, you got a person that's strong, experienced war, Afghanistan, done a
00:01:24.040 bunch of different things.
00:01:25.280 At the same time, he talks about the effects of PTSD.
00:01:30.240 He talks about the effects of what it did to him in his personal life, on what it is to
00:01:34.580 be a soldier experiencing those things.
00:01:36.140 So the moment I heard about his story, I watched so many different comments, and one of the
00:01:41.100 videos when I watched his story, I went and read the comments at the bottom of how many
00:01:44.700 people said direct.
00:01:45.720 He says, one guy commented, and he said the following.
00:01:48.000 I want to set this whole thing up so you know who you're about to hear from.
00:01:51.960 One of the comments was the following.
00:01:53.540 It got me emotional when I was reading this comment.
00:01:55.600 One guy said that Craig saved my brother's life in Afghanistan.
00:02:01.740 He's a gentle, loving human being.
00:02:03.160 I'm so sickened to know that he has been released from active duty.
00:02:06.040 Another person said he gave everything, his whole life.
00:02:08.380 He literally gave his life for his country.
00:02:11.000 He broke his brain, and it took him, you know, all this stuff that he goes through.
00:02:14.220 One person said, my father is here because of this man.
00:02:17.100 So you're hearing from someone who is loved, admired, and adored.
00:02:22.420 With that being said, Craig, thank you so much for making the time for being a guest on
00:02:25.660 Valuetainment.
00:02:26.640 No, it's glad to be here.
00:02:27.800 Glad to be here.
00:02:28.420 So, first of all, you know, typically in situations like this, what's your reaction when people
00:02:33.800 say to you, thank you for your service?
00:02:35.300 How do you process that when somebody says, thank you for your service?
00:02:39.780 How do I act with that?
00:02:41.800 I just say I've just done my job.
00:02:43.520 I've just done my job.
00:02:44.300 You know, it's something that I joined when I was 16 years old, straight from school,
00:02:50.140 because it's different American army to the British army.
00:02:53.500 You can join when you're 16.
00:02:55.260 And I did a year's training, and I just, you know, done my job.
00:03:02.560 And I didn't expect to achieve what I achieved in my service, you know.
00:03:07.820 And when people say, you know, thank you for your service, I appreciate that.
00:03:12.000 And it's heart-touching, you know.
00:03:14.360 Got it.
00:03:14.800 But it's not something where, in your mind, you go to, I wish I would have never served
00:03:20.180 because I didn't know what the life was going to be.
00:03:22.160 Do you ever personally go there?
00:03:23.940 You know, because diplomatically, we can tell people, yeah, it was, you know, anytime, no
00:03:27.700 problem.
00:03:28.340 But in your mind, do you go to, man, it's a rough life, man.
00:03:33.140 It's not for everybody.
00:03:34.180 Maybe half the things I saw, I wish I would have never seen.
00:03:37.000 Do you ever go there?
00:03:38.560 Yeah, all the time.
00:03:39.600 All the time.
00:03:42.000 I always say, people daydream.
00:03:44.980 You know, they always daydream about holidays and happy things.
00:03:48.520 I daydream about other things.
00:03:50.760 And that's where I go to my dark place and the demons appear and stuff like that.
00:03:55.500 And that's what I try and fight with.
00:03:57.080 Till today?
00:03:58.780 Still today, yeah.
00:04:00.000 Are those events declining or is it still the same pace?
00:04:04.120 Yeah, same pace.
00:04:05.360 And what are some of the things you daydream of?
00:04:07.180 Is it individuals?
00:04:08.580 Is it settings?
00:04:09.500 Is it events?
00:04:11.060 Is it visuals?
00:04:12.860 Is it a loss of a person, a friend?
00:04:15.340 Where do you daydream?
00:04:16.340 Where do you go?
00:04:16.940 It's a mixture of things.
00:04:18.040 It's a mixture of scenarios that I've been in, close death scenarios that I've been in,
00:04:24.820 stuff that I've witnessed through my sniperscope and not be able to take this shot,
00:04:30.880 but just observe the devastation that people do.
00:04:34.320 Um, and just people that I've lost, friends that I've lost through suicide and also through
00:04:45.140 serving, you know, on tours, everything that, everything just, yeah, it's emotional.
00:04:51.300 It's emotional.
00:04:52.880 How do you cope with it?
00:04:54.060 What's your mechanism on coping with it?
00:04:55.700 Is it a prayer?
00:04:56.960 Is it music?
00:04:58.420 Is it exercise?
00:04:59.720 Is it being around dogs, animals, music?
00:05:02.280 What, what is your route?
00:05:03.120 What, what is your method?
00:05:05.060 Uh, two things.
00:05:06.120 One is being around my wife.
00:05:09.320 Um, she is my absolute rock, my stone, you know, and secondly, I go to the gym a lot,
00:05:16.400 um, and just lose myself for that hour or two hours.
00:05:20.780 It's nice to lose yourself, you know, and not think about things and just lose yourself
00:05:26.580 in your music and your workout and, but also to come home, knowing you've got a wife
00:05:31.940 to support you as well.
00:05:33.360 I think that's a major thing.
00:05:35.660 Powerful.
00:05:36.140 Do you listen to Lose Yourself by Eminem while you're working out or no?
00:05:39.920 No, it's called, uh, Rob Bailey and the Hustle Standard.
00:05:42.860 Got it.
00:05:43.400 Okay.
00:05:43.740 So, so you go a complete different, I thought you said lose yourself.
00:05:46.880 You're sitting there hyping yourself up to Eminem.
00:05:49.140 Um, but why don't we go back?
00:05:50.340 So 16 years old, you go in.
00:05:52.220 Do you think 16 is the right age for a kid to join the military?
00:05:55.560 You think that's the right age?
00:05:57.200 No, no, not at all.
00:05:58.920 What do you think is the right age?
00:06:00.260 I think 18 years.
00:06:01.760 Okay.
00:06:02.100 Got it.
00:06:02.540 18 years old, 18 years old, have a bit of life experience before you join, you know,
00:06:08.360 um, straight from school, you become a robot.
00:06:11.620 You become, they program you because you know, no different, you know, no different
00:06:15.700 about civilian life, about getting a job, about money or anything.
00:06:20.880 You just join the army straight away and that's when they program you.
00:06:24.660 And that's when they start, you know, till you're 17 and then you join the regiment
00:06:29.340 and they start programming you even more.
00:06:32.680 When you went in, let's just say, let's go 15 years old.
00:06:35.120 If I'm in high school with you, who were you at 15?
00:06:38.640 Well, say again, sorry.
00:06:39.720 If I was in school with you at 15 years old, you and I are buddies, we're classmates.
00:06:43.500 Who were you in school at 15 years old before joining the military?
00:06:48.660 Um, quiet, alona.
00:06:51.840 Uh, didn't, I had one friend, um, he's my cousin and we're still good friends now.
00:06:56.720 You know, I've known my cousin since I was like five years old and we're still very tight
00:07:01.780 and we luckily to go to the, we luckily went to the same school and we hung out and, um,
00:07:09.320 yeah, a bit of a loner.
00:07:10.240 I spent more of my time around animals, to be honest with your horses.
00:07:14.860 I've been riding horses since I was five years old.
00:07:17.600 And instead of, you know, going to school, doing, doing my work, doing my homework and
00:07:25.580 then concentrate on horses, you know, and that's, that was my life.
00:07:30.580 That was my upbringing.
00:07:31.980 Do you notice that being a trend amongst the best of the best of the best snipers out there
00:07:36.440 where their personality is a little bit of a loner where they're to themselves?
00:07:40.620 Is that a commonality or not necessarily?
00:07:42.420 Yeah, it is.
00:07:43.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:43.640 Okay.
00:07:44.300 Yeah, you, you, you, you can cope with situations much better, you know, being a loner.
00:07:50.480 You can stay in a position longer because you're low, you're used to being alone, you know,
00:07:57.880 and you work with your number two, who's close with you and he's right next to you all the time,
00:08:03.780 but you don't talk.
00:08:04.960 You know, you get so connected with each other, he knows everything that I'm going to do and
00:08:10.900 I know everything he's going to do, you know, and that's how connected you are.
00:08:15.880 And just to be quiet and be with yourself, yeah, it's, it's a special art.
00:08:25.420 It's an art.
00:08:26.020 I bet.
00:08:26.640 What's the longest you, you've had to be quiet in the position, not moving?
00:08:31.280 What's the longest you went?
00:08:32.340 Uh, one and a half weeks.
00:08:36.000 How long?
00:08:37.400 One and a half weeks.
00:08:39.560 In Afghanistan.
00:08:40.920 You're not moving or standing up, walking, nothing?
00:08:44.200 No.
00:08:44.620 Ten days you're just laying there.
00:08:47.020 Yes, correct.
00:08:48.100 How are you eating?
00:08:49.200 How are you peeing?
00:08:49.940 How are you...
00:08:51.200 Um, you end up peeing yourself.
00:08:53.620 Um, you defecate in a, in a Tupperware jar.
00:08:56.880 So basically you roll over, your number two will put it underneath you.
00:09:01.060 You, you defecate in it.
00:09:02.680 He wraps it up.
00:09:03.460 You put it in your backpack.
00:09:04.860 Um, you dig a trough between your legs.
00:09:07.640 And then when you pee, it sort of like goes down the trough.
00:09:11.520 So it doesn't hinder you.
00:09:14.080 Um, you eat dry food all the time.
00:09:17.360 Because you don't want to cook.
00:09:18.580 You don't want smoke to give your signature away or anything.
00:09:22.700 So you eat cold food.
00:09:24.440 And you catnap through the day.
00:09:26.100 So you'll, he will, he will be on the scope.
00:09:28.720 You catnap for 20 minutes.
00:09:30.400 And then you swap and change.
00:09:32.360 And things like that.
00:09:33.740 Craig, one and a half weeks.
00:09:35.860 So for one and a half weeks, you guys are not talking.
00:09:38.780 You guys are not communicating.
00:09:40.120 Nothing.
00:09:40.520 Everything is nonverbal and you're laying there.
00:09:44.460 That's correct.
00:09:45.200 Yeah.
00:09:45.420 The only, um, time you get to speak is when you send sit reps on the radio.
00:09:49.720 Just to make sure that, you know, everything's going okay.
00:09:53.320 Um, and you're sending, um, sit reps all the time on what the enemy's doing all the time.
00:10:00.280 So that's the only time you get to speak.
00:10:02.320 How special was this assignment where it required you to be that patient?
00:10:06.620 Was this a special assignment in Afghanistan?
00:10:08.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:10.580 Um, to stop the, um, Afghans getting weapons.
00:10:14.380 Um, this village we were looking into, um, the, the Afghans were getting really, um,
00:10:20.180 a lot of weapons systems into this village.
00:10:22.580 And then they distribute it, um, around Afghanistan once it gets into this village.
00:10:27.980 So our job was to, um, gather lifetime information of what's going on, find out who the main people
00:10:36.420 are and, um, eventually take them out.
00:10:39.640 Did you eventually complete your mission on this, on this, in this case?
00:10:42.460 Yeah, we did.
00:10:43.020 Yeah.
00:10:43.380 Yeah.
00:10:44.100 And this was one target or was it multiple targets?
00:10:47.380 Multiple, multiple.
00:10:48.720 How far were they from you where you're situated at?
00:10:51.620 The closest was about 675 yards.
00:10:54.360 And the furthest was about a mile away.
00:10:57.080 So 675 yards, that's seven football fields away from you, the closest.
00:11:02.200 Yeah.
00:11:02.740 And, and where are you?
00:11:04.240 Are you on top of a mountain?
00:11:05.640 Are you by trees?
00:11:06.740 Are you in the desert?
00:11:07.740 What's the situation like?
00:11:09.000 What we used, we had these, um, these cam nets and basically these cam nets, if you turn
00:11:17.500 them one way, they keep the heat in.
00:11:19.960 If you turn them the other way, they keep the heat out.
00:11:22.460 So we managed to cut a big section of this cam net to, to cover ourselves up.
00:11:29.120 And, um, we were on a ridge line, so we're quite high up elevated, looking down into the
00:11:33.840 village.
00:11:34.140 Um, but we had support to our, um, left, um, of major weaponry, but they didn't get involved.
00:11:43.860 It was more of a sniper op than anything else.
00:11:46.620 How many, how many people was it that you took out on this one?
00:11:48.720 How many, uh, uh, what was the number?
00:11:51.280 13.
00:11:52.580 Oh, wow.
00:11:54.300 Got it.
00:11:55.140 So this, so from the moment you knew it was ready, the, the week and a half goes by, the,
00:12:01.760 the 13 confirms, what is the timeline from the first kill to the 13th one?
00:12:09.020 Jeez.
00:12:09.720 You're talking.
00:12:11.640 It all depends where they are at the same time.
00:12:13.900 Um, it was funny because they had a, um, a big heavy machine gun called a, a GAC 17 and
00:12:22.800 it's an anti-aircraft gun and it holds, um, clips of 30 mil rounds.
00:12:29.280 And there were only four in Afghanistan that, that, that the, um, Taliban had and the SAS destroyed
00:12:38.880 two, um, in theater and then there were still two out there and they had one in this village.
00:12:46.100 So as soon as we took the first target out, they, they had a rough idea where it came from,
00:12:52.640 the, the, the, from the noise and, um, they opened up with this ASG 17 and took the whole
00:13:01.460 bridge line out, um, you're talking probably four meters in front of us.
00:13:07.600 It was just, it was all splashing up.
00:13:09.620 We were getting shot at.
00:13:10.640 We just kept our heads down.
00:13:12.020 We didn't move or anything.
00:13:13.640 And then at the nighttime, we, we've drew out that position and we went into another position
00:13:21.420 because we were, you know, worried that we had been seen, um, or being compromised.
00:13:27.160 But, um, you're talking 13 people with probably within a space of, um, within them 10 days.
00:13:37.140 Oh, I got you.
00:13:38.060 So, so it's not like you're sitting still and then on the 10th day, one shows up, boom,
00:13:43.020 boom, boom, boom.
00:13:44.320 It's not that.
00:13:45.080 That's not the, the, no.
00:13:46.860 Okay.
00:13:47.220 If I had an opportunity to take the target out and it's called having green guns.
00:13:51.260 You say, yeah, you've got a green light, you've got green guns.
00:13:54.140 You can take the target out.
00:13:55.580 Um, you can, um, eliminate what you, you, what you perceive to be the threat at the time.
00:14:04.260 But as a sniper, your main role is, everyone thinks of being a sniper, your main role is to shoot people.
00:14:11.800 It's not.
00:14:12.660 It's to gather lifetime information of the battlefield.
00:14:16.660 Yeah.
00:14:16.980 And so when you go in, you get as much information as possible on that surrounding area.
00:14:22.980 And then you go back, you hand all your information over and they say, right, then this is what,
00:14:28.720 this is how we're going to, you know, this is how we're going to play this out.
00:14:32.920 You know, and then you go back into your position and you start taking targets out.
00:14:37.360 Craig, what were the main places you were deployed in?
00:14:39.580 I know it's a lot of Afghanistan I hear about, but what are the places where you deployed at?
00:14:44.760 Um, I've been deployed in Bosnia, Kosovo, um, Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:14:50.000 Are all these places you were deployed, you have a confirmed kill in all these places or no?
00:14:55.960 No, Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:14:57.720 Got it.
00:14:58.100 How difference was Iraq and Afghanistan for you when you were deployed?
00:15:02.840 It was funny because in Iraq, um, they were, it was more urbanized.
00:15:10.840 You know, you're talking about Basra city, um, and big, big built up areas.
00:15:17.520 Um, so you're talking, you got a hunt, um, then down by your urban.
00:15:23.000 So you're in buildings, you know, and some days.
00:15:28.100 The gates of hell would open, you know, and some days it'd be all quiet.
00:15:33.600 And in Afghanistan, you're talking about, it's more desert.
00:15:37.360 Uh, you, they, they have compounds and they have little villages, but nothing built up like Iraq was.
00:15:44.580 Got it.
00:15:45.400 Got it.
00:15:45.740 And Kosovo, Bosnia, was that between 97 to 99?
00:15:49.220 Was it right?
00:15:49.720 That's correct.
00:15:50.100 Yeah.
00:15:50.220 Got it.
00:15:50.760 Yeah.
00:15:50.920 I remember that.
00:15:51.880 Uh, I was in the army when, uh, the, the, everybody was getting deployed to Kosovo, Bosnia.
00:15:56.280 Uh, and it was a mess that, uh, at that time, but, uh, going back to the 2,475 meters, uh,
00:16:02.760 that, that, uh, uh, was that in Iraq or was that in Afghanistan?
00:16:06.860 Afghanistan.
00:16:07.660 That was, was that the same 10 days or it's a different setting?
00:16:11.220 No, that was, um, I did that shot.
00:16:13.860 I did that shot the first three weeks of my tour.
00:16:18.380 So I was, I was there for you.
00:16:21.080 When you go on tour, you get, um, sort of like, um, used to the heat and all that before
00:16:27.840 you get dispersed out to your operations.
00:16:31.000 Um, so as soon as I got dispersed out to my operations within three weeks, I took that
00:16:36.060 shot, which I didn't know I broke the world record.
00:16:38.900 When did you know you broke the record?
00:16:40.860 Who told you that somebody whispered to you or?
00:16:43.780 No, no.
00:16:44.380 When I, when I came back to, um, England, we, we have a medals parade, like you get your
00:16:52.740 ribbons and all that to say, welcome home.
00:16:55.560 And the, the media is welcoming to the camp to interview you and talk to you.
00:17:01.720 Um, and, um, I spoke to this gentleman and I said that, you know, I was a sniper, also
00:17:09.060 a sergeant in charge of these guys.
00:17:11.420 And he said, can you tell me a story?
00:17:13.100 And I told him the story of my shot.
00:17:15.440 And he said, do you realize you broke the world record?
00:17:17.800 You beat Rob Furlong's record, the Canadian guy, um, by, you know, a long way.
00:17:23.760 And I went, no, I didn't.
00:17:24.920 And when it went into the papers, that's when we, me and my wife got death threats and we
00:17:31.720 had to go in hiding for three years.
00:17:34.240 Oh, because they put it in the papers and you don't, as a sniper, you definitely don't want
00:17:39.580 that.
00:17:40.520 No, it was my wife's name, my daughter's name, my dog's name, where I lived, where I was born,
00:17:46.740 where I was raised up, everything, everything was in the papers.
00:17:50.220 And funny enough, my wife said, I've got a bad feeling about this.
00:17:53.600 I've got a bad feeling about this.
00:17:55.660 And everyone just kept saying to her, you know, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
00:18:00.400 And then, um, I, there was another clip in the paper because of the two guys that I shot
00:18:07.240 were Taliban leaders.
00:18:10.100 Um, they wanted to cut my head off and, um, kidnap me and, uh, to, just to, um, teach me
00:18:17.940 a lesson.
00:18:19.980 And so what did you guys have to move just to make sure you were safe?
00:18:23.020 Did you go to a different place so they couldn't, uh...
00:18:25.740 Yeah, we, we went into secure housing and then we moved to America for three years.
00:18:30.800 Just for that one event.
00:18:31.820 And this is two people you took out, right, at this event.
00:18:34.100 It's, uh...
00:18:34.760 Yes, it is, yeah, two people.
00:18:36.060 And the 2,475, for, for some people that maybe can't visually see what, that's about
00:18:41.880 a half, half a mile we're talking about, right?
00:18:44.680 Just over a mile and a half, yeah.
00:18:46.020 Just over a mile and a half is what we're, that's right, a mile and a half is what we're
00:18:48.500 talking about.
00:18:49.460 So, so, two there, 80 total, 13 in that one Afghanistan.
00:18:54.360 What was the biggest difference between the first kill versus the last one?
00:18:59.140 First, uh, confirmed kill versus the last one.
00:19:01.160 Was there a big difference emotionally where the last one is like, you know, boom, it's
00:19:06.500 a job, I'm moving on.
00:19:07.500 The first one you're like, oh my gosh, did I do, you know, what was the biggest difference
00:19:11.400 for you?
00:19:12.760 That one you, when I first, um, when I first got a first shot and, you know, and onto my
00:19:26.340 target, you feel like you're in trouble.
00:19:29.220 You feel like you're in trouble.
00:19:30.340 You think, Christ, I've killed someone, you know?
00:19:33.600 Um, somebody's going to tap me on the shoulder and say, you know, can we have a quick word
00:19:37.640 of you, you know, why did you do this?
00:19:40.380 Why did you do that?
00:19:41.540 Because I didn't know, you know, it was my job at the time.
00:19:45.600 And, and then you don't get blasé, but you sort of get into the rhythm of things when
00:19:51.720 you're taking targets out.
00:19:53.100 You don't look at them as human beings.
00:19:56.080 You just look them at as, as, as the job, the operation that you need to do to take that
00:20:02.520 target out.
00:20:03.180 Is, is there any one of them that you had to do where there were, uh, uh, the, it was
00:20:08.340 so technical because there were kids involved and you have to try to get the target that
00:20:13.600 you had, uh, uh, in a climate where there are kids around.
00:20:16.860 And the only reason I think about this, I think about it from the movie, you know, the movie
00:20:19.900 with, uh, uh, yeah, where I interviewed his wife.
00:20:24.380 I had her on Taya and you know, that one scene where there's kids is like, Oh my gosh, how
00:20:28.980 do I do it?
00:20:29.480 What do I do in this angle?
00:20:30.320 Was there ever a, you know, situation like that, that you were in?
00:20:34.480 Yeah, there was.
00:20:35.400 Yeah.
00:20:35.720 In, um, in Iraq, um, in, in Basel itself, where it was in a place, um, a little place
00:20:43.140 called the Pijok.
00:20:44.380 And there was only, um, like 12 of us at this location and it is a police station basically.
00:20:52.560 And every time, every night, the insurgents used to come up and try and break into the
00:21:00.100 prison to release all the people in the prison.
00:21:03.020 So our job was to take the insurgents out, but from 11 o'clock at night or five o'clock
00:21:09.300 in the morning, it was like the gates of hell.
00:21:11.620 So when you, when five o'clock comes, the marketplace opens and then you get everyone, it's really
00:21:19.840 busy, you know, but you can still see your targets.
00:21:23.160 So you end up tracking them.
00:21:24.820 You end up tracking them.
00:21:26.160 You end up observing.
00:21:27.520 You end up, um, finding out where they go, where they hold up.
00:21:31.680 And when the night comes, you're back on that target and where they are, and you end up
00:21:36.320 taking that target out.
00:21:39.180 It's wild.
00:21:40.000 Just thinking about it, you know, on that war.
00:21:42.100 Was there any, any one of the 80 that you afterwards, minus the first one, because it's
00:21:49.260 the first one you were experiencing.
00:21:50.420 Was there any one of them where you relive quite a lot in your own mind?
00:21:53.860 One that you constantly think about or no?
00:21:56.720 Yeah.
00:21:57.260 Yeah.
00:21:58.140 It's hard to talk about.
00:21:59.280 So there is, there is something that in your mind, it goes back.
00:22:03.080 And is it more about something where I should have done it this way?
00:22:06.680 I should have done it that way.
00:22:07.660 Or was it just a setting that, uh, you keep reliving?
00:22:16.020 Just, just the whole scenario.
00:22:21.820 I should have done it different, you know?
00:22:23.660 Got it.
00:22:25.220 Yeah.
00:22:25.620 Because I mean, I think about like, you know, in the, in a sport, a boxer, okay.
00:22:31.320 Like right now, Wilder lost to Tyson Fury, which by the way, you sound like if I close
00:22:35.360 my eyes, I'm thinking I'm talking to Tyson Fury.
00:22:37.640 And you know, I don't know if you guys know each other, if you guys have met or not, or
00:22:40.600 you know, but, uh, so Wilder win, loses, right.
00:22:44.540 And he loses second time.
00:22:46.460 And he could have won this one, right?
00:22:47.840 He could have won this one because the couple, one knockout, the other one, let's just say
00:22:52.220 he slipped, but knockout.
00:22:54.200 So the coaches afterward have to mentally get him back in the state.
00:22:58.840 Many, many boxers, when they lose something like this, like when Foreman lost, he was in
00:23:02.960 depression for three years and somebody goes and works with them, with these athletes,
00:23:06.660 right?
00:23:06.840 The same thing happens in sports, you know, basketball, you missed the shot and you were
00:23:10.820 supposed to win the game.
00:23:11.920 And everybody was relying on you or election.
00:23:14.380 You have to concede, call the other person and say, well, congratulations to you.
00:23:17.800 And Hillary Clinton having to call Trump or something like that.
00:23:20.600 I mean, this stuff is public humiliating loss, right?
00:23:25.200 When you, when you're going through this, what, what is the program they have to coach,
00:23:33.700 counsel the sniper after they had an experience?
00:23:37.400 Who did you guys go talk to, to calm you down?
00:23:40.880 Was there anybody?
00:23:41.480 No, listen, it took me on that, my last tour of Afghan, I got blown up.
00:23:50.760 Also, I got, I got my helmet here.
00:23:53.720 I got shot in the helmet.
00:23:55.260 So I got shot there and it came out there.
00:23:59.240 Wow.
00:24:00.180 And it knocked me out for about 20, probably 20 seconds.
00:24:04.980 I was clean out.
00:24:05.720 And that was an AK-47 short round.
00:24:09.120 And that got shot at probably a hundred yards, if that, and it knocked me clean out.
00:24:15.340 And then three weeks after that, I got blown up by an IED, a 30 kilo anti-tank mine, hit
00:24:21.120 my vehicle, which I broke both my arms.
00:24:23.780 I got a brain injury, my hips are knackered, everything.
00:24:29.680 And then, um, I was put back to England and then six weeks later, they took the casts off
00:24:42.080 my hands, made me do 10 press-ups and redeployed me back into Afghanistan.
00:24:48.780 And then when my tour finished, I didn't feel right up here.
00:24:52.160 You know, when my tour finished, um, I did 23 years in the British army and it took me
00:25:00.680 half an hour to get kicked out, to say goodbye.
00:25:04.680 No thank you, no good service, no nothing.
00:25:08.980 They just, just kick you out.
00:25:11.200 They kicked you out for what?
00:25:12.340 For, uh, PTSD, uh, adjustment disorder, uh, and also my injuries, my injuries.
00:25:19.900 23 years and took them half an hour.
00:25:21.500 So, how, how do you feel, how do you, in your mind, how do you feel about the, the way they
00:25:31.600 handled it?
00:25:32.240 How do you feel about, uh, the military itself?
00:25:35.900 Is it more your frustration is towards an individual or the entire institution as a whole?
00:25:42.200 You know, where is your biggest frustration with?
00:25:46.040 Just the, how the army treat people with PTSD.
00:25:50.560 Um, and how they go about treating it.
00:25:54.100 Don't get me wrong.
00:25:55.520 My, I have a friend now who's suffering and he's still serving.
00:25:59.140 He's, he's in the process of getting discharged.
00:26:01.860 And, um, what they've offered him, the regiment is fantastic.
00:26:06.840 But when I, you know, eight years ago, uh, it was no, nothing like that.
00:26:12.940 It was just, you get kicked out the regiment, you get palmed off onto, um, like a sick regiment
00:26:19.320 where they look after all the wounded and injured soldiers.
00:26:22.840 And then from there, they sort your discharge papers out and you, you're gone.
00:26:28.300 You know?
00:26:29.340 Did they give you a hundred percent retirement?
00:26:31.080 Is it a hundred percent?
00:26:32.660 No.
00:26:32.680 Fifty percent?
00:26:33.300 No, thirty percent.
00:26:34.120 Thirty percent retirement on 23 years.
00:26:36.920 Yeah.
00:26:37.300 So not even a hundred percent disability, any of that?
00:26:39.660 They didn't give you any of that?
00:26:41.240 No, thirty percent.
00:26:42.360 It's kind of weird because in U.S. they started doing a hundred percent on things like this
00:26:46.540 and they were not at one point, but thirty percent.
00:26:49.280 So what did you do after being a sniper?
00:26:51.840 How do you make your money?
00:26:53.120 I mean, on your resume, you say, hey, I'd like to get a job here.
00:26:56.160 What are you great at?
00:26:56.900 I'm great at taking people out, two thousand, you know, what do you go do?
00:27:00.720 Do you become a manager or something?
00:27:02.000 What is, what, what job qualifies you to go and say, I'm qualified to do this job?
00:27:07.960 I'm lucky.
00:27:08.720 I work for a company at the moment that, um, understand about PTSD and understand.
00:27:14.800 And I'm probably the third, fourth person that was in the military, sort of like being discharged.
00:27:23.660 And they're really good.
00:27:24.660 And I just work in a factory, basically.
00:27:26.920 I work in a factory and that's all I do now.
00:27:29.520 And I sit at my bench making parts for machinery and that's all I do.
00:27:36.600 And it's, it's my, it's, it's mind numbing, but it's, it's a job and I'm lucky to have a job.
00:27:42.800 And I'm lucky that this company is taking me on and they looked after me and I appreciate that.
00:27:47.320 Well, good for them, man, for doing that.
00:27:48.780 You know, the, the companies that do things like that, uh, uh, I, I spoke to a group in
00:27:53.840 Dallas who were former paratrooper, Navy SEALs, Delta, you know, all the main ones, Ranger,
00:28:00.840 all the big ones in the U S that we have.
00:28:02.620 Right.
00:28:03.440 And these are sharp looking guys like you, sharp guys, strong guys, and having a hard
00:28:09.280 time getting a job, then a hard time getting a job after the career, because what do you
00:28:12.360 see on your resume?
00:28:13.060 You know, although some of them like a sniper, I can imagine a sniper, are you a math guy
00:28:18.240 or no, are you somebody that's good with numbers?
00:28:19.920 I'm assuming you have to be as a sniper, right?
00:28:21.580 Cause the whole thing is math and angle.
00:28:23.720 Yeah.
00:28:23.920 But since I've, um, got a TBI, um, little things that stress me, I get stressed a lot
00:28:31.060 lately, you know, I get, um, frustrated with myself cause I can't do much like I used to
00:28:37.120 like, um, this November I'm, I'm having my hips replaced, you know, so I won't be able
00:28:44.360 to go into the gym.
00:28:45.120 So that's more stress and more frustration with me, you know, but the, the, going back
00:28:51.960 to the army, the army is getting much better at how they're dealing with things.
00:28:56.600 The British army and the way they're handling it.
00:28:58.720 Yeah.
00:28:59.720 Nowadays they're getting much better.
00:29:01.600 You know, I think they're learning by their mistakes.
00:29:03.800 You can't go back and reapply for a hundred percent.
00:29:07.120 Um, I did, you know what, I went for a tribunal and, um, I walked in and it was all done by
00:29:16.040 video link cause I was in America at the time.
00:29:18.480 So I had to go to Baltimore to do a video link to England.
00:29:22.200 And, uh, the, the woman judge said to me, she looked at me and she goes, well, Mr. Harrison,
00:29:28.040 you seem a very capable young man.
00:29:31.360 And that was it.
00:29:32.280 And it was got, he got pushed out of court.
00:29:37.120 Yeah, I lost it.
00:29:38.160 I lost my tribunal.
00:29:40.120 I don't, I don't understand that part.
00:29:42.580 You know, a guy gives, uh, more than half of his life to your country, puts his life on
00:29:47.220 the line, gets shot up on, get, you do it.
00:29:49.380 It's all these things that people are just not willing to do.
00:29:51.980 And then, all right.
00:29:53.420 Hey, thank you.
00:29:54.100 Awesome.
00:29:54.820 All the best to you.
00:29:55.480 Good luck.
00:29:55.820 Here's 30%.
00:29:56.040 That part.
00:29:57.340 I don't get, uh, there were certain situations in the U S army where guys left and they had
00:30:03.740 scenarios, obviously not as extreme as yours.
00:30:06.380 And they left at 30%.
00:30:08.000 15 years later, they went back and applied.
00:30:10.120 They got the a hundred percent 15 years later, but during that 15% that we're not getting
00:30:13.460 it.
00:30:13.600 So I'm curious to know if, uh, if, uh, the British army will ever consider doing that.
00:30:18.120 Let me, let me ask a different question in regards to yourself.
00:30:22.560 When you're in there, you're, you're looking at the Taliban as enemies.
00:30:27.620 You're looking at these guys as enemies.
00:30:29.940 Now that you're disconnected from it and you're, you're, this is not your day to day stuff.
00:30:34.440 How do you view, uh, both, uh, folks in Iraq, Afghanis and the Taliban?
00:30:41.420 Obviously I'm asking this question because the last 60 days, 90 days, you know, the world's
00:30:46.480 turned upside down in Afghanistan with the way America left.
00:30:49.420 And there's a lot of different conversations around it.
00:30:51.340 But how do you view from personal experience, Afghanistan, Iraq and the Taliban?
00:30:57.620 Um, I don't want to get too political about it, but it's, um, it's hurtful.
00:31:03.160 It's hurtful.
00:31:03.940 You know, you put in Afghanistan, for instance, 20 years of infrastructure that the Americans
00:31:09.440 have put in, the English have put in, we pulled out, the Americans put more, more, more in
00:31:14.480 there.
00:31:14.820 And then it just went wrong.
00:31:17.580 It just went wrong.
00:31:18.380 And to know that I've lost people out there, to know that I've coming back to England and
00:31:27.220 I've had friends commit suicide because of Afghanistan, it makes you angry.
00:31:33.520 It makes you angry.
00:31:34.560 And it makes you angry towards, towards the government really, that they haven't done much
00:31:41.020 more to defend it.
00:31:42.080 And not even an apology, not even a, I do believe that in our local papers out here, they had,
00:31:50.380 um, mothers of, um, sons that have been killed out there wanting an apology of the prime minister
00:31:58.520 and, um, which they never got, you know, never got.
00:32:03.300 I understand it's their job and that's how a job out there to do a job, you know, but
00:32:08.120 it's like doing a job and you've come away with nothing really.
00:32:14.560 Yeah.
00:32:15.020 I mean, and that's gotta be especially, uh, uh, uh, more personal to you because you, you
00:32:21.740 put a lot of your, uh, uh, deployment there, uh, for somebody who's never had direct dealings
00:32:27.100 with the Taliban.
00:32:27.680 They don't, all they know is what the news says, you know, one channel says they're evil
00:32:32.340 people.
00:32:32.800 Another channel says they're changing.
00:32:34.400 One channel says they're marrying 11 year old girls, grown 40 year old men are marrying
00:32:40.340 11 year.
00:32:41.060 And you know, you should read these stories and there's no way in the world this can be
00:32:44.340 true.
00:32:44.580 This has gotta be, there's no way the world's going to allow things, these types of things
00:32:48.060 to happen.
00:32:48.760 Another publication says, no, that's true.
00:32:50.520 That's exactly what's happening.
00:32:51.540 What was your direct experience on how these folks are, are they as evil as, uh, we read
00:32:58.540 about in many different publications?
00:33:00.940 Yeah.
00:33:02.880 In my eyes, in my eyes, I, I not, yeah, they're, um, a different breed, different breed, you
00:33:11.360 know?
00:33:11.740 But I feel like you said that you've heard that they need to change.
00:33:16.960 I think they need to change.
00:33:18.280 They need to change to get the Afghan people on side.
00:33:21.600 So, you know, so things need to change for, for the better, not for the worst.
00:33:27.540 You think they will, you think, you think the Taliban will change?
00:33:32.460 I think they, they will just put a smoke screen up to say, you know, we're going to do this.
00:33:38.360 We'll promise this.
00:33:39.060 We'll promise that.
00:33:40.240 Or it will go all quiet.
00:33:41.740 And then, you know, they've done what they've done.
00:33:48.280 Um, it's a sad situation, man, seeing what's going on over there.
00:33:51.820 Um, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a hard thing to talk about.
00:33:54.920 Hard thing to talk about.
00:33:55.580 I bet, especially for somebody like you.
00:33:58.220 Yeah.
00:33:59.420 Uh, last couple of things here before we wrap up, you know, uh, what is the biggest difference
00:34:04.440 between, you know, you using a Lapua Magnum, you know, the 338 versus a 50 Cal when you're
00:34:10.180 shooting something that far?
00:34:11.280 What is the level of difficulty using a 338 versus a 50 Cal?
00:34:16.920 A 50 Cal can go four Ks.
00:34:19.740 So that can go, that can go up to three miles.
00:34:23.020 It can go in a straight line, you know, and, and it's designed, it's a bigger round.
00:34:28.060 Mine's only a small round.
00:34:29.800 Like I said before, my rifle was only meant to go 1500 meters.
00:34:34.020 That's the, the max distance of my rifle.
00:34:36.840 So you have to calculate that, that, the, you have to calculate, I mean, this is pure
00:34:43.960 geometry, right?
00:34:45.060 If you have to calculate the incline and the decline, uh, uh, wow.
00:34:50.640 So if you, so if you shoot a bullet, say for instance, at a hundred meters, you shoot a
00:34:57.020 bullet.
00:34:57.340 Now that bullet would go flat.
00:34:59.000 That bullet will stay flat up to 300 to 350 meters.
00:35:02.520 But just for, just for argument's sake, if it did rise up, that bullet did rise up, the
00:35:09.380 highest point of that bullet will be three quarters.
00:35:12.580 So it'd be at, um, 70 meters would be the highest point of that bullet.
00:35:18.560 And then it would start dropping.
00:35:20.080 So a mile and a half thousand yards, highest point would be 700.
00:35:25.800 So it starts dropping.
00:35:27.260 So you've got to work it out where it's going to drop.
00:35:29.180 And, and how many tries did it take for you to hit this target, the mile and a half?
00:35:34.440 Well, in the morning, um, I saw that there was a dicker, um, a guy with an icon chatter,
00:35:40.240 uh, radio.
00:35:41.600 Yep.
00:35:42.500 And, uh, I saw the glint, the antenna and I can see the Taliban where I was waiting to
00:35:51.140 ambush the patrol going in.
00:35:52.740 So, uh, took nine shots to get there, to hit the compound wall.
00:35:57.900 And I was bracketing, it's called bracketing, where you fire the first shot and you go, okay,
00:36:02.220 lift it up a bit more.
00:36:03.700 Yeah.
00:36:03.980 But what everyone forgets, I was stood up when I fired these shots.
00:36:08.700 I wasn't lying down.
00:36:10.600 I was lent against the wall.
00:36:11.940 Is there a difference?
00:36:14.960 Um, it's, it's harder because you've got the recall, the going back, you know, the wall
00:36:22.900 kept crumbling.
00:36:24.160 You got the undulating of the ground as well.
00:36:27.020 It was just a nightmare, but yeah, I, I managed to bracket in one round, hit the compound wall
00:36:33.380 and then the dicker's head went down and I had an interpreter with me who had a radio tuned
00:36:40.040 into the Taliban frequency.
00:36:42.340 And he said to me that the Taliban are blind now because they can't see what's going on.
00:36:50.660 So that was, that was roughly about 11 o'clock in the morning.
00:36:55.020 I did that shot.
00:36:56.520 And then when I, when I took these other guys out, it was roughly about one o'clock.
00:37:04.260 The contact lasted for about two hours.
00:37:06.500 Standing up, you, I guess the word I would use is calibrated, but you're saying bracketing.
00:37:15.820 So, and that's, that's insane to be thinking about that.
00:37:20.340 And, and a weapon that only goes 1500 and you went, you know, that's, uh, another thousand
00:37:26.520 meters more than that.
00:37:27.640 Do you have a favorite weapon yourself from over the years?
00:37:31.680 Um, that rifle's good.
00:37:33.840 That rifle's good.
00:37:34.440 It's a solid rifle.
00:37:35.260 You know what I mean?
00:37:36.680 And it's proven to do the job and it does the job well.
00:37:39.580 And it's got a lot of stopping power as well.
00:37:41.780 Do you still go to the range today or no?
00:37:44.320 No, I don't know.
00:37:45.160 We don't, I, cause my PTSD, they're quite strict in England about shooting.
00:37:49.220 But when I was in America, I used to go to the range all the time.
00:37:51.920 Oh, so it doesn't, it doesn't bother you if you go, even today, if you were to go, you,
00:37:55.020 you would have gone if, if, if they allowed you.
00:37:56.780 So it's funny really, because in America, they, if you've got PTSD or you've got some sort of
00:38:02.360 stress from the army, they say, instead of going to the cinema, instead of going for lunch,
00:38:08.160 let's go to the range.
00:38:09.960 And you see, everyone just goes to the range and has a good time blowing rounds and all that.
00:38:15.260 So not really.
00:38:16.480 It doesn't, sometimes it does, you know, when I look for a scope, I get like a little sharp
00:38:21.740 image sometimes and I shake it off and then there's a crack on, you know, but yeah, but
00:38:29.160 I don't, I don't shoot anymore.
00:38:30.560 Do you watch any of the movies?
00:38:31.740 Are you a guy that watches any military movies or no?
00:38:34.420 No, no, I end up critiquing it and that can't be right.
00:38:39.440 No, that's wrong.
00:38:40.740 No, that's wrong.
00:38:42.180 You know, have you seen anything that was very like, you're like, that's the closest thing
00:38:47.180 I've seen that.
00:38:47.680 Yeah.
00:38:47.780 That was somewhat believable.
00:38:49.400 Anything you've seen.
00:38:50.240 There's a British film called Kajaki.
00:38:52.480 Kajaki.
00:38:53.580 Yeah.
00:38:54.020 That's a good film.
00:38:55.200 And that's, that's like the most accurate depiction of what it looks like.
00:38:59.940 It's nothing to do with snipering, but it's to do with.
00:39:04.420 A patrol in a post in Iraq.
00:39:08.720 And that's, that's, I would say, yeah, that's more like it was like.
00:39:12.680 Got it.
00:39:13.500 And, and do you have any kids?
00:39:15.700 I don't know if you have any kids or not.
00:39:17.460 I've got two daughters.
00:39:18.840 Two daughters.
00:39:19.400 Okay.
00:39:20.180 If you had a son and he's thinking about joining the military to be a sniper, what would
00:39:25.020 you tell him?
00:39:26.620 Get a trade.
00:39:29.260 Get a trade?
00:39:30.020 Join, yeah, join the engineers, you know, join something where you become a carpenter.
00:39:36.780 You've got a bricklayer, you know, a battle engineer when you can drive all these machineries
00:39:41.720 and everything.
00:39:42.360 So when you do come out, the armed forces, because they don't look after you when you
00:39:46.140 come out, you've got something to fall back on.
00:39:48.340 And like you said, these special forces guys can't get jobs, you know, I'm lucky.
00:39:54.520 But if you as an engineer and you left with all your licenses, you can drive big Arctic
00:39:59.720 lorries and you can build a fence, you can build a wall, you're made.
00:40:03.960 So that's what I would say to my son.
00:40:06.100 Got it.
00:40:06.420 And to anybody else that's joining the military sniper, do you look at the job of a sniper
00:40:12.800 as a, you know, admirable thing?
00:40:15.600 Like, oh my gosh, you know, this person's a sniper.
00:40:18.620 Is that how you look at it?
00:40:19.440 Or are you kind of like, like, I know what it is to be a sniper.
00:40:21.680 I lived that life for 23 years.
00:40:23.540 There is, it's not a life you want to live.
00:40:25.760 Where do you go yourself when you think about it?
00:40:28.380 They say in the army, you do trades.
00:40:31.220 So you do, a sniper will be a trade, a paratrooper will be a trade.
00:40:38.920 And I say snipering is a curse.
00:40:43.980 Yeah, because it scars you, it scars you.
00:40:47.820 What a perspective, man.
00:40:49.260 Snipering is a curse.
00:40:51.540 So to wrap up, Craig, book, Longest Kill.
00:40:56.460 Can you take a moment and tell us about the book, The Longest Kill?
00:40:59.500 Yeah, well, I wrote the book because I wanted to put people right about the shots
00:41:06.580 because I think the Americans did something on YouTube
00:41:09.700 where they had me lying down and everything.
00:41:12.680 I just wanted to put everyone right.
00:41:14.440 But I just couldn't do one chapter in the book.
00:41:17.260 So I did it about my life story.
00:41:19.800 You know, when I was a child, my childhood, you know, which was good.
00:41:23.720 And then from there, joining the army, joining the Fallen Legion, doing prize fighting.
00:41:30.880 Just things that I'd done.
00:41:32.640 Prize fighting?
00:41:33.360 You know, yeah, I did prize fighting for a while for money.
00:41:37.920 About the wrong place at the wrong time.
00:41:39.860 How was that?
00:41:40.480 How was the experience of prize fighting?
00:41:42.940 Painful.
00:41:44.180 I bet.
00:41:45.580 I bet.
00:41:46.160 Yeah, you just, you did it for money.
00:41:48.000 You did it for money.
00:41:48.640 I met this person that I knew and he introduced me to it.
00:41:53.700 And so I did it for a while.
00:41:56.180 And then you sort of, yeah, you become a bit painful after a while.
00:42:03.180 So you sort of give it up.
00:42:05.120 Who do people say you look like?
00:42:06.320 I got two people I think you look like.
00:42:08.080 I'm curious to know what you say.
00:42:09.720 Who do people say you look like?
00:42:10.980 Anybody or no?
00:42:11.780 Is it Matt Dillon?
00:42:15.080 Well, I can see that one.
00:42:16.280 100% I can see that one.
00:42:18.060 But I got a combination of two cats.
00:42:20.260 And by the way, people that are watching this, say yes or no.
00:42:22.500 If it doesn't make any sense, say, Pat, give it a thumbs down.
00:42:25.800 If it makes sense, give it a thumbs up.
00:42:28.120 But I see a Conor and a Dan Bilzerian.
00:42:31.880 I don't know if you know these two characters.
00:42:33.340 Maybe you know Conor McGregor.
00:42:34.480 You may know him.
00:42:35.160 Yeah, I do.
00:42:35.920 But Dan is a different guy.
00:42:37.000 And they're both, obviously, these are studs that we're talking about.
00:42:43.900 But interesting life you've lived, man.
00:42:46.280 Very, very interesting life you've lived.
00:42:48.280 And I appreciate you coming out here.
00:42:49.880 We're going to put the link to your book below for folks to be able to go pick up as well.
00:42:53.340 But more than anything else, just listening to your story and still doing your best to have this attitude and going about your life.
00:43:00.640 And to have your wife in your life where you're calling her, you're rock and exercising, that is a form of losing yourself for that hour or two in the gym.
00:43:12.320 It's honorable to hear a man that's served and is willing to talk about it and is as humble as you are.
00:43:18.260 I appreciate you coming on and being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:43:20.420 I really enjoyed this time with you.
00:43:22.500 Thank you.
00:43:23.020 I appreciate talking to you.
00:43:23.980 Anytime, brother.
00:43:24.520 Take care of yourself.
00:43:25.660 Thank you.
00:43:26.140 Thank you very much.
00:43:27.460 Let me put it to you this way.
00:43:28.620 Every time I do an interview, the guys that are here, I ask them, so tell me what you think about it.
00:43:32.600 We were all speechless by his story.
00:43:34.880 That's all I can tell you.
00:43:35.920 And I don't know about you.
00:43:36.860 I'm curious to know what you took away from this because I'm sure you were also speechless.
00:43:40.300 A week and a half with your partner not moving, nothing.
00:43:44.080 Could you do that for a week?
00:43:45.980 Imagine a job where you have to lay there as a grown man or a grown woman for a week and a half.
00:43:51.960 Blown away.
00:43:52.980 If you like the interview, give us a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel.
00:43:55.860 And if you like this, I did an interview also with another sniper who had 33 confirmed kills.
00:44:01.140 I believe he was the first African-American sniper from a unit.
00:44:06.020 You need to hear a story.
00:44:07.320 Fascinating story.
00:44:08.000 He got a couple million views.
00:44:09.440 And it's another one of those stories where you're going to be flabbergasted by his life of a sniper.
00:44:14.460 So if you've not seen that, click over here.
00:44:15.820 Take care, everybody.
00:44:16.540 Bye-bye.
00:44:16.780 Bye-bye.
00:44:16.840 Bye-bye.
00:44:17.780 Bye-bye.