Valuetainment - October 25, 2021


Ex-Sniper With 80 Confirmed Kills Reveals His World Record Kill Shot


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Sergeant Craig Harrison is a former British Army Sniper who served with the British Army and the British Special Operations Forces. He served as a sniper in Afghanistan and has been released from active duty. In this episode, Craig talks about his experience with PTSD and how it has affected his life and how he deals with it.

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00:00:00.000 You can cope with situations much better for being a loner.
00:00:03.560 I did that shot the first three weeks of my tour,
00:00:06.320 which I didn't know I built the world record.
00:00:10.640 You don't look at them as human beings.
00:00:14.020 You just look them at it as the job.
00:00:16.140 Ten days you're just laying there.
00:00:18.480 You end up peeing yourself. 0.98
00:00:22.200 They wanted to cut my head off and kidnap me. 0.99
00:00:26.360 You become a robot.
00:00:27.320 You become, they program you because you know no different.
00:00:30.660 People that have lost, friends that have lost through suicide and also through serving.
00:00:37.100 Was there any one of them where you relive quite a lot in your own mind?
00:00:40.440 One that you constantly think about?
00:00:42.320 Yeah, yeah.
00:00:43.880 It's hard to talk about.
00:00:47.040 So one person said, my father is here because of this man.
00:00:50.380 So my guest today is a former sniper, Sergeant Craig Harrison, who at the time, he had the
00:01:00.080 longest shot, ranged 2,475 meters, using a Lapua Magnum 338, which anybody that's broken
00:01:08.640 his record since then has used a .50 cal.
00:01:10.980 And he's got a fascinating story.
00:01:12.440 Here's a man that is an expert at taking people out, 80 plus confirms.
00:01:17.780 But at the same time, you got a person that's strong, experienced war, Afghanistan, done a
00:01:24.040 bunch of different things.
00:01:25.280 At the same time, he talks about the effects of PTSD.
00:01:30.240 He talks about the effects of what it did to him in his personal life, on what it is to
00:01:34.580 be a soldier experiencing those things.
00:01:36.140 So the moment I heard about his story, I watched so many different comments, and one of the
00:01:41.100 videos when I watched his story, I went and read the comments at the bottom of how many
00:01:44.700 people said direct.
00:01:45.720 He says, one guy commented, and he said the following.
00:01:48.000 I want to set this whole thing up so you know who you're about to hear from.
00:01:51.960 One of the comments was the following.
00:01:53.540 It got me emotional when I was reading this comment.
00:01:55.600 One guy said that Craig saved my brother's life in Afghanistan.
00:02:01.740 He's a gentle, loving human being.
00:02:03.160 I'm so sickened to know that he has been released from active duty.
00:02:06.040 Another person said he gave everything, his whole life.
00:02:08.380 He literally gave his life for his country.
00:02:11.000 He broke his brain, and it took him, you know, all this stuff that he goes through.
00:02:14.220 One person said, my father is here because of this man.
00:02:17.100 So you're hearing from someone who is loved, admired, and adored.
00:02:22.420 With that being said, Craig, thank you so much for making the time for being a guest on
00:02:25.660 Valuetainment.
00:02:26.640 No, it's glad to be here.
00:02:27.800 Glad to be here.
00:02:28.420 So, first of all, you know, typically in situations like this, what's your reaction when people
00:02:33.800 say to you, thank you for your service?
00:02:35.300 How do you process that when somebody says, thank you for your service?
00:02:39.780 How do I act with that?
00:02:41.800 I just say I've just done my job.
00:02:43.520 I've just done my job.
00:02:44.300 You know, it's something that I joined when I was 16 years old, straight from school,
00:02:50.140 because it's different American army to the British army.
00:02:53.500 You can join when you're 16.
00:02:55.260 And I did a year's training, and I just, you know, done my job.
00:03:02.560 And I didn't expect to achieve what I achieved in my service, you know.
00:03:07.820 And when people say, you know, thank you for your service, I appreciate that.
00:03:12.000 And it's heart-touching, you know.
00:03:14.360 Got it.
00:03:14.800 But it's not something where, in your mind, you go to, I wish I would have never served
00:03:20.180 because I didn't know what the life was going to be.
00:03:22.160 Do you ever personally go there?
00:03:23.940 You know, because diplomatically, we can tell people, yeah, it was, you know, anytime, no
00:03:27.700 problem.
00:03:28.340 But in your mind, do you go to, man, it's a rough life, man.
00:03:33.140 It's not for everybody.
00:03:34.180 Maybe half the things I saw, I wish I would have never seen.
00:03:37.000 Do you ever go there?
00:03:38.560 Yeah, all the time.
00:03:39.600 All the time.
00:03:42.000 I always say, people daydream.
00:03:44.980 You know, they always daydream about holidays and happy things.
00:03:48.520 I daydream about other things.
00:03:50.760 And that's where I go to my dark place and the demons appear and stuff like that.
00:03:55.500 And that's what I try and fight with.
00:03:57.080 Till today?
00:03:58.780 Still today, yeah.
00:04:00.000 Are those events declining or is it still the same pace?
00:04:04.120 Yeah, same pace.
00:04:05.360 And what are some of the things you daydream of?
00:04:07.180 Is it individuals?
00:04:08.580 Is it settings?
00:04:09.500 Is it events?
00:04:11.060 Is it visuals?
00:04:12.860 Is it a loss of a person, a friend?
00:04:15.340 Where do you daydream?
00:04:16.340 Where do you go?
00:04:16.940 It's a mixture of things.
00:04:18.040 It's a mixture of scenarios that I've been in, close death scenarios that I've been in,
00:04:24.820 stuff that I've witnessed through my sniperscope and not be able to take this shot,
00:04:30.880 but just observe the devastation that people do.
00:04:34.320 Um, and just people that I've lost, friends that I've lost through suicide and also through
00:04:45.140 serving, you know, on tours, everything that, everything just, yeah, it's emotional.
00:04:51.300 It's emotional.
00:04:52.880 How do you cope with it?
00:04:54.060 What's your mechanism on coping with it?
00:04:55.700 Is it a prayer?
00:04:56.960 Is it music?
00:04:58.420 Is it exercise?
00:04:59.720 Is it being around dogs, animals, music?
00:05:02.280 What, what is your route?
00:05:03.120 What, what is your method?
00:05:05.060 Uh, two things.
00:05:06.120 One is being around my wife. 0.96
00:05:09.320 Um, she is my absolute rock, my stone, you know, and secondly, I go to the gym a lot,
00:05:16.400 um, and just lose myself for that hour or two hours.
00:05:20.780 It's nice to lose yourself, you know, and not think about things and just lose yourself
00:05:26.580 in your music and your workout and, but also to come home, knowing you've got a wife
00:05:31.940 to support you as well.
00:05:33.360 I think that's a major thing.
00:05:35.660 Powerful.
00:05:36.140 Do you listen to Lose Yourself by Eminem while you're working out or no?
00:05:39.920 No, it's called, uh, Rob Bailey and the Hustle Standard.
00:05:42.860 Got it.
00:05:43.400 Okay.
00:05:43.740 So, so you go a complete different, I thought you said lose yourself.
00:05:46.880 You're sitting there hyping yourself up to Eminem.
00:05:49.140 Um, but why don't we go back?
00:05:50.340 So 16 years old, you go in.
00:05:52.220 Do you think 16 is the right age for a kid to join the military?
00:05:55.560 You think that's the right age?
00:05:57.200 No, no, not at all.
00:05:58.920 What do you think is the right age?
00:06:00.260 I think 18 years.
00:06:01.760 Okay.
00:06:02.100 Got it.
00:06:02.540 18 years old, 18 years old, have a bit of life experience before you join, you know,
00:06:08.360 um, straight from school, you become a robot.
00:06:11.620 You become, they program you because you know, no different, you know, no different
00:06:15.700 about civilian life, about getting a job, about money or anything.
00:06:20.880 You just join the army straight away and that's when they program you.
00:06:24.660 And that's when they start, you know, till you're 17 and then you join the regiment
00:06:29.340 and they start programming you even more.
00:06:32.680 When you went in, let's just say, let's go 15 years old.
00:06:35.120 If I'm in high school with you, who were you at 15?
00:06:38.640 Well, say again, sorry.
00:06:39.720 If I was in school with you at 15 years old, you and I are buddies, we're classmates.
00:06:43.500 Who were you in school at 15 years old before joining the military?
00:06:48.660 Um, quiet, alona.
00:06:51.840 Uh, didn't, I had one friend, um, he's my cousin and we're still good friends now.
00:06:56.720 You know, I've known my cousin since I was like five years old and we're still very tight
00:07:01.780 and we luckily to go to the, we luckily went to the same school and we hung out and, um,
00:07:09.320 yeah, a bit of a loner.
00:07:10.240 I spent more of my time around animals, to be honest with your horses.
00:07:14.860 I've been riding horses since I was five years old.
00:07:17.600 And instead of, you know, going to school, doing, doing my work, doing my homework and
00:07:25.580 then concentrate on horses, you know, and that's, that was my life.
00:07:30.580 That was my upbringing.
00:07:31.980 Do you notice that being a trend amongst the best of the best of the best snipers out there
00:07:36.440 where their personality is a little bit of a loner where they're to themselves?
00:07:40.620 Is that a commonality or not necessarily?
00:07:42.420 Yeah, it is.
00:07:43.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:43.640 Okay.
00:07:44.300 Yeah, you, you, you, you can cope with situations much better, you know, being a loner.
00:07:50.480 You can stay in a position longer because you're low, you're used to being alone, you know,
00:07:57.880 and you work with your number two, who's close with you and he's right next to you all the time,
00:08:03.780 but you don't talk.
00:08:04.960 You know, you get so connected with each other, he knows everything that I'm going to do and
00:08:10.900 I know everything he's going to do, you know, and that's how connected you are.
00:08:15.880 And just to be quiet and be with yourself, yeah, it's, it's a special art.
00:08:25.420 It's an art.
00:08:26.020 I bet.
00:08:26.640 What's the longest you, you've had to be quiet in the position, not moving?
00:08:31.280 What's the longest you went?
00:08:32.340 Uh, one and a half weeks.
00:08:36.000 How long?
00:08:37.400 One and a half weeks.
00:08:39.560 In Afghanistan.
00:08:40.920 You're not moving or standing up, walking, nothing?
00:08:44.200 No.
00:08:44.620 Ten days you're just laying there.
00:08:47.020 Yes, correct.
00:08:48.100 How are you eating?
00:08:49.200 How are you peeing?
00:08:49.940 How are you...
00:08:51.200 Um, you end up peeing yourself. 0.80
00:08:53.620 Um, you defecate in a, in a Tupperware jar.
00:08:56.880 So basically you roll over, your number two will put it underneath you.
00:09:01.060 You, you defecate in it.
00:09:02.680 He wraps it up.
00:09:03.460 You put it in your backpack. 0.50
00:09:04.860 Um, you dig a trough between your legs. 0.72
00:09:07.640 And then when you pee, it sort of like goes down the trough.
00:09:11.520 So it doesn't hinder you.
00:09:14.080 Um, you eat dry food all the time.
00:09:17.360 Because you don't want to cook.
00:09:18.580 You don't want smoke to give your signature away or anything.
00:09:22.700 So you eat cold food.
00:09:24.440 And you catnap through the day.
00:09:26.100 So you'll, he will, he will be on the scope.
00:09:28.720 You catnap for 20 minutes.
00:09:30.400 And then you swap and change.
00:09:32.360 And things like that.
00:09:33.740 Craig, one and a half weeks.
00:09:35.860 So for one and a half weeks, you guys are not talking.
00:09:38.780 You guys are not communicating.
00:09:40.120 Nothing.
00:09:40.520 Everything is nonverbal and you're laying there.
00:09:44.460 That's correct.
00:09:45.200 Yeah.
00:09:45.420 The only, um, time you get to speak is when you send sit reps on the radio.
00:09:49.720 Just to make sure that, you know, everything's going okay.
00:09:53.320 Um, and you're sending, um, sit reps all the time on what the enemy's doing all the time.
00:10:00.280 So that's the only time you get to speak.
00:10:02.320 How special was this assignment where it required you to be that patient?
00:10:06.620 Was this a special assignment in Afghanistan?
00:10:08.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:10.580 Um, to stop the, um, Afghans getting weapons. 1.00
00:10:14.380 Um, this village we were looking into, um, the, the Afghans were getting really, um, 1.00
00:10:20.180 a lot of weapons systems into this village.
00:10:22.580 And then they distribute it, um, around Afghanistan once it gets into this village.
00:10:27.980 So our job was to, um, gather lifetime information of what's going on, find out who the main people
00:10:36.420 are and, um, eventually take them out.
00:10:39.640 Did you eventually complete your mission on this, on this, in this case?
00:10:42.460 Yeah, we did.
00:10:43.020 Yeah.
00:10:43.380 Yeah.
00:10:44.100 And this was one target or was it multiple targets?
00:10:47.380 Multiple, multiple.
00:10:48.720 How far were they from you where you're situated at?
00:10:51.620 The closest was about 675 yards.
00:10:54.360 And the furthest was about a mile away.
00:10:57.080 So 675 yards, that's seven football fields away from you, the closest.
00:11:02.200 Yeah.
00:11:02.740 And, and where are you?
00:11:04.240 Are you on top of a mountain?
00:11:05.640 Are you by trees?
00:11:06.740 Are you in the desert?
00:11:07.740 What's the situation like?
00:11:09.000 What we used, we had these, um, these cam nets and basically these cam nets, if you turn
00:11:17.500 them one way, they keep the heat in.
00:11:19.960 If you turn them the other way, they keep the heat out.
00:11:22.460 So we managed to cut a big section of this cam net to, to cover ourselves up.
00:11:29.120 And, um, we were on a ridge line, so we're quite high up elevated, looking down into the
00:11:33.840 village.
00:11:34.140 Um, but we had support to our, um, left, um, of major weaponry, but they didn't get involved.
00:11:43.860 It was more of a sniper op than anything else.
00:11:46.620 How many, how many people was it that you took out on this one?
00:11:48.720 How many, uh, uh, what was the number?
00:11:51.280 13.
00:11:52.580 Oh, wow.
00:11:54.300 Got it.
00:11:55.140 So this, so from the moment you knew it was ready, the, the week and a half goes by, the,
00:12:01.760 the 13 confirms, what is the timeline from the first kill to the 13th one?
00:12:09.020 Jeez.
00:12:09.720 You're talking.
00:12:11.640 It all depends where they are at the same time.
00:12:13.900 Um, it was funny because they had a, um, a big heavy machine gun called a, a GAC 17 and
00:12:22.800 it's an anti-aircraft gun and it holds, um, clips of 30 mil rounds.
00:12:29.280 And there were only four in Afghanistan that, that, that the, um, Taliban had and the SAS destroyed
00:12:38.880 two, um, in theater and then there were still two out there and they had one in this village.
00:12:46.100 So as soon as we took the first target out, they, they had a rough idea where it came from,
00:12:52.640 the, the, the, from the noise and, um, they opened up with this ASG 17 and took the whole
00:13:01.460 bridge line out, um, you're talking probably four meters in front of us.
00:13:07.600 It was just, it was all splashing up.
00:13:09.620 We were getting shot at.
00:13:10.640 We just kept our heads down.
00:13:12.020 We didn't move or anything.
00:13:13.640 And then at the nighttime, we, we've drew out that position and we went into another position
00:13:21.420 because we were, you know, worried that we had been seen, um, or being compromised.
00:13:27.160 But, um, you're talking 13 people with probably within a space of, um, within them 10 days.
00:13:37.140 Oh, I got you.
00:13:38.060 So, so it's not like you're sitting still and then on the 10th day, one shows up, boom,
00:13:43.020 boom, boom, boom.
00:13:44.320 It's not that.
00:13:45.080 That's not the, the, no.
00:13:46.860 Okay.
00:13:47.220 If I had an opportunity to take the target out and it's called having green guns. 0.52
00:13:51.260 You say, yeah, you've got a green light, you've got green guns.
00:13:54.140 You can take the target out.
00:13:55.580 Um, you can, um, eliminate what you, you, what you perceive to be the threat at the time. 0.93
00:14:04.260 But as a sniper, your main role is, everyone thinks of being a sniper, your main role is to shoot people.
00:14:11.800 It's not.
00:14:12.660 It's to gather lifetime information of the battlefield.
00:14:16.660 Yeah.
00:14:16.980 And so when you go in, you get as much information as possible on that surrounding area.
00:14:22.980 And then you go back, you hand all your information over and they say, right, then this is what,
00:14:28.720 this is how we're going to, you know, this is how we're going to play this out.
00:14:32.920 You know, and then you go back into your position and you start taking targets out.
00:14:37.360 Craig, what were the main places you were deployed in?
00:14:39.580 I know it's a lot of Afghanistan I hear about, but what are the places where you deployed at?
00:14:44.760 Um, I've been deployed in Bosnia, Kosovo, um, Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:14:50.000 Are all these places you were deployed, you have a confirmed kill in all these places or no?
00:14:55.960 No, Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:14:57.720 Got it.
00:14:58.100 How difference was Iraq and Afghanistan for you when you were deployed?
00:15:02.840 It was funny because in Iraq, um, they were, it was more urbanized.
00:15:10.840 You know, you're talking about Basra city, um, and big, big built up areas.
00:15:17.520 Um, so you're talking, you got a hunt, um, then down by your urban.
00:15:23.000 So you're in buildings, you know, and some days.
00:15:28.100 The gates of hell would open, you know, and some days it'd be all quiet.
00:15:33.600 And in Afghanistan, you're talking about, it's more desert.
00:15:37.360 Uh, you, they, they have compounds and they have little villages, but nothing built up like Iraq was. 0.99
00:15:44.580 Got it.
00:15:45.400 Got it.
00:15:45.740 And Kosovo, Bosnia, was that between 97 to 99?
00:15:49.220 Was it right?
00:15:49.720 That's correct.
00:15:50.100 Yeah.
00:15:50.220 Got it.
00:15:50.760 Yeah.
00:15:50.920 I remember that.
00:15:51.880 Uh, I was in the army when, uh, the, the, everybody was getting deployed to Kosovo, Bosnia.
00:15:56.280 Uh, and it was a mess that, uh, at that time, but, uh, going back to the 2,475 meters, uh,
00:16:02.760 that, that, uh, uh, was that in Iraq or was that in Afghanistan?
00:16:06.860 Afghanistan.
00:16:07.660 That was, was that the same 10 days or it's a different setting?
00:16:11.220 No, that was, um, I did that shot.
00:16:13.860 I did that shot the first three weeks of my tour.
00:16:18.380 So I was, I was there for you.
00:16:21.080 When you go on tour, you get, um, sort of like, um, used to the heat and all that before
00:16:27.840 you get dispersed out to your operations.
00:16:31.000 Um, so as soon as I got dispersed out to my operations within three weeks, I took that
00:16:36.060 shot, which I didn't know I broke the world record.
00:16:38.900 When did you know you broke the record?
00:16:40.860 Who told you that somebody whispered to you or?
00:16:43.780 No, no.
00:16:44.380 When I, when I came back to, um, England, we, we have a medals parade, like you get your
00:16:52.740 ribbons and all that to say, welcome home.
00:16:55.560 And the, the media is welcoming to the camp to interview you and talk to you.
00:17:01.720 Um, and, um, I spoke to this gentleman and I said that, you know, I was a sniper, also
00:17:09.060 a sergeant in charge of these guys.
00:17:11.420 And he said, can you tell me a story?
00:17:13.100 And I told him the story of my shot.
00:17:15.440 And he said, do you realize you broke the world record?
00:17:17.800 You beat Rob Furlong's record, the Canadian guy, um, by, you know, a long way.
00:17:23.760 And I went, no, I didn't.
00:17:24.920 And when it went into the papers, that's when we, me and my wife got death threats and we
00:17:31.720 had to go in hiding for three years.
00:17:34.240 Oh, because they put it in the papers and you don't, as a sniper, you definitely don't want
00:17:39.580 that.
00:17:40.520 No, it was my wife's name, my daughter's name, my dog's name, where I lived, where I was born,
00:17:46.740 where I was raised up, everything, everything was in the papers.
00:17:50.220 And funny enough, my wife said, I've got a bad feeling about this.
00:17:53.600 I've got a bad feeling about this.
00:17:55.660 And everyone just kept saying to her, you know, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine.
00:18:00.400 And then, um, I, there was another clip in the paper because of the two guys that I shot
00:18:07.240 were Taliban leaders.
00:18:10.100 Um, they wanted to cut my head off and, um, kidnap me and, uh, to, just to, um, teach me 0.89
00:18:17.940 a lesson.
00:18:19.980 And so what did you guys have to move just to make sure you were safe?
00:18:23.020 Did you go to a different place so they couldn't, uh...
00:18:25.740 Yeah, we, we went into secure housing and then we moved to America for three years.
00:18:30.800 Just for that one event.
00:18:31.820 And this is two people you took out, right, at this event.
00:18:34.100 It's, uh...
00:18:34.760 Yes, it is, yeah, two people.
00:18:36.060 And the 2,475, for, for some people that maybe can't visually see what, that's about
00:18:41.880 a half, half a mile we're talking about, right?
00:18:44.680 Just over a mile and a half, yeah.
00:18:46.020 Just over a mile and a half is what we're, that's right, a mile and a half is what we're
00:18:48.500 talking about.
00:18:49.460 So, so, two there, 80 total, 13 in that one Afghanistan.
00:18:54.360 What was the biggest difference between the first kill versus the last one?
00:18:59.140 First, uh, confirmed kill versus the last one.
00:19:01.160 Was there a big difference emotionally where the last one is like, you know, boom, it's
00:19:06.500 a job, I'm moving on.
00:19:07.500 The first one you're like, oh my gosh, did I do, you know, what was the biggest difference
00:19:11.400 for you?
00:19:12.760 That one you, when I first, um, when I first got a first shot and, you know, and onto my
00:19:26.340 target, you feel like you're in trouble.
00:19:29.220 You feel like you're in trouble.
00:19:30.340 You think, Christ, I've killed someone, you know?
00:19:33.600 Um, somebody's going to tap me on the shoulder and say, you know, can we have a quick word
00:19:37.640 of you, you know, why did you do this?
00:19:40.380 Why did you do that?
00:19:41.540 Because I didn't know, you know, it was my job at the time.
00:19:45.600 And, and then you don't get blasé, but you sort of get into the rhythm of things when
00:19:51.720 you're taking targets out.
00:19:53.100 You don't look at them as human beings.
00:19:56.080 You just look them at as, as, as the job, the operation that you need to do to take that
00:20:02.520 target out.
00:20:03.180 Is, is there any one of them that you had to do where there were, uh, uh, the, it was
00:20:08.340 so technical because there were kids involved and you have to try to get the target that
00:20:13.600 you had, uh, uh, in a climate where there are kids around.
00:20:16.860 And the only reason I think about this, I think about it from the movie, you know, the movie
00:20:19.900 with, uh, uh, yeah, where I interviewed his wife.
00:20:24.380 I had her on Taya and you know, that one scene where there's kids is like, Oh my gosh, how
00:20:28.980 do I do it?
00:20:29.480 What do I do in this angle?
00:20:30.320 Was there ever a, you know, situation like that, that you were in?
00:20:34.480 Yeah, there was.
00:20:35.400 Yeah.
00:20:35.720 In, um, in Iraq, um, in, in Basel itself, where it was in a place, um, a little place
00:20:43.140 called the Pijok.
00:20:44.380 And there was only, um, like 12 of us at this location and it is a police station basically.
00:20:52.560 And every time, every night, the insurgents used to come up and try and break into the
00:21:00.100 prison to release all the people in the prison.
00:21:03.020 So our job was to take the insurgents out, but from 11 o'clock at night or five o'clock
00:21:09.300 in the morning, it was like the gates of hell.
00:21:11.620 So when you, when five o'clock comes, the marketplace opens and then you get everyone, it's really
00:21:19.840 busy, you know, but you can still see your targets.
00:21:23.160 So you end up tracking them.
00:21:24.820 You end up tracking them.
00:21:26.160 You end up observing.
00:21:27.520 You end up, um, finding out where they go, where they hold up.
00:21:31.680 And when the night comes, you're back on that target and where they are, and you end up
00:21:36.320 taking that target out.
00:21:39.180 It's wild.
00:21:40.000 Just thinking about it, you know, on that war.
00:21:42.100 Was there any, any one of the 80 that you afterwards, minus the first one, because it's
00:21:49.260 the first one you were experiencing.
00:21:50.420 Was there any one of them where you relive quite a lot in your own mind?
00:21:53.860 One that you constantly think about or no?
00:21:56.720 Yeah.
00:21:57.260 Yeah.
00:21:58.140 It's hard to talk about.
00:21:59.280 So there is, there is something that in your mind, it goes back.
00:22:03.080 And is it more about something where I should have done it this way?
00:22:06.680 I should have done it that way.
00:22:07.660 Or was it just a setting that, uh, you keep reliving?
00:22:16.020 Just, just the whole scenario.
00:22:21.820 I should have done it different, you know?
00:22:23.660 Got it.
00:22:25.220 Yeah.
00:22:25.620 Because I mean, I think about like, you know, in the, in a sport, a boxer, okay.
00:22:31.320 Like right now, Wilder lost to Tyson Fury, which by the way, you sound like if I close
00:22:35.360 my eyes, I'm thinking I'm talking to Tyson Fury.
00:22:37.640 And you know, I don't know if you guys know each other, if you guys have met or not, or
00:22:40.600 you know, but, uh, so Wilder win, loses, right.
00:22:44.540 And he loses second time.
00:22:46.460 And he could have won this one, right?
00:22:47.840 He could have won this one because the couple, one knockout, the other one, let's just say
00:22:52.220 he slipped, but knockout.
00:22:54.200 So the coaches afterward have to mentally get him back in the state.
00:22:58.840 Many, many boxers, when they lose something like this, like when Foreman lost, he was in
00:23:02.960 depression for three years and somebody goes and works with them, with these athletes,
00:23:06.660 right?
00:23:06.840 The same thing happens in sports, you know, basketball, you missed the shot and you were
00:23:10.820 supposed to win the game.
00:23:11.920 And everybody was relying on you or election.
00:23:14.380 You have to concede, call the other person and say, well, congratulations to you.
00:23:17.800 And Hillary Clinton having to call Trump or something like that. 0.78
00:23:20.600 I mean, this stuff is public humiliating loss, right?
00:23:25.200 When you, when you're going through this, what, what is the program they have to coach,
00:23:33.700 counsel the sniper after they had an experience?
00:23:37.400 Who did you guys go talk to, to calm you down?
00:23:40.880 Was there anybody?
00:23:41.480 No, listen, it took me on that, my last tour of Afghan, I got blown up. 1.00
00:23:50.760 Also, I got, I got my helmet here.
00:23:53.720 I got shot in the helmet.
00:23:55.260 So I got shot there and it came out there.
00:23:59.240 Wow.
00:24:00.180 And it knocked me out for about 20, probably 20 seconds.
00:24:04.980 I was clean out.
00:24:05.720 And that was an AK-47 short round.
00:24:09.120 And that got shot at probably a hundred yards, if that, and it knocked me clean out.
00:24:15.340 And then three weeks after that, I got blown up by an IED, a 30 kilo anti-tank mine, hit
00:24:21.120 my vehicle, which I broke both my arms.
00:24:23.780 I got a brain injury, my hips are knackered, everything.
00:24:29.680 And then, um, I was put back to England and then six weeks later, they took the casts off
00:24:42.080 my hands, made me do 10 press-ups and redeployed me back into Afghanistan.
00:24:48.780 And then when my tour finished, I didn't feel right up here.
00:24:52.160 You know, when my tour finished, um, I did 23 years in the British army and it took me
00:25:00.680 half an hour to get kicked out, to say goodbye.
00:25:04.680 No thank you, no good service, no nothing.
00:25:08.980 They just, just kick you out.
00:25:11.200 They kicked you out for what?
00:25:12.340 For, uh, PTSD, uh, adjustment disorder, uh, and also my injuries, my injuries.
00:25:19.900 23 years and took them half an hour.
00:25:21.500 So, how, how do you feel, how do you, in your mind, how do you feel about the, the way they
00:25:31.600 handled it?
00:25:32.240 How do you feel about, uh, the military itself?
00:25:35.900 Is it more your frustration is towards an individual or the entire institution as a whole?
00:25:42.200 You know, where is your biggest frustration with?
00:25:46.040 Just the, how the army treat people with PTSD.
00:25:50.560 Um, and how they go about treating it.
00:25:54.100 Don't get me wrong.
00:25:55.520 My, I have a friend now who's suffering and he's still serving.
00:25:59.140 He's, he's in the process of getting discharged.
00:26:01.860 And, um, what they've offered him, the regiment is fantastic.
00:26:06.840 But when I, you know, eight years ago, uh, it was no, nothing like that.
00:26:12.940 It was just, you get kicked out the regiment, you get palmed off onto, um, like a sick regiment
00:26:19.320 where they look after all the wounded and injured soldiers.
00:26:22.840 And then from there, they sort your discharge papers out and you, you're gone.
00:26:28.300 You know?
00:26:29.340 Did they give you a hundred percent retirement?
00:26:31.080 Is it a hundred percent?
00:26:32.660 No.
00:26:32.680 Fifty percent?
00:26:33.300 No, thirty percent.
00:26:34.120 Thirty percent retirement on 23 years.
00:26:36.920 Yeah.
00:26:37.300 So not even a hundred percent disability, any of that?
00:26:39.660 They didn't give you any of that?
00:26:41.240 No, thirty percent.
00:26:42.360 It's kind of weird because in U.S. they started doing a hundred percent on things like this
00:26:46.540 and they were not at one point, but thirty percent.
00:26:49.280 So what did you do after being a sniper?
00:26:51.840 How do you make your money?
00:26:53.120 I mean, on your resume, you say, hey, I'd like to get a job here.
00:26:56.160 What are you great at?
00:26:56.900 I'm great at taking people out, two thousand, you know, what do you go do?
00:27:00.720 Do you become a manager or something?
00:27:02.000 What is, what, what job qualifies you to go and say, I'm qualified to do this job?
00:27:07.960 I'm lucky.
00:27:08.720 I work for a company at the moment that, um, understand about PTSD and understand.
00:27:14.800 And I'm probably the third, fourth person that was in the military, sort of like being discharged.
00:27:23.660 And they're really good.
00:27:24.660 And I just work in a factory, basically.
00:27:26.920 I work in a factory and that's all I do now.
00:27:29.520 And I sit at my bench making parts for machinery and that's all I do.
00:27:36.600 And it's, it's my, it's, it's mind numbing, but it's, it's a job and I'm lucky to have a job.
00:27:42.800 And I'm lucky that this company is taking me on and they looked after me and I appreciate that.
00:27:47.320 Well, good for them, man, for doing that.
00:27:48.780 You know, the, the companies that do things like that, uh, uh, I, I spoke to a group in
00:27:53.840 Dallas who were former paratrooper, Navy SEALs, Delta, you know, all the main ones, Ranger,
00:28:00.840 all the big ones in the U S that we have.
00:28:02.620 Right.
00:28:03.440 And these are sharp looking guys like you, sharp guys, strong guys, and having a hard
00:28:09.280 time getting a job, then a hard time getting a job after the career, because what do you
00:28:12.360 see on your resume?
00:28:13.060 You know, although some of them like a sniper, I can imagine a sniper, are you a math guy
00:28:18.240 or no, are you somebody that's good with numbers?
00:28:19.920 I'm assuming you have to be as a sniper, right?
00:28:21.580 Cause the whole thing is math and angle.
00:28:23.720 Yeah.
00:28:23.920 But since I've, um, got a TBI, um, little things that stress me, I get stressed a lot
00:28:31.060 lately, you know, I get, um, frustrated with myself cause I can't do much like I used to
00:28:37.120 like, um, this November I'm, I'm having my hips replaced, you know, so I won't be able
00:28:44.360 to go into the gym.
00:28:45.120 So that's more stress and more frustration with me, you know, but the, the, going back
00:28:51.960 to the army, the army is getting much better at how they're dealing with things.
00:28:56.600 The British army and the way they're handling it.
00:28:58.720 Yeah.
00:28:59.720 Nowadays they're getting much better.
00:29:01.600 You know, I think they're learning by their mistakes.
00:29:03.800 You can't go back and reapply for a hundred percent.
00:29:07.120 Um, I did, you know what, I went for a tribunal and, um, I walked in and it was all done by
00:29:16.040 video link cause I was in America at the time.
00:29:18.480 So I had to go to Baltimore to do a video link to England.
00:29:22.200 And, uh, the, the woman judge said to me, she looked at me and she goes, well, Mr. Harrison,
00:29:28.040 you seem a very capable young man.
00:29:31.360 And that was it.
00:29:32.280 And it was got, he got pushed out of court.
00:29:37.120 Yeah, I lost it.
00:29:38.160 I lost my tribunal.
00:29:40.120 I don't, I don't understand that part.
00:29:42.580 You know, a guy gives, uh, more than half of his life to your country, puts his life on
00:29:47.220 the line, gets shot up on, get, you do it.
00:29:49.380 It's all these things that people are just not willing to do.
00:29:51.980 And then, all right.
00:29:53.420 Hey, thank you.
00:29:54.100 Awesome.
00:29:54.820 All the best to you.
00:29:55.480 Good luck.
00:29:55.820 Here's 30%.
00:29:56.040 That part.
00:29:57.340 I don't get, uh, there were certain situations in the U S army where guys left and they had
00:30:03.740 scenarios, obviously not as extreme as yours.
00:30:06.380 And they left at 30%.
00:30:08.000 15 years later, they went back and applied.
00:30:10.120 They got the a hundred percent 15 years later, but during that 15% that we're not getting
00:30:13.460 it.
00:30:13.600 So I'm curious to know if, uh, if, uh, the British army will ever consider doing that.
00:30:18.120 Let me, let me ask a different question in regards to yourself.
00:30:22.560 When you're in there, you're, you're looking at the Taliban as enemies.
00:30:27.620 You're looking at these guys as enemies.
00:30:29.940 Now that you're disconnected from it and you're, you're, this is not your day to day stuff.
00:30:34.440 How do you view, uh, both, uh, folks in Iraq, Afghanis and the Taliban?
00:30:41.420 Obviously I'm asking this question because the last 60 days, 90 days, you know, the world's
00:30:46.480 turned upside down in Afghanistan with the way America left.
00:30:49.420 And there's a lot of different conversations around it.
00:30:51.340 But how do you view from personal experience, Afghanistan, Iraq and the Taliban?
00:30:57.620 Um, I don't want to get too political about it, but it's, um, it's hurtful.
00:31:03.160 It's hurtful.
00:31:03.940 You know, you put in Afghanistan, for instance, 20 years of infrastructure that the Americans 0.99
00:31:09.440 have put in, the English have put in, we pulled out, the Americans put more, more, more in 0.95
00:31:14.480 there.
00:31:14.820 And then it just went wrong.
00:31:17.580 It just went wrong.
00:31:18.380 And to know that I've lost people out there, to know that I've coming back to England and
00:31:27.220 I've had friends commit suicide because of Afghanistan, it makes you angry. 1.00
00:31:33.520 It makes you angry.
00:31:34.560 And it makes you angry towards, towards the government really, that they haven't done much
00:31:41.020 more to defend it.
00:31:42.080 And not even an apology, not even a, I do believe that in our local papers out here, they had,
00:31:50.380 um, mothers of, um, sons that have been killed out there wanting an apology of the prime minister
00:31:58.520 and, um, which they never got, you know, never got.
00:32:03.300 I understand it's their job and that's how a job out there to do a job, you know, but
00:32:08.120 it's like doing a job and you've come away with nothing really.
00:32:14.560 Yeah.
00:32:15.020 I mean, and that's gotta be especially, uh, uh, uh, more personal to you because you, you
00:32:21.740 put a lot of your, uh, uh, deployment there, uh, for somebody who's never had direct dealings
00:32:27.100 with the Taliban.
00:32:27.680 They don't, all they know is what the news says, you know, one channel says they're evil
00:32:32.340 people.
00:32:32.800 Another channel says they're changing.
00:32:34.400 One channel says they're marrying 11 year old girls, grown 40 year old men are marrying
00:32:40.340 11 year.
00:32:41.060 And you know, you should read these stories and there's no way in the world this can be
00:32:44.340 true.
00:32:44.580 This has gotta be, there's no way the world's going to allow things, these types of things
00:32:48.060 to happen.
00:32:48.760 Another publication says, no, that's true.
00:32:50.520 That's exactly what's happening.
00:32:51.540 What was your direct experience on how these folks are, are they as evil as, uh, we read
00:32:58.540 about in many different publications?
00:33:00.940 Yeah.
00:33:02.880 In my eyes, in my eyes, I, I not, yeah, they're, um, a different breed, different breed, you 1.00
00:33:11.360 know?
00:33:11.740 But I feel like you said that you've heard that they need to change.
00:33:16.960 I think they need to change.
00:33:18.280 They need to change to get the Afghan people on side. 1.00
00:33:21.600 So, you know, so things need to change for, for the better, not for the worst.
00:33:27.540 You think they will, you think, you think the Taliban will change? 0.97
00:33:32.460 I think they, they will just put a smoke screen up to say, you know, we're going to do this.
00:33:38.360 We'll promise this.
00:33:39.060 We'll promise that.
00:33:40.240 Or it will go all quiet.
00:33:41.740 And then, you know, they've done what they've done.
00:33:48.280 Um, it's a sad situation, man, seeing what's going on over there.
00:33:51.820 Um, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a hard thing to talk about.
00:33:54.920 Hard thing to talk about.
00:33:55.580 I bet, especially for somebody like you.
00:33:58.220 Yeah.
00:33:59.420 Uh, last couple of things here before we wrap up, you know, uh, what is the biggest difference
00:34:04.440 between, you know, you using a Lapua Magnum, you know, the 338 versus a 50 Cal when you're
00:34:10.180 shooting something that far?
00:34:11.280 What is the level of difficulty using a 338 versus a 50 Cal?
00:34:16.920 A 50 Cal can go four Ks.
00:34:19.740 So that can go, that can go up to three miles.
00:34:23.020 It can go in a straight line, you know, and, and it's designed, it's a bigger round.
00:34:28.060 Mine's only a small round.
00:34:29.800 Like I said before, my rifle was only meant to go 1500 meters.
00:34:34.020 That's the, the max distance of my rifle.
00:34:36.840 So you have to calculate that, that, the, you have to calculate, I mean, this is pure
00:34:43.960 geometry, right?
00:34:45.060 If you have to calculate the incline and the decline, uh, uh, wow.
00:34:50.640 So if you, so if you shoot a bullet, say for instance, at a hundred meters, you shoot a 0.57
00:34:57.020 bullet.
00:34:57.340 Now that bullet would go flat.
00:34:59.000 That bullet will stay flat up to 300 to 350 meters.
00:35:02.520 But just for, just for argument's sake, if it did rise up, that bullet did rise up, the
00:35:09.380 highest point of that bullet will be three quarters.
00:35:12.580 So it'd be at, um, 70 meters would be the highest point of that bullet.
00:35:18.560 And then it would start dropping.
00:35:20.080 So a mile and a half thousand yards, highest point would be 700.
00:35:25.800 So it starts dropping.
00:35:27.260 So you've got to work it out where it's going to drop.
00:35:29.180 And, and how many tries did it take for you to hit this target, the mile and a half?
00:35:34.440 Well, in the morning, um, I saw that there was a dicker, um, a guy with an icon chatter,
00:35:40.240 uh, radio.
00:35:41.600 Yep.
00:35:42.500 And, uh, I saw the glint, the antenna and I can see the Taliban where I was waiting to 0.99
00:35:51.140 ambush the patrol going in.
00:35:52.740 So, uh, took nine shots to get there, to hit the compound wall.
00:35:57.900 And I was bracketing, it's called bracketing, where you fire the first shot and you go, okay,
00:36:02.220 lift it up a bit more.
00:36:03.700 Yeah.
00:36:03.980 But what everyone forgets, I was stood up when I fired these shots.
00:36:08.700 I wasn't lying down.
00:36:10.600 I was lent against the wall.
00:36:11.940 Is there a difference?
00:36:14.960 Um, it's, it's harder because you've got the recall, the going back, you know, the wall
00:36:22.900 kept crumbling.
00:36:24.160 You got the undulating of the ground as well.
00:36:27.020 It was just a nightmare, but yeah, I, I managed to bracket in one round, hit the compound wall
00:36:33.380 and then the dicker's head went down and I had an interpreter with me who had a radio tuned 0.69
00:36:40.040 into the Taliban frequency.
00:36:42.340 And he said to me that the Taliban are blind now because they can't see what's going on.
00:36:50.660 So that was, that was roughly about 11 o'clock in the morning.
00:36:55.020 I did that shot.
00:36:56.520 And then when I, when I took these other guys out, it was roughly about one o'clock.
00:37:04.260 The contact lasted for about two hours.
00:37:06.500 Standing up, you, I guess the word I would use is calibrated, but you're saying bracketing.
00:37:15.820 So, and that's, that's insane to be thinking about that.
00:37:20.340 And, and a weapon that only goes 1500 and you went, you know, that's, uh, another thousand
00:37:26.520 meters more than that.
00:37:27.640 Do you have a favorite weapon yourself from over the years?
00:37:31.680 Um, that rifle's good.
00:37:33.840 That rifle's good.
00:37:34.440 It's a solid rifle.
00:37:35.260 You know what I mean?
00:37:36.680 And it's proven to do the job and it does the job well.
00:37:39.580 And it's got a lot of stopping power as well.
00:37:41.780 Do you still go to the range today or no?
00:37:44.320 No, I don't know.
00:37:45.160 We don't, I, cause my PTSD, they're quite strict in England about shooting.
00:37:49.220 But when I was in America, I used to go to the range all the time.
00:37:51.920 Oh, so it doesn't, it doesn't bother you if you go, even today, if you were to go, you,
00:37:55.020 you would have gone if, if, if they allowed you.
00:37:56.780 So it's funny really, because in America, they, if you've got PTSD or you've got some sort of
00:38:02.360 stress from the army, they say, instead of going to the cinema, instead of going for lunch,
00:38:08.160 let's go to the range.
00:38:09.960 And you see, everyone just goes to the range and has a good time blowing rounds and all that.
00:38:15.260 So not really.
00:38:16.480 It doesn't, sometimes it does, you know, when I look for a scope, I get like a little sharp
00:38:21.740 image sometimes and I shake it off and then there's a crack on, you know, but yeah, but
00:38:29.160 I don't, I don't shoot anymore.
00:38:30.560 Do you watch any of the movies?
00:38:31.740 Are you a guy that watches any military movies or no?
00:38:34.420 No, no, I end up critiquing it and that can't be right.
00:38:39.440 No, that's wrong.
00:38:40.740 No, that's wrong.
00:38:42.180 You know, have you seen anything that was very like, you're like, that's the closest thing
00:38:47.180 I've seen that.
00:38:47.680 Yeah.
00:38:47.780 That was somewhat believable.
00:38:49.400 Anything you've seen.
00:38:50.240 There's a British film called Kajaki.
00:38:52.480 Kajaki.
00:38:53.580 Yeah.
00:38:54.020 That's a good film.
00:38:55.200 And that's, that's like the most accurate depiction of what it looks like.
00:38:59.940 It's nothing to do with snipering, but it's to do with.
00:39:04.420 A patrol in a post in Iraq.
00:39:08.720 And that's, that's, I would say, yeah, that's more like it was like.
00:39:12.680 Got it.
00:39:13.500 And, and do you have any kids?
00:39:15.700 I don't know if you have any kids or not.
00:39:17.460 I've got two daughters.
00:39:18.840 Two daughters.
00:39:19.400 Okay.
00:39:20.180 If you had a son and he's thinking about joining the military to be a sniper, what would
00:39:25.020 you tell him?
00:39:26.620 Get a trade.
00:39:29.260 Get a trade?
00:39:30.020 Join, yeah, join the engineers, you know, join something where you become a carpenter.
00:39:36.780 You've got a bricklayer, you know, a battle engineer when you can drive all these machineries
00:39:41.720 and everything.
00:39:42.360 So when you do come out, the armed forces, because they don't look after you when you
00:39:46.140 come out, you've got something to fall back on.
00:39:48.340 And like you said, these special forces guys can't get jobs, you know, I'm lucky.
00:39:54.520 But if you as an engineer and you left with all your licenses, you can drive big Arctic
00:39:59.720 lorries and you can build a fence, you can build a wall, you're made.
00:40:03.960 So that's what I would say to my son.
00:40:06.100 Got it.
00:40:06.420 And to anybody else that's joining the military sniper, do you look at the job of a sniper
00:40:12.800 as a, you know, admirable thing?
00:40:15.600 Like, oh my gosh, you know, this person's a sniper.
00:40:18.620 Is that how you look at it?
00:40:19.440 Or are you kind of like, like, I know what it is to be a sniper.
00:40:21.680 I lived that life for 23 years.
00:40:23.540 There is, it's not a life you want to live.
00:40:25.760 Where do you go yourself when you think about it?
00:40:28.380 They say in the army, you do trades.
00:40:31.220 So you do, a sniper will be a trade, a paratrooper will be a trade.
00:40:38.920 And I say snipering is a curse.
00:40:43.980 Yeah, because it scars you, it scars you.
00:40:47.820 What a perspective, man.
00:40:49.260 Snipering is a curse.
00:40:51.540 So to wrap up, Craig, book, Longest Kill.
00:40:56.460 Can you take a moment and tell us about the book, The Longest Kill?
00:40:59.500 Yeah, well, I wrote the book because I wanted to put people right about the shots
00:41:06.580 because I think the Americans did something on YouTube
00:41:09.700 where they had me lying down and everything.
00:41:12.680 I just wanted to put everyone right.
00:41:14.440 But I just couldn't do one chapter in the book.
00:41:17.260 So I did it about my life story.
00:41:19.800 You know, when I was a child, my childhood, you know, which was good.
00:41:23.720 And then from there, joining the army, joining the Fallen Legion, doing prize fighting.
00:41:30.880 Just things that I'd done.
00:41:32.640 Prize fighting?
00:41:33.360 You know, yeah, I did prize fighting for a while for money.
00:41:37.920 About the wrong place at the wrong time.
00:41:39.860 How was that?
00:41:40.480 How was the experience of prize fighting?
00:41:42.940 Painful.
00:41:44.180 I bet.
00:41:45.580 I bet.
00:41:46.160 Yeah, you just, you did it for money.
00:41:48.000 You did it for money.
00:41:48.640 I met this person that I knew and he introduced me to it.
00:41:53.700 And so I did it for a while.
00:41:56.180 And then you sort of, yeah, you become a bit painful after a while.
00:42:03.180 So you sort of give it up.
00:42:05.120 Who do people say you look like?
00:42:06.320 I got two people I think you look like.
00:42:08.080 I'm curious to know what you say.
00:42:09.720 Who do people say you look like?
00:42:10.980 Anybody or no?
00:42:11.780 Is it Matt Dillon?
00:42:15.080 Well, I can see that one.
00:42:16.280 100% I can see that one.
00:42:18.060 But I got a combination of two cats.
00:42:20.260 And by the way, people that are watching this, say yes or no.
00:42:22.500 If it doesn't make any sense, say, Pat, give it a thumbs down.
00:42:25.800 If it makes sense, give it a thumbs up.
00:42:28.120 But I see a Conor and a Dan Bilzerian.
00:42:31.880 I don't know if you know these two characters.
00:42:33.340 Maybe you know Conor McGregor.
00:42:34.480 You may know him.
00:42:35.160 Yeah, I do.
00:42:35.920 But Dan is a different guy.
00:42:37.000 And they're both, obviously, these are studs that we're talking about.
00:42:43.900 But interesting life you've lived, man.
00:42:46.280 Very, very interesting life you've lived.
00:42:48.280 And I appreciate you coming out here.
00:42:49.880 We're going to put the link to your book below for folks to be able to go pick up as well.
00:42:53.340 But more than anything else, just listening to your story and still doing your best to have this attitude and going about your life.
00:43:00.640 And to have your wife in your life where you're calling her, you're rock and exercising, that is a form of losing yourself for that hour or two in the gym.
00:43:12.320 It's honorable to hear a man that's served and is willing to talk about it and is as humble as you are.
00:43:18.260 I appreciate you coming on and being a guest on Valuetainment.
00:43:20.420 I really enjoyed this time with you.
00:43:22.500 Thank you.
00:43:23.020 I appreciate talking to you.
00:43:23.980 Anytime, brother.
00:43:24.520 Take care of yourself.
00:43:25.660 Thank you.
00:43:26.140 Thank you very much.
00:43:27.460 Let me put it to you this way.
00:43:28.620 Every time I do an interview, the guys that are here, I ask them, so tell me what you think about it.
00:43:32.600 We were all speechless by his story.
00:43:34.880 That's all I can tell you.
00:43:35.920 And I don't know about you.
00:43:36.860 I'm curious to know what you took away from this because I'm sure you were also speechless.
00:43:40.300 A week and a half with your partner not moving, nothing.
00:43:44.080 Could you do that for a week?
00:43:45.980 Imagine a job where you have to lay there as a grown man or a grown woman for a week and a half.
00:43:51.960 Blown away.
00:43:52.980 If you like the interview, give us a thumbs up and subscribe to the channel.
00:43:55.860 And if you like this, I did an interview also with another sniper who had 33 confirmed kills.
00:44:01.140 I believe he was the first African-American sniper from a unit.
00:44:06.020 You need to hear a story.
00:44:07.320 Fascinating story.
00:44:08.000 He got a couple million views.
00:44:09.440 And it's another one of those stories where you're going to be flabbergasted by his life of a sniper.
00:44:14.460 So if you've not seen that, click over here.
00:44:15.820 Take care, everybody.
00:44:16.540 Bye-bye.
00:44:16.780 Bye-bye.
00:44:16.840 Bye-bye.
00:44:17.780 Bye-bye.