Valuetainment - June 19, 2026


"Fox Is the Most Likely Buyer" – Daily Wire CEO on a Conservative Media SUPER Company


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Length

6 minutes

Words per minute

196.27

Word count

1,318

Sentence count

43

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Toxicity

2

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Ben Shapiro and Alex Blumberg discuss the potential for Fox News to buy The Daily Wire, The Blaze, and other conservative media outlets. They also discuss what it would look like if the Murdochs were to buy a media company and why they should do it.

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00:00:00.000 Say I go raise a few billion honors, okay?
00:00:02.700 Is it worth I buy Daily Wire, Blaze, five of them and bring it all together?
00:00:08.400 Is that worth it?
00:00:10.540 Certainly, I think that there's an opportunity for someone to roll up some of the online right
00:00:15.780 and create a sort of digital super company on the right.
00:00:20.280 You know, the most likely entity to do it is Fox.
00:00:24.560 Right.
00:00:25.080 Right.
00:00:26.020 Why do I say they're the most likely?
00:00:27.400 In some ways, they're the least likely.
00:00:28.600 They don't understand the online space yet.
00:00:30.400 Sure.
00:00:30.960 You see them make moves in it.
00:00:32.160 They don't make them very well.
00:00:32.940 They just signed 10 guys that they did, but yeah.
00:00:35.400 But they don't really know what to do yet.
00:00:36.720 Sure.
00:00:37.400 If they bought the Daily Wire, they'd know a lot more what to do.
00:00:39.820 If they bought the Blaze, they'd know it because we're digital-first companies.
00:00:42.780 We've existed in this space.
00:00:44.800 But I still say Fox is the most likely to do it because they've got billions of dollars.
00:00:48.720 The market needs competition, though.
00:00:50.920 To me, it's...
00:00:53.880 But the competition often comes from the little guy.
00:00:56.400 No, but that's what I'm saying.
00:00:57.480 what i'm saying to you is it's you know if a market like i remember we were having a conversation
00:01:02.180 you know a few years ago hey what if we started a media company i'm talking to a bunch of these
00:01:06.740 guys we're having meeting after meeting after meeting every other week at my house vivek's
00:01:10.080 there are a couple other people are big names these are very big things that we're having a
00:01:12.740 conversation with and this is pre the israel you know it's kind of israel october 7th happened but
00:01:21.840 it's not yet like at this level where everybody's openly there's massive division republican that
00:01:26.960 hasn't happened yet so we're in this meeting and a guy comes up to us and they say hey we're 22
00:01:32.980 billion dollar fund big company and we want to know if you're interested in being a ceo
00:01:38.720 if we were to go do a roll-up and we buy boom boom boom boom boom would you have any interest
00:01:43.980 interesting what would it look like well it would look like this this this
00:01:48.520 that's a sitter i'm like okay so why would ben continue why would this person continue why would
00:01:55.840 that person continue you know what would be there so then would we do a 50 50 and put the back end
00:02:02.860 equity on it so we're all flying to go build a 400 billion auto company so the real exit's going
00:02:08.040 to be hey guys we freaking 50x and collectively let's go even though we disagree let's show the
00:02:13.520 world that conservatives can unite and let's go give a message i flirted with the idea of what
00:02:18.140 that would look like because you know it was it was interesting but uh but i think the opposite
00:02:24.780 side may also happen. Fox at any point
00:02:26.880 can go knock on anyone's drone, buy up anybody.
00:02:28.940 Fox has done this with Wall Street Journal, with New York
00:02:30.760 Post, with God knows how many of them. There's so many companies
00:02:32.960 that people don't even know Fox owns
00:02:34.540 that the only reason you don't know is
00:02:36.800 because it's not public. They own a lot of, News Corp
00:02:38.980 is like, it's
00:02:40.900 a massive company out there. Okay, so let's
00:02:42.840 go to the conservative side. So on the
00:02:44.880 conservative Republican side. Can I say
00:02:46.880 one crazy thing? Please. I've never gotten to tell this story
00:02:48.860 and I love it so much. Go for it. Ben and I
00:02:50.920 had a meeting with Lachlan Murdoch
00:02:52.440 early not too early it was probably 2019 or 2020 even so we were the daily wire was a thing
00:03:01.000 must have been pre-covid time becomes a little flat to me but i'm almost certain we still lived
00:03:07.220 in la which would mean pre-covid um and and we were in lachlan's office having a a great
00:03:16.600 conversation with him he has a large office and so we were sitting on this sofa and then there's a
00:03:20.940 kind of an unusually large space and then a desk and he's at he's at the desk and there's a door
00:03:25.380 that's sort of in the center of the room and we're talking we're in having a really nice
00:03:30.120 conversation wasn't about acquisitions wasn't about anything like that it was more like a
00:03:33.560 meet and greet talent kind of meeting right and this little old man comes in that door
00:03:42.440 in the middle of the room to see Lachlan and because of the way the room's oriented he doesn't
00:03:48.320 even see us. He kind of comes in at this angle to us. And he says, when are we going to have lunch?
00:03:54.620 What are you thinking about lunch? And Lachlan says, Dad, I want you to meet Ben Shapiro and
00:04:02.720 Jeremy Boring. And this little old man who's wearing little old man jeans and little old man
00:04:08.220 white tennis shoes and literally shuffling, kind of moving around like this, turns, sees us, realizes
00:04:13.920 he's not alone and it was exactly like the moment in richard donner's superman 1978 when clark decides
00:04:21.600 he's going to tell lois who he is and she turns around to go find her her purse or something and
00:04:26.320 he takes off the clark kent glasses and his shoulders come back and he becomes three inches
00:04:30.860 taller and he is superman lock uh rupert murdoch turns around realizes he isn't alone sees us his
00:04:37.940 shoulders come back he gets at least three inches taller his eyes harden he reaches out and gives
00:04:43.880 you the most masculine handshake you've ever had in your life and and he was superman again he was
00:04:49.120 the guy who's made almost a hundred billion dollars in his life by basically force of his
00:04:54.840 own tenacity and his own will and it was such an amazing thing to see it happen in real life like 0.78
00:04:59.000 he is old and he is he is uh diminished but you know what's still in there the freaking guy who
00:05:06.280 could do all of that is a pretty did you watch his documentary pretty amazing i haven't gotten
00:05:10.280 to watch it no so you got to watch it because uh it so the documentary this is you're gonna flip
00:05:16.060 out you'll watch it you'll enjoy it i will it's based on the show's succession so the family
00:05:21.120 watches the family watches the show's successions like guys i think this is about us we got to get
00:05:27.220 our shit together and then the documentary is based on them reacting to the show it's it's my
00:05:32.880 it's on this is it the dynasty the murdochs it's truly worth watching because all the family all 0.99
00:05:39.500 the kids everybody's involved and the history of it you know it's it's a it's a great uh so again
00:05:44.720 you watch rupert in his 30s and his 40s and his 50s it's a very a guy like you won't be able to
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00:05:55.100 when you guys were almost at second base that no no that wasn't the case we weren't even at first
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