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00:00:00.480 All these phone calls came in from our friends and relatives from Germany

00:00:03.840 about how this crisis was evolving almost overnight turned into a pandemic.

00:00:09.680 How does that lead you to wanting to become one of four members of Germany's

00:00:12.800 Corona Investigative Committee? How does that happen?

00:00:15.440 This PCR test is incapable of telling us anything about infections.

00:00:21.200 It's about creating fear so that people will not ask any questions but do as they're told.

00:00:27.120 There was a paper that was leaked called the panic paper.

00:00:30.320 Is the panic paper a public paper or is a private paper that we cannot see?

00:00:33.600 The things that are stated in there is make children feel responsible for the tortured

00:00:39.040 deaths of their parents and grandparents if they don't adhere to all these anti-Corona regulations.

00:00:44.400 How come more people haven't come together to want to do something about this yet?

00:00:47.680 Because only now do people begin to understand that this is not something that's going to be

00:00:52.800 over within a very short period of time.

00:00:55.120 I just want to make sure the right people are held accountable so you know.

00:00:58.000 In the end you know in the end it's going to be the governments who are going to be

00:01:01.360 held accountable. That's great going up against Deutsche Bank and Volkswagen was almost a training ground

00:01:07.440 for you to go up against this one. We believe that the facts are going to take us right there

00:01:12.880 to the people who are actually responsible not just to the puppets the marionettes but to the people

00:01:18.400 we're really pulling the strength.

00:01:23.920 My guest today is Dr. Reiner Fulmich who is currently in Germany. He's a trial lawyer licensed both in

00:01:30.480 Germany and in the state of California and some of the work he's worked on in the past,

00:01:34.960 a huge lawsuits against Deutsche Bank, Volkswagen fraud, and now he's one of the four members of the

00:01:40.800 Germany Corona Investigative Committee. So with that being said, Dr. Reiner, thank you so much for

00:01:44.560 being a guest on Valuetainment. Thank you very much for having me.

00:01:48.400 Yes, so you know you work on these two cases with Deutsche Bank and Volkswagen. If you don't mind

00:01:54.880 kind of talking about that, how did that lead to from working in that industry to all of a sudden you

00:01:59.680 want to go out there and pursue Coronavirus Committee? I mean how does that go about? So if

00:02:03.600 you don't mind taking a moment sharing with us what you did with the Deutsche Bank and Volkswagen

00:02:07.280 and how that led you to what you're doing right now? Well, it was part coincidence and part experience,

00:02:14.480 I'd say. Back in March, my wife and I were living in Northern California. We have a ranch there and we

00:02:24.560 were staying there from early February until late May. Then we moved back to Germany. I was hoping to be

00:02:33.200 able to get back as soon as possible, but that was not possible and that's why we took our dogs with us.

00:02:40.080 But up until then, I had had a lot of experience as a trial lawyer going after fraudulent corporations

00:02:47.440 like VW and Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank in particular, I used to work for them by the way,

00:02:53.040 in the early 1990s. I worked in Japan and my boss then was someone who was later to become CEO

00:03:02.320 of Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank used to be one of the best banks in the world with a sterling reputation.

00:03:12.960 However, in the early 1990s in Japan, I realized that things were changing, that Deutsche Bank was ready

00:03:19.680 to do anything for a dollar and didn't really care about the law anymore. They felt like they were

00:03:27.200 above the law. And that's why I left, because that's not what I had studied law for. And I left,

00:03:33.760 I went back to Germany, went back to the University of Göttingen where I taught. I was a professor for a while.

00:03:40.000 Simultaneously, I was building up my law practice until eventually I just wasn't able to do both things at the same time anymore.

00:03:48.960 So I switched and my small law firm with then 14, 17 lawyers decided to go after Deutsche Bank for their

00:04:00.080 fraudulent loans for, actually, what do you call this? This is what eventually blew up in the United

00:04:07.600 States, first in the United States, just like the VW scandal blew up in the United States first. But in

00:04:12.400 Germany, nobody really cared about it, because the government believes that this is one of the

00:04:18.560 corporations that are so important for the German economy that you can't really go after them. So

00:04:24.240 even though it's not spelled out in this way, many Germans, and even some of the judges in Germany,

00:04:31.040 believe that they have to take special precautions that they cannot apply the rule of law to Deutsche Bank.

00:04:36.720 It was for predatory lending, for financing through a bunch, hundreds and hundreds, thousands of agents

00:04:45.760 going out and going into people's homes and persuading them to buy a piece of real estate so that they would

00:04:53.920 create additional income in terms of rental income, which would then be good for an additional pension plan, so to speak.

00:05:03.840 Without telling them, however, that these pieces of real property were vastly overpriced, like they sold

00:05:10.560 them at two times, actually, even in many cases, three times its fair market value, basically defrauding

00:05:18.320 the people who they wanted to be their customers by telling them all, by giving them all kinds of false statements.

00:05:27.680 I don't want to go into the details of this because there's too much legalese about this.

00:05:31.520 There were blatant lies, blatant lies. Very similar, the VW diesel fraud case, they sold their cars,

00:05:40.160 which were functioning cars, of course, but which did not really comply with especially the California

00:05:46.480 emission standards. And they had put in this so-called defeat device, which was okay on a test stand, but once the

00:05:56.160 car moved out into the real world, the emissions were much, much higher than they should have been.

00:06:02.800 So two big cases of fraud, and I had gathered a lot of experience in a courtroom with these cases.

00:06:10.320 That's why I'm saying I was ready for this, but I wouldn't have wanted to take this case on. It's just that

00:06:16.720 the Corona case. But it's, I was used to this, I was used to sort of running against, into a wall, even in

00:06:25.360 court, because parts of the judiciary had been, well, are not as independent as they should be here in

00:06:33.440 Germany, because politics tried, tries to exert, exert quite a bit of influence on the judiciary as

00:06:42.560 well, simply because of the notion that Germany is an export oriented country. And this Deutsche Bank is

00:06:48.720 one of the, is still one of the largest banks in Germany, and we need it. And VW, of course, is one of

00:06:55.200 the cornerstones of the German economy by producing as many cars as possible and selling them all over the

00:07:00.480 the world. So they're sort of above the law, at least in Germany, but not in the United States.

00:07:06.320 So, so by the way, are you still with friends with your old boss who ended up becoming a CEO or no?

00:07:12.320 No, you're not friends. And did he fire you or no? What happened? Were you fired or you just left?

00:07:18.640 No, you know, you have to, you have to keep in mind that I did not work for them as an attorney. I

00:07:24.240 didn't do any legal work. I was there in charge of their business in, in Japan. And there was only

00:07:32.960 one instance when they needed me as a lawyer, because I, I'm trained as an American, as a,

00:07:39.520 as an Anglo American lawyer as well. So they needed a couple of contracts to be written up by

00:07:43.760 someone who knows what they're doing. And that was me. And this instance convinced me that I just

00:07:49.840 couldn't stay with them any longer because it involved another big fraud. This time,

00:07:55.040 no consumer was defrauded, but, um, the, uh, French, um, uh, bank supervisor authority was

00:08:02.720 defrauded. I'm not going to go into any details, but it was not legal. I thought, well, I'm not really

00:08:08.000 harming anyone, but this is not what I wanted to be as a lawyer. So I left. I mean, it makes sense. I

00:08:14.640 mean, I was going to say you're the wrong person to fire because if somebody fires you, you're going to

00:08:18.000 come back, come after them and sue them. And, uh, that, that makes for a good story, but okay.

00:08:23.520 So how do you go from Deutsche Bank? How do you go from Volkswagen? I mean, these are

00:08:28.000 in Germany, these are behemoths. These are gods. You know, this is like you going after Ford motor

00:08:34.160 company in us. This is like, you're going after bank of America or, you know, chase. You're not

00:08:39.120 going after anybody small and maybe even bigger because Germany is a smaller country in the economy

00:08:43.920 than, uh, than us is. But how does that lead you to wanting to become one of four members of

00:08:48.160 Germans, Germany's Corona investigative committee? How does that happen? Okay. Well, I, what I just

00:08:54.880 told you is the experience that I have and the frustration tolerance that I have developed over

00:09:01.520 the years by just not giving up, keep going. You're going to get them in the end. Truth will prevail.

00:09:07.360 Um, but now comes the, um, the, uh, well, accident more or less. Um, my wife and I were just sitting

00:09:15.920 there on our ranch, playing with our dogs. I was running every day, uh, trying to recharge my

00:09:20.960 batteries. And then we got all these phone calls came in from our friends and relatives from Germany

00:09:26.240 about how this crisis was evolving and how, what I thought was just the seasonal flu almost overnight

00:09:35.040 turned into a pandemic and how people began to be really concerned about this is really dangerous.

00:09:41.040 This is deadly. And one name kept coming up. Professor Drosten. He's, uh, the leader of, uh, he's,

00:09:48.000 he's the, uh, chief virologist at a German, well-known German, probably one of the largest European

00:09:54.320 hospitals called Charité, which is in Berlin. And it's a, it's a university hospital and it serves two

00:10:01.360 universities at the same time. Now I had never heard of this guy before, but I knew that he was

00:10:07.520 the one who was promoting all of a sudden overnight. He had changed his mind before this. He kept telling

00:10:13.120 everyone, oh, this is going to be not so serious. You're not have, you don't have to worry. Most

00:10:17.200 people won't have any symptoms. It's, it'll just go by just like the seasonal flow. And as though

00:10:22.480 somebody had given him a signal overnight, he changed his tune to, this is extremely dangerous. We're

00:10:29.200 going to have to do something. And he had kept advising our politicians. And it turns out through

00:10:34.880 a whistleblower, we know now he was the only person that our government consulted. The only

00:10:40.560 person. Now this is a gross violation of the Roman principle of audiato et altera pars, which means

00:10:48.320 you have to listen to the other side. In particular, when you make decisions as far-reaching as, as the

00:10:54.800 the ones that were taken by the German government, the lockdown, the suspension of all of our

00:10:59.040 constitutional rights for an indefinite period of time, you have to listen to the other side. And

00:11:05.360 obviously there was another side, except nobody listened to it because the mainstream media and

00:11:10.880 everybody else who had been brought into line, probably we don't know who really is behind this,

00:11:17.120 but some powerful people, some corporate interests are behind this definitely, because you just have to

00:11:22.480 go back to follow the money. And then you will realize pharmaceutical industry is making lots of

00:11:26.320 money. Tech industry is making lots of money. So their representatives are the ones who are pushing

00:11:30.640 this. They're the ones who are pulling the strings. But the people out in the open are Professor Drosten,

00:11:36.160 and then the leader of the German equivalent of the American CDC, which is RKI is what it's called.

00:11:42.320 His name is Wheeler. He's a veterinarian, as the head of the German equivalent of the CDC. And then there's,

00:11:48.720 the third person is Mr. Tedros, a philosopher, who runs the World Health Organization. So I couldn't,

00:11:59.120 I didn't quite know what to make of this. So I called a good friend of mine, someone who knows a lot

00:12:03.600 about medicine. And this is this guy is the one who, who stepped in when 12 years ago, we had a very,

00:12:11.680 very similar situation with the swine flu. That's my friend, Dr. Wolfgang Wodark, who back then was in

00:12:19.120 a position of political power, because he was a member of the German Bundestag, which is like the

00:12:24.320 Congress. And he was also a member of the Council of Europe. So he had a lot of power. And the only

00:12:32.080 reason why back then, that attempt of a massive lobby attack kind of backfired. But if there's still

00:12:41.840 movies from 12 years ago, which I looked at, and I couldn't, I just, I thought it was about today.

00:12:49.360 The same, the same people who advanced the theory of everybody's going to die, did it back then,

00:12:56.880 including Professor Druston, including what's his name, Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College of

00:13:03.280 England. They all pushed this story. Eventually, of course, as we all know now, unless we have

00:13:09.680 forgotten about it, that was just the common flu. No more serious than the common flu. And by the way,

00:13:16.560 that's what this is. The WHO just issued a statement which confirmed that Professor Ioannidis's

00:13:23.760 position of Stanford University is correct, that the mortality or the lethality of this virus,

00:13:32.320 whatever it is, is no worse than the common flu at 0.14%. So my friend Wolfgang Wodach told me,

00:13:42.800 you have to look at the other side. Check out Ioannidis at Stanford University. Check out Professor

00:13:48.320 Levin, who is a Nobel Prize winner. They're all of the same opinion. Plus, then he advanced some

00:13:55.760 more names from Germany, German professors, Mölling, Bhakti, etc., etc. I spoke with many of them,

00:14:02.800 or I watched their videos, and they all came to the same conclusion. Whatever we're dealing with,

00:14:08.400 this is no worse than the common flu. So I decided, I'm just going to wait and sit and wait until it's

00:14:16.240 over. But my wife kept telling me, Reiner, we can't do this. We're going to have to do something.

00:14:20.640 You're a lawyer. You know how to do this. I said, no, I'm the only one out here because I can't see

00:14:25.120 any other lawyer. So I asked, again, I asked Wolfgang Wodach, is there anybody else in the legal

00:14:31.760 community, is there any other lawyer who's doing something about her? And he told me about a woman

00:14:35.760 by the name of Beate Banner, who's well known here in Germany. She's a specialist in medical law.

00:14:41.760 And the next thing I knew about her is that she spoke up, and then she was arrested and put into

00:14:49.040 a mental institution. So that was kind of motivating. Wait, she was put in mental institution?

00:14:55.840 Yeah, psychiatric ward. She came out after a few days, but that was extremely discouraging.

00:15:03.440 Wait, this lady, Beate Banner, who was known in Germany, was put into a mental institution?

00:15:09.760 Yeah, or mental instability, simply because she had a different opinion.

00:15:15.920 But who has the power to make that happen? I mean, who called the shots to say you're going

00:15:20.480 to a mental institution? That's a very good question. It's the executive. Just like in the

00:15:26.000 United States, of course, we have a separation of powers. We have the legislative power, we have the

00:15:30.800 judiciary, and we have the executive. Now, just like in the United States and almost everywhere else in

00:15:37.040 the world, this separation of power has been almost destroyed, because at this point, we're not being

00:15:45.520 run by our governments, but rather by the executives, by the local governors, for example. But it's not the

00:15:53.680 lawmakers who we voted into office who are calling the shots by making laws, but it's rather it's the

00:16:02.000 executive that's the executive that is calling the shots by making all kinds of regulations that,

00:16:07.280 as for example, I think the Michigan and the Wisconsin Supreme Court and a federal court in

00:16:13.040 Pennsylvania has spelled out in very explicit terms. You're not an emperor. You can have

00:16:21.920 emergency orders for a couple of days, but no longer than that. Then the legislature has to step in.

00:16:28.720 You have to involve them. Same thing's happening here, and that's why we have all these orders about

00:16:34.720 mandatory mask wearing and social distancing, et cetera, et cetera, and that's why the judiciary

00:16:42.000 has to step in. And finally, it is stepping in here in Germany. It first happened in our neighboring

00:16:49.120 country in Austria. Their constitutional court only yesterday issued an order saying that very same thing.

00:16:56.320 You cannot have the executive run amok. You have to get back to getting the legislature involved

00:17:04.880 and have a general discussion about what's going on. You cannot just follow one single opinion that's

00:17:11.360 out there. Yet there are other scientists who may have a completely different picture of this story.

00:17:17.840 Yeah, that's pretty intense. So that led you to want to go and pursue this even more in Germany. Okay,

00:17:23.280 so I have a few questions for you that are very basic questions, but maybe for someone like you

00:17:30.480 that's in your world, this is how I process it. I'm curious to know how you process it. So for me,

00:17:34.240 we are in shambles around the world. In March, April, US shuts down travel from China to come in,

00:17:42.800 then sports shut down, then hotels are going to 25%. Then if you're not a, what do they call it,

00:17:52.400 the business, if you're not a essential business, you have to shut down. People are working from home.

00:17:57.680 And the majority of US, they're kind of sitting around saying, maybe this is true. Let's just follow

00:18:03.600 orders. This is what we're supposed to do. Fauci knows what he's doing. This person knows what he's

00:18:07.600 doing. Let's follow it. Let's go. If I'm an attorney, my interest is, how was this caused? Who

00:18:14.960 started it? Who needs to be held accountable to it? And in what way? Because I think if that part is not

00:18:21.840 done, what makes us believe this will not happen the next time? For example, the Germans had to pay 1.00

00:18:27.280 reparation to the Jewish community, and they just ended up paying their last payment, I think 2008

00:18:32.640 or 2010. And that was a long time. So other countries are like, I don't ever want to do that, because

00:18:38.000 I don't want to pay that much reparation. So it was a, you know, a way of being punished. So you're an

00:18:42.480 attorney, you know, how are we going to hold the people accountable who started this? Forget about

00:18:49.840 who's politicizing it. We'll get to that next. But how are we going to hold the people accountable

00:18:54.160 that started this whole thing that affected and pretty much stopped the whole world within 90 days

00:18:58.880 after us finding out about it in China? Well, those are the exact same questions that I asked myself.

00:19:06.160 Together with Wolfgang Wodach, he too said, we have to first find out what is really going on. We have

00:19:14.080 to know about the real facts, not just believe the narrative that the government is telling us,

00:19:20.960 but we have to take a much closer look. And then he put me in touch with another attorney,

00:19:25.360 a woman attorney by the name of Viviana Fisher. She's an economist and an attorney. And my wife and

00:19:31.760 I, plus our dogs, flew back to Germany, I got in touch with her. And two more lawyers who I had known

00:19:39.040 from my work at Transparency International, which is a anti-corruption NGO, which I used to work with.

00:19:47.200 And we got together and we decided, it doesn't look like the government is going to take a closer

00:19:54.320 look at what's going on. So we're going to just take over and we're going to do what the government's

00:19:59.760 supposed to do. So what we're, what we're doing basically with this investigative Corona

00:20:04.240 investigative committee is we were almost acting like a moot court, or it was just like a, it was

00:20:11.040 almost like a mock trial. We decided to ask four or three basic questions. How dangerous is the virus

00:20:17.760 really? The second question, how, how much can we trust the PCR tests, the positive results? What does

00:20:27.040 it really mean? And the third question, which is really a two-part question is how much damage do these

00:20:33.600 anti-corona measures do both to the economy and to the health and wellbeing of the, of the world's

00:20:40.160 population? Now, the latter is very easily answered. This is probably the worst crisis that the world has

00:20:47.120 ever been in with so many people dying in my view, in our view, after all of what we've heard from our

00:20:53.600 expert witnesses, completely in vain. People who didn't get an operation, surgical procedures that were

00:21:00.080 postponed, therapeutic measures that were not done. My sister is a nurse. She works at a hospital in

00:21:05.840 my hometown in Bremen, which is a port city. And she kept telling me, Reiner, there's something wrong.

00:21:11.440 This entire hospital is almost empty. There's no one here. And we're still waiting for all these COVID

00:21:17.680 patients, but there's no one coming. Finally, she had two COVID patients. They died. One of them was

00:21:22.640 80-something, and the other one was 45, but she was a crack addict. So what we initially thought would

00:21:31.840 hit us like a wave because of all the announcement of Drosten and in England, what we thought would be

00:21:38.880 a real pandemic turned out to be the common flu. Or if it is something different, it's no more lethal than

00:21:46.880 the common flu. But back then, when we started our work on July 10th, we didn't know that. We just had

00:21:54.320 questions. We wanted to know, we wanted to get answers to these questions. Now, the last question

00:21:58.400 I just answered, the first question is also simply answered because that's what the WHO just came down

00:22:03.680 with by explaining that they agree with Ioannidis' assessment that this is no worse than the common

00:22:11.520 flu at an immortality rate of 0.14%. So the most important question was, what is it with these PCR tests?

00:22:20.080 Because if there's no real danger, what are these PCR tests telling us? Because the government kept

00:22:26.720 telling us, it tells you how many people are infected with whatever. So that's what we then

00:22:32.720 decided to concentrate on. We asked a bunch of scientists, Professor Kemmerer of the university,

00:22:38.000 she's an immunologist of the University of Wurzburg here in Germany. Professor Kappel, who's from the

00:22:44.160 Netherlands, another immunologist. And there's Dr. Arve from Austria, a microbiologist. Another

00:22:50.160 immunologist was Dolores Cahill. She's great, from Ireland. And each and every one told us this PCR test

00:23:00.000 is incapable of telling us anything about infections. Then I looked up, this came out a couple of weeks

00:23:07.760 ago. Then I read an article by someone who was a real heavyweight in the pharmaceutical industry,

00:23:14.480 the former vice president of Pfizer. He was, I think, for 16 years, he was vice president,

00:23:22.560 and he was also the chief scientist. And I read up what he told us about the PCR test. Before I did

00:23:30.000 that, I looked at all the videos I could find of Kerry Mullis. Kerry Mullis is the inventor of the PCR test.

00:23:36.560 He got a Nobel Prize for it. He died, unfortunately, late last year. And he, on numerous occasions,

00:23:45.520 told everybody that his PCR test is a great test, but it is not good for detecting any infections. And

00:23:53.760 an additional problem with this PCR test is that what happens is, with these swabs, you take molecules

00:24:02.720 of fragments of molecules from the body, which are totally, completely invisible to the human eye.

00:24:11.600 So in order to make them visible, you have to kind of blow them up. Amplify them is what they call this.

00:24:18.400 Put them into a machine, then they're amplified until finally they become visible.

00:24:23.680 At how many cycles, whatever becomes visible is very important, because this is the general

00:24:29.920 agreement right now across the world, including scientists who write articles in the New York Times,

00:24:37.600 which is another one of the mainstream media. They all agree that anything above 35 cycles makes no

00:24:45.600 scientific sense anymore. A leading German public health agency in Frankfurt, they're saying,

00:24:53.440 we discard, we disregard anything over 25 cycles, because we realize that it tells us a lot of things,

00:25:00.640 but nothing about infections with this virus. Now, these tests, the ones that we're talking about,

00:25:05.920 the Drosten test, was set at 45 cycles. So it was, this is what we believe now, it was deliberately set

00:25:15.280 to produce as many positive results as possible. Now, Dr. Yehden of former Pfizer, he says,

00:25:24.480 these tests are completely useless. He says, this test is fatally flawed and must, four capital letters,

00:25:33.920 immediately be withdrawn and never used again in this setting, unless shown to be fixed. And his article

00:25:39.600 ends with the following, I have explained how a hopelessly performing diagnostic test has been

00:25:45.840 and continues to be used, not for diagnosis of disease, but it seems solely to create fear. And

00:25:52.400 that's what this is all about. That's what this is all about. It's about creating fear so that people

00:25:58.240 will not ask any questions, but do as they're told. I know this because there was a paper that was leaked

00:26:04.880 by someone in the German, at the office of the German secretary of the interior. And this paper is

00:26:13.760 now called the panic paper. And it includes explicit, explicit directions for the government of how to,

00:26:23.360 how to create panic. One of the things that is stated in there is make children feel responsible for

00:26:31.120 the, and this is the direct quote, for the tortured deaths of their parents and grandparents if they

00:26:36.960 don't adhere to the social distancing rules, the mask wearing rules, all these anti-corona regulations.

00:26:46.240 So that's when I decided, when we learned this, I decided this is absolutely completely wrong. This is

00:26:53.360 not about a corona pandemic. This is a PCR test pandemic. But for what reason?

00:26:59.120 Well, this is something that I'm saying this because I can prove this in court, because all of the people

00:27:05.120 who we listen to in our corona committee will say, will definitely state the same things as expert

00:27:11.440 witnesses in the court of law. So we can prove that the virus is no more dangerous than the common flu.

00:27:19.200 And we can prove that the assertion that PCR tests can detect infections with the corona virus is

00:27:26.000 definitely completely wrong. I forgot to mention that, um, uh, Mike Yeadon, Dr. Mike Yeadon says that

00:27:34.160 at least 94% of the positive results are false positives, if not more.

00:27:39.760 Okay. And, and I've seen a lot of things. Obviously you said a lot of interesting things

00:27:44.080 to you about the panic paper. Is the panic paper a public paper or is a private paper that we cannot see?

00:27:48.240 Oh, I can send it to you. It's in German. Yeah. I'd love to see it. If you could, and if you can email

00:27:55.760 it, I'll have somebody translate it. Cause I'd love to see the, the panic paper. Uh, you know,

00:28:00.800 for me, I read all this stuff and I said, okay, I go online. I listened to you, give your talk,

00:28:06.880 the talk that went viral and everybody was, you know, it's been translated in so many different

00:28:10.640 languages, Spanish. It's all these different languages. The 45 minute speech that you gave reading

00:28:15.600 on what's going on. You started off in German, then you went in English, then it's been translated

00:28:19.280 different languages. Then I go around. I think to myself and I say, okay, I'm going to be the

00:28:24.560 skeptic here. Okay. The world cannot all be on the same page about this virus. Okay. There's no way

00:28:32.000 in the world. Everybody's on the same page. Why would they? I mean, I understand all the issues we're

00:28:36.560 facing in the world, especially last year, year before Maduro, Venezuela, 5g, Brexit, you know,

00:28:42.960 sanctions on China, sanctions on Iran, the middle East challenges that was going on the elections

00:28:49.200 in the U S we got a lot of things going on right now in the world, a lot at the same time. It's not

00:28:54.640 like it's, you know, going away. It's all happening in the same year. Okay. So could somebody politicize

00:29:00.160 this and manipulate this? Great. For the populace around the world to feel free. I have to feel free

00:29:06.220 to know that there are people who are willing to come together to question all of this and go to a

00:29:11.520 court and win. So I know these powerful people cannot bully the rest of us that don't have access

00:29:18.080 to all this information on a day-to-day basis. How come that hasn't happened yet? How come more

00:29:24.160 people haven't come together to want to do something about this yet? How come everything's still going

00:29:28.640 on on a day-to-day basis? It's now been accepted and everyone's just following whatever orders their

00:29:33.600 governors or their state officials or the president's giving. And we're not seeing a pushback

00:29:38.480 from lawyers or anyone else going up against them. Why haven't we seen that yet?

00:29:45.040 It is starting only now, because only now do people begin to understand here in Germany and

00:29:50.640 in the rest of Europe, probably in the United States as well, that this is not something that's

00:29:55.360 going to be over within a very short period of time. It's not like you can say, oh, well,

00:30:01.040 maybe another month or so, because the people who are behind this, the people who are trying to make

00:30:07.200 as much money out of this as possible and who are trying to, and that's much more important,

00:30:11.600 exert control over us, will not let up so fast. So the judiciary is the last anchor,

00:30:19.680 so to speak, of democracy. If global corporations believe that they're above the law, just like I

00:30:26.800 explained in the context of Deutsche Bank and VW, if they believe they're above the law and if they

00:30:34.400 then decide that they're going to lobby politicians in a very massive way, I'm going to explain this to

00:30:40.960 you in a second, then all of a sudden you have global corporations overreaching, doing things that

00:30:47.040 really shouldn't be in their power, because you have to remember the WHO, the World Economic Forum,

00:30:54.480 the United Nations, they're all private, supranational private organizations. The

00:31:01.760 World Economic Forum, for example, was invented by a German by the name of Klaus Schwab. He's a private

00:31:07.840 person. This is an extremely powerful organization right now because they lobbied politicians through

00:31:16.240 their annual meetings at Davos. You may have heard of this. That's where they mingle, and that's where many

00:31:22.800 politicians who may not be the toughest people in the world, but who constantly have to pretend that

00:31:29.680 they're in power and that they know what they're doing, where many politicians are really flattered by

00:31:35.920 being so close to the really powerful. So you have the self-appointed political elites, and you have the

00:31:42.480 self-appointed corporate elites who are meeting over and over again, and they're much too close. They're so

00:31:52.800 close that in the meantime, they have, in some instances, usurped the government's powers, sovereign

00:32:00.320 powers. For example, the most important right that we have all over the world is the right to free speech.

00:32:06.960 It's the fundamental right. It's the most important right for democracy because you have to be able to

00:32:12.720 discuss different opinions, which is not happening right now. And the power to regulate this should be

00:32:18.800 the government's power. But look at what's happening. My English version of my video was taken down by

00:32:25.040 YouTube. That's Google. So they believe that they have the power to censor us. That is not right. We have to

00:32:32.480 take back the powers from them and put them back to where it belongs to the government. And we have to

00:32:38.400 take a really close look at who is in government and who became too close to these corporations.

00:32:44.160 But that's basically what's been happening. And I was going to tell you the concrete

00:32:50.960 instance of how we became alerted to this. One of us happened to watch a video clip on the internet.

00:33:00.160 It was filmed in May of 2019. And this was a Congress that was held by the leading German

00:33:08.960 governmental party, CDU, which is short for Christian Democratic Union. We have a grant,

00:33:16.720 what is called a grand coalition, which is ruling our country. And the stronger one of the two parties

00:33:21.680 is the CDU. They held this Congress in May of 2019. May of 2019. Now, you would expect all of the people

00:33:31.440 who play a role in this party to be there. Angela Merkel was there, the Secretary of Health. His name is

00:33:37.200 Jens Spahn. He was there. But in addition to that, there was this now infamous professor, Dr. Christian

00:33:45.840 Drosten of Charité University, the one who pushed the idea that this is going to be a really dangerous

00:33:52.560 pandemic. And the one who convinced the world, not just Germany, but the world, because his test

00:33:58.720 was recommended by the World Health Organization to be used all over the world. He convinced the world

00:34:03.920 that with PCR tests, you can see how many people are infected with the coronavirus, with COVID.

00:34:09.360 So he was there. And at first, I thought, well, maybe he's a member of the CDU. No, there's more.

00:34:16.320 There was Professor Wheeler. He runs the German equivalent of the CDC, the RKI. Professor Wheeler,

00:34:23.040 who is a veterinarian, how did he get into that position? Then there was Tedros of the World Health

00:34:30.880 Organization, Dr. Tedros. Many people think he's a doctor. No, he's a philosopher. And there were the

00:34:36.400 there were the two leading lobbyists of the two biggest, most important, richest health care

00:34:46.480 organizations in the world, which is on the one hand, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,

00:34:51.840 and on the other hand, the Wellcome Trust. They were all there. Now, this could have been a coincidence,

00:34:56.720 but we kept looking and then we could see that these people had met over and over and over again

00:35:01.440 through the years. And these very same people who met in May of 2019, 19, they're the ones who then

00:35:08.080 called the pandemic in March of 2020, the very same people. And it was Druston whose paper, which is a

00:35:16.080 very, he wrote a paper in January, January 23rd, I think it was published. And the expert who we spoke

00:35:24.720 with say it's really sloppy. He wrote it with other authors. It's very sloppy. But it's the one,

00:35:30.560 it's the most important, it's a centerpiece of this, I was going to say campaign of this pandemic,

00:35:36.480 because it spells out that with PC, with a PCR test that he invented, specifically for this purpose,

00:35:44.000 we would be able to tell how many who is infected and how many people are infected,

00:35:49.040 a blatant lie, as we now know. At the same time, this is another thing, we found this out a week ago,

00:35:55.200 there was a Chinese paper, which was also written about this pandemic and how to best fight it.

00:36:01.920 The Chinese paper was very well done. And one of the professors who advises us on our committee said,

00:36:09.120 the Chinese don't need any advice from the Germans, they don't need any help from us,

00:36:13.280 they could have taken the Chinese paper. And now it turns out, the Drosten paper was only there to convince

00:36:20.080 the rest of the world to use the PCR tests in order to test for infections. The Chinese paper seems to

00:36:26.880 be the one that was used by the Chinese. Now, the Chinese don't have a pandemic anymore. They understood

00:36:32.160 very quickly that this is made up, maybe they took part in making this up.

00:36:36.160 Okay. So I'm a mother. My job is to make sure my kids are healthy. I take care of them. Maybe if I'm

00:36:44.800 not married to give them shelter, feed them. If I am married to do my part as a mom, if I got a job,

00:36:50.000 I'll go make money as well. But I have responsibilities as a mom. I'm a father,

00:36:53.920 I have my own responsibilities. I go do my job, whatever my job is. I make my 50 grand year,

00:36:58.880 100 grand year, 200 grand, whatever it is, I got a house, put my kids to school, all this stuff.

00:37:03.680 I don't want to think about military because that's not my job. That's a soldier's job and the

00:37:08.320 general's job to make sure if we have an attack, we have the right weapons. We are fully trained.

00:37:12.800 We are ready. That's not my job. I don't have that responsibility. It's somebody else's

00:37:18.400 responsibility. Today, the people are sitting around saying, it's not my responsibility to find

00:37:25.600 out who is responsible for this. You're saying the judiciary is the last anchor of democracy,

00:37:32.640 right? Okay. So you're in Germany. Who else is coming together, attorneys from different parts

00:37:39.040 of the world to want to go up and say, hey, all of you power people that did what you did,

00:37:43.680 you got to be held accountable to it now. What kind of power is there to hold them accountable,

00:37:51.760 specifically since you're saying they're not going to slow down and they're not going to stop.

00:37:56.160 They're going to be pushing this until they get what they want. What kind of power do you

00:37:59.440 and lawyers around the world have to push them around and hold them accountable?

00:38:05.520 Well, we have the power of asking the courts of law to step in, but we have to show in a court of law

00:38:13.280 that this is not a corona pandemic, but rather a staged PCR test pandemic, which was made up and invented

00:38:22.560 for completely different purposes for gaining for these corporations. We do not know exactly who's

00:38:30.240 responsible. We see that some of the corporations that are now censoring us are in part responsible.

00:38:36.640 We know some of the people who are investing their money like Bill Gates or this Klaus Schwab or Blackrock,

00:38:42.560 we're investing their money into pharmaceutical, in technical companies, and also in the mainstream media,

00:38:50.400 so that they're going to be brought into line and they're not going to report about the other side

00:38:54.720 of the story. And in order to bring out this story, we have to have a court of law that will take a look

00:39:04.000 at the evidence that is there, not just at this one point of view, but at all the other evidence that is

00:39:09.840 there. And that's what we're doing right now. We're doing this both in Germany and in the United States.

00:39:15.120 I'm going to tell you who it is, but not right now, because I have to get there okay first,

00:39:21.280 because I don't want to disturb the really, really, really good working relationship and

00:39:28.240 friendly relationship that we have right now. The United States and Canada are so important in this,

00:39:33.600 because they're the two countries, I think there's a third country, I think Australia, but I know my way

00:39:39.280 around in US law. So the United States and Canada are very important for this, because they're the

00:39:45.920 two countries that have class actions. Class actions mean if you have a law, if you have somebody who

00:39:52.400 goes to a court of law because they feel that they've been defrauded by Deutsche Bank or VW,

00:39:58.720 or by the makers of these PCR tests by Drusden, who told the entire world that this PCR test is good for

00:40:07.440 testing people, whether they're infectious. If someone who suffered damages because of the PCR test

00:40:18.720 induced lockdowns decides to go to court in order to ask the court, give me, please hold this guy

00:40:28.320 or this corporation accountable. And if this someone then decides to tell the judge, listen,

00:40:33.680 I'm not the only one, there's a couple of hundred more, there's a couple of thousand more, there's

00:40:37.680 hundreds of thousands of more people who suffered the same kind of damages because their businesses

00:40:42.480 were also shut down. They didn't make any money during the months of March through June.

00:40:50.800 He may then ask a judge to decide to allow this to be a class action. If the judge then allows this,

00:40:59.520 a window opens, a time window of, I don't know, six months, seven months or so. And this is going to

00:41:07.600 be published wherever other people who suffered the same kind of damage are. In this case, that could

00:41:14.080 be worldwide because the entire world suffered the same kind of damage because everybody kind of

00:41:19.120 followed suit after Drusden and the World Health Organization tried to tell the rest of the world

00:41:23.920 and successfully did so that these PCR tests tell you about infections. And because of all the infections,

00:41:30.800 we have to have lockdowns. And what's happening right now is we're preparing a couple of lawsuits

00:41:37.920 in the United States and in Canada. This has to be done very well because it's important not to make

00:41:45.600 fools of ourselves and it's important to do the best we can for our clients. We're doing the same thing

00:41:51.280 in Germany and in the rest of the world. But in Germany, we don't have class actions. And in the rest of

00:41:57.840 the world, we don't either. But what we have in Germany because of our Corona Investigative Committee

00:42:03.200 is much of the evidence. So all of our colleagues who call us or write us, I can't speak with everyone

00:42:09.520 because there's so many of them, or send us emails to the Corona Committee or to me, my law office,

00:42:17.520 we advise them that here on this website, you'll find everything you need. And we're trying to do our

00:42:26.160 best, and it's really hard because it's extremely, it's extremely hard work. We're trying to do our

00:42:32.320 best to educate as many of our colleagues in Nepal, in Ghana, and all these countries, as to what the

00:42:40.800 facts really are. So that they then, with the use of these facts, based on these facts, because the facts

00:42:47.120 are more important than the law, based on these facts, they can bring their own cases in their own country,

00:42:52.080 or in Germany, because that's where the main perpetrator is, where what I would now call the

00:42:57.360 main war criminal is. That's Drosten and Wheeler.

00:43:02.480 My question for you now would be, you know, while you're saying this, is okay. So are there any other

00:43:09.600 cases in the past where a country has been irresponsible on releasing a virus? I know you're

00:43:17.600 going a different direction, you're going through the PC, you know, the method of the doctor who

00:43:23.600 even came up with it, who died end of last year, the PCR test, and he said, it's not accurate at 100%,

00:43:28.480 you can't just rely on this. But you watch all his videos, you're going that direction. But the release

00:43:34.320 of the virus, if it started in Wuhan, and it started with China, are there any other cases to make

00:43:40.000 comparables to on how a country like China was held accountable to make sure they don't do that again?

00:43:47.440 I really am not aware of this. But I am aware of the rumors. And there is some substance to these

00:43:54.560 rumors, I think, but of China or someone else kind of releasing this virus of artificially creating this 0.60

00:44:05.040 virus. But I don't have enough. Oh, that's not my question. My question isn't that this is my

00:44:09.760 question. Let me let me clarify my question. So it makes sense. I'm not, I'm not saying,

00:44:13.600 well, you know, we know, it came out of Wuhan lab, you know, we know, we know that part,

00:44:18.800 that's not something that's not been validated, the world knows it came from China, what I'm asking you is

00:44:25.440 that, in the past, are there any other cases, where a country, a handling of a virus by a country was

00:44:34.080 so irresponsible that it affected neighboring countries, that the world tribunal held them

00:44:41.280 accountable, where all the other countries are like, listen, we cannot make a mistake like that

00:44:46.000 again, or else we're going to be held accountable. At this level, it's going to cost us this much money.

00:44:49.840 Is there any other case to go to, to say, here's what happened to XYZ country in 1948? Is there

00:44:56.240 anything like that? I don't think so. I'm not aware of any. Yeah, because I think that that's,

00:45:02.160 that's my concern. My concern is, uh, if we ever wanted to find out and, you know, uh, test out,

00:45:10.400 uh, uh, how to confuse and scare the hell out of the world within six weeks and a bio warfare 0.90

00:45:18.800 attack to shut down the entire world, we just got a perfect, uh, you know, case study on how to do the

00:45:25.520 last nine months. Well, it's, uh, Robert Kennedy and I appeared at, uh, one of the, the largest

00:45:34.320 demonstration that was ever held in Germany. That was on August the 29th in Berlin. And he, uh,

00:45:41.680 reminded people of, uh, he quoted, uh, Franklin D Roosevelt by saying, we have nothing to fear,

00:45:48.640 but fear itself. And that's what this is all about. Fear is being created by way of using these PCR 1.00

00:45:55.840 tests and fear is being created in order to make people do what they're told without asking any

00:46:01.760 questions. Yeah. For me, I just want accountability. My interest is accountability. I just want to make

00:46:06.800 sure the right people are held accountable. So, you know, in the end, you know, in the end,

00:46:10.960 it's going to be the governments who are going to be held accountable. That's great.

00:46:14.000 Yeah. And that's why we're, but we're the, we're targeting those people who are out there in the

00:46:20.320 open, who make the mistakes, who, well, they didn't make innocent mistakes, but who lied to us,

00:46:25.760 who gave us false statements of fact, because they're the ones that the governments relied on.

00:46:31.200 So if we hit them and if we can prove, and I'm sure we can, if we can show in a court of law that they

00:46:38.880 lied to the people and this particular person, Professor Druston, lied in many, many more ways to

00:46:43.760 the people because he's neither a professor nor did he ever write a dissertation. It's a fake.

00:46:48.800 That's another thing that came out last week. But if we can show that the government,

00:46:53.680 in our case, Angela Merkel relied on one person only, and that person is a fraud in many respects,

00:47:00.560 then this government loses all credibility and it'll be easier for a new government to come in and

00:47:06.720 hopefully come to a political solution. So we don't have to wait until the end of the case that we

00:47:12.000 have in a court of law. But once the whole thing gets started, and once the evidence is being,

00:47:19.440 once the witnesses are being heard in a court of law, it'll become very quickly very clear that this

00:47:26.080 is one big, I hate to use this word, but one big hoax.

00:47:29.040 So, you know, that's the word that you use that the algorithms don't like. But so,

00:47:36.480 yeah, I understand. Many people have said that as well. You're not the only person that said it, but

00:47:41.440 you seem like a stubborn man who is not going to stop until you figure out what you want to do. Because

00:47:48.080 going up against Deutsche Bank and Volkswagen was almost a training ground for you to go up against

00:47:54.400 this one, because this is bigger than those two you went up against. But you did say at the beginning,

00:47:58.560 truth will prevail. What is your plan now, the four of you? What are you guys doing as you're going

00:48:04.800 right now? And what's going to stop you guys until you get to the bottom of this?

00:48:08.160 Well, we're going to continue with our work because more and more evidence comes out. In the

00:48:14.960 meantime, at first, we concentrated on who is directly responsible. Those are the three people,

00:48:21.200 Dresden, Wheeler, and Tedros. And of course, the organizations behind them. The WHO is one of the

00:48:27.840 responsible organizations. But then it turns out that, of course, there are the ones who are out there

00:48:33.120 in the open, but there's somebody else there who's behind them and pulling the strings. We can

00:48:38.080 see them through the fog. We can see them ever clearer. But we do believe that with the help of

00:48:44.960 the Anglo-American legal system, including the law of evidence, which is much more advanced than any

00:48:51.520 other country's law of evidence, including pre-trial discovery, we believe that the facts are going to

00:48:57.920 take us right there to the people who are actually responsible, not just to the puppets, the marionettes,

00:49:04.320 but to the people who are really pulling the strings. Do you have any idea who those are or not yet?

00:49:08.800 Well, we know that some of the people who invested their money are the same ones who invested their

00:49:14.560 money in these corporations, plus the media. One of them is Bill Gates. But there's others who like

00:49:22.560 huge corporations or funds like BlackRock, for example. All those players that come to mind may have

00:49:30.960 something to do with this. However, there's no reason to be afraid. Again, there's nothing to fear

00:49:38.720 but fear itself, because there's not a kind of monolithic antagonist on the other side. But there's

00:49:44.800 different interests that are competing with each other. And there's some people on the other side

00:49:49.760 who don't seem to know what they're doing. Because as we found out last week, when we took a closer look

00:49:58.640 at Professor Drusden's dissertation, it turns out it doesn't exist. It was made up only this year when

00:50:05.200 people tried to dig deeper. If we don't lose our nerves, but concentrate, focus on what we're supposed

00:50:11.360 to do. Go after the people who we can see for what they did, lying or giving people false statements of

00:50:22.560 fact about the PCR test. That's going to lead us to where we really want to go. And it's going to

00:50:27.520 give us, I think, a quick solution once the politicians who relied on these experts come under pressure,

00:50:36.320 because their experts are really the emperors without clothes, if you take a closer look.

00:50:42.560 Yeah, I mean, it's very interesting. You know, for the people that are watching right now, what would

00:50:46.240 be your final thoughts before we wrap up this interview on, you know, the average person watching

00:50:51.920 this is not a lawyer. The average person watching this hasn't gone against Deutsche Bank. The average

00:50:55.600 person watching this doesn't wake up every morning wanting to find out more evidence. That's your job.

00:51:01.760 That's what you do on a daily basis. What should the average person who's watching this, who runs a

00:51:05.920 business, is trying to do whatever they can to keep their employees employed so they can go pay,

00:51:11.680 you know, for their rent, their daily things that they need to be doing? What are the final thoughts

00:51:16.080 you have for them before we wrap up this interview? Well, it's two things, basically. Do not give up

00:51:26.560 and keep asking questions, because the more people are asking questions, the more answers we will get,

00:51:33.600 both in a court of law, but eventually also from politicians. And as I said, I don't think it's

00:51:39.120 going to take us a year or two to go all the way through with these lawsuits. Once they start,

00:51:45.120 and once the hearings begin, once the experts are being heard in a court of law, this is going to

00:51:50.080 spread the word, and people will begin to understand that not only do they have a claim for damages,

00:51:56.960 but also do we have a means to make sure that this will never happen again? By, for example,

00:52:04.560 asking the courts of law to give us punitive damages. That's another very strong weapon in

00:52:11.840 the Anglo-American legal system that we don't have in the German system, for example.

00:52:15.840 It's going to be very interesting what happens right after election. If right after election,

00:52:22.160 states like California, New York, all of a sudden open up, you know this was politicized.

00:52:28.240 And if right after election, they still keep playing the games of what's going on here,

00:52:32.240 then maybe it's a vaccine game. I don't know. We're going to learn a lot in the next four or five days

00:52:38.320 on how everybody else reacts to the election, whether Trump gets elected, whether Biden gets elected,

00:52:44.160 or whether we have to wait a week, two, three weeks for all the other votes to come in to find

00:52:48.160 out who's going to end up being a president. But I do know the next five days are going to be very,

00:52:51.520 very weird days as we're going into this election. How can people find you, by the way? Is there a

00:52:55.440 website people can go to find you? Yeah, if you want to address me directly, I'd rather you address

00:53:02.880 the Corona Committee. But if you want to address me directly, it's fulmage.com. That's my website.

00:53:09.120 We're going to put that link below. And how do they address the Corona Committee directly? How

00:53:14.560 do they do that? What's the website there? We're trying to have an English version of it,

00:53:19.840 but right now there's only the German version. You do get English answers, though. The German

00:53:24.560 version is Corona-Ausschuss. That's the German word for committee that's spelled A-U-S-S-C-H-U-S-S dot D-E.

00:53:36.720 We're going to put both of those links below for people to go follow. And if they got any questions,

00:53:42.480 they will reach out to you. Doctor, thank you so much for making the time for being a guest on

00:53:46.000 Valuetainment. Thank you very much for having me. It was a pleasure. So what do you think about the

00:53:50.880 story? What do you think about his testimony? Do you believe him? Are you on his side? Do you

00:53:54.720 disagree? Do you think what the media is saying is true? Do you think what all these powerful political

00:53:59.120 people are saying is true? Or do you think there's something going on behind closed doors? I don't

00:54:02.400 know. Comment below your thoughts. And you may want to share this video because I don't quite frankly

00:54:06.160 know whether it will stay up or not. I have no reason to believe it won't or it will. But you

00:54:11.360 may want to share with others so they get a chance to see it for themselves as well. And if you watch

00:54:14.960 this interview, you'll like it. There's another one I want you to watch with Robert Kennedy Jr. I did,

00:54:18.800 which we went really deep. And click over here to watch that interview. If you're not subscribed to

00:54:22.960 the channel, please do so as well. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye.

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