Valuetainment - June 23, 2025


“F#ck Scott Storch” - How Christina Aguilera’s TOXIC Feud ENDED Their Hit-Making Collab

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Patrick Bet-David
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Mariah Carey Paul Rosenweig George Martin Steve Perry Kanye Irving Azoff Robert Sterling Whitney Houston Tommy Mottola Derek Jackson Larry Hall Linda Perry Clive Davis Lou Graham Best Buy Lady Gaga Hit Men Christina Jadakiss Beyonce and 3 more
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Length

11 minutes

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175.09

Word count

2,026

Sentence count

240

Harmful content

Misogyny

10

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Toxicity

82

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9

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Summary

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Scott Borchetta is a producer, songwriter, and songwriter who has worked with some of the biggest artists of all time. He s worked with Mariah Carey, Jadakiss, Christina Aguilera, and many more.

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00:00:00.000 Scott, did you ever do anything with Mariah Carey or no?
00:00:02.640 Yes.
00:00:03.200 That was my homegirl.
00:00:03.980 How was she?
00:00:05.340 She's awesome, bro.
00:00:06.480 First of all, we made a song called Side Effects about Tommy Mottola.
00:00:11.040 That was like, and I've worked with her with Jadakiss.
00:00:13.800 I did a song, K-I-S-S-M.
00:00:17.400 Yeah, we did that.
00:00:18.460 But Mariah used to call me and do like crank calls 1.00
00:00:22.920 and like do Jerky Boy's impressions.
00:00:25.000 Yes, this is me, Kissel or Saul Rosenberg.
00:00:28.540 Saul Rosenberg. 0.99
00:00:29.260 She's fucking funny as hell. 0.92
00:00:30.380 She's awesome, bro. 1.00
00:00:31.220 She's the fucking diva. 1.00
00:00:32.880 Saul Rosenberg. 1.00
00:00:34.400 What was the difference between working with someone like her
00:00:36.680 versus someone like Beyonce?
00:00:37.800 Both beautiful, both talented.
00:00:39.320 Bro, I mean, they're both different.
00:00:41.000 One is more country and like more hood and just like real. 0.62
00:00:50.240 She's a diva. 1.00
00:00:51.400 That's Park Avenue right there.
00:00:53.600 Let me tell you, though, Mariah Carey's voice is truly something else.
00:00:58.900 Insane.
00:01:00.000 Honestly, like you got, if we ran a poll right now,
00:01:03.080 what's the greatest voice of all time?
00:01:04.680 You would hear Whitney Houston.
00:01:06.160 Yeah.
00:01:06.900 You would hear Freddie Mercury.
00:01:09.620 Elvis is probably going to be on that list.
00:01:11.780 Steve.
00:01:12.220 Steve Perry is going to be on that list, right?
00:01:14.540 You're going to have.
00:01:14.900 Robert Streisand.
00:01:15.960 I think Lou Graham from Foreigner as well.
00:01:18.800 Oh, my God.
00:01:19.720 I want to know what love is.
00:01:20.740 Yeah, I mean, those guys, 80s for sure.
00:01:23.500 Darryl Hall, you have to.
00:01:27.200 You have to.
00:01:27.860 I'm looking at this list. 0.90
00:01:28.480 Mariah is a beast, bro. 0.87
00:01:29.420 You have to put Mariah on it. 0.56
00:01:31.020 By the way, Lady Gaga's got a voice as well. 0.98
00:01:33.040 But Mariah Carey's voice.
00:01:35.640 Oh, Mario has one of the greatest voices.
00:01:38.200 Christina Aguilera.
00:01:39.080 Yeah.
00:01:39.700 Nah.
00:01:41.060 I got a funny. 1.00
00:01:41.920 She made a song, by the way, called Fuck You, Scott Storch. 1.00
00:01:45.020 Did she? 1.00
00:01:45.700 Yeah.
00:01:46.080 I'll tell you why. 0.99
00:01:47.040 I can tell you that's a funny fucking story. 0.99
00:01:49.620 Irving Azoff fucking special. 0.99
00:01:52.400 Is there any chance I can take a five-second cigarette break and we'll come back and talk 0.99
00:01:56.020 about Irving fucking, they call it the poison dwarf. 0.98
00:01:59.640 Do you ever see that book, Hit Men? 0.99
00:02:02.300 It's about all the early people in music, like the serious moguls.
00:02:12.200 Oh, yeah.
00:02:12.580 You see that.
00:02:13.800 He's one of them.
00:02:17.040 I'll explain that song when I get back, after this advertisement.
00:02:23.840 Five-minute break.
00:02:25.040 Mariah Carey is what we were talking about. 0.99
00:02:26.520 You were telling the fact that Christina Aguilera wrote a song called F-U-S-S, and I think it 1.00
00:02:32.220 means, does it mean what I think it means? 1.00
00:02:35.120 Fuck you. 1.00
00:02:35.780 Fuck you, Scott Storch. 1.00
00:02:37.000 All right. 1.00
00:02:37.740 So tell us how this happened.
00:02:38.980 How did this happen?
00:02:40.700 Okay.
00:02:40.920 I aligned forces with her to make the stripped album, which sold a ridiculous amount of copies.
00:02:53.060 And I did, like, the bulk of the album.
00:02:56.240 And then Linda Perry did some from Four Non Blonde. 1.00
00:03:00.260 I don't know if you know who that is.
00:03:01.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:03.160 Mic a little closer.
00:03:04.380 And I say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:05.600 Yeah, that song.
00:03:06.380 Yeah, that lady, she wrote a bunch. 1.00
00:03:09.000 Yeah.
00:03:09.220 Well, better?
00:03:10.900 That's really cool.
00:03:11.320 There you go.
00:03:12.200 So, yeah, and that album, we killed it.
00:03:18.060 Irving Azov being her manager, guy who started, like, Giant Records and went on to own Live Nation.
00:03:26.100 And he's like, but, you know, there's a famous book called Hitmen.
00:03:32.440 This guy?
00:03:33.540 Yeah.
00:03:33.840 That he's referred to as the Poison Dwarf.
00:03:37.580 And that name is, like, accurate. 0.90
00:03:40.020 How tall is it? 1.00
00:03:40.560 For this fucking guy. 1.00
00:03:42.820 He's one of them guys. 1.00
00:03:44.020 Like, I don't really dog anybody out.
00:03:46.780 I mean, like, Kanye was, like, I'm pissed at him for that.
00:03:49.480 But, like, I'm really, like, I don't really have anything bad to say about anybody.
00:03:54.240 I do with this guy.
00:03:56.140 So, when I went to do the Poison Dwarf. 0.76
00:04:00.660 That's a pretty solid ball.
00:04:01.800 Due to his stature and aggressive, even controversial business.
00:04:04.920 Like, if he's what Kanye's talking about, all right, fine.
00:04:07.520 I get it.
00:04:08.000 No.
00:04:09.080 I know. 0.99
00:04:09.580 That's fucked up. 0.99
00:04:10.820 That's really fucked up. 0.99
00:04:11.700 But, at any rate, this guy, when I went to do this record, they gave me an advance. 0.99
00:04:20.940 I think it was, like, a quarter million, which is a very fair price for me, considering my
00:04:25.220 price tag was 80 per song.
00:04:27.320 I ended up doing seven songs on the album.
00:04:30.420 And, I think, two interludes as well.
00:04:34.280 The record went crazy.
00:04:35.940 It was her biggest album.
00:04:37.060 And, you know, most of the ones, or half of the songs I did became hit singles.
00:04:44.620 At any rate, now it's like, I was living in L.A. at that time.
00:04:51.040 Now I'm living in Florida.
00:04:53.380 So, they called to do the next album.
00:04:59.240 And I was like, you know what?
00:05:01.660 In the spirit of good business, I don't want any increase.
00:05:04.720 Just give me the same thing.
00:05:07.060 My manager calls me at the time, Derek Jackson, and says, Scott, this guy said you were lucky
00:05:14.060 to work with her and be involved in such a big album.
00:05:16.660 Not that I helped make the big album and shape and sound like I'm, like, the core and the
00:05:21.560 nucleus of what it was.
00:05:23.340 But, he said, he's not giving you any advance.
00:05:26.000 You just come to work.
00:05:27.660 And, you're lucky you have the opportunity.
00:05:29.300 I said, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:05:30.280 I don't believe this.
00:05:31.760 I was like, you call him and talk about this stuff.
00:05:33.820 I want to be listening in.
00:05:35.020 So, I'm listening in, and he's, like, going on and on, like, yeah, Scott's lucky to be 0.99
00:05:42.500 involved with singer, like, Christina, and this and that, and, like, fuck Scott, and, you 0.98
00:05:46.720 know, he's just trying to, like, play tough guy with me. 0.99
00:05:49.680 I'm over what?
00:05:50.360 Like, peanuts.
00:05:51.080 Like, 250. 0.99
00:05:51.780 What the fuck is that? 1.00
00:05:52.620 You're going to blow. 1.00
00:05:53.300 You just sold 19 million copies of this shit. 1.00
00:05:55.960 And, like, whatever. 1.00
00:05:57.380 I get my royalties.
00:05:58.580 That's one.
00:05:59.100 But, the actual recoupable producer advance.
00:06:03.820 He was trying to, like, you know, be a goalie with it.
00:06:07.040 And, I was like, okay.
00:06:08.360 So, I'm listening and listening and listening. 1.00
00:06:09.540 And, at one point, he's like, fuck Scott. 1.00
00:06:11.460 And, this and that. 1.00
00:06:12.180 So, I was like, yo, motherfucker. 0.99
00:06:13.400 I'm on the phone, by the way. 0.99
00:06:15.100 And, he's like, here's the deal.
00:06:18.240 I need two million to do the album now.
00:06:20.620 Or, I'm not doing it. 0.99
00:06:21.680 And, you need to send fucking NetJet with a fucking, I think it was at the time, a G4. 1.00
00:06:26.220 And, like, I need the Clive Davis bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel. 0.99
00:06:31.680 And, I need a per diem every day of a thousand for food on top of all this. 1.00
00:06:35.880 And, I was just like, fuck you. 1.00
00:06:37.700 Okay? 1.00
00:06:41.000 Me and Christina were really close.
00:06:44.380 Clive.
00:06:45.740 I have Clive's story, too. 0.99
00:06:47.560 This is like the fucking, you ever see the show, what is it, The Blacklist? 0.97
00:06:54.560 With, like, about the, what was that guy? 0.99
00:06:58.680 But, anyway, he's just like, yeah.
00:07:01.000 And, like, every episode is like, he's going after somebody else.
00:07:04.380 At any rate, this is like The Blacklist today. 0.88
00:07:06.820 At any rate, so, Christina found out about this and this and that. 0.99
00:07:11.800 And, she was just like, fuck Scott, this and that. 0.99
00:07:15.020 You know, I'm going to make the album without him. 1.00
00:07:16.700 You know what I mean?
00:07:17.440 She and I were, like, on the bordering of the romantic side of things. 1.00
00:07:22.460 And, it was like, and it just was just like a lot of, like, crazy shit. 0.97
00:07:27.660 And, this guy got between our relationship creatively and friendship-wise and turned us against each other, basically. 1.00
00:07:36.000 And, yeah, he's a real fucking shitbag. 0.99
00:07:38.100 What's he doing now? 1.00
00:07:39.080 I don't know.
00:07:39.840 He's not in Live Nation anymore. 0.99
00:07:42.760 I don't know what the fuck he's doing. 0.92
00:07:44.100 But, I remember his daughter was, like, the assistant on the album. 0.99
00:07:48.200 She was cool, Allison.
00:07:50.540 But, so, that was the end of it with you and Christina.
00:07:52.980 So, yeah.
00:07:53.600 So, then, the album comes out.
00:07:58.860 And, it didn't go platinum.
00:08:01.980 It went wood. 1.00
00:08:04.040 That shit was, like, a disaster. 1.00
00:08:05.680 She went from, like, 18 million copies to, like, two. 1.00
00:08:09.200 It was something crazy.
00:08:10.680 Yeah, man.
00:08:11.180 And, then, she fell off the map.
00:08:12.760 Yeah. 1.00
00:08:13.140 But, it was included in that a song called Fuck You, Scott Storch. 1.00
00:08:18.200 What's the lyrics? 0.99
00:08:19.120 Can you go to it?
00:08:19.740 I want to know what she says in that.
00:08:21.160 I mean.
00:08:21.660 What is she saying?
00:08:22.580 She basically lists all of the songs in a lyric that we did.
00:08:26.400 I thought I knew who you were.
00:08:27.520 I see how you learned.
00:08:28.820 It was on a bridge.
00:08:30.200 Now, I was the first to believe I made you part of Music Dream.
00:08:32.940 And, your thanks to me came without an apology.
00:08:36.200 We wrote, loving for me.
00:08:38.200 Don't walk away.
00:08:39.020 Can't hold us down.
00:08:39.820 Now, this sounds like you guys have an intimate relationship here.
00:08:43.900 It sounds like a scorn lover.
00:08:45.060 I mean, we used to lay down together at night.
00:08:46.880 It wasn't really that physical or anything.
00:08:48.760 But, like, we became, like, those friends that are, like, teetering on.
00:08:53.720 Like, dry hump. 1.00
00:08:54.480 Making out and shit. 0.99
00:08:55.400 Yeah, I don't know. 1.00
00:08:55.860 Whatever the fuck it was. 0.98
00:08:57.080 But, I don't know. 1.00
00:08:57.660 She was into some weird shit. 0.95
00:08:58.920 Like, when we met and we're making this album, a lot of this music was inspired by. 0.99
00:09:03.160 She was with this guy named, I think his name was George.
00:09:06.800 He was, like, one of the dancers. 0.93
00:09:08.060 And, he was gay. 0.76
00:09:09.040 And, she wanted him to be straight. 0.99
00:09:11.580 And, it was just, like, a fucking weird type of thing. 0.96
00:09:13.400 It's hard to turn that thing around. 0.98
00:09:14.480 Yeah. 0.68
00:09:14.740 Like, I think she was, like, one of those people that, like, tried to turn gay people.
00:09:18.780 Dated her back up. 0.51
00:09:19.260 She wanted that.
00:09:19.760 She wanted a challenge.
00:09:21.020 Mm-hmm.
00:09:21.360 That's tough.
00:09:21.840 Scott, this brings up a very good question.
00:09:23.360 You know, Pat always talks about, if you're building a championship team, right?
00:09:27.440 Mm-hmm.
00:09:27.700 Who's the most important piece?
00:09:29.300 Is it the GM?
00:09:30.200 Is it the coach?
00:09:30.940 Is it the star players?
00:09:31.940 Is it the front office?
00:09:32.640 Right?
00:09:33.140 If you're making a hit record, you have the producer.
00:09:36.860 You have the artist, right?
00:09:38.360 The singer, the rapper, what have you.
00:09:39.620 You have the record label.
00:09:40.700 Here's why.
00:09:41.280 You have the marketing team.
00:09:42.580 There's a gray area.
00:09:43.320 What's the best?
00:09:43.920 That's what you're saying.
00:09:44.520 Yeah. 0.98
00:09:45.700 The role of the producer, who really is the guy that puts the shit together, has changed. 0.89
00:09:53.360 The definition of that word has changed. 0.99
00:09:55.580 Now the producer is some guy who makes a fucking beat and sends it on a CD.
00:09:59.360 Back in the day, the producer, like me, is the guy that sees the whole thing through and makes sure that you have the right writer. 0.98
00:10:06.940 You have the right conviction and emotion coming out of the vocals.
00:10:11.200 You have the guys finishing it.
00:10:12.720 The guy, and he's just a real producer.
00:10:15.660 Back in the day, George Martin was the producer of the Beatles, but he wasn't really making the music.
00:10:21.620 He was just guiding them and putting that special sauce on it of the songs that they did.
00:10:29.380 It's a different thing, but ultimately, the most vital piece of an artist or what's behind the artist, A, is the artist themselves.
00:10:42.720 The manager, I think.
00:10:46.060 The producer, for sure, because he's creating this, setting the tone.
00:10:52.080 And then the guys at the label that know how to sell it, you know what I mean?
00:11:01.320 That know how to sell it.
00:11:02.560 Yeah, they know how to put it in the right places.
00:11:04.960 Hey, what's going on?
00:11:05.780 I'm Scott Storch.
00:11:06.960 And you might have seen me on the PVD podcast.
00:11:09.380 And you might have some questions you want to ask me.
00:11:11.240 I'm available on the Minette app.
00:11:13.660 And you can ask me about pretty much anything, music, industry stuff, you know, my life and my history or, you know, anything, technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques.
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