＂Full Immunity For Maxwell？＂ - Ghislaine’s Lawyers PUSH For SHOCKING Epstein Testimony DEAL
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Jelaine Maxwell's request for immunity in exchange for testimony against Epstein is denied. In a stunning twist, she threatens to dodge the Epstein question unless certain demands are made. What are those demands? Is she willing to cooperate?
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Do we have the Jelaine Maxwell story of what she said that she doesn't want to do anything unless if she gets her terms?
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I don't know if we put that in here, Rob, at all.
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So Jelaine Maxwell wrote request for immunity in exchange for testimony denied in stunning twist.
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First, she threatens to dodge Epstein question unless demands are made.
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Is this our friend, Rob, that's breaking it down?
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Yes, Caitlin Collins was in the courthouse when the court received the letter of the demands from the attorneys.
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Traveling to Washington today, and we just got word on Jelaine Maxwell's response to that congressional subpoena seeking her testimony.
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Her attorneys have just sent a letter to the House Oversight Chair, James Comer, saying initially they were just going to invoke her Fifth Amendment rights.
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But they say now that they are willing to cooperate if, and this is a huge if, some big demands are met.
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One, that includes her being granted formal immunity for her testimony so she can't be prosecuted for anything she says.
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Secondly, they'd like for this interview to take place outside of the correctional facility where she's currently serving her 20-year sentence.
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And they say that in order to prepare for this deposition, and given the volume of materials that she'd have to sort through beforehand,
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that she needs the questions written and in advance from the committee before she would go and answer them.
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They say in this letter that surprise questioning, in their view, would be, quote, unproductive.
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They also say that any testimony that she would give would have to happen after her fight with the Supreme Court over her conviction.
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Right now, she's appealing that conviction, and this is something that could go on for months,
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meaning if that testimony is going to happen, it could be quite some time before it even occurs.
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However, that immunity demand is a big one because we heard from the House Oversight Chair, James Comer,
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who said he didn't think it would be likely that anyone would want to grant immunity to someone who has been convicted of child sex trafficking.
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Okay, so what do you think is going on here, what are making those requests?
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I think for her, she sees a great silver lining in this because it's back in the news, and she's like,
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I would also say, though, if you had all this information, why didn't you make a deal the first time before you got your 20 years?
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Again, I understand why there's such an eye on the Epstein files.
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I understand that some people have made careers for the last at least five, six, seven years on Epstein and the conspiracy around it.
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But there are children and teens and young girls being trafficked right now,
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and I wish there was as much energy and attention given to that, maybe the 300,000 migrant children that we are still trying to track down from the Biden years and what have you.
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Maybe a little bit more energy on that rather than the people that are just trying to influence pedal for clicks and content
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and the influencers who are so dug into this because it's become their lifeblood.
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Yeah, but Tommy, do you think that there should be accountability because, I mean, she's in prison for 20 years for conspiracy, sex trafficking, minors.
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Where are all these people, all these big names that we all know?
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Pat always talks about the hill that you would die on or the sword you'd fall on.
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At the end of the day, if it's Gaza and those children that are dying and starving, I think we're going to get there.
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To the women that are still in front of cameras today saying, Ghislaine is a freaking demon as well.
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Epstein did this and the victims are out there.
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We have to have accountability or else it's never going to stop.
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And those 300,000 kids at our border, they found 10,000.
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But let's not forget, Ghislaine is a freaking sex trafficking, underage girl, minor, and her other victim.
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And the reason why I say she makes a very good point is the same argument that Adam makes when Adam says,
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How come you don't talk about what they did to the Syrians?
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And I actually appreciate the fact that she said that.
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But the question I'm asking here is the following.
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Her lawyers coming out asking for immunity, asking for protection.
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I'm willing to come out and say everything and anything you want to know.
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I want to be able to do it after my ruling, which is going to take months, probably four months from now.
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Tom, I want to know from you that position that she is taking to be able to talk.
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Are you comfortable with what the requests are being made by the lawyer?
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Well, I'm not going to give her an – if I'm a U.S. prosecutor handling this, I'm not going to give her immunity.
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So do we believe the conspiracy that there's a lot of powerful people and that if you gave up names and got immunity at your first trial, that your life would be in danger afterwards?
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Social media is all over that, and there's people that are saying, I wonder what's going to happen to these witnesses.
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You say, well, I couldn't – so my question is, okay, well, what changed?
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What changed from a couple years ago where, oh, if I gave up names, my life would be in danger?
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Okay, well, what's the difference then versus now?
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So the whole immunity thing really stinks for me because you should have cut your deal at the beginning.
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And let me tell you, if you know anything about the prosecutorial efforts of the FBI and things, they settle more than they go to trial.
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And what they do is they settle because you take a plea, you take the time, and you turn someone else in.
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I'm going to understand if Sammy the Bull was involved in the murder of 19 different people, his lawyer was able to negotiate, that you're going to do a surgery on my face so people will not recognize my face.
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I will tell you anything and everything you want with all the other mobsters and what happened, but you've got to give me full-on protection.
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And the government got the information to go and do what they wanted to do, right?
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In a situation like this, what would you ask me?
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See, listen, do you want a partially reduced sentence for cooperation?
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Because I'll give you that, but I'm not going to give you immunity from further charges if you self-incriminate.
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You guys came to me saying that now you want to find out what happened and you want me to talk to the DOJ.
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If you want, because he wanted to give you half the time, I'll give you immunity.
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But we're not giving you the questions in advance so you can practice and get ready.
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You are going to be in front of a camera, depose, and we're going to ask you everything to quell.
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All this conspiracy crap with everything, you have to be connected to a lie detector.
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I have to know live if you're full of shit or you're telling the truth.
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We want you hooked up so we know that you're not lying.
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If you're representing the government, what do you want from this conversation with Jelaine in return?
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But it's hard for me to believe that they don't already have names.
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We know how this would go down, whether they cut a deal with her or not.
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So they're going to say, regardless, oh, well, Trump's DOJ cut a deal with her, so of course she's not going to say Trump.
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So even if she doesn't say Trump, they're going to say, well, she didn't say Trump because Trump's DOJ gave her a deal.
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So it doesn't, the media is going to, it all comes back to nobody's ever going to give this up that wants to go after Trump for it.
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You can talk to this woman until the cows come home.
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They're going to say, well, she's not saying anything because Trump's cutting her a deal.
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I say, leave our ass in there for 20 years, Epstein is dead, the DOJ, you really messed up with those influencers on the step with those stupid binders.
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You made a mockery of trafficked victims, and that was stupid, and you should apologize for that.
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And you should be as transparent as you possibly can.
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But you're not getting anything out of this woman.
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And it doesn't, even if you did, they would still say, well, you made her deal.
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And so she, they are going to always think that a backroom, backroom deal was cut so that people were spared.
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Says, well, he didn't pardon her from his desk.
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He pardoned her through the Justice Department.
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So with the media, is there, is there anything you could do?
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First of all, screw the media and what they're going to say.
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Let's, let's, let's forget about the media and the podcasters and the influencers, whatever.
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What I'm asking you right now is the people that voted you in, that this is something they were interested in.
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If we want the truth, do you think there's any way you can structure this to get the truth from Ghislaine Maxwell?
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If there's no lie detector test, no, you're not going to get the, how are you going to take her word?
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Then it's going to be, I would hook her up to lie detector test, Pat, and ask three major questions.
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Was Donald Trump a customer with, with Jeffrey Epstein?
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Was Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, any of these people, because we need somebody.
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That's what, that, that, that's not going to shut us up.
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The danger in this is you give her immunity, and she said, yeah, there was this congressional
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candidate in Georgia, Fred Sims, and that's all I recall.
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I think, Adam, I think the majority of the people that are out there that are even watching
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this, a thousand percent, because I want the accountability.
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She's like, look, it was all just me and Jeffrey.
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If she passes a lie detector test on everybody, then I'll be like, okay, she did her.
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Adam, I would bet my life it's not just her and Jeffrey Epstein.
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Mossad, who was behind all those cameras and where's all the footage?
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This Michael Wolff, who has how many hours of footage?
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So the Michael Wolff has a hundred hours where he reveals a lot of things that no one's
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Do we know a number, Rob, of what he's asking for?
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And how are we going to know if we're going to get the whole footage without him editing
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My friend Alan's been talking about this for freaking weeks.
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And then you've got Bannon's got 14 to 15 hours, 15 to 16 hours, which that one, apparently
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Michael Wolff, when he sat down with Epstein, Epstein told him that the 15 to 16 hours of
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Bannon is Bannon prepping Epstein for media training.
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That's what apparently Michael Wolff claims that Epstein told him.
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But he says Epstein said a lot of things about Trump and his friendship in the video on the
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If the number is right, I would buy the hundred hours just to watch it myself.
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I got a hundred hours of watching Jeffrey Epstein.
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I would pay a hundred million dollars just to watch it myself.
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A hundred hours just to watch it myself and see how much.
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I can't find anything on a price, but I can confirm 100 hours of recorded interviews
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Can you ask, has Michael Wolff asked for how much money for the hundred hours?
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How much money does Michael Wolff want for the hundred hours of Epstein footage?
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Rob, have we invited Michael Wolff at all to be on the podcast?
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We're in touch with this book publisher right now.
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By the way, no one's going to care about this in about a year or two because how long it's
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If he's interested, maybe he's got an interested buyer here if the number makes sense.
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If it's out of control ridiculous, we're moving on.
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But I would just want to watch 100 hours myself for shits and giggles to see what that conversation
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Whoever came up with that, they have mental issues.
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You think that this story with Epstein is here today, gone tomorrow, and a year from
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Unless, because who's going to be the next president?
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What's the chance someone's going to be getting elected that is tied to Epstein?
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They look like two caterpillars fighting to get to her ears.
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I think after 2028, I'm telling you, it's like, you know, what's his name?
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But the greatest shirt that they've ever pulled was convinced you didn't exist.
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So Michael Wolff only has like a couple-month window of having people that are truly interested
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I'm telling you right now, I'm not paying a lot.
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I'll give you a hundred bucks right now, Michael Wolff.
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If it's a hundred hours of Epstein, I would buy that and have the team monitor, take notes,
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everything, study it, and go to the main 82 parts of the hundred hours.
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