Valuetainment - June 24, 2025


＂Fat Joe Changed My Life＂ - Scott Storch REVEALS The Shout Out That Made Him Hip-Hop’s TOP Producer


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Length

11 minutes

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Word count

2,026

Sentence count

208

Harmful content

Misogyny

4

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Hate speech

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Summary

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Fat Joe joins Jemele to discuss his relationship with Fat Joe, his early days in the music business, and the beef he had with 50 Cent. Fat Joe also gives his take on the beef between 50 Cent and Kendrick Lamar.

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00:00:00.000 Who was the guy that was with Fat Show back in the days?
00:00:03.720 Big Pun?
00:00:04.440 Not Big, it was with Big Pun.
00:00:05.800 You know, he had this song,
00:00:07.060 this one's dedicated to the ones who never made it,
00:00:09.120 I hate it, the fact you faded away,
00:00:10.620 you were the greatest.
00:00:11.200 That's Pun.
00:00:11.640 Who is that?
00:00:12.240 No, it's not Pun, it's the other guy.
00:00:14.060 Tony Sunshine?
00:00:14.920 No, keep going, you'll say it.
00:00:17.460 Tiger Boy Raul.
00:00:18.700 I say this prayer to never respect you, but to...
00:00:22.020 Part of the Terror Squad?
00:00:23.000 Oh my God, what is this guy's name?
00:00:25.540 It's such a great thing.
00:00:26.740 Not Nori.
00:00:27.800 I'll figure it out who it is.
00:00:29.320 Tony Sunshine.
00:00:29.640 Someone's going to watch this and they're going to comment below,
00:00:31.460 we'll find out who it is.
00:00:32.680 Did you ever do anything with Fat Joe?
00:00:35.480 What?
00:00:37.200 I made some of the biggest records for Fat Joe possible.
00:00:41.620 I did Lean Back.
00:00:43.540 I did Make It Rain.
00:00:46.180 I did a lot of shit with Joe.
00:00:49.160 Joe changed the face of my career too,
00:00:53.100 because I was not putting a tag on my records.
00:00:56.540 I was not like, produced by Scott Storch
00:00:58.960 and shit like that, 0.67
00:01:00.040 but I'm doing every fucking song in the world
00:01:03.120 and Lean Back comes and he's like,
00:01:05.920 Scott Storch!
00:01:07.820 Bro, cheese lines outside my door.
00:01:10.420 That's what he said in the video.
00:01:11.840 Cheese lines.
00:01:12.380 Cheese lines outside a door.
00:01:14.000 Yeah.
00:01:14.900 That's what he said.
00:01:15.740 So you guys were close.
00:01:16.800 You guys...
00:01:17.040 Yeah.
00:01:17.240 Where do you put him?
00:01:20.880 Where do you put him on the list?
00:01:22.260 He's dope.
00:01:23.020 I mean, he's dope.
00:01:24.300 It's kind of like unfair that he's not looked at as even bigger than he is.
00:01:29.820 I mean, people respect him,
00:01:30.760 but being a Latino rapper at some point,
00:01:34.300 it was like a handicap in itself.
00:01:36.800 It didn't matter how fucking dope you were,
00:01:38.540 because motherfuckers were just like... 1.00
00:01:40.180 There's a lot of fucking weird things about the music business.
00:01:43.720 So Fat Joe,
00:01:46.340 I don't know your relationship with him these days,
00:01:48.240 but there's a lot of hip-hop beef.
00:01:50.840 Obviously, it started with Tupac and Biggie and everything,
00:01:53.540 and then Nas, Jay-Z.
00:01:54.640 He's big as a personality now.
00:01:57.780 When you have an opinion, sometimes people like...
00:02:00.400 Well, 50 Cent, I think.
00:02:02.160 Him and him.
00:02:03.060 Who does he have beef with this?
00:02:04.380 50 Cent?
00:02:04.720 He used to.
00:02:05.280 All his fires have been put out.
00:02:06.760 Really?
00:02:07.240 It was Hov and 50. 0.97
00:02:09.900 Now he's cool with all of them.
00:02:11.280 What's your take on just hip-hop beef in general?
00:02:14.580 I mean, the biggest beef of the last year was Kendrick and Drake.
00:02:18.040 Is this manufactured?
00:02:19.320 Is this real?
00:02:20.020 What's your take?
00:02:20.500 This is fucking WWF.
00:02:21.860 You know what I'm saying?
00:02:23.260 But put it this way.
00:02:25.540 There was...
00:02:26.300 I forget who it was.
00:02:27.600 It was telling me,
00:02:28.540 yo, 50's coming at me on some shit. 0.70
00:02:31.820 He's really fucking tearing me up.
00:02:34.340 And apparently 50 called to him.
00:02:36.640 Because he called, he got in touch with me.
00:02:38.080 He's like, why are you doing this to me?
00:02:39.080 He's like, I'm trying to throw you a bone, bro.
00:02:41.280 I'm trying to get you some shine.
00:02:43.200 50's saying this to you?
00:02:44.280 No, to this person.
00:02:45.280 Oh, gotcha.
00:02:45.580 That's the story I heard.
00:02:46.640 I don't know for sure.
00:02:47.760 But he was dissing somebody.
00:02:49.640 And the person that he was dissing called,
00:02:52.940 50, like, why are you doing this?
00:02:54.660 He's like, bro, I'm trying to help you.
00:02:56.820 Like, any publicity is good publicity.
00:02:58.740 Like, I'm giving you a shot.
00:03:00.480 Like, you know what I'm saying?
00:03:01.260 Like, that's what these beefs are.
00:03:03.300 A lot of them were out.
00:03:04.000 Now, these are legitimate beefs, obviously.
00:03:06.960 What do you think is the most legitimate beef?
00:03:08.540 I think, like, Lil Wayne and Birdman had some court stuff going on, suing.
00:03:12.980 What's the realest beef?
00:03:13.920 I mean, yeah, I mean, like, that's a label artist beef.
00:03:17.480 That's not, like, rapper to rapper beef, even though the label was a rapper.
00:03:22.580 Birdman.
00:03:22.780 But there's more, that's family.
00:03:24.300 That's like a father and son.
00:03:26.020 I did a song for these two, for Wayne and Birdman, called You Ain't Know.
00:03:30.360 I'm actually in the video playing piano.
00:03:32.740 It was like we were dressed up like gangsters and shit.
00:03:34.880 Cuban Link is who I was talking about.
00:03:38.060 Do you remember Cuban Link?
00:03:39.500 Oh, yeah, Cuban Link.
00:03:40.080 Yeah, Cuban Link. 0.66
00:03:40.800 Oh, yeah, they had beef.
00:03:42.420 That didn't end right.
00:03:43.820 It was not.
00:03:44.740 It wasn't?
00:03:45.600 No, that was a problem there.
00:03:48.200 But somebody else recently just tried to, like, fuck with Joe and take advantage of him.
00:03:53.300 Somebody that was, like, a hype man for him claimed to be, like, the writer on songs and shit
00:03:58.960 and tried to sue Joe.
00:03:59.880 So, you said Tommy Wattolo earlier.
00:04:03.660 Did you have a relationship with Tommy?
00:04:06.080 That's funny.
00:04:06.800 That house that Diddy, like, lives in, like, I was there to visit Tommy at one point.
00:04:11.540 I mean, he's a legend.
00:04:12.180 The first time I met Tommy, Sony Music Studios in New York, I was, like, a little kid in the
00:04:17.700 roots, like, didn't know what to do.
00:04:18.940 I walked into the wrong lounge.
00:04:21.680 And it was him talking to some, like, Asian guy that probably owned Sony or whatever.
00:04:27.700 And he gave me the dirtiest look, like, he was about to fucking bite my ear off.
00:04:31.980 I was like, oh, shit.
00:04:33.800 And then later down the road, he invited me to come to that house when he first bought
00:04:39.620 it.
00:04:39.820 And he was with Talia.
00:04:41.400 This was right after.
00:04:42.980 She's great.
00:04:44.240 She's great.
00:04:44.900 And the same party place at the edge of that property on Star Island that's, like, a temple,
00:04:51.700 kind of gazebo kind of thing, whatever, it wasn't like that.
00:04:55.060 It was an office outside.
00:04:57.120 And it looked like something that Sosa from fucking Scarface went out.
00:05:01.080 And he's at this sick-ass, probably $300,000 table with a home phone.
00:05:07.100 And, like, it's, like, outside.
00:05:08.760 This whole office is set up outside.
00:05:10.360 And he's, like, doing his thing out there with a cigar, showing me his cars and shit.
00:05:13.880 But, like, whatever.
00:05:17.240 Tommy Batola.
00:05:18.700 Legend.
00:05:19.080 He made a lot of money.
00:05:20.260 For a lot of people.
00:05:21.400 Yeah.
00:05:21.800 And for himself.
00:05:22.920 Yeah, for sure.
00:05:23.760 At the hands of Sony.
00:05:27.220 Come on.
00:05:28.460 Like, there was, like, you know, a lot of people, like, made, like, I mean, if I'm really
00:05:32.260 going to talk, like, motherfuckers, like, they would find a way to take budgets down, 0.74
00:05:41.240 these guys.
00:05:41.820 Like, I'm just being real.
00:05:42.720 So, like, everybody knows this shit.
00:05:45.140 He had a partner, Corey Rooney, that was producing.
00:05:49.560 And it was a crazy story.
00:05:50.760 I'm glad I mentioned that.
00:05:52.280 Okay.
00:05:52.560 I have to go there.
00:05:54.280 If we're on the fucking black list today.
00:05:56.060 Go for it.
00:05:56.600 All right.
00:05:57.120 So, yeah.
00:05:57.580 Like, these guys, they would charge, they would get all the shit.
00:06:02.920 Like, they would eat up all the budgets of, like, the quarterly, like, budget that they
00:06:07.080 would get.
00:06:07.840 You know, Sony Columbia, this, that, the other.
00:06:09.620 One day, I had a house on Pine Tree Drive that I made into a studio.
00:06:18.480 Miami Beach.
00:06:19.380 Yeah.
00:06:19.960 63rd and Pine Tree.
00:06:20.940 I had two studios in there.
00:06:24.860 I had the board from Saturday Night Live, the SSL, or Neve, whatever it was.
00:06:29.480 And I get a call from this guy, Kenny Commissar, who's a big record executive.
00:06:37.700 And he's like, J-Lo wants to come over.
00:06:40.640 I'm like, amazing.
00:06:41.680 I want to work with her.
00:06:42.440 I'm like, cool.
00:06:42.980 Amazing.
00:06:43.360 This is dope.
00:06:44.480 So, J-Lo comes over, but now, it's like damn near a hurricane going on.
00:06:49.800 Power goes out.
00:06:51.580 So, I'm like, oh, yeah, I got this new car.
00:06:53.120 It was, like, the first one in America. 0.83
00:06:54.500 I had the Phantom.
00:06:55.720 And, like, I was like, let's listen to music in my Phantom.
00:06:58.300 Pouring rain.
00:07:00.140 She's loving every fucking thing I'm playing with.
00:07:02.860 She's like, that's the shit. 0.90
00:07:03.980 I remember her hand on my leg, and, like, just, I was like, oh, fuck.
00:07:07.640 J-Lo was sitting in my passenger seat loving my fucking music.
00:07:10.860 Like, I'm a little fucking, like, Jewish white boy from fucking Sunrise and shit.
00:07:15.420 Like, what the fuck?
00:07:16.920 Knob Hill and shit.
00:07:18.120 At any rate, I could hear a knock on my window.
00:07:22.680 I'm like, what the fuck?
00:07:23.640 Kenny's like, Jennifer, we got to go.
00:07:25.680 I'm like, what do you mean we got to go?
00:07:27.120 Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:07:28.200 You brought her here.
00:07:29.160 He's like, no, we got to go right now.
00:07:31.580 15 minutes later, I got a call from him.
00:07:34.160 I'm like, my bro, I'm so sorry.
00:07:36.000 They told me I was fired if I didn't get her out of there. 0.98
00:07:39.160 You want to know why?
00:07:40.860 Because there's only so many songs and the budget on these albums,
00:07:47.440 and I was taking away real estate in that little game that these guys had going on
00:07:53.800 that took Sony out for 200 and changed a million.
00:07:57.200 I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro.
00:07:59.680 This is all real talk.
00:08:01.300 But, yeah, I was like, man, that's fucked up, bro.
00:08:03.880 I was, like, so hurt by that shit.
00:08:05.960 That shit was supposed to go to Tommy and Corey.
00:08:09.280 And I was not getting it.
00:08:10.700 Fuck that.
00:08:11.520 Scott's not getting it in her ear.
00:08:15.580 Real talk.
00:08:18.060 That was one of my fucking, like, realizations that there's so much bullshit in fucking every industry.
00:08:24.700 There's a hustle to every facet.
00:08:27.120 I mean, this cup right here probably has 10 hustles to the business behind me.
00:08:32.720 Business.
00:08:34.620 Buster Rhymes.
00:08:36.220 One of the only people to check on me.
00:08:40.480 And, like, everybody's, like, pointing the finger.
00:08:42.220 Oh, Scott's fucked up now.
00:08:43.600 This and that.
00:08:44.940 He was, like, the only person who would call me and be like.
00:08:47.640 Wow.
00:08:48.260 I made money for all these people and they just walked away and said, Scott's a piece of shit.
00:08:53.460 He's, like, yo, bro, are you all right?
00:08:56.340 I wasn't.
00:08:57.720 I was, like, yeah, I'll be all right.
00:09:00.120 You know what I mean?
00:09:00.980 Addiction's a motherfucker.
00:09:03.600 Nobody cared, bro.
00:09:05.440 I bought, like, all my homies Bentleys out of love, like, because I wanted them to be like me.
00:09:11.820 And they all disappeared when the party was over.
00:09:14.540 It was, like, but that's a gift, too, because you get to see who your real friends are.
00:09:23.540 And those two, three people that were left standing there making sure I was cool.
00:09:28.720 Buster was one of them people that, I mean, we weren't that close, close, but he's also my first client when I left the roots that believed in me.
00:09:37.600 He was my very first client that hired me.
00:09:40.200 I remember we were, like, going up and down, like, fucking all the labels in New York.
00:09:49.040 Took this trip from Philly to New York and trying to play music for A&Rs.
00:09:53.120 First one to bite was Buster.
00:09:56.560 But, yeah, he's the only person that really fucking called and was like, bro, you all right, man?
00:10:01.020 Nobody gave a shit.
00:10:01.880 Out of everybody in the industry, when you were going through your worst of your worst and you were dealing with the recovery, the only person that reached out was Buster?
00:10:10.500 There was nobody else?
00:10:11.740 Joe, somewhat.
00:10:13.220 Is that Joe?
00:10:14.700 He never, like, I mean, I didn't get the call, but, I mean, I knew he cared.
00:10:20.120 Do you think that's because of you and your reputation, or is that just the business?
00:10:25.940 It's all fake.
00:10:26.800 It's all a facade.
00:10:27.660 You ain't really friends.
00:10:28.900 If you ain't hot, you ain't hot.
00:10:30.880 Hey, what's going on?
00:10:31.620 I'm Scott Storch, and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast, and you might have some questions you want to ask me.
00:10:37.400 I'm available on the Minette app, and you can ask me about pretty much anything.
00:10:42.020 Music, industry stuff, you know, my life and my history, or, you know, anything, technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques, check it out.
00:10:53.400 Minette.
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