Valuetainment - April 09, 2025


＂Full Access To AREA 51＂ – Navy SEALs WARN About A Threat FAR Worse Than Aliens


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13 minutes

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201.47533

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2,795

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233


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Transcript

00:00:00.000 You know, I lived in Iran almost 11 years, so I was born in 78.
00:00:04.020 We left July 15th of 89, went to Germany at a refugee camp, and then we came here.
00:00:09.360 But I live there, so I know the environment, the climate, how it is.
00:00:13.740 And when you're in business, you have enemies.
00:00:16.100 You have a lot of competitors, and you have to know whose threats are real threats
00:00:21.440 and whose threats are just, you know, hot air.
00:00:24.760 I'm going to do this to you.
00:00:27.540 You're not going to do nothing.
00:00:28.500 But if that guy says, I'm going to do something to you, like, hey, listen,
00:00:32.780 we have to pay attention to this.
00:00:35.220 You guys sit there all day, watch tape of who the enemies are.
00:00:38.580 You study Iran.
00:00:39.680 You study, you know, what happened with Yemen.
00:00:43.040 You study what happened with, you know, Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein or Putin or all that.
00:00:48.720 That's the business model.
00:00:49.740 I'm assuming.
00:00:50.240 I'm just speculating.
00:00:51.020 I'm not in it.
00:00:51.500 That's your world.
00:00:52.060 And do you guys talk about, yeah, those guys are not going to do nothing to us.
00:00:59.900 Their threats mean nothing.
00:01:01.920 Or to say, no, when that guy says that, listen, we have to really be ready that they're capable
00:01:07.300 of doing something.
00:01:08.660 How did you guys, 17 years, your tier one, how do you view when Iran makes threats?
00:01:13.360 For me personally, I look at it just like Osama bin Laden threatened it for a long time,
00:01:19.780 said he was going to attack the homeland and didn't take it serious.
00:01:22.720 And I think after that, you've got to take every threat serious.
00:01:26.020 You just have to, especially now open borders.
00:01:28.500 There's so many people pouring in this country.
00:01:30.200 And if they want to spin it on and turn it on, they can really, really fast.
00:01:33.320 So I think now, after 9-11, I think everybody is taking every threat serious.
00:01:38.660 At least you should, because they proved it.
00:01:41.840 I mean, we've had to adopt a lot of cultural changes since 9-11 for the good.
00:01:45.840 I think it's made us better overall.
00:01:48.140 No, I mean, you can't look at guys like that and just, oh, he won't do that.
00:01:51.760 Well, we've already said that before.
00:01:52.980 We've said that multiple times.
00:01:54.380 We've said that as long as I can remember.
00:01:56.620 We said that through World War II.
00:01:58.080 We said it with Japanese.
00:01:58.960 We said it with everybody.
00:01:59.640 Oh, they won't do that.
00:02:00.560 Yeah, they did.
00:02:01.680 Yes, they did.
00:02:02.160 They flew this plane straight over here, crashed them into Pearl Harbor,
00:02:05.300 and then kicked off the whole thing.
00:02:07.940 They will.
00:02:08.680 They will do that.
00:02:10.640 Yeah.
00:02:11.200 Now, don't underestimate the power of any threats.
00:02:14.720 Especially not threats that have actual money and resources.
00:02:18.320 I think after 9-11, it was a complete switch.
00:02:22.060 You can't just pass off threats.
00:02:25.340 And the communication technology that's evolved across the world,
00:02:31.340 on intel.
00:02:33.900 And I think there's different ways to defeat them,
00:02:37.600 even if it's not a missile.
00:02:38.920 But I don't think they're missing any of it now.
00:02:41.120 I mean, they're catching everything,
00:02:42.180 and they probably got AI involved as well.
00:02:44.940 And part of the problem, from my understanding,
00:02:47.140 with 9-11 is none of the intel were talking to each other.
00:02:50.020 And now it's like all the intels are talking to each other.
00:02:54.660 All the intels are talking to each other.
00:02:56.880 So?
00:02:58.940 Like all the different intelligence agencies,
00:03:01.100 whoever's collecting and picking up.
00:03:02.320 From different countries?
00:03:03.680 Or, okay.
00:03:04.320 So you're saying like more of a united front of a CIA, Mossad, MI6,
00:03:11.420 than it was before?
00:03:12.940 Yeah.
00:03:13.460 Or you're saying more at your level?
00:03:16.080 Definitely at our level.
00:03:17.560 Definitely at our level.
00:03:18.520 But then our interagency partners and all our allies,
00:03:20.780 like our closest allies.
00:03:21.900 That's what I'm saying.
00:03:22.520 So, yeah.
00:03:23.000 We're all pointing in the exact same direction,
00:03:24.640 which is the source of our strength really,
00:03:26.300 is how good our allies are,
00:03:28.020 and how much we really do support each other.
00:03:29.940 Got it.
00:03:31.820 So, when you say that, like you guys,
00:03:35.360 do you see Delta as a team?
00:03:37.360 Do you see 18 Deltas as a team?
00:03:39.340 Do you see Delta Force as a team?
00:03:40.440 Do you guys see each other as equals?
00:03:43.360 Mm-hmm.
00:03:43.920 You do.
00:03:44.860 So, okay.
00:03:45.740 Was it more competitive pre-9-11,
00:03:48.540 where it was a little bit more lax,
00:03:49.800 and now it's like, listen,
00:03:50.680 no one's going to ever do a 9-11 again under our watch?
00:03:55.720 It certainly fell with the 90s.
00:03:57.300 You know, I was in active duty in the 90s,
00:03:58.900 but I grew up in the 90s.
00:03:59.940 A lot of it was training.
00:04:01.260 You deploy to Germany.
00:04:02.420 You do interagency ops with Poland.
00:04:05.240 All our European counterparts,
00:04:07.280 they do cold weather training in Alaska for six months.
00:04:10.540 I mean, everything was just a big training mission,
00:04:12.140 waiting for one big thing to pop.
00:04:13.940 And now that it has popped and we've seen it,
00:04:15.800 we've come so far tactically,
00:04:17.600 technologically in the last 20, 25 years.
00:04:21.320 But I think now we're in such a good spot
00:04:23.280 to defend the nation,
00:04:25.080 and now with our allies too.
00:04:26.140 I mean, 9-11 was the worst thing that's ever happened to us,
00:04:27.960 but in a lot of ways,
00:04:28.900 if it wouldn't have happened,
00:04:30.280 we'd be in the stone age still.
00:04:32.280 I mean, you look at body armor,
00:04:35.400 AI, just digital communications,
00:04:37.760 everything that had to elevate and grow so fast.
00:04:40.820 If we wouldn't have had 9-11, we wouldn't.
00:04:42.720 We would have stayed the same way.
00:04:43.820 And I look at it like,
00:04:45.320 and this will sound messed up,
00:04:46.140 but if you look at Black Hawk Down,
00:04:48.780 October 3, 93,
00:04:50.940 look at the gear they're wearing
00:04:52.080 and then look when they stepped on the ground in Afghanistan.
00:04:56.340 Not much change.
00:04:57.740 Same body armor, same carbines, same helmets,
00:05:00.080 nothing really changed
00:05:01.120 because they didn't have a reason to evolve.
00:05:03.200 Now you step foot on Afghanistan,
00:05:04.820 you're like, oh my God, this is not the same.
00:05:07.460 This is very, very different.
00:05:08.940 Then you teleport that same crew in Iraq three years later.
00:05:11.320 Oh, wow.
00:05:13.460 Oh no.
00:05:14.120 Like these IDs are a serious issue right now.
00:05:16.520 They're detonating them 50 different ways.
00:05:18.060 Like we can't stay ahead of this.
00:05:19.060 How are we going to do it?
00:05:19.920 Engineers attack this problem over and over and over.
00:05:22.580 EOD, everything you come across,
00:05:24.560 pump us the info.
00:05:25.200 We've got to be able to solve this.
00:05:26.680 And that's what they did.
00:05:28.260 I mean, we think about it.
00:05:29.860 Like if we only would have hit Afghanistan, no Iraq.
00:05:34.000 There are so many lessons we learned from Iraq
00:05:36.100 that if we wouldn't have invaded,
00:05:37.260 we wouldn't have had them.
00:05:38.280 Like we would not have evolved to where we are right now
00:05:40.380 if we wouldn't have hit them both.
00:05:41.840 I'm not saying we should have hit them both,
00:05:43.060 but I'm saying the benefit of doing them,
00:05:45.000 it really, I mean, the learning curve,
00:05:48.100 tactics, techniques, procedures, just everything.
00:05:51.220 It really, really evolved during the height of the war
00:05:53.080 and all our allies really benefited from it.
00:05:55.020 Let me ask you.
00:05:56.440 So has, because technology is advanced on all levels, right?
00:06:00.680 So the way they did 9-11, you know,
00:06:03.800 and now afterwards, like, whoa, no,
00:06:06.540 it's not going to happen again.
00:06:07.500 What do we make a mistake?
00:06:09.160 Boom, communications.
00:06:09.820 Okay, great.
00:06:10.840 So we knew we had science, yes.
00:06:12.040 We knew what it was.
00:06:12.740 Okay.
00:06:13.680 Airport, who was able to get in?
00:06:16.740 The enemy, their technology is advanced
00:06:19.480 as much as us, our technology is advanced, right?
00:06:23.420 Is it easier for the enemy to,
00:06:26.560 the level of advancement
00:06:28.760 to be able to conduct another 9-11
00:06:31.420 in a more creative way,
00:06:32.800 has that advanced more than our ability
00:06:35.040 to prevent it from happening?
00:06:36.200 What do you think has advanced more?
00:06:40.420 I mean, I think with growing in technology threats,
00:06:43.760 I'm not going to say that you can't keep up with them.
00:06:46.060 I mean, it's kind of like, I say, hacking.
00:06:48.580 You're always, like, stepping up that code
00:06:50.280 to protect your systems.
00:06:51.760 But as technology evolves,
00:06:53.760 you're always kind of playing that cat-and-mouse game
00:06:55.760 of maybe the technology hasn't evolved as fast,
00:06:58.820 but your defense is higher,
00:07:00.140 and kind of vice versa.
00:07:01.000 But I think they're always evolving every year
00:07:03.820 in the new threats.
00:07:05.500 I mean, it's no different if you and me
00:07:06.840 are both professional boxers.
00:07:08.260 You're doing your training camp.
00:07:09.480 I do a secret training camp with some ninjas,
00:07:12.160 and I'm just training in isolation.
00:07:14.200 You have no idea.
00:07:14.860 There's no training footage leaking.
00:07:16.100 You have no idea what I'm doing.
00:07:17.400 I step out, bell rings,
00:07:19.120 and I hit you with something
00:07:19.820 you've never, ever seen before.
00:07:22.300 Okay.
00:07:22.960 Now I have to go back to the drawing board.
00:07:24.200 Now everybody else sees that.
00:07:25.860 I think a lot of this time,
00:07:27.400 it sucks, but you're almost in a defensive posture.
00:07:30.160 Like, we've prepped for everything we know right now.
00:07:32.620 We have contingencies for the unknowns,
00:07:34.080 and if they happen,
00:07:34.760 this is how we're going to combat it.
00:07:37.180 So which one are we, though?
00:07:38.200 Are we the one that's trained and improved
00:07:39.940 without anybody seeing it,
00:07:40.920 or is that the enemy?
00:07:41.800 Both.
00:07:42.320 Okay.
00:07:42.700 So that's a little bit intense.
00:07:44.220 It is, because, yeah,
00:07:45.320 I mean, it's spy on spy.
00:07:46.260 I mean, you're trained,
00:07:47.380 you're perfecting,
00:07:48.360 advancing as much as you can,
00:07:49.660 but you have to do it in secrecy,
00:07:50.840 and that's where a lot of the general public,
00:07:52.600 they want to know everything you're doing.
00:07:54.300 The Area 51s release all the documents.
00:07:56.560 We want to have full open source
00:07:58.400 to everything the military does.
00:07:59.660 You can't do that.
00:08:01.480 You shouldn't have any right to do that,
00:08:03.040 because if you know it,
00:08:03.960 everybody else knows it.
00:08:05.540 Well, they're doing the exact same thing.
00:08:07.420 Just a lot of time,
00:08:08.220 their tradecraft is better.
00:08:09.660 Like, they don't have cell phone communications.
00:08:11.160 They just do it in straight isolation.
00:08:13.140 They bring in all the parties
00:08:14.180 from all the other countries
00:08:15.140 and train them up on bomb making
00:08:17.340 and all this other stuff.
00:08:18.900 Now they're doing isolation.
00:08:20.340 They're not putting out propaganda videos,
00:08:21.760 so you don't know how far ahead they are.
00:08:23.540 You hear a rumor mill.
00:08:24.160 There's a community that said,
00:08:26.240 hey, Trump, his first four years
00:08:29.660 when he was president,
00:08:30.420 there was no wars.
00:08:31.260 ISIS was gone.
00:08:32.280 A bunch of different progress that took place.
00:08:34.780 And then Biden comes in,
00:08:35.960 Ukraine, Russia,
00:08:37.740 you got Israel, Hamas,
00:08:41.000 all these things that are taking place
00:08:42.540 all over the place.
00:08:43.180 Now Trump is in.
00:08:44.460 Day one, peace,
00:08:45.900 deal between Ukraine and Russia.
00:08:49.680 Day one,
00:08:50.200 we're going to have Iran,
00:08:52.000 Israel is going to be done.
00:08:53.100 That's not going to happen.
00:08:54.200 You know, Hamas, boom.
00:08:55.220 Okay, great.
00:08:56.340 Now it's a slightly different energy.
00:08:59.900 If you do this,
00:09:00.900 we're going to do this.
00:09:02.360 Okay.
00:09:03.400 And you better release the hostages.
00:09:05.420 They don't.
00:09:05.880 You better release the hostages.
00:09:07.060 They don't.
00:09:07.460 You better release the hostages.
00:09:08.620 They don't.
00:09:09.760 What is your position?
00:09:10.720 Because some are saying,
00:09:11.840 I'm a fully anti-war.
00:09:14.760 If Trump,
00:09:15.440 I swear to God,
00:09:16.300 if Trump goes out there
00:09:17.340 and we go to war,
00:09:18.120 I'll be the first one to come out
00:09:19.400 and say that
00:09:20.140 I make the biggest regret of my life ever
00:09:22.920 to, you know,
00:09:23.640 vote for Trump
00:09:24.300 and I should have never done it.
00:09:25.500 We cannot be going to war
00:09:26.600 and we're getting closer to war.
00:09:28.720 What's your position with that?
00:09:34.040 He's putting it on you, Cole.
00:09:40.600 I'll say the limited foreign policy
00:09:42.480 that I somewhat know,
00:09:44.180 you know,
00:09:44.600 we've always helped fund
00:09:46.300 our partners internationally.
00:09:49.400 to protect whether
00:09:52.000 it's just a partnership
00:09:54.260 or there's a mutual benefit
00:09:56.400 between those.
00:09:58.340 And we've become
00:10:00.520 kind of taken advantage of
00:10:01.640 on that,
00:10:02.460 on how we help support
00:10:03.820 and fund those
00:10:04.540 and where the countries
00:10:07.260 kind of just depend on us
00:10:08.460 no matter what.
00:10:10.620 I appreciate Trump's approach
00:10:13.140 on kind of getting
00:10:14.900 or trying to get those wars to stop.
00:10:16.600 understanding both sides
00:10:19.340 of why they're angry,
00:10:21.520 why they're fighting.
00:10:23.040 I don't know the conversations
00:10:24.360 that go on behind closed doors
00:10:25.760 on how they get,
00:10:27.380 Trump pushes them
00:10:27.980 to get the treaties,
00:10:29.120 but I think it's great.
00:10:31.340 It would definitely be
00:10:32.200 something different
00:10:32.760 if we were attacked here
00:10:34.360 and we were having to attack
00:10:35.600 a different country.
00:10:36.280 but really trying
00:10:38.000 to minimize
00:10:38.500 and stabilize
00:10:40.100 the countries
00:10:41.700 and environments.
00:10:43.340 And I say
00:10:44.340 there's always a winner
00:10:45.540 in war,
00:10:46.020 but it's like
00:10:46.460 no one's winning.
00:10:47.460 I mean,
00:10:48.140 both sides
00:10:48.680 are losing
00:10:49.380 people,
00:10:51.160 so it's not strategic
00:10:52.860 and
00:10:53.280 I mean,
00:10:55.700 I think it's just good
00:10:56.460 that he's able to
00:10:57.560 try and create peace
00:10:58.920 on those.
00:11:00.660 What do you think?
00:11:02.340 I think if you haven't
00:11:03.480 fought in a war,
00:11:04.340 if you haven't given up
00:11:04.980 your children
00:11:05.460 to fight in a war,
00:11:06.640 I don't really care
00:11:07.200 about your opinion.
00:11:08.240 And I know that sounds bad,
00:11:09.780 but we've been doing this
00:11:11.720 for a long time
00:11:12.500 and if I didn't think
00:11:13.980 it was a worthy cause,
00:11:14.940 I wouldn't have done it.
00:11:16.440 I wouldn't.
00:11:17.460 And if Trump did a recall
00:11:19.160 right now
00:11:19.620 and I had to slap it
00:11:20.360 all back on,
00:11:21.340 I'd go
00:11:21.720 because I think it's worth it.
00:11:23.180 I watched him for four years
00:11:24.300 avoid all these major conflicts.
00:11:26.360 He is not one of those dudes,
00:11:27.460 some warmonger
00:11:28.120 just trying to push.
00:11:28.940 He's not.
00:11:29.740 If he was,
00:11:30.200 he would have done it.
00:11:30.720 He had every reason to do it.
00:11:32.020 The most powerful dude
00:11:32.600 in the world.
00:11:33.520 If you wanted to spend
00:11:34.100 your first four years
00:11:34.840 just laying hate and waste
00:11:36.220 to everybody
00:11:37.060 who ever did you wrong,
00:11:38.080 he could have done it.
00:11:39.140 He didn't do it.
00:11:40.420 I watched him be
00:11:40.920 really diplomatic
00:11:41.880 and solve a lot of issues
00:11:43.360 with just a phone call
00:11:44.200 that I hadn't seen before.
00:11:48.160 Yeah, I mean,
00:11:48.620 my foreign policy
00:11:49.260 is not as good
00:11:49.840 as it probably should be.
00:11:50.720 I mean, there's a lot
00:11:51.220 of backdoor conversations
00:11:52.540 that are happening,
00:11:53.140 but at the end of the day,
00:11:54.560 if you say you can't
00:11:55.980 ever do that thing
00:11:56.880 ever again
00:11:57.520 and they continue to do it,
00:11:58.760 at what point
00:11:59.320 are you going to send it?
00:12:00.620 Going to go the entire way.
00:12:01.740 That's where it gets dangerous.
00:12:02.660 You call their bluff.
00:12:03.760 If you don't release hostages,
00:12:04.760 I'm doing X, Y, and Z.
00:12:05.680 They don't release them.
00:12:08.660 Well, now I've kind of
00:12:09.360 painted us all in a corner
00:12:10.140 and that's where
00:12:10.840 it gets kind of dicey.
00:12:12.340 Well, you have to go now.
00:12:13.560 You have to go.
00:12:14.380 You have to go.
00:12:15.560 And I don't know
00:12:17.300 what he says
00:12:17.980 on these phone calls
00:12:18.820 to get them
00:12:19.660 to change their mind.
00:12:20.600 I have no idea,
00:12:21.560 but it's working.
00:12:23.140 I mean,
00:12:23.600 he's done it successfully
00:12:24.460 multiple times.
00:12:25.180 I don't want us
00:12:26.780 to go to war.
00:12:27.340 I definitely don't want us
00:12:27.980 to go to war with China,
00:12:29.540 with Russia,
00:12:30.080 with any of these people.
00:12:31.700 But at a certain point,
00:12:32.720 we cannot,
00:12:34.680 you can't give them an inch.
00:12:36.800 If you do,
00:12:37.320 it'll take a mile.
00:12:39.040 I think a lot of times,
00:12:40.000 just like Cole said,
00:12:40.820 I mean,
00:12:41.120 we become the blanket
00:12:41.900 of coverage and support
00:12:42.800 for everyone else.
00:12:44.580 And Ukraine's
00:12:45.040 a perfect example.
00:12:46.100 We have to fly over
00:12:47.000 quite a few countries
00:12:48.280 that are really close
00:12:49.680 to Ukraine
00:12:50.320 in order to give them support.
00:12:51.620 And I feel like
00:12:51.960 not a lot of other people are.
00:12:54.780 You can always hear that,
00:12:55.440 like,
00:12:55.500 well,
00:12:55.660 if they take Ukraine,
00:12:56.580 they're just going to keep going.
00:12:58.400 What are you guys
00:12:58.960 going to do about it?
00:13:00.700 Like,
00:13:01.000 I shouldn't have to fly
00:13:01.960 from our country
00:13:02.940 over all of your countries
00:13:04.200 and land there
00:13:04.620 and try to solve that for you.
00:13:06.280 We shall be trying
00:13:06.920 to solve it together.
00:13:07.540 And I feel like
00:13:07.960 we always have to be
00:13:08.800 the big brother
00:13:09.280 to step in first
00:13:10.160 and kind of draw
00:13:11.500 that line in the sand.
00:13:12.660 And it puts a lot
00:13:13.400 of people against us.
00:13:14.820 And then it serves up
00:13:15.600 a lot of hate
00:13:16.040 and discontent
00:13:16.540 inside of their own country.
00:13:17.820 It just does.
00:13:18.980 People don't want to go to war.
00:13:20.000 They want to go to war.
00:13:20.860 They see this.
00:13:21.520 They see that.
00:13:23.340 A lot of times
00:13:24.000 it's a lose-lose.
00:13:25.660 Hey, what's going on, guys?
00:13:26.400 DJ Shipley and Cole Fack
00:13:27.440 from GBRS Group.
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