Valuetainment - August 08, 2026


“Expected More” - Tucker Carlson Drops a 10-Point America Plan


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23 minutes

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5,128

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436

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00:00:00.000 Tucker Carlson does a video announcing his 10-point plan, okay?
00:00:04.920 And when we see this 10-point plan, you know, I'm expecting a, you know,
00:00:10.360 call-out, you know, very specific, unique, what's going to happen with it.
00:00:15.120 And all of a sudden you go through it and articles come out that the 10 points,
00:00:21.160 what the 10 points are about, I mean, we can't really play the whole clip,
00:00:23.920 so I think it's about an hour and a half.
00:00:25.340 But let me read to you what the 10 clips are, 10 points are,
00:00:28.920 and I'll read them to you one by one by one, okay?
00:00:32.340 Point number one, be fair, okay?
00:00:35.660 One set of rules for everyone, presidents, billionaires,
00:00:38.560 intelligence agencies, and ordinary Americans should be held, same law.
00:00:43.100 So point number one was about Epstein, okay?
00:00:46.140 Number two, is sovereign.
00:00:48.520 America should make decisions based on American interests,
00:00:51.360 foreign governments, foreign lobbies, corporations,
00:00:53.260 and wealthy donors should not dictate fair.
00:00:55.660 That's about AIPAC, Israel.
00:00:57.000 That's what he was talking about.
00:00:57.960 Number three, productive. 1.00
00:00:59.840 America needs to make things again, rebuild manufacturing, agriculture,
00:01:03.460 skilled trades, domestic production,
00:01:05.720 rather than relying primarily on finance speculation.
00:01:08.420 Okay.
00:01:08.880 Number four, beautiful.
00:01:10.780 That's literally number four.
00:01:12.240 Beautiful.
00:01:13.500 A, make American cities and communities beautiful.
00:01:16.480 Again, reduce crime, graffiti, public drug use, and decay.
00:01:22.400 Build places Americans are proud to live in.
00:01:24.320 Okay, he's talking about that when he goes to Russia.
00:01:25.980 He was amazed by the, you know, buildings and all of that.
00:01:28.620 But the guy that's running it right now is a real estate guy who knows how to make things better than you because he's a real estate guy.
00:01:33.640 He knows how to make properties beautiful.
00:01:35.900 Next, number five, healthy.
00:01:37.580 Americans should become physically and mentally healthier, improve the food supply, encourage sobriety, and question American dependence on prescriptions.
00:01:44.340 So he was kind of defending what RFK was doing and going against Anthony Fauci, so the enemies he's choosing.
00:01:48.900 Six, honest.
00:01:50.580 The government should stop lying to its citizens,
00:01:52.500 reduce unnecessary government secrecy,
00:01:54.360 and release important historical information,
00:01:56.980 including the recording surrounding JFK, 9-11-K.
00:02:00.480 That was the same thing in a previous one.
00:02:02.340 Seven, optimistic.
00:02:04.020 Build America around the next generation.
00:02:05.920 Encourage marriage, children, strong families.
00:02:08.340 Tucker's argument is that civilizations survive
00:02:10.300 when people believe their children have a better future ahead.
00:02:15.540 Okay, future looks bright.
00:02:16.820 Optimism, I'm with it.
00:02:18.440 Eight, wise.
00:02:19.840 Education should teach reality rather than ideology.
00:02:22.820 Teach practical skills, trade history, and fundamental truths about human nature.
00:02:27.120 All right.
00:02:27.780 Nine, decent.
00:02:29.080 America should behave morally overseas.
00:02:31.260 Avoid unnecessary wars.
00:02:32.780 Acknowledge.
00:02:33.520 Okay, non-interventionist.
00:02:35.340 Ten, united.
00:02:36.960 Protect American social cohesion.
00:02:38.560 Tucker proposes stopping immigration while America determines what artificial intelligence will do American jobs.
00:02:45.760 So he's against a lot of these data centers being built.
00:02:49.220 Vinny, when you watched it, was there anything where you were like,
00:02:52.140 this is amazing, this is awesome, he's going places,
00:02:55.200 and what do you think the motive of that video,
00:02:57.880 of I'm dropping the 10 points and meeting with MTG, Joe Kent,
00:03:01.940 Marjorie Taylor Greene, what do you think is going on here?
00:03:03.380 Pat, I thought number 11 was going to be hold hands and sing Kumbaya.
00:03:07.140 No, no, and I'm not, with all due respect.
00:03:09.340 I'm with you.
00:03:10.220 You understand what I'm saying?
00:03:11.340 Because think about it.
00:03:12.100 You see that right there.
00:03:14.080 You see this dinner.
00:03:15.120 This is a message, okay?
00:03:16.280 Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, Massey.
00:03:18.740 And is it crazy?
00:03:19.440 An hour before this plan or anything was announced, I said, guys, who here would be the president,
00:03:25.700 vice president, secretary of state, and who would be secretary of defense?
00:03:29.620 And I was like, you know, Tucker probably president, Joe Kent, sec def.
00:03:33.140 No, think about it.
00:03:33.720 Marjorie Taylor Greene or Massey, who would be the vice president?
00:03:37.220 But, like, when you have this major announcement, and I was wondering, like, this is a nothing
00:03:44.240 burger pat absolutely nothing burger because here's the thing i agree with some of the things
00:03:47.820 on the list what's the plan what legislation are you proposing who's leading it how are you
00:03:52.760 going to pay for it look if you think about it i told you i'm like like these are basic all it is
00:03:57.600 was basic adjectives followed by things tucker believes listen you have a bunch of people sitting
00:04:03.040 at a table right now who have made money from the political world doing absolutely nothing to help
00:04:09.520 their neighbor all right with all their money and they're looking all nice and cozy at their table
00:04:15.180 that girl lives in some other country that person they travel in private jets they don't deal with
00:04:21.440 the american people the stuff that he was talking about for most part it was like common sense
00:04:25.920 you imagine we live in a society right now where you have to teach adults how to live
00:04:29.680 i mean i gotta teach you how to live i gotta do what this or you we have greatest laws in our
00:04:34.380 country just follow the law be a good person and leave everybody alone these people are dictating
00:04:39.880 sitting at the head of the table over there that dude right there who talks for this person then
00:04:44.640 he's against this person they don't have integrity my friend because if you say something i like this
00:04:49.400 color tucker has integrity at the end of the day he's owned by someone and something i'm not owned
00:04:56.480 by anybody but god bingo all right if warner brothers doesn't want to hire me because i voted
00:05:01.180 for trump i don't want to work with you that's why i started gratwick my studio that you can
00:05:05.660 download things like that i'll find another way maybe i won't do the a movies but i'll do the
00:05:10.240 a movies 10 years down the line what i'm saying i back up what i'm saying 100 i don't go and
00:05:15.260 apologize these people make money on other people when they when they ever help our country when
00:05:22.060 these people ever help anyone you think tucker stands a chance in 2028 as a president no you
00:05:29.000 think he will run uh if it's good to sell books if it's good for his career i mean these are
00:05:33.880 selfish people with very big ego do you think you you think about that cross like do you feel the
00:05:39.080 same way about ben shapiro as well like all of them every one of them so it's not just you're
00:05:42.680 not isolating tucker no democrats listen i ran for office and i realized something i was fighting
00:05:47.740 for a cause i was the first celebrity to say trump is my guy then i spoke at the rnc about
00:05:52.360 jesus and everything and everybody all my agents and everybody blacklisted me we're no one i
00:05:56.400 represent you you're sick to us all right fine i'll create my own life i'll go and work in
00:06:00.480 construction i'll create my own life i'll move out of the country whatever i gotta do to survive
00:06:04.420 for me and my kids okay i got balls so i back it up but you guys over there sitting down over there
00:06:10.000 like all these people left and right they don't do anything for our country our country is going
00:06:14.760 into the trash can we have the most unhealthy people in our country we have the fattest people
00:06:20.120 in our country we have the worst food in our country people don't exercise anymore they talk
00:06:24.740 about exercising but now they're on peptides drugs you have to be drugged to lose weight we're living
00:06:29.440 in a society right now where it used to be 50 years ago america was the greatest country in the
00:06:33.860 world 12 year olds and 13 year old kids used to train do push-ups love our country the flag god
00:06:40.800 this and that what do you got now you got internet people looking like we're the baggy pants and
00:06:45.460 going you know what i want to vote for this i want to vote for that everybody free let everybody in
00:06:49.320 our country let's trash our people i mean there's no integrity what i'm saying and i'm saying that
00:06:54.660 where are the people like you guys that back it up all the way?
00:06:57.440 Even if you're wrong, you back it up all the way.
00:07:00.200 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:07:01.220 Tom, where do you stand with what you sell?
00:07:03.700 First of all, if you don't mind, because you and I will analyze
00:07:07.220 and we'll talk and say, what do you think he's going to talk about?
00:07:10.200 What did you think he was going to talk about,
00:07:11.860 and did it match what you thought he was going to talk about?
00:07:14.000 No, I thought this was a big buildup to like some Super Bowl halftime show
00:07:18.680 that I, Tucker Carlson, with my reach, with my audience,
00:07:22.940 which are significant. Credit. I thought he was going to come out with a real platform about what
00:07:29.120 it meant to be an independent party. That's what I thought. This had a lot of feeling in it.
00:07:34.980 Optimistic, wise, decent. I'm like, wait a minute. It's the liberals that throw out the feeling
00:07:40.180 in a speech with no program attached to it, with no policy attached to it, with no platform.
00:07:45.780 I was very surprised by this. I thought it was simplistic. And I was looking for more
00:07:51.740 considering the build-up.
00:07:54.100 Adam, your thoughts.
00:07:56.160 So I'm not going to do what everybody thought I was going to do
00:07:58.880 and just completely freak out on Tucker Carlson right here.
00:08:01.680 So I'm going to bring some stats and some facts,
00:08:04.280 and you guys can fact-check me.
00:08:06.240 Number one, Tucker Carlson, he was a registered Democrat for 20 years.
00:08:11.580 20 years.
00:08:12.500 Okay.
00:08:13.100 Okay?
00:08:13.940 Nothing wrong with that.
00:08:15.440 But I just thought that would be a good thing.
00:08:18.680 Every single person that he's in in that picture.
00:08:20.520 You know his reasoning.
00:08:21.740 He says, I did that because I lived in D.C., and it was more of a strategic thing, not because I was a Democrat.
00:08:28.180 He'll say that.
00:08:28.660 Yeah, that's like me saying, hey, listen.
00:08:29.800 And he said he needed access as a reporter.
00:08:31.980 Yes.
00:08:32.240 I get it.
00:08:32.760 That's like also me saying, I'm straight, but all I do is go to gay clubs because it's way easier to pick up chicks.
00:08:37.340 But you've been doing that for years.
00:08:38.460 You've been doing that for years.
00:08:39.000 BBD, that was your thing, bro.
00:08:41.140 It worked like math.
00:08:42.980 That's my point.
00:08:43.660 Connection Nashville tennis app.
00:08:44.660 So you're proving my point, sir.
00:08:46.520 But his collection of what I would call crew of rejects.
00:08:49.780 And I don't mean that in a bombastic way.
00:08:52.760 Every single person that he was having dinner with,
00:08:55.740 Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent,
00:08:58.460 they've all been rejected by MAGA.
00:09:00.920 Now you want to talk stats, 2024, two years ago,
00:09:04.200 Tucker's net favorability within MAGA was plus 54.
00:09:09.240 Now it's just above neutral.
00:09:11.360 And I give so much credit to the MAGA people out there.
00:09:14.400 They're like, yeah, you switched up, bro.
00:09:16.900 If you're going to switch up, that's fine.
00:09:19.020 but at least give a valid reason as to why now the last point with this crew of rejects and
00:09:23.780 him switching up this this 10 point plan which i i thought anthony fauci had the weirdest diary
00:09:30.520 this seems like a diary thing three things that i have a problem with honesty optimistic and united
00:09:37.400 honesty he lost all credibility with me when he did that interview with with the new york times
00:09:43.060 And she goes, you've called President Donald Trump the Antichrist.
00:09:47.260 I never said that.
00:09:48.580 I would never say that.
00:09:49.820 Roll the tape.
00:09:50.840 Is this the Antichrist?
00:09:52.120 I think it may be.
00:09:53.260 All right.
00:09:53.580 Well, do you not know how the Internet works, Tucker?
00:09:56.000 We could just roll the clip from two weeks ago.
00:09:58.460 Number two, optimistic.
00:10:00.340 Listen, future looks bright all around us.
00:10:02.800 Anytime I watch, Tucker, it's the sky is falling.
00:10:05.480 Russia's better than us.
00:10:06.900 Government's going to take over.
00:10:08.120 That doesn't seem like a very optimistic approach.
00:10:10.540 And the last thing, united.
00:10:12.120 you could say you're united but respectfully one of the most divisive characters in politics today
00:10:18.960 and in commentary today is none other than tucker carlson that's my issue yeah so to me i was
00:10:24.720 expecting more i think you know you could have gone specific with affordability and actually
00:10:29.640 hit hard with a plan here's like let me put it to you this way uh imagine like how simple it is
00:10:35.560 we're going to put more money in your pocket and this is why if i become president there is no tax
00:10:40.900 on tips. How easy is it
00:10:42.980 to transfer to somebody else?
00:10:44.480 If I take any of these 10 points
00:10:48.760 and I ask you, go transfer
00:10:51.080 that at dinner tonight with
00:10:52.860 three of his policies, there's nothing to do.
00:10:54.740 So now he may come back and say, guys, I'm not
00:10:56.940 running. You guys are like getting
00:10:58.540 this twisted. I'm just giving you what
00:11:00.820 I think needs to happen to America because
00:11:02.440 some are saying this is happening because
00:11:04.600 they're getting behind J.D. and Tucker
00:11:06.800 has no desire to run. Tucker
00:11:08.660 has said, I will run as long as I get
00:11:10.780 to debate Ted Cruz.
00:11:12.140 I don't know if Ted Cruz is going to be on the stage this year.
00:11:14.380 You think Ted Cruz is going to be one of the candidates?
00:11:16.060 No, I do not.
00:11:17.320 Maybe, maybe not.
00:11:18.260 I don't see it.
00:11:19.020 I see DeSantis.
00:11:20.220 I see J.D., and there's a lot of talks right now behind closed doors
00:11:23.000 that even Rubio may not be running.
00:11:26.060 Like, there's no plans of Rubio running.
00:11:27.700 And even yesterday, there's a story that came up that said
00:11:30.440 Trump is going around asking conservatives to get behind J.D. Vance
00:11:33.700 and support him, and people are like, wait, getting behind J.D. Vance?
00:11:36.620 I thought you were a Rubio guy.
00:11:37.780 Now he's going behind J.D. Vance.
00:11:38.840 So yesterday, a reporter asks the president, hey, what is all this stuff with J.D. Vance?
00:11:43.540 Look how quickly he interrupts the person.
00:11:45.460 Watch this here.
00:11:46.060 Go for it.
00:11:46.760 There's a report that you told donors that they need to get J.D. Vance elected in 2028.
00:11:51.900 Is that your official endorsement?
00:11:53.940 No.
00:11:54.480 I heard about it a little while ago.
00:11:57.060 I think he's great.
00:11:58.480 But we're way too early to even be thinking about that.
00:12:02.480 Okay?
00:12:03.480 That's the right answer.
00:12:04.600 That's the right answer way too early to be thinking about.
00:12:06.520 Yeah, because he's got two years and he's got to run his country.
00:12:09.980 And then two years, we'll see.
00:12:11.540 But also two years from now, it's going to be a whole different story.
00:12:13.780 Every day is changing this country.
00:12:15.060 Who knows what's going to happen next week?
00:12:17.140 But the fact of the matter is that after two years from now, our president is not going to run.
00:12:21.840 I'll change it.
00:12:22.480 I agree.
00:12:23.300 What are they going to worry about?
00:12:24.320 I agree things will change.
00:12:25.420 But what will not change is J.D. Vance will be the vice president still.
00:12:28.640 And these conversations are going to happen.
00:12:30.280 But you bring up J.D. Vance because I'm speculating.
00:12:32.600 What about if J.D. Vance has a scandal between now and two years?
00:12:35.220 What about if something comes out that he did something to a six-year-old?
00:12:39.060 I'm just saying.
00:12:39.760 Of course.
00:12:40.240 This is political work.
00:12:41.200 What happens if COVID happens?
00:12:42.440 I get it.
00:12:42.900 But he's the vice president.
00:12:44.080 That's all I'm saying.
00:12:44.480 But wait a minute.
00:12:45.580 But don't put your eggs in a basket.
00:12:47.100 That's what I'm saying.
00:12:47.740 Let's get past this one.
00:12:49.380 Here's a part to get past.
00:12:51.220 Do you think this was a presidential election video?
00:12:54.800 Or do you think this was just a rah-rah motivational video?
00:12:57.500 Hey, let's be united.
00:12:59.000 Let's be this.
00:12:59.540 Let's be optimistic.
00:13:00.500 And I'm going to give you a talk of Carlson's message that he gave.
00:13:03.180 You think he's running in 28?
00:13:04.460 I don't.
00:13:05.220 Okay, you think he's running in 28?
00:13:08.520 Percentage.
00:13:08.960 Give the percentage.
00:13:09.700 What are you at?
00:13:10.100 5%, 10%?
00:13:11.160 I'm lower than that.
00:13:12.220 I think.
00:13:12.580 You're lower than 5%.
00:13:13.520 He's not running.
00:13:13.800 Even if he does, honestly.
00:13:15.920 No, is he running or not?
00:13:17.120 I don't think he is.
00:13:18.100 Less than 5%.
00:13:19.000 Running for what?
00:13:20.060 President.
00:13:21.180 Will he be on the ticket?
00:13:22.960 He knows he'll get smoked.
00:13:25.420 If you pull up Calci.
00:13:26.260 So he doesn't want to lose publicly.
00:13:27.760 Is it 15%?
00:13:28.560 You're saying 15% he's running?
00:13:30.280 10 to 15.
00:13:30.660 Antonio, where are you at with him running?
00:13:31.700 Oh, absolutely he's running.
00:13:32.420 He loves money.
00:13:33.080 His ego is too big.
00:13:34.180 and he's going to run just for the heck of it.
00:13:35.760 I mean, these people run not because they're going to be elected.
00:13:38.360 They run because they want to put themselves elected on a pedestal.
00:13:41.260 You're putting Tucker's running.
00:13:42.760 So you're what?
00:13:43.260 You're 70%, 80%?
00:13:44.620 I'll just put all my chips on the table.
00:13:47.000 Oh, really?
00:13:47.600 All in?
00:13:48.500 Would you vote for him?
00:13:49.880 No, never.
00:13:50.720 Never.
00:13:52.980 I am 40% that he's running,
00:13:56.340 and I think he's seriously considering it,
00:13:58.480 to answer the question concisely.
00:14:00.020 Where are you at, Pat?
00:14:00.580 Okay, I appreciate that.
00:14:01.540 I think I'm at 20%, 30%.
00:14:03.180 Okay, yeah, me and you are coming.
00:14:03.940 And the more and more it goes, remember four years ago, three years ago,
00:14:08.220 I said there's alliances being created, and one of the alliances was Trump,
00:14:11.420 Tucker, and Elon, and Tucker went to X to put his interviews there,
00:14:15.400 and the first 50 interviews he did, all Elon ever did is retweet his interviews
00:14:19.560 and say, very interesting.
00:14:21.420 And those interviews got Tucker from 5 million followers to 16 million followers.
00:14:26.280 Can you go on Tucker's X account to see how many followers he has?
00:14:28.600 I don't know what he has, but he's got to have, he's definitely 10-plus million
00:14:32.460 The last time I checked, it could be much higher than that.
00:14:35.240 He could be in a 15, 16 million.
00:14:37.140 17.8 million.
00:14:38.440 That's presidential type of followers to be able to run.
00:14:41.560 So I put it at 30%.
00:14:42.700 Who does he follow?
00:14:43.660 Just check on the followers.
00:14:44.640 It's himself.
00:14:45.180 It's himself and his –
00:14:46.220 Actually, you gave a warning.
00:14:47.120 Let's just prove my point.
00:14:48.480 Let me say something.
00:14:50.080 Make sure you get your nicotine pouches.
00:14:51.560 Adam, there's something very important that you said, and I'd like to go back to it.
00:14:55.540 If the guys could pull up the clip.
00:14:56.940 But what Pat was talking about, when times get tough and things like this happen,
00:15:01.440 you will be very surprised by alliances that form.
00:15:05.860 And there will be some unusual people that will be picking.
00:15:09.040 These are weak alliances he created.
00:15:10.480 You know why?
00:15:11.040 Let me tell you why these alliances are weak.
00:15:12.540 Nothing against MTG, nothing against Joe Kent.
00:15:14.680 I don't know them.
00:15:15.480 I've interacted with Joe a couple times.
00:15:17.620 One time, 60 Minutes reached out to me.
00:15:20.080 And they said, could you put me in contact with Joe?
00:15:22.060 I reached out to Joe.
00:15:22.900 I said, Joe, these guys are telling me to get in contact.
00:15:25.140 He says, thanks for reaching out.
00:15:26.240 I'm not interested.
00:15:27.040 I've told him a million times.
00:15:28.260 And so, but that's the only interaction I've had with Joe.
00:15:31.020 Now, let me tell you, Massey and I, I've tried to have Massey on many, many times.
00:15:34.520 He is concerned to be an on because he's worried about one question I'm going to ask him.
00:15:38.220 Which one?
00:15:38.540 And, you know, it is what it is.
00:15:41.000 But so, but here's the thing.
00:15:42.960 When you build alliances and you're a Tucker, here's what happens if your alliances you're building are lower than you.
00:15:50.000 You know what you're telling to the world if your alliances are lower than you?
00:15:53.020 What are you telling the world?
00:15:54.260 What is my, I don't know if you understand the question I'm asking.
00:15:56.140 So if I'm trying to build alliances and I'm building alliances of people that are under me,
00:16:03.220 every one of these guys there, he's the alpha, right?
00:16:06.280 The head of the table.
00:16:06.940 So what are you doing building alliances below you?
00:16:08.980 What are you telling the world?
00:16:10.260 I'm the alpha.
00:16:11.660 What you're telling the world is I can carry the weight to the finish line.
00:16:17.240 Okay, so guess what?
00:16:19.460 Who can do that?
00:16:20.920 Trump can do that.
00:16:22.440 Can.
00:16:22.960 All day.
00:16:24.180 He can do that.
00:16:25.860 Reagan can do that, right?
00:16:28.440 Certain names can do that.
00:16:31.080 Like DeSantis cannot do that.
00:16:33.420 DeSantis needs to create alliance up.
00:16:36.060 Trump created alliance down because he's already massive.
00:16:39.800 He was an A-lister.
00:16:40.620 He doesn't need to create all.
00:16:41.580 24, we found out that Obama couldn't.
00:16:43.800 If Tucker thinks for a second that it is I'm the guy,
00:16:49.140 the market's about to decide and say yay or nay.
00:16:51.900 So if he then decides to go up, what they're saying,
00:16:54.860 the reason why the up has not happened,
00:16:56.520 and there's obviously a very close relationship.
00:16:58.400 His son worked for J.D. Vance for a year.
00:17:01.200 So we know J.D.'s a non-interventionist,
00:17:03.580 and he's kind of trying to do this.
00:17:05.200 And you know what's going to happen with J.D. doing this?
00:17:07.060 Do you know what's actually going to happen with J.D.?
00:17:08.240 Rubio's going like this.
00:17:09.900 Boom, I'm here.
00:17:11.240 Rubio's going, no, with this position, I'm here.
00:17:13.280 J.D.'s going like this.
00:17:14.700 And the more J.D.'s going like this,
00:17:16.300 he's going to be a John Kerry.
00:17:17.520 He's going to be a Romney.
00:17:18.520 He's going to be one of those guys that you're going like this.
00:17:20.340 And look, just tell us what you stand for.
00:17:22.460 Let's hash it out and make the argument.
00:17:24.360 You know, I don't think we should have any wars.
00:17:25.980 Awesome, let's debate it.
00:17:27.200 I don't think we should do awesome, let's debate it.
00:17:29.440 Versus, well, you know, a little bit here, a little bit there.
00:17:32.600 That's not going to work out for him.
00:17:33.740 So, to me, if Tucker's taking his position of I'm the alpha
00:17:37.040 and your alliances are below, MTG, Joe Kent, these are not heavyweights.
00:17:41.500 They're not going to give you anything.
00:17:42.800 You already have that base.
00:17:44.300 You need to go, like, you know who needs to be in that room?
00:17:46.700 Let me tell you who needs to be in that room.
00:17:48.380 He needs to have that room be with somebody like a Peter Thiel
00:17:51.980 or a, you know, who's the guy from NVIDIA?
00:17:56.640 A Jensen Wan.
00:17:57.840 Jensen Wan.
00:17:58.220 Or you need to have Sergey Brin.
00:18:00.280 Or you need to have Mark Zuckerberg.
00:18:02.380 Smart. Very smart people.
00:18:03.540 Somebody like that.
00:18:04.480 That's not going to happen right now.
00:18:05.580 That ship has sailed.
00:18:07.120 No, they'll never work.
00:18:07.860 I get you're saying that ship.
00:18:08.880 Two years ago?
00:18:09.860 Yeah.
00:18:10.120 Let me ask you a question.
00:18:11.140 Let me tell you who defended him.
00:18:12.960 Jason from the All In podcast defended him.
00:18:15.640 I think they were roommates in college.
00:18:18.200 One of those guys was Tucker's roommate, literally.
00:18:20.540 Yeah.
00:18:20.700 So let's just move that away.
00:18:22.620 But this is not even like, I don't get that.
00:18:24.740 You think Silicon Valley's going to get behind Tucker?
00:18:26.480 Let me just explain my point to you.
00:18:28.000 What I'm saying to you is Jason Calacanis.
00:18:31.740 Yeah, he does a great job hosting.
00:18:33.420 Those guys are all great.
00:18:34.520 But I tell you, if in that room a Chamat's in the room,
00:18:40.420 if a Jason's in the room, if you have to say,
00:18:43.980 I got the all-in business guys that are in the room,
00:18:46.840 you have credibility.
00:18:47.740 You might get the all-in business podcast from Qatar to show up,
00:18:53.380 but those guys are on Team Mag at this point.
00:18:56.220 Because isn't David Sachs the A.I. czar for Trump?
00:18:58.760 He is.
00:18:59.460 But hasn't Chamath been very complimentary of Trump?
00:19:03.500 Just because David is, that doesn't mean the other guy.
00:19:05.760 Sure.
00:19:06.260 So you know who should have been in that room?
00:19:07.980 That would have been a perfect person in the room, Mark Cuban.
00:19:10.180 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:10.760 He needs to have somebody like that.
00:19:12.860 I see what you're saying, but none of those are people that are going in the room.
00:19:14.800 Yeah, so I honestly, I was expecting, I was actually disappointed.
00:19:19.940 Me and Tucker are obviously not friends.
00:19:21.880 We're not, you know, we're not best of friends and all this stuff.
00:19:23.960 Everybody knows the openly I called him out and he called me out for,
00:19:27.460 I think he said something about Catholic comments I made.
00:19:29.560 And I told him, I said, look, everybody says I'm taking money.
00:19:32.140 You're taking money.
00:19:32.820 Why don't we just do a full-on audit by three different accounting firms
00:19:35.280 that you show me and never got back?
00:19:36.720 Did he respond to that?
00:19:37.380 I said, take every one of my businesses and let's see how many deposits
00:19:42.560 either one of us have gotten from any institution,
00:19:45.440 and let's audit those institutions.
00:19:46.620 Let's go.
00:19:46.920 Let's create a separate account of a half a million dollars.
00:19:49.240 He never got back to me.
00:19:50.120 You called him out publicly.
00:19:51.100 Of course he never will.
00:19:51.720 He didn't even respond?
00:19:52.320 But you have to realize my call-out is not a call-out of rage-baiting.
00:19:56.160 No, not a call-out.
00:19:56.700 It was respectful.
00:19:57.180 It's a great business call-out.
00:19:58.320 That's my point.
00:19:58.920 It was respectful.
00:19:59.540 But where I'm going, as a person who loves the game of debate
00:20:03.840 and competition and ideas, I actually am disappointed
00:20:07.580 that he didn't put a better plan together.
00:20:09.900 But I can tell you why he did that, my friend.
00:20:11.440 You were expecting this and you got this.
00:20:12.800 I wanted to be so good that we are...
00:20:15.960 The guy's above everybody else, Patrick.
00:20:17.780 We're covering this as the first story?
00:20:19.940 Yeah.
00:20:20.220 Because we thought it'd be great, but it was a poor performance.
00:20:21.720 Patrick, you're dealing with a guy that is above everybody else
00:20:25.520 when he wakes up in the morning.
00:20:26.760 The only people that he can work with are people who are dumber than him,
00:20:30.100 lower than him, you understand?
00:20:31.480 He can't work with people who are smarter.
00:20:32.880 Have you ever met him?
00:20:33.440 Have you guys ever interacted?
00:20:34.280 I've been in the same...
00:20:35.120 At Fox, when I used to go there,
00:20:36.420 we used to be around the same people and stuff.
00:20:38.560 But I can see.
00:20:39.420 You know, I can see the guy for who he is.
00:20:42.160 See, Trump is a smart guy, but he also hangs out with people smarter than him.
00:20:46.200 You see what I mean?
00:20:46.760 Because guys like Trump want to learn, want to keep learning.
00:20:50.360 A guy like Tucker doesn't want to learn.
00:20:51.800 He knows it all.
00:20:52.640 So when you know it all and you have people below you, you're going to get a group like this to tell them what to do because they'll do it like sheep.
00:20:59.080 So they're all sitting at the table going, yes, Tucker, you're the smartest guy.
00:21:01.980 You're the king.
00:21:03.100 You know, you're the goat.
00:21:04.160 You're the goat.
00:21:05.220 But there's a goat who goes fishing every day, doesn't even work out.
00:21:08.660 and he's never done a push-up in his life.
00:21:10.460 Listen, he can even walk a mile,
00:21:12.260 but that's the guy who I'm supposed to listen to.
00:21:15.140 And he's a smart guy, but when you show off like that
00:21:17.520 and you don't come with compassion,
00:21:19.460 that's where he is where he is.
00:21:20.720 Look where he lives, in the middle of the woods,
00:21:22.160 away from human beings with animals.
00:21:24.720 Because that's the only people,
00:21:26.100 animals are the only things he can respect,
00:21:27.900 his dogs and he respects animals.
00:21:29.760 Four dogs in his bed.
00:21:30.320 He respects animals more than humans.
00:21:32.400 Come on, and that's that way.
00:21:33.960 I think that was a great thing.
00:21:34.540 I think that was a very good breakdown.
00:21:36.620 Whether some people agree with you or not,
00:21:38.300 I think it's a very good breakdown to say, I like it.
00:21:40.780 It's to say.
00:21:41.380 Look at the dog behind him.
00:21:42.560 Look at the dog behind him.
00:21:44.140 You see what I mean? 1.00
00:21:44.520 That's the queen.
00:21:45.160 That's his queen.
00:21:46.140 The dog photo.
00:21:46.920 Let me tell you, the fact that you found that dog,
00:21:49.620 I know you're good at playing the game.
00:21:51.480 Where's Waldo?
00:21:53.900 Validity to him?
00:21:55.200 Are you ever the smartest guy in the room?
00:21:56.940 I see all the meetings you're in.
00:21:58.060 Yeah, you.
00:21:59.360 Every time I'm in the room, Tom's ahead of me.
00:22:01.980 Well, you also have Vinny there.
00:22:03.540 Tom's gooder than we are.
00:22:05.280 He's kind.
00:22:06.100 As long as Tom's in the room, I'm mad at the smartest guy in the room.
00:22:09.800 Exactly.
00:22:10.300 You're smart enough to know you don't need to be the smartest guy in the room.
00:22:13.360 No, you don't.
00:22:13.760 And by the way, neither is Trump.
00:22:15.260 No, that's what I'm saying.
00:22:16.360 Trump's not the smartest guy in the room.
00:22:17.520 We are officially three weeks away from the VOL conference.
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